How to out dps your teammates with Tractor Cannon

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  • @conro6918
    @conro6918 Год назад +1272

    I am shocked that nobody blew themselves up with all that moving during dmg.

    • @CarriesOnTop
      @CarriesOnTop Год назад

      have a brain

    • @CarriesOnTop
      @CarriesOnTop Год назад +7

      im sorry this was rude just dont be useless

    • @basedlordprime
      @basedlordprime Год назад +313

      ​@@CarriesOnTopstop moving around during damage like an impulsive beast. Not hard.

    • @Thotacus
      @Thotacus Год назад +212

      ⁠@@zekerdeath Not true at all. If the entire fireteam starts moving around or pushing others people are bound to eventually miss or even blow themselves up. Its a major retard issue to think otherwise or to be that fireteam.

    • @matthewconrad6922
      @matthewconrad6922 Год назад

      @@zekerdeath ong these mfer just suck,i usually sit at the back of the well and still dont die to that bs

  • @badhaircutboy8971
    @badhaircutboy8971 Год назад +712

    The well placment was perfect in the damage test congrats to that guy whoever he is...

    • @gottabeinspiring
      @gottabeinspiring Год назад +3

      There is a perfect well placement? how hardcore can Destiny players be

    • @mattmakowicki9242
      @mattmakowicki9242 Год назад +25

      ​@Louys pretty sure that's the guy who placed the well judging by the "..." at the end and OP liking the comment

  • @Tagers
    @Tagers Год назад +29

    Get this Nezarec interaction:
    "Hey why dont you swap off Tractor we got someone running div"
    "But Tractor is a 30 perc debuff..."
    "Yeah, but most of your damage is from gathering storm"
    "But tractor is a 30 perc debuff..."
    "But gathering storm"
    One damage phase and wipe later they are begging me to put Tractor back on

  • @cosmicreamjam
    @cosmicreamjam Год назад +416

    this is actually due to the jolt applied by gathering storm. the damage numbers get sent to your stats at the end card

    • @kingcurmudgeon8685
      @kingcurmudgeon8685 Год назад +24

      yup and its getting nerfed

    • @di11onm1nkgaming
      @di11onm1nkgaming Год назад +15

      No it doesn’t, volt numbers can go to anyone. Just as you are firing the fusion the chances are volt is most likely to go to you

    • @Erelyn1
      @Erelyn1 Год назад +113

      @@di11onm1nkgaming incorrect, jolt damage at the boss damage report goes to the person who applied the jolt, regardless of who triggers the jolt damage after it is applied

    • @LlamaD2
      @LlamaD2  Год назад +111

      Yes fortunately I was the only person running arc on this run, but even if you strip the jolt away the setup still carries.

    • @AtE1600
      @AtE1600 Год назад

      @@di11onm1nkgaming it got changed

  • @raphmula
    @raphmula Год назад +192

    IF YOU NEVER GOT THE CARTESIAN ROLL: you can still get a riptide with the same exact roll:)

    • @nem6191
      @nem6191 Год назад +7

      Do note that a Riptide will be doing slightly less damage since it's a stasis weapon

    • @gamblesull6284
      @gamblesull6284 Год назад +1

      what?

    • @CrimsonChaord
      @CrimsonChaord Год назад +70

      @@nem6191 that is only if you're comparing it to a kinetic weapon. cartesian is solar so they deal the same

    • @nem6191
      @nem6191 Год назад +8

      @CrimsonChaord Ah yes my mistake.

    • @Pugnut21
      @Pugnut21 Год назад +11

      ​@@nem6191Stasis and Strand weapons are considered energy weapons, they just reside in the kinetic slot for the sake of overcrowding.

  • @goose8084
    @goose8084 Год назад +15

    So helpful man. Was playing the new dungeon and got a few million more damage on the boss than my other teammates

  • @Ysl489
    @Ysl489 Год назад +64

    Holy shit, u are strafing like crazy in that dps phase in front of your teammates, who are using rockets, they probably can’t do their optimal rotation

    • @LieutenantButtonMasher
      @LieutenantButtonMasher Год назад +18

      Bro’s hunter has ADHD

    • @dyakonov
      @dyakonov Год назад +2

      he literally stands behind everyone else the whole phase lmao

    • @Ysl489
      @Ysl489 Год назад +13

      @@dyakonov he doesn’t

    • @cwj2733
      @cwj2733 Год назад +12

      @@dyakonov do u have eyes in your skull at all perhaps

    • @owl_uwu1297
      @owl_uwu1297 Год назад +1

      His positioning wasn't awful, Probably better if he stood on the ground instead of the plate though, if he's gonna be moving that is.

