What is NEXT for Esteban Ocon?
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Esteban Ocon is LEAVING Alpine but where does he go next? Matt and Tommy discuss his options.
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Piastri and Alonso giggling in the corner watching this unfold
Well, in Alonso's case he doesn't have much else to giggle about right now. 😄
Crylonso giggling with what? 2 Q1 eliminations with a faster car?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
11 winless years of TEARS?🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wonder how much Alonso regrets helping Ocon get a win…
@@jessemcdonald2315 Well, when you consider that was at Lewis' expense I don't think he'll regret one bit.
Ocon + kmag as teammates would be carnage... please make it happen 😂
Kmag + Grosjean round 2!
Even if they drove a Ford focus they wouldn't stay within the cost cap.
It wil not happen. Haas needs money, Ocon has nothing.
@@matthijszeeman5351my best favourite quote about k-mag is still when Alex Jaques(iirc) went “he could start an argument in an empty room”
F1: Twisted Metal
In Indycar, there are teams with just one car. THE perfect solution, if Ocon can find the budget.
He doesn't need that much of a budget to drive in Indycar, if he says he's looking for a drive there he will surely get at least a Prema or maybe even RLL seat, from there a Ganassi or even Penske seat might open
@@evandrochaves9596 Where can I buy those Prema energy drinks? How much does Prema pay their best drivers?
@@evandrochaves9596 Those teams are in the BUSINESS of racing. They can only come up with money for a driver if the team's sponsors want to be associated with that driver/team combination. It's not like teams just have cars all paid for and then just picking the fastest driver.
He did survive in F1 for years, so he probably got several sponsors. I agree that Indycar might be the best option for him.
So first we get Tommy without glasses, now with a beard. What's next, Matt with a clean shave?
Now don’t go silly. . .
If that happens it will be on DTS.... 😂
Shirtless Tommy sporting absolutely chiseled chest and abs with the word "soulless" tattooed all across it probably.
We need an intervention with Tommy and Matt.
Don’t tempt him
when Beard Tommy and No Glasses Tommy team up its going to send this community
Left field suggestion here.
Besties Ocon and Stroll should start their own team.
See how long their friendship lasts.
I don't see him in any other F1 team.
He is definitely got a seat lined up. He is on fire this season
@@gopr3117you don’t mean ocon right?
@blasecorrea8350 I mean...its a different fire but he has been in fire this season
Agreed. He’s a good driver, but if he can’t be a good team player his value to any team is not much. He’s not a marketing positive, and he brings the risk of costing the team more in points and inner team strife. Long term they should nurture young talent at the expense of early growing pains.
@@blasecorrea8350 you don’t watch the sport clearly. He’s crushed Gasly this year, especially in qualifying. If any of you mugs were actual observers of the sport you would know this lol
Alpine boss wasn't playing around huh.
He got that out of his system when he ran the team that designed the current Alpine powertrain. That was ALL a big joke.
they call him... the guillotine
he said "on ca trancher dans le vif"
which can be translated to "we will cut in the living"
He has no clue how to run a team
My theory: Ocon was told that he wouldn't be retained sometime prior to Monaco and then he just didn't care to play the team game on the opening lap
Maybe, but a great way to make sure you don’t have a seat in ‘25 too
When has he ever played the team game?
I'd love to see more young drivers. I've heard enough comments about Ocon from other drivers at this point that I do wish he went working in another racing series.
i cant seem to see how ocon going to have a seat, when there is alot of options for teams on the table, dont think anyone want a driver that lose points for no reason
Especially with a host of exciting rookies on the cusp. Why have a vet with a bad attitude who always crashes into his teammate when you can have Liam Lawson or Antonelli
yeah, his only options really now are hass and williams and neither will want a driver like him when hes shown hes not a teamplayer and they need their drivers to work together to push into the points where they dont belong rn
Plus he's French which doesn't help
@@jaquandrejones exactly, i simply can't see him being wanted, have a reputation of not being a team player rules out lower teams which needs driver that hunt for points as every point counts for them, race results isn't promising either, which rules out any of the top teams like merc and defo not rb. that really left with him with no one wanting him, and when there is that many rookies waiting for a seat with many have great potential such as lawson, antonelli and bearman, he will be on the low priority list to get picked
@@Im_JLC exactly hass a highly likly chance of keeping kmag than hiring ocon, as kmag even tho he is not really keeping up with hulk but he is helpign the team massively buy securing points for hulk
There were rumors that Ocon would leave the team way before the Monaco incident. What happened there was just the confirmation that Alpine needed to make the decision to not renew Ocon's contract.
