Arsene Wenger got it spot on a few years ago, he said young players are being rewarded with big contracts before actually achieving anything. Some of those young players then think that they have made it, so their performances drop off.
Mainoo should not be getting a new contract now! 3 yrs left need to perform every yr b4 a new contract is shelled out! 6 months performance in a 4 yr contract does not mean a contract extension. This should be the way for everybody going forward.
Amorim can’t coach the squad or train them if they are playing every 3 days and they are always injured his job is impossible Amorim knows who to get out and realistically nothing significant will happen until the summer this season is over so stand by the manager don’t turn on him no matter what happens back Amorim
The entire team is doing very little at the moment. This coach came in and his tactics has made everything worse. If Koobie is not given a new contract he will leave for free at the end of his contract. Koobie is a quality player as you can see from his performance with the national team as well.
@@MichaelEnright-gk6yc call me toxic sure , yet ima be the one telling you "told you so" in 1-2 years time. Overhype the kid all you want he ain't United lvl....18 years this and that lol there are 16 y old kids breaking ankles in the champions league and Euros. Not good enough > move him on if he doesnt wonna be squad player
@@limitless7651he needs to earn that new contract. Hasn't done enough to earn it. Yes EARN IT is the operative word here. If he doesn't then he can go to the highest bidder. No time for freeloaders anymore
I'd love for us to get goalkeeper for Brentford, Vladimarsson, 22 backup but has amazing abilities and great with his feet. He can play out from the back despite not how Brentford play. As for blocking shots he reminds me of De Gea. He's a star in the making
@@MikeD-r2c We had a more than decent Keeper, De Gea, treated him like crap, lost him for nothing, then spend 50 miilion on a Clown, at a time when other positions needed addressing - striker, winger, centre midfield, left back, centre backs, etc etc.
To think if Ten Hag was still here, yes we maybe around 7th or 8th - but all the problematic players would just be carrying on in the same way - fast forward to what Amorim is doing now - calling out the players that have big question marks on them and making inrows to getting these out of our club - Ineous must stop thundering along at 100mph though - otherwise more avoidable mistakes will happen!
I am Man Utd fan but I feel that MU is definitely losing fans at a fast rate. Mainoo is probably a City or Barca type midfielder. He would shine in a team that dominates the possession. His lack of speed hurts the team.
From what I've heard Adam is that the young player contracts come up for review yearly to take into account of their game time and importance for the first team and how good they are playing. Their wages for first-team players compared to Mason Mount, Luke Shaw, Casemero, and most of all Rashford who are not playing in the team but getting paid there is a problem
Always should have been. Lower basics with regular training and match performance bonuses along with season long target bonuses, with an insurance policy level for injured players. Big players would need to fight for their starting spot. (Edit to add...) But we'd never be able to get that sort of deal past the players agents.
With all the cost cutting going on at United and the poor form of the team, there should be a freeze on new contracts for existing players with more than a year left. With the year we've had I would be embarrassed to ask for an increase.
Great. If Mainoo or Amad wants more money then sell them. We can get a combined 120 mil from both of them. Add in Garnacho too. 180mil. We can use the money and reinvest in the squad.
On the point you made about the relegation years, I became a Utd fan in 1974 (yeah - great start) but despite everything there was always an optimism around the club which was of course rewarded the very next season. Now it feels as if the club is broken (not to mention broke) to the point I felt Ruben's obvious embarrassment when fielding questions from the press and the roof started leaking. I think this image sums up the situation at the moment and if there is no money available I don't see us getting out of this situation any time soon. I am still mystified as to how one of the richest and most successful clubs in the world in 2003 could be reduced to this 20 years later - you couldn't make it up.
Ask Sir Alex about that one m8, he is after all the one that made it possible for Glazers to obtain the needed shares to overtake the club The answer to your question lies in Rock of Gibraltar
Totally agree with you on Kobe. No need to be changing his contract. Sadly the lucrative contracts that have been handed out previously have not been justified by consistent performers on the pitch. Retrospective performance related bonuses need to be the way forward. Do the business and you will be rewarded.
