As a Taiwanese, I wouldn't say we beat the U.S. , I don't think most of the Taiwanese people would be this arrogant, the most advanced Semiconductor actually needs the highest tech from many countries in the world to cooperate together, it can't be done without any of them, which includes the U.S., Japan, Netherlands. and many other countries that I didn't mention here. Actually I think the best thing Taiwanese can do is making the process very efficient, and making the most talent engineers doing the simplest matters but with professional attitude, of course you can do it in the states as well, please try to do as many hours of work as we do with not even half of American/European salary.
Taiwan is abundant with world-class high tech quality but cheap labor workers. 🥲 I'm in my 40s, and when I was in junior high, I study about 19 hours every day ( from 7 a.m. to 2 a.m.). Today, over 3 million of Taiwanese people suffer from anxiety, depression, insomnia, and are under medication. Success do come with a heavy price.
You are completely correct, but you Taiwanese have not only made it efficient, but they have become specialists in making the hardest thing to make in the world.
Exactly. PRC is the enemy of Taiwan so whoever wants to export Taiwanese goods to PRC should be tried as traitor. This includes the current president Tsai. I mean traitor Tsai.
That's because the government of the People's Republic of China has not yet liberated Taiwan. China still retains the title of the People's Liberation Army for Taiwan. If there was no Korean War, Taiwan would have been tong'zhi by the government of the People's Republic of China in the 1950s
@@ryanryan5520Try liberating Siberia, Philippines, Japan, North Korea, South Korea, Vietnam and whatever other countries that shares a border with your high and mighty PRC. Weren’t it for Mao’s Great Famine and Cuture Revolution, China would be powerful enough to “liberate “every country on the world. (According to your logic.)
Thank you for this video. Many people talked about Taiwan's semiconductor industry, but you seem to be the only one who tried to find out HOW we got here. I was with ITRI in late '80s, Morris Chang came to Taiwan to lead ITRI two months after I left. (To be more accurate, ITRI has several different research arms under it. ERSO is the one focusing on electronics, software, and semiconductor, and is where I used to work in.) I can attest to many of the things you said, like how companies collaborate with universities, how the internship program had worked (I was one of the interns), and how we "copied" the know-hows from developed countries. You were all right, but I wish you had mentioned the contributions the leadership of Taiwan government made in this remarkable history. Well done! (Special thanks to you for the historical footages. They brought back a lot of memories for me. Taiwan, what a country! How much have we achieved in the past 70 years. We did all this under the constant military threat from a neighboring Goliath, and total annihilation in the international community! Oh, have I mentioned that emiconductors is not the only thing we did? We also successfully transformed into a vibrant democratic country at the same time. How many countries can achieve what we have achieved, especially under the circumstances we're facing! )
I believe we came from the same era. I worked in the civilian sector and benefitted from ITRI support. In fact, ITRI was my company‘s customer such as computers and networking. We have lived through the best era and witnessed Taiwan’s transformation. And we have taken part in it. 😂
@@wtuanmu The world is curious and want to duplicate, the clip is not just for you. You cannot deny it is all truth. Which part is bullshit？Isn’t SMIC also duplicate tsmc foundry model？
@@rueychen1882 All chip design is from US company. We just work for them. US force TSMC to copy one of the foundry over and what happen? It won't work!
We, Taiwanese, didn’t beat USA but cooperated with USA. (precisely with the world) The whole semiconductor industry is a worldwide supply chain, design from US, equipment from Europe, chemicals from Japan. We just take the part of manufacturing.
I think there is a missing part of the story. There are not only semiconductors in Taiwan. There are pc producers, laptops producers and all kinds of the components’ producers in Taiwan. Now there are fabless chip design companies in Taiwan. That is a whole chain, from design to producing.
What is the Taiwan asset in R&D and high quality products is Small mom and Pop companies that are not out to conquer the world they just want to make their customers make money, They dont copy and backdoor, they honor exclusivity and they maintain "Guanxi" relationships with other small companies on Taiwan to form a solid and dependable supply chain for any foreign Brand device maker to rely on. I have worked in both China and Taiwan and the Taiwanese worker attitude is a sharp contrast with the Chinese worker. On a mainland China production line if a worker spots a defective component on the line they will not toss it in a defect bin as the workers attitude is "Not my problem, im just here until a better paying job at another factory is available" and they install the defective part. On Taiwan the employees dont like switching companies, they are the most loyal workers and in the defective component on the line scenario the workers attitude is "I better remove that from the line and put it in the defective bin or else my boss will lose money and the company will be shamed for selling defective goods". The difference is black and white.
@@tracegomez sounds to me that Taiwan adapted themselves to Japan's work ethics and excellence, whereas China's "Cha bu duo" i.e. meh, whatever 🤷♂️ attitude prevails in their work culture 😂. TBH, here in the states, that Cha bu duo attitude is prevalent, too 😂
@@jasontsai9853fo sho you work at TSMC😂😂😂. Brah you called it a “factory” anyone with even a cursory knowledge in the field knows they’re called “fabs”.
We Taiwanese would not beat anyone, all we Taiwanese achievements are doing our best to be crucial part of world supply chain, because we Taiwanese is part of the world😊
Bet yourself in, and try 1.4 billion Chinese people. If your so called democracy ever exists, why everything your leader promised before election, finally got rhetoric lies? In your government, people are arguing and lying with each other, fooling around, and set fire all over the world! Mind your own business, we are belonging to the same family, how’s the heck you doing here?
@@ShirakamiKaiserno, you are Chinese that belong to the ROC, just because you don’t belong to the communist regime doesn’t mean that you can disagree to your Chinese identity!
@@ShirakamiKaiser I am also Taiwanese, and I am also Chinese, I don’t mind if you are same family or not, political is not everything, as we can see all the support from this world is only political, if you really want to support Taiwan then re-establish diplomatic relations with Taiwan now or you just a liar!
@@linlaobei1 Many Taiwanese consider themselves as Taiwanese and Chinese at the same time, and it's quite understandable that people want to be centerist and not aligned to any side, but in my opinion, it's like a chronic disease, that crushes your will to resist over time. I wholeheartedly wish Taiwan can gain a better diplomatic situation in the world, but through compromises over our sovereignty? No. I'd rather not have formal diplomatic relationship with negligible countries, and establish a better informal relationship with major countries like US or Australia. Also, I'm a Taiwanese myself, I don't know why are you accusing me as a Liar.
So true, for a long run under the suppress of China, this tiny island still made it success to catch people’s eyeballs globally with the most competitive high-tech products. Really impressive.
Since "Chip War" began, I have been following up videos talking about Taiwan and semiconductor industry. You are the best with thorough and correct background how Taiwan has got to this position today. And not just focus on one single company, TSMC's successful story. Mr. Chang is a great man, but without the Taiwanese government's vision, and other people in the semiconductor eco-cluster, none of this would happen in Taiwan. I have my hat off to you.
Taiwan chip industry success, it is KMT contribution, nothing to do with DPP, the independentist party, except chip industry, Taiwan is inferior to other Chinese provinces in almost all other high-tech fields,
Is this what everyone is saying? 1: Morris Chang 2: Government incubation policies 3: Fast supply chains from Taiwan's existing infrastructure 4: Deep tech talent pool from Taiwan's culture & education background 5: Efficient global distribution networks These all came together to make TSMC etc possible.
”Secret sauce” of Taiwan semiconductor are decades of knowledge, continuous improvement, know-how & experience that others cannot buy or replicate. It is NOT the building, plant & equipment or else others would have replicated them long ago.
Totally agreed! Let me share an analogy that most people would understand. I can buy an oven of the same make and model used by a world-famous chef. However, I cannot bake award-winning cookies. Why not? That chef has his chef's secret recipes, but I follow a standard cookbook. NO semiconductor manufacturers use the standard processes that come with equipment. This is what differentiates semiconductor manufacturing from other manufacturing such as toys, garments, etc. In fact, the intellectual challenges to come up with these secret recipes are even more daunting than the chip design itself!
When most of the English speaking people thinking about the success of semiconductor industry in Taiwan, you tend to ask what we did right. However, the other side of the story is what the US did wrong, which is almost as important as what we did right here. IMO, the biggest problem of the US semiconductor industry is the Wall St. The investors always asking for fast return and great ROI, which is nothing wrong. However, this kind of mindset doesn't fit well with semiconductor industry. This is a very capital intense, high risk, and highly competitive industry, which is not an attractive option for the Wall St. Intel, Motorola and TI were the leader in the manufacturing technology, but their stockholders don't really care about it, they just want the profit, cutting the cost and even R&D. That's the reason US lost its' leadership on the manufacturing side.
The real reason given by some documentaries as to why TSMC ate the lunches of other semiconductor manufacturers, is that the other big semiconductor players were competing against their own customers: The world had so many small, brilliant chip designers who could not afford their own cutting-edge fab, and who also could not afford to trust Samsung or Intel with their ideas. So TSMC had only to provide a more reliable service to these talents, and the result was to bury its competitors in terms of high quality products. Then, profit!
Very interesting video, good job. But I would like to add a remark. Taiwan economy was already quite good in 80s and 90s, but it’s more laborious orientated industry. Taiwan government was looking for new industry which can help Taiwan to move further. Tech/semiconductor was chosen and the effort was put onto it. Government did play important role to push tech industry to move forward. Education is also very important. There is a big pool of high quality employee in taiwan, it also helps a lot.
Taiwan is not a country, not a sovereign country, not recognized by the United Nations, nor by Americans. Taiwan is a province and autonomous region of China
I am a Taiwanese. Taiwan is isolated from the world, but it still develops to its current height with the help of hardworking people. Taiwan is a friend of the world, contributes to the world, and is a part of world production Taiwan does not belong to China, Taiwan is a free and democratic independent country Russia invades Ukraine, people of all countries are supporting Ukraine, excluding China, North Korea, Iran Support a democratic Taiwan and fight against the evil communist China
We are so alone, but we are also trying to do out best to be seen. Honestly, I feel like we are just trying to do our part in being good international citizens. Such a shame we have to be living next to a bully who is always aiming their missile at us😢
Sorry nobody recognised Taiwan as a country. All countries around the world & all international organisations recogises Taiwan as a part of China. Only 13 small countries representing 0.4% of the world population recognises the Government in Taipei as the legitimate Government of China.
@@LoC28C After Russia invaded Ukraine, the people of the world once again witnessed the evil of the Communist Party The world needs a common enemy to unite congratulations ..China ..you are next
@MaxineWashington Allied soldiers who died in the Korean War XINJIANG Concentration camps for forced ideological reforms Muslims Tibet's fugitive Dalai Lama People who pursue autonomy, freedom and democracy in Hong Kong 1989 June 4th 10,000 Chinese students shot dead o would very very much agree with your treatise
It's not so much about beating the USA as it is outsourcing tech to a country who can do it better. Taiwan has an amazing tech culture that is difficult to replicate elsewhere.
You think USA couldn't have done it at the same level if they needed to? WRONG. US could've done the same level of work but for greater costs. It's all about money.
@@hentype yes they can with little amount and high percentage in fail. Look at Korea, same machines, Taiwan works in high percentage in finish but Korea is not.
@@hentypesemiconductor is a VERY complicated process, 3 thousand process steps, and it takes half year from start to finish. The whole process requires non-stop and disciplined employee to contribute in clean room. Asians are better in this way. Intel is trying very hard to come back to beat tsmc and Samsung. But….it’s hard, it’s simply not western style way of working. US government force tsmc to start a fab in Arizona. tsmc hired some US employee and sent them to Taiwan to work half year. Most of them quit their job after the training. They cannot work in the same way Taiwanese do.
@@hentype The average working hours of Taiwanese is 2000 hours per year, IC packaging and testing margins are even low. How can the United States replicate this slave island?
The funny thing is those universities have been supplying high quality scientists and engineers to make TSMC and other high tech companies successfully completing with world wide competitors. However, in most of the world university ranking those schools in Taiwan cannot get top ranking. One of the reasons is the ranking institute doesn't think there are a lot of alumnis working for TSMC and other high tech companies. That is overlooking on Taiwanese universities.
