Francisco Lindor (Kinda) Made Me Look STUPID
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Francisco Lindor (Kinda) Made Me Look STUPID
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Hey man at least u admit it most people wouldbt
I will
You said “over rated”… so what. At the time it applied
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Shortstop is basically the one position where if you are a premier defender having a good bat is considered a bonus.
That and catcher honestly
@joelwebster6672 Why is that?
@@TiagoGomez-hb9te Because they are the most valuable and difficult defensively.
@@joelwebster6672 don't forget CF. I remember Harrison Bader had a 4 WAR season even while being an average hitter
If Lindor finishes with at least a .280 BA and 30/30 again then he really would have a chance against Ohtani for the NL MVP. My boy Lindor deserves more credit man, not only is he an elite switch hitting shortstop.. the man also literally plays EVERY GAME 💯 let that sink in folks.. I’m glad that he turned his season around 🇵🇷🗽🍎 hope he wins!
I think we need to remember MVP stands for most valuable player. Would the Dodgers be where they are without Ohtani? Yes. Would the Mets be where they are without Lindor? I think we can all say HELL F*CKING NO! By the way, as I typed this Lindor hit his 30th home run of the year…Will he beat out Ohtani? No. Should he? It’s arguable. That said, Lindor should have been an all star and I’m salty Alonso got in over him. Lindor drove me nuts as a player but was always a good clubhouse presence (aside from when Baez was here). Lindor has become a Mets great in the last season or 2.
Not so fast. You forget the Dodgers were without Mookie Betts for nearly 2 months, from June 16th-August 12th, as he was recovering from a fractured left wrist. You’re telling me the Dodgers would’ve maintained their division lead over the Dbacks and Padres, both of whom are tied as having the best 2nd half team records without Ohtani and Betts in their lineup?!!
If we are talking most valuable, bobby witt gets MVP, not Judge. Mostly him but also Salvy and the rotation brought a 100loss team into a postseason contender while aaron judge just hits behind soto with average defense and moved the yankees from 500ball to division contender. If shohei and Judge gets MVP, offense is most important to baseball writers. If lindor and BWJ gets it, they value overall package. We will see who gets the hardware in a few months
@@Adam-mj5hlOhtani doesn’t play defense just voter bias at this point
@@Adam-mj5hltheir the dodgers they’d still be in the same spot
@@arandomdudewithhobbies3318you saying Yankees would be that good without judge?😂
Good for you for recognizing your mistakes
But Italk, you handsome gentleman, you said Lindor was overrated! You can’t take that back
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The fact anyone thinks Otani deserves the MVP over Lindor is crazy. Francisco is playing the field everyday, at the hardest fielding position and at a gold glove level. As well as hitting the way he's been. If Otani was pitching as well then absolutely him but he's only batting. Lindor has put in way more work
Ain't no one hitting plus stealing like Ohtani. Can't downplay what Ohtanis been doing even just as a DH.
Yeah you can. He’s literally the only guy not playing both sides. Besides the pitcher. If he doesn’t have to be out there constantly ready then he’ll have way more energy and focus for his at bats. One might argue his numbers this year actually prove that. He’s been more successful as a hitter than he ever has, and the big change is he hasn’t been pitching this season. Lindor is definitely putting in way more work on the field. Also, everyone expects this from Ohtani. It’d be more weird if he wasn’t having a season like this.
@@Yobichn I'm not putting him down at all. He's the best player in baseball but as a bias Met fan, Lindor has impressed me more this season because he's playing everyday fielding and hitting
Nothing tops Jake calling the Dbacks dead after losing 3 to the Phillies, then coming back to win, and make him look like a fool for doubting his own “Jake’s snakes.”
He's the worst lol
Loved that you made this video, as a Lindor stan I’ve been waiting for this video!🤟
As a Mets fan, it is greatly appreciated that our 2024 NL MVP is getting some love
Lol funny joke 😂
Lmao he’s not winning MVP over Ohtani
Mets have 0 MVPs in 62 years and that’ll continue 😂
It’s lindor’s MVP
LFGM
@@Elietalks keep saying that to yourself
WHAT DID I SAY I TOLD YOU ITALKSTUDIOS
If you take Shohei out of the dodgers they probably still will win 100 games, but take lindor out of the Mets they might win 75, keep lindor in there they win 90+.