The same fans saying no to mainoo new contract are the same ones who wanted garna to get a new contract because they convinced themselves Real Madrid wanted him 😂😂😂, the same ones who wanted Bruno to get a new 300k+ contract despite now entering his 30s, coming off the back of our worst prem season ever and the realisation that his style of play is not for a team trying to win the league. 😂 😂
I know you are fustrated..All fans & supporters get that way..I've been a Forest fan for 50 yrs..I know the greatest highs to the most depressing lows..However I've stayed a Forest fan..It's part of my DNA now..Loyalty can be a rare commodity in all walks of life today..Loyalty is in You..Man U are a great team believe me..Every club goes through a rough patch & their fans have to go with them.. When you drink from the chalice of success always be prepared to swing your sword a little harder when the battle isn't going to plan..They'll be back! I'm sure..Hang in there my friend! -Happy New year to you! The future is always bright!
@@frootmcgoose3076 happy new year friend but I’m really done with Utd till the rats are gone haven’t watched a single game highlights only given all those 2 minutes is to much of my time the rat has to go fed up with Utd fans moaning but will never do anything about it just moan
We should see where we are next season before giving a new contract to people like Mainoo. If Amorim really wants Maguire to stay that's the one we need sorting. Can't believe I'm saying that but he has looked like he can do the job in the centre. If the boss wants him for another year then we need to get it sorted.
Amorim is a good coach, as was ETH, everyone was shouting for Eric to be sacked, and now we are probably in a worse position than we would have been if we kept Eric. I know if I was Eric I’d be pissing myself laughing, it wasn’t the coach that was wrong guys, it never was.
I'm not anti-youth or anything but I feel like the habit of overvaluing young players appears to have started with Januzaj. During Moyes’ season, he was the only real positive, and after the club allowed Pogba to leave a year or two earlier, a fear of losing young talent took hold. Since then, both the club and fans have tended to overreact whenever an academy player shows potential, acting as if every promising youngster is destined for greatness, despite the fact that most don’t reach the top level.
On Mainoo, I think its a bit harsh to be criticising his performances. I have a feeling as a young inexperienced player he is still struggling to understand Amorim's tactics, direction. Give him time, he just needs coaching and time.
Make a hold-up on new player contracts, They have to earn a new contract ,You have to think do the players deserve a new contract and we are 14th in the table ,The answer is No
Stop paying them more then %100.000 a week anything after that should be bonus pay ,performance pay,1st team pay.. pogba,rashford, martial,etc would not be doing this if they were on performance base,1st team selection pay,starting 11 pay... all these players play well when there contract are up ,but after getting new contract there is no effort
Performance based pay from now on .. starting 11 pay, 1st team pay, no player $ should get more then $100 the rest should be attitude, performance base extra pay..
No need contract.... otherwise we haven't learnt... you just got to look at the work rate over the past 3 months and you can tell things aren't right.... it's not about having a stand out year... it's about doing it week in.. week out
United should take amad's new contract under consideration when renewing contract not turned him to another deadwood and not performing after he signed it
I'm so sick of seeing clubs like Madrid having Valverde/Billingham Vini/Mbappe.. while United trying to extend Maino/Amad... what has happened to this team from Rooney/Ruud/Ronaldo/VanPerise. to Amad/Garnacho/Kobbie? like srsly wake up please.. your players are average, compare them with any big team you will realize why you are 14tth.
SJR s meanness is causing the loss of spirit at the club, no wonder players want out don't underestimate the need to be together whatever the role people perform.
Have we learnt nothing? Don't extend players contracts, much more lucrative contracts too, while they still have at least 2 years left on their current one. Players should earn a better contract, Mainoo and Garnacho haven't yet. Where's the incentive to do better if we reward mediocrity.
Really disappointed with Kobbie this season.....Has he been overplayed, or has he been got at by lazy coasters??? That's why the clearout of "stars", is so important!!! If YOU don't fancy it, sling your hook, but don't poison the youngsters.....
I'm not sure he's good enough, but why the drop off? Last season, quality, drive, determination, goals wow!!!Drafted into the England squad on form, no reputation to speak of? This season, massive drop in energy, focus, creativity and standard in general??? Maybe a senior player in his earhole, "Relax son, you don't have to make the rest of us look bad"........
garnacho got overhyped so much that he has 12 million followers on ig and he already seems complacent. not tracking back properly, shooting and missing way too much, having stinker after stinker and knowing that he'll start next game. even him having his kid at 19 is not good for his career. if you want the time and support of an academy kid act like it.
Mainoo is bang average and should not be getting a new contract, we should be selling him for pure profit and bringing in world class potential not keeping steady eddies, theres not a game where I have gone I can't wait to see what Mainoo does this game and that is exactly what we need, young talent that gets you off your seat.
