It's True. All of it... Jar Jar Abrams HAD NO PLAN for Star Wars! Featuring Chrissie Mayr
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
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Spend billions to acquire the greatest IP of all time, have no plan to ensure a cohesive story to continue success.
The amount of ineptitude and incompetence is just mind boggling
@UCXiNOkP5esTXYi6kJ4B6o7w The original trilogy (Episodes IV - VI) was such a phenomenon, and they were so proud of what they achieved, that "the making of the film" became standard fare for virtually ALL movies. I never before geeked out on animatronix, CGI, stop-motion, ... and the thought that went into those shots, right down to panning the camera to the inside of the bend, because that's where you would look if you were actually riding that mine-cart rollercoaster. Anyway, a lot of fans got a lot more sophisticated, and got a lot higher expectations from the original Star Wars.
I think they had a great overall story line for the prequel trilogy. But as you say, I think George Lucas without some of those same people supporting him and checking him, left quite a lot to be desired, when it came down to the actual execution. Not plot holes so much as character holes. The story-telling had to give way to the predetermined spectacles, and even the spectacles themselves seemed to end oddly. An endless, repetitive, even boringly laws-of-physics-defying fight ends at the predetermined way at the preordained time, because suddenly having the advantage of standing on a low embankment gives the winner the high ground.
It's like one of Ryan George's Pitch Meetings when his explanation for something is "...because the movie's not over, yet."
Yeah, I thought the prequels created a mess too. Nice to see others who recognize the truth.
And Hollywood hire these people?
Doesn't make sense.
Indeed.
@@AReallyLongAndUnremakableUser Hollywood is about stroking egos, cronyism and failing upwards. It’s not who you know but who you blow (sometimes metaphorically, sometimes literally)
“If you fail to plan, you are planning to fail.” - Benjamin Franklin
never forget the 6 P's.....what are the 6 P's? well-hell lemme tell yas lol
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Okay Benji but...
"Everybody's got a plan.. until they get punched in the face" -Mike Tyson
@@paulpolpiboon9535 "that's true Mike but everyone puts up a good fight until they lose an ear"
-Evander Holyfield
@@paulpolpiboon9535 That is why it is important to have a GOOD plan.
I love how Daisy Ridley treats the shit writing like a joke.
"We didn't really know what we were doing, hehe! We had no plan and made arbitrary decisions as we went, ruining one of the most iconic stories ever created. We're so quirky!"
She probably doesn't know whether to laugh or cry... and then remembers how much money she made so laughter it is.
You haven't seen Ford's reaction to George's dialogue, or the prequels,...have you?
@@jjc5407 I don't think she even realized what she was revealing with her honesty. I like her a lot more, now, than I did, before.
@@lookingforwookiecopilot No, I haven't. I think George had a great vision for the overall, but what you're saying is totally in line with the problems I had with the prequels.
I heard Alfred Hitchcock story boarded every scene of his movies so he knew what would happen at each moment while filming. And this was - what 40 plus years ago? JJ should be delivering fing pizzas.
Hitchcock was a king among peasants, and those who came after never bothered to learn the many lessons he left behind.
@El Bearsidente Actually, most of us just watch Nerdrotic and others and don't end up wasting money on crap.
If JJ delivered a pizza to you, you'd probably open the box and find nothing in it.
@@jjc5407 he would just say it’s a mystery box....
@@ianhartley395 you'd open the pizza box and there'd be a note saying the pizza is somewhere else. As you keep searching and each location has another note that leads you on a chase. Finally, the last note reveals the pizza was never made, retconing the whole point of him even being there in the first place.
As Senica said a long time ago, “There is no favorable wind for the sailor who doesn’t know where to go”
George cooked them a 5 star meal and they ordered the fucking cornflakes
Disney thought they were buying an active studio like Marvel, but instead got one that was shut down and hadn't made a movie in a decade.
@@davidbowles7281 But they had stories, comics, novels, ships, characters, alien species, planets and everything else. They just threw it all out in a fit of spite and narcissism.