  • @MrKingsMedia
    @MrKingsMedia Год назад +60

    I ran tractor on my well lock last night for my guild run and did just as much damage as those on rockets. I can’t wait to try it with Cartesian cause I was using Riptide.

    • @Leafays
      @Leafays Год назад +6

      if you are doing master then a zealot’s reward would work well or the one from the kiosk that he mentioned earlier in the video becuase of this weeks void surge. If not I think you should be fine using riptide w chill clip since shatter damage goes brrr

    • @RodWaffle
      @RodWaffle Год назад +3

      ​@@Leafaysyou spelt vorpal wrong btw

    • @Leafays
      @Leafays Год назад +4

      @@RodWaffle ??? i never said vorpal

    • @RodWaffle
      @RodWaffle Год назад +4

      @@Leafays oh mb I thought when you said "chill clip" younmeant vorpal

    • @sortasour2964
      @sortasour2964 Год назад

      @@RodWaffle the fuck

  • @rinblack5877
    @rinblack5877 Год назад +33

    Riptide can also roll Vorpal and Lead from Gold if you don’t have any of the mentioned fusions.

    • @jackalexande
      @jackalexande Год назад +3

      auto loading holster is better imo >:)

    • @floppydisksareop
      @floppydisksareop Год назад +1

      @@jackalexande Not for this setup it ain't.

    • @bofa722
      @bofa722 Год назад +2

      ​@@floppydisksareopit definitely is. If you're running arcstrider you don't need primaries and you can use another special incase you run out of ammo on the first one, or to reduce downtime during a DPS phase

    • @floppydisksareop
      @floppydisksareop Год назад

      @@bofa722 Auto-loading isn't even the best reload perk the gun has. It is not an amazing one for any situation, and it most definitely isn't here

    • @bofa722
      @bofa722 Год назад

      @@floppydisksareop lmfao you better not be talking about compulsive loader

  • @Cobalt20
    @Cobalt20 Год назад +210

    Considering we’ll have Thunderous Retort on the Artifact Mod next season, this will only get better buffing Gathering Storm substantially.
    Edit: bummer to see my comment is totally disproved based on the jolt nerfs. 😬

    • @LlamaD2
      @LlamaD2  Год назад +19

      Very true, this is big news. Especially if you can apply a Strand debuff to the target beforehand as well (Conductive Cosmic Needle).

    • @tisoyschroeder8955
      @tisoyschroeder8955 Год назад +18

      This may have been fixed a long time ago, but I could’ve sworn the previous time we had thunderous retort it wouldn’t buff Gathering Storm in the way you think. Way back it had an issue where it would only give the buffed damage to the impact of the spear throw only and not apply any bonus to the remaining DoT effects; again could’ve been fixed since then.

    • @marceletta
      @marceletta Год назад +5

      ​@@tisoyschroeder8955 that would be correct.

    • @Cobalt20
      @Cobalt20 Год назад +1

      @@tisoyschroeder8955 I didn’t remember that. Feels bad.

    • @GMurph2336
      @GMurph2336 Год назад

      @@tisoyschroeder8955 even so, still buffed. SES only buffs the impact as well.

  • @dAcnphip
    @dAcnphip Год назад +13

    Started using this build a couple days ago and it is absolutely brilliant

    • @gavelfrost
      @gavelfrost 7 месяцев назад

      Works on Crota? My clan acts like kids when someone doesn't use swords, but i wanna dps differently

  • @denevik
    @denevik Год назад +1

    Thats insane! Good investigation mate! Keep it going!

  • @mutantraze3681
    @mutantraze3681 Год назад +10

    tractor is why Div was only the play for small crit bosses. doing actual damage compared to the 1mil div puts up is significantly better despite lfgs taking the lazy way out every time

    • @AtE1600
      @AtE1600 Год назад +6

      Tractor was really never better until the div nerf. With the amount of flinch in most boss encounters, that bubble is practically necessary to ensure crits for both damage & perk activation. Linears getting nerfed also played a huge roll as they were easily the best possible DPS option for 90% of encounters, but now rockets have taken over which don’t require precision at all. There’s a reason the #1 raid team in the world literally said div should be nerfed because it’s practically mandatory in raids.

    • @mutantraze3681
      @mutantraze3681 Год назад +2

      @@AtE1600it was mandatory for day ones. Not raids in general. It ls extremely versatile and way too good for a constant 30% debuff. The Div crit bubble is only “needed” for a very few bosses. Garden 3rd encounter and wizards (only if you use linears). Rockets were also already better for burst damage before the linear nerf. Warpreist 1 phase was done using rockets and tractor. Not a div
      Edit: linear flinch got fixed much earlier than that and was only a real issue on wizards

  • @maxniemi4584
    @maxniemi4584 Год назад +24

    you could also use riptide with auto loading and vorpal paired with [insert energy weapon]

  • @h13n12
    @h13n12 Год назад +6

    next season with thunderous retort that increases damage, i recommend switching to a blade barrage super since thunderous retort damage buff only works for the duration of activating the super and doesn't really work for most hunter supers but BB should work fine in this build as a replacement super.

