What's more impressive is anya is self taught.unlike others she was not born half Japanese and learned it from her family.she was just a regular otaku with a jp friend that loved reading together
My friend was a Big Black Man (I said Black because he's not African, he's Indonesian, born in Papua) who is fluent in Mandarin and Cantonese. And I look like your Super Stereotypical Asian guy, short, slanted eyes, glasses but I can't speak Mandarin cuz I'm Indonesian. One time we were hanging out in a convenient store and a group of Chinese tourists came and apparently they are lost and really afraid to ask around and just talking within their group, my friend pick up on their conversation and he just butt in and said something to get their attention (I don't know what he said), all of them turned towards us, looked at me and said some Chinese gibberish which I don't understand to me. My friend then just talk and helped them. Their face though when they find out that I am not the one who can speak Mandarin. They seemed both conflicted and disappointed at me 😅
That's what my teacher said to me when teaching Japanese in the class. When Japanese say "Nihongo Jouzu ne~" To you, that's mean theyamaze you can speak Japanese, but just that. After that, they will use formal one to you as you just a "Gaijin". But when you speak very fluently, usually they will say "Wait, how many years you stay at Japan?" or "Are you half?". That's mean, even they suprise how they fuk your are fluent in Japanese. Moreover, if you're to fluent both Japanese and Kanji, they will say "Why are you more fluent than me????". Basically, the more fluent you are, the more suprise Japanese at you.
Anya actually well known even outside hololive for her high japanese skill. some japanese admitted that she even better than average japanese and considered her as sensei. that what I heard from JP community.
the sensei part highly come from Sora the troll(Japan RUclipsr who speak english) tier list. he's making a tier list for foreigner who can talk japanese language. the stream not long ago/pretty recently . for stories circulating on the JP community...since long ago,they complimenting how "native" Anya intonation is, really knowledgeable with japanese slangs, knows japanese meme.
@@FreyjaWion wait, he did? Anya still pretty unknown to the audience. I'm still waiting for her come into the stage to sing. she got signature voice colour. it's good that she gain more exposure since her time in Rust.
@@ranapriliaful when making tier list,one of his audience submitted Anya clips for review,and only in few minutes he put Anya on"sensei"level japanese. if Anya manage to get the perfect type of song for her voice on her original songs... like her covers(I love her phony the most), she'll definitely will give an impactful blows to the audience,like Gen 1 who stole the spotlight on holofest back then
She is Confident interacting with JP Members, she's just not confident interacting with EN Members. Because her Japanese is far better than her English.
the confident that I mean here is more to confident stepping out her comfort zone. from her stream last year when she call the "overseas"Holo member she never talk to. after the stream she really try putting an effort on it. collab with Roboco Choco, collab with the council girls, collab with Ina and Watame, collab one on one with Lamy and Sora. but after that the cycle keep repeating with the same girls over and over(this also means she's becoming more comfortable interacting with them which is good in it's own way). in this Rust episode,we see her interact with more girls,outside the circle she's used to. like Pekora, Subaru, Miko, Ame, Matsuri, and more interaction with Koyori,Fubuki and Polka
Saying a few Japanese words like self introductions fluently is one thing… but being able to follow and engage in a conversation with native Japanese speaker fluently is just next level.
Indeed. Learning a few phrases isn't that hard, but actual conversation is another step, it means really understanding the language, not just the words. And that goes for every language.
The thing about Anya fluency is not just grammar, vocabulary and pronunciation. It also the accent. I remember warching a video in which Japanese guy comment that Anya manner of speech is pretty much the same as a Japanese person.
It is crazy to see everyone so naturally conversing with Anya. You can tell they simply don’t consider a language barrier when talking to her at all. Multi lingual Anya so powerful lol
I remember early on when Irys debut, a few of JP weren't sure if they should default to speaking to her in English or Japanese even though she is Japanese herself lol. I'm not sure why it's different with Anya and her seamless integration
The thing about Anya is she speaks Japanese like a local, but she also speaks Indonesia like a born and raised local. It's almost futile to determine whether she's Japanese or not.
What's more impressive is anya is self taught.unlike others she was not born half Japanese and learned it from her family.she was just a regular otaku with a jp friend that loved reading together
@@twistandice7895 It's indonesian. Bahasa literally means "language" in indonesian, idk it just sounds weird when ppl say bahasa to refer to indonesian, it's like bahasa what?
