I'm with Andrew. I couldn't care less about an always on display. Always disabled it in my Android days and will be disabling it when my 14 Pro Max gets here. Seeing the time and notifications is what my watch is for or I simply tap the screen to temporarily wake it. It's never been beneficial enough for me to sacrifice the additional battery life.
@@cgnomazoid It’s because the non pro iPhones don’t have the display to take advantage of it. I believe the standard 14 can only drop to a minimum frame rate of 10Hz which would obliterate the battery. The new pro model displays can go all the way down to 1Hz.
i mean on a oled phone if the aod display is basically just the time + notification icons like samsung or pixel so 95% of the screen is off the battery usuage is like 1% over the entire day so not really a big deal
Great podcast episode, as always! Petition to have David as a full-time member on here :p @1:01:00 -> When the Apple Watch is counting down "3...2...1", tapping (once) on the screen will skip the countdown and begin the workout. Yes, it's still an additional tap compared to other watches and the Watch Ultra, but we don't necessarily have to wait for 3 seconds before the workout starts 🤷♂
When Andrew and Marques were talking about the always on display and showing each other the iPhone 14 Pro I would have loved an overhead shot of them, in order to be able to see the screen. Never seen a podcast have that view, but it would be a super sick addition to the production quality and I know you’re always looking for that.
@@Cryptum404 if only there were some way you could’ve indicated your disagreement without having to post a comment. Maybe RUclips could add a little button underneath comments that people could click, like a little finger wagging or a stop sign. Call it the disagreement button or something. That way the comments can be reserved for people who intellectually capable of expanding on their opinion.
@@ReluctantSpirit lol. He uses Apple computers for all his editing in the studios (his whole team does), he wears an Apple Watch, has an iPad Pro and always carries an iPhone as well as an android. So yeah, totally an apple hater. Lol
The "mountaineering" guy is actually more of an "enthusiast hiker". When I'm thinking about mountaineering, I think about actual alpinism. That requires skills in rock climbing, ice climbing, dry-tooling, glacier travel, and crevasse rescue. The actual Garmin watch for something like that is more Fenix than Forerunner. I can't see the Apple Watch Ultra replacing this any time soon. Especially with a 60 hr extended battery.
Well the way they implemented it was classically Apple. I don't really want to see my wallpaper when my phone is off. Just give me time and maybe priority notifications in black and white or something. If I got the 14 Pro, I would most likely turn it off since it's not my cup of tea. But I'm happy with my 12 Mini
It’s such a bad implementation, I don’t understand why they did it. I think the classic MKBHD argument “they wait but they do it right” doesn’t work here. I think they waited for too long (they implemented OLED displays 5 (!!!) years ago and so they pushed too hard the concept of “we gotta do it differently”. Same with widgets, they’re not useful. They’re just a shortcut to an app that maybe shows an interesting info, but they’re not interactive. They just take more space.
This was by far my favorite Waveform episode so far (funny how I said the same thing for the hot sauce episode). Marques was so funny with some of his nonchalant comments. Andrew was so excited to hear about the hiking experience of the Ultra Watch while David was just being David, haha. Love it!
only the mountaineer didn't seem as much of an expert and more like an recreational hiker which is fine. What I was wondering if the apple watch will have map data like the Garmin Fenix have. If you are ski touring in the mountains this is the main USP you need.
For scuba diving you missed some major points: - Oceanic+ requires a subscription 80$/yr - Garmin has Descent Series for the same price and gas air integration and the scuba diving feature there is properly certified and walled of from the rest of the system, rather than some 3rd party app that may or may not be reliable
Just for the record, new Garmin Fenix from 2022 has dual band GPS, touch screen, many buttons to be able navigate without touch... and still weeks of battery life. Not saying Ultra is bad, on the other hand.... but it should last at least week, then I reconsider.
Also the problem with the "low power modes" means they take less GPS info. If you were on a flat road it wouldn't matter, but running 100 miles over the mountains, the time between those pings can add up and you can end up with inaccurate time and distance metrics.