At least corn flakes is good for you. The sequel trilogy was poison in so many ways
@@adamramos3217 No sugar frosted wheat isn’t good for you 🤣
Didn’t take a genius to figure out Lucasfilm had no plan when creating the Sequel Trilogy of Star Wars films. XD
I think the case is being made that there WAS a plan, and they immediately threw it away.
Years later
Jar Jar Abrams: “Yeah I didn’t really know what I was doing with DC comics. I just wanted to create division and subvert expectations”
Fans: "We expected you to make a good movie."
Jar Jar: "Yeah, I subverted that."
We all know its gonna happen.
@@lancebaylis3169 Yep.
This is like being trapped in freakin' Groundhog Day. It just keeps repeating over and over.
Doomcock said it right his claim to fame was sticking a droid head on a beach ball
There once was a great fool, and his name was Jar Jar Abrams.
"Only as good as your last sequence, effect or joke"
Hmm... Sequence, effect, joke- That seems to sum up Jar Jar's approach to making films and shows quite well, I think.
Don't forget about the lens flare and shaky cam. So much damned lens flare.
I'm not a cinema expert, but I've always heard that the best directors have the entire movie story boarded, almost shot for shot.
Exactly
There are some "happy accidents" or "results of the circumstances" but JarJar has never gotten there. He just has "happy starts" and then runs away.
Like Fury Road... which was fully storyboarded before they even wrote a script!
It's the same in music, in my opinion. If you don't have the STRUCTURE within which to improvise, all you get is discord.
The BEST generals plan, plan, plan, and then do more planning. Then when the battle starts, they do what the situation calls for. Sometimes this means scrapping the original plan, entirely. But you still need some kind of plan.
I swear, Gary has got the "Jar Jar Abrams" stuck in my head. My friends thought I came up with that and I had to tell them its honestly subconscious at this point lol!
thats his name to me. 95 percent of the times ive heard or read anything about him its been from nerdrotic and rarely fails to use the mocking nicknames
Same , his name is officially jar jar for me
It just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?
"Me'sa Jar Jar Abrams. Me'sa ruin Star Wars."
The Ryan and Chrissie pizza bit at 4:30 is hilarious!
nope. that is not a pizza that looks like cardboard with sauce
Not putting Luke, Han and Leia in a scene together is the single biggest mistake in cinematic history. This.
the entire way they treated the characters from the original films was just dumb. "Oh my son is lost!" "Luke goes into exile because he couldn't kill the fallen kid whose leia and hans son....ok back up here what even?" "Han must die...why?" "Leia and Han are not together, all that meant nothing, han is back to his old ways...againt what and why is this a thing?" Don't even need to get into any new characters or the new enemy, etc, to the extreme amount of stupid that went into the sequels.
"Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it! You know, I just...*DO* things."
- J.J. Abrams
The Rise of Skywalker was bigger click bait than TFA. It has a title that implies the movie involves a Skywalker. Marketed as the end of the Skywalker saga. BUT..... barely features anyone actually named Skywalker and is ALL about the Palpatines.......
This drives me crazy. When you're a pleb nobody creator, like me, your stuff has to be tight, otherwise you'll never sell anything to anybody.
Now, here comes Disney. They buy Star Wars for 4 Billion dollars, and have no idea what to do with it. Let's just wing it, shall we? Heck, Star Wars will sell no matter what dreck we expell out ...
They had a billion dollar franchise and they winged it...
In Middle Earth they called him Wormtongue.
I've heard the term 'double-talk', but JJ has invented 'Triple-Talk'. He changes direction, misdirects the narrative, and loses the subject while dancing around it so much - by the time he finishes, one wonders what he was babbling about to begin with.
Everything can be solved by saying: "It's racism" It's sexism" or "The first ever..."
I mean, the plan should have been Grand Admiral Thrawn
@El Bearsidente Rebels was trash and should never have been made. I'm still surprised that Ezra hasn't reset the universe or some dumb plan they had with all this time travel nonsense
George decanonized that himself.
YES!!!
While it's nice to slam Jar Jar, and Darth Femaneddy, the ultimate blame lies with Disney. Their apparent lack of appreciation for what Star Wars truly means to popular culture ruined a beloved franchise.
Agreed. People often forget that there's a driving force behind people like Kennedy (just look at what's happening to Marvel). If customer backlash gets too bad, Kennedy will simply be given 10's of millions of dollars for a job well done and asked to pursue other endeavors.