Anya and Irys have similar speech style when streaming, randomly switching between various languages while talking. Except Anya sounded more natural than Irys who has been living there for some time now.
Anya switched between 3 languages naturally, it's almost confusing, but somehow it's not. Because most of the time when she did something, she'll explain it in 3 different languages so that everyone is in the same page.
@@chargemankent I think the interresting thing about anya's code switching is that she didn't repeat a sentence in 3 languages. Instead she continues her talk/sentence in different language but the context from last sentence in different language is not lost. So it feels more natural.
Anya's gotten crazy comfortable with Japanese. I remember briefly hearing her speak Japanese in her debut days, but this is the first time I've seen her respond consecutively. Is this a hidden secret?? Or has she been practicing like crazy??
wth. Her japanese has improved beyond further than the last time I heard her. She was already fluent but its obvious she did a lot of work to make it sound naturally.
Teori bahwa Anya sebenarnya mau gabung audisi holo jp cuma telat kasih formulir pendaftaran, lalu lihat holo id buka gen baru. Yaudah daftar di holo id sekalian belajar bahasa Indonesia, wkwk
kyknya yg bukan org jepang/tinggal di luar jepang gk bisa daftar audisi hololive jp deh, setau gue yg bukan orang Jepang di hololive jp itu cuman coco tapi dia sebelum nya tinggal di jepang.
Sora the Troll did a stream a few days ago in which he made a tier list of various RUclipsr's and VTuber's Japanese. He freaked out when he heard Anya because she sounded so much like a native speaker.
@@BambangEko hopefully RUclips doesn't delete this, but I found a clip for you: ruclips.net/video/VDlAy6ttpAU/видео.html He reacts to a few other members as well, in case you want to check those out
This reminds me of Asobi anime where blonde hair blue eyes white girl act like she's foreigner but she's actually born & raised in Japan and people expect her to be fluent at English but she has no idea except Japanese
@Average Clipper enjoyer the OP is joking, Anya is pure blooded Indonesia(I think). Who have a JP Friend since childhood also the commitment to learn Japanese bc she's annoyed that her Manga is not getting Translated or slow to Translate
JP talents when English comes up: I don't know English. Also JP talents when Anya states she doesn't know English in English and her attempts at trying to backtrack.: Various forms of calling her on her bs, while stating that in Japanese. It's pretty clear HoloJP knows more English than they let on XD.
Most of JP know extremely basic English words. Also keep in mind a lot of Japanese just uses English in its lexicon anyway, it's easy to forget that the word "anime" is technically a word of English origin, for example. Also, Subaru is in this group, who has some of the best understanding of English in JP. I think most of them really only know a very small amount of English. The ones who know a notable amount more than the rest are Subaru, A-chan, and Lui
well, being able to understand english and speaking english are 2 completely different things. + anya did speak with very basic english words so ig thats why the jp members were able to understand her.
When Japanese say to you "nihongo jozu", they are mocking you When Japanese say to you "omae pera-pera janaika yo!", that's the best form of acknowledgement from them
When they don't say "nihongo jouzu" but instead say "I thought you're Japanese". That's when you know you are actually fluent in Japanese.
Welcome to another episode of "i can't believe she's not japanese"
What's more impressive is anya is self taught.unlike others she was not born half Japanese and learned it from her family.she was just a regular otaku with a jp friend that loved reading together
My friend was a Big Black Man (I said Black because he's not African, he's Indonesian, born in Papua) who is fluent in Mandarin and Cantonese. And I look like your Super Stereotypical Asian guy, short, slanted eyes, glasses but I can't speak Mandarin cuz I'm Indonesian.
One time we were hanging out in a convenient store and a group of Chinese tourists came and apparently they are lost and really afraid to ask around and just talking within their group, my friend pick up on their conversation and he just butt in and said something to get their attention (I don't know what he said), all of them turned towards us, looked at me and said some Chinese gibberish which I don't understand to me. My friend then just talk and helped them.
Their face though when they find out that I am not the one who can speak Mandarin. They seemed both conflicted and disappointed at me 😅
Nihongo jouzu = 🖐️
Nihongo pera pera = 👍
That's what my teacher said to me when teaching Japanese in the class. When Japanese say "Nihongo Jouzu ne~" To you, that's mean theyamaze you can speak Japanese, but just that. After that, they will use formal one to you as you just a "Gaijin". But when you speak very fluently, usually they will say "Wait, how many years you stay at Japan?" or "Are you half?". That's mean, even they suprise how they fuk your are fluent in Japanese. Moreover, if you're to fluent both Japanese and Kanji, they will say "Why are you more fluent than me????".