The diving instructor is only partially correct. We use another type of gas with more oxygen called EANx in recreational diving. Almost all dive computers support this. Most of dive computers in the price range of the ultra also comes with air integration, meaning you can attach a transmitter in to your tank and monitor your gas on your wrist. Another point is that the best dive computers are big (like the Shearwater Perdix) because it caters also to recreational divers diving in cold waters. That crown will be terrible to use with gloves used in diving. There is a watch that already does what the ultra does for diving. The Garmin Descent line is basically a fenix with a dive computer that does air integration as well. More reliable battery performance too. It attaches to most of Garmin's emergency beacon/devices too. I won't worry much about the UI cause most dive computers start the dive the moment you descend. Shearwater does the best UI in dive computers. It's a good first attempt from Apple and I hope it inspires other tech and diving equipment companies to go further.
also oceanic+ requires 80$/yr subscription but it does do nitrox according to Oceanic. The really should've gotten a diver that spent more than 5min looking at the presentation recap.
With the Apple Watch, you can just tap that countdown for any workout to bypass it. So you start the workout and then tap the screen during the countdown to start right away. FYI
The communication between diving computer and equipment is using sound/ultrasonic. Radio/Bluetooth doesn't work underwater. So it's not just an easy software update to make it ready for technical. Also the difference between "recreational" and "technical" is a defined regulatory distinction, that's why mentioning it is so important.
This episode was definitely longer, but the reviews from the athletes were very helpful! And I loved the speculation about the future of Apple; it's such a fascinating topic.
Loved the input from ‘recreational’ athletes. It was awe inspiring listening to everything they do. Especially the runner. Real life Forrest Gump! Also, P.S.: You can skip the countdown when you start a workout almost immediately by tapping on the display and it’ll go straight into the workout.
I think one of the things y'all don't realize about Garmins is how cheap they can be. My running watch cost me only $100 but still lasts me a week, has better GPS than any smartwatch I've tried before, and does basic smart watch functions. For $200-300 you can get a fully featured smart watch. The Ultra will not replace most Garmins, Tomtoms, Polars, it just doesn't compete with them.
I have a vivoactive HR that is still going strong since about 2016/2017. Battery lasts all week and does what I want a watch to do. Not to mention, I don't worry about scratching it when doing physical labor like I would an Apple watch.
I have to agree with Andrew. We knew a lot more about the Pixel 5 and 6 prior to their event compared to the Pixel 7 this year. I see you Andrew, I see you lol
As a "recreational" runner, I'll still stick with my Garmin. It just feels way more specialized and has a lot more data that helps me a lot. It also pairs with the Garmin HR monitor to give me super accurate HR monitoring + info about my vertical movement and more accurate cadence measurement.
I do remember an Apple Event failing, Steve Jobs presenting one of the first iPhones (I forgot which), and he was trying to use the internet but had no connection due to the number of users plugged on the Wi-Fi. He had to ask them to turn off Wi-Fi so he could demonstrate what he wanted.
Marques please read up on what the capabilities are of the Garmin watches you are comparing the ultra to before you do a review of it. I.e. the Forerunner 955 or Fenix 7. And/or watch DC rainmakers reviews of them as he does very in depth reviews of all their features. I feel you won't be able to do a great review if you don't understand it's competitors
I work at Verizon and from my experience, everybody either buys the baseline iPhone or the pro max iPhone and sometimes the pro. I think the plus is gonna flop.
Just as an FYI for the countdown on the Apple Watch before starting workout: If you tap the screen once you start the workout it will start immediately, skipping the countdown altogether.
Dynamic island is the front-facing calling card for pro iPhones as is the notch and home button on older models. That’s why little identifying icons use those elements. A blank screen can’t happen as it can be any phone.