How you are going to say he’s not worth the money? He’s a leader , brings fans to the seats , sells jerseys , plays the hardest positions in baseball better then anyone, hits home runs in the same game from both sides , does charity work for the community, makes other players better around him , potentially other great players would want to come play with him free agents ect …
Since you made that video, Franciso Lindor has been the best player in the National League with nearly double Shohei Ohtani's fWAR.
LETS GO LINDOR!!! The deserving MVP!!
I respect you coming back and admitting Lindor isnt overrated. I say hes properly rated with some under appreciation, but this year everyone is definitely coming around on that side. Hes a top 5 most valuable player in the NL every year since his 1st as a met.
I still think Lindor is very close to Othani to the MVP then people think. Why did David Ortiz not win the mvp even tho he was the best hitter in all the league? Because he was a DH, and that happened to him twice. Lindor is not only going to have a 30+ hr 30+ stolen base season, but he also is the best defensive shortstop in all of baseball, he has almost 30 outs above average which is crazy. Plus how he has become absolute clutch for the Mets, Most valuable player is a Guy that has had the biggest impact in a team/division/league. NOTE am not saying that Lindor is better then Othani, after all, Othani not only is the best player in baseball (when he's pitching and batting) but for me he is an all time top 10 or even higher. And also that he's probably going to get the most votes for MVP, but the argument is there, and i feel like Lindor should be taken into account more then people are taking him.
Osuna is closer than Lindor.
@@godlikecharacta9294says absolutely no one
Lindor is definitely 1st in guys fighting for 2nd place to Ohtani. Idk how a DH leads the NL in war
Definitely should be in 1st place in voting
That’s easy. WAR is a nonsense meaningless stat that was made up by nerds who’ve never seen a curve ball live.
50 home runs and 50 steals is how
cause he doesnt lead the NL in war. Its lindor that does
@@Tommy_Montana because war is a dumb stat that has no true formula to figure out. It’s something that people
Who have never seen a curve ball live before use to make them seem like they actually know what their talking about
I'm even more of a dumbass for saying Lindor was no where near Profar in terms of value (mvp) this year but then I saw how badly Profar dropped off the past month and Lindor has been insane
To Lindor’s credit… and maybe proving you right…. You can see the wave begin to build across the season on Baseball Reference.
1st half : .253 BA, .784 OPS, 97 hits, 17HRs
2nd half : .309 BA, .943 OPS, 56 hits, 12 HRs and counting
Even just on a month by month basis, he started cold and went nuclear
March/April: .197 BA, .639 OPS
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August : .325 BA. .939 OPS
Lindor mvp you saying fielding doesn't matter is stupid look at yadier Molina he's going to get into the hof mainly off of his defense you undervaluing defence is on you lindor should win the mvp because he's the most valuable player in the national league
I am a die hard Met fan and I always figured all you care about is home runs. You know nothing and have no appreciation for old school small ball. The Hugh Grant defense normally works every time but it still doesn't take away the fact that there is more to baseball than just "having fun" and kissing Ohtanis butt. LFGM
I'm 99% sure the Mets won the Lindor deal
And as I watch this he carries the Mets to ANOTHER victory.
And you made a point where Lindor doesn’t seem as valuable because the team has had very little success while naming Trout and Ohtani who has had very little success.
The mets would be 20+ games below .500 without lindor. He is MVP. He has the highest war of anyone in the race.
Yeah
Still a better commentator than that loud mouth on ESPN that don't know baseball.
Your not the only one who’s been saying lindor is overrated and not worth his contract. He’s been very good with the Mets outside of maybe his 1st year in NY.. which you should expect having a player go from Cleveland to NY. 1 WAR is approx worth 8 million dolllars. Lindor has been putting up an average of 6 WAR a season. This actually makes lindor undervalued.
Your problem with seeing Lindor as MVP isn't your preference for offense. It's not seeing past the better player vs the most valuable player. If that was the case Trout would have what, 8 or 9 MVP awards
Let’s go lindor, take that wildcard spot away from those stinky braves
Bro no worries, I’m the ultimate Mets fan. About a year or two ago I was going to make a vid claiming that he can’t play in NY. I’m excited to be wrong on that take as a Mets fan. #mvp
2:10 Well I think you're improving quite well with videos. You finally learned the difference between "historical" and "historic". Good job 👍
Can't believe you think Lindor is overpaid as well
The fact that defense doesn't matter to some is mind boggling to me...😮
I as a true met fan humbly acknowledge your starter apology and will consider forgiveness for your full proclamation of sorrow in the form of a trade. We will accept Rafael Devers without RISP for Brett Baty. And you have to say the Mets are better than the Sox.
