Joan was and is one of the best . She also chose her movies really good . They all stand the test of time . Teach us about human desires , flaws , fortunes etc. great story lines . I wish we had more of her wok .
First off, thanks for the upload! The plot line was sinfully delicious. The plot actually comes from the author of the novel. If it was beefed up to modern day, Stephen King would have a ball with this horror film because it has so much potential. I really think that this was a good role for Joan because it actually had parallels to her real life, especially with her relationships with children and men. Eva was aging and that's why she was so jealous of the younger, more pretty women like Carol and Jennifer. As an old gay man film critic, I can relate! All the make up in the world can't replace lost youth. This film had me at Hello and I think we all just want to be loved, scars and all, agree or disagree? My rating 10/10. Now I'm hungry for the original 'Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?' LoveLove, can you upload that film?
Whatever happened to Baby Jane? (1962), a favorite and for years was shown on television, is a classic. If you are a fan of old films not to mention Crawford and Davis, it is one you truly must see. The downside, it has not been released anywhere online for public consumption.
I love ❤these actors and actresses . I can watch over and over again. Superb acting 😊 Miss films like these! Thank you 🙏🏾 to the person who made this movie possible to watch on this channel 🍿
@@wendyferreira6504Rude she wanted to stand out in Hollywood as there were so many starlets up and coming.She had a distance style of make up and hair. It was her own creation. She was beautiful and talented as hell.❤
@@wendyferreira6504 You could describe her as handsome, but that doesn't mean she looks like a man. She has striking features, but none of them really say "masculine" on their own.
This is one of Joan's gems!!!! I have seen this movie several dozen times and I NEVER get bored watching! The way she manipulated everyone with such passive ease is more scary than if she had done it aggressively. This is a damn good movie and Joan said she loved it because she loved playing bitches! God I love that woman!
And Faye Dunaway played a great Joan Crawford in Mommie Dearest in 1981. I wished that Ms. Crawford could have lived to see Dunaway's portrayal of her. And the irony is Ms. Crawford was a fan of Faye Dunaway. Joan Crawford once said that Fate Dunaway was the only real star.😱😳
@@sharonmontano4924 yes as you have. that is why you responded to my comment, encapsulated, by me honoring Ms Crawford. It’s beautiful outside have a wonderful day. 🥰
This is the third time I have tried to watch this movie. I never made it past the first sitting room scene after Joan arrives home before. This time I watched the whole thing. Her hair really distracted me at first. Her acting was pretty amazing. There were times when she seemed so sincere, open-hearted and girlish that I found myself sympathizing with her, then a split second later , devil woman Joan was back. wow. Love the gown/scene close to the end (1:22:08) where she pauses at the top of the stair in that incredible Black Widow dress, completely empowered in all her regal Joan-ness. She rearranges the train of the dress about her perfectly, sets that beautiful chin and descends to her fate. Marvelous!
The acting is excellent (the one bomb is John Ireland). The plot and dialogue are both well-conceived. Joan's hairstyle was trend-setting for the 1950s.
Siempre se basó en esa técnica en sus películas. Aunque esto podría sonar aburrido, Joan Crawford podía tener la capacidad de decir las frases hirientes con dobles sentidos y tonos de voz diversos vez tras vez, lo que hacía esperar la próxima película de la Crawford, una vez que te acostumbrabas a su estilo.
First time seeing this tonight. Amazing movie. Joan Crawford was way before my time but her acting is timeless. She was such a manipulative woman in this movie. I loved it 😅
Joan Crawford was still alive and still acting when I was younger and I always thought she was scary and weird. Especially when she was on game shows as herself. 😮
Idk. To me Joan's character was like someone that is a covert narcissist. Biblically speaking this is known as the Jezebel spirit. It is like they have you like a puppet on a string. They tend to make you miserable and it seems as though you can't really get away from them. Especially if they are a spouse or a parent. When they are a parent they feel as though they can control you and own you even when you are an adult. This movie did a great job displaying someone with NPD and how horrible it is to be in close relationship with them. They WILL take a toll on your life. That is why you generally have to end up not interacting with them at all. No matter who they are.