The university rankings are based on surveys of what university administrators think of each other, as well as how much research journal articles cite each other. This makes it very hard for any universities in the non-English speaking world to break into the rankings, as their published research articles have an up-hill fight to get published in English-language journals.
The key indicators those ranking institutions use includes number of foreign students, number of foreign faculty members, number of international programs, etc. Most taiwan universities still use mandarin as language medium unlike their counterpart in singapore, hk or malaysia. So they don't attract as much foreign students. Personally, I don't look at these ranking institutions in assessing quality education for my kids. I rely on my own research. Having said that, all my 3 kids went and are attending univ in taiwan. 2 in NTU, 1 in NYCU and so far I am quite content with the quality of education they receive along with other extra benefits for being in taiwan, like safe emvironment, good health care system and good value system. Part of me wish this would remain unknown for a little bit longer to avoid over commercialization of education there 🙂
As an university student here in Taiwan. I really don’t think a lot of the universities here can compete with universities from other places of the world
Taiwan was not a poor island at all, actually, by the end of world war II. Under Japanese ruling, Taiwan was one of the most advanced area in Asia. She was industrialized, infrastructure was there. Taiwanese people was one of the best educated in Asia. There is reasons, not out of blue!
It was the Chinese who built the modern Taiwanese tech industry, and they are known in Taiwan as "other provinces man". For example, the founder of [TSMC] was born in Zhejiang, China, while the former director who planned Taiwan's technology industry in the 1980s was from Shandong, China.
@@windcold4532 Yeah, but they all fled China because of Mao's Communism-induced famines and hardships. It's not like China allowed private enterprise and they all thrived with support from the government. Mao's Red Guards would have killed Morris Chang and other pioneers like Kwok Yuan Ho (ATi) and branded them rightists or capitalists, had they remained in China. Both the above pioneers managed to make it to Taiwan, then migrated to the West, got educated and worked there, and gained the knowledge to help TAIWAN (not China) build up its semiconductor industry. So don't try to connect Taiwan's success in semiconductors to China. SMIC had to resort to poaching talent and stealing from TSMC to catch up!
@@windcold4532pitiful effort to link Taiwan's rise to China😂 it was American investment, capital, and technology that set Taiwan on its way to its current dominance in semiconductors.
A Taiwanese living in the US here. It is the ecosystem of small specialized companies that is hard to replicated in other countries, not to mention the cooperative mentality of them who are willing to bend over backward to help their customers succeed. TSMC is just the tip of the iceberg, so to speak. There are numerous critical suppliers to TSMC who together made it successful. Demanding TSMS to set up factory in Arizona only made politicians look good. Does anyone still remember Donal Trump's ribbon cutting ceremony for Foxconn's Wisconsin factory? Has he made America's PC/cell phone great again? (Yes, Foxconn is a Taiwanese company, too, who made your iPhone and Macs.)
So much talk for someone from a country that depends on the American security umbrella. You should watch Taiwanese media excitedly talk about the latest expansion of America's defense agreement with the Philippines and its impact on strengthening Taiwanese security against a potential Mainland Chinese invasion.
Dude, we talking about industry ecosystems not armed politics. If you watch Taiwanese media so much, you would also see reports about how TSMC's factory setup is not doing well in the US and would rather send Taiwanese workers over there than use local talent. In truth, TSMC's US plant investment was more of a political maneuver rather than a business one, there are work cultures that simply don't translate from one country to another. America has a very highly developed defense industry and very wide outreach all over the world, but that does not mean America gets to play white savior to the global chip industry.
@@alquinnpantilagan8293 By the way, US is protecting Taiwan for its own reason too. If China takes over Taiwan, US's position as superpower of the world will be challenged. So US has to help. Of course Taiwan is preparing as well, not completely relying on US.
9:53 UMC has never produced CDs. In the securities industry, I helped UMC raise funds in 1988. I wrote the public prospectus. At that time, UMC only had electronic pens and other products. UMC has never produced products other than semiconductors. UMC's third factory had just been completed then, and funds were tight.
I'm a Taiwanese,for me TSMC is the miracle for Taiwan only. If some countries which want to refer our own experience,they will be failed,because no country 's labours who can like the engineer in Taiwan, working overtime everyday. This is the key factor
Office course.Taiwanese DNA from koxinka the very first “king of taiwan “ his navy in 17th’is invisible . Koxinka is most famous hero in world’s histry,even the navy to make up by pirate. （1661 ）Koxinka’s navy defeated Netherlands navy （the strongest power in then)&he take the dominion. Most people inherited koxinka’s DNA -grit、rigorous、efficiency&courage。 I believe Tsmc will still growing up in next decade.
I believe that's one of the biggest problems Morris Chang faced regards to the Arizona plant, when hiring local Prospects. Very lax work culture, and then you have the trade unions. 🙄🤦♂️
@@benjl7455 Fun fact, the factory fab18 of TSMC that currently produces the world's most advanced 3nm manufacturing process technology is actually located on the historical battlefield of Koxinga and the Dutch East India Company - Tainan.
Moore's law has had a profound impact on the semiconductor industry. As technology iterates, semiconductor performance doubles every two years. This means that companies that do not keep up with the latest technology will fall behind. Once they fall behind, they will lose market share, which will lead to a lack of funding for research and development. This will then lead to further falling behind, and a vicious cycle. As a result, the semiconductor industry is a winner-take-all market. Unless the leader makes a mistake, it is very difficult for others to catch up.
Besides semiconductor industry, Taiwan is also the most democratic country in Asia. Check the democracy index ranking, freedom index, etc. Also it is the only Asian country that legalized same-sex marriage. These features are not less important.
Taiwan is not a country, not a sovereign country, not recognized by the United Nations, nor by Americans. Taiwan is a province and autonomous region of China
@@ryanryan5520 say whatever you want, still cant ignored Taiwan is technically a province under a country called ROC. It is recognized internationally no matter what China said. Chinese always bring the UN thing, so by your logic, PRC is not a country before 1970s? lol
First of all, as a Taiwanese, I am very grateful to you for making this film, so that the world can better understand the story of Taiwan. I want to speak out to the world, and hope that countries can save Taiwan, a small technological island, from falling into war, and avoid repeating the same mistakes after the tragic experience in Ukraine. I would also like to sincerely invite friends from all over the world to come to Taiwan to experience food culture, to let the world know Taiwan better, and to enhance Taiwan's economic, political, and technological status. 🇹🇼❤️🌏🕊️ A letter from Taiwan 🇹🇼
You can say Morris Chang is one of the greatest man of the century. With Taiwan’s government support, the former chairman of TSMC established a manufacturing platform for all the IC design houses, thus they wouldn’t have to invest huge capital on the factory. And with this creating business model, the startup ic companies can compete with the industrial giant like Intel or TI (IDM) which has it’s own fab. Without this, the price of computers could not have kept the same price as 30 years ago, all the electronic devices couldn’t have been so various, and the cyber world definitely wouldn’t has been like it is nowadays. Today, over 60% semiconductors are made in Taiwan, and almost 90% high end semiconductors are made in Taiwan. The PRC ppl and government always talk about the downside of the invasion is to keep nothing but the island land. If the war happens and ends this way, you will pay same price as buying a car for a laptop or cellphone, and you won’t afford any car forever. The whole world includes China will go into this kind of dark age for at least 20 years. Does any country can duplicate Taiwan’s experience? How do you think if I tell you many engineers of TSMC have master or phd degrees, and they all are 24-7 on call ?
Morris was born in China and left for the USA at age 17 as a citizen of Republic of China not a citizen of Republic of Taiwan. He worked for the government of ROC not ROT
@@maotran351 Yes, ROC now means Taiwan, it's quite confusing, i know. In 1949, after beeing defeated by Communists, the KMT troops withdraw from mainland China to Taiwan island, and established Taiwan government. However, they kept using the old country name ROC for dreaming to reclaimed mainland China one day. After decades, as the hope faded, the Taiwan government was unable to change the country name because of the containment of the United States and PRC. The two super powers asked Taiwan to follow "one China policy" and " each China expresses respectively " rules. For US, Taiwan issue is a bargaining chip for China PRC. For PRC, at first, they just thought that Taiwan was an enemy that must be defeated and took over the territory, but now they have strategic purposes for looting semiconductors supplychains. In reality, PRC claiming to REGAIN Taiwan's territory is totally nonsense because PRC government has never ruled Taiwan for a single minutes. Of course, Taiwanese are of Chinese descent and China ruled Taiwan few times thousands or hundred years ago, so Taiwan should be belongs to Chna today?? By this logic, US is belongs to UK, and half Europe is belongs to Mongolia because of Genghis Khan's reign. Morris Chang is a citizen of both ROC(1931-) and US(1964-). Without he and the Taiwan government, the industries could not have be like today.
@@maotran351抱歉老弟，讀一下地理，世界上沒有台灣共和國😂 (There is a Republic of Taiwan in your dream) 中華民國的領土包含台灣地區 但是中國人民共和國不包含台灣地區 沒什麼人承認中國人民共和國擁有台灣地區 (Taiwan Island is not a part of PRC as consensus)
Thank you for creating this video, which provides a perspective I hadn't considered before to depict Taiwan's semiconductor rise. However, I'd like to add something: Taiwan's government almost employs a gamble-like approach, channeling national efforts to develop the semiconductor industry. A significant reason behind this is the pessimistic political situation (we can't sign FTAs or join international organizations with any country). The only international trade organization we've joined is the WTO in the past, and coincidentally, WTO offers almost zero tariffs for semiconductor-related industries (initially intended to encourage countries to develop high-tech industries). This complementary factor is what drives Taiwan's government to wholeheartedly support semiconductor development.
During 1960s every country was poor, China was even much poorer than Taiwan after 12 years inner wars. People in Taiwan were industrious and love- freedom soul made this country become so bright as a superstar in the world. Keep it up Taiwan！
I want to second other peoples' comments below. As a Taiwanese, we never thought we ever beat US in any aspect. Just talking about semiconductor, American/Japan/Dutch machine/materials or EDA tools are the basis of semiconductor manufacturing and design. People just do their expertise and co-work together to enlarge the scale of this industry. Those kinds of wording like who beats who is more political language, not our engineer/scientist language.
Poor? LMAO, Taiwan is RICH. 3 x per Capita earnings as compared to China. Taiwan is rolling in dough and has fantastic governance, open democracy, and a happy society with Universal Healthcare and A+ infrastructure. Whoever titled this video dubbing Taiwan poor is beyond misinformed.
I think the statement of Taiwan being poor is in regards to back when Taiwan was still under martial law, which from a global standpoint was poor, though still richer than mainland China at the time. Its been a few days since I watched the video, but if they still say Taiwan is poor from a modern day point of view, than the video creator is heavily misinformed.
Another Taiwan success reason is its political environment. Government support the companies in many ways to start up but not really controlling them or to tell them what to do. Basically it is following the western free economy model. If it is like China with government wants to control everything, it would never have worked.
Taiwan is not a country, nor is it a country with sovereignty. The United Nations does not recognize it, nor does the United States. Taiwan is a province and an autonomous region of China. If someone thinks Taiwan is a country, please let the United Nations recognize it, let the Americans and the British recognize it, otherwise you are an ostrich with your head buried in the sand
You forgot that not only chips designs are manufactured in avaible processes to all customers but there also many specialized processes co-developed with IDM`s. That reduce to a great extend the capital requirements for the established IDM`s but preserve there circuit AND process knowledge and they can proceed rely on the customer base. I estimate that this is a big part of TSMC now at +14nm. You can guess how many parts of TI or ADI running at TSMC.
