What size discs are you taking off if you're putting 314 (yes, 314 not 315) on? When I changed my 302 for 314 I just cut my shields off completely as they were rusted and I wasn't about to disturb the bearings. You could cut the new shields in half and fit them then either weld back together or use bolted straps across the cut. I presume also that you do know dots and slots do nothing for braking performance, though they do give nice disc porn.
Yes, took off 302 and replaced with 315. This is just the best way to do the dust shields I think, as it’s sandwiched with three bolts between the hub and car. And yeah, since I’m not tracking it the slots don’t provide much of a benefit, but like you said, they look good! ;)
@@MicEE87 jajjemen! TOP VIDEO! De kommande helgerna monteras "dina" bromsok, coilovers och smidda motor ner i en Aero. Alla slitdelar utbytta. GDM Performence Steg 3+
Will the caliper brakes mount right up to the spindals from the smaller brakes ??? I have the 278mm on the rear and 285mm on the front of my 2.0T I’m wanting to go with bigger brakes and seeing this can they just hold up to the old mounting spots just do the minor mods to backing plate that u showed???
I'm needing to replace front left wheel hub on my 07 2.0T, (and on the fence on replacing axle whose nut threads were warped when we hit nut too hard with metal hammer) and last week saw a junkyard 06 Aero with all 4 calipers/dust shields in tact as well as both axles, and the mental gears of playing God went spinning, now that I see this video on will the 314mm fit on a 2.0T............
Update: rear calipers and dust plates successfully extracted. Got front calipers, will return tomorrow with a claw push tool to knock out axles all in the name of getting those front dust plates!!!! I refuse to be defeated!
My dad recommend the jack thing one time I was trying to break a stubborn nut free. Old school help helps lol. It a great trick! Other than the size difference is it a double piston caliper? I have a 2006 aero but my rotor are only 302mm. Is that only a turbo x setup? I'm looking to do a brake upgrade. I was looking at the brembo option but on carid the have a ton of wilwood options front and back fairly cheap
That's what I thought. It was a few trips to the parts store lol. On the caliper it was stamped 302mm it was hard to see at night with them being previously painted black. The dust shields fit the 302mm rotors. I was pretty confused on that. I'm not sure if they swapped them out before they sold it or what. I originally bought 314mm rotors and pads nothing matched up. The brake pad tabs wouldn't go into the caliper and the rotors hit the dust sheild. Thanks for the response
You re right Brandon, it seems first Aero v6, until mid 2006 used "little" 302mm front brake... Bad, really bad... When i see how my 2006 with 314mm has not really good break, i can t imagine something worst...
2006/7/8 Aeros came with 302. Change up to 314 - makes a huge difference, it's what I di on my 07 Aero. No not twin piston, but piston is bigger at 68mm (ilo 63), hence better braking (doesn't sound like much, but it's nearly 20% increase in piston area so 20% increase in braking for the same pedal force from your foot)
Been looking for slotted 314mm rotors didn’t know I could bump it up to a 315mm while keeping the same dust shield. Also struggle finding good pads for my 07’ Saab 93 aero convertible
I’d recommend EBC red stuff pads and you can get slotted rotors from R1 concepts. Installed 345 slotted rotors and EBC red stuffs on my turbo x here: ruclips.net/video/NdTqZ-ZFrfY/видео.html
Yep they are. I know people have done this upgrade on a 9-5, and I know it’s not terribly difficult, but not this straightforward. I bet there’s a thread on it online if you search some Saab forums or google!
Thanks for your videos! I saw at the comments that you think that it is a good choice to install brembo brakes from alfa romeo 159. Do you know if the calipers will fit directly or if i will need adapters for that?
Recently, I had to change the passenger side half shaft. The Jack method didn't work, it broke my 18" breaker bar. I even got a 24" heavy duty breaker bar on it and a piece of pipe over the handle as a cheater bar. Ended up putting a smile in the breaker bar without the center nut moving any at all. I got out a "truck stop special" 12v impact wrench that my father-in-law gave us. After it hammered 9 or ten times, it broke free easily and spun right off. To the guy that put it on, f#@$ you very much, buddy!
A suggestion, if to replace the disc brake heat shield you have to remove the hub, a long and complicated job, much better to leave the original one and cut the edges so that they do not touch with larger brake discs
Then you’ll get a ton of brake dust around everything in there. You can do it that way, and it’ll save you time, but I’d rather not deal with all of the dust!