I had preordered iphone 14 pro, but I prefer the cameras of the iphone 13 pro. Furthermore, the price increased a lot, so probably I will wait for new pixel cause I liked the pixel 6 pro and the price is much more competitive in Europe. Lets see how it works!
here's an idea... how about letting us hear what the interviewee says, instead of telling us beforehand what they're about to say. Every single answer was given away prior to letting us hear the actual answer in the interview. "He says he likes the action button because his hands get sweaty." Roll tape... "I like the action button since my hands get sweaty when I run.
You can use Apple Music on Android phones so the lossless audio wire thing makes a little sense (I use apple music on my pixel 4a 5G, although I use pixel buds a series)
Don’t take the notes. You can watch it again. I know watching a 1 and half hour event second time is the worst but you’ll have peace of mind during the event.
Unfortunately, the Oceanic app does not display your tank pressure from a tank mounted transmitter. That is a big part of the equation when diving for sport or technical diving.
I can see the price predictions lining up with the $599 for the standard 7 and $799-$849 for the 7 Pro. There was definitely not a $300 difference in last years 6 and 6 Pro phones. We'll have to wait and see what Google has up their sleeve with these phones. We don't know enough to see if it's worth the upgrade for P6 owners. From the pictures the build quality looks better with how the camera surround is better integrated with the phones frame which minimizes or eliminates seam points that exist on the P6 phones.
I have the Suunto and what they didn't mention is that it cost about $150+ to change the battery bc it was to be done under pressure (or voids warranty)
I still dont agree with the apple watch vs garmin, having the fenix 7 X pro solar i wouldnt change it for apple watch anytime soon, its a decent smart watch for what i need, notifications and basic stuff, it has batrery for 30 days, and way way better then it comes to gps battery life, waypoints are on garmin for years now and trackback too, you can also track most health stuff so i dont see the hyoe of this when you already have garming doing the same for a while now, we are also yet to see how strong that glass reqlly is on the AW.
The thing I'm confused is if you have an Apple Watch why do you need an always on display? The Apple Watch has sold really well so a lot of users have one with their iPhone. In such a case, it makes little sense to have an always on display.
The Apple Watch Ultras battery just isnt there for ultra running / long hikes. It states on the website that it tracks less frequent readings for heartrate and GPS....no runner wants that! Also, it doesnt have maps! My Garmin has full maps installed for following courses etc....nearly there Apple :)
So glad I didnt listen to MKBHD, I ended up purchasing the Pixel 6 Pro. Best phone, super fast and smooth. The photos and videos that come out are so impressive and all the smart features. The speech to text is something I cannot live without.
I use my Suunto D6i zulu as an everyday watch lol Air integration is something crucial missing from the apple ultra as a diver that is a deal breaker for me
There are apps that use the camera cutout as a notification light. AOD Notify is one of them. They work ok, putting a ring, or some pattern you set, around that circle. You may have better luck using it with a Rooted Pixel or OP phone than a locked Galaxy or something, but they do exist and do work well. And yea, this is with the screen off.
At 11:45 seriously? Have you even seen the choppy transitions when going in and out of landscape apps? Island doesn’t know what it’s doing. Have you not tried screen recording? Everything is so jitter-ful around the rounded corners
pro tip for the Apple Watch running countdown issue! If you start it and tap it after it’ll stop the countdown and just start. Works at any point during the count down :)
8:29 Couldn't agree more. Always found always-on to be pointless, but god do I miss that notification LED old android use to have. If they let us have this through software I'd be thrilled. Maybe in a few IOS versions...
I wish Apple could figure out a version of AOD "the Apple way" that isn't just dimming the screen. Take advantage of the OLED tech and just have your wallpaper fade away to black leaving a clock and select widgets on.
When you’re in a call with someone you can see in Dynamic island that when you speak your waveform is red and the other person talking their waveform is green. That’s a cool Easter egg I guess!
@5.12 It smartly detects when you are sleeping, or disconnected from Apple Watch, and it will black the screen in those instances, so sleeping will not be an issue.