Tía Joan es entrañable como siempre. No la comparo con ninguna otra actriz, sólo me centro en ella, su personalidad e interpretación y simplemente me fascina su magnetismo y energía en escena. Estas películas melodramáticas eran todo un género aparte en la época. Quizá no es la mejor película, pero tiene una convicción y compromiso además de una producción cuidada y hermosa que ya quisiéramos ver más a menudo en el cine de hoy. Pulgar arriba, una buena película y pese a lo enrevesado de la exposición, la trama es perturbadoramente real, por eso quizá esta película no es lo suficientemente apreciada. Es muy morboso como para aceptarlo, pero al mismo tiempo vivir en manos de alguien narcisista y manipulador es algo que no se puede negar que ocurre demasiado a menudo.
“It makes me terribly cross when people oppose me.” - Joan Crawford The whole film is a delectably, fever-pitched camp gem, filled with biting dialogue, high melodrama and a surprisingly effective visual style, especially when seen in its proper widescreen ratio. Corny as it is now, it did garner two Oscar noms, one for its costumes and one for cinematography.
Im in my 60s and my mother died when I was really young.....my father said she looked like Joan Crawford...I hope it was nothing like her character roles....❤
Absolutely riveting! Thanks for this. Crawford was good at playing absolute bitches which mirrored her character somewhat, offscreen; narcissistic, domineering, a control freak, but she also was good at playing softer roles as well.
Joan Crawford was one of the great Actresses. She and Bette Davis rivaled yet did respect each other for their craft. Also, Joan Crawford did play other roles showing her as a loving woman. Mildred Pierce, Autumn Leaves. However, I guess when Cristina Crawford put Mommie Dearest out, sad what the true life was. Yet, Joan Crawford rose high to her craft. She started out as a dancer in silent films.
"Jen! You really most learn to join in conversations-otherwise you give such a mousy impression! But, you do look nice in that dress I bought you...." I love the way she so easily shifts between casual emotional abuse and sugary maternalism. Lmao!
It is hard to explain. It is like they have you on a string. You saw how they wanted to get away from her. But she was always threatening them and playing mind games. People that are around people like that end up taking their own lives or whatever the case may be. You would have to have been through it in order to understand it. The film is excellent.
@@ladennayoung2939 Thank you! You described exactly what life with a pathologically narcissistic family member is like.. to outsiders, it almost seems like science fiction, but for those who have to live through it on the inside, it's a hell all too real. This film nails that 'hellish' existence almost too realistically. Unsuspecting folks normally laugh or poke fun at realities they simply have not lived through and thus cannot fathom. However, as hard to believe as it may seem, this scenario is sadly all too real in some families!
Creo que también juega un papel importante en la fascinación de ella el gusto humano, dentro de ciertos límites muy personales, de lo morboso. Ella es una mujer (cuando le conviene), seductora, de buena conversación, elegante, de chistes simpáticos y es brillante. Si a eso le sumamos que unos años antes cuando inician los acontecimientos era una mujer muy bella, como se ve en el retrato del fondo, eso puede atraer y ser muy muy seductor. El problema es cuando los encantos son parte de una estrategia y no son reales, pero eso el víctima de una narcisista como Eva no puede verlo hasta cuando está enganchado, y eso es lo que se muestra en esta película. Suena increíble desde la lógica pura, pero la psicología diría que esta película no está errada. Si muy brusca, tosca, en la exposición del tema pero lo que narra bien que puede suceder.
t forgot just how very dramatic some old movies are. And as I see Joan Crawford sashaying around in her designer clothes, I can't imagine that in "real life" her having a nurturing bone in her body. Still, I''m glad I found this online.
Lucy Marlow, playing Jennifer, made her last film in 1956. I wonder why she gave up her career. She lived till 86. As for this film, it is seriously flawed in some way, but I don't know where or on whom to place the failure. Maybe some of the reviews from when it was released will explain. It could be subtitled "A Star Models Jean Louis Creations".
The plot line is ridiculous another thing I I thought of was that the leading men in this movie are not good-looking. To think that young girl would go after Joan Crawford's husband is absurd. The thing that was the best of the whole movie was Joan Crawford's wardrobe. You can tell she wanted to be the star of that movie. Bad hairdo though. Just my
Narcissists were never young & innocent. They had narcissistic traits from birth. Many of those children who scream at the top of their lungs at bedtime and keep their parents up until they get their way are narcissists in the making.