I don’t even care about SW anymore.
You couldn’t pay me to watch it in a cinema.
_I only watch these videos for the mockery and ridicule._
Yeah bro recently the bad batch show was like 😪 to me
“…cause Jar Jar doesn’t do anything that isn’t planned.” Except his movies…?
Newsflash: the mask started to slip off after 2 seasons of lost. You can only do the same magic trick so many times before people catch on.
And as far as doing a 180, for JJ that would actually be showing some talent.
" Our priority is to respect these characters and stories you created George." - KK Dumba$$
They had more plans figured out for their agendas and identity politics then they did actual story and plot.
I still say that the "Times Up" group (which was co created and run by his wife) was nothing more than career help for JJ from his wife who used the group to attack JJs competition.
He and his wife used the "Metoo" BS as it was intended to be used.
As a series of hitjobs.
The idea that a multi millionaire would say the middle class has no right to exist makes me wanna start throwing up and never stop.
Being right sucks sometimes
Disney thought they would print money and the star wars brand would be immune to decay. Marvel and DC have the same mentality.
Maybe a plan WOULD have been good...D'UH, Ya Think?!? YEEEEEESH! \m/
He ends franchises. DON'T TRUST JAR JAR.
Disney: So, what's the first step of our new saga?
JJ: Do I really look like a guy with a plan?
No one sits a fence harder than Tim Pool.
Jar Jar Abrams: "hold my mystery box"
I grew up with the OT. I actually enjoyed the PT with my kids....The ST made me sick!
The longer you look, the more bullshit you see in the ST.
If you make a low-budget movie with unknown actors...it's fun to have no plan.
But for Star Wars!!!???...
That's like putting yourself on the menu to feed the lions...and then later you say: 'I thougth lions were vegan.'
I feel like people talk about this every month
They do. But this is new. Jar Jar admitting he had no plan.
Michael Arndt was originally tapped to write the trilogy, but when he asked for more time to make sure it was good they got rid of him, and the rest is history. The only idea they kept from him was holding back Luke Skywalker at first because he felt Luke would overshadow all the new characters, but JJ took it a bit too far and used Luke as a teaser/cliffhanger.
Jar Jar Abrams is all surface gloss and absolutely nothing else. His track record is abysmal. He’s got about half a dozen good films/tv shows to his name.
I have planned nothing, therefore nothing can go wrong. - Spike Milligan
(Except JJ).
Jar jar looks like pajama boy.
I'm just here to defend Fringe. Maybe the first season seems a bit all over the place but from the second season on J H Wyman took over the show was awesome and it clearly had a plan.
If you pay attention every story is solved and explained and makes sense within the lore of the show.
You guys should give it a chance. I have seen it four or five times from start to end
Fringe was the best thing jhar-jar has ever been involved with. Walternate was excellent, and subject 13 was a great episode. it _did_ tail off near the end, imo but Orci saved it from kurtzam and The Cinematic Antichrist. Lysergic Acid Diethylamide the aminated-style inside Olivia`s mind, was superb.
The question is how much involvement did JJ Abrams actually have with Fringe?
@@TheCentralScrutinizerAgain have you ever seen person of interest? It's another bad robot show but my God is it awesome.
It's a very slow burn but it has a great story that's very relevant today.
It's not a problem to change your mind if circumstances require you to do so, indeed to stick dogmatically to something in the face of all reason is the height of idiot lunacy...
...but not actually having a plan in the first place only shows you don't have a mind to change!
Did people forgot he is the man behind "Lost"?
Chrissie and Ryan sharing a pizza lol.
Omg Gary, just when I thought it couldn't get worse! Mr. Abrams inability just to say the word "Plan" is truly disturbing. A well crafted story requires coherent planning, otherwise you have nothing to guide the production. If all you want is movement and pretty colors on the big screen - give me a call! 😁
JJ Abram is Steven Spielberg and Kathleen Kennedy's love child.
Now Abrams plan on taking a huge shat on the DCEU.
