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Polytopia - How To Finally BEAT Cymanti
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Cymanti is one of the most menacing tribes in Polytopia. I constantly hear players complaining that they're too strong and desperately need to be nerfed. There are many aspects that make Cymanti strong, but they also have some major drawbacks. In this video, we'll be discussing why Cymanti is so strong, what Cymanti's weaknesses are, and how you can exploit these weaknesses to defeat them. Then we'll jump into a replay to demonstrate it all in action. I hope you enjoy!
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Video Name: Polytopia - How To Finally BEAT Cymanti
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Cymanti has received around 10 nerfs post-release. Says a lot about how strong it initially was.
Still is
Initially def was OP, now still powerful but def not OP. The hexapod price increase fixed a ton and IMO was the biggest fix
Cymanti is pretty weak if you know how to play against them. They need a boost. I was playing Cymanti till 1400 ELO after that it is almost impossible to win unless you get a lucky starting position, needed to switch to Bardur to reach 1500 ELO.
@@smartFunable thats more indicative of bardurs strength than Cymantis weakness. If anything being second only to Bardur makes them objectively not weak lmao
@@smartFunable What's the biggest elo have you ever saw?
Simple: eradicate your skill issues
Technically your right. The best kind of right.
How bout I just leak your IP address?
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Yo what’s this man’s discord server
It’s link from three years ago is invalid
Please do a similar one with Polaris. What do you do when close combat is controlled by tons of Gaami supported by ice archers , and hordes of knights traverce half the map to eliminate any ranged clusters , coming from the unexplored territory beyond the sea they fricking froze?
Ye
if you want an easy way to beat polaris just play aquarion, that matchup is probably the hardest of hard counters in the game
if you let Polaris to the late game no one can beat
tip,if is polaris try to be mora agressive
@@jobechan2306 can you elaborate on that?
From A LOT of experience I find that polaris is absolutely unstoppable in the mid game. So If you see them super early either go 100% aggressive and try kill them asap, otherwise your only shot of beating them is in the super lategame when you have 100+ stars per turn and can battleship spam them.
I also would really like a how to counter polaris video as I think they are the single most OP tribe in the game by a significant degree. I also think they are better on drylands than other map types so I may be missing something as everyone else thinks otherwise. It's just without battleships I don't know how you beat them. Plus they can still use trade on drylands and normal tribes can't, and without battleships they can spawn bigger units than any other tribe. To me it seems like on drylands they freeze spam you midgame and outscale you lategame so unless you kill them really early your screwed.
Also aquarion gets you a little extra time to try kill them but once polaris can start spaming ice fortresses, aquarion is just as screwed as everyone else.
ayo you got sponsored nice
Cymanty did forget to expand, lot's of cities up north they didn't get.
I guess it comes back to the fact that they can't easily attack and explore at once, although a better player would definitely have more stuff. Either way they would probably struggle midgame
Yea, big mistake to not just take one unit to explore uncontested areas.
Archery is a really helpful tech to counter cymanti, the defense bonus on a warrior will protect them from beeing one shot by a boosted hexapod and will help you to preserve territory, and the archers themselves are very helpful to destroy body parts from the centipedes.
No need for archers, riders are countering cymanti with ease + also boosts economy through roads, archers will slow you down.
Great video as always! Your tips will really help me as I tend to panic once I realise I'm playing against Cymanti 🙈
And congratulations on being sponsored, you really deserve it for putting such good content out there! 🥳
Yoooooo thank you so much for the kind words, really appreciate it
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Yadakk is pretty good against cymanti, they can out expand them.
After watching more: Yadakk not only can out expand cymanti, but their eco is pretty good for not starting with a city upgrading tech. They also have one of the hardest to get, but really good tech to counter cymanti, called roads. All they need is some stars to get riders and if they do it right, have all the cities to get stars, and get tons of riders. I typically do well against cymanti as yadakk.
Also-- congrats on the sponsor!
Mans got himself sponsored, that’s how you know you’ve made it
So happy that you finally got a sponsor! well-deserved for the epic content you put out :D
Its amazing to watch our boy GullYY grow and getting sponsors. Keep it up GullYY!