Literally every player you say they din’t need to be great defenders and still get paid, with the obvious exception in Ohtani, do not play shortstop. Thats why they get to suck defensively if they want and still get a good contract for hitting. Shortstop is the second most important defensive position in baseball. You CAN’T suck at it and get a bag for just hitting.
If the Mets win the WS and if Lindor is a main contributor while playing as he is or even better than he can win the MVP good video though
It's okay Itallk you are not the only who underrated Lindor.
That being said it's time to fill out the apology form.
His Baseball Savant don't lie. He's the entire package.
Frankie plays every day too. Every damn game.
If you go back to that vid…I said it…he’s far from overrated!
I think he’s earned that much this year. If he didn’t start the year like crap, he would literally be a legit MVP candidate
You're not necessarily wrong, more like not 100% accurate based upon perceptions.
I mean I semi disagree with the statement that teams only pay for hitters. If that’s true DH’s and 1st baseman would make just as much money than other positions.
People are so stuck on his contract like they the ones paying it he deserves the money because of his elite play on both sides Ohtani didn’t get the biggest contract ever because he can hit it’s because of the 2 things he can do and high levels
So I'm gonna gleam some lesser spoken things about Lindor that I feel set him apart from other superstars. Sept 2023, way after the Mets left a mean deuce in the bed, were playing the Nationals. Lindor took time before the first game to sign autographs for fans. Vientos came a little after to follow. Kids screamed "Hey Pete! PETE! Come here!" And I don't recall if he acknowledged the fans or not, but he sure as hell didn't come over to greet anyone.
Your WAR argument would make sense if we were talking about most valuable HITTERS, but we’re talking about most valuable PLAYERS. To disregard the defensive portion of his WAR is to purposefully ignore what makes him so valuable.
Your take on Yusei Kikuchi was also bad, he's been amazing for the Astros.
How?
A real man owns up to his faults especially when they get new information. Go Sox!!
Yep lindor’s been great but if ohtani can get more bwar than lindor and like .1-2 less fwar with only batting and baserunning, i think he should still get mvp over him
Yesssss! I’ve been waiting for this vid for a while now
I’m glad the dude is making a comeback but let’s face reality he’s not winning MVP over Ohtani
lol it’s all good my guy the entire baseball fan base makes the exact same statements. The only issue people have is you voiced it publicly. You had no idea how he was gonna perform, you could only go off what he has done up to that point. Was it maybe a little jumpy? Maybe. But players can turn a good or bad season around in one month so there’s no real way you could’ve estimated Lindor was gonna get back to form. The recognition of being wrong is always greatly appreciated but don’t let it get to you homie we all do the same.
TB TO THE OVERRATED VIDEO I CALLED IT
Great defensive shortstops who can hit for power are a commodity.
It was Mets fans that was saying he was over paid and overrated earlier in the season
LOL, you completely discount defense in WAR, okay. Why not just have a league of all DHs. Every position gets a DH. That would be the perfect italk league.
Ha, I remember that video. Not surprisingly a lot of my friends who are Mets fan thought he was overrated as well lol
No DH has won MVP, and none would this year either except for our awe of Ohtani. Any player on the team can DH, and having to use the spot for one player means it can't be used to rest a top hitter, or to get a very hot hitter in the lineup, or to stack an extra L/R sided batter against the pitcher, or to trade for or promote the hottest bat available for the stretch run.
When Ohtani pitches it makes sense to be a DH, but I wonder why he doesn't play the field some this year. He's an incredible athlete with the arm and speed to play outfield (maybe LF while rehabbing his pitching arm). 1B sometimes? He fields well as a pitcher. He's also on a team that would try Betts at SS.
Where's the Jarren Duran video. He's 3rd in WAR with 8.7. Only .2 behind 2nd place Bobby Witt. I need more talk on Duran. Lol
Underrated
Appreciate you making a video about this. Huge ups to you for realizing you made a mistake. This is how you make an apology video.