Exactly
Out of F1 for sure. No team wants a driver who drives that aggressively against a teammate, especially if said team is struggling to score points.
What's next for Ocon? Renault Clio Cup.
Good luck litlle weazel
Back to Bobby Cars
You are smoking straight ROCKS if you think ocon could ever reach Ferrari. What the fuck is that take💀
He's not a bad driver.. but he's not a Ferrari driver.
Ferrari is cool but it’s not like every driver they’ve had is a top tier champion level talent.
I could see down the line having Ocon as a strong 2nd to Leclerc. I wouldn’t do it personally but he’s a decent driver if he would accept being 2nd guy in a good car like Perez does
@@davebigman240 is there a non-zero chance he becomes a Ferrari driver? Sure, same goes for me or you. But let’s be realistic, he’s done in F1
I want to see new drivers, so ship off to another series
Me too!
Yeah you want a driver capable of getting podiums to move over for crappy F2 level drivers 🤡
Me to. Alonso, Hamilton out
@@joaom2057 more like Daniel, Hulk, Kmag, Perez out. Alonso and Lewis are champions. Can't discount them
@@Urgrannytranny só what. More 20 years in f1? They are the reason why so Manny god young drivers don't even have a chance
No where, he is done.
Unless he has good sponsors and a lot of money coming with him then he is no where near done
This
Agreed, too much talent waiting in the wings and better talent on the market. He had a good run and is a nice enough guy, but he's wearing out patience everywhere and isn't exceptional enough to keep ignoring bad habits like this.
I hope so. It would send a message to young drivers coming up: don’t screw over the team and your teammate.
F1 is far more a team sport than it’s ever been. Especially true in the midfield where every point matters.
Sainz has missed out at RedBull because he didn’t get on well with Max, and even worse, their fathers hated each other and created untenable conditions.
KMag is at least a good teammate. He’s just too slow. I’d rather watch him than Ocon any day.
no F#1 knowledge spotted, faster than most of the other F1 drivers, F1 GP winner in an Alpine and has not caused that much incendents, just Netflix fans view...
he is going to Sky F1 french channel
😹😹😹
😂😂😂
He's not wearing a beret and a string of onions round his neck!
Where he will piss off every pundit in France and get fired after one season.
Ocon is going to enjoy his time in the Endurance circuit now
Way more time to crash intro teammate. Smart move
Ocon And endurance Is oxymoron
Touche
He’ll just blame his teammates and try to undermine their stint in the car so he can jump in and look like the hero.
12:10 the no-seat racing suit 😃😃😃
Ocon has also been a chaotic team mate, the amount of damage (and budget for the cost cap) he caused to his team because he is overly competitive against his teammate. I would not be upset to see him gone.
Tell me who was guilty in the following incidents : Hungary 2017, Spa 2017, Singapore 2018, Interlagos 2022, Australie 2023
@@GinoLaMainFroideand yet, it’s always him that’s involved
@@GinoLaMainFroide The common factor still is Ocon even when he's not a fault he's more often involved in teammate incidents than those teammates when partnered with others.
The consequences were that dropping him early makes alpine much more appealing now that officially ocon is not continuing and ocon will not have a bargaining point saying he might extend with alpine.
I really think that Ocon would fit in perfectly in NASCAR.
would love to see that lmao
I'd give him a year or 2 in swamp buggies first, but agree.