Ur looking at Mainoo with tainted glasses he may well turn out to be a great player but at the moment I’d have him in the U21 team or on loan learning his trade
Mainoo's contract runs through'27. If he wants to negotiate more weekly wages, maybe he should get his head out of his arse and start earning it. Other wise let's sell him and Garnacho
@@trevorcross7703unless he sets up like ten hag did in the cup final we in for a hiding this season is a write of no European football next season might be a blessing
I’m not new I just dislike You even though I USED to believe you had the most essentially honest & believable things to say. But now you have NOTHING good to say about anyone!
Arsene Wenger got it spot on a few years ago, he said young players are being rewarded with big contracts before actually achieving anything. Some of those young players then think that they have made it, so their performances drop off.
It started with David Bentley
Bluddy well said , couldt agree anymore.
That's everyone at utd! Utd is a club that makes expensive purchases for players and then huge salaries.
Utd has most flops than any prem club. They will finish season 15th
@@saffy4352 and still has more trophies in the last 5 years than Assna
Mainoo should not be getting a new contract now! 3 yrs left need to perform every yr b4 a new contract is shelled out! 6 months performance in a 4 yr contract does not mean a contract extension. This should be the way for everybody going forward.
They give him 20k a week.
Keep the young players hungry, no need to give them huge contracts so early in their career.
Well said. United have handed out huge contracts for potential for far too long.
@elinjens1 so your bringing in approx 250-300k sterling per year as a nurse? I call cap on that.
@Boylo2492 No where close!! 🤣🤣
Need to Relax paying these big wages Anthony went from 20k to 200k , then they cry when they cant offload players on big wages
Amorim can’t coach the squad or train them if they are playing every 3 days and they are always injured his job is impossible Amorim knows who to get out and realistically nothing significant will happen until the summer this season is over so stand by the manager don’t turn on him no matter what happens back Amorim
I have come to hate how tight football schedules have become! It's too much football and it's boring!
It's amazing how players are still very young and need time when it comes too their game improvements but never too young when it comes to money.
Kobbie is doing very little at the moment!
The entire team is doing very little at the moment. This coach came in and his tactics has made everything worse. If Koobie is not given a new contract he will leave for free at the end of his contract. Koobie is a quality player as you can see from his performance with the national team as well.
He is coming back from injury not quite fully fit.
Only 18 .
Toxic fans can't say anything positivr.
@ I agree , the team is doing little, Kobbie needs a rest or something, he looks flat and tired.
@@MichaelEnright-gk6yc call me toxic sure , yet ima be the one telling you "told you so" in 1-2 years time. Overhype the kid all you want he ain't United lvl....18 years this and that lol there are 16 y old kids breaking ankles in the champions league and Euros. Not good enough > move him on if he doesnt wonna be squad player
@@limitless7651he needs to earn that new contract. Hasn't done enough to earn it. Yes EARN IT is the operative word here. If he doesn't then he can go to the highest bidder. No time for freeloaders anymore
I'd love for us to get goalkeeper for Brentford, Vladimarsson, 22 backup but has amazing abilities and great with his feet. He can play out from the back despite not how Brentford play. As for blocking shots he reminds me of De Gea. He's a star in the making
We need a decent keeper
We should play the academy players they no each other
@@MikeD-r2c We had a more than decent Keeper, De Gea, treated him like crap, lost him for nothing, then spend 50 miilion on a Clown, at a time when other positions needed addressing - striker, winger, centre midfield, left back, centre backs, etc etc.
Why would he want to leave the 🐝💤 ?
To think if Ten Hag was still here, yes we maybe around 7th or 8th - but all the problematic players would just be carrying on in the same way - fast forward to what Amorim is doing now - calling out the players that have big question marks on them and making inrows to getting these out of our club - Ineous must stop thundering along at 100mph though - otherwise more avoidable mistakes will happen!
💯
I am Man Utd fan but I feel that MU is definitely losing fans at a fast rate. Mainoo is probably a City or Barca type midfielder. He would shine in a team that dominates the possession. His lack of speed hurts the team.
From what I've heard Adam is that the young player contracts come up for review yearly to take into account of their game time and importance for the first team and how good they are playing. Their wages for first-team players compared to Mason Mount, Luke Shaw, Casemero, and most of all Rashford who are not playing in the team but getting paid there is a problem
That is why need to sell all these high salary players and do a reset with proper recruitment with right pay
all contracts need to be bonus incentivised in future
Always should have been. Lower basics with regular training and match performance bonuses along with season long target bonuses, with an insurance policy level for injured players.
Big players would need to fight for their starting spot.
