Backpacking Trends That Make No Sense
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- Is every backpacking trend actually good, and for everyone? There's a few modern trends in backpacking that really make me shake my head.
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I 100% agree about having the more comfortable heavier pack. Also cold soaking is insane and can't possibly be enjoyable.
agreed
I had the exact same experience when trying to use a frameless backpack! The comfort and weight transfer of the framed backpack is so much better. I also find them slightly easier to pack since and don't have to worry as much about clumps or items protruding into your back.
Part of me thinks frameless packs are just so the folks that use them, can talk about a frameless pack
@@MattyOutdoors frameless packs are for ounce counting pieces of shit such as myself, Matty.
@zakafx thats pretty dramatic.
@@MattyOutdoors lol as is your personal opinion. Cheers.
Yep. Then there’s me using on the other spectrum using a stone glacier carbon fiber xcurve.
Great video! Love my Feathered Friends hybrid quilt. Zips up like a full bag and closes up at the foot box. Amazing quilt and very recommended!
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I used to cold soak, then dehydrated my own and went with a jet boil for a few years.
For me the routine ritual of reheating food became a chore and a bore. I've been carnivore for about a year and have adopted a Spartan outlook on food. So now it's just mainly jerky to nibble on throughout the day, then a protein shake at different times and a protein bar at the end of the day. It works for me. I carry 3kg of food, which is enough for ten days, doing about 25kilometres a day. I still bring food back somehow.
sounds like you're running on a hard calorie deficiency if that's all you're taking in
Great vid Matty… heading out of Juan de Fuca trail on Vancouver Island tomorrow morning.
Think Vancouver will give Edmonton a good run.
Enjoy the trip, JDF is a spectacular hike.
For me, it's trail runners. I want to like them! Love them for short dayhikes and for trailrunning, but I absolutely tore my feet up on my last week+ trip and am back to boots after trying numerous lacing methods, different sock combos...there was only one brand that fit me I could find and loads of people love the LonePeaks, but I swapped back to my Lowa Renegades and couldn't be happier. Well, I do miss one thing - the thin fabric gaiters are so nice for just keeping schmoo out when I don't need full on knee high snow gaiters.
I think you just need to find the right shoe sock combo for yourself.
Topo Pursuits, most comfortable things I've ever put on my feet. Blows the LonePeaks away by far.
I picked up a budget 30L fastpack for ultralight fastpacking/backpacking. Running vest shoulders straps are great. I like how it transfers the weight to my core instead of all on my shoulders. When the load is around 25lbs I'll switch back to the framed pack.
I added thin shock cord with a cord lock on my pillow. It's adjustable so doesn't compress the pad.
tried a running vest, and its no different
Lol the cold soaking thing is just odd. There's a popular RUclipsr that once stated he doesn't eat to enjoy the food, he just eats to replenish calories. I was like, "How and why are you alive?" lol That was the most robotic answer to "why do you cold soak" I've ever heard. I'm with you, having a hot meal is just good for the soul. Even if it's just the last meal of the day and not every meal, it's just a part of being outdoors that feels good. But to all those cold soakers out there...I guess, do what you like? lol
I think cold soakers just do it so they can talk about cold soaking.
I always cold soak and I'm on the PCT now with more cold soakers than you would think. It's not odd at all, and I enjoy my food. Met several hikers that ran out of fuel and a few whos stoves broke. I'm fine with room temperature food
Matty, my wife and I both nodded in agreement with hot breakfast, dinner and coffee., a must have. My wife went the quilt route, I still love my sleeping bag . I am cold sleeper and I'm not tempting a bad night on the trail.
zenbivy setups would work well for you if you wanted to switch to quilts
Kings fan since 92/93, here... Congratulations on advancing, I'll be rooting for the Oilers to take the cup back home. 😊
Tough go for LA, facing the Oil in the 1st rnd 3 years i a row. Fun series to watch though, good hockey. Sucked to see the kings take so many bad penalties, especially with that unstoppable PP we have
I fixed my pillow strap yesterday. I purchased a length of that stretchy fabric, cut the buttons off with some of the old fabric, and sewed the buttons to it. I had the same issue you presented with straps and wider pads and now the over-tension issue is gone.
dedicated to the pillow strap!
@@MattyOutdoors ya man the dots on the back don't really help much (using the trekology aluft 2.0) and it's nice just keeping it in position. I don't really carry a spare shirt with me, that's a cool way to keep it in place though.
In the UK, my hikes most often consist of one or at a push two nights out. For at least the first night, I carry home cooked meals that have been frozen in mylar bags and simply reheat those and I never leave home without a (small softcover) book to read.