Many of these “old time” picture frames were misleading. Those were mostly from 1930-1950, during or post Japanese occupation. I don’t see anything from 1970-1990 or after. I was born in 1970, grew up and lived in Taipei during the Taiwanese booming time. In 1973, the country side like Ping-Tong, Hen-Chung, or eastern side of Taiwan were pretty much like what you see in this film. That was a pollution free time. I went to my grandmother’s house at Dong-Gang(East Port, but in the south west of Taiwan), during the summer time, there were frogs, tadpole in the rice field, and butterflies everywhere. Did you know Taiwan has 400 butterfly species, No.1 of the world? Since KMT came to Taiwan, they made lots major change to support agriculture, just to keep farmers on the field. In the main cities of each county or Taipei, in my memory, was not like what’s showed in this film, either. In the port city, Keelung, 1978, there were 2 main half mile long streets filled with stores with imported Japanese goods, from Hello Kitty to Polo shirts, Japanese silk ties to Japanese lacquer chopsticks, juice, beer, instant noodle, just to name a few. Furthermore, in Taipei, there was also Ching-Kwang market filled with stores selling American imports, like Camay soap, Hershey chocolates, Oreo cookies, American magazines, clothes and umbrella. Outside my home, there were at least 5 jewellery stores, with whole roles of 24k gold chains and Rolex, Rado watches in the display window. The images were passing an idea that Taiwanese was undeveloped with no education, and low living in a remote area in the Pacific Ocean. Yes, 1980-1990 was the golden time with low crime rate. It’s just that the political threat from China has made us so isolated, and even up today, much misleading information is still circulating on the internet.
Taiwan is not a country, nor is it a country with sovereignty. The United Nations does not recognize it, nor does the United States. Taiwan is a province and an autonomous region of China. If someone thinks Taiwan is a country, please let the United Nations recognize it, let the Americans and the British recognize it, otherwise you are an ostrich with your head buried in the sand
As for replicating, TSMC has a supply chain of over 200 companies willing to meet TSMC's emergency needs in a few hours. The agility of Taiwanese companies (and their engineers) is a working culture very hard to replicate in the US and Europe.
For you, yes. Because you're a foreigner so you can get the "western" pay, which is higher than the locals by default. On the other hand, the locals make 3 or 4 times less than what you make. But yeah, Taiwan is still nice.
@@derekhayter4879I assume you just made an assumption about the commentator being a white guy😂 what if he was from Southeast Asia or other parts of the world other than the West? does that fit your criterion of so-called “foreign treatment”??😂
@@joshhsieh1579 you got it right, i’m from Malaysia as we have similar culture and language, salary is okay but not great, enough to live comfortably in Taipei.
Taiwan, an east Asia country, recently has just got my notice, though in east Asia, Taiwan’s territory is not as big as other east Asia countries like China, Korea, Japan, but my friends and church mate told me now they’re the most advanced right now, we’d better get to know this little east asia country more, or probably UK will lose chances to be better
Consider the fact that Taiwan have been ruled by Japan for 50 years and the ROC government for another 50 years before we started the real democracy elections, I would say Taiwanese culture is a combination of Japan, China, Taiwan and the Taiwan indigenous.
Thanks for bring Taiwan story to English world. This is very throughful explaination of Taiwan semiconductor history. As a Taiwanese, I love my country while also want to make frineds with rest of world. This video is now my best recomaneded videos for any one who like to know how Taiwan become tech powerhouse. GJ!
The irony was that when Morris Chang pitched the idea of a pure foundry model, all those people in the semiconductor business laugh at him. Guess who gets the last laugh.
Taiwan started mandatory education for 9 years in 1967. Most of people in Taiwan do read and write by 1900s already. TSMC went on the stock market in 1994.
My brother was one of the earliest employees in TSMC , according what he described, all the college graduates who majored in Computer science, electronic engineering in the early 90 ‘s all invited to TSMC work on establishment with 24/7 , the new graduates dedicated their efforts and energy to TSMC’s good deeds , great appreciation to their dedication
Just like Japanese company, Taiwanese company offers year-end bonuses, one month salary or more, and won't layoff employees in a rush. The boss usually tolerates unfit workers. That creates peace in human relationship avoiding conflict amount people. That helps in many ways.
Well done. What I missed was politics. Up to 1987 it seems it was a full dictatorship. It seems they also changed the political system to be better protected against the communists from China. Then: 'In 1988, Lee Teng-hui became the first president of the Republic of China born in Taiwan and was the first to be directly elected in 1996.'
people like to conveniently forget that the KMT tried to ally with the Germans (The N word) prior to the Sino-Japanese war as a way to fend off the Japanese. Taiwan got their democracy today is through the Taiwanese's own sacrifice and protests against the KMT. It also helps that KMT, by that time, have democratic sentiments.
@@EadricRicmund KMT allied with the Soviets until the beginning of WWII. Actually, during WWII, Japan first got bombed in 1938, it was the coalition of KMT and USSR. The target? Taihoku Airdome. Yes, ROC and the Soviets bombed Taiwan before USA entered the Pacific War in 1940s. A few days after KMT's ROC government closed its consulate in Taihoku/Taipei in 1938, they flew in with fighter jets to drop bombs.
Thank you for the detailed narration on Taiwan’s semiconductor development. And yet, the photos in the background are all outdated ones which seemed to be in my very young age era. I am one of the baby boomers.
4:00 this part is not true. Before WW2, Taiwan already developed manufacturing industry very well in Japanese Time. That's why Taiwan has traditional manufacture skill workers and education. Your information is only based on KMT propaganda. In fact, in Japanese time, there were many skill workers and even helped to build fighter jets during WW2.
Granted of wat the jap did around ww2 Thats like 40 years apart till 80s And with after the great civil war, u gotta have to hand the credits to KMT Still love Taiwan tho, my niece is in the very TSMC 🎉
Wait, how could they build fighter jets in WW2? Jets technology was only just being implemented and in Germany. The Japanese had terrible airplanes in the later years of the war.
Actually you are right and wrong. Right, in that Japan did developed industry in Taiwan. Wrong, in that Taiwan was planned as a light industry base and agricultural base, while heavy industry was focused in Japan and Korea/Manchuria due to mineral resources. So Taiwan wouldn't be able to helped build Jet fighter because Japan never actually started one. A6M Zero is not a jet by the way.
We Taiwanese really do have to thank the glass ceilings at Texas Instruments. If not for those invisible barriers Moriss Chang probably would not have come back to found TSMC.
Taiwan did not beat the US... the US wanted Taiwan to become rich... then we get filled with money. It happened in every country the Trade Giant want to get rich. First it was Japan, then Taiwan, South Korea... then China Not denying that Taiwan and Mr. Chang's brilliant investments, but its a general trend..
The US has betrayed Taiwan twice in the 70' how can the US help Taiwan? It is precisely because the United States failed to suppress Taiwan's technology in 2002 that EUV was successfully developed in Taiwan, and the era of AI came. In 2022, two Japanese companies, Nikon and Cannon, monopolized the world lithography machine market. At that time, ASML was a small company that survived on orders from TSMC. Intel established the EUV LCC Alliance to develop lithography machines using the American dry method to seize the technology of lithography machines in the United States. Major manufacturers such as Motorola, AMD, and IBM were allowed to join the alliance, but TSMC was excluded from participating in the EUV LCC alliance. Subsequently, TSMC cooperated with ASML to use the immersion lithography technology developed by TSMC to conduct research and development at f12b, TSMC's R&D headquarters in Taiwan Hsinchu Science Park. At that time, there were two EUV research and development units in the world, but Intel's EUV LCC alliance failed. TSMC spent 1 million wafers for tests in the F12b plant and finally successfully created EUV for manufacturing advanced chips. The United States did not invest a penny in the R&D stage of modern EUV, nor did any American engineers participate in the research and development. Now, the United States believes that EUV is an American technology and wants to bring advanced technology back to the United States. Immersion lithography technology is TSMC's technology, which has made a significant contribution to the global semiconductor industry and TSMC's advanced manufacturing process, and also allowed TSMC to jump six generations of technology after the 55nm node. For any invention in the world, as long as it contains 1% of American parts, it is regarded as an invention of the United States. The US subsidy for chips also deliberately suppresses TSMC. If the United States does not have Taiwanese technology and Nvidia founded by Taiwanese, can the United States still become a world hegemony?
The fact tends to get lost in the global propaganda wars, but yes, the US is pretty unique in history in the degree to which it tries to make its global hegemony easy on friends and allies by encouraging them to develop and even overtake. US policy since the 70s has spent decades favoring Chinese interests and ignoring violently anti-American propaganda to help the Chinese economy develop, in the hope that they would outgrow their historical xenophobia and instead join in stabilizing the world order. That particular project may have now been put on hold by Xi's unlimited power grab, but the idea was based on previous projects that were spectacularly successful. For example the Marshall Plan and NATO that helped Europe develop and stabilize after WW2, and similar policies in East Asia that helped Japan and the Asian Tigers play their strengths and cut to the front of the global economy. The US does not mind when friends win, even at some cost to itself. Good will can be a good investment. Some superpowers are happy to make the world safe for small countries, because everyone can see the problems with greedy imperialism.
The one-word answer is "focus." Taiwan didn't experience the explosive growth of internet applications and electric car, mostly because of the small market. As a result, the country almost had no choice but to focus on the one thing it does well. In contrast, the Intel in the last decade had been focused on diversity, ESG, climate change, pronouns or whatever. Whatever Intel's focus is now, we can be sure that it's NOT on producing better technology and improving lives of customers. TSMC these days face the same risk. As TSMC expand globally, issues such as American unions come to focus. TSMC management needs to remain focused on its main objective.
Wrong. Taiwan has been more liberal than the US for a while now, don't whine about that here. They work harder, way harder than you, that's why they stand out. The same thing goes for S.Korea except they are more conservative.
the reason for Taiwan does well in hi-tech is very simple, we never want to "BEAT" any other country or any other foreign company, we simply would like to "WORK WITH" them.
Democracy, collaboration and education are the most important factors in Taiwan to develope the high capital intensive industry. We keep open mind to make friends with any nation and people. When war is happening, we protect not only our country, but also worldwide democracy system, worldwide economy system and anyone's wealth.
Guys, do you ever sometimes wonder whether Asia today would be at harmony and peace had the benevolent Nationalist China (ROC 🇹🇼) won the Chinese Civil War? Personally, I think things would at least be much better. If only we had some kind of time machine, brother. :( 1. North Korea would have been quickly destroyed, reuniting all of Korea under a democratic republic. 2. The Indian subcontinent would have been one happy family, and China and India would remain close allies and partners. 3. The Tibetans would be peacefully practicing Buddhism under an elected government. 4. Russia would have been changed into a pro-Western democracy, one way or another. 5. China and America would be the world's foremost superpowers, and best friends together leading the Western and Eastern civilizations, perhaps forever and ever. :) 【 USA🇺🇸 India🇮🇳 Japan🇯🇵, South Korea 🇰🇷, Philippines 🇵🇭 Singapore 🇸🇬, France 🇫🇷, Australia 🇦🇺 Brazil 🇧🇷 Ukraine 🇺🇦 Europe 🇪🇺 Israel 🇮🇱 and China🇹🇼】 The reason ROC Taiwan is the real China 🇹🇼 🇹🇼 🇹🇼 is because they holds the true essence of China and they are not infected by a malicious virus called the Chinese Communist Party. Lets do a comparison of Chinese traditional cultural values of both countries. Communist China (PRC) Taiwan (ROC) 和谐 harmony fail 和諧 harmony pass 仁慈 benevolence fail 仁慈 benevolence pass 公义 righteousness fail 公義 righteousness pass 礼貌 courtesy fail 禮貌 courtesy pass 智慧 wisdom pass 智慧 wisdom pass 诚实 honesty fail 誠實 honesty pass 忠诚 loyalty (only from fear) 忠誠 loyalty pass 孝顺 filial piety pass 孝順 filial piety pass Ask anyone who have dealt with the overseas traveller from both countries. You can blame the CCP for this cultural downfall of 70 years in the making. 【China🇹🇼 China🇹🇼 China🇹🇼 China🇹🇼 China🇹🇼】
Asia will be much more "peaceful" if KMT/ROC is coward, weak, incompetent, if they won the Civil war, they will abandon or lose Xiniang, Tibet, Inner Mongolia, Manchuria, even Yunnan, Hainan and most South China Sea islands, China will be divides, become a vassal like Souht Korea or Japan under US military occupation, China will not be able to compete with US in almost all high-tech fields, such as Aerospace and Electric car... most your arguments seems to be idealist, taking example of North Korea, if NK is destroyed, US force and USSR wille have direct border, they will have new tension and conflict near China's North East, in your scenario, two major opponents of US can become friends with US? so who are their common enemy? the Aliens, as long as China become industrialized, it will surpass US in high-tech fields, it will be considered as a challenge and even a threat, so thr only possibility is China remains poorer and weaker,
Certainly the KMT would have been less of a xenophobic hermit kingdom, yes. But if you ever saw KMT maps in Taiwan even as late as the 90s, they showed many of the same puzzling border claims that Beijing is now using to attack the world: The nine-dash line, the claim over Mongolia, different borders drawn with neighbors in Siberia, Central Asia, Himalayas, and Southeast Asia. Whether or not a KMT China would have started invading everyone as the CCP has, the KMT did at least on paper aspire to recover what they saw as the Manchu Chinese empire's borders.