(Edit to add...) But we'd never be able to get that sort of deal past the players agents.
With all the cost cutting going on at United and the poor form of the team, there should be a freeze on new contracts for existing players with more than a year left. With the year we've had I would be embarrassed to ask for an increase.
No new contract for Mainoo, let him prove himself. Get those ticket prices up to raise revenue for a better squad !!
Yup. No contract. He's looking more and more like the next Luke Shaw.
Great. If Mainoo or Amad wants more money then sell them. We can get a combined 120 mil from both of them. Add in Garnacho too. 180mil. We can use the money and reinvest in the squad.
United players are like the Inbetweeners of the Premier league, full of boast and luster but at the same time full of 💩
On the point you made about the relegation years, I became a Utd fan in 1974 (yeah - great start) but despite everything there was always an optimism around the club which was of course rewarded the very next season. Now it feels as if the club is broken (not to mention broke) to the point I felt Ruben's obvious embarrassment when fielding questions from the press and the roof started leaking. I think this image sums up the situation at the moment and if there is no money available I don't see us getting out of this situation any time soon. I am still mystified as to how one of the richest and most successful clubs in the world in 2003 could be reduced to this 20 years later - you couldn't make it up.
Ask Sir Alex about that one m8, he is after all the one that made it possible for Glazers to obtain the needed shares to overtake the club
The answer to your question lies in Rock of Gibraltar
Totally agree with you on Kobe. No need to be changing his contract. Sadly the lucrative contracts that have been handed out previously have not been justified by consistent performers on the pitch. Retrospective performance related bonuses need to be the way forward. Do the business and you will be rewarded.
I think we need to work out where he fits in the squad and then can we get consistent performances out I'd mainoo then look at another contract
The same fans saying no to mainoo new contract are the same ones who wanted garna to get a new contract because they convinced themselves Real Madrid wanted him 😂😂😂, the same ones who wanted Bruno to get a new 300k+ contract despite now entering his 30s, coming off the back of our worst prem season ever and the realisation that his style of play is not for a team trying to win the league. 😂 😂
49 years a Utd fan I’ve walked away from Utd now never wanted the rat I’m done
I know you are fustrated..All fans & supporters get that way..I've been a Forest fan for 50 yrs..I know the greatest highs to the most depressing lows..However I've stayed a Forest fan..It's part of my DNA now..Loyalty can be a rare commodity in all walks of life today..Loyalty is in You..Man U are a great team believe me..Every club goes through a rough patch & their fans have to go with them.. When you drink from the chalice of success always be prepared to swing your sword a little harder when the battle isn't going to plan..They'll be back! I'm sure..Hang in there my friend! -Happy New year to you! The future is always bright!
@@frootmcgoose3076 happy new year friend but I’m really done with Utd till the rats are gone haven’t watched a single game highlights only given all those 2 minutes is to much of my time the rat has to go fed up with Utd fans moaning but will never do anything about it just moan
You're too close to the microphone again it keeps saturating
We should see where we are next season before giving a new contract to people like Mainoo. If Amorim really wants Maguire to stay that's the one we need sorting. Can't believe I'm saying that but he has looked like he can do the job in the centre. If the boss wants him for another year then we need to get it sorted.
Amorim is a good coach, as was ETH, everyone was shouting for Eric to be sacked, and now we are probably in a worse position than we would have been if we kept Eric. I know if I was Eric I’d be pissing myself laughing, it wasn’t the coach that was wrong guys, it never was.
I'm not anti-youth or anything but I feel like the habit of overvaluing young players appears to have started with Januzaj. During Moyes’ season, he was the only real positive, and after the club allowed Pogba to leave a year or two earlier, a fear of losing young talent took hold. Since then, both the club and fans have tended to overreact whenever an academy player shows potential, acting as if every promising youngster is destined for greatness, despite the fact that most don’t reach the top level.
Its a bit odd to be talking about contracts right now. I would have said its for post season. They both need to put their heads down and work hard.
Bruno contract Isa joke, criminal
On Mainoo, I think its a bit harsh to be criticising his performances. I have a feeling as a young inexperienced player he is still struggling to understand Amorim's tactics, direction. Give him time, he just needs coaching and time.
Radcliffe absolutely correct on wages.
Ratcliffe the Ruthless.
Make a hold-up on new player contracts, They have to earn a new contract ,You have to think do the players deserve a new contract and we are 14th in the table ,The answer is No
@@lincolnjohnson5922 spot on. If they are out of contract then let them leave, if not, under no circumstances extend the existing one.