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This is definitely one of Crawford's best top 10 movies.
This is what a Joan Crawford film should be. A vixen vexing her world and losing everything.
A masterpiece!
I lived my whole life to hear "A vixen vexing her world" and now I can die happy!
Joan Crawford was a great actor, especially when she played herself.
😂😂
I liked when she played a cameo in The Lucy show as herself. Great actress
The picture should have been nominated for more than just costume and cinematography. Crawford was great !
52:29 bam!!! 🤣😂😅Joan in her element!!
I love all of Joan Crawford movies. She was the true diva no other actress could hold a candle to her
She is Fabulous ❤❤❤❤❤, Happy Holidays, Happy 2024🎉🎉🎉
I never have seen this film. I'm enjoying it a lot. Joan was still at the top of her game here. ❤
Black and gray pictures are so relaxing
Joan was and is one of the best . She also chose her movies really good . They all stand the test of time . Teach us about human desires , flaws , fortunes etc. great story lines . I wish we had more of her wok .
Was Joan into Chinese cooking? Just wondering. 🤔😁
First off, thanks for the upload! The plot line was sinfully delicious. The plot actually comes from the author of the novel. If it was beefed up to modern day, Stephen King would have a ball with this horror film because it has so much potential. I really think that this was a good role for Joan because it actually had parallels to her real life, especially with her relationships with children and men. Eva was aging and that's why she was so jealous of the younger, more pretty women like Carol and Jennifer. As an old gay man film critic, I can relate! All the make up in the world can't replace lost youth. This film had me at Hello and I think we all just want to be loved, scars and all, agree or disagree? My rating 10/10. Now I'm hungry for the original 'Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?' LoveLove, can you upload that film?
Whatever happened to Baby Jane? (1962), a favorite and for years was shown on television, is a classic. If you are a fan of old films not to mention Crawford and Davis, it is one you truly must see. The downside, it has not been released anywhere online for public consumption.
@@delana2842yes it has I have watched it on here some time ago!
Beautiful movie, I'm watching from Rochester NY, beautiful movie, Happy Holidays 😊 Happy New
@kirbykipling9515Powerful movie, enjoy, Happy Holidays, Happy 2024🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊
Agree!
Loved this film. Joan was one of best from Hollywood's golden age. Thank you posting this gem!
JOAN AND BETTY ARE MY BEST OLD STARLET STARS TO DATE❤❤❤❤❤
Damn, Joan is wicked in this film. She plays that malevolent role with so much ease. She is totally convincing.
That's because it didn't deviate from her true self...according to Christine
@@tangiecleans312I was brought up by a narcissistic mother and every word Christine says is true in my opinion....
@@midnightblue3226My mother was the same. I also believe Christina's story about Joan Crawford.
Yes. She was very evil in this film.
Did you live with Joan Crawford?
I love ❤these actors and actresses . I can watch over and over again. Superb acting 😊 Miss films like these! Thank you 🙏🏾 to the person who made this movie possible to watch on this channel 🍿
Nobody plays evil like Joan Crawford. She even looks the part.
Joan Crawford always looked like a man to me
@@wendyferreira6504Rude she wanted to stand out in Hollywood as there were so many starlets up and coming.She had a distance style of make up and hair. It was her own creation. She was beautiful and talented as hell.❤
That's so true. I saw her in shows like Night Gallery and others she did play the part. She was evil lol
@@wendyferreira6504 You could describe her as handsome, but that doesn't mean she looks like a man. She has striking features, but none of them really say "masculine" on their own.
That’s because she is lol ask her daughter is Christina lmao
This is one of Joan's gems!!!! I have seen this movie several dozen times and I NEVER get bored watching! The way she manipulated everyone with such passive ease is more scary than if she had done it aggressively. This is a damn good movie and Joan said she loved it because she loved playing bitches! God I love that woman!
Joan and Bette were among my favorite actresses from Old Hollywood, they played being evil so good!
@@NovemberReignethey were awesome in “what happened to baby Jane “
And Faye Dunaway played a great Joan Crawford in Mommie Dearest in 1981.
I wished that Ms. Crawford could have lived to see Dunaway's portrayal of her.
