This is a D.C. generator off a 1961 Ford Falcon that I try to make work for my restoration project. It had some most unusual problems, but I managed to fix it.
The best part of re-installing the original generator is because the Falcon's engine originally came off the assembly line with it. Nothing like presenting the engine bay in a vintage car at a cruise night looking like it should.
Great job! Fiddling with old cars IS all about fun and learning. When you replace the generator bearings, consider whether the generator fan needs to be swapped, my bet is that the one on there now is turning the wrong way.
Just Sub'd you. I discovered your channel by accident while desperately looking for some help for my '63 Mercury Meteor's generator. Your personality is unlike all of the other automotive show-you-how-its-done types. I find that refreshing not to mention your DIY attitude. I am of the same caliber...Everything is a learning experience and when I spend precious time learning, I'm a happier person. I restored my Meteor by myself. Every nut, bolt, hose, wire, chrome and glass came out, was cleaned and repainted. Some days were amazing and others were horrifying. Yet, the car and I came out on top. (You can see it on Wikipedia for Mercury Meteor. Mine is the red S33. Anyhow, shes rollin' again but recently I learned that the battery had not been charging this whole time since I tore it apart. Ghaaaa. The Generator and Regulator were always mysterious to me but after all this time, why stop here? So I pulled apart the generator, replaced the bearing and bushing and brushes then set out to do some testing. The generator was only outputting 1-2vdc at best. The car still has the original generator and regulator and I have a spare NOS regulator. The thing stumped me until I saw that you wired yours like a motor. Brilliant! I did the same and my gen spins. Not scientific, like you said, but it was data. Mine spins clockwise as a motor BTW. Anyhow, I'm still testing and not understanding why it's not putting out the right voltage. I spin it on the bench with it in a vise. I use a 15/16th socket on the pulley nut and drive it with a high speed drill. The output is still low. When I close the isolation point, it draws 30a which is strange. I have the service books like you so I will continue testing, although I don't have the fancy tools they illustrate in the book. I have my voltmeter and will continue the fight! Thank you so much for this video. Please make MOOORE!
Yea, I was gonna say, installing a set of bearings wouldn't hurt, after all, the last thing you need is for the generator to seize up on you while driving it, also it would be wise to install a new voltage regulator, that would your best work. I had install a new regulator & generator on both of my 58 EDSELS, it was hard removing the bolts off, and it was hell installing it back together, but I got it, and now they both work excellent, of course I had polorize em before starting the cars, great video. 👋😉😁👍
I need to get my generator addressed soon. I'm not sure if it works, and one of those posts is loose so it probably doesn't. But now I know what to look out for!
Just watched your video, I'm not sure about the gen. spinning backwards issue, but polarizing a gen. and voltage reg is a very simple procedure and to my understanding needs to be done any time the battery goes dead, disconnected or a new battery put on. there are some great videos on you tube just search "how to polarize a generator". I came across it while researching issues I'm having with my tractor generator. Great video, cool car.
What made me ask the polarize question is when you changed field wires would polarize do same thing? I have a 62 sunliner. Every few years the brushes get sticky in holders. No other generator issues
Would a bad generator cause the falcon to die? On our 60 ranchero the light doesn’t stay on but the car wants to die. I also get a loud clicking noise from behind the seat and the gen light flashes?
C'mon man, since you were already "upgrading" from alternator to generator you should have just converted the car to positive ground! What's wrong with you!? :)
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You did it because you aren’t a “catalogue builder”. You want to know how things work. That’s lost on the past few generations. Great work!
I can tell you had fun fixing it. You had that (it can't beat me) smile on your face when talking about it!!!!
The best part of re-installing the original generator is because the Falcon's engine originally came off the assembly line with it. Nothing like presenting the engine bay in a vintage car at a cruise night looking like it should.
Way to stick to it! Very inspirational. Thank you!
Great job! Fiddling with old cars IS all about fun and learning. When you replace the generator bearings, consider whether the generator fan needs to be swapped, my bet is that the one on there now is turning the wrong way.
