What Did Washington Think of King George III?

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  • Опубликовано: 7 июн 2018
  • Did George Washington go from ardent supporter of King George III, to rebel of the crown? Or did Washington always have hard feelings towards the royals? CEO and President Douglas Bradburn talks about Washington's feelings towards the English king as America turned away from the British Empire and fought for their independence.
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  • @babyinuyasha
    @babyinuyasha 6 лет назад +279

    I mean they were first name twins

    • @MsJubjubbird
      @MsJubjubbird 3 года назад +4

      Back in those days the range of names was pretty limited

    • @caprisun4883
      @caprisun4883 3 года назад +4

      Twinzies ✨

    • @BradyPostma
      @BradyPostma 3 года назад +9

      Some critics of George Washington called him King George the First.

    • @historygeekslive8243
      @historygeekslive8243 3 года назад +2

      😅😅

    • @unknown-dq6df
      @unknown-dq6df 3 года назад +4

      BradyPostma those critics didn’t last long

  • @Zack91893
    @Zack91893 3 года назад +50

    I mean King George actually respected Washington after the war. He call Washington a most worthy advisory.

  • @Juulmand1
    @Juulmand1 3 года назад +154

    King George III and George Washington were related. They were both descended from King John. Washington's pedigree is on display in Salisbury Cathedral.

    • @wisemankugelmemicus1701
      @wisemankugelmemicus1701 3 года назад +16

      Not really? King John died in 1216. If you consider that 'related' then you better be lugging around a family tree while scrolling through Tinder. Don't want to bang the descendents of your grandfather from 500 years ago.

    • @Ahnenerbe1944
      @Ahnenerbe1944 3 года назад +15

      I think I read somewhere that almost every person of European lineage no matter nationality is related to Charlemagne. Because it was so long ago family trees become messy and everyone is related to someone when you go that far back.

    • @mayadub2271
      @mayadub2271 2 года назад +2

      Were both Georges cousins?

    • @Juulmand1
      @Juulmand1 2 года назад

      @@mayadub2271 Yes

    • @mayadub2271
      @mayadub2271 2 года назад

      @@Juulmand1 What type of cousins were they?

  • @edwardpate6128
    @edwardpate6128 2 года назад +52

    I find it very ironic that at a personal level Washington and King George seemed to share so many interests. Agriculture, libraries and literature, architecture and design. It would have been ironic if they had ever had the chance to meet in person!

    • @DavidSmith-sb2ix
      @DavidSmith-sb2ix 2 года назад +1

      We might still be singing God Save the Queen.

    • @BoaConstrictor126
      @BoaConstrictor126 2 года назад +2

      Are you sure they didn’t meet in person?

    • @jeanrodriguez2078
      @jeanrodriguez2078 Год назад +2

      @@BoaConstrictor126 Yes, George Washington didn't go to the UK because he did not like it. Also, King Geroge never stepped on USA soil.

    • @dead4785
      @dead4785 Год назад

      It’s because they are the same person . George wanted to try a new political system , and knew he couldn’t do it in the Uk so he staged a revolution for America . And tried “democracy”

    • @jeanrodriguez2078
      @jeanrodriguez2078 Год назад +1

      @@dead4785 interesting theory

  • @imperialguard28
    @imperialguard28 6 лет назад +62

    Reminds me of The George V.S. George (The Revolutionary war seen on both sides) book

    • @kikimora4349
      @kikimora4349 4 года назад +3

      Hello guard

    • @howedaddy6122
      @howedaddy6122 3 года назад +1

      Ha, I remember that book from elementary school!

  • @bradleyparker4035
    @bradleyparker4035 3 года назад +21

    Really Washington did what Cromwell could or would not, he walked away. Not only from the Army career he cherished, but also the presidency. That is EXACTLY why Cromwell failed

    • @BoaConstrictor126
      @BoaConstrictor126 2 года назад +6

      Cromwell failed because he was the very tyrant he claimed to hate. He brutally oppressed the poor in England and of course persecuted English Catholics and wiped out 60% of the Irish population and enslaved a remaining 20% or so for their refusal to abandon the Catholic faith. And while comparisons to Hitler are often bogus what Oliver Cromwell did to the Irish is definitely comparable to what Hitler did to the Jews percentage wise though of course he lacked the technology to kill the Irish as brutally as Hitler killed the Jews. Ironically it was Cromwell who allowed the Jews to return to England after 300 years of exile after his atrocities against the Irish as well as the English Catholics