Great. I dont watch NASCAR, So i would love to (not) see it
🤣
we dont want him either
This wouldnt be a thing if it was a one off, but this is a recurring thing. He's been in F1 for PLENTY of years and has a habit of making very unwise decisions albeit being a very fast driver. At this point he's a liability, as a squirrel would known his Monaco "overtake" was going to end poorly. I hope he doesnt get signed
Hope your comment get banned
You can't have Ocon wrecking Bearman's first F1 season!
Bearman will do that himself with his F2 campaign.
If Bearman is as good as in F2, he'll be 5 tenths off, you can't collide with your teammate when you're that far off. Just ask to Lance Stroll.
Esteban Ocon??? More like, Esteban Ogone
More like, Estebanned Ogone
More like, Estebanned Ocoff
My Ocondolences
Ocon still better than Gasly
@@PjXu98exactly they get rid of the better driver lol
I love Ocon. I want him to land a good seat… but sadly there aren’t many good seats left
I was at Alpine F1 today having a tour and it got announced mid my tour of the factory.... #awkward and both drivers were there for canada sim work
Really?! Wowsa. Sounds like fun otherwise.
Massive for Jack Doohan 🇦🇺
The Australian F1 seem to get on well with their teammates. Two Frenchmen in a team was never going to work. One Frenchmen and an Aussie would work, an Australian can bring a relax and friendly feeling to the team. Jack Doohan could be up there like Piastri has been.
Also see stereo typing:
@@amonero1 Possibly but Ricciardo has been the only teammate that got along with Ocon. The only other driver who could get along with Ocon is Piastri.
@@amonero1 I don’t care.
@@michaelcobbin well to reply twice it seems like you do 😂
The realistic options right now are Williams, Sauber and Haas... and he'll probably go to the second best option after the best one is taken by Sainz
'I understand that with my agreement Alpine F1 have put out a press release that I am not driving for them next year.
This is correct and I have not signed a contract with Alpine for 2025.
I will not be driving for Alpine next year' -Ocon probably.
I lost it with the Linked in sponsor.😂😂😂
Hear me out.
AJ Foyt Racing in Indy. Imagine the fireworks between Ocon and Ferrucci
Omg that would be great, “and here comes Grosjean with a steel chair! Whoa, whoa, WHOA!”
Tommy going for the "every character in the Guess Who game" look.
I will never un-hear the phrase Daddy Vowles from this moment on until the end of my days
daddy vowles and logie bear
Ocon already has a deal done somewhere, that's why it's been announced now. As Tommy says, Alpine trying to spin it, corporately, by owning the narrative (in light of PR fallout from Monaco). In PR terms, it also defuses the noise after the last race - "It's done. We're both moving on. We can stop talking about it". But they absolutely wouldn't have announced this unless Ocon had something in place. This was a mutual decision behind the scenes and the timing of announcement suited both parties.
Get Yuki in that Alpine to restore their bromance, *ONCE THE CAR IS NO LONGER FUCKED.*
Ocon no seat…… 9.9/10
There is a strong indication that Doohan, Lawson, Antonella and Bearman will be in F1 next year. Ocon is a good driver but should have matured by now, having seven and a half years under his belt. Oscar, Charles and Lando have changed the goalposts. Sainz is a better driver than Ocon; he has to go to a bottom-rank team for 2025.
@@michaelcobbin there is no chance all 4 of those drivers will be on the grid next season tbh. RB have said theyre happy with their line-up, I doubt doohan will get a seat because of this, just because how hard it is to actually get a chance in F1. Antonelli is very young still, so a chance he wont be put in yet, Bearman could possibly replace KMAG though, but it depends if Haas want more experience or not. F1 teams dont like to put in new young drivers much, so yeah I doubt all 4 of them will be on the grid, it would be cool to see though.