    • @ace_of_spades4038
      @ace_of_spades4038 Год назад +4

      It only works for arc supers

    • @ace_of_spades4038
      @ace_of_spades4038 Год назад +1

      But it still does more damage than bb

    • @cwj2733
      @cwj2733 Год назад

      gathering storm for long dmg phases and BB for short ones

    • @h13n12
      @h13n12 Год назад

      @@ace_of_spades4038 i missed the arc super only part so that's my bad but they are indirectly nerfing gathering storm so it won't deal as much damage as BB. even currently, if you can it all the blades BB deals roughly the same amount of damage as GS.

    • @ace_of_spades4038
      @ace_of_spades4038 Год назад

      @@h13n12 ah ight I didn't know they were nerfing jolt

  • @warlockholmes
    @warlockholmes Год назад +1

    Synthoceps titans:
    Our battle shall be legendary!

  • @tudeabides
    @tudeabides 6 месяцев назад

    Haha I love how many people are giving you a hard time for the strafing. Deservedly so, but you are taking it well :)
    I’m a little sad that they are nerfing combination blow, but hopefully will still be okay with gambler’s dodge

  • @SkullNinjaTheDisciple
    @SkullNinjaTheDisciple Год назад +2

    This is the perfect build for me thanks!!

  • @zukasu_
    @zukasu_ Год назад +43

    Worth pointing out that whoever applies jolt (gathering storm hunter in this case) gets the credit for damage done by jolt procs. Still, it's way better to be doing this than only using tractor like some do.
    EDIT: This has been fixed at the start of season of the deep. However jolt has been nerfed and you are better off applying jolt with a weapon (or not at all) and using blade barrage instead.

    • @btr1011
      @btr1011 Год назад +13

      Its like tractor is a swap weapon and not a solo weapon like div

    • @CarriesOnTop
      @CarriesOnTop Год назад +1

      dont speak when u dont know

    • @rifie1495
      @rifie1495 Год назад +9

      wow, u telling me the pertson applying a DOT gets a the DOT dmg?? crazy.. mind blown

    • @bofa722
      @bofa722 Год назад +5

      U getting cooked in these replies ☠

    • @exactly14ever
      @exactly14ever Год назад +20

      @@rifie1495 you don't understand how jolt works, if someone applies jolt to an enemy and then a teammate deals damage to said enemy and procs the jolt the damage is given to who applied the jolt not who triggered the damage, in other words using gathering storm you are essentially pumping your numbers up by taking other peoples damage, this is also more relevant if you are not dealing as much weapon damage like in this case.

  • @weskingtime6087
    @weskingtime6087 Год назад +1

    My Cartesian finally seeing the light of day after being discarded when particle deconstruction died:

  • @k0st4s07
    @k0st4s07 Год назад +3

    would riptide with vorpal also work since it's a rapid fire frame as well?

  • @attilavidacs24
    @attilavidacs24 Год назад +7

    Great video, straight to the point. Are you able to link the DIM loadout too in the description? Thanks!

  • @kobeyturralde8163
    @kobeyturralde8163 Год назад +2

    Would riptide with vorpal or chill clip also be a good option

  • @TheArrivalCyberse
    @TheArrivalCyberse Год назад +3

    Step 1: plant your thicc booty infront of all your rocket wielding teammates so they can't fire.

  • @mattmitchell6466
    @mattmitchell6466 Год назад +2

    Instead of CC and the neomuna fusion, can you use techeun force with the new fusion rifle perk

  • @LLCONZ
    @LLCONZ Год назад +2

    What about the techeun force from the new last wish roles ? I feel like that thing isn’t talked about enough

  • @crimson_summ1t590
    @crimson_summ1t590 Год назад +2

    If you'd like a good kinetic fusion riptide is good option as its a rapid fire with lead from gold vorpal as well and then always you to use something like ikelos smg or maybe even a trace rifle if your feeling it

  • @Rushgarroth
    @Rushgarroth Год назад +2

    Only that good if no other jolt effect gets aplied before yours right? And sometimes others dmg feed into your jolt

  • @Delirious7667
    @Delirious7667 Год назад +2

    the last wish fusion has a new perk that gives bonus damage for landing all pellets in a burst. i wonder if it's better dps than cartesian now

  • @tenderquirkydragon8643
    @tenderquirkydragon8643 Год назад +2

    This is taking the "carry loadout" to the next level

  • @IasIow
    @IasIow Год назад +4

    "step 1: choose your hunter"
    Welp, we tried boys.