    • @mattosullivan9687
      @mattosullivan9687 9 месяцев назад

      Well said sir my grandfather rebelled against the British in 1916 and got called a terrorist @@BoaConstrictor126

    • @Fyrdman
      @Fyrdman 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@BoaConstrictor126 The brutality towards the Irish was in response to the Irish/ Cavaliers massacre of protestants in Ireland. Something the Irish always neglect to mention

  • @tparadox88
    @tparadox88 3 года назад +24

    One argument against independence was that maybe, especially since the colonies' charters never mentioned being subject to Parliament, only the King, maybe they could try to convince England that they were under the King's laws and commands but not Parliament's.

  • @landrecce
    @landrecce 2 года назад +8

    That kid seemed so smart, I thought he was the one that was going to teach me!

  • @ericf7063
    @ericf7063 3 года назад +20

    From what I've read, the US and England were trading within several months after the revolution. The rest is history until present times.

    • @lucasbachmann
      @lucasbachmann 2 года назад

      Thanks for the russia history. I Did not know that.

    • @phoenixrose1192
      @phoenixrose1192 2 года назад +4

      @Open Skies The British and the French had beaten the Russians in the Crimean War though.

    • @martinjenkins6467
      @martinjenkins6467 2 года назад

      JFK did well repairing the relationship with McMillan .
      It was a shame IKE took that attitude
      In Suez 56. The USA should have sided with the UK and France over a nationalist arab. They have caused the USA trouble ever since.

  • @sjurjans7137
    @sjurjans7137 3 года назад +7

    Good question from that young student!

  • @ianport2185
    @ianport2185 3 года назад +18

    This is very interesting. If you're born in a country that has a monarch it's likely you'll have an emotional relationship with the king or queen since it's part of your story and upbringing. That's certainly true here in Britain, and I suspect it was true for Washington. It must've been a tough thing to rebel against the Crown, despite the undoubted iniquities imposed in the name of George III and the failure to recognise colonies as fast developing societies. This was true back in Britain itself, at the time a far from democratic country where most lived without a say in how they were governed. Our revolution came gradually and cemented the concept of constitutional monarchy that we have today and reigns in 16 countries around the world.

    • @almacmathain6195
      @almacmathain6195 2 года назад

      Aprodximently 20% of Britain’s are republicans , though this figure has been higher and lower over the years, and is always drowned out by the sycophantic U.K. media.

  • @gray3553
    @gray3553 Год назад +9

    George Washington's ancestral home is Sulgrave Manor, Northamptonshire, England and the house still stands today. Also his statue stands in Trafalgar Square , London. We must have liked him in the end.

    • @JohnnyAngel8
      @JohnnyAngel8 Год назад

      I didn't know about the statue. Interesting.

    • @gray3553
      @gray3553 Год назад +1

      @@JohnnyAngel8 outside the National Gallery, it stands on soil taken from Virginia.

  • @AustonMatthewsFitnessOfficial
    @AustonMatthewsFitnessOfficial 5 лет назад +67

    He wasn't that bad, *BUT HE COMMITTED TREASON!*

    • @leviticuscornwall9631
      @leviticuscornwall9631 4 года назад +1

      Yes.

    • @thewheelchairhistorian3424
      @thewheelchairhistorian3424 3 года назад +2

      @Doug Bevins Do you know what a "joke" is?

    • @digitalnomad9985
      @digitalnomad9985 3 года назад +1

      +Latino De Peru & Brazil
      Yes, that's the way the racket worked until the good guys broke it up.

    • @unknown-dq6df
      @unknown-dq6df 3 года назад

      Doug Bevins I see your every where on civil war videos can you take a joke or are you to insecure about your self you got flex your blown out brain muscle think any harder and your pea brain is going to go boom soon

    • @blitcut9712
      @blitcut9712 3 года назад

      @DEVIL FORREST 95 Which part of the constitution did they betray?

  • @Moka-nh8hg
    @Moka-nh8hg 3 года назад +7

    One of my favorite kings

  • @FaizCaliph
    @FaizCaliph 2 года назад +7

    I like how he says George the third instead of king George.