Basically, the more fluent you are, the more suprise Japanese at you.
Anya is getting more Recognizable in JP Community, Proud of her tho 😌👌
Anya actually well known even outside hololive for her high japanese skill.
some japanese admitted that she even better than average japanese and considered her as sensei.
that what I heard from JP community.
the sensei part highly come from Sora the troll(Japan RUclipsr who speak english) tier list. he's making a tier list for foreigner who can talk japanese language. the stream not long ago/pretty recently .
for stories circulating on the JP community...since long ago,they complimenting how "native" Anya intonation is, really knowledgeable with japanese slangs, knows japanese meme.
@@FreyjaWion wait, he did?
Anya still pretty unknown to the audience.
I'm still waiting for her come into the stage to sing. she got signature voice colour.
it's good that she gain more exposure since her time in Rust.
@@ranapriliaful
when making tier list,one of his audience submitted Anya clips for review,and only in few minutes he put Anya on"sensei"level japanese.
if Anya manage to get the perfect type of song for her voice on her original songs... like her covers(I love her phony the most), she'll definitely will give an impactful blows to the audience,like Gen 1 who stole the spotlight on holofest back then
Anya is a secret JP member.
FIGHT ME
Anya: I can't speak Japanese
A certain Elite shrine maiden: and I took that personally
As expected from Anya, the member of HoloID Japanese branch
....wut!?
eyoo~ im dead laughing 🤣
Bruhh
More like HoloJP Indonesian branch
Ayo man, you killin me here
I love seeing Anya becoming more confident, when interacting with other Holo members(outside of ID)
She is Confident interacting with JP Members, she's just not confident interacting with EN Members. Because her Japanese is far better than her English.
the confident that I mean here is more to confident stepping out her comfort zone. from her stream last year when she call the "overseas"Holo member she never talk to.
after the stream she really try putting an effort on it. collab with Roboco Choco, collab with the council girls, collab with Ina and Watame, collab one on one with Lamy and Sora. but after that the cycle keep repeating with the same girls over and over(this also means she's becoming more comfortable interacting with them which is good in it's own way).
in this Rust episode,we see her interact with more girls,outside the circle she's used to. like Pekora, Subaru, Miko, Ame, Matsuri, and more interaction with Koyori,Fubuki and Polka
Imagine getting on her nerves and she roasts you in 3 different languages, no wonder her role is a weapon
She does this to her viewer on daily basis tho. 🤣
@@noustrant verbally and physically roasted by a weapon, den people are the real deal huh
Den people and melfriends : "first time?"
Saying a few Japanese words like self introductions fluently is one thing… but being able to follow and engage in a conversation with native Japanese speaker fluently is just next level.
Indeed. Learning a few phrases isn't that hard, but actual conversation is another step, it means really understanding the language, not just the words.
And that goes for every language.
Especially in a group setting where everyone is talking all at once
The thing about Anya fluency is not just grammar, vocabulary and pronunciation. It also the accent. I remember warching a video in which Japanese guy comment that Anya manner of speech is pretty much the same as a Japanese person.
It's Sora The Troll, for anyone wondering.
Yep. Definitely Sora. Put Irys and Anya at god-tier as well as Mikochi 🤣
@@DefinitelyPotato nah, iirc she put anya at Japanese teacher, A tier. Irys and also axel is at s tier, god tier.
Afaik S tier reserved only for japanese/hāfu/live in japan, so since she didn't fulfill the condition he put anya on A tier.
@@ridwana4037 i love sora the troll
"I am Rust newbie. I can't speak Japanese."
*Anya just lied as easily as she would draw a breath.*
At this point i wouldn't be surprised if a new JP member has the same voice as anya lmao
She likes sleeping too much for that xd
From being a Keris, she now turns into a Tanto.
Tanto with curves same as a flamberge greatsword.
It is crazy to see everyone so naturally conversing with Anya. You can tell they simply don’t consider a language barrier when talking to her at all. Multi lingual Anya so powerful lol
I remember early on when Irys debut, a few of JP weren't sure if they should default to speaking to her in English or Japanese even though she is Japanese herself lol.
I'm not sure why it's different with Anya and her seamless integration
@@rdxzero wait irys is japanese?