@@AutoAutopsy Consider that the screen is not so much smaller in size, even on the Maptun online site with the upgrade kits they do not provide the screen and indicate to modify the existing one, furthermore the lip that is going to be cut does not cover the whole brake disc anyway but only part of it and I don't think it would make such a huge difference. If you then install larger brake kits such as Brembo's, they do not provide a larger screen in any case
@@AutoAutopsy Of course, you are right, obviously it is always better to put the right pieces, but given the long and complicated work, cutting the edge lip is the simplest solution used by many. As mentioned, for oversized brake kits such as Brembo there are no screens, so either you cut the lip of the original one or remove it completely. If possible, maybe you can avoid cutting off the lip but sore it upwards making it flat and thus increasing the diameter of the screen by what is needed.
Swapped: I got new hubs (Not sure I can type the brand name with women and children present)(current ones grinding), junk find axles, both clean/sound (previous ones stripped threads, tore boots changing stuff oops), and new dust plates (for the actual calipers/rotors.) Hot take: Broke down and paid junk yard staff addt'l $40 bribe to break axle from hub just to get access to the Aero front dust plates, those axle splines just Did. Not. Want. To. Break. Free. Aero calipers currently being held hostage in Mexico (funny story) Question: Did you have to change the master cylinder and ABS modules for this upgrade or is the default B207 parts good enough for the Aero brakes?
I would just order new dust shields; they'll cost you the same as what you paid that junkyard person to remove them lol. I didn't upgrade the master cylinder;I assume it's the same part for all 9-3's
Further confirming the easy confusion of different brake sizes on the NG9-3. Your 04 ARC has the same front brake caliper as my 08 Aero, but my 05 ARC Vert has the next size smaller calipers on 302mm disks. Interesting..... Don't tell my vert, or she'll get disk-envy. Lol...
Great video. :-) I did this upgrade in my Aero (2003). I just wonder .. why did you not replace wheel bearing while you were on to it? That is not that expensive, and the bearing is expected to fail sooner or later.
So you upgrade the brakes of your 2.0t to the second best bolt on stock brakes for that car while you have a perfectly good set of THE best bolt on stock brakes sitting on a Turbo X next to it and that car is also going to get a brake upgrade ? Why not just buy the upgraded brakes for your TX and put it's old ones on your 2.0t ? Best value for money you can get if it's really a budget build, instead of buying bigger brakes twice (once per car). I have the 314mm NG9-3 Aero brakes too but on my -03 9-5 Aero which is an extreme upgrade for that car, so much better than the originals. But i also have a complete set of Turbo X brakes just collecting dust here as i just never tinker with my car anymore :/
The Turbo X doesn't need new brakes at the moment (or anytime soon) and I haven't fully committed or decided on a brake upgrade for the turbo x yet. I think you're missing the entire point
Great trick with the floor jack! I’ll have to remember that one :)
My Dad would do that with fence posts. Mount a strong nail, snug a car jack to it and it came out easy without tons of digging
Great opportunity to change your wheel hubs if they were bad. Nice work as always. Like the new rotors and pads. They look awesome under those wheels.
Thank you!
When I did mine i just cut off the dust shield's rim with an angle grinder and banged it with a hammer a few times to prevent it from rubbing.
Yeah, I’ve heard that’s the quick solution. I’d rather just do it this way to help prevent brake dust getting everywhere
I done mine last year. I highly recommend you paint them
i did with my other car; these looked fine
How do you get that spring on. No one and I mean no one demonstrates how this done. 😢
ooo that jack-method is genius
;)
What size discs are you taking off if you're putting 314 (yes, 314 not 315) on?
When I changed my 302 for 314 I just cut my shields off completely as they were rusted and I wasn't about to disturb the bearings. You could cut the new shields in half and fit them then either weld back together or use bolted straps across the cut.
I presume also that you do know dots and slots do nothing for braking performance, though they do give nice disc porn.
Yes, took off 302 and replaced with 315. This is just the best way to do the dust shields I think, as it’s sandwiched with three bolts between the hub and car. And yeah, since I’m not tracking it the slots don’t provide much of a benefit, but like you said, they look good! ;)
Riktigt bra jobb och bra video! Jag ska montera exakt samma bromsar, fast på en 9-5 Aero från 2006 - så TACK för bra instruktioner.
Är du här och läser också :)
@@MicEE87 jajjemen! TOP VIDEO! De kommande helgerna monteras "dina" bromsok, coilovers och smidda motor ner i en Aero. Alla slitdelar utbytta. GDM Performence Steg 3+
Will the caliper brakes mount right up to the spindals from the smaller brakes ??? I have the 278mm on the rear and 285mm on the front of my 2.0T I’m wanting to go with bigger brakes and seeing this can they just hold up to the old mounting spots just do the minor mods to backing plate that u showed???