And "official works" like these Abrams made ones are why fan-created productions are often so good in comparison. They may be low budget and they may not have cutting edge anything, but they have stories that weren't found half-buried in a feral cat's litter box.
Most writers worth a damn will tell you to at the bare minimum have an outline. It may very well change along the way but it is very helpful to have some sort of a road map. So the fact that you had a billion dollar company, handling a billion dollar franchise, one with significant wait and hype behind it, and you don't have any semblance of a plan is just maddening. It just makes me pull my hair out in frustration.
If you can’t or won’t do that, do a very rough first draft and just let everything spill out onto the page. You can take that as far as you can and make it into an outline, which you can use to make a proper outline and then rewrite the story with full structure.
Abrams reminds me of my wiperblade sound... "Dumbguy Dumbguy Dumbguy Dumbguy"
You HAVE to have a plan for any story. If you don't have a direction to head toward you won't end up there.
The new Star Wars trilogy hit me like a cold shower. I remember after watching last jedi turning to my friend and asking cautiouly: that was kinda bad, right? Like I couldn't believe they would actually mess up star wars.
Hoi, Jar Jar............NNNOOOOOOOOOO !!! The truth always comes out in the end !
I am shocked. Shocked!
He is just a fellow little man with a little hat, that’s why he got the job
It’s a club and we ain’t in it 😉
The writers of Fringe came with a good exppanation and ending, I really liked it. Of course, not thanks to JJ.
Completely agree, enjoyed it very much.
I found the final series rather disappointing. Up until then it was great. At least it had an ending though, unlike so many series.
The only thing worse than a lame ending is no ending at all. You invest all that time and then the story goes nowhere and you realise you've just wasted hours of your precious life. It's made me very reluctant to watch new series. I tend to wait until a series finishes, check it had a conclusion and what people thought of it overall before deciding whether to invest my time in it.
It's economically stupid not to have an ending. The majority of your audience is unlikely to bother to watch a series again let alone purchase it.
So much for the mystery box method.
You kind of wonder in a conspiratorial kind of way if he has malicious intent to destroy franchises out of some childhood complex. Or paid to fail so badly it’s just too coincidental.
In the future when someone accuses you of being any kind of "ist" doubledown and leave no doubt in their empty heads.
Ryan and Chrissie were the representation of me in High School during classes.
"he made the Force Awakens clickbait"
well said
Why does he get to destroy all the franchises.
This explains Star Wars : Jar Jar destroys Star Wars parts 7, 8 & 9. He's the result of getting a participation trophy for doing nothing worthwhile.
FNT is funny by chance.
FNT clips is outrageously funny, by design.
Planning makes perfect.
How do you get a job in Hollywood without knowing the basics of story telling?
His wife is almost a foot taller than him, which is disturbing. I mean, WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED?
When i see his name attached to a project, i instantly walk away - even if it sounds good. This was not always the way though. His name used to mean something, as did his work. Not any more - and never again.
He was always the emperor in his 'new clothes'. His reputation was never warranted.
@@jjc5407 Indeed. I realised that when i saw the abomination that was Star Trek 2009. How is this 'man' allowed to keep making movies i wonder.
B5 had a 5 year plan. This crap didn't think 3 minutes ahead
J Michael Straczynski showed everyone how it should be done. He doesn't get nearly the recognition he deserves.
"It doesn't matter who or what you are, Hollywood will FK you!" -RMB
He looks so much like Skreech !!! LOL!!!
This is what he has done his entire career. Now that we know how he approaches a project it is easier to see why all of his movies and series end in disasters. His stuff never really has and cohesion. It seems so disjointed and random. Like he decides just before he shoots a scene what is going to happen in that scene.
JJ ABRAMS Will ruin one of The most Amazing Comics Character : Zatanna .
She will be gay and hate men because her father sucks.
His version of “film making” is similar to companies which strip mine an area and leave toxic residue…and the move on to another site.
Just create a new narrative- these folks do resent that they don’t have any meaningful content- the fact that they can’t excrement success bothers their narrative
They need to feel they're being creative, when all the fans want is a faithful treatment of the original source material. They draw us in with "Superman" only to present us with a "Wonder Woman" movie. THAT'S what passes for creativity. The changes they make.