There’s also a person that invented scanner and he’s from Taiwan. Printer industry (i.e. Hewlett-Packard, Cannon) all knows him. Also, N95 mask was invented by Taiwan person too.
Arizona TSMC is turning out to be a dud. The final assembly of the US made chips will still need to be shipped back to Taiwan for final packaging assembly for the merging of processors with memory, which raises the costs.
8:40 The statement made here is too far off from reality. As far as I know, the literacy rate for the Taiwanese workforce was actually quite high when the island first started investing in the semiconductor industry. (Back in 1910 the island already had a 6-year compulsory education system.)
Be proud of being an ex-employee at tsmc. In the past, none knows what I do in tsmc and I explain to them - Pizza beause few people know what semicondutor or chip it is. INTEL was our goal to exceed it; nowdays, it is.
The success of Taiwan's semiconductors is largely due to the help of the United States, including European precision machines and Japanese raw materials. Many aspects need the help of friends. No matter how hard Taiwan alone is, it is impossible to succeed.
Morris Chang comes from ancient China before communist rule, having not been tainted by the Communist Party. He later went to the United States to study advanced technology. Afterward, he came to Taiwan, bringing with him people who had been ruled by Japan. So, with ancient Chinese culture, American culture, Japanese culture, And Taiwanese culture, he founded TSMC. The most important is INTERGITY. This is something communist Chinese cannot achieve.
what "acient china" ?? chang was born under the rule of generalissimo chiang kai shek, just after the period of warlards, and a foreign rule by manchus, he grew up during war with japan, the republic of china was just as authoritarian and corrupt as the moaist china, his father was the a government official so he was elite, chiang kai shek instituted the logest marshall law in history, that's why taiwan was so poor after the japanese left ... he was able to avoid all that good for him, but nothing to do with "ancient china", in fact, ancient china was one dictator after another, it was rural, it was foolish and backwards
"ancient China" before communist rule? He's still alive you know! He was born in 1931 and grew up during WWII and the Chinese civil war but he's not THAT old!
Taiwan wasn't poor because of marshall law, we were poor because we've just been through World War 2, a Japanese colonization, and were in the midst of a civil war with the Communist Party. @@unsatura
when i went to taiwan in the 80's, its trains were still the old carts left by the japanese, the japanese did most of the infrastructure which the original kmt inherited, they were poorly managed and exploited, the kmt's were not interested in building an advanced competitive taiwan econ, it treated taiwan as a temporary retreat, it was chiang's son which laid the foundation for propelling taiwan towards econ success@@joannachen76
NVIDIA and AMD's CEOs are also Taiwanese Americans. Your pictures are a bit outdated, like by 50-60 years🤣. Taiwan is now ranked the wealthiest country in East Asia based on GDP per capita, surpassing Japan and Korea. It's also voted by expats as the best foreign country to live in. Very modern and convenient at the same time also retains old traditional Asian culture and infrastructure. It's truly a blend of old and new, East and West co-existing in perfect harmony. FYI, The Dutch and Spaniards / Portuguese have been on the island since 1600 and built the oldest forts on the island (Fort Zeelandia, San Domingo), hence the name Ilha Formosa. Taiwan was also colonized by Japan for 50 years, later occupied by Americans after WWII, and of course ties to China spanning all the way back to Ming dynasty (before Manchu invasion of China). It's this kind of rich historical ties that created an island well versed in dealing with diverse business cultures and models around the world. TSMC's first investor was actually Phillips, a Dutch company. ASML, another Dutch company that makes EUV lithography machine is also a long time reliable supplier of TSMC. Without Philips and ASML, there would be no TSMC. That plus American providing IC design know how and Japanese high end chemicals used in chip production.
The Taiwan government only started to engage in the [de-Sinicization] movement after 2000. You can see Taiwanese calling themselves Chinese from a lot of Taiwanese TV dramas and movies in the 90s@@raininthesouth
What de-Sinicization? By that you mean Taiwanese do not identify themselves as citizens of the People's Republic of China? That's because they have NEVER been citizen of that country. The communist Chinese destroyed traditional Han writing system and speak a Manchurian style Han Chinese that's only 200-300 years old. The red guards smashed up Chinese relics and artifacts. That's not called de-Sinicizaton? So who gets to define what's de-Sinicization? The Chinese? If the Taiwanese don't get a say so in defining what's de-Sinicizaton then I guess culturally we must not be Chinese (not YOUR kind of Chinese at least). Fine by us. Before 70 years ago Taiwanese were speaking Japanese on the island. In fact no one on the island EVER spoke Mandarin until the Chinese came in 1949. Most Taiwanese also have Japanese, aborigines ancestry and look distinct from Chinese. We don't hear Japanese complain about de-Japanization of Taiwan.
One of the keypoints is that we have relatively cheap and durable labor...so I don't think TSMC will be very successful in setting up fabs in the United States or Germany.
Taiwan is the name of the country whose territory includes Formosa, Pescadores and Sprately's. THe country does not try to compete with other countries nor does it take away markets from other countries. This country succeeds by renovating, inventing and creating wealth in order to benefit the world because the country has always been excluded from trade pacts and treaties due to China's pressure on all of the two hundred countries in the world. which renders Taiwan's products uncompetitive versus similar products of other countries. That's why Taiwan develops ODM industries that benefit customers instead of replacing them..
the US destroy the Japanese semiconductor industry supremacy, than distribue this industry to South Korea and Taiwan, Taiwan gets many trade privileges from the ECFa agreements with Mainland China, many narratives in Internet about Taiwan are based on Western fantasy, in Republic of China, there are 2 provinces: Taiwan and Fujian, so no country in the World is named Taiwan, if you look a Taiwanese's passeport, it is written Republic of China,
TSMC was thriving after US imposed huge custom tax punishment to Japanese semiconductor products from 1986. When Japan was too powerful in the 80s, it appeared like a threat to US. Taiwan is small, so US felt comfortable with these small Taiwanese companies back then. Also there is a little-known story. Taiwan was forced to make computer chips in late 70s by herself. It all started with UMC, another fab manufacturer predating TSMC. The real reason was to make chips for military missiles, and no country was willing to sell capable computer chips to Taiwan. Capable computer chips were very hard to acquire in the 70s. Morris Chang (founder of TSMC) also worked in UMC at the beginning. (after he was forced to leave TI as a VP due to office politics. So Taiwanese should all thank to TI.)
As a Taiwanese, I wouldn't say we beat the U.S. , I don't think most of the Taiwanese people would be this arrogant, the most advanced Semiconductor actually needs the highest tech from many countries in the world to cooperate together, it can't be done without any of them, which includes the U.S., Japan, Netherlands. and many other countries that I didn't mention here.
Actually I think the best thing Taiwanese can do is making the process very efficient, and making the most talent engineers doing the simplest matters but with professional attitude, of course you can do it in the states as well, please try to do as many hours of work as we do with not even half of American/European salary.
It's all about honesty, open minded, and always making good relationship 😊
Taiwan semiconductor companies pay more than Europe, usually. America is a different story.
Taiwan is abundant with world-class high tech quality but cheap labor workers. 🥲
I'm in my 40s, and when I was in junior high, I study about 19 hours every day ( from 7 a.m. to 2 a.m.).
Today, over 3 million of Taiwanese people suffer from anxiety, depression, insomnia, and are under medication.
Success do come with a heavy price.
Yeah, we do not need to beat any country.
We just want to be a team player and cooperate with other countries in this entire world.
You are completely correct, but you Taiwanese have not only made it efficient, but they have become specialists in making the hardest thing to make in the world.
I've lived in Taiwan for over 10 years. In my opinion, Taiwan is a wonderful place.❤
Taiwan’s success story has nothing to do with the PRC.
Taiwan has never been a part of the PRC for a single day.
Exactly. PRC is the enemy of Taiwan so whoever wants to export Taiwanese goods to PRC should be tried as traitor. This includes the current president Tsai. I mean traitor Tsai.
That's because the government of the People's Republic of China has not yet liberated Taiwan. China still retains the title of the People's Liberation Army for Taiwan. If there was no Korean War, Taiwan would have been tong'zhi by the government of the People's Republic of China in the 1950s
Taiwan doesn’t need to be liberated, thank you very much
@@ryanryan5520Try liberating Siberia, Philippines, Japan, North Korea, South Korea, Vietnam and whatever other countries that shares a border with your high and mighty PRC. Weren’t it for Mao’s Great Famine and Cuture Revolution, China would be powerful enough to “liberate “every country on the world. (According to your logic.)
BTW I feel sad for you for not knowing how to say “Tong’zhi” in English. (Mock) It’s “Rule over”. Mineral person indeed.
Thank you for this video. Many people talked about Taiwan's semiconductor industry, but you seem to be the only one who tried to find out HOW we got here.
I was with ITRI in late '80s, Morris Chang came to Taiwan to lead ITRI two months after I left. (To be more accurate, ITRI has several different research arms under it. ERSO is the one focusing on electronics, software, and semiconductor, and is where I used to work in.)
I can attest to many of the things you said, like how companies collaborate with universities, how the internship program had worked (I was one of the interns), and how we "copied" the know-hows from developed countries. You were all right, but I wish you had mentioned the contributions the leadership of Taiwan government made in this remarkable history.
Well done! (Special thanks to you for the historical footages. They brought back a lot of memories for me. Taiwan, what a country! How much have we achieved in the past 70 years. We did all this under the constant military threat from a neighboring Goliath, and total annihilation in the international community!
Oh, have I mentioned that emiconductors is not the only thing we did? We also successfully transformed into a vibrant democratic country at the same time. How many countries can achieve what we have achieved, especially under the circumstances we're facing! )
Taiwan is so blessed.Thanks God. Praise God.
I believe we came from the same era. I worked in the civilian sector and benefitted from ITRI support. In fact, ITRI was my company‘s customer such as computers and networking. We have lived through the best era and witnessed Taiwan’s transformation. And we have taken part in it. 😂
Please don't give out bullshit like this. We have no wish to beat any one. We can't beat anyone. We just quitely make our own money.
@@wtuanmu The world is curious and want to duplicate, the clip is not just for you. You cannot deny it is all truth. Which part is bullshit？Isn’t SMIC also duplicate tsmc foundry model？
@@rueychen1882 All chip design is from US company. We just work for them. US force TSMC to copy one of the foundry over and what happen? It won't work!
We, Taiwanese, didn’t beat USA but cooperated with USA. (precisely with the world)
The whole semiconductor industry is a worldwide supply chain, design from US, equipment from Europe, chemicals from Japan. We just take the part of manufacturing.
The best comment here. Bravo
The best comment here. Bravo
That’s not true
@@Yalldontknow What is true then?
That's true , we Taiwanese is the part of world supply chain.
I think there is a missing part of the story. There are not only semiconductors in Taiwan. There are pc producers, laptops producers and all kinds of the components’ producers in Taiwan. Now there are fabless chip design companies in Taiwan. That is a whole chain, from design to producing.
That's exactly what Taiwan did.
He did mention that one of the success factors is that there are various components companies in Taiwan.
What is the Taiwan asset in R&D and high quality products is Small mom and Pop companies that are not out to conquer the world they just want to make their customers make money, They dont copy and backdoor, they honor exclusivity and they maintain "Guanxi" relationships with other small companies on Taiwan to form a solid and dependable supply chain for any foreign Brand device maker to rely on.