@@bigdawg44444 Ocon needs to find a seat, and he has trouble working with teammates for most of his seven years in F1, so why would a team take him? Audi wants to get rid of Zhou and Bottas with new drivers. Bottas will find a team, but I doubt Zhou will. Haas wants to do the same thing as Audi and replace its drivers. Hulkenberg will go to Audi. KMag is still a risk, so why would a team pick him? By the looks of it, Bearman has the 2nd seat at Haas. Audi and Haas are looking for an experienced driver, and Yuki is a good option. Sainz will go to Williams. Mercedes wants Antonella. Red Bull is keen to get Lawson into Racing Bull but also intends to retain Ricciardo. Perez brings in sponsorship and $$$ to Red Bull; hence, he will be retained. With Honda moving on from Red Bull, Yuki no longer brings sponsorship, $$$ or marketing to the team, unlike Ricciardo. Out of Bottas, KMag, Zhou, Sargeant and Ocon, Bottas is the best option as he is a race winner, is fast and doesn’t crash a lot. Alpine has indicated they will take their time, indicating that Sainz, Doohan, or Mick Schumacher are the likely choices.
All these ocon haters are so stupid. Ocon will get signed next year like it or not😂. You all haters keep crying
IMO, Ocon could join Haas and partner Ollie, a good way to learn team work by having him mentor Ollie.
Personally, I would prefer Liam Lawson goes to Williams. A Red Bull or VCARB seat isn't guaranteed as of right now. He works well with Alex, he has experience in driving one of the worst car on the grid in 23, and he is still somewhat young so he has a lot more potential to unlock. And Logan becomes reserve driver just like how Alex was in 2021 and take his time to actually learn F1.
My ideal 2025 line up :
Williams : Albon/Lawson
Audi : Hulk/Sainz
Haas : Ocon/Bearman
Merc : Russell/Antonelli
Alpine : Gasly/Doohan
Imagine being one of the mechanics at Ocon’s side of the garage and having to go to work again next race…
I think Ocon was leaving before the Monaco incident. I think he goes to Haas to try and be a number 1, with Bearman. I think Bottas goes to Williams. Sainz to Audi.
I shuffled them differently... Sainz to Williams, Bottas to Haas and Ocon to Audi. 😄
That LinkedIn suit 😂
LMFAO THE LINKEDIN FOR NO SEAT
It kind of bothers me that when mentioning new drivers, it's always bearman and antonelly. You always forget Lawson? Wasn't he promised a seat in 2025...
Yes, he's almost guaranteed to have a Vcarb seat for 2025... probably why he's left out of the discussion.
@@soundscape26Anddd... Vcarb just announced Ricciaddo and yuki contract extension. Yuki deserve a seat. But Ric? Lol.
@@Spankyy811 Where did you read that, uh?
"No one can have a compilation like Ocon can for colliding with their team mate"... I present you, Max Verstappen. He drove into Ricciardo 3 or 4 times.
"Sent him for a Home Run" doesn't translate well to the Americans. A Home Run is a very good thing it would be kind of like winning pole in that "LeClair hit a Home Run during that pole session." Think you wanted to use the term "Sent him packing" though that would me he isn't around now.
Nowhere I hope. His time is up
Imo, I don’t know. Like, none of the top teams need him. And he seems to unreliable for the other teams.
McLaren & Ferrari are sorted for next year.
Red Bull or Merc, almost impossible. As they don’t need him and he might just cause friction with either Max or George. True, they’d probably humble him. But they don’t need him, they need a reliable number two driver.
Aston, I doubt it unless Stroll leaves. And Alpine just got rid of him.
That leaves Williams, RB, Haas or Sauber.
I don’t see Williams, as that second seat is probably Kimi’s anyway. Plus, Ocon might try to battle Albon.
RB, that makes no sense as he’s incredibly unlikely firstly to get that seat instead of Lawson or Yuki or Daniel. Or to get promoted to Red Bull anyway.
Which leaves Sauber/Audi or Haas.
Haas I don’t see as if Bearman gets the seat, they’d want a reliable experienced driver who won’t try to cause an issue for Ollie.
Which only leaves Sauber/Audi.
Sainz is reportedly close to that Williams seat. I'm going bold and say Mercedes will put Antonelli in the car for 2025 already.