  • @nmfd72
    @nmfd72 3 года назад +11

    Well the truth of the matter was we were in rebellion, and most colonists were again a war with the mother land, but on the other hand, George III could have intervened and prevented the war had he listened to their grievances and worked out some kind of a comprise. The rest as they say is "History".

    • @Fyrdman
      @Fyrdman 9 месяцев назад

      If he 'intervened' that would have meant he would have undermined his constituional powers against Parliament - making him an actual tyrant. It's pecuiliar how the word 'tyrant' gets thrown around when it suits someones agenda.

  • @vlogswithcass84
    @vlogswithcass84 5 лет назад +37

    I’m in fourth grade and I’m learning this,the sons of liberty dumped the tea 🍵

    • @keenanboyd5972
      @keenanboyd5972 4 года назад +4

      History is a lie do your own research. Your teacher is told to teach you a lie

    • @brandonwainscott7491
      @brandonwainscott7491 3 года назад +2

      They do lie and twist truth. Did you know our Founding Fathers did not want a democracy, but a republic? They hated the idea of democracy. The most you will learn is that originally the President was elected by the Senate, not the people. They founded a republic that quickly became a democracy. There was a man from France who visited America in the 1800s. He said that Americans are in love with democracy. He said that is would be the cause of America's destruction. Look at America today. Maybe you are too young to see it. You will see how right the man was by the time you are in high school or college...and this has been going on I am going to say since 1960. They are going to tell you this guy named Richard Nixon was bad. It's a lie. It's a guy named Bill Clinton...George W
      Bush...sorry, forgot you are a kid for a minute, but Nixon was a great president that our presidents could never compare to. They are not going to give you the big picture is the point. Dig deeper. There was a lot of integrity in Richard Nixon actually...but no school textbook will tell you that.

    • @lisareed5669
      @lisareed5669 3 года назад +1

      And pretended it was natives. So, yeah. Racists.

    • @DiviAugusti
      @DiviAugusti 3 года назад +17

      The next lesson: Take comment section history lessons with a lot of salt.

    • @unknown-dq6df
      @unknown-dq6df 3 года назад +1

      Lisa Reed no the British had allies with some tribes they did that to look like a inside job

  • @trojanette8345
    @trojanette8345 5 лет назад +18

    (Adult) Question from a teacher: I understand that several years back a descendant of, Mr. Marie-Josef Roch Gilbert, better know to legions of school children as the, Marquis de Lafayette, came to America to sell (AT AUCTION -- argh!!!) a pendent given to him by, George Washington. My question is why did the MVE not try and purchase the heirloom / precious artifact given to the Marquis by GW? More to the point was it not offered to The Estate? It would seem to me that giving something back to George's family, relatives or the Foundation would have been the most prudent thing to do. Any thoughts on the matter.

  • @MrTCHOSS
    @MrTCHOSS 3 года назад +10

    But what did George Washington think of The Beatles?

  • @drake8065
    @drake8065 6 лет назад +20

    another great video, well stated.

  • @robertisham5279
    @robertisham5279 3 года назад +46

    God bless George Washington

  • @johnnydavis5896
    @johnnydavis5896 2 года назад +3

    The loyalty of the colonies may them to initially blame the Parliament only for the taxes and early issues. However, the negative view of King began not with the Declaration but with his illegal attempts to suppress the opposition to the taxes which climaxed with his illegal use of the British military to attack the colonies. Fighting went on for over a year and the King refused to negotiate which lead to the Declaration.

  • @IanP1963
    @IanP1963 3 года назад +6

    There's a book I read ages ago called THE HESSIAN by the author of Spartacus Howard Fast - excellent book !!

  • @StephEWaterstram
    @StephEWaterstram 5 лет назад +6

    They were Both Proud Farmers and would come off as Hicks to the Modern Metropolitan! My Kudos IS to HM D.G.R. GEORGE III.

  • @archangecamilien1879
    @archangecamilien1879 3 года назад +6

    Before watching the video, haha...I recently wondered if his parents named him George after the monarchs in England...at any rate, I would expect he didn't hate English things before the war started...according to a documentary I recently watched, he supposedly always wanted to dress in the latest fashion from London, or something...