Strange how I was mocked for having those comforts as they were "way too heavy" by the guy who sat in his chair, drank two beers, and had to carry an extra 300g of water for his "lightweight" dehydrated meal.
The trend that makes no sense is they weight being all important but only when judging others.
I ignore people on trail, im focussed on the good time im having, and rarely even talk to random people at campsites or on trail.
I, too, read books at night on trips. Otherwise, I'm lying on my sleeping pad in the dark and not sleeping for hours. It's the only time I read entire books these days.
The last book I read on the trail was Silas Marner, by George Sands. Excellent.
@@chriseidam7319 A kindle or other e-reader is good for that. Can actually take multiple books if you wish. They retain battery long enough for most trips.
I also haven't tried cold soaking yet. But, I'm thinking I might do so this summer. I backpack in pretty hot, humid conditions. And, even out west there are hot days where a hot meal just isn't all that appealing. The tough part is knowing when a cold soak meal will be great, and when it will be raining and cold, and you'll wish you had a warm meal with you. The solution? Bring a meal that can be coal soaked or made hot by adding boiling water. Couscous comes to mind.
If I'm planning on hot days, I'll often take some flavored tuna, and pitas, or crackers. sometimes I'll pack cheese, and do that with crackers and some peperoni or something. But usually I still have a dehydrated meal. Most of the time, I'm eating my own home made spaghetti.
This. I think the term ‘cold-soaking’ is what makes it unappealing. When it’s hot out you want as light a pack as possible and hot meals can take forever to cool down and aren’t appealing either. As long as it’s not a noodle dish cold soaking is exactly the same as with hot water, just it’s the same temp as the hot air.
Also for long hikes it’s nice to roll into camp and have your meal ready to go!
NOTE: you need less water when cold soaking. Unless you like watery soup.
Matty totally with your brother I have tried multiple different frameless packs and sold all of them on eBay. I will stick to my DFC frame Zpacks arc haul. I have a love-hate relationship of quilts love them and warmer. Temps not as big of a fan in the winter so I own both. Cold soaking is 100% not my jam, totally with you give me a hot meal at the end of the day.
quilts have worked well for me year round. My last trip out to Eagle Lake with Bo, we hit -30 overnight, and I slept warm and comfy with quilts
I'm the same as you being a skinny guy with the backpack issue. I tried the UL frameless pack but having knee and hip issues I went with a framed pack with a lot of UL gear. And Amen to the hot meal and I know a lot of people don't like bringing chairs but my bones need that comfort rather than sitting on a hard log or ground. Great video Matty 👍
yep, frameless packs just arent comfortable
same here! I like a light load yet I want the comfort more. the great nutnfancy once said, "the firepower versus mobility". I will carry my fire power more than the light weight pack. and cold soaking? if you are into that, do whatever suits you. however, I will make myself a nice hot meal instead.
agreed on the cold soaking
Extra shoe lace on walking poles works for me.
nice!
Agree with you about pad straps with one exception; when forced into an AT shelter and the wind blows up through those floor boards the straps are worth the hastle.
sleeping in shelters is a weird concept to me, we dont have those up here
My gear is always changing but one thing that doesn’t - having a sleeping bag when in a tent. I tried the quilt (great when hammocking!) was awful on the ground! But I move around a lot. I switch between cold soak (summer) and cooked meals the other 3 seasons - but even I’ll admit that I miss my hot meals, hot cocoa, and coffee when I don’t bring a stove.
quilting on the ground definitely does take some practice
I don’t use pad straps either on my quilt. I do love my Gryphon Gear Aries 30. Super light and warm.
Cold soaking worked well for me when I hiked the TRT during hot summer. If it’s cold outside, that’s when I really want to cook hot food.
even on a hot day, I need warm food at dinner. im fine with a cold lunch on trail, but need a warm meal in camp
@@MattyOutdoors The hardest part for me was missing hot coffee in the morning. This makes carrying a stove about a necessity for me.☕️
A voice of reason IMO. There are so many RUclipsrs now who talk about all the stuff you just have to have to go backpacking - chairs, pillows, extremely war, pads and a pack for all occasions. I don't have problem carrying 10 pounds without a hip belt, but then I'd need another pack in the winter or if I need to carry food for a week. I don't deny that many types of gear might increase comfort on the trail, but the problem is that it's presented as necessary when you'll do just fine without.
Its a good thing I'm not like most backpacking youtubers :)
Too many of the same content creators pushing the same products. I don't mind suggestions and all, but I notice that a lot of larger backpacking content creators share the same products nearly in the same time frame as one another. Matty does this seldomly, which is one reason why I do follow him.