@@soundscape26 Which I’m cool with. People have this weird idea that I’m a Russell fan above all else. I’m not.
I like George as much as I like Charles, Lewis, Max or Oscar etc. But what I’m a more of a fan of, is Mercedes. Which is why I don’t mind how a Russell/Kimi lineup turns out in the slightest.
If George destroys Kimi, great. George proves he’s still the lead driver at Merc, everything is fine.
If Kimi destroys George, then I’m cool with that too as I want Merc to win, I don’t mind who wins for the team. And if they’re close, then great, Merc have two incredible drivers instead of just one.
Even Stroll leaves which we all know that is not going to happen. Aston Martin won't hire Ocon as long as Alonso drives there.
Haas realistically have two seats open and there’s no way Bearman is good enough for F1, much less a better choice than Ocon.
Vowels isn't agreeing with Toto to give Antonelli the Williams seat. Mercedes may not have another choice to hire him for that seat.
LOL @ the Haas scores. There hasn't been a worse driver option to pair with a rookie in the last 10 years. At least KMag has consistently show he's willing to be a team player and do whatever's necessary for the team.
But now if we're talking about a Ocon/KMag lineup, I would absolutely love to see that.
Bearman will get haas drive with kmag.
If Grosjean is to be believed, Komatsu wasn't impressed at all with Magnussen shenanigans in Miami.
In American football, we call a temporary quarterback to hold the fort down until the young guy takes over a ‘bridge’. A bridge quarterback, or a bridge driver until Antonelli takes over
There are better bridges than Ocon.
Bottas comes to mind (and he knows the environment).
Checo comes to mind (much better team player).
Albon comes to mind (I know he's just signed with Williams. Wouldn't be the first time Mercedes takes a Williams driver out of the blue).
@@angelrobles7201 I would absolutely take any of those guys mentioned before him
Nowhere.. he goes nowhere... just get the guy out. Goodbye
There's no chance for Ocon to remain in F1. Maybe Haas will take him alongside Bearman, but we have Bottas, Sainz, Perez and Kimi (and possibly Gasly) all fighting for the remaining 4 seats in Haas, Williams, Mercedes, Audi. Yes technically 2 seats are available at Alpine but realistically nobody from the current grid would prefer them over the other options.
The hate for Ocon is unfounded
To be honest I find it disgusting, it’s gone to for over the top genuinely, people need to grow up and get a life, and stop hating on a guy, that’s done absolutely nothing wrong to them
Honestly it’s just hypocritical and blind.
Like people will show videos of Ocon and Perez crashing in Belgium 2017 and they will either - somehow blame Ocon for Perez pushing him into a wall OR they will switch the drivers and say Ocon pushed Perez into a wall.
Honestly, I think F1 has the dumbest fanbase by a large margin.
And it’s not just fans. Even fing sky sports somehow blamed Ocon for Belgium 2017.
@@paperplane-db8qf exactly it’s a joke
Ocon and Gasly clearly never get on but it always seems like Gasly is the one who has the issue. Just the mention of Ocon and he gets the red mist
Gasly does have the issue, he’s get humbled in qualifying, and race results by Ocon, he’ll probably comfortably beat him for the rest of the season too
@@zlm4869 he’s always Mr Angry over the radio too
Exactly, when Gasly crashed out Ocon in Australia 2023, Ocon didn’t even publicly blame Gasly and took part of the blame to prevent Gasly getting a race ban from having too many penalty points.
Gasly is just a diva sometimes. His car was not damaged after all of that, but he acts like he never torpedoed his teammate into a wall.
@@paperplane-db8qf Gasly showed he was a diva immediately in that half season of Red Bull. He didn't just lose his seat over performance alone, he also just had an attitude
Tsunoda to Alpine would be great! He gets to be with Pierre again, Lawson gets to have his seat alongside Ricciardo! Everyone's a winner in that scenario!
Except that Tsunoda deserves a far better car.
Ricciardo deserves his seat? Have you watched 2024?