I think that ultra marathoner is being a little biased and a apple fanboy. Garmin and Suunto are the best known for their precise GPS. Moreover, New Forerunner series and epix in Garmin have dual GPS frequently with forerunner 955 having solar charging and costing way less that Apple Watch Ultra. Besides, all runners need in a watch is precise GPS, longest battery life and other running dynamics. Although I did love the whole loud 86 db siren, GPS waypoint and ofc apple ecosystem for Apple users. Having said that, Garmin are much more made for a long distance runners for now. Apple Watch Ultra is a good start but still needs to come a long way. P.S. I speak for Garmin as I'm a Garmin user, Suunto, Coros are good too.
Super interesting hearing about the apple watch. I would love if you could bring in a similar ultra endurance athlete from the cycling side though, personally I think that these other sports are all easier to replace your device than, for example my Garmin cycling computer. It'd be cool to hear if any pro long distance cyclists could actually see replacing their computer. Similarly, maybe triathletes want this in order to have just one device.
I don’t often disagree with MKBHD but he said the 14 pro max isn’t that much different than an XS max or 11 Pro Max? Even average consumers would notice a big improvement in battery, camera and screen quality between the 14 pro and a phone from 3-4 years ago
I like when David is on the show. He is awesome 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
agreed. genuine, smart, happy dude
I find him cute xD
Yeah. Smart and... beautiful
Indeed. Please, make him a permanent host. And give him a raise.
Yeah he’s the fuckin best
I'm with Andrew. I couldn't care less about an always on display. Always disabled it in my Android days and will be disabling it when my 14 Pro Max gets here. Seeing the time and notifications is what my watch is for or I simply tap the screen to temporarily wake it. It's never been beneficial enough for me to sacrifice the additional battery life.
It’s odd to put just on the Pro line cuz if you’re buying the latest Pro you more than likely already have an Apple Watch
@@cgnomazoid It’s because the non pro iPhones don’t have the display to take advantage of it. I believe the standard 14 can only drop to a minimum frame rate of 10Hz which would obliterate the battery. The new pro model displays can go all the way down to 1Hz.
Samsung has a tap to show AOD, which is the best implementation ever, you tap to see the clock and notifications without getting blinded.
@@FaresDjebbar true
i mean on a oled phone if the aod display is basically just the time + notification icons like samsung or pixel so 95% of the screen is off the battery usuage is like 1% over the entire day so not really a big deal
Great podcast episode, as always! Petition to have David as a full-time member on here :p
@1:01:00 -> When the Apple Watch is counting down "3...2...1", tapping (once) on the screen will skip the countdown and begin the workout. Yes, it's still an additional tap compared to other watches and the Watch Ultra, but we don't necessarily have to wait for 3 seconds before the workout starts 🤷♂
Same, I am surprised he didn't notice that himself if he uses it that often.
5 years and I never knew!! 😂
thank you for this
When Andrew and Marques were talking about the always on display and showing each other the iPhone 14 Pro I would have loved an overhead shot of them, in order to be able to see the screen. Never seen a podcast have that view, but it would be a super sick addition to the production quality and I know you’re always looking for that.
David being on the podcast makes the whole conversation feel really complete. Would love to see him become a permanent member!
nah i disagree
I won't watch the podcast because of Andrew and his 0 IQ comments. It was nice having 3 people on the podcast way more watchable.
@@Cryptum404 if only there were some way you could’ve indicated your disagreement without having to post a comment. Maybe RUclips could add a little button underneath comments that people could click, like a little finger wagging or a stop sign. Call it the disagreement button or something. That way the comments can be reserved for people who intellectually capable of expanding on their opinion.
Great episode. Seems like theres more conversations and feels like a hangout podcast with David
Yessss
If I had a dollar every time Marques said this will be the last time he'll say dynamic island, I'd be a rich man.
@@ReluctantSpirit
You can’t be serious
Isn't his main phone the iPhone pro 13 or 14 🤔?