I tried an alchohol stove. Took too long to boil water for me. I am willing to carry a fast stove and a light pot. Tried tarp shelters. I got wet from rain, had snow blow in and got covered in bug bites (3 different trips.) I use an enclosed tent now. I did not bother trying a beltless pack. I do not do well with too much weight on my shoulders with a belted pack. No reason for me to try it with no hip belt.
tarps are pretty easy to stay dry under if you pitch them properly
I use the Zpacks Nero 38liter. I find that if I put a piece of a Zlite pad inside my pack, close to my back, it gives the pack shape and stability. My gear does the rest. Took me a while to learn how to pack it correctly.
all the weight is still on your shoulders though, so that doesnt really fix that issue
@@MattyOutdoors I'm sub 10 lbs. With the padded hip belts, my shoulder are doing OK. I was actually impressed by the level of comfort. That said, anything over about 22 lbs starts to dig in a bit.
Like you said, so many trends have come and gone. Used to be water filter pumps like Pur used to make, now squeeze styles prevail, but I have moved full circle to tablets for water treatment. Gravity filter for large groups, tablets for the rest. I ferl I have seen it all having started in the 80s but nope, more stuff keeps coming snd keeps it exciting. 😂
the squeeze filters are so light, and quick, its all I use now, big or small groups.
I didn't like the Enlightened Equipment quilt pad straps and also thought quilt straps were pointless. But I bought a Katabic quilt and their strap system is awesome. I'm an active sleep and it keeps things tight when I'm moving around. I was shocked at how well it works. BTW, I'm a Caps fan and I am sad this year and probably many more to come. But all the best to the Oilers. McDavid is a magician and I hope he gets a Cup.
the best quilt setup for active sleepers is Zenbivy
This was one of those videos that I was ready to criticize you regarding the pillow and the strap and then you threw a curveball at me with the shirt idea which is brilliant! I will definitely try this. I haven’t purchased that pillow with the strap by the way and I was getting ready to. This was an excellent time to video for me. 🤣
Also people who like cold, soaking are savages. 😅😅
I'm actually really surprised how many people didnt know about the spare shirt pillow holder/pillowcase hack. I learned that from one of my dads friends when I was 15 or 16. I guess I just assumed everyone did that, lol
@@MattyOutdoors to be perfectly honest with you I think I remember seeing it on a video at one time, but your video reminded me of it. I won’t forget this time.
Wrapping duck tape or luffa tape on a pen works great as well
another solid option
Yah I used to do this all the time when I was in the military always had to have a pen for writing grid and locations down so always had things to repair also
Or around a lighter as well
I don’t cold soak, and have no desire to. I say this to not come across as someone advocating it.
However, I did recently hear a podcast where a backpacking dietitian talked about cold soaking. She said “of course it sucks if you cold soak food that’s supposed to be eaten hot. If you want to cold soak, you have to bring foods meant to be eaten cold.” Makes sense.
I honestly dont think anyone actually enjoys cold soaking, they just do it to appear the hardest of the hardcore.
Speaking of backpacks, have you tried a Northern Ultralight? They’re made in British Columbia, totally Canadian!😊 I’m in Québec and I love mine, I bought it after cursing those failing typical old style crap they sell on big sporting stores.
I've had the chance to check one out, my friend Buddy uses one. Pretty nice pack
Chair didn’t even make the list huh? I thought for sure it would be the grand crescendo!
Counting the days man!!!
dude, im bringing my chair on our trip.
@@MattyOutdoors me too 🤷♂️
I've never used a quilt I'm skeptical I toss and turn a lot on it gets cold in the high Rockies at night
if you toss and turn, using straps will stop the drafts.
@MattyOutdoors might have to gwt one and try it out. And HUGE ty to the Oilers for taking care of dallas!
I tried cooking food and its just annoying, when I get to camp I want to toss down whatever has soaked in my jar and go to sleep, I can get to camp, setup, and be in my quilt in under 15 minutes. Plus I hate keeping up on fuel, its always an extra thing to find on resupply because the usual food stops dont have them.
i mean, if you wanna walk all day just to sleep, you do you.
100% agree on cold-soaking - it's disgusting. I'll gladly carry the extra 10(?) 12(?) ounces.
Isles fan here... go Oilers! I would love to see McDavid hoist the Cup, and for a Canadian team to win! It's been a while...
Isles are going to be a beast in a few years. Just a few pieces away
Umbrellas and rain skirts
For a grown man it’s too mary poppinish
pretty sexist statement
Good thing I'm not a dude then?
Not being an ultra lighter, zero regrets with the Zenbivy sleep system and Nemo Fillo. Stay warm, the pillow can't slide off the pad, and a comfortable setup is worth the little extra weight. I can hike with a heavier pack all day with no issues to my neck injury, but being stagnant or sleeping without the right setup....that's what hurts.
the zenbivy stuff was worth the weight before they brought out a UL lineup.