  • @TheRealNiko
    @TheRealNiko Год назад +17

    Step 1: have teammates that can't hit decent dmg

  • @nunyebizniz
    @nunyebizniz Год назад

    Nice nice 👍🏻
    You get a new sub!

  • @shadow_wadow9625
    @shadow_wadow9625 Год назад +3

    wouldn't auto loading vorpal riptide work just as well if not better? can run something like a slug to stall for auto loading to kick in

    • @meekumanu
      @meekumanu Год назад +1

      yes, this can be optimized, one of his slots isn't even being used.

  • @samuelsalvatore4511
    @samuelsalvatore4511 Год назад +40

    "step one: choose your hunter!"
    *me with two warlocks:*

    • @marceletta
      @marceletta Год назад +3

      use verity's brow

    • @xThorn342
      @xThorn342 Год назад +13

      wait why tf do you have 2 warlocks

    • @KindDmoN
      @KindDmoN Год назад +6

      ​@@xThorn342 swap all your armor to your alt for an easy week to week raid\dungeon farm. Been a thing since the start of d2 but with the recent changes to raids being farmable its kind of become a little obsolete

    • @CjaeTheSparrow
      @CjaeTheSparrow Год назад

      Glad I'm not the only one who does this

    • @bluntastic
      @bluntastic Год назад +2

      I have 3 locks

  • @yaboikiba4302
    @yaboikiba4302 Год назад

    Is there any reason to use Cartesian Coordinates with Vorpal over something like Loaded Question or Techeun Force with Controlled Burst or any other fusion with Frenzy?
    For Controlled Burst, you not only get a 20% damage boost instead of the 15% from Vorpal, but you also gain decreased charge time. Mind you, this is only after hitting every single bolt from a burst, which even tho is really easy in most situations, it gives you a chance to fuck up and miss one bolt in three consecutive bursts
    And while Frenzy grants you the same damage boost as Vorpal, it also increases your handling and reload speed, which is not a big deal but it's nice to have

  • @AcrossTheSea12
    @AcrossTheSea12 Год назад +4

    I think maybe Techeun Force is now the top DPS fusion for those of you willing to lose your sanity to Kalli farming

    • @luxter858
      @luxter858 Год назад +1

      Yes it is. Took me like 18 hours total to get all weapons craftable :/
      Worth it. Evrry single wrapon is insane

  • @cookies23z
    @cookies23z 6 месяцев назад

    Simple but effective way to keep up team damage and self damage
    For div I am a fan of my "lasting impressions + auto loading" arc rocket, that + div + triple surge boots = pretty solid damage even as a wellock who has no dmg super, just fire a rocket before dps with the right timing, and you can try to squeeze one in when you reload the div as long as your team knows the div bubble will be down, a good time for *them* to reload too

  • @Vicvic3386
    @Vicvic3386 Год назад +2

    I would recommend riptide with auto loading chill clip and to have some other weapon for damage in between usually 2 shots from a Cartesian is good enough for me meaning you never stop firing brining your damage to easy 4 mill

  • @ForgieDusker
    @ForgieDusker Год назад

    makes me glad i never deleted my god roll Cartesian back from the Particle Deconstruction days

  • @DannyNguyen56
    @DannyNguyen56 Год назад +6

    Thanks for making this video! I've always wondered how to bring up my DPS. Can you make one for each class for future content? I really appreciate you for this video!

    • @laxly7695
      @laxly7695 Год назад +1

      You could probably switch this build to any character with a burst super pretty easily. Arc titan could similarly toss it's super then TC/fusion. For Locks I think Strand Warlock (if you have it) would use this same set up well. You could also try Nova as I think it's the highest BURST option they have behind Strand.
      The weapons also want to be up close to things so keep that in mind when choosing to run this over something like a rocket.

  • @realfake6669
    @realfake6669 Год назад +1

    Wait
    You also played a sniper, did you did the gaze?
    If so, you'll probably have to subtract a few hundred thousand or something

  • @ncnnjnicksb2
    @ncnnjnicksb2 Год назад +2

    Might be a tad off because you were taking gaze (I could tell by the sniper), but ggs only

  • @bobdolespen
    @bobdolespen Год назад

    I have this roll of cartesian and it has been an absolute workhorse from the return of vault to nezzy and beyond

  • @PrismaticGeyserr
    @PrismaticGeyserr Год назад +2

    I am assuming the new Techeun Force is now the best in slot with Reconstruction/Rewind and Controlled Burst

    • @afumi4486
      @afumi4486 Год назад

      double slugs does more dps than fusions.