They are a direct fit to the hub. Everything needed is shown in this video
12:13, is the brake line bolt the same as with the 308mm brake caliper or do i need to get a new one?
the 302mm? It should be the same to my knowledge, but if you're ordering used calipers, i would assume they'd come with those bolts
@@AutoAutopsy oh yeah 302, my bad. No i bought new ones without bolts and breaklines
Does the 2.8t V6 have this bigger Aero brakes originaly?
I'm needing to replace front left wheel hub on my 07 2.0T, (and on the fence on replacing axle whose nut threads were warped when we hit nut too hard with metal hammer) and last week saw a junkyard 06 Aero with all 4 calipers/dust shields in tact as well as both axles, and the mental gears of playing God went spinning, now that I see this video on will the 314mm fit on a 2.0T............
Update: rear calipers and dust plates successfully extracted. Got front calipers, will return tomorrow with a claw push tool to knock out axles all in the name of getting those front dust plates!!!! I refuse to be defeated!
awesome!! lol
Used pads on new rotor is not good,you should put new pads!
My dad recommend the jack thing one time I was trying to break a stubborn nut free. Old school help helps lol. It a great trick!
Other than the size difference is it a double piston caliper? I have a 2006 aero but my rotor are only 302mm. Is that only a turbo x setup? I'm looking to do a brake upgrade. I was looking at the brembo option but on carid the have a ton of wilwood options front and back fairly cheap
302mm? Normaly you ve got 314mm on non turboX Aero v6...
That's what I thought. It was a few trips to the parts store lol. On the caliper it was stamped 302mm it was hard to see at night with them being previously painted black. The dust shields fit the 302mm rotors. I was pretty confused on that.
I'm not sure if they swapped them out before they sold it or what.
I originally bought 314mm rotors and pads nothing matched up. The brake pad tabs wouldn't go into the caliper and the rotors hit the dust sheild.
Thanks for the response
You re right Brandon, it seems first Aero v6, until mid 2006 used "little" 302mm front brake... Bad, really bad... When i see how my 2006 with 314mm has not really good break, i can t imagine something worst...
2006/7/8 Aeros came with 302. Change up to 314 - makes a huge difference, it's what I di on my 07 Aero. No not twin piston, but piston is bigger at 68mm (ilo 63), hence better braking (doesn't sound like much, but it's nearly 20% increase in piston area so 20% increase in braking for the same pedal force from your foot)
Yep, what they said! Turbo X has these same calipers I put on, just bigger rotors (345mm)
Hey do you know the part # for the E20 caliper bolts need four to install this same brake system to my OG 9-3 convertible
check esaabparts
Has anyone mounted the 345x30 from the V6T? The calibers from the Opel Insignia V6T, do They fit the Saab?
Nice upgrade ! Enjoyed
Thanks!
Hey my brother do they have a conversation kit to install the same brake on my 2003 OG 9-3 convertible bought all the Parts now I realize it can’t fit
you' have to search online; i don't know about fitment on the OG
Been looking for slotted 314mm rotors didn’t know I could bump it up to a 315mm while keeping the same dust shield. Also struggle finding good pads for my 07’ Saab 93 aero convertible
I’d recommend EBC red stuff pads and you can get slotted rotors from R1 concepts. Installed 345 slotted rotors and EBC red stuffs on my turbo x here: ruclips.net/video/NdTqZ-ZFrfY/видео.html
Awesome video man where did you them backing plates from I’ve just done the same upgrade an need some 👍🏻
esaabparts!
Is the caliper carrier bracket the same across both brake calipers?
i don't think so
Are those the same backing plates that come on 9-3's with the 314mm brakes? And would those bolt up to a 2005 9-5?
Yep they are. I know people have done this upgrade on a 9-5, and I know it’s not terribly difficult, but not this straightforward. I bet there’s a thread on it online if you search some Saab forums or google!
Thanks! I just picked up a set of calipers, 314mm rotors and pads for $50 at a local scrapyard so I'm just checking on what else I'll need.
Which ean code use the calipers?
ean?
Thanks for your videos! I saw at the comments that you think that it is a good choice to install brembo brakes from alfa romeo 159. Do you know if the calipers will fit directly or if i will need adapters for that?
you will almost certainly need custom brackets for that
Recently, I had to change the passenger side half shaft. The Jack method didn't work, it broke my 18" breaker bar. I even got a 24" heavy duty breaker bar on it and a piece of pipe over the handle as a cheater bar. Ended up putting a smile in the breaker bar without the center nut moving any at all.
I got out a "truck stop special" 12v impact wrench that my father-in-law gave us. After it hammered 9 or ten times, it broke free easily and spun right off.