I have worked in both China and Taiwan and the Taiwanese worker attitude is a sharp contrast with the Chinese worker.
On a mainland China production line if a worker spots a defective component on the line they will not toss it in a defect bin as the workers attitude is "Not my problem, im just here until a better paying job at another factory is available" and they install the defective part.
On Taiwan the employees dont like switching companies, they are the most loyal workers and in the defective component on the line scenario the workers attitude is "I better remove that from the line and put it in the defective bin or else my boss will lose money and the company will be shamed for selling defective goods".
The difference is black and white.
Asus Msi Acer Gigabyte PCs Laptops and Components....FSP power supply ...
HTC vives...And a lot of other brands...
@@tracegomez sounds to me that Taiwan adapted themselves to Japan's work ethics and excellence, whereas China's "Cha bu duo" i.e. meh, whatever 🤷♂️ attitude prevails in their work culture 😂. TBH, here in the states, that Cha bu duo attitude is prevalent, too 😂
TSMC not only has most advanced technology, it’s integrity is also a major success factor.
and also the whole
high-tech cooperate chain
that nobody else
can even achieve
it's wrong. the major success factor is pulling an all-nighter at the factory. I'm a TSMC employee.
@@jasontsai9853fo sho you work at TSMC😂😂😂. Brah you called it a “factory” anyone with even a cursory knowledge in the field knows they’re called “fabs”.
@@jasontsai9853 So true.
Fun fact: The CEOs of Nvidia and AMD are from Taiwan. They're even somewhat related by blood
They're not related by blood
We Taiwanese would not beat anyone, all we Taiwanese achievements are doing our best to be crucial part of world supply chain, because we Taiwanese is part of the world😊
Even the one of the RUclips founder is taiwanese
We support Taiwan freedom and democracy, will support Taiwan maintain its status a a free and democratic country.
Bet yourself in, and try 1.4 billion Chinese people. If your so called democracy ever exists, why everything your leader promised before election, finally got rhetoric lies? In your government, people are arguing and lying with each other, fooling around, and set fire all over the world! Mind your own business, we are belonging to the same family, how’s the heck you doing here?
@@edgyconsulting2106 We don't belong in the same family. I'm a Taiwanese, I don't recognize myself as a Chinese. We are not you.
@@ShirakamiKaiserno, you are Chinese that belong to the ROC, just because you don’t belong to the communist regime doesn’t mean that you can disagree to your Chinese identity!
@@ShirakamiKaiser I am also Taiwanese, and I am also Chinese, I don’t mind if you are same family or not, political is not everything, as we can see all the support from this world is only political, if you really want to support Taiwan then re-establish diplomatic relations with Taiwan now or you just a liar!
@@linlaobei1 Many Taiwanese consider themselves as Taiwanese and Chinese at the same time, and it's quite understandable that people want to be centerist and not aligned to any side, but in my opinion, it's like a chronic disease, that crushes your will to resist over time.
I wholeheartedly wish Taiwan can gain a better diplomatic situation in the world, but through compromises over our sovereignty? No. I'd rather not have formal diplomatic relationship with negligible countries, and establish a better informal relationship with major countries like US or Australia.
Also, I'm a Taiwanese myself, I don't know why are you accusing me as a Liar.
Taiwan is a beautiful, rich and free country.
yes!!! beautiful country
So true, for a long run under the suppress of China, this tiny island still made it success to catch people’s eyeballs globally with the most competitive high-tech products. Really impressive.
Republic of China(Taiwan) is beautiful country
Taiwan, ROC is definitely not free
@@yosoysGive an example why Taiwan is not free?
Since "Chip War" began, I have been following up videos talking about Taiwan and semiconductor industry. You are the best with thorough and correct background how Taiwan has got to this position today. And not just focus on one single company, TSMC's successful story. Mr. Chang is a great man, but without the Taiwanese government's vision, and other people in the semiconductor eco-cluster, none of this would happen in Taiwan. I have my hat off to you.
Taiwan chip industry success, it is KMT contribution, nothing to do with DPP, the independentist party,
except chip industry, Taiwan is inferior to other Chinese provinces in almost all other high-tech fields,
Is this what everyone is saying?
1: Morris Chang
2: Government incubation policies
3: Fast supply chains from Taiwan's existing infrastructure
4: Deep tech talent pool from Taiwan's culture & education background
5: Efficient global distribution networks
These all came together to make TSMC etc possible.
Great summary! I would like to add one more.
6. Integrity, Trustworthy in business.
”Secret sauce” of Taiwan semiconductor are decades of knowledge, continuous improvement, know-how & experience that others cannot buy or replicate. It is NOT the building, plant & equipment or else others would have replicated them long ago.
Totally agreed! Let me share an analogy that most people would understand. I can buy an oven of the same make and model used by a world-famous chef. However, I cannot bake award-winning cookies. Why not? That chef has his chef's secret recipes, but I follow a standard cookbook. NO semiconductor manufacturers use the standard processes that come with equipment. This is what differentiates semiconductor manufacturing from other manufacturing such as toys, garments, etc. In fact, the intellectual challenges to come up with these secret recipes are even more daunting than the chip design itself!
When most of the English speaking people thinking about the success of semiconductor industry in Taiwan, you tend to ask what we did right. However, the other side of the story is what the US did wrong, which is almost as important as what we did right here.
IMO, the biggest problem of the US semiconductor industry is the Wall St. The investors always asking for fast return and great ROI, which is nothing wrong. However, this kind of mindset doesn't fit well with semiconductor industry. This is a very capital intense, high risk, and highly competitive industry, which is not an attractive option for the Wall St. Intel, Motorola and TI were the leader in the manufacturing technology, but their stockholders don't really care about it, they just want the profit, cutting the cost and even R&D. That's the reason US lost its' leadership on the manufacturing side.
Maybe that's why the US still is the biggest semiconductor country.
The real reason given by some documentaries as to why TSMC ate the lunches of other semiconductor manufacturers, is that the other big semiconductor players were competing against their own customers: The world had so many small, brilliant chip designers who could not afford their own cutting-edge fab, and who also could not afford to trust Samsung or Intel with their ideas. So TSMC had only to provide a more reliable service to these talents, and the result was to bury its competitors in terms of high quality products. Then, profit!
Very well said. 👍
You said correctly.
Phillips was one of orginal invsters of TSMC, see what products they offer today? Exactly as what you mentioned.
@@AsusMemopad-us5lk選你正解😊
Very interesting video, good job.
But I would like to add a remark. Taiwan economy was already quite good in 80s and 90s, but it’s more laborious orientated industry. Taiwan government was looking for new industry which can help Taiwan to move further. Tech/semiconductor was chosen and the effort was put onto it. Government did play important role to push tech industry to move forward.
Education is also very important. There is a big pool of high quality employee in taiwan, it also helps a lot.
Just FYI, Taiwan is not merely an island, it is a country.
you are going to give the CCP bots a mental breakdown
The truth is there is no country named Taiwan. Read the Constitution of the Republic of China.
Yes, Taiwan🇹🇼 is a free and democratic country.
Taiwan is not a country, not a sovereign country, not recognized by the United Nations, nor by Americans. Taiwan is a province and autonomous region of China
@@ryanryan5520 " Taiwan is a province and autonomous region of China"? Which "China" you mean? Shina?
Taiwan is a great country with good people and has become one of the most important cores of the world. Long live Taiwan!
I am a Taiwanese.
Taiwan is isolated from the world, but it still develops to its current height with the help of hardworking people.
Taiwan is a friend of the world, contributes to the world, and is a part of world production
Taiwan does not belong to China, Taiwan is a free and democratic independent country
Russia invades Ukraine, people of all countries are supporting Ukraine, excluding China, North Korea, Iran
Support a democratic Taiwan and fight against the evil communist China
We are so alone, but we are also trying to do out best to be seen.
Honestly, I feel like we are just trying to do our part in being good international citizens.
Such a shame we have to be living next to a bully who is always aiming their missile at us😢
Sorry nobody recognised Taiwan as a country. All countries around the world & all international organisations recogises Taiwan as a part of China. Only 13 small countries representing 0.4% of the world population recognises the Government in Taipei as the legitimate Government of China.
@@LoC28C After Russia invaded Ukraine, the people of the world once again witnessed the evil of the Communist Party
The world needs a common enemy to unite
congratulations ..China ..you are next
@MaxineWashington
Allied soldiers who died in the Korean War
XINJIANG Concentration camps for forced ideological reforms Muslims
Tibet's fugitive Dalai Lama People who pursue autonomy, freedom and democracy in Hong Kong
1989 June 4th 10,000 Chinese students shot dead o
would very very much agree with your treatise
@@張榮華-z9o What rubbish are you spewing ? Where did you get such fiction and what are you trying to say ?
It's not so much about beating the USA as it is outsourcing tech to a country who can do it better. Taiwan has an amazing tech culture that is difficult to replicate elsewhere.
You think USA couldn't have done it at the same level if they needed to? WRONG. US could've done the same level of work but for greater costs. It's all about money.
@@hentype yes they can with little amount and high percentage in fail. Look at Korea, same machines, Taiwan works in high percentage in finish but Korea is not.
@@hentypesemiconductor is a VERY complicated process, 3 thousand process steps, and it takes half year from start to finish. The whole process requires non-stop and disciplined employee to contribute in clean room. Asians are better in this way.
Intel is trying very hard to come back to beat tsmc and Samsung. But….it’s hard, it’s simply not western style way of working.
US government force tsmc to start a fab in Arizona. tsmc hired some US employee and sent them to Taiwan to work half year. Most of them quit their job after the training. They cannot work in the same way Taiwanese do.
@@hentype The average working hours of Taiwanese is 2000 hours per year, IC packaging and testing margins are even low. How can the United States replicate this slave island?
That's True@@Cloveri
The funny thing is those universities have been supplying high quality scientists and engineers to make TSMC and other high tech companies successfully completing with world wide competitors. However, in most of the world university ranking those schools in Taiwan cannot get top ranking. One of the reasons is the ranking institute doesn't think there are a lot of alumnis working for TSMC and other high tech companies. That is overlooking on Taiwanese universities.
The university rankings are based on surveys of what university administrators think of each other, as well as how much research journal articles cite each other. This makes it very hard for any universities in the non-English speaking world to break into the rankings, as their published research articles have an up-hill fight to get published in English-language journals.
The key indicators those ranking institutions use includes number of foreign students, number of foreign faculty members, number of international programs, etc. Most taiwan universities still use mandarin as language medium unlike their counterpart in singapore, hk or malaysia. So they don't attract as much foreign students. Personally, I don't look at these ranking institutions in assessing quality education for my kids. I rely on my own research. Having said that, all my 3 kids went and are attending univ in taiwan. 2 in NTU, 1 in NYCU and so far I am quite content with the quality of education they receive along with other extra benefits for being in taiwan, like safe emvironment, good health care system and good value system. Part of me wish this would remain unknown for a little bit longer to avoid over commercialization of education there 🙂
As an university student here in Taiwan. I really don’t think a lot of the universities here can compete with universities from other places of the world
@@JayYang0327 你要将自己当成一个单位 跟世界竞争 若真不行 那就加入台湾的公司团队 学校并不真的重要 而是那颗争世界第一的决心!!
What’s so important about the ranking? If students can get a good education, it’s good enough.
Taiwan was not a poor island at all, actually, by the end of world war II. Under Japanese ruling, Taiwan was one of the most advanced area in Asia. She was industrialized, infrastructure was there. Taiwanese people was one of the best educated in Asia. There is reasons, not out of blue!
Nah. US carpet bombing destroyed a lot of the infrastructure. The people were well educated though.
But colonized by Japan didn't contribute much to our success in semiconductor.
It was the Chinese who built the modern Taiwanese tech industry, and they are known in Taiwan as "other provinces man". For example, the founder of [TSMC] was born in Zhejiang, China, while the former director who planned Taiwan's technology industry in the 1980s was from Shandong, China.