@@ReluctantSpirit lol. He uses Apple computers for all his editing in the studios (his whole team does), he wears an Apple Watch, has an iPad Pro and always carries an iPhone as well as an android. So yeah, totally an apple hater. Lol
@@ReluctantSpirit b8
IKR! Every video since the launch!
The "mountaineering" guy is actually more of an "enthusiast hiker". When I'm thinking about mountaineering, I think about actual alpinism. That requires skills in rock climbing, ice climbing, dry-tooling, glacier travel, and crevasse rescue. The actual Garmin watch for something like that is more Fenix than Forerunner. I can't see the Apple Watch Ultra replacing this any time soon. Especially with a 60 hr extended battery.
Love how everyone wanted always on display on the iPhone, but now that we have it we turn it off 😂😂😂
Yeah 😂 Oh well..
Well the way they implemented it was classically Apple. I don't really want to see my wallpaper when my phone is off. Just give me time and maybe priority notifications in black and white or something. If I got the 14 Pro, I would most likely turn it off since it's not my cup of tea. But I'm happy with my 12 Mini
Because it sucks
Because it's a bad implimentation
It’s such a bad implementation, I don’t understand why they did it. I think the classic MKBHD argument “they wait but they do it right” doesn’t work here. I think they waited for too long (they implemented OLED displays 5 (!!!) years ago and so they pushed too hard the concept of “we gotta do it differently”. Same with widgets, they’re not useful. They’re just a shortcut to an app that maybe shows an interesting info, but they’re not interactive. They just take more space.
This was by far my favorite Waveform episode so far (funny how I said the same thing for the hot sauce episode). Marques was so funny with some of his nonchalant comments. Andrew was so excited to hear about the hiking experience of the Ultra Watch while David was just being David, haha. Love it!
I love the interview segment with the experts. Hope we see more of this in the future.
only the mountaineer didn't seem as much of an expert and more like an recreational hiker which is fine. What I was wondering if the apple watch will have map data like the Garmin Fenix have. If you are ski touring in the mountains this is the main USP you need.
For scuba diving you missed some major points:
- Oceanic+ requires a subscription 80$/yr
- Garmin has Descent Series for the same price and gas air integration and the scuba diving feature there is properly certified and walled of from the rest of the system, rather than some 3rd party app that may or may not be reliable
Just for the record, new Garmin Fenix from 2022 has dual band GPS, touch screen, many buttons to be able navigate without touch... and still weeks of battery life. Not saying Ultra is bad, on the other hand.... but it should last at least week, then I reconsider.
Also the problem with the "low power modes" means they take less GPS info. If you were on a flat road it wouldn't matter, but running 100 miles over the mountains, the time between those pings can add up and you can end up with inaccurate time and distance metrics.
The diving instructor is only partially correct. We use another type of gas with more oxygen called EANx in recreational diving. Almost all dive computers support this. Most of dive computers in the price range of the ultra also comes with air integration, meaning you can attach a transmitter in to your tank and monitor your gas on your wrist. Another point is that the best dive computers are big (like the Shearwater Perdix) because it caters also to recreational divers diving in cold waters. That crown will be terrible to use with gloves used in diving. There is a watch that already does what the ultra does for diving. The Garmin Descent line is basically a fenix with a dive computer that does air integration as well. More reliable battery performance too. It attaches to most of Garmin's emergency beacon/devices too. I won't worry much about the UI cause most dive computers start the dive the moment you descend. Shearwater does the best UI in dive computers. It's a good first attempt from Apple and I hope it inspires other tech and diving equipment companies to go further.
also oceanic+ requires 80$/yr subscription
but it does do nitrox according to Oceanic.
The really should've gotten a diver that spent more than 5min looking at the presentation recap.
You know it's Friday when Trash Taste and Waveform go live🔥
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With the Apple Watch, you can just tap that countdown for any workout to bypass it. So you start the workout and then tap the screen during the countdown to start right away. FYI
The communication between diving computer and equipment is using sound/ultrasonic. Radio/Bluetooth doesn't work underwater. So it's not just an easy software update to make it ready for technical. Also the difference between "recreational" and "technical" is a defined regulatory distinction, that's why mentioning it is so important.
this was my fav episode so far, more person included, more opinions & more fun.