@@someoneunseen5168 Christian Horner doesn’t see Yuki being a Red Bull driver and thus will never be promoted to the top team. Yuki needs to shift sideways to get to a top team. Christian Horner loves Ricciardo and is probably the best out of the four Red Bull drivers at marketing and promoting the team. Ricciardo has done a lot of US TV talk shows circuit. At marketing, the only other driver that beats Ricciardo is Hamilton.
Hell no!
@@rosgoncharuk2403 The latest news indicates that Ricciardo will have a Racing Bull seat in 2025. The Racing Bill team principal has indicated that he needs approval from the Red Bull team principal. I can’t see Christian Horner say no to Daniel Ricciardo.
Wec or formula E. Maybe Haas, but I don't see him in any other f1 seat
It is illegal to see Tommy with a beard
You think that's a beard
Let's not forget Tommy is older than Matt too lol 😂
Don't hold your breath waiting for it to grow in.....
That's 1 pencil eraser stroke away from being a clean shave
Do you think he's trying to copy Norris?
I'd not be that surprised if Ocon doesn't grab a seat this year for a simple reason. 2025 is the last season under the current regs. Isn't that the perfect year for a rookie to get a feel for f1, and have them have a "meaningless" year in f1 to build some experience for them to be ready in 2026? Fairly certain introducing a rookie in 2026 is harder than in 2025
Imagine he goes to Red Bull and team up with Max 👻 Netflix can have a F1 drama series 👀
Options : Uber driver, Taxi Driver, truck driver or Retirement.
10 second penalty for Ocon
I swear internet turned real people into bots
I feel like in videos like this, you should do percentages that total 100%, nit just throw out random numbers out of 10 that total way more than 10.
I would love him at merc, and it works for both parties. Ocon goes to a better team than alpine and merc get a quick fix to their seat issue before kimi antonelli is ready. putting him in merc with george is a recipe for a nuclear missile and im all here for it.
It's not as crazy as it sounds. People always forget that Toto is Esteban's manager.
With George Russell there, not happening.
Depends how desperate Merc are for someone to fill that seat.
Why would they take Esteban for 2025 if they can have Andrea Kimi for that year onwards. Giving a rookie a good F1 seat isn't that uncommon. Lewis got 1 when he came into F1 and almost took the championship. It was McLaren-Mercedes back then, and Toto is desperate for a young talent. Do i think he is overhyped? Yes, but it could also be a repeat of 2007...
As a red bull fan i would love to see it. Osama Bin Russell And ocon... Every race they Will Crash together like Russell And Bottas
Indycar seems like a good fit, less team mate worries there. Seriously though a one year deal with Merc from his mate Toto to give Antonelli and much needed second season in formula Magoo seems fair.
How long in Indycar before Ocon and Grosjean crash into each other?
@@richtes haha inevitable. Throw some Santino craphousery in the mix too. 🤣
Drivers who deserve a seat:
1. Liam Lawson
2. Felipe Drugovich
Agree here, sub them in for Stroll and a VCARB
I like Ocon's ability to hold his performance to account, and he is very much striving to be the best he can. He does also have a very arrogant streak and is very quick to blame others, so I think that hurts his chances. I agree with Tommy about the no seat option being non-zero.
You have Bearman, Antonelli, and Lawson who have all essentially been confirmed that they will get a seat. There are 11 seats available which reduces to 8 once you take Perez, Gasly, and Stroll out. The 8 seats remaining become more complicated when you consider Doohan, Schumacher, Maloney, and Hadjar could all be in contention as well, to varying degrees of probability. That all means once you include Sainz, Bottas, Ricciardo, Tsunoda, Zhou, Magnussen and Ocon you have 14 drivers for 8 seats.
My guess would be of those 8 seats on driver rating and commercial appeal I would think that:
- Audi: Sainz
- Williams: Bottas
- HAAS: Bearman and Ricciardo
- VCARB: Hadjar and Lawson
- Alpine: Tsunoda
- Merc: Maybe Antonelli, Ocon, or Schumacher (Bottas would be better but he won't sign for 1 year)
I would be sweating bullets if I were any one of the drivers without a signed deal right now.