To the guy that put it on, f#@$ you very much, buddy!
Lol nice! Glad you eventually got it
I agree with you oem colour calip. Is the best!
Thanks!
What is the additional weight of the upgraded rotors and calipers compared to the previous ones?
god question; not sure, but its well worth the upgraded power
Hmm. ...I have the same kit off a vauxhall signum to fit....
Not an easy job..well done
thanks!
What made it so hard for you?
A suggestion, if to replace the disc brake heat shield you have to remove the hub, a long and complicated job, much better to leave the original one and cut the edges so that they do not touch with larger brake discs
Then you’ll get a ton of brake dust around everything in there. You can do it that way, and it’ll save you time, but I’d rather not deal with all of the dust!
@@AutoAutopsy Consider that the screen is not so much smaller in size, even on the Maptun online site with the upgrade kits they do not provide the screen and indicate to modify the existing one, furthermore the lip that is going to be cut does not cover the whole brake disc anyway but only part of it and I don't think it would make such a huge difference. If you then install larger brake kits such as Brembo's, they do not provide a larger screen in any case
I chose to do it the right way, you’re certainly entitled to do it how you want though.
@@AutoAutopsy Of course, you are right, obviously it is always better to put the right pieces, but given the long and complicated work, cutting the edge lip is the simplest solution used by many.
As mentioned, for oversized brake kits such as Brembo there are no screens, so either you cut the lip of the original one or remove it completely. If possible, maybe you can avoid cutting off the lip but sore it upwards making it flat and thus increasing the diameter of the screen by what is needed.
If I just use stock rotors I won't have to remove the axle, correct?
these calipers need these rotors and pads, dont use 314 calipers and 285mm discs
Where did you get the calipers and brackets from?
second hand from a parts car
Will these brakes fit under stock 16" rims?
it would be extremely tight; depends on the wheel i think
does 17 wheels fit on this caliper and 314 discs?
yes, the aero came with 17's stock
Swapped: I got new hubs (Not sure I can type the brand name with women and children present)(current ones grinding), junk find axles, both clean/sound (previous ones stripped threads, tore boots changing stuff oops), and new dust plates (for the actual calipers/rotors.)
Hot take: Broke down and paid junk yard staff addt'l $40 bribe to break axle from hub just to get access to the Aero front dust plates, those axle splines just Did. Not. Want. To. Break. Free.
Aero calipers currently being held hostage in Mexico (funny story)
Question: Did you have to change the master cylinder and ABS modules for this upgrade or is the default B207 parts good enough for the Aero brakes?
I would just order new dust shields; they'll cost you the same as what you paid that junkyard person to remove them lol. I didn't upgrade the master cylinder;I assume it's the same part for all 9-3's
Further confirming the easy confusion of different brake sizes on the NG9-3. Your 04 ARC has the same front brake caliper as my 08 Aero, but my 05 ARC Vert has the next size smaller calipers on 302mm disks. Interesting.....
Don't tell my vert, or she'll get disk-envy. Lol...
yes! it's weird!!
Nice upgrade. I thougt that aero brakes comes with two pistons… I think I will put brembo brakes from Alfa Romeo 159 ti
Good choice
Great video. :-) I did this upgrade in my Aero (2003). I just wonder .. why did you not replace wheel bearing while you were on to it? That is not that expensive, and the bearing is expected to fail sooner or later.
Looks 🔥 .
:)
when it comes to wheel nuts remember there is far more strength in your leg than your arm.
Lol, and even more in the jack!
Можно использовать трубу вместо домкрата)))
Помогает идеально!
Инфа 100😎
I can’t get the clip off
Oof. Not too sure how to help there
How do people not know that jack trick..
Also "the nut" is a axle nut.
So you upgrade the brakes of your 2.0t to the second best bolt on stock brakes for that car while you have a perfectly good set of THE best bolt on stock brakes sitting on a Turbo X next to it and that car is also going to get a brake upgrade ?
Why not just buy the upgraded brakes for your TX and put it's old ones on your 2.0t ?
Best value for money you can get if it's really a budget build, instead of buying bigger brakes twice (once per car).
I have the 314mm NG9-3 Aero brakes too but on my -03 9-5 Aero which is an extreme upgrade for that car, so much better than the originals. But i also have a complete set of Turbo X brakes just collecting dust here as i just never tinker with my car anymore :/
The Turbo X doesn't need new brakes at the moment (or anytime soon) and I haven't fully committed or decided on a brake upgrade for the turbo x yet. I think you're missing the entire point
I bet this are not original Brembo parts. Brembo dont offers such a shape on their discs.
i said it's for a brembo brake kit. not brembo rotors!