Peter Jackson's treatment of Lord of the Rings was good because of his respect for the source material. He was humble about it. Didn't put on airs.
"What's a plan?" - JarJar Abrams
How do you go into building the sequels to one of the most loved cinematic sagas in History thinking "I'll just wing it. It'll be fine!" ???
I will stand by my assertion that it was Into Darkness (and JJ flying without a plan in that movie) that snookered the Star Trek reboots. Beyond was the sequel to the 2009 movie we should've had, a more traditionally Star Trek-y movie that took those new versions of the characters and placed them into more satisfyingly Star Trek type scenarios to show them at their best, but for the actual sequel Abrams went in with his kind of shrug-of-god ("It might be Khan, it might not be Khan, we don't really know, shrug") and spinning over the same plot beats while constantly hinting at things that'll never get pay-off, classic Abrams.
JJ is just babbling through his statement like he's trying to fill up time until he can escape.
Disney what Have you done to Luke, Han and Leia !??
they paid billions for the IP.... and didn't have a plan = madness!
Just think about it - due to Disney Star Wars, neither the studio nor the public want another Star Wars film. Just think about that. And JJ made two of them.
Jar Jar is a disaster.
Hey now Fringe was alright, that's about the only cool thing his name is attached to.
Everything else is SUPER crapola
Didn't learn even after the failure of an ending of Lost.
He might as well say we need sunlight for vitamin D.
Having gotten older and looking at what we're going through with Star Wars now, I think it's a disservice to Jar Jar Binks to associate Abrams with him. I've watched the fandom go from not linking, even outright hating him, to loving him because either memes or because of the Darth Jar Jar stuff. We gave George more shit than we really should have for the Prequels, because he was, if nothing else, still making them with love.
Now that he's no longer a part of it, we were begging to have him back, because a soulless corporation turned it in to something that was truly repugnant. I would love for him to come back, to give us his Star Wars, even if we've lost some of our heroes, but that will never happen. I'm sure there were several reasons George made the choice to sell, but I wouldn't doubt that how fans had treated the Prequels played some role in that decision.
Prequels were still shit and Lucas deserved every bit of hate. Maybe more hate, actually. I'm glad he sold, but I'm not glad that Disney badly miscalculated.
@@davidbowles7281 Literally any 5 minutes of revenge of the sith is better than anything in the disney sequels simply like that. Take the whole film and compare it to them, theres no comparison, heck the 2nd half of attack of the clones is mostly better than anything in the sequels.
@@oneandonlysound3453 I disagree but that's okay. They are bad in different ways but maybe the prequel bad is more acceptable to you. I think the prequels are actually worse movies than the sequels taken as a whole.
given charge of hollywood and has only just realised in order to tell a story you need a start a middle and an end...so jar jar is doing big budget visual jazz improv...
I love it when a plan comes together ( Not ) The only plan here seems to be is trying to find when the broken clock is right twice a day!
Introducing the Jar Jar Abrams tank. It is able to destroy entire franchises in as many as 3 shots. While a plan is not needed, everything will always workout in favor of the Jar Jar Abrams tank. Just point it at whatever wonderful piece of culture and joy you wish to destroy and it will do the rest.
i wanna feed Chrissie Mayr... pizza.
I like Chrissie, bring her back again.
Chrissie Mayr is extremely cute.
Jar Jar looks like Weyoun 5 in that one photo...
Talk about basic knowledge - jar jar needs to wake up
He looks like he can be Charlie Day's older brother!!
Oh such wisdom jar jar
Gee, kinda like the lab leak theory.
Alias didn’t have a plan either, after Season 1.
Nope. All that Rimbaldi part that ran through everything ultimately went nowhere... and on the extras for the DVD boxset of the final series Abrams basically said it was never intended to be significant. Not intended to be significant? It was central to everything!!! Almost every episode everyone was after another ruddy Rimbaldi artefact! Abrams has no clue how to develop an idea, none whatsoever. He just throws things in to create a 'mystery' and neither cares nor understands that mysteries need resolutions for a story to be remotely satisfying. Storytelling 101 clearly passed him by.
I doubt he had any plans for Star Wars before being hired. He was knee deep in Star Trek.
"Learned the hard way"