@@windcold4532 Yeah, but they all fled China because of Mao's Communism-induced famines and hardships. It's not like China allowed private enterprise and they all thrived with support from the government. Mao's Red Guards would have killed Morris Chang and other pioneers like Kwok Yuan Ho (ATi) and branded them rightists or capitalists, had they remained in China.
Both the above pioneers managed to make it to Taiwan, then migrated to the West, got educated and worked there, and gained the knowledge to help TAIWAN (not China) build up its semiconductor industry. So don't try to connect Taiwan's success in semiconductors to China. SMIC had to resort to poaching talent and stealing from TSMC to catch up!
@@windcold4532pitiful effort to link Taiwan's rise to China😂 it was American investment, capital, and technology that set Taiwan on its way to its current dominance in semiconductors.
Taiwan did NOT beat USA at all.
We just cooperate well with America, Japan and Nerland.
Taiwan is not beating the United States, but following the United States
I guess you mean Netherlands
Nerdland
A Taiwanese living in the US here. It is the ecosystem of small specialized companies that is hard to replicated in other countries, not to mention the cooperative mentality of them who are willing to bend over backward to help their customers succeed. TSMC is just the tip of the iceberg, so to speak. There are numerous critical suppliers to TSMC who together made it successful. Demanding TSMS to set up factory in Arizona only made politicians look good. Does anyone still remember Donal Trump's ribbon cutting ceremony for Foxconn's Wisconsin factory? Has he made America's PC/cell phone great again? (Yes, Foxconn is a Taiwanese company, too, who made your iPhone and Macs.)
So much talk for someone from a country that depends on the American security umbrella. You should watch Taiwanese media excitedly talk about the latest expansion of America's defense agreement with the Philippines and its impact on strengthening Taiwanese security against a potential Mainland Chinese invasion.
Dude, we talking about industry ecosystems not armed politics. If you watch Taiwanese media so much, you would also see reports about how TSMC's factory setup is not doing well in the US and would rather send Taiwanese workers over there than use local talent. In truth, TSMC's US plant investment was more of a political maneuver rather than a business one, there are work cultures that simply don't translate from one country to another. America has a very highly developed defense industry and very wide outreach all over the world, but that does not mean America gets to play white savior to the global chip industry.
@@alquinnpantilagan8293 By the way, US is protecting Taiwan for its own reason too. If China takes over Taiwan, US's position as superpower of the world will be challenged. So US has to help. Of course Taiwan is preparing as well, not completely relying on US.
9:53 UMC has never produced CDs. In the securities industry, I helped UMC raise funds in 1988. I wrote the public prospectus. At that time, UMC only had electronic pens and other products. UMC has never produced products other than semiconductors. UMC's third factory had just been completed then, and funds were tight.
I guess he means CMC. RiTEK also a major player in CD/DVD industry.
I used to work for UMC(United Microelectronics Corporation), and it has always been a semiconductor company.
Morris Chang is truly a legend!
I'm a Taiwanese,for me TSMC is the miracle for Taiwan only.
If some countries which want to refer our own experience,they will be failed,because no country 's labours who can like the engineer in Taiwan, working overtime everyday.
This is the key factor
Office course.Taiwanese DNA from koxinka the very first “king of taiwan “ his navy in 17th’is invisible .
Koxinka is most famous hero in world’s histry,even the navy to make up by pirate.
（1661 ）Koxinka’s navy defeated Netherlands navy （the strongest power in then)&he take the dominion.
Most people inherited koxinka’s DNA -grit、rigorous、efficiency&courage。
I believe Tsmc will still growing up in next decade.
My dad, a 49 years old engineer, he said he had to work until 5am when he was young.
I believe that's one of the biggest problems Morris Chang faced regards to the Arizona plant, when hiring local Prospects. Very lax work culture, and then you have the trade unions. 🙄🤦♂️
@@benjl7455 Fun fact, the factory fab18 of TSMC that currently produces the world's most advanced 3nm manufacturing process technology is actually located on the historical battlefield of Koxinga and the Dutch East India Company - Tainan.
Well done! How are there not as many followers here as on visual politik?
Moore's law has had a profound impact on the semiconductor industry. As technology iterates, semiconductor performance doubles every two years. This means that companies that do not keep up with the latest technology will fall behind. Once they fall behind, they will lose market share, which will lead to a lack of funding for research and development. This will then lead to further falling behind, and a vicious cycle.
As a result, the semiconductor industry is a winner-take-all market. Unless the leader makes a mistake, it is very difficult for others to catch up.
Well explained and detailed video
Wow! Your video has taught me so much and has made me proud of Taiwan❤❤❤. I am a Taiwanese and I don’t even know that much history as you do!😮
Besides semiconductor industry, Taiwan is also the most democratic country in Asia. Check the democracy index ranking, freedom index, etc. Also it is the only Asian country that legalized same-sex marriage. These features are not less important.
Taiwan is not a country, not a sovereign country, not recognized by the United Nations, nor by Americans. Taiwan is a province and autonomous region of China
@@ryanryan5520 哈哈😏but it is.
@@ryanryan5520 say whatever you want, still cant ignored Taiwan is technically a province under a country called ROC. It is recognized internationally no matter what China said. Chinese always bring the UN thing, so by your logic, PRC is not a country before 1970s? lol
@@ryanryan5520 Taiwan is Taiwan.
haha, but that’s what we done 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
First of all, as a Taiwanese, I am very grateful to you for making this film, so that the world can better understand the story of Taiwan. I want to speak out to the world, and hope that countries can save Taiwan, a small technological island, from falling into war, and avoid repeating the same mistakes after the tragic experience in Ukraine. I would also like to sincerely invite friends from all over the world to come to Taiwan to experience food culture, to let the world know Taiwan better, and to enhance Taiwan's economic, political, and technological status. 🇹🇼❤️🌏🕊️
A letter from Taiwan 🇹🇼
I'm from Taiwan, too.
Thank you for making this and putting your sources. Please add bookmark time stamps on the timeline too! :)
我是台灣人，如果其他國家想複製台積電，首先必須解決勞工問題，不是人數不夠，而是勞工願不願意加班或是長工時，如果這個問題不能解決那其他再好的環境和設備也無法複製台積電
說得沒錯 願意高工時輪班的高學歷人才可不多
雖然會被笑台灣奴隸島 但這無庸置疑是台灣半導體成功的一部分因素
@@mayu-chichi._.什麼X島？沒有聽說過！也不是勞工願不願意，而是勞工們也胸懐大志想學學經營管理法則。畢竟「德州儀器有限公司」是個大廠，張董又是德州儀器公司的副總裁，從他身上可學到很多知識。
@@MayChang-be8ue 你開心就好 我只是表達我的想法
勇於表達意見的你很棒 但強迫別人接受自己的價值觀 大可不必
張忠謀很屌是他的事 他很厲害也不會對你或者一般人的生活有什麼太大影響
每個人提升自己靈魂的品質 過好自己的日子 做好自己份內的事才是最重要的 謝謝指教
台湾真是个了不起的国家
My guy is gonna give the CCP bots a breakdown and your fellow countrymen are gonna flame you but thanks for supporting
You can say Morris Chang is one of the greatest man of the century. With Taiwan’s government support, the former chairman of TSMC established a manufacturing platform for all the IC design houses, thus they wouldn’t have to invest huge capital on the factory. And with this creating business model, the startup ic companies can compete with the industrial giant like Intel or TI (IDM) which has it’s own fab. Without this, the price of computers could not have kept the same price as 30 years ago, all the electronic devices couldn’t have been so various, and the cyber world definitely wouldn’t has been like it is nowadays. Today, over 60% semiconductors are made in Taiwan, and almost 90% high end semiconductors are made in Taiwan. The PRC ppl and government always talk about the downside of the invasion is to keep nothing but the island land. If the war happens and ends this way, you will pay same price as buying a car for a laptop or cellphone, and you won’t afford any car forever. The whole world includes China will go into this kind of dark age for at least 20 years. Does any country can duplicate Taiwan’s experience? How do you think if I tell you many engineers of TSMC have master or phd degrees, and they all are 24-7 on call ?
Morris was born in China and left for the USA at age 17 as a citizen of Republic of China not a citizen of Republic of Taiwan. He worked for the government of ROC not ROT
@@maotran351u dont know what u r talking about, read.
@@maotran351 Yes, ROC now means Taiwan, it's quite confusing, i know. In 1949, after beeing defeated by Communists, the KMT troops withdraw from mainland China to Taiwan island, and established Taiwan government. However, they kept using the old country name ROC for dreaming to reclaimed mainland China one day. After decades, as the hope faded, the Taiwan government was unable to change the country name because of the containment of the United States and PRC. The two super powers asked Taiwan to follow "one China policy" and " each China expresses respectively " rules. For US, Taiwan issue is a bargaining chip for China PRC. For PRC, at first, they just thought that Taiwan was an enemy that must be defeated and took over the territory, but now they have strategic purposes for looting semiconductors supplychains. In reality, PRC claiming to REGAIN Taiwan's territory is totally nonsense because PRC government has never ruled Taiwan for a single minutes. Of course, Taiwanese are of Chinese descent and China ruled Taiwan few times thousands or hundred years ago, so Taiwan should be belongs to Chna today?? By this logic, US is belongs to UK, and half Europe is belongs to Mongolia because of Genghis Khan's reign.
Morris Chang is a citizen of both ROC(1931-) and US(1964-). Without he and the Taiwan government, the industries could not have be like today.
@@maotran351抱歉老弟，讀一下地理，世界上沒有台灣共和國😂 (There is a Republic of Taiwan in your dream)
中華民國的領土包含台灣地區
但是中國人民共和國不包含台灣地區
沒什麼人承認中國人民共和國擁有台灣地區
(Taiwan Island is not a part of PRC as consensus)
Thank you for creating this video, which provides a perspective I hadn't considered before to depict Taiwan's semiconductor rise. However, I'd like to add something: Taiwan's government almost employs a gamble-like approach, channeling national efforts to develop the semiconductor industry.
A significant reason behind this is the pessimistic political situation (we can't sign FTAs or join international organizations with any country). The only international trade organization we've joined is the WTO in the past, and coincidentally, WTO offers almost zero tariffs for semiconductor-related industries (initially intended to encourage countries to develop high-tech industries). This complementary factor is what drives Taiwan's government to wholeheartedly support semiconductor development.
Morris Chang really was quite a visionary of the time
The extension of compulsory education from 6 years to 9 years made a most significant improvement in labor quality in Taiwan during the 70's.
During 1960s every country was poor, China was even much poorer than Taiwan after 12 years inner wars. People in Taiwan were industrious and love- freedom soul made this country become so bright as a superstar in the world. Keep it up Taiwan！
I want to second other peoples' comments below. As a Taiwanese, we never thought we ever beat US in any aspect. Just talking about semiconductor, American/Japan/Dutch machine/materials or EDA tools are the basis of semiconductor manufacturing and design. People just do their expertise and co-work together to enlarge the scale of this industry.
Those kinds of wording like who beats who is more political language, not our engineer/scientist language.
Poor? LMAO, Taiwan is RICH. 3 x per Capita earnings as compared to China. Taiwan is rolling in dough and has fantastic governance, open democracy, and a happy society with Universal Healthcare and A+ infrastructure. Whoever titled this video dubbing Taiwan poor is beyond misinformed.
I think the statement of Taiwan being poor is in regards to back when Taiwan was still under martial law, which from a global standpoint was poor, though still richer than mainland China at the time. Its been a few days since I watched the video, but if they still say Taiwan is poor from a modern day point of view, than the video creator is heavily misinformed.
Thank you for your introduction of Taiwan!!!
Another Taiwan success reason is its political environment. Government support the companies in many ways to start up but not really controlling them or to tell them what to do. Basically it is following the western free economy model. If it is like China with government wants to control everything, it would never have worked.
Taiwan is not a country, nor is it a country with sovereignty. The United Nations does not recognize it, nor does the United States. Taiwan is a province and an autonomous region of China. If someone thinks Taiwan is a country, please let the United Nations recognize it, let the Americans and the British recognize it, otherwise you are an ostrich with your head buried in the sand
One of the key Poi nts.