Just Sub'd you. I discovered your channel by accident while desperately looking for some help for my '63 Mercury Meteor's generator. Your personality is unlike all of the other automotive show-you-how-its-done types. I find that refreshing not to mention your DIY attitude. I am of the same caliber...Everything is a learning experience and when I spend precious time learning, I'm a happier person.
I restored my Meteor by myself. Every nut, bolt, hose, wire, chrome and glass came out, was cleaned and repainted. Some days were amazing and others were horrifying. Yet, the car and I came out on top. (You can see it on Wikipedia for Mercury Meteor. Mine is the red S33.
Anyhow, shes rollin' again but recently I learned that the battery had not been charging this whole time since I tore it apart. Ghaaaa. The Generator and Regulator were always mysterious to me but after all this time, why stop here? So I pulled apart the generator, replaced the bearing and bushing and brushes then set out to do some testing. The generator was only outputting 1-2vdc at best. The car still has the original generator and regulator and I have a spare NOS regulator. The thing stumped me until I saw that you wired yours like a motor. Brilliant! I did the same and my gen spins. Not scientific, like you said, but it was data. Mine spins clockwise as a motor BTW. Anyhow, I'm still testing and not understanding why it's not putting out the right voltage. I spin it on the bench with it in a vise. I use a 15/16th socket on the pulley nut and drive it with a high speed drill. The output is still low. When I close the isolation point, it draws 30a which is strange.
I have the service books like you so I will continue testing, although I don't have the fancy tools they illustrate in the book. I have my voltmeter and will continue the fight!
Thank you so much for this video. Please make MOOORE!
Great video and it's easy to understand why you did the work. Your car now has the charging system that Ford originally equipped it with.
Nice job 👍
That feeling you get when your kicking yourself for even touching the damn thing, but you actually get it to work......priceless!
Man what a great fix! Way to go man.
Yea, I was gonna say, installing a set of bearings wouldn't hurt, after all, the last thing you need is for the generator to seize up on you while driving it, also it would be wise to install a new voltage regulator, that would your best work. I had install a new regulator & generator on both of my 58 EDSELS, it was hard removing the bolts off, and it was hell installing it back together, but I got it, and now they both work excellent, of course I had polorize em before starting the cars, great video. 👋😉😁👍
This was a Excellent video you taught me everything there was to know about a generator system on the old school cars.
Thank you.
I need to get my generator addressed soon. I'm not sure if it works, and one of those posts is loose so it probably doesn't. But now I know what to look out for!
How about 1234 Maple St. ?
Be advised a Ford model A 1929 looks very much like yours, and its positive ground... Love your diagnostic's
Just watched your video, I'm not sure about the gen. spinning backwards issue, but polarizing a gen. and voltage reg is a very simple procedure and to my understanding needs to be done any time the battery goes dead, disconnected or a new battery put on. there are some great videos on you tube just search "how to polarize a generator". I came across it while researching issues I'm having with my tractor generator. Great video, cool car.
thanks - good info
You can polarize gens by simply shorting them out
"I'm emotionally involved at this point." Ain't that always the way.
12:54 Hey! I've done that man!
13:54 That too man.
Very cool video
I bet that was a head scratcher! And yes, those hoods do hurt the head! Lol!
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If I remember correctly take wire from positive touch it to field momentary to polarize the generator
I bet that was a 6 volt positive ground generator for a 1955 and older application someone put on the car not knowing any better.
What made me ask the polarize question is when you changed field wires would polarize do same thing? I have a 62 sunliner. Every few years the brushes get sticky in holders. No other generator issues
What, no scrap yards in CA?
I noticed you never polarized the system.
Did you polarize it?
Would a bad generator cause the falcon to die? On our 60 ranchero the light doesn’t stay on but the car wants to die. I also get a loud clicking noise from behind the seat and the gen light flashes?
I would say probably not. I've never heard of anything like that.
Good job,...now for the over charging problems?......like I have!
I don't know, mine doesn't. Maybe the regulator points are stuck shut.
200 cu in in 1961? I thought they were either 144 or 170 cu in until about '63. But much of what I think isn't quite accurate, so maybe not.
Correct. This car had a 144 originally. At some point someone replaced it with a '66 200.
C'mon man, since you were already "upgrading" from alternator to generator you should have just converted the car to positive ground! What's wrong with you!? :)