Hey Gullyy, I've been watching your videos since I started this game, you've been very helpful for me to progress, also would love a video series of "how to play each tribe"
I dont think thats really necessary most of these tribes are pretty similiar
Congrats on the sponsor man! Love your channel
just if someone cares: 6:18 there's a lethal on the board :)
move warrior from Biosis NE, attack the warrior on mountain (your warrior dies, enemy goes to 8)
then you buy climbing
move hex to kill the warrior on hill and siege bard's C1 = gg
0:00 I’m actually here because your community tab
What an amazing sponsor read! Really creative, and not just like those copypaste information about the sponsor's product from one channel to another :)
I love your content I have been playing this game for years now and am looking to get as good as I can
On worlds with a lot of water, Cymanti is also on the weaker side. If they cannot bridge the gap with algae, then battleships will tip the scales in your favor pretty quickly.
But not with the update
you will blow up as long as you keep giving us content ♥️ don’t stop the grind, as well as inspiring me to start fighting game content creation.
Commenting because gully deserves interactions:) this game should be so much bigger than it is
I think it would be cool to see more mirror matches for the non-standard races since they play so differently, because honestly I don't know how mirror match Cymanti really plays out.
As a cym main, I can tell you. I've seen a lot of mirror matches. Most of the time, it boils down to a race of centipedes and doomux. I.e, you're trying to knock out your opponent's centipedes with your own so that you get segments, or you speedrun doomux before your opponent can get them. But even then, getting doomux first is not an auto win. You still have to he efficient with them cause they're expensive and will leave you vulnerable if you rely on them too much. So really, all in all, it comes down to backing your opponent into such a corner that even doomux can't save them. At least from my personal experience
imagine Riders, if every tile was neutral and had a road on it. That's how it works out. i.e. a shitload of vision manoeuvring, distance management, and shamans dictating the dominance
@@kubakopcil9992 Pretty much, yeah! Early game is about spamming riders and trying to outnumber + outmanuever your opponent. Mid to late game tho is about getting as many centipedes up and overwhelming the enemy forces. Cause you know they're gonna be going for centipedes, so you gotta get yours going before they do. Also aiming for each other's shaman, that's a part of it. If you can knock out the enemy shaman in the early game, 9/10 it's game over. I say 9/10 cause I've managed to win a few mirror matches sans shaman. Or at least sans shaman until the late game when I get it back.
As a Cymanti player, now i can think like a Bardur player and absolutely dunk some Bardurs. Thanks for helping out the Cymantis!
Nice to see a small tuber get a sponsor :)
Gully that was genuinely the best ad read i"ve ever seen
Gully - love the videos as always. Do you ever get cymanti spawning Kitons (defenders) that are pretty tough and lead to many poisoned victims that inevitably die and become spores, ultimately enriching cymanti?
Thats was a cool ass ad you tied along with polytopia
That top about highlighting units retreating into the fog is a game changer
In early game it can also really help to get defense bonus and just have warriors wait on a mountain or city. Then using the time to get road tech.
let's goooo you got a sponsorship!
GG for the sponsor my boy
Congratulations on the sponsor!
Congrats for your sponsor
Nice to see our lad get sponsored
W video bro my friend always plays as cymanti it'll be some fun to switch it up on her
My man finally got a sponsor lets goo!
Nawww bruh, I just chose Cymanti in a Ploychamp tournament, and you released this video 😭
Bro has 30k subs and got sponsored that gotta be the racord great video btw
Our bro now has sponsors, lets gooo
That was a good ad lol, nice. Also opinions on the new tribe skins (beta only)
Hello, thank you for the video and the great advices. What do you think about city wall ? Is-it a good option to hold a city ?
Against cymanti usually no since they have poison on some most of their units and poison is turning defensive bonuses off
If you know that city will get clapped hard then go for a wall
congrats on the sponsor gully
Aye isnt this your first sponsor, common Gully W
There are also some more ways which i used to defeat it using badur when i had 2 bases left and the whole map was conquered by cymanti😅
-use mind benders to tackle the super units
-ridulously weak against water so save the bases with ports as much as possible as algae could pose a problem...