    • @PrismaticGeyserr
      @PrismaticGeyserr Год назад

      @@afumi4486 not so sure anymore

    • @afumi4486
      @afumi4486 Год назад

      @@PrismaticGeyserr Have you actually tested anything or are you just saying "not so sure anymore"
      I still consistently hit higher on nez every kill using double slugs over fusions. Even on testing on a single boss, still more with slugs than a fusion.

    • @16ipm
      @16ipm Год назад

      @@afumi4486yeah probably, but it still need to be a precision hit to get max damage, whereas fusions yoj dont need to shoot “precisely”.

    • @afumi4486
      @afumi4486 Год назад

      @@16ipm genuinely if you cannot hit the massive crit spot every single boss has with a weapon that you need to be close to hit with anyway that is a skill issue. Being bad at the game is not a game mechanic.

  • @xX_KRATOS_Xx
    @xX_KRATOS_Xx Год назад

    Nice build..but are there any other exotics I/others could possibly use if they don't have Star-Eater Scales? Because I personally don't have them- and I do really wanna try this build-

  • @NordicDragon1337
    @NordicDragon1337 Год назад

    I assume any primary(or kinetic/stasis/strand) is fine? You have the kings fall sniper, but never mentioned anything about it? If so I will pull out khovstov then

  • @almin4
    @almin4 Год назад

    Im guessing techeun force works too? With rewind rounds and controlled burst

  • @h1ddenmist259
    @h1ddenmist259 Год назад +2

    void fusion would be best since u get an increase to void from tractor

  • @ColLennox177
    @ColLennox177 Год назад +5

    Looks like you’re taking gaze with that sniper? which will artificially inflate your damage quite a bit…

    • @naturally4743
      @naturally4743 Год назад +5

      and its second dmg so kinda sus he doesn't show full encounter. People who don't see this are going to wonder what they are doing wrong

  • @kobold_sushi_executive_chef
    @kobold_sushi_executive_chef Год назад +1

    Nezarec, Final God of Painted on the Floor

  • @windonhighnoon
    @windonhighnoon Год назад

    What's better, Null composure or hollow words with vorpal

  • @rileydport
    @rileydport Год назад

    A little late to this video, but would replacing a surge mod with a holster mod matching the fusion rifle sacrifice too much DPS? Just curious.

  • @SaturnsHub
    @SaturnsHub 7 месяцев назад

    Will this also be effective with something like Royal Executioner or Techeun Force?

  • @Valorant_Simplified
    @Valorant_Simplified Год назад

    Yo, I thought this was gonna be a video about hotswapping from star-eater to liar's handshake and melee spamming with one-two punch and tractor cannon after sending your super out. Is just shooting with a fusion rifle better?

  • @chapystick_
    @chapystick_ Год назад +2

    Alternative option: Just use grand overature and a chill clip fusion for when you run out of ammo. Achieve the same damage

    • @floockde
      @floockde Год назад +2

      I didn't know you can use Grand Overture and Tractor together. Damn.

    • @chapystick_
      @chapystick_ Год назад +2

      @@floockde sorry to confuse, you must have missed the “JUST use” indicating “DO NOT use” tractor cannon 😊

    • @KormitTheFrag
      @KormitTheFrag Год назад

      completely ignoring the part where tractor buffs teammate damage by 30%

    • @chapystick_
      @chapystick_ Год назад

      @@KormitTheFrag because you’re still better off with everyone using grand overature and a div

    • @grubatar554
      @grubatar554 Год назад

      @@chapystick_ tractor cannon applies a better debuff than div

  • @jeremiah5511
    @jeremiah5511 Год назад

    Would the new techeun force with rewind rounds and focused burst be good too?

  • @Imperium87
    @Imperium87 Год назад +1

    I have a Riptide with either chill clip or vorpal to select. Might damage test see which works best

    • @wtfox8206
      @wtfox8206 Год назад +1

      When you do find out please post it here

  • @NamesMajin
    @NamesMajin Год назад

    Great video! Quick question. Which fusion rifle would work best for this? I have the same exact Cartesian but i dont have the Loop one. Should I go grind for it? Or just stick to Cartesian?

    • @matthew13658
      @matthew13658 Год назад +1

      Cartesion is all-round a better option since jolt doesn't stack

    • @NamesMajin
      @NamesMajin Год назад

      @@matthew13658 Alright so with Voltshot out the way.. Cartesian or the other void one he talked about?

    • @craniumdiode1263
      @craniumdiode1263 Год назад +2

      Iterative Loop's setup requires that you kill somethin' with it and hold it for the Voltshot. While not hard, some people would not think twice over killing some random fodder near the boss, which then makes that entire perk slot wasted. The Cartesian requires no prior set up, simply shoot the boss and profit, but he likely mentioned Iterative Loop and Null Composure because Cartesian is not in *any* loot pool; you'd have to wait for Xur to hand it out with the roll you want.