  • @themadlad8540
    @themadlad8540 4 года назад +5

    That is a good question

  • @Gary-fp3gk
    @Gary-fp3gk 2 года назад

    I have no words

  • @masonmckinney8003
    @masonmckinney8003 3 года назад +13

    His Majesty King George III was a wonderful king, God save King George🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

    • @historygeekslive8243
      @historygeekslive8243 3 года назад +1

      😅😅

    • @tylerwest2449
      @tylerwest2449 3 года назад +2

      He was an okay king. Not the best, but not the worst (his son probably takes that title).

    • @masonmckinney8003
      @masonmckinney8003 3 года назад

      @@tylerwest2449 yes, George IV was a good King as well, but no matter George III was as well a good King who did good deeds as well🇬🇧

    • @royalteluis623
      @royalteluis623 3 года назад +2

      “The mad king “

    • @firemangan2731
      @firemangan2731 3 года назад +1

      Well... I dunno if the rest would say that about his illness

  • @vice4134
    @vice4134 2 года назад +1

    That's the best way to approach politically.

  • @jodybranson925
    @jodybranson925 Год назад +1

    Many American colonists saw themselves as British subjects who's rights were undermine by parliament

    • @edwardcricchio6106
      @edwardcricchio6106 10 месяцев назад

      The Colonists were split pretty evenly. 1/3 were patriots, 1/3 were Tories and 1/3 were neutral. So if you thin k about it 2/3 of the Colonists weren't really hellbent on independence. It was the rich Southern Planters and the wealthy New England merchants who pushed the Colonies into the Revolution. The monied people of any society usually have the power to do so.

  • @timmo491
    @timmo491 3 года назад +4

    No. Although he was English by family and served as a captain in the British military, he was disaffected as a colonist through not being able to break into the top London echelon of society even though he was an established and fairly wealthy landowner. Similarly, even Benjamin Franklin after the outbreak of hostilities, lodged his private papers in London on the basis that things might not turn out well.

    • @timmo491
      @timmo491 Год назад

      @@mementomori1022 sorry to burst your bubble Washington joined the British Army in 1752 and served in the British provincial militia until 1758.

    • @timmo491
      @timmo491 Год назад

      @@mementomori1022 its not an argument. Its a fact. Sorry if you don't like it.

    • @timmo491
      @timmo491 Год назад

      @@mementomori1022I think the smart a×× is you lol. if you're making a distinction between the British Army with British Provincial Militia the clue is the word British - ie the colonial equivalent. Sorry thats upsetting you. He wasn't much good frankly that was one of the thibgs that bugged him (apart from the fact he was an avowed slaver who refused to free his slaves even on his deathbead). Furthermore, if it hadn't been for the French whom the Brits wholly defeated everywhere else on the planet at the same time, then there wouldn't have been any 'independence'. Hence burning the Whitehouse to the ground embarrassingly unopposed at the conclusion of the war of 1812 while uour President who started the hostilities ran away, and the four failed attempts by the US to invade the British territories in Canada. Stick to the facts they work better Walter.

  • @joehackney1376
    @joehackney1376 Год назад

    King George was seen as the enemy in early 1776 when his opening speech to Parlaiment was published in America and Payne's Common Sense came out at about the same time. Without those two things, we would never have had the Declaration of Independance.

  • @christopherdenniston9798
    @christopherdenniston9798 3 года назад +7

    America was always going to outgrow British (i.e. Australia, Canada, New Zealand) But a minority of agitators, mainlybin new England, speeded up the process, largely for selfish reasons & it turned into a moral crusade for 'liberty' most people in the 13 colonies either supported the crown or were neutral, outlying bullets tend to polarise opinion

  • @InfinitePlain
    @InfinitePlain Месяц назад

    Curious how both Georges look exactly the same…

  • @haythere5805
    @haythere5805 3 года назад +6

    “i believe this revolution is a attempt to separate the british people” - King George III. Oh how he was right

  • @rationalconservative386
    @rationalconservative386 3 года назад +1

    Wrong, the King was looked down upon by the Congress after The First Congress sent a letter to the King known as the "Olive Branch Petition". When the response returned saying they are rebels, among other things, then the King is portrayed a tyrant. This was all in 1775.