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I was able to finally beat cymanti because of this video. Also I’m so glad you sponsors and can make money off RUclips now.
after this video i realised that I play cymanti completely differently. I tend to have a slow/weak early game but mass doomux late game and its pretty much unstoppable
I sometimes get both strong early and strong late I still think this tribe is busted
@@GigaLobster ik it’s crazy. I feel like he’s underestimating the power of mass doomux
@@draconic6352 yeah doomux is op it has mobility health damage and suicide option which is AoE and does poison everyone around the explosion like wtf thats so busted
Question.
Doesn't Elyrion hard counter Cymanti?
You got cheap strong Polytaurs in the early game and for late game you got Dragons that can easily burn down hordes of hexapods
hexas destroy polytaurs and it takes only 3 unboosted hexas to kill a grown dragon
@@premieresteak2189 neat.
So basically, Cymanti should be nerfed, and Elyrion Dragons should have more health
Cymanti does not need to be nerfed
@@donutlovingwerewolf8837 IDK about nerfing cym but it would be nice if they buffed dragons to 30hp
@@GullYYGamer I generally don’t like it when a game nerfs anything, it causes the people who were passionate about the thing nerfed to become apathetic. The much better answer is to boost others and to create easier counters instead.
As a new Cymanti player, *I now know my own weaknesses.*
Congratulations of sponsorship!
Could you make a video rating how cool the tribes are (based on how they look)
Bad example game that was a bad cymanty player compared to what I'm facing most of the time or my cymanty games. The early game pressure is usually coupled with a much stronger economy in the middle game due to city expansion (those northern cities for example) and while fungi is an overrated tech nobody considers cymanty's op terrain they usually have lots of forests and animals similar to bardur but even better than that they have an insane amount of gold comparable to Xin-Xi which gives a significant late game boost, also you didn't even mention doomux or rayacci in the video (IDK if I spelled those right) bc if a cymanty player can get a formidable late game economy going which is easily possible with the cymanty terrain its not hard to get a good doomux spam with hexapod cleanup and in some cases a backrow of the cymanty catapults which cost the same as bardur but do aoe damage, weaken enemies, and on death give more economy in the form of fungi.
Yes please do a Video about countering Polaris.
What's the opinion of focusing Cymanti on poison? With my play vs AI I feel like this a great mid to late game strat. Too slow vs Hexapod spam?
I’m in the middle of a live match rn lol. I take my turns quick so I have 20 minutes built up, had to check this out. We’ll see if it helps.
Truly a man of the people
0:57 i pray for those unfortunate enough to catch even a glimpse of my history
Absolute gamer
I wonder, do the bugs on the people's faces control them or do the people have complete control over their bodies?
You should play random multiplayer but you can only move cardinally
As a Cymanti player I appreciate this video
This was a fantastic video. Happy to see you got sponsored. You should make a video explaining counterplay for all the super units.
Polytopia is way more complicated than I thought
I remember playing Polytopia on my iPad as a child
I would say Cymanti can get pretty scary let game with a good economy since Doomux are quite powerful but midgame there isn't really any strong unit besides Centipedes which don't have that many hp for a super unit
Cymanti late game actually sucks, they lack Knight's persist skill which can chain multiple kills and in the late game there are just too many units and Cymanti gets overwhelmed. The only chance to win as Cymanti pass 1400 elo is to get lucky with starting position :)
Yay thank you
Being early feels weird
How do you watch replays of your battles?
ANy tips on late game cymanti, Doomux and centipede spam yk
do you prefer playing on mobile or on pc?
Thanks a lot from a french player...!
Hell yea get that bag gully
can someone explain why the cymanti opponent exploded the centipedes body growth before moving it two turns in a row? does that increase its movement or something?
Centipedes have two tiles of movement, but if they have a segement their movement is reduced to one tile
I have yet to see a Cymanti player that actually balances exploring, gaining tech, and building units correctly besides you playing as them on this channel. Would you possibly be able to show a game where the Cymanti player knows more of what they are doing along with their opponent?
Where i can find your Discord server invite?