    • @NamesMajin
      @NamesMajin Год назад

      @@craniumdiode1263 Ahh okay okay, thank you! Sorry but I do have one more question. If I can manage to kill an enemy and keep Voltshot active, would that be doing more damage than Cartesian? Or does Cartesian still dominate?

    • @spartacus6256
      @spartacus6256 Год назад +2

      riptide is a good alternative to cartesian as it is also the same archetype and it can also roll with vorpal, or chill clip if no one else has it as the shatter damage gets you more damage then vorpal.

  • @morimemento5841
    @morimemento5841 Год назад

    I have question
    Cam i replace the null composure with shotgun that has one two punch/fusion with vorpal?

  • @crunci6849
    @crunci6849 Год назад +10

    For some bosses you can do as following:
    - choose warlock
    - equip sunbracers + tractor
    - mele someone
    - apply tractor
    - sunbracers go brrrrr
    - repeat steps 3-5
    Works best against big and stationary bosses like riven or golgeroth

    • @amaan9194
      @amaan9194 Год назад +1

      Well yeah, but you don't really have many options for this. Not all bosses spawn adds you can kill, and like you said, it really only works on bosses that stay stationary.

    • @Joshy...
      @Joshy... Год назад +1

      Don't use this on golgoroth lol, no one will be able to see the boss with all the solar nades xD

  • @ER-qr9dj
    @ER-qr9dj Год назад +3

    This is more of a teammate dps issue + jolt crutch than it is you "outperforming"

  • @GMurph2336
    @GMurph2336 Год назад +1

    Does it need to a rapid fire and is this consistent? Like you’d be putting out more dmg than teammates using Thunderlord with a div or rocket swaps?
    Before I get attacked, I know TLord isn’t top tier dps but people like to run it constantly.

    • @btr1011
      @btr1011 Год назад

      Its considered one of his main metas tf you mean as for your first question rapids are best but if you want its more just stars with a fusion swap

    • @GMurph2336
      @GMurph2336 Год назад

      @@btr1011 because I wasn’t only talking about Nez and Thunderlord is only used because it’s easy and it has a bug with div

    • @snail3409
      @snail3409 Год назад +2

      Rapid fire is best for fusions, slug shotguns do exist however. The guns aren’t anywhere near proper rocket swaps, the kicker here is the gathering storm which has a lot of asterisks around its viability

  • @Camyar335
    @Camyar335 Год назад

    Why not just use Null Composure? It’s void so it benefits from the void surges same as TC. I can’t really compare because o don’t have a Cartesian Coordinate

  • @Valskyr
    @Valskyr Год назад

    very nice but what is the hunter outfit shader

  • @SouperGoop
    @SouperGoop Год назад

    Looking through my fusions, I think the best I’ve got is a vorpal riptide, but ofc it’s a stasis special. Is it worth using over a slideways high impact coordinate? Sliding around in a well with rockets is a dangerous game

    • @oldsaddad7274
      @oldsaddad7274 Год назад +2

      Vorpal riptide should do the same damage as Cartesian, they're both rapid fire frames. Make sure you use stasis surge mods

  • @angelnavarro9573
    @angelnavarro9573 Год назад

    I did 3m with sunbraces and divinity against Atheon. Not sure if the same strategy might work everywbere

  • @andrewcampbell9277
    @andrewcampbell9277 Год назад

    My damage ticks on Carti C were doing almost exactly half last night on Master Nezarec, is that just a difficulty scaling thing? I was well past 1820 on him, and I had triple Solar surge going the entire time.

  • @risensensei
    @risensensei Год назад

    looks like my cartesian which has been collecting dust for the past year is finally gonna have its use

  • @kingcurmudgeon8685
    @kingcurmudgeon8685 Год назад +4

    before they nerfed weapon swap a great play was Tractor shot, swap to anarchy 2 shots, swap to cartesian w vorpal, rinse and repeat. And gathering storm or thundercrash

  • @kurpitsa6025
    @kurpitsa6025 Год назад

    actually really like this build. gonna have to grind for star eaters but thats alright. How does it perform in heavy ad clear situation such as the encounters in Ghost of the Deep?

    • @goochbasshero
      @goochbasshero Год назад

      combination blow + dodge spam is great add clear as you'll be jolting every punch

    • @kurpitsa6025
      @kurpitsa6025 Год назад +2

      @goochbasshero I actually gave it a shot last night and you're right. It's insane on ad clear

  • @brandonspeed
    @brandonspeed Год назад

    Would a chillclip riptide be good for this 🤔

  • @schlaganfalltyp5799
    @schlaganfalltyp5799 10 месяцев назад

    Does this also work on other classes or why espacially hunter?

