Thanks for sharing . This is a very common thing . These silent under currents of racism a real and exist unfortunately. Chins up and keep going, believe in a better tomorrow..✊🏾
Human nature has a tendency to make it hard for outsider. And unfortunately, I am an outsider. I sometime wonder if the table was turned, if I would act differently? I would never know
we need to building our own businesses, work teams and community so that we don´t have to be dealing with constantly proving outself to others; of course without excluding or demonizing others
This can be hard to do. I honestly feel this is a human thing. I grew up in a all black country and they also have their own way of discriminating or of secluding other group of people based on other feature. However; at the same time, some other people don't do that. It's more of an individual thing than a group thing. It's hard for me to describe because I don't have real way of measuring it. Here is a pattern I am seeing that I feel it's hard to explain; each time there is a diverse leadership team, the person of color usually have the strongest education and strongest experience while the other people don't really need to have that strong experience or educational achievement.
@@techwitheds yeah it would be hard, uniting by race surely is too simplistic as a start, factors like religion and shared background is necessary. Malcomn x had muslim support while mlk christian for example. Starting small with like-minded in fundamental aspects is useful, for example i find Jews as a good example of this. trying to attract all 40 million at once is not a good idea. About being expected more than your peers, I Feel you there, Look at for example, the latest supreme court pick, check in google "Ketanji Brown Jackson's qualifications compared." Unfortunately this is common and I think the best that can be done is to play the game and whenever you have the chance, try to pick others like you (as long as they are competent) to slowly level the plainfield. Thats what i see many Indian software engineers do.
Same here!! Imagine being the only black guy on the team but being the one to be fired - not because of performance but because your position is not needed anymore. The kicker is that they hired a white woman right after at a more senior level instead of giving me opportunity to earn that promotion.
Fellow software engineer here and I've had a similar experience where you'll regularly be reminded that you're not always held to the same standard as other engineers.
It's definitely a real thing, unfortunately. At the same time, it seems whenever I am in a good team, this problem just disappear. There has been many improvements and hope the trend continue in the right direction.
Thanks for sharing . This is a very common thing . These silent under currents of racism a real and exist unfortunately. Chins up and keep going, believe in a better tomorrow..✊🏾
Human nature has a tendency to make it hard for outsider. And unfortunately, I am an outsider. I sometime wonder if the table was turned, if I would act differently? I would never know
we need to building our own businesses, work teams and community so that we don´t have to be dealing with constantly proving outself to others; of course without excluding or demonizing others
This can be hard to do. I honestly feel this is a human thing. I grew up in a all black country and they also have their own way of discriminating or of secluding other group of people based on other feature. However; at the same time, some other people don't do that. It's more of an individual thing than a group thing. It's hard for me to describe because I don't have real way of measuring it. Here is a pattern I am seeing that I feel it's hard to explain; each time there is a diverse leadership team, the person of color usually have the strongest education and strongest experience while the other people don't really need to have that strong experience or educational achievement.
@@techwitheds yeah it would be hard, uniting by race surely is too simplistic as a start, factors like religion and shared background is necessary. Malcomn x had muslim support while mlk christian for example.
Starting small with like-minded in fundamental aspects is useful, for example i find Jews as a good example of this. trying to attract all 40 million at once is not a good idea.
About being expected more than your peers, I Feel you there, Look at for example, the latest supreme court pick, check in google "Ketanji Brown Jackson's qualifications compared."
Unfortunately this is common and I think the best that can be done is to play the game and whenever you have the chance, try to pick others like you (as long as they are competent) to slowly level the plainfield. Thats what i see many Indian software engineers do.
Thank you for sharing your truth. I will share this with my son, who started in the industry 3 years ago.
I'm glad my story resonated with you.
Same here!! Imagine being the only black guy on the team but being the one to be fired - not because of performance but because your position is not needed anymore. The kicker is that they hired a white woman right after at a more senior level instead of giving me opportunity to earn that promotion.
Fellow software engineer here and I've had a similar experience where you'll regularly be reminded that you're not always held to the same standard as other engineers.
It's definitely a real thing, unfortunately. At the same time, it seems whenever I am in a good team, this problem just disappear. There has been many improvements and hope the trend continue in the right direction.
Very true!
Unfortunately