Brother, your talking about a shortstop defence absoloutley matters..
Can you make a video about the Cubs so they can make the playoffs?!
Thank god he realized
And then a homerun and double 3 RBI night today
🔥Lindor MVP❗️ 💪🏼🇵🇷
I don't think a DH should ever win the MVP. If Shohei had 60 homeruns I'd be more for it. I don't value stolen bases because there much easier now anyway.
Just gained a lot of respect. Not that I didn’t already love your content but this isn’t the first time I’ve seen you admit your take was wrong. That’s the coolest thing about this channel you keep it real you tell it how you see it and that’s why I been subscribed. Keep up the great work brotha!
Thank you for your support, it means a lot❤️
I still think he’s overpaid but as a Mets fan I definitely appreciate his turnaround. 😁👍🏼
i have Lindor in fantasy. he’s been on fire
What’s the issue? At the time you weren’t wrong. Just cause he turned it around doesn’t mean you were wrong at the time.
I believe you can safely remove the (Kinda) from the title. Good on you for owning up, bad on you for not doing it fully. And also focusing solely on offense would be like watching the NBA all-star game...as in no one would. Offense is definitely needed and the focus of games but without defense it's just batting practice.
I admit I thought the same thoughts at the beginning of the season but..... Damn.... He's a monster who has gone viral this year. Way to go Lindor. I've loved watching him..this year.
Forget Grimace. Maybe you inspired the turn around. After your first video he has gone off. So thank you.
just glad he living up to his contract. Im sick of these players like rendon and baez ruining the whole payroll. Now teams getting smart as we seen with boras clients not getting long contracts.
Think thing about Lindor is he’s not the best at anything but he excels at all aspects of the game and in the clubhouse which is the most underrated part.
Fransisco Lindor's the Shortstop Version of Carlos Beltran...
@@TiagoGomez-hb9teBoth Puerto Rican lol
Dont forget Trout and Betts r real good defensively too
When will you learn??? 😭😭😭
Hey @italkstudios do you know where I can find that footage from 0:47? My fiance and I are in it going crazy and I want to get a clear screen grab lol
Hmm honestly not sure haha it was from a 2022 montage of him I'm pretty sure!
@@iTalkStudiosno worries, thanks for the reply. Btw great video as always, as a diehard Mets fan and someone who adores Lindor, that video was a gut punch but at the time I understood it. I was just hoping for this moment haha.
P.S. without Shohei the Dodgers are in the playoffs, without Lindor the Mets are nowhere. Just food for thought. Keep up the great work.
Did you roast or fry the crow? What sauce did you pair it with? Any starch or veggies?
Lets go Mets!
He didn’t really own up to his words he just smartly walked them back….nice job
We still love you iTalk
Then what is Jose Ramirez😅
I forgive you italk
There hasn't been a more emotional forgiveness moment since Peter forgiving Sandman in Spiderman 3
I MADE IT ON THE VID!!!!
Make a video of doug endings umpire yelling at Paul skewers
He was. I'm with you.
Just another HR and 3 rbi tonight as you post this
Did I catch a Critical Drinker reference? :D
Mookie betts has 26 rbis in 26 games since coming from the INJURY LIST
D1 mookie betts meatrider
Takes a big person to admit a mistake. I’ll just never understand where the Lindor hate comes from though tbh…dude has done nothing but put up like 5-6 WAR year in and year out. What’s there even to hate? He’s easily justifying his salary.
this video was needed
Just hit another home run, RESPECT THIS MAN
Ohtani would be good for MVP if he was ( pitch / hitting ) this year tbh. But im on Team Lindor 💪🏼💙🧡‼️
Just watched this video as he hit his 30th HR.
Ask the red sox how valuable defense is
I told you at the time that you were saying “overrated” just because you didn’t like his contract, but you argued with me four times that overpaid equals overrated. Nice to admit you were wrong about Lindor, but how about telling your viewers they were right?
The question is “who is the most valuable player to their team” the dodgers don’t need shovel to lose in the playoffs, they been doing it without him.
He didn’t start the year off that well and with that contract people will be mad when he doesn’t produce that’s New York you’re great they love when you suck they hate you.
here after he hit another home run and double for 3rbi 🤣
When you talk greatest of all time they all are plus plus fielders.