Stop paying them more then %100.000 a week anything after that should be bonus pay ,performance pay,1st team pay.. pogba,rashford, martial,etc would not be doing this if they were on performance base,1st team selection pay,starting 11 pay... all these players play well when there contract are up ,but after getting new contract there is no effort
Performance based pay from now on .. starting 11 pay, 1st team pay, no player $ should get more then $100 the rest should be attitude, performance base extra pay..
No need contract.... otherwise we haven't learnt... you just got to look at the work rate over the past 3 months and you can tell things aren't right.... it's not about having a stand out year... it's about doing it week in.. week out
Mainoo not been good since he came back from injury. In fact I would say terrible!!
United should take amad's new contract under consideration when renewing contract not turned him to another deadwood and not performing after he signed it
FIRE SALE !!!!(hold the AMAD)… clench cheeks for old Trafford tomorrow
U would be really good if u didn't have to read your que cards
Why are we having conversations about a contract for Mainoo? Salah renewal hasn't been initiated and he's on form of her s life!
In Ruben I trust , that's all I need to say.
I'm so sick of seeing clubs like Madrid having Valverde/Billingham Vini/Mbappe.. while United trying to extend Maino/Amad... what has happened to this team from Rooney/Ruud/Ronaldo/VanPerise. to Amad/Garnacho/Kobbie? like srsly wake up please.. your players are average, compare them with any big team you will realize why you are 14tth.
SJR s meanness is causing the loss of spirit at the club, no wonder players want out don't underestimate the need to be together whatever the role people perform.
What a player andre
Have we learnt nothing? Don't extend players contracts, much more lucrative contracts too, while they still have at least 2 years left on their current one. Players should earn a better contract, Mainoo and Garnacho haven't yet. Where's the incentive to do better if we reward mediocrity.
Mainoo is 15kg too heavy
We must be careful with Rashy. Sad if Amorim goes b4 anyone else
Stop rewarding mediocrity. People have lost their jobs and yet this bunch of clowns 🤡 are here earning millions.
Should have kept dean Henderson ?????
Really disappointed with Kobbie this season.....Has he been overplayed, or has he been got at by lazy coasters??? That's why the clearout of "stars", is so important!!! If YOU don't fancy it, sling your hook, but don't poison the youngsters.....
Not sure he’s good enough, no rush with a contract.
I'm not sure he's good enough, but why the drop off? Last season, quality, drive, determination, goals wow!!!Drafted into the England squad on form, no reputation to speak of? This season, massive drop in energy, focus, creativity and standard in general??? Maybe a senior player in his earhole, "Relax son, you don't have to make the rest of us look bad"........
@@dontynan2256That or they don't try why should I, cannot do it on my own. Has to be soul destroying for him.
Its BRUNO bullying young players get this fraud out.
He doesnt need another contract yet
garnacho got overhyped so much that he has 12 million followers on ig and he already seems complacent. not tracking back properly, shooting and missing way too much, having stinker after stinker and knowing that he'll start next game. even him having his kid at 19 is not good for his career. if you want the time and support of an academy kid act like it.
Mainoo is bang average and should not be getting a new contract, we should be selling him for pure profit and bringing in world class potential not keeping steady eddies, theres not a game where I have gone I can't wait to see what Mainoo does this game and that is exactly what we need, young talent that gets you off your seat.
Ur looking at Mainoo with tainted glasses he may well turn out to be a great player but at the moment I’d have him in the U21 team or on loan learning his trade
He just signed a new deal
Can we sign olmo osimhen
Mainoo's contract runs through'27. If he wants to negotiate more weekly wages, maybe he should get his head out of his arse and start earning it. Other wise let's sell him and Garnacho
United never take advantage of an open goal . Newcastle to beat United 4-0
Maino to overrated he can leave!...to easy to press and always give away the ball with his silly pass
Kobbie is very average this season
Kobe mainoo is rubbish, should be sent on loan
Kobbie Mainoo needs to leave or he will end up bang average playing alongside some of these players
I hope tomorrow's game will expose Fernanda's weakness
HOW!!!!!! HE,S BANNED!!!!!!
@@trevorcross7703unless he sets up like ten hag did in the cup final we in for a hiding this season is a write of no European football next season might be a blessing
I’m not new I just dislike You even though I USED to believe you had the most essentially honest & believable things to say. But now you have NOTHING good to say about anyone!
It sure seems "The Rat" has no understanding what Man Utd is!
We all knew he was not a lifelong fan!