Really enjoyed the guest interviews. It's nice to see how intense those activities are.
I hope these interviews make it to the ultra review. They were so much more interesting given their insane experience.
This episode was definitely longer, but the reviews from the athletes were very helpful! And I loved the speculation about the future of Apple; it's such a fascinating topic.
Loved the input from ‘recreational’ athletes. It was awe inspiring listening to everything they do. Especially the runner. Real life Forrest Gump!
Also, P.S.: You can skip the countdown when you start a workout almost immediately by tapping on the display and it’ll go straight into the workout.
had my apple watch series 5 for years and just finding this out 😅
I think one of the things y'all don't realize about Garmins is how cheap they can be. My running watch cost me only $100 but still lasts me a week, has better GPS than any smartwatch I've tried before, and does basic smart watch functions. For $200-300 you can get a fully featured smart watch. The Ultra will not replace most Garmins, Tomtoms, Polars, it just doesn't compete with them.
Not to mention the iPhone that is also required and us in Europe are getting bent over in pricing it seems.
Disagree here somewhat the garmin fenix is a similar;sometimes higher, price than the ultra.
I have a vivoactive HR that is still going strong since about 2016/2017. Battery lasts all week and does what I want a watch to do. Not to mention, I don't worry about scratching it when doing physical labor like I would an Apple watch.
yeah people keep overlooking that part...unless you already have one. @@_Makanko_
Even Marques’ whiteboard has a notch 😂
I love these discussions! This was really interesting to get all your thoughts on the new devices.
I believe Marques was spot on with those Pixel price predictions!!
Upset it didn't come up David somehow magically got every prediction correct in the studio reaction video haha
I have to agree with Andrew. We knew a lot more about the Pixel 5 and 6 prior to their event compared to the Pixel 7 this year. I see you Andrew, I see you lol
Yes David I am watching. I’m surprised, I thought my comment was lost in the sea of other comments. Keep up the great work! 👍🏼
We read them all!
As a "recreational" runner, I'll still stick with my Garmin. It just feels way more specialized and has a lot more data that helps me a lot. It also pairs with the Garmin HR monitor to give me super accurate HR monitoring + info about my vertical movement and more accurate cadence measurement.
That 86dB alarm is great for general alarm, e.g. ladies walking alone, too. Apple should add it to every watch.
Someone tell the running guy you can skip the 3,2,1 countdown by just tapping on the screen 😂
I can't believe I've gone all this time without knowing 😂
I feel that people don’t appreciate that there is options. Just be happy that there are options. Don’t just trash it
I like when David is on the show. He is awesome 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
I do remember an Apple Event failing, Steve Jobs presenting one of the first iPhones (I forgot which), and he was trying to use the internet but had no connection due to the number of users plugged on the Wi-Fi. He had to ask them to turn off Wi-Fi so he could demonstrate what he wanted.
I remember that one. Jobs got really irritated because not enough people were following directions.
Omg, I'm falling asleep 😴 💤 😩Have you watched yourselves back . 😩💤😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
After one year, it's so interesting to see how each of them get right and wrong about the new iPhone lol Love it!
Marques please read up on what the capabilities are of the Garmin watches you are comparing the ultra to before you do a review of it. I.e. the Forerunner 955 or Fenix 7. And/or watch DC rainmakers reviews of them as he does very in depth reviews of all their features. I feel you won't be able to do a great review if you don't understand it's competitors
I work at Verizon and from my experience, everybody either buys the baseline iPhone or the pro max iPhone and sometimes the pro. I think the plus is gonna flop.
hope u bring david on more, he’s great!
"It's all coming together" is probably a reference to Matter, which will release in November. Google was heavily involved in the development of it.