Thx i already got extermenated by cymanty multiple times
Rip bardur strat with 3 cost roads and lumber huts
I think the luxidoor might have collected a penny or two since last update
Yo without those stars from the early ruins that would have a different game there at the end
I feel like saying they're not so good late game is kinda harsh, last game I lost despite having better eco because of their doomuxes, which are just very hard to kill no matter what units you use - I had swordsmen, catapults and knights. Possibly the 250 elo difference had something to do with it too
whenever I'm fighting Cymanti and they spam hexapods I just use knights,
one time I was Yaddak and I got a single knight and ended up killing 4 hexapods and an undefended shaman.
Kickoo in a archipiélago map is op against saimanti
I, perssonaly, am a cymanti main and, yeah hes right. also thanks for making me a better cymanti player by avoiding these weaknesses.
a sponsor, nice
❤your video's are cool beans❤
what if they go straight into mass exida spam
can you upload how to counter polaris in late game please 🥺
tbh i've never EVER used hexapods. my strategy for cymanti is basically the same as for all tribes, grind the economy to the point where you can amass an army of centipedes and doomuxes. however, i do feel that cymanti is kinda screwed with naval warfare, having only 1 naval unit, which is extremely weak compared to everything else cymanti has. idk how to even counter this kind of strategy except to wait them out or swoop in early-game
Also against hexapods, defenders work well. It takes around 3 hexapods to kill a defender and the defender will kill 2 of those
Do that and Centipedes get a good meal.
1. It only takes 2 unboosted hexapods to kill a defender, one of those live
2. Strategy isn't really a great tech to get against Cymanti because you don't really get anything that's useful against them and doesnt lead to a useful tech
3. Defence bonuses are removed by Cymanti's poison, making them even worse
4. Defenders will get crushed by Centis, which will be harder to deal with because you got strategy instead of a more useful tech or some more riders
@@nithraliabrawlstars6541 Literally not true. It takes 2 unboosted hexas to kill a defender with no defence multiplier. Proof: ruclips.net/user/shortsr36nTWSTQkU?feature=share
@@yoppyyoppy6794 Sorry you are right. Somehow i had it wrong in memory. They are stronger than i thought.
Shields are Completly useless against hexapods.
Wow I'm going to have to try this out, tired of being a loser 😡
If imperius earned the technology to burn forests to get farms at the same time they get mills they could become one of the strongests economy in the game and put a great fight in a 1v1 against Bardur
is this ur first sponsor?
GULLYY SELLS OUT???
(Joking btw, way to go for being big enough for a sponsorship)
Hi Gullyy please ask midjiwan if they could add these features
- [ ] I love the game but here are a few things you need to add to make it worth 5 stars
- [ ] 1. Please add a feature in creative mode and pass and play games wher you can choose exactly which tiles go where(so that you can play or share your custom seats with your friends).
- [ ] 2.please add a settler unit under free spirit that can set up military bases or workshops that produce stars( this would be awesome when I play online with my friends)
- [ ] 3.make it so that you can disable the screen where you have to click start to start your turn in settings this would be amazing when I am playing with peace treaty’s in pass and play with my brother.also make it so that you don’t have to see the other players turns in pass and play,online (not live games though) and single player.
- [ ] 4. Add might and glory to singe player and domination,perfection and infinity to multiplayer.
- [ ] If you could do make all of the changes this would easily be the best game of all time and the money I spent on all the tribes would be worth it.
- [ ] THANK YOU Gullyy!!👍👏👏
You are the best Gullyy
I have played quite a few games with cymanti. In my personal opinion, you need to counter cymanti through road technology. Thanks to the roads, you can move units much farther than the cymanti and their shaman can. But if the map is tiny dry, then the cymanti are almost invincible. Only if against them are not the same cymanti.😊 🕷
yadakk :)
@@mysticcr8tor773 Yadakk is correct. But they have a slow economic development. I think the best opponent for cymanti is bardur with researched road technology
NOOOOOOOOO! MY ENTIRE STRATEGY! Come onnnnnne.
Beat Cymanti using Yadakk the other day.
00:01 no because i just wrecked cymanti and see whether i followed the basic principals
Funny thing is this is not relatable as a cymanti player i always go full economy till I see enemy borders(1v1) or i give a peace treaty (1v1v1+) and I've only lost from a insane amount knights and catapults. My tactic is doomux spam