@@Xuch She's Japanese American, from Hawaii
@@rdxzero oh thats cool, makes me think what the others are
The thing about Anya is she speaks Japanese like a local, but she also speaks Indonesia like a born and raised local. It's almost futile to determine whether she's Japanese or not.
Jp fans have commented that anya's japanese is the same as how japanese otakus talk
Futile for you. She's pure Indonesian. She literally said many times she learnt Japanese from a Japanese friend.
hafu, kana?
@@reihanboo could be
And she sounds like a native when she speak in english
Not only is Anya fluent, she also understands Japanese humor very well, as proof here and some of her other interactions with HoloJP members
What's more impressive is anya is self taught.unlike others she was not born half Japanese and learned it from her family.she was just a regular otaku with a jp friend that loved reading together
Anya with her identity getting farther from id
I do like her, but it seems her persona is just not that compatible with most Indonesian entertainment formula.
Say it with me, Anya is JP.
true, pertama kali ngira dia dari EN, ternyata dari ID
When i first found out about her i thought she's a jp member that i somehow missed out even after some time in the rabbit hole
i dont see any id personality in her lol
Anya Melfissa. A Japanese who can talk Bahasa Indonesia. She is even create false ID card, born in Indonesia not Japan. What a determination!
i guess not, her bahasa is very local too
r/whoosh?
@@litfill54 why not?
An ID ID
@@twistandice7895 It's indonesian. Bahasa literally means "language" in indonesian, idk it just sounds weird when ppl say bahasa to refer to indonesian, it's like bahasa what?
Anya and Irys have similar speech style when streaming, randomly switching between various languages while talking. Except Anya sounded more natural than Irys who has been living there for some time now.
Irys is still better. She has japanese blood afterall.
Anya switched between 3 languages naturally, it's almost confusing, but somehow it's not. Because most of the time when she did something, she'll explain it in 3 different languages so that everyone is in the same page.
@@chargemankent I think the interresting thing about anya's code switching is that she didn't repeat a sentence in 3 languages. Instead she continues her talk/sentence in different language but the context from last sentence in different language is not lost. So it feels more natural.
Anya is more fluent in English than IRyS.
@@HaesslichG IRyS is an American native.
I love seeing others' reactions to Anya's Japanese, she gets a very good recognition from other JP members.
Anya's gotten crazy comfortable with Japanese. I remember briefly hearing her speak Japanese in her debut days, but this is the first time I've seen her respond consecutively. Is this a hidden secret?? Or has she been practicing like crazy??
Neither. You just don't watch her much. She's always this good in Japanese
@@SoraRaida ^
@@SoraRaida will need to check her out more I guess
When Anya played Raft with Botan her Japanese was so good Botan was questioning whether she was really Japanese.
wth. Her japanese has improved beyond further than the last time I heard her. She was already fluent but its obvious she did a lot of work to make it sound naturally.
Teori bahwa Anya sebenarnya mau gabung audisi holo jp cuma telat kasih formulir pendaftaran, lalu lihat holo id buka gen baru. Yaudah daftar di holo id sekalian belajar bahasa Indonesia, wkwk
KONSPIRASI be like kwkwkw
Anjay, org jepang masuk Holo id, biar ada tantangannya
Teori konstipasi
kyknya yg bukan org jepang/tinggal di luar jepang gk bisa daftar audisi hololive jp deh, setau gue yg bukan orang Jepang di hololive jp itu cuman coco tapi dia sebelum nya tinggal di jepang.
Itu mah kasusnya Hana Macchia
Sasuga mystic dagger.. ('-' too powerful
I just realize there's one second of silence for HoloJP processing Anya words of "I can't speak Japanese". XD XD XD
Anya : "I cant speak japanese"
Also Anya : *collabs with 6 japanese Vtuber by herself*
Sora the Troll did a stream a few days ago in which he made a tier list of various RUclipsr's and VTuber's Japanese. He freaked out when he heard Anya because she sounded so much like a native speaker.
link video ?
@@BambangEko hopefully RUclips doesn't delete this, but I found a clip for you: ruclips.net/video/VDlAy6ttpAU/видео.html
He reacts to a few other members as well, in case you want to check those out
Anya casually gaslighting after introducing herself in Japanese.