You forgot that not only chips designs are manufactured in avaible processes to all customers but there also many specialized processes co-developed with IDM`s. That reduce to a great extend the capital requirements for the established IDM`s but preserve there circuit AND process knowledge and they can proceed rely on the customer base. I estimate that this is a big part of TSMC now at +14nm.
You can guess how many parts of TI or ADI running at TSMC.
Many of these “old time” picture frames were misleading. Those were mostly from 1930-1950, during or post Japanese occupation. I don’t see anything from 1970-1990 or after. I was born in 1970, grew up and lived in Taipei during the Taiwanese booming time. In 1973, the country side like Ping-Tong, Hen-Chung, or eastern side of Taiwan were pretty much like what you see in this film. That was a pollution free time. I went to my grandmother’s house at Dong-Gang(East Port, but in the south west of Taiwan), during the summer time, there were frogs, tadpole in the rice field, and butterflies everywhere. Did you know Taiwan has 400 butterfly species, No.1 of the world? Since KMT came to Taiwan, they made lots major change to support agriculture, just to keep farmers on the field. In the main cities of each county or Taipei, in my memory, was not like what’s showed in this film, either. In the port city, Keelung, 1978, there were 2 main half mile long streets filled with stores with imported Japanese goods, from Hello Kitty to Polo shirts, Japanese silk ties to Japanese lacquer chopsticks, juice, beer, instant noodle, just to name a few. Furthermore, in Taipei, there was also Ching-Kwang market filled with stores selling American imports, like Camay soap, Hershey chocolates, Oreo cookies, American magazines, clothes and umbrella. Outside my home, there were at least 5 jewellery stores, with whole roles of 24k gold chains and Rolex, Rado watches in the display window. The images were passing an idea that Taiwanese was undeveloped with no education, and low living in a remote area in the Pacific Ocean. Yes, 1980-1990 was the golden time with low crime rate. It’s just that the political threat from China has made us so isolated, and even up today, much misleading information is still circulating on the internet.
Taiwan is not a country, nor is it a country with sovereignty. The United Nations does not recognize it, nor does the United States. Taiwan is a province and an autonomous region of China. If someone thinks Taiwan is a country, please let the United Nations recognize it, let the Americans and the British recognize it, otherwise you are an ostrich with your head buried in the sand
As for replicating, TSMC has a supply chain of over 200 companies willing to meet TSMC's emergency needs in a few hours. The agility of Taiwanese companies (and their engineers) is a working culture very hard to replicate in the US and Europe.
我是台灣人，謝謝你介紹我們國家，你講得非常詳細！
It's not necessarily to say thank you. Thats siunds humble..Taiwanese need to be more confident....
從外國的角度來看自己的發展歷史，再對照現況，感觸頗多。哲人日已遠，典型在夙昔
Taiwan is the best, I stayed there for 5 years and it's amazing.
For you, yes. Because you're a foreigner so you can get the "western" pay, which is higher than the locals by default.
On the other hand, the locals make 3 or 4 times less than what you make. But yeah, Taiwan is still nice.
@@derekhayter4879 Taiwan’s medical care is the best in the world, the climate is the best, and the computer products are also the best!!
@@derekhayter4879I assume you just made an assumption about the commentator being a white guy😂 what if he was from Southeast Asia or other parts of the world other than the West? does that fit your criterion of so-called “foreign treatment”??😂
@@derekhayter4879 你所謂的工資高三四倍的結論是從何而來......別崩潰了
@@joshhsieh1579 you got it right, i’m from Malaysia as we have similar culture and language, salary is okay but not great, enough to live comfortably in Taipei.
Taiwan, an east Asia country, recently has just got my notice, though in east Asia, Taiwan’s territory is not as big as other east Asia countries like China, Korea, Japan, but my friends and church mate told me now they’re the most advanced right now, we’d better get to know this little east asia country more, or probably UK will lose chances to be better
Taiwan is a combination of Chinese culture and US/Japanese technology.
@@joh1121 indeed
@@joh1121Considering the fact that we were a Japanese colony for half a century, I’d say there’s some Japanese culture mixed in there as well.
@@lialeeCO 啥？日本文化殖民你是说拜鬼那群汉奸执政搞？😂
Consider the fact that Taiwan have been ruled by Japan for 50 years and the ROC government for another 50 years before we started the real democracy elections, I would say Taiwanese culture is a combination of Japan, China, Taiwan and the Taiwan indigenous.
Thanks for bring Taiwan story to English world. This is very throughful explaination of Taiwan semiconductor history. As a Taiwanese, I love my country while also want to make frineds with rest of world. This video is now my best recomaneded videos for any one who like to know how Taiwan become tech powerhouse. GJ!
The irony was that when Morris Chang pitched the idea of a pure foundry model, all those people in the semiconductor business laugh at him. Guess who gets the last laugh.
The best example is when the CEO of AMD said real men have fabs, now AMD doesn't have a fab and it's CEO is a woman.
@@mgronich948 ya sure she identifies as a woman? Ya never know theses days 😛🤭
@@mgronich948and that woman is also from Taiwan
You are so right on this!
臺灣加油喔。👍
Fascinating
Both CEO of NVIDIA and AMD are originally from Taiwan.
the story you mentioned in this video is during right at my generation, but the footage you played was the generation maybe 30 years before me.
THE most important chip producing machine manufacturer in the world is the Dutch ASML which are used by Taiwan itself.
The Dutch make and sale machines used to make chips. Get a grip!
Yes and without these machines from the Dutch, Taiwan would manufacturing bicycles.
True, without rare earth minerals from China, everyone is in big trouble.
@@janetmalcolm3403 everyone sees this coming. Everyone will improvise, adapt and overcome like throughout history.
@@stavrosk.2868lmao😂
Well said.
As a Taiwanese, what you said is quite exact. You must do a lot of efforts. Good.
Great job.
Only, the pictures are not related to the subtitles most of the time.
Taiwan started mandatory education for 9 years in 1967.
Most of people in Taiwan do read and write by 1900s already.
TSMC went on the stock market in 1994.
The children in school were 71% in 1944 in Japan colonial time.
Elderly would read and write in Japanese, not Chinese.
Very well done.
As a Taiwanese thank you for support Taiwan 🇹🇼
My brother was one of the earliest employees in TSMC , according what he described, all the college graduates who majored in Computer science, electronic engineering in the early 90 ‘s all invited to TSMC work on establishment with 24/7 , the new graduates dedicated their efforts and energy to TSMC’s good deeds , great appreciation to their dedication
Just like Japanese company, Taiwanese company offers year-end bonuses, one month salary or more, and won't layoff employees in a rush. The boss usually tolerates unfit workers. That creates peace in human relationship avoiding conflict amount people. That helps in many ways.
85ºC Bakery Cafe - also from Taiwan
Well done.
What I missed was politics.
Up to 1987 it seems it was a full dictatorship. It seems they also changed the political system to be better protected against the communists from China.
Then: 'In 1988, Lee Teng-hui became the first president of the Republic of China born in Taiwan and was the first to be directly elected in 1996.'
LTH was Japanese and USA educated.
Kyoto Imperial University and Cornell University.
He said he was Japanese before he turned 20.
Initially, Taiwan only wanted to make chips for their missile defense systems. It got out of hand.
people like to conveniently forget that the KMT tried to ally with the Germans (The N word) prior to the Sino-Japanese war as a way to fend off the Japanese. Taiwan got their democracy today is through the Taiwanese's own sacrifice and protests against the KMT. It also helps that KMT, by that time, have democratic sentiments.
@@EadricRicmund
KMT allied with the Soviets until the beginning of WWII.
Actually, during WWII, Japan first got bombed in 1938, it was the coalition of KMT and USSR. The target? Taihoku Airdome. Yes, ROC and the Soviets bombed Taiwan before USA entered the Pacific War in 1940s. A few days after KMT's ROC government closed its consulate in Taihoku/Taipei in 1938, they flew in with fighter jets to drop bombs.
Thank you for the detailed narration on Taiwan’s semiconductor development. And yet, the photos in the background are all outdated ones which seemed to be in my very young age era. I am one of the baby boomers.
4:00 this part is not true. Before WW2, Taiwan already developed manufacturing industry very well in Japanese Time. That's why Taiwan has traditional manufacture skill workers and education. Your information is only based on KMT propaganda. In fact, in Japanese time, there were many skill workers and even helped to build fighter jets during WW2.
As a Taiwanese, I agree with this comment.
Granted of wat the jap did around ww2
Thats like 40 years apart till 80s
And with after the great civil war, u gotta have to hand the credits to
KMT
Still love Taiwan tho, my niece is in the very TSMC 🎉
Wait, how could they build fighter jets in WW2? Jets technology was only just being implemented and in Germany. The Japanese had terrible airplanes in the later years of the war.
@@prst99 Mitsubishi A6M Zero
Actually you are right and wrong. Right, in that Japan did developed industry in Taiwan. Wrong, in that Taiwan was planned as a light industry base and agricultural base, while heavy industry was focused in Japan and Korea/Manchuria due to mineral resources. So Taiwan wouldn't be able to helped build Jet fighter because Japan never actually started one. A6M Zero is not a jet by the way.
We Taiwanese really do have to thank the glass ceilings at Texas Instruments. If not for those invisible barriers Moriss Chang probably would not have come back to found TSMC.
Taiwan did not beat the US... the US wanted Taiwan to become rich... then we get filled with money. It happened in every country the Trade Giant want to get rich. First it was Japan, then Taiwan, South Korea... then China
Not denying that Taiwan and Mr. Chang's brilliant investments, but its a general trend..
Its just another naive propaganda video
when the time comes, US will milk those countries, and probably some meat, too.
The US has betrayed Taiwan twice in the 70' how can the US help Taiwan? It is precisely because the United States failed to suppress Taiwan's technology in 2002 that EUV was successfully developed in Taiwan, and the era of AI came. In 2022, two Japanese companies, Nikon and Cannon, monopolized the world lithography machine market. At that time, ASML was a small company that survived on orders from TSMC.
Intel established the EUV LCC Alliance to develop lithography machines using the American dry method to seize the technology of lithography machines in the United States. Major manufacturers such as Motorola, AMD, and IBM were allowed to join the alliance, but TSMC was excluded from participating in the EUV LCC alliance.
Subsequently, TSMC cooperated with ASML to use the immersion lithography technology developed by TSMC to conduct research and development at f12b, TSMC's R&D headquarters in Taiwan Hsinchu Science Park.
At that time, there were two EUV research and development units in the world, but Intel's EUV LCC alliance failed. TSMC spent 1 million wafers for tests in the F12b plant and finally successfully created EUV for manufacturing advanced chips.
The United States did not invest a penny in the R&D stage of modern EUV, nor did any American engineers participate in the research and development. Now, the United States believes that EUV is an American technology and wants to bring advanced technology back to the United States.
Immersion lithography technology is TSMC's technology, which has made a significant contribution to the global semiconductor industry and TSMC's advanced manufacturing process, and also allowed TSMC to jump six generations of technology after the 55nm node.
For any invention in the world, as long as it contains 1% of American parts, it is regarded as an invention of the United States. The US subsidy for chips also deliberately suppresses TSMC. If the United States does not have Taiwanese technology and Nvidia founded by Taiwanese, can the United States still become a world hegemony?
No greater friend, no more terrible foe. Nations should learn to get along with the US because there is a great track record for it.
The fact tends to get lost in the global propaganda wars, but yes, the US is pretty unique in history in the degree to which it tries to make its global hegemony easy on friends and allies by encouraging them to develop and even overtake.
US policy since the 70s has spent decades favoring Chinese interests and ignoring violently anti-American propaganda to help the Chinese economy develop, in the hope that they would outgrow their historical xenophobia and instead join in stabilizing the world order. That particular project may have now been put on hold by Xi's unlimited power grab, but the idea was based on previous projects that were spectacularly successful. For example the Marshall Plan and NATO that helped Europe develop and stabilize after WW2, and similar policies in East Asia that helped Japan and the Asian Tigers play their strengths and cut to the front of the global economy.
The US does not mind when friends win, even at some cost to itself. Good will can be a good investment. Some superpowers are happy to make the world safe for small countries, because everyone can see the problems with greedy imperialism.