  • @echo193
    @echo193 Год назад

    I need to know, could I use techeun force with controlled burst?

  • @calstri
    @calstri Год назад +6

    My highest damage on Nezarec was 5 mil on arc hunter with auto loading + explosive light hothead and izanagis. It was beautiful.

    • @jiovanirivera852
      @jiovanirivera852 Год назад +2

      What was your damage rotation?

    • @calstri
      @calstri Год назад +4

      @@jiovanirivera852 Throw Arcstaff -> Rocket -> Izanagis -> reload izanagis -> rocket -> repeat and throw a grenade. I can't remember how many DPS phases we had or if it was a 1 phase. I had surge mods on and full charge of Star Eater Scales.
      Edit: also use reload dodge to reload rocket

    • @jiovanirivera852
      @jiovanirivera852 Год назад +2

      @@calstri thanks

    • @calstri
      @calstri Год назад

      @@jiovanirivera852 np

  • @kohlmathis7791
    @kohlmathis7791 Год назад

    WHAT IS THAT SHADER ON CARTESIAN! I’ve seen a few RUclipsrs with it and I can’t figure it out

    • @RoseBulldog
      @RoseBulldog Год назад

      The Shader I believe is Crucible Horizon from S20. As to how to get it as of S21, I have no clue. It might be in the Crucible after match rewards rotation now but you'd probably have to look that up. Hope this helps

  • @swift2992
    @swift2992 Год назад

    is techeun force a good alternitive?

  • @masterambush8644
    @masterambush8644 Год назад

    Any tips for Tractor Cannon Raid DPS on Warlock?

  • @varikstheloyal4561
    @varikstheloyal4561 Год назад +2

    If you have decent orbs this old combo can spit put 2-3 supers per average boss dps

  • @gloomygloomstalker3878
    @gloomygloomstalker3878 Год назад

    what about using the new fusion rifle Royal Executioner with envious assassin and reservoir burst? thatd hit the solar surge and have huge damage bonus if you set it up before dps phase wouldn't it?

    • @Leap623
      @Leap623 Год назад

      The frame honestly makes a bigger difference than most damage perks, to be honest, rapid fire fusions are just so far ahead of other fusions, there's a reason he only recommended them. A Rapid-Fire out-dps's an Adaptive by about ~23% before applying any perks, so even if you had 100% uptime on reservoir burst Royal Executioner would lose to a Rapid-Fire with any damage perk.

    • @gloomygloomstalker3878
      @gloomygloomstalker3878 Год назад

      @@Leap623 useful to know, still gonna try putting it to the test because 7 shots of 25% extra damage is insane but I can see where rpm really does help out

    • @wesleyrollins6262
      @wesleyrollins6262 Год назад

      Like the other guy said, rapid fires are the go to for dps. Since Cartesian is either impossible to get rn or incredibly difficult at the very least, I'd go for the riptide fusion rifle with either vorpal or chill clip.

    • @gloomygloomstalker3878
      @gloomygloomstalker3878 Год назад +1

      @@wesleyrollins6262 oh i have a Cartesian thats good, lead from vorpal

  • @danf4321
    @danf4321 Год назад +2

    Is it still possible to get Cartesian coordinate?

    • @IIlicit
      @IIlicit Год назад +3

      only from banshee or xur

  • @bratanbanana4843
    @bratanbanana4843 Год назад

    what about deliverance with bait and switch?

  • @sprydog3253
    @sprydog3253 Год назад

    Wow, did not know I could do this much with arc strider, and tractor. Thanks for doing the lords work 🫡

    • @ForQueenAndCountry
      @ForQueenAndCountry Год назад

      Better options are dragon shadow pellet swap, heartshadow aggressive swap

  • @shajandarbani7991
    @shajandarbani7991 Год назад

    But you have to kill ads with voltshot first right?

  • @armen2503
    @armen2503 Год назад

    Will a riptide with chill clip work as well? I've got null composure, cartesian coordinate and iterative loop but i'm wondering which one's the best to use.

    • @smakadragon
      @smakadragon Год назад +3

      Vorpal is what gives Cartesian the bonus that Chill Clip can't quite catch up to

    • @marceletta
      @marceletta Год назад +2

      chill clip would mainly be for the stasis debuff (5% when target is frozen, 6.5% when another 30% debuff is applied) aside from that I wouldn't recommend it unless it's all you've got.

    • @armen2503
      @armen2503 Год назад

      @@smakadragon noted, i'll stick to cartesian then

    • @darthferaligatr2968
      @darthferaligatr2968 Год назад +1

      It can, but only if no one on your team is using a chill clip bump in the night or silence and squal since the shatter damage won't be stacking.