    • @zacharyhutchison9687
      @zacharyhutchison9687 3 года назад +1

      “Portrayed” It was only for morale towards the revolution for the citizens. Not Washington himself.

  • @richpontone1
    @richpontone1 9 месяцев назад

    I believe that when General George Washington voluntarily gave up Command of his Army after some of his Officers demanded that he declare himself Dictator, King George, when informed of this, said, “If this is True, then General Washington should be considered the Greatest Man living”.

  • @ericfunderburgh6080
    @ericfunderburgh6080 3 года назад

    I forgot I went here

  • @GeneralGouda
    @GeneralGouda Год назад

    The English on the other hand, viewed George as an absolute traitor. Even though George was never a fan of British control and was openly vocal about it.

  • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723

    Technically speaking America did challenge England for its independence which can be interpreted as insurrection/rebellion, but the main cause of the American Revolutionary War was a combination of land reform bills & trade laws passed by the English Parlament who were,.....well a hodgepodge of old cooks and the rest boiled over,

  • @emilyloisnewkirk
    @emilyloisnewkirk 2 года назад +1

    This guy said Washington parcipated in the even when King George iii was put into power. He said he would go and toast the king like his other subjects. Now Washington may have celebrated but he and the King never actually met. This video is misleading in that area.

  • @mateotate1163
    @mateotate1163 Год назад +1

    It's the same person

  • @itzy4221
    @itzy4221 3 года назад

    He fought against sooooooo.

  • @annm.7176
    @annm.7176 2 года назад

    I doubt that but George Washington came from southgrove Manor and he had real ancestors and relatives.

  • @Stuff_centeral
    @Stuff_centeral 2 года назад

    Hello

  • @Luthium-hh4ok
    @Luthium-hh4ok 2 года назад

    My real name is Vernon lol

  • @jpdeshaies8592
    @jpdeshaies8592 2 года назад

    You guys still have good relations with them after all that guys???

  • @Gamers6325
    @Gamers6325 Год назад

    If you wanna know, king George III illness is still unknown, people give theories of disorders tho.

  • @advanceaustralia386
    @advanceaustralia386 11 месяцев назад

    Washington swore an oath of allegiance to the King.

  • @NeTxGrl
    @NeTxGrl Год назад

    Our George > than their George.

    • @dead4785
      @dead4785 Год назад

      There’s no difference

  • @edwardbeaty8899
    @edwardbeaty8899 3 года назад +2

    The only conversation between George Washington and King George 3rd:
    Washington: You're crazy! A total lunatic!
    George 3rd: I want a second opinion!
    Washington: Fine! You're ugly too!

  • @johnbaldock6353
    @johnbaldock6353 3 года назад +2

    What did George III think of Washington owning SLAVES??😱

    • @phillgreenland2390
      @phillgreenland2390 3 года назад +6

      john Baldock Probably didn’t think about it at all. George III was in the pro-slavery camp.

    • @orangepekoe5243
      @orangepekoe5243 3 года назад +2

      Well he would see it has a normal thing of the colonies to have however he may have detested it seeing that Britain was moving away from slavery.

    • @tetsujin_144
      @tetsujin_144 3 года назад +4

      George III (and Britain) profited from slavery in the colonies. They could denounce it all they liked but at the end of the day they were happy when the colonies were profitable.

    • @tylerwest2449
      @tylerwest2449 3 года назад +2

      I do not know what King George III personally thought of slavery, but being allowed to own slaves in America was one of the British criticisms of the Declaration of Independence. They thought it hypocritical to own slaves but say all men created equal.

    • @lordjazoijua94
      @lordjazoijua94 Год назад

      @@phillgreenland2390 George III was in the Anti-slavery camp.

  • @dead4785
    @dead4785 Год назад +1

    Guys wake up .. they are the SAME person lol

  • @jpdeshaies8592
    @jpdeshaies8592 2 года назад

    See it is still the same lol!!This is why we builded all of that...These guys are toying with civilians now....

  • @anglo-saxonking1729
    @anglo-saxonking1729 2 года назад

    Let's go Brandon

  • @derlenx1097
    @derlenx1097 3 года назад +1

    Introducing kids to political segregation at a tender age.

  • @dennisbeers
    @dennisbeers 6 лет назад +9

    George III was a nut!