And the irony is Ms. Crawford was a fan of Faye Dunaway. Joan Crawford once said that Fate Dunaway was the only real star.😱😳
@@soso8824 גם ק''ג 0ןעעמפו
Joan had that "it" factor on the screen. She was born to be in Hollywood when Hollywood mattered.
Love me some Joan, she delivers every time.!
Yes she does, Happy Holidays and Happy 2024🎉🎉🎉🎉😊
Joan Crawford played this role to the T, I never saw this movie before but it was really good exclamation point wow !
Thank you
I loved the little homestead!😂😂😂
Crawford! 💞
Thanks for the fantastically enjoyable uploads
I never tire of this movie!! So much fun. And that slap!!! Thank you !
Not the best of movies but once again saved by the legend that is Joan Crawford
There's only one Joanie!You must see her in Harriet Craig!
It was great to me. I think everyone did a good job.
It kept me riveted and I'm not easy to please.
Love ❤ these old movies thanks😊
I have been encapsulated by Joan Crawfords beauty and talent she is a marvel on screen truly a legend. One of her best performances
“Encapsulated”?😂
You’ve been made into a capsule?
@@sharonmontano4924 yes as you have. that is why you responded to my comment, encapsulated, by me honoring Ms Crawford. It’s beautiful outside have a wonderful day. 🥰
The fact that that man agreed to drive Eva to her party "after a drink" has aged _perfectly._
File under "So Bad It's Hilarious." 🤓 Thanks for the post.
This is the third time I have tried to watch this movie. I never made it past the first sitting room scene after Joan arrives home before. This time I watched the whole thing. Her hair really distracted me at first. Her acting was pretty amazing. There were times when she seemed so sincere, open-hearted and girlish that I found myself sympathizing with her, then a split second later , devil woman Joan was back. wow. Love the gown/scene close to the end (1:22:08) where she pauses at the top of the stair in that incredible Black Widow dress, completely empowered in all her regal Joan-ness. She rearranges the train of the dress about her perfectly, sets that beautiful chin and descends to her fate. Marvelous!
Thanks for uploading JOAN CRAWFORD was the best.
Joan Crawford is playing her genuine self....no acting required.
You knew her? 🙄
She certainly didn't have a good reputation.
@@annemccarron2281According to who? There's a lot more to her than that silly movie you're likely basing your opinion on.
Reminds of a Tennessee Williams play.
Outrageous "Bad Joan" fun! Thanks for the upload!
Incredible filmmaking joan crawford was intense thank you for this fine film
The dialogue… inconceivable! The plot line… outrageous! The acting… barbaric! Joan’s hairdo… idiotic! Really enjoyed it! 👍🏽
the hairdo 😁
The acting is excellent (the one bomb is John Ireland). The plot and dialogue are both well-conceived. Joan's hairstyle was trend-setting for the 1950s.
Didn't Gary Olman have the same hairdo when he played in Bram Stoker's Dracula?
@@karllieck9064That's funny, I reference that hairdo alot 😂
@georgeeliot2012....😊😊
That home 🏡.. well..that mansion.. Grand! Just Grand!!
I love this film. Thank you for uploading it⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Wow amazing WONDERFUL film.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
5 minutes in , Jennifer should have left that house of dysfunctional lunatics.
Yeah I agree like horror film 🥶😱
It's true to life - it takes awhile for people to believe orhers truly are so evil. It's happened to me dozens of times!
Great actress..and a beautiful lady..RIP Joan.
Joan can give a compliment and put down at the same time. 🤭
And that takes skills!
Siempre se basó en esa técnica en sus películas. Aunque esto podría sonar aburrido, Joan Crawford podía tener la capacidad de decir las frases hirientes con dobles sentidos y tonos de voz diversos vez tras vez, lo que hacía esperar la próxima película de la Crawford, una vez que te acostumbrabas a su estilo.
First time seeing this tonight. Amazing movie. Joan Crawford was way before my time but her acting is timeless. She was such a manipulative woman in this movie. I loved it 😅
Joan Crawford was still alive and still acting when I was younger and I always thought she was scary and weird. Especially when she was on game shows as herself. 😮
@@alandale2182 her eyebrows and weird hair roll shapes always get me!