“Ascending the mountain”
“And hopefully descending” 😂
You guys make each and everything so nice.Even the small stuffs.
So Marques, did you finally make peace with the Pixel 6 Pro or are there still some issues left?🤔
first waveform episode i've watched and it was so good!
At 18:24 I agree with Andy - they will probably put a massive island on iPhone Pro 😮to differentiate
Is it only me who thinks the hoodie looks like a Marlboro pack? haha
Just as an FYI for the countdown on the Apple Watch before starting workout: If you tap the screen once you start the workout it will start immediately, skipping the countdown altogether.
I like the current Apple events with produced presentations, they are more to the point and efficient use of time.
Dynamic island is the front-facing calling card for pro iPhones as is the notch and home button on older models. That’s why little identifying icons use those elements. A blank screen can’t happen as it can be any phone.
Marques’ workflow for a live Apple event sounds like a joyless nightmare.
Great insights from the longdistane runner, really interesting how small features have a huge impact, wish him the best!
More David on the show please 🤗
David should be a permanent co-host
I had preordered iphone 14 pro, but I prefer the cameras of the iphone 13 pro. Furthermore, the price increased a lot, so probably I will wait for new pixel cause I liked the pixel 6 pro and the price is much more competitive in Europe. Lets see how it works!
Great crew!
20:40 lmaooo Marques hit the hardest subject change I've ever seen in my life 😂🤣😂
'So anyway...'
I really wish I could get an always on display mode for the iPhone 14 Pro where all the pixels except for the clock and maybe the date are shown.
here's an idea... how about letting us hear what the interviewee says, instead of telling us beforehand what they're about to say. Every single answer was given away prior to letting us hear the actual answer in the interview.
"He says he likes the action button because his hands get sweaty."
Roll tape...
"I like the action button since my hands get sweaty when I run.
You can use Apple Music on Android phones so the lossless audio wire thing makes a little sense (I use apple music on my pixel 4a 5G, although I use pixel buds a series)
Don’t take the notes.
You can watch it again.
I know watching a 1 and half hour event second time is the worst but you’ll have peace of mind during the event.
Unfortunately, the Oceanic app does not display your tank pressure from a tank mounted transmitter. That is a big part of the equation when diving for sport or technical diving.
Marques' "Good morning" was so accurate LMAO 43:00
I can see the price predictions lining up with the $599 for the standard 7 and $799-$849 for the 7 Pro. There was definitely not a $300 difference in last years 6 and 6 Pro phones. We'll have to wait and see what Google has up their sleeve with these phones. We don't know enough to see if it's worth the upgrade for P6 owners. From the pictures the build quality looks better with how the camera surround is better integrated with the phones frame which minimizes or eliminates seam points that exist on the P6 phones.
I have the Suunto and what they didn't mention is that it cost about $150+ to change the battery bc it was to be done under pressure (or voids warranty)
Just use a black lock screen wallpaper on pro…always on looks cool
I still dont agree with the apple watch vs garmin, having the fenix 7 X pro solar i wouldnt change it for apple watch anytime soon, its a decent smart watch for what i need, notifications and basic stuff, it has batrery for 30 days, and way way better then it comes to gps battery life, waypoints are on garmin for years now and trackback too, you can also track most health stuff so i dont see the hyoe of this when you already have garming doing the same for a while now, we are also yet to see how strong that glass reqlly is on the AW.
great episode, love the interviews for the apple watch ultra. If the price isnt that high, will get one as well
I would love to see Andrew test drive the ultra for a few hikes over a couple months and review it on here!
Suunto ⌚ watch is made by the same company behind the Oceanic plus app
Yesssiirr let’s gooooo. My favorite part of the week. Up there with HOT D every Sunday.
Pro-sumer is the word we used to use for that in between camera equipment.
The thing I'm confused is if you have an Apple Watch why do you need an always on display? The Apple Watch has sold really well so a lot of users have one with their iPhone. In such a case, it makes little sense to have an always on display.