    • @AustonMatthewsFitnessOfficial
      @AustonMatthewsFitnessOfficial 5 лет назад +5

      No

    • @lillithwatson1988
      @lillithwatson1988 5 лет назад +2

      @@AustonMatthewsFitnessOfficial You kinda are

    • @edmenjoyer1039
      @edmenjoyer1039 5 лет назад +6

      But... King George III was actually a really smart person that made England flourish..? *????*

    • @1978rharris
      @1978rharris 3 года назад +9

      King George III was exceptionally intelligent, but was plagued with mental and physical health issues. If that’s what you mean by calling him a “nut” then I guess you’re right. If you meant it in the derogatory fashion then you may want to learn a few things about him and his conditions. You might be a little more sympathetic.

  • @MrLinkiscute
    @MrLinkiscute Год назад

    They were the same person. Look at the resemblence. This is how they roll. Enjoy the circus.

  • @OriginialBIOI1
    @OriginialBIOI1 5 месяцев назад

    Hehe.

  • @derickbervin5235
    @derickbervin5235 2 года назад

    First even nomber

  • @derickbervin5235
    @derickbervin5235 2 года назад

    I know I wasn't gaven a god's dam's less...

  • @tiffanyi5645
    @tiffanyi5645 3 года назад +5

    He didn’t free the Black Americans he held captive as slaves though....that should always be a footnote when discussing George Washington especially in this context where his opinions of a King, who he may have viewed as a tyrant at one point, are being analyzed.

    • @Cheder1836
      @Cheder1836 2 года назад

      Educate yourself. He actually did fix it so that his slaves would be freed and they couldn't legally just free slaves. Keep crying, tho.

    • @tiffanyi5645
      @tiffanyi5645 2 года назад

      “Fixed it” is a stretch….he held Black Americans as captives until he died and only then did he free his captives…but he made sure to benefit from their enslavement throughout his slave holding life. And I’m. It crying I’m stating FACTS…maybe you need to educate yourself

    • @michaelbarry1651
      @michaelbarry1651 Год назад

      The status of slaves was definitely a live issue in the 1770s, not something that unexpectedly popped up in the 1850s. Witness the appalling 3/5ths compromise in the Constitution, which cemented slavery into US society, and into new Slave States for 3 generations.
      George III was conservative but an excellent king until he fell under the genetic disease porphyria. The hatchet job done on him and still parroted by vengeful Americans, is shameful.

    • @michaelbarry1651
      @michaelbarry1651 Год назад +1

      @@Cheder1836 Who's crying? You're the one who kicked off with infantile insults. You're a big cheese, eh Cheddar? See what I did there?

  • @markherron1407
    @markherron1407 Год назад +2

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  • @kinggeorgeiii7119
    @kinggeorgeiii7119 3 года назад +4

    Lies

    • @Arijitkanjilal000000
      @Arijitkanjilal000000 3 года назад

      Oh how come, love you, you started the British Empire.,🇬🇧🇬🇧

  • @argus1393
    @argus1393 3 года назад +1

    The MOB will cancel Mt Vernon.

  • @WhatKilledTheDinosaurs
    @WhatKilledTheDinosaurs Месяц назад

    Kinda zesty??🤨🤨🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈

  • @jcskits1377
    @jcskits1377 3 года назад

    Traitors

    • @1978rharris
      @1978rharris 3 года назад +6

      As an Englishman I can’t say I blame them for their “treason”. Besides, it’s only treason if you lose, which they didn’t. The principles on which America was created were noble in the extreme and I would probably have joined with the founding fathers, if given the chance.

    • @jcskits1377
      @jcskits1377 3 года назад

      Rob chill our it’s a joke 😂

    • @sethfrisbie9840
      @sethfrisbie9840 3 года назад +1

      @@1978rharris as an American who only has English ancestors that been in the New World since the 1600s that fought for American Independence and against the Confederates I would welcome you in the United States of America.

    • @archivesoffantasy5560
      @archivesoffantasy5560 2 года назад

      @@1978rharris “noble in the extreme”
      You do know in the revolutionary war and war of 1812, slaves would try and escape to the British side.
      Something is wrong when you - a self proclaimed freedom fighter- have literal slaves trying to escape to the side you call tyrant