@@Chichilovee I know! I think her eyebrows had an acting career of their own. 🤭
@@alandale2182 😆😆
Great ending and I love the clothes.
I love Joan Crawford for all her wrong doing reasons❤
This was wonderful!
Her career from the WOMEN to MILDRED PIERCE to JOHNNY GUITAR was the best
So very good
Idk. To me Joan's character was like someone that is a covert narcissist. Biblically speaking this is known as the Jezebel spirit. It is like they have you like a puppet on a string. They tend to make you miserable and it seems as though you can't really get away from them. Especially if they are a spouse or a parent. When they are a parent they feel as though they can control you and own you even when you are an adult. This movie did a great job displaying someone with NPD and how horrible it is to be in close relationship with them. They WILL take a toll on your life. That is why you generally have to end up not interacting with them at all. No matter who they are.
Tía Joan es entrañable como siempre. No la comparo con ninguna otra actriz, sólo me centro en ella, su personalidad e interpretación y simplemente me fascina su magnetismo y energía en escena. Estas películas melodramáticas eran todo un género aparte en la época. Quizá no es la mejor película, pero tiene una convicción y compromiso además de una producción cuidada y hermosa que ya quisiéramos ver más a menudo en el cine de hoy. Pulgar arriba, una buena película y pese a lo enrevesado de la exposición, la trama es perturbadoramente real, por eso quizá esta película no es lo suficientemente apreciada. Es muy morboso como para aceptarlo, pero al mismo tiempo vivir en manos de alguien narcisista y manipulador es algo que no se puede negar que ocurre demasiado a menudo.
Definitely a beautiful film, I love Joan she is amazing, Happy Holidays, Happy 2024🎉🎉🎉🎉😊
En ingles
“It makes me terribly cross when people oppose me.”
- Joan Crawford
The whole film is a delectably, fever-pitched camp gem, filled with biting dialogue, high melodrama and a surprisingly effective visual style, especially when seen in its proper widescreen ratio. Corny as it is now, it did garner two Oscar noms, one for its costumes and one for cinematography.
Yeah and none for the wooden acting if you're not depressed will be 5 minutes into this scary dark film 🥶😱
Im in my 60s and my mother died when I was really young.....my father said she looked like Joan Crawford...I hope it was nothing like her character roles....❤
Loved this!
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Absolutely riveting! Thanks for this. Crawford was good at playing absolute bitches which mirrored her character somewhat, offscreen; narcissistic, domineering, a control freak, but she also was good at playing softer roles as well.
One of my favorites. Thanks for sharing.
A very wicked movie. 🤣 🎥👌🏽✨ Thanks for sharing.
My favorite line was the husband when he said, "whatever lie you told im sure its expert" 😂
Great ending!! Great acting!!
Loved it..thanks!
Omggggg this my favorite JC movie
loved it and the costuming was beautiful
No-one is as good as joan when shes bad!
Joan Crawford amazing actress of golden era of movies. Enjoy this 🍿 movie thanks u tube. She excellent just being. her shelf just saying
Fabulous acting.
Joan Crawford was one of the great Actresses. She and Bette Davis rivaled yet did respect each other for their craft. Also, Joan Crawford did play other roles showing her as a loving woman. Mildred Pierce, Autumn Leaves. However, I guess when Cristina Crawford put Mommie Dearest out, sad what the true life was. Yet, Joan Crawford rose high to her craft. She started out as a dancer in silent films.
My Favorite Crawford film❤❤❤
"Jen! You really most learn to join in conversations-otherwise you give such a mousy impression! But, you do look nice in that dress I bought you...." I love the way she so easily shifts between casual emotional abuse and sugary maternalism. Lmao!
Joan, always the star, and "No Wired Hangers"!! 😅
Wonderful movie.
Greatness!!!!
Good movie!
Fabulous film❤
💖“Mommy Dearest” 🏰 👸 🐝 💎✨
Valla ....películas...más bonitas ...y buenos actores ....vale ...la pena ...verlas ....👍👍👍
En ingles!
I love hpw she wakes up woth a full face of make up, acting like shes looking awful and clmes back out looking rhe same way asking "Do I look human?"