    • @spartacus6256
      @spartacus6256 Год назад

      it can work as the shatter damage from chill clip will more than make up for no vorpal. Just make sure no one else has ways the freeze as multiple sources don't stack.

  • @smoxch5444
    @smoxch5444 Год назад +1

    I see you’re one of those individuals that has ants in their pants during DPS. It’s a miracle no one blew themselves up with their rocket.

  • @mmmJamSandwich
    @mmmJamSandwich Год назад

    how is this doing on season of the deep tho, i know jolt got nerfed so, is this still as good?

  • @dreg1031
    @dreg1031 Год назад

    I have Cartesian with him impact would that work?

  • @donutgames29
    @donutgames29 Год назад +1

    "Bruh shut up you're garbage"
    My brother in the light, I am doing: mechanics, ad clear, and using tractor. And I *still* out dps'd you

  • @SAINTPONTIUS
    @SAINTPONTIUS Год назад

    What other perks should I use on iterative loop Voltshot, lead from gold and what?

    • @danf4321
      @danf4321 Год назад

      Lead from gold is the best choice for the third perk slot

  • @puish
    @puish Год назад

    What shader are you running 😮

  • @Hyper.1.7
    @Hyper.1.7 Год назад

    Is a vorpal Riptide also good?

  • @slick2089
    @slick2089 Год назад

    What's the defiance roll?

  • @treyrandall2983
    @treyrandall2983 Год назад

    I was just cleaning my vault and found the same combo tractor + my old coordinate w/vorpal, but I put that on my Warlock...
    Going to switch it now.

  • @xin5521
    @xin5521 Год назад +1

    Could a lead from gold vorpal riptide work?

    • @alexschittenden
      @alexschittenden Год назад

      I would think so. It’s faster firing so it should be close.

    • @xThorn342
      @xThorn342 Год назад +1

      yeah it would. its rapid fire and vorpal so yessir

    • @izanagisburden9465
      @izanagisburden9465 Год назад +1

      ​@@alexschittenden it's literally the same... both are rapid fire frame

    • @alexschittenden
      @alexschittenden Год назад

      @@izanagisburden9465 literally thanks for explaining. I was going off the cuff brain, not named after an exotic weapon, so sorry 😞

  • @zeoxia7525
    @zeoxia7525 Год назад +7

    I’m not doubting the build but bit odd you clipped a two phase and only showed the second phase because in the 3 mil damage that would include two gathering storms

    • @rena-xi
      @rena-xi Год назад +3

      yeah as a whole run he did more damage than everyone else, doesnt matter that he only showed 1 of the 2 phases

    • @jasonjean5333
      @jasonjean5333 Год назад

      Because it's common sense/extremely obvious he or anyone else running this build would use however many supers they got.
      In what world are you living on where a player only uses one super against a boss LMAO.

    • @zeoxia7525
      @zeoxia7525 Год назад +3

      @@jasonjean5333 yes but to show how good the damage would be in a proper setting should be done in a one phase because I could tell my team not to do as much damage for two phases whilst I to as much as possible and obviously I would have more dps that's my point, like I said I've got nothing against the build but in a one phase it won't do 3 mil consistently

    • @cwj2733
      @cwj2733 Год назад

      @@zeoxia7525 the only reason the numbers are inflated is because he’s getting ALL of the jolt procs in his dps. no one else gets jolt

    • @zeoxia7525
      @zeoxia7525 Год назад +1

      @@cwj2733 I know that but it's also the fact it's over two phases is what make it inaccurate

  • @kingsizesenpai8208
    @kingsizesenpai8208 Год назад +12

    Riptide with vorpal could also be an option

    • @kylebuschmann
      @kylebuschmann Год назад +1

      Yeah, riptide with field prep vorpal or field prep chill clip

    • @Davey-lm1qq
      @Davey-lm1qq Год назад

      ​@@kylebuschmann in solo i prefer chill but if you have more than one person with it, you're losing damage due to not being able to shatter that often.

  • @covidsurvivor2039
    @covidsurvivor2039 Год назад

    Can I pair this with The Eremite with controlled burst instead

    • @LlamaD2
      @LlamaD2  Год назад +1

      Yes

    • @covidsurvivor2039
      @covidsurvivor2039 Год назад

      @@LlamaD2thx

    • @covidsurvivor2039
      @covidsurvivor2039 Год назад

      @@LlamaD2just tried it in spire of the watcher and it said I generated 75 orbs of power on the first encounter

  • @cartho1103
    @cartho1103 Год назад

    How is gathering storm compared to thunder crash?

  • @DukeYeet
    @DukeYeet Год назад +2

    If your out DPS-ing your teammates with this maybe get your teammates on different builds... or different teammates...