The Apple Watch Ultras battery just isnt there for ultra running / long hikes. It states on the website that it tracks less frequent readings for heartrate and GPS....no runner wants that! Also, it doesnt have maps! My Garmin has full maps installed for following courses etc....nearly there Apple :)
Love the 3 host's format
So glad I didnt listen to MKBHD, I ended up purchasing the Pixel 6 Pro. Best phone, super fast and smooth. The photos and videos that come out are so impressive and all the smart features. The speech to text is something I cannot live without.
Love David
You can skip the Apple Watch workout timer, just tap it! 😅
It can be more dim and cozy lighting.
And adding an extra tech head is great.
Dynamic Island was kind of already in Samsung phones for year it only takes one more touch on the right side of your edge screen called edge function
I use my Suunto D6i zulu as an everyday watch lol
Air integration is something crucial missing from the apple ultra as a diver that is a deal breaker for me
There are apps that use the camera cutout as a notification light. AOD Notify is one of them. They work ok, putting a ring, or some pattern you set, around that circle. You may have better luck using it with a Rooted Pixel or OP phone than a locked Galaxy or something, but they do exist and do work well. And yea, this is with the screen off.
AOD also seems like it has a pretty high likelihood to cause burn in since the panel is still oled sitting on a pretty much static image
Yes please.. Just an episode for Trivia questions
Keep David on this…🎉
At 11:45 seriously? Have you even seen the choppy transitions when going in and out of landscape apps? Island doesn’t know what it’s doing. Have you not tried screen recording? Everything is so jitter-ful around the rounded corners
pro tip for the Apple Watch running countdown issue! If you start it and tap it after it’ll stop the countdown and just start. Works at any point during the count down :)
LED > AOD
8:29 Couldn't agree more. Always found always-on to be pointless, but god do I miss that notification LED old android use to have. If they let us have this through software I'd be thrilled. Maybe in a few IOS versions...
58:50 wait a minute this is real life Forrest Gump
I wish Apple could figure out a version of AOD "the Apple way" that isn't just dimming the screen. Take advantage of the OLED tech and just have your wallpaper fade away to black leaving a clock and select widgets on.
When you’re in a call with someone you can see in Dynamic island that when you speak your waveform is red and the other person talking their waveform is green. That’s a cool Easter egg I guess!
Was hoping they would mention Jobs’ daughter memeing the iPhone drop.
@5.12 It smartly detects when you are sleeping, or disconnected from Apple Watch, and it will black the screen in those instances, so sleeping will not be an issue.
I think that ultra marathoner is being a little biased and a apple fanboy. Garmin and Suunto are the best known for their precise GPS. Moreover, New Forerunner series and epix in Garmin have dual GPS frequently with forerunner 955 having solar charging and costing way less that Apple Watch Ultra. Besides, all runners need in a watch is precise GPS, longest battery life and other running dynamics. Although I did love the whole loud 86 db siren, GPS waypoint and ofc apple ecosystem for Apple users. Having said that, Garmin are much more made for a long distance runners for now. Apple Watch Ultra is a good start but still needs to come a long way.
P.S. I speak for Garmin as I'm a Garmin user, Suunto, Coros are good too.
Super interesting hearing about the apple watch. I would love if you could bring in a similar ultra endurance athlete from the cycling side though, personally I think that these other sports are all easier to replace your device than, for example my Garmin cycling computer. It'd be cool to hear if any pro long distance cyclists could actually see replacing their computer. Similarly, maybe triathletes want this in order to have just one device.
What tey're telling is, samsung will remove the camera hole and after 3-4 years, apple will release a new iScreen with in-display iCamera
Are these guys also people who work in whatever building that is that Marques' videos are always in? That office space>
we call that the dynamic failure
I don’t often disagree with MKBHD but he said the 14 pro max isn’t that much different than an XS max or 11 Pro Max? Even average consumers would notice a big improvement in battery, camera and screen quality between the 14 pro and a phone from 3-4 years ago