Great story ❤❤❤
TODAY IS DEFINITELY A DAR ☀️ FOR THIS ☝️
I know it’s a movie, but I have no idea why people would stay around someone like that. I’d be gone in a heartbeat…
It is hard to explain. It is like they have you on a string. You saw how they wanted to get away from her. But she was always threatening them and playing mind games. People that are around people like that end up taking their own lives or whatever the case may be. You would have to have been through it in order to understand it. The film is excellent.
@@ladennayoung2939 Thank you! You described exactly what life with a pathologically narcissistic family member is like.. to outsiders, it almost seems like science fiction, but for those who have to live through it on the inside, it's a hell all too real. This film nails that 'hellish' existence almost too realistically. Unsuspecting folks normally laugh or poke fun at realities they simply have not lived through and thus cannot fathom. However, as hard to believe as it may seem, this scenario is sadly all too real in some families!
Creo que también juega un papel importante en la fascinación de ella el gusto humano, dentro de ciertos límites muy personales, de lo morboso. Ella es una mujer (cuando le conviene), seductora, de buena conversación, elegante, de chistes simpáticos y es brillante. Si a eso le sumamos que unos años antes cuando inician los acontecimientos era una mujer muy bella, como se ve en el retrato del fondo, eso puede atraer y ser muy muy seductor. El problema es cuando los encantos son parte de una estrategia y no son reales, pero eso el víctima de una narcisista como Eva no puede verlo hasta cuando está enganchado, y eso es lo que se muestra en esta película. Suena increíble desde la lógica pura, pero la psicología diría que esta película no está errada. Si muy brusca, tosca, en la exposición del tema pero lo que narra bien que puede suceder.
Well, you would have to have means to go. Women alone and unmarried were not welcome anywhere at that time.
I've married two different narcissists. They are horrible beings (not human beings, but androids without a heart).
Halfway through... Whoa... I FEEL NORMAL.
Great movie. I ❤d it.
Good one-TY
Yooooo!! "Oh I'm so happy for them"! Smakkkkk 💥😵 Joan, Joan, Joan 😂😝 thx 4 postn 💫
Whatever Happened to Fay Wray! 😮 Yas I’m doing Rocky Horror Picture Show 😂
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t forgot just how very dramatic some old movies are. And as I see Joan Crawford sashaying around in her designer clothes, I can't imagine that in "real life" her having a nurturing bone in her body. Still, I''m glad I found this online.
Who really was the wicked one here? That young Jennifer got what she wanted.
This was GOOD
*Judson* was the selfless hero of this tragic story.
Faye Dunway based her role on Mommie dearest on this movie, you can see in particular in her waking up scene on the bed and her going downstairs
Ah. Joan's daughter wrote a book about it that turned into the movie named Mommie Dearest. Faye was hired to play Joan in the film.
@@ladennayoung2939 a completely fictional book
Extraordinary. 😳
It might have been my mood, but this movie just makes no sense to me! 🤪🤯😽
A good film
Παρακαλώ υπότιτλους στα ελληνικα ευχαριστώ πολύ
Lucy Marlow, playing Jennifer, made her last film in 1956. I wonder why she gave up her career. She lived till 86. As for this film, it is seriously flawed in some way, but I don't know where or on whom to place the failure. Maybe some of the reviews from when it was released will explain. It could be subtitled "A Star Models Jean Louis Creations".
Lucy retired because she got married🙄
I agree depressing dark the children were the only ones that could act
The plot line is ridiculous another thing I I thought of was that the leading men in this movie are not good-looking. To think that young girl would go after Joan Crawford's husband is absurd. The thing that was the best of the whole movie was Joan Crawford's wardrobe. You can tell she wanted to be the star of that movie. Bad hairdo though. Just my
Who came up with the hairstyles they made women look old and matronly
Had an aunt joan..climbed pawpaw trees...that eye brows ..horse whip...scared even Count Drac to eat garlic..roasted
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Good movie but why is Carol living there.. they all just stay there😂😂
Narcissists were never young & innocent. They had narcissistic traits from birth. Many of those children who scream at the top of their lungs at bedtime and keep their parents up until they get their way are narcissists in the making.
The aunty who entered the house hasnt said thank you once. Her manners are terrible. She doesn't have any.
Too many damn commercials, can’t even watch it decently