@@MattyOutdoors I'm confused. Do you not like that the UL version doesn't cover the whole mattress? If so why not just use the old version mattress cover with their new UL quilts (aside from price of course)?
I like everything about the UL setup
Trail runners... although I have integrated them into my kit and I love them, I still want my boots! Even in the humid, muddy climate I dwell. 👴
I only use boots in the winter now
I’ve been backpacking and camping since I was a boy scout way back in 1973. I had to much of my gear stolen so I’ve had to replace a lot. While I was amazed at my new tent (under 2 pounds and way way lighter than I had) but this pillow thing I don’t understand. My guess is my generation coddled the next generation to much. I did buy a pillow for some reason but I only used it like once or twice. A stuff sack with clothes is what I always used if anything and that is all I need.
Coddling has nothing to do with it. I was rear ended at 70mph while sitting in traffic. My Nemo Fillo will always be in my pack. Plenty of people have various injuries that make certain gear necessary to maintain functionality. Even if they just want to be a little more comfortable, that's hardly a reason to shit on people for it. I'm at the bottom of Gen X and all for shitting on younger generations in certain areas, but making things more uncomfortable just to passive aggressively brag about being tough is just stupid.
The pillow I carry is a stuffsack of clothes, but it has nothing to do with my upbringing, just personal preference.
+2 on the stove. Having a hot supper and a coffee in the morning. The whole cold food thing is fine for some people. I presume it grew out of desert hikers where hot meals and coffee where not needed. Never understood it. Back packing and camping is supposed to be enjoyable and fun, not a gut check.
a hot meal is a must.
Backpacking trends that makes no sense to me:
Chairs( when im done hiking, I want to eat and sleep)
Watches (guess i'm just old)
Solar panels to hang on the backpack (a powerbank is more relyable)
First aid Kit from stores (it always miss the things the things i need on trails, to make My own first aid Kit is better for me)
Things for making the best cup of coffee( someone invented instant coffee)
Hikingfootwear that are not shaped for the foot ( just how are you supposed to be walking long distanced with something like that?)
Chairs are a hill I'll die on! If I were 25 and blasting out 20+ mile days, I'd leave it home. I'm 55 and enjoy camp time just as much as trail time. The comfort it provides is well worth the 16 ounces. And when my butt isn't in it, my pack is (I hammock, so the chair keeps it off the ground). To each their own!
I agree with you on the coffee! There are some decent instants out there (but I'm sure that's a hill someone else will die on!)
Instant coffee doesn't compare to a pour over, or press coffee.. Those are worth the weight, IMO, if you like coffee.
@@sundaymorninghikes6275 I'm a 63 year old backpacker, and I love my chair.
I too am a fan of lacrosse.
lacrosse? never heard of her
@@MattyOutdoors 😂
Sorry, I'd had a few when I wrote that and thought I was being funny.
Bit hockey-clueless myself, I assume Oilers have done well?
@@shabingly its playoff season, 2nd round starts wednesday
@@MattyOutdoors aaaaaaaaaah nice one 👍
Wrap your tape around your lighter, it's also a fire starter...
This is the way
i prefer having my bright coloured lighter, not grey or black, just something im picky about
Can you share your sub 10lb base gear list?
Theres a video on it from last summer
Remember, Canadian pounds are equal to 1.45 US pounds, and 2.25 British pounds.
Hot food is a must...
Go Oilers!!!
ALL THE WAY
A trash bag stuffed with grass and then your jacket over top of that has been an easy pillow for me.
a crunchy pillow doesnt sound fun
Unless you're camping in the desert, winter, etc
Oooooh yes, and all the creepy-crawly things that come with this stupid idea.
Instead of lamenting poor backpacking trends of the past, I say we brainstorm poor backpacking trends of the future so that we can corner the market.
Anybody for an ultralight trail anvil?
drones carrying all your stuff is probably the future.
Go Canucks Go! 😁
The only place they're going is golfing.
The 7lb tent was a horrible trend.
who carries a 7lb tent?
Dumb question by a non sports person: what's with the blue-orange apparel in a hiking video?
My loyalty and love for the Oilers has no limits. Plenty of my gear, even my sleeping quilt is in the same colour scheme.
And, its the playoffs.
Wow so early
first in the comments, first in my heart.
Exactly the same opinion on all of these. Comfort counts for a lot. Not willing to sacrifice that anymore, however I respect other opinions. To each his own👍🏻
btw …. after last night 😖😖😖, time to start cheering for the Oilers. GO OILERS!!