謝謝！
Thank you!!! 😊
tiny small island country, but a technology giant in the world!
The world's top technology giants are Japan and Korea, at least in Asia😂
thank you for introducing my country;)
The one-word answer is "focus." Taiwan didn't experience the explosive growth of internet applications and electric car, mostly because of the small market. As a result, the country almost had no choice but to focus on the one thing it does well.
In contrast, the Intel in the last decade had been focused on diversity, ESG, climate change, pronouns or whatever. Whatever Intel's focus is now, we can be sure that it's NOT on producing better technology and improving lives of customers.
TSMC these days face the same risk. As TSMC expand globally, issues such as American unions come to focus. TSMC management needs to remain focused on its main objective.
Wrong. Taiwan has been more liberal than the US for a while now, don't whine about that here. They work harder, way harder than you, that's why they stand out. The same thing goes for S.Korea except they are more conservative.
Agree
the reason for Taiwan does well in hi-tech is very simple, we never want to "BEAT" any other country or any other foreign company, we simply would like to "WORK WITH" them.
Democracy, collaboration and education are the most important factors in Taiwan to develope the high capital intensive industry. We keep open mind to make friends with any nation and people.
When war is happening, we protect not only our country, but also worldwide democracy system, worldwide economy system and anyone's wealth.
As a Taiwanese I would say Taiwan NEVER has ever beat the USA in terms of technology.
NVDA CEO is a Taiwanese American also.
Quick for good 2 in 1,anything we like 👍
Fun fact, both AMD and Nvidia’s CEO are both Taiwanese.
and CEO of Xilinx
Very true, thank you, at age 80, from the video I saw the ox-carte, sugar cane stoke,
labour-manu jobs to today' TSMC etc. My tears just full of eyes!
Hardworking people
確實如此，台灣早期（我童年時期）是依賴農業生產，我家附近的農田面積是所有住家的好幾倍，之後才開始轉型工業，很多家庭主婦開始做一些代工產品（我家就是），而這些東西都是要銷往美國的
Guys, do you ever sometimes wonder whether Asia today would be at harmony and peace had the benevolent Nationalist China (ROC 🇹🇼) won the Chinese Civil War? Personally, I think things would at least be much better. If only we had some kind of time machine, brother. :(
1. North Korea would have been quickly destroyed, reuniting all of Korea under a democratic republic.
2. The Indian subcontinent would have been one happy family, and China and India would remain close allies and partners.
3. The Tibetans would be peacefully practicing Buddhism under an elected government.
4. Russia would have been changed into a pro-Western democracy, one way or another.
5. China and America would be the world's foremost superpowers, and best friends together leading the Western and Eastern civilizations, perhaps forever and ever. :)
【 USA🇺🇸 India🇮🇳 Japan🇯🇵, South Korea 🇰🇷, Philippines 🇵🇭 Singapore 🇸🇬, France 🇫🇷, Australia 🇦🇺 Brazil 🇧🇷 Ukraine 🇺🇦 Europe 🇪🇺 Israel 🇮🇱 and China🇹🇼】
The reason ROC Taiwan is the real China 🇹🇼 🇹🇼 🇹🇼
is because they holds the true essence of China and they are not infected by a malicious virus called the Chinese Communist Party.
Lets do a comparison of Chinese traditional cultural values of both countries.
Communist China (PRC) Taiwan (ROC)
和谐 harmony fail 和諧 harmony pass
仁慈 benevolence fail 仁慈 benevolence pass
公义 righteousness fail 公義 righteousness pass
礼貌 courtesy fail 禮貌 courtesy pass
智慧 wisdom pass 智慧 wisdom pass
诚实 honesty fail 誠實 honesty pass
忠诚 loyalty (only from fear) 忠誠 loyalty pass
孝顺 filial piety pass 孝順 filial piety pass
Ask anyone who have dealt with the overseas traveller from both countries.
You can blame the CCP for this cultural downfall of 70 years in the making.
【China🇹🇼 China🇹🇼 China🇹🇼 China🇹🇼 China🇹🇼】
Asia will be much more "peaceful" if KMT/ROC is coward, weak, incompetent,
if they won the Civil war, they will abandon or lose Xiniang, Tibet, Inner Mongolia, Manchuria, even Yunnan, Hainan and most South China Sea islands,
China will be divides, become a vassal like Souht Korea or Japan under US military occupation,
China will not be able to compete with US in almost all high-tech fields, such as Aerospace and Electric car...
most your arguments seems to be idealist,
taking example of North Korea, if NK is destroyed, US force and USSR wille have direct border, they will have new tension and conflict near China's North East,
in your scenario, two major opponents of US can become friends with US? so who are their common enemy? the Aliens,
as long as China become industrialized, it will surpass US in high-tech fields, it will be considered as a challenge and even a threat, so thr only possibility is China remains poorer and weaker,
Certainly the KMT would have been less of a xenophobic hermit kingdom, yes. But if you ever saw KMT maps in Taiwan even as late as the 90s, they showed many of the same puzzling border claims that Beijing is now using to attack the world: The nine-dash line, the claim over Mongolia, different borders drawn with neighbors in Siberia, Central Asia, Himalayas, and Southeast Asia. Whether or not a KMT China would have started invading everyone as the CCP has, the KMT did at least on paper aspire to recover what they saw as the Manchu Chinese empire's borders.
There’s also a person that invented scanner and he’s from Taiwan. Printer industry (i.e. Hewlett-Packard, Cannon) all knows him. Also, N95 mask was invented by Taiwan person too.
Thank you for letting more people know about Taiwan.
Welcome everyone to travel to Taiwan.
Arizona TSMC is turning out to be a dud. The final assembly of the US made chips will still need to be shipped back to Taiwan for final packaging assembly for the merging of processors with memory, which raises the costs.
8:40 The statement made here is too far off from reality. As far as I know, the literacy rate for the Taiwanese workforce was actually quite high when the island first started investing in the semiconductor industry. (Back in 1910 the island already had a 6-year compulsory education system.)
Be proud of being an ex-employee at tsmc. In the past, none knows what I do in tsmc and I explain to them - Pizza beause few people know what semicondutor or chip it is. INTEL was our goal to exceed it; nowdays, it is.
The success of Taiwan's semiconductors is largely due to the help of the United States, including European precision machines and Japanese raw materials. Many aspects need the help of friends. No matter how hard Taiwan alone is, it is impossible to succeed.
Yes, but for an industry where the same is achieved, it is already king.
Morris Chang comes from ancient China before communist rule, having not been tainted by the Communist Party. He later went to the United States to study advanced technology. Afterward, he came to Taiwan, bringing with him people who had been ruled by Japan. So, with ancient Chinese culture, American culture, Japanese culture, And Taiwanese culture, he founded TSMC. The most important is INTERGITY. This is something communist Chinese cannot achieve.
what "acient china" ?? chang was born under the rule of generalissimo chiang kai shek, just after the period of warlards, and a foreign rule by manchus, he grew up during war with japan, the republic of china was just as authoritarian and corrupt as the moaist china, his father was the a government official so he was elite, chiang kai shek instituted the logest marshall law in history, that's why taiwan was so poor after the japanese left ... he was able to avoid all that good for him, but nothing to do with "ancient china", in fact, ancient china was one dictator after another, it was rural, it was foolish and backwards
"ancient China" before communist rule? He's still alive you know! He was born in 1931 and grew up during WWII and the Chinese civil war but he's not THAT old!
Taiwan wasn't poor because of marshall law, we were poor because we've just been through World War 2, a Japanese colonization, and were in the midst of a civil war with the Communist Party. @@unsatura
when i went to taiwan in the 80's, its trains were still the old carts left by the japanese, the japanese did most of the infrastructure which the original kmt inherited, they were poorly managed and exploited, the kmt's were not interested in building an advanced competitive taiwan econ, it treated taiwan as a temporary retreat, it was chiang's son which laid the foundation for propelling taiwan towards econ success@@joannachen76
NVIDIA and AMD's CEOs are also Taiwanese Americans. Your pictures are a bit outdated, like by 50-60 years🤣. Taiwan is now ranked the wealthiest country in East Asia based on GDP per capita, surpassing Japan and Korea. It's also voted by expats as the best foreign country to live in. Very modern and convenient at the same time also retains old traditional Asian culture and infrastructure. It's truly a blend of old and new, East and West co-existing in perfect harmony. FYI, The Dutch and Spaniards / Portuguese have been on the island since 1600 and built the oldest forts on the island (Fort Zeelandia, San Domingo), hence the name Ilha Formosa. Taiwan was also colonized by Japan for 50 years, later occupied by Americans after WWII, and of course ties to China spanning all the way back to Ming dynasty (before Manchu invasion of China). It's this kind of rich historical ties that created an island well versed in dealing with diverse business cultures and models around the world. TSMC's first investor was actually Phillips, a Dutch company. ASML, another Dutch company that makes EUV lithography machine is also a long time reliable supplier of TSMC. Without Philips and ASML, there would be no TSMC. That plus American providing IC design know how and Japanese high end chemicals used in chip production.
I remember that the two of them kept saying that they were Chinese-Americans in the United States
@@windcold4532 Doubt it. They are native Taiwanese with no family / business ties to China.
The Taiwan government only started to engage in the [de-Sinicization] movement after 2000. You can see Taiwanese calling themselves Chinese from a lot of Taiwanese TV dramas and movies in the 90s@@raininthesouth
What de-Sinicization? By that you mean Taiwanese do not identify themselves as citizens of the People's Republic of China? That's because they have NEVER been citizen of that country. The communist Chinese destroyed traditional Han writing system and speak a Manchurian style Han Chinese that's only 200-300 years old. The red guards smashed up Chinese relics and artifacts. That's not called de-Sinicizaton? So who gets to define what's de-Sinicization? The Chinese? If the Taiwanese don't get a say so in defining what's de-Sinicizaton then I guess culturally we must not be Chinese (not YOUR kind of Chinese at least). Fine by us. Before 70 years ago Taiwanese were speaking Japanese on the island. In fact no one on the island EVER spoke Mandarin until the Chinese came in 1949. Most Taiwanese also have Japanese, aborigines ancestry and look distinct from Chinese. We don't hear Japanese complain about de-Japanization of Taiwan.
Keyboard Scholar ranting disinformation. Guess your ancestor were hybridize by Japs. Lol
One of the keypoints is that we have relatively cheap and durable labor...so I don't think TSMC will be very successful in setting up fabs in the United States or Germany.
Taiwan is the name of the country whose territory includes Formosa, Pescadores and Sprately's. THe country does not try to compete with other countries nor does it take away markets from other countries. This country succeeds by renovating, inventing and creating wealth in order to benefit the world because the country has always been excluded from trade pacts and treaties due to China's pressure on all of the two hundred countries in the world. which renders Taiwan's products uncompetitive versus similar products of other countries. That's why Taiwan develops ODM industries that benefit customers instead of replacing them..
the US destroy the Japanese semiconductor industry supremacy, than distribue this industry to South Korea and Taiwan,
Taiwan gets many trade privileges from the ECFa agreements with Mainland China,
many narratives in Internet about Taiwan are based on Western fantasy,
in Republic of China, there are 2 provinces: Taiwan and Fujian, so no country in the World is named Taiwan,
if you look a Taiwanese's passeport, it is written Republic of China,
The previous generations worked so hard with smartness in doing business entrepreneurs.
I ❤ 🇹🇼
TSMC was thriving after US imposed huge custom tax punishment to Japanese semiconductor products from 1986. When Japan was too powerful in the 80s, it appeared like a threat to US. Taiwan is small, so US felt comfortable with these small Taiwanese companies back then.
Also there is a little-known story. Taiwan was forced to make computer chips in late 70s by herself. It all started with UMC, another fab manufacturer predating TSMC. The real reason was to make chips for military missiles, and no country was willing to sell capable computer chips to Taiwan. Capable computer chips were very hard to acquire in the 70s. Morris Chang (founder of TSMC) also worked in UMC at the beginning. (after he was forced to leave TI as a VP due to office politics. So Taiwanese should all thank to TI.)