Tbh Esteban will be fine as long as he shows he can be a team player
So he won't be fine lol
too little too late
His time in F1 is done
@@jacobsecor5015 lmao yes
Ocon lied to the stewards that he was responsible for the Australia 2023 crash which was 100% Gaslys fault.
So that Gasly didn’t get more penalty points and a race ban.
He’s a fine teammate. Just the narrative against him is nonsense.
Perez crashed into him 3/4 times they collided and no one says anything.
"Noone can have a compilation video of times X has collided with their team mates..."
Stroll and Magnesson: "hold my beer..."
Fun fact, Hamilton has collided with the same number of teammates as Ocon (3)
I’d be very surprised if Ocon couldn’t find another team, he is better than nearly half the grid
I find it interesting that seemingly no drivers will be available for a plan b for mercedes. If i'm ocon id wait until antonelli is confirmed because he might be the only alternative if merc deem antonelli not ready for the main seat or f1 in general.
Why is there so much hype around Antonelli? He is doing nothing special in F2. Leclerc dominated there as a rookie
Don't put that much weight on F2's current results... look at what past F2 champs like De Vries, Drugovich or Mick Schumacher are doing now.
Teams have other ways to assess a driver's potential than just the standings.
@@soundscape26 . It Looks like Merc's no longer want to depend on driver market for rest of the decade. That's why they decided to have a driver they can call their OWN who will have one of the 2 seats more or less permanently. The second seat could be filled time to time by suitable drivers.
Because Antonelli and Bearmans’ team are struggling
@@soundscape26
This doesn’t make sense. So the F2 champions aren’t that impressive… which means the guys that they beat are?
Antonelli has no F2 podiums yet, this Merc talk is ridiculously premature
@@Duval-In-The-Wall I think the F2 results play their part but don't tell the whole story. Teams also run both private tests and a couple FP1's and the resulting data is used to analyse a driver's potential.
Prema is not doing that great this season and that explains why Bearman and Antonelli aren't having a great year so far.
I’ve got nothing against Ocon, but Alpine is such an unlikeable team that I can’t help but relish the drama.
If only there were a couple of andretti seats to fill
The Magnusen name is big in the US, due to his fathers long time connection with Corvette, so that is something to consider when keep pounding KMAG for being not retained.
People are pretending that Sainz is too good for the Alpine seat. When he drove for that team, he was beaten by teammate Hülkenberg. That was after...2 or 3 years at Toro Rosso with RBR training?
Yeah but its not the same Carlos as Renault Carlos. Carlos of present is a race winner, alot more experienced esp after Ferrari.
Alpine would get a consistent driver in Carlos. But doubt he will want to be there if he has other options.
@@isy2320 Ocon is now a race winner as well. Let's see how the tam willight to sign him. RIC won a race with Mclaren in their darkest hours, he must be so popular.
Sainz is on average well off Leclerc. That makes him a second driver who CAN win. Why would Sainz be better than Gasly, another F1 race winner? Sainz was second that day, he only won with a car that was simply a race winner on merit.
@@Cloxxkijust remind You Carlos has won races thanks to his own strategies especially Singapore GP 2023. During The Singapore GP 2023 we saw Ferrari strategists were clueless. Even Sainz lack of stamina, is clearly a great planner to win races without their team advice.
Love the series and watch every episode!
Small suggestion, but for these “probability” type videos, I think it would be interesting (and more challenging) if you treated these likelihoods like a percentage, making the total add up to 10.
So you it’s more like a probability (3/10, 5/10, and 2/10) instead of separate estimations that don’t relate to each other (6/10, 8/10, 4/10).
The way Ocon behaved there is only one word: Karma!
Ocon Russel would be… an interesting combo.
I'm going for option exit: STRIKE 3, YOU'RE OUTTA HERE!!