Miko is staring anya... MENACINGLY
This has the same feel of knowing your Kris was made in JP
inb4 she's not actually a Kris but a "Wakizashi" (Samurai Short Sword)
This reminds me of Asobi anime where blonde hair blue eyes white girl act like she's foreigner but she's actually born & raised in Japan and people expect her to be fluent at English but she has no idea except Japanese
Anya melfissa, honorary jp member
Better than Mikochi's
The only girls that did worst than Elite are oversea members...
Any jp is understandable than elite wym 🥴
Well miko from holoEn is still learning japanese though...
She dodged that “nihongo jouzu” comment and just got promoted as a Japanese person.
Anya in her natural habitat LOL
She pulled a no hablas espanol hahaha
when a native says your japanese is "pera-pera", not "jouzu" anymore
Anya got the i thought u are japanese while irys got the your japanese is too high😂😂😂
Anya must be foreseeing hellish things to come lol
HOLOLIVE Nihongo Jouzu
1. Anya
2.
3.
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100. Miko
101. Hachama
Not nihongo jouzu, but Nihongo Pera Pera
love it
I need to see Anya and Miko Collab to confirm the rumors
WATASHI MO NIHONGO WAKARIMASEN
- Ollie
anya getting stronger, her confident,
Anya is no sword
She is a knife
so cute 🥰
The Anya in my imagination is a god at japanese.
At the end i thought she is real japanese
im more surprised that she could speak bahasa rather than nihongo
She is actually JP person who happen can speak ID and join Hololive ID
:)
Lol
@Average Clipper enjoyer the OP is joking, Anya is pure blooded Indonesia(I think). Who have a JP Friend since childhood also the commitment to learn Japanese bc she's annoyed that her Manga is not getting Translated or slow to Translate
@@tigerblank7446 I get her. I totally get her.
@@tigerblank7446 whoa, I respect that determination 👍
@Average Clipper enjoyer no, she has never even visited japan before (she will when her 3d finished)
Holoid gen2 is strong on language Ollie, Anya, and Reine they are can speak Japanese and english
Aku suka teori yang menyatakan bahwa Anya adalah anak dari pak bos Yagoo
Masuk hololive jalur orang dalem wkwkwk
almost 2 years, anya keep using jokes " i can't speak japaneseee " but omoshiroii :D
Anya skin Huma
There is one impostor among -us- rust
Anya may be an imposter among ID.🤔kinda sus.
cute anya with holojp.
なんなら滑舌もいいから大半の日本人より日本語がきれい
Anya isnt even ID anymore, she doesnt eat indo-mie. She got exiled and became a citizen of Ramenland instead.
Anya doesn't have "i dont speak japanese" privilege
JP talents when English comes up: I don't know English.
Also JP talents when Anya states she doesn't know English in English and her attempts at trying to backtrack.: Various forms of calling her on her bs, while stating that in Japanese.
It's pretty clear HoloJP knows more English than they let on XD.
Most of JP know extremely basic English words. Also keep in mind a lot of Japanese just uses English in its lexicon anyway, it's easy to forget that the word "anime" is technically a word of English origin, for example. Also, Subaru is in this group, who has some of the best understanding of English in JP. I think most of them really only know a very small amount of English. The ones who know a notable amount more than the rest are Subaru, A-chan, and Lui
well, being able to understand english and speaking english are 2 completely different things. + anya did speak with very basic english words so ig thats why the jp members were able to understand her.
kalo anya ikut ujian sertifikat N5 mungkin bakal lulus sekali coba
N2 aja udah pasti lewat apalagi N5
Dia setara N1
Wait what is Polka rlly not there I’m assuming red is meant to be Robocco but i keep on only hearing Polka’s voice
Polka was there, just not in their team, this was towards the beginning when everyone was doing their greetings. Polka was there to size them up. 🎪
@@Ohmu Ah I see
I think anya have a good asset but she never show that.
cute
Sussy Anya
maybe Anya's parents are Japanese and live on Indonesia, and Anya born on indonesia, so thats way she can speak Japanese
She is not. lol
I'm always impressed with the HoloID...
Si amel
Her and IRyS wouldn't be out of place at all in HoloJP. Heck, they're better than Coco was when she started.
She needs to be reminded tht she's not the JP member
Not yet
When Japanese say to you "nihongo jozu", they are mocking you
When Japanese say to you "omae pera-pera janaika yo!", that's the best form of acknowledgement from them
Im half japanese I thought she was a japanese
Sasuga holo jp gen (extra)
Anya is n0 in jlpt
Anyaisfrom japannot indoneshia
Anyaisfrom japannot indoneshia