The reality is that ocon drove for them for 5 years (a long time in F1 terms), won them a race, his contract was up and the car is shit, he was leaving after this season either way. The Monaco incident likely just expedited the announcement. Personally, I don’t think alpine is an attractive seat, the only thing they have going for them is being a works team. But it’s clear that alpine/renault are inherently dysfunctional, which has been showcased time and again since Cyril Abiteboul departed the team. I also think Prost leaving his advisory role was a damning assessment of the team’s commitment to F1 and what is realistically achievable for them. Senior management want results now, and that’s just not how things work. You need to have an infrastructure in place if you want lasting success. Instead they hired and fired Otmar, only to bring in Famin, someone with zero experience running a racing team but was handpicked by senior management internally… he’s a yes man. He tells Alpine management what they want to hear. He can’t even take accountability for this years car being an obese bucket of bolts, instead pointing the finger on figures no longer employed by alpine. Shaking up management can only heed some many results, when the flaws are higher up.
A seat in Formula Ego would be a nice fit for him
I suspect Carlos could be swayed by James Vowles to join Williams, leaving Esteban to join Sauber/Audi with Hulk and Bottas can be a teammate/mentor to Ollie at Haas.
3:40 - you missed a golden opportunity to say, "do Mercedes want to Russell more feathers between their drivers..."
"Estaban, this is James. Don't run into Albon is he is being held up by someone."
- "Psyke, you knew who you were hiring, have known me for many years in the Merc sphere!"
My take right now (and always is) is that Ocon is not a team player, he can play team game as long he is ahead of his team mate. I think he will always put himself over than the team, he is willing to kamikazes himself to get ahead of his teammate. The goal to be above his team mate is to promote himself for the next team.
Other than Bearmen and Antonelli, everybody seems to forget Pourchaire. When everybody was convinced last year that he will have a seat in 2025. Drugovich, and Vesti, (Svarcman ?), all of the is good and they are still there as an option. There are multible options for teams if they want to sign a young driver who proven himself in F2 the only problem is that they are not top priority for anybody as they didn't race much in the past years.
I honestly don't think the Monaco incident was that bad, he was fully alongside; unlike K-Mag who did a full send chassis torpedo on Checo
He was fully alongside when he lunged his team mate on the first lap after being told the driver who qualifies best gets priority the other will do everything they can to support them.
I don't think Yuki to Alpine is a harmonious lineup at all. It might be at first but Yuki has definitely improved from his AlphaTauri days, and they might now be a bit close for comfort, and while he has taken steps to control his emotions massively, they are still there. And I don't particularly trust Alpine to be a calming environment especially as he will want to prove himself and prove to everyone he has gotten better when compared to Gasly.
Still expect Gasly to beat him, Pierre was horrendous in 2022 and still comfortably won the teammate battle
@@Duval-In-The-Wall probably though Tsunoda got closer and closer towards the end, point is that it might cause tension, regardless of who comes out on top in the end.
Ocon as a child watched days of thunder and said
“When I grow up I’m going to be russ wheeler “
KMag & Ocon is an option…which is sorta frightening
Bearman already has that seat probably.
I know this comment is not really about Ocons departure out of Alpine. But with new available seat outside RB for Tsunoda, does it mean Riccardo + Lawson or there will be another pairing?
If Tsunoda leaves VCARB it will 100% be Lawson and DR
Which sounds pretty good ngl
He needs to go to WEC and Alpine needs to sign Yuki to reunite him with Gasly
I think he's gone, he won't be on the grid in 2025.
I'd back Ocon in a Haas to out qualify Gasly in an Alpine.
Exactly lol, Ocon is just better then Gasly I mean it shows too
Yuki and Gasly reuniting at Alpine???
I think Haas would be the best option for him.......
Ocon, Stroll, Bottas, Zhou - please, go somewhere else, plenty of young talents in a waiting room
Tommy: 4:50- 5:10 this is for Ocon next year (you say "merc is good with George and Lewis") and Merc does NOT HAVE Lewis for next year; so slot is open
I don't see how Ocon gets a seat because if if teams want a fast driver they pick Sainz, if they want a mentor/moustache they pick Bottas, and if they want to take a risk they bring up a young driver