When I got Aventurine I was still in early game. Blud carried my uinderleveled barely invested team for whole story and events until I finally built a dedicated FuA team
She actually outperformed Qingyi in stunning bosses in some stages. But she relies on her block to fill up the stun bar faster. Meaning, on aggressive bosses that frequently attack, she's faster at stunning than Qingyi.
I saw the comparison too but they didn't show how she performs without energy or how quickly she restores it. It was always full. Most daze comes from EX so she is more of a burst stunner when Qingyi can stun whenever. I don't see her using parry to build daze as a downside since it's an action game and mobs are aggresive everywhere unlike in a game like Genshin. You will use it alot in most fights. Still great allrounder.
I am so excited as a Zhongli main I am definitely gonna build her as a bruiser type character like I did with my Zhongli and build a Hypercarry team around her 💅🏽✨
Will never understand why zzz decided to use the same burst meter for alll characters. Pulling a 5* and then never using their burst jist doesnt feel right.
Only 1 minute into the video and I notice that you can see how many stacks a character has of their kit without having to on-field them. CRAZY AMOUNTS of QoL next patch. I'm ready to leave hollow zero forever.
When you are talking about the disk drives, can you open all of them so we can see the sub stats? I wanna see what I should be aiming for plz and thanks for the great video🎉🎉
7:33 completely wrong just so you know, level 1 core skill only increases atk by 135 so it still scales by level. idk why they didnt highlight it though, might be because theres no multipliers tied to it.
I would be curious to see a comparison between 4p Proto Punk and 4p Freedom Blues (on Caesar) for a Jane + Caesar setup; if the Anomaly Buildup RES would possibly out perform the 15% damage increase? Or perhaps the difference may end up being rather negligible or maybe more situational?
Looks like she’ll be a real asset to Ellen teams for sure. Although I do think the Attack buffing between her and Soukaku could become a bit over saturated… Maybe doing something like Rina (especially at M1) to provide a different buff would provide more final damage. As for replacing Seth in Jane teams, is the attack buff stronger than his AP buff? I get when Burnice releases since Seth can’t buff her when she’s off field in that team. Anyway, damn she looks like quite the powerhouse actually and I have to pull Burnice so this is going to be tough. I am guaranteed now but at 3 pity with like 5 pulls 😅
Seth's AP buff is probably equal to 100% of Jane's total attack×assault multiplier, while caesar's is equal to 1k×assault multiplier. Once Jane has more than 1k total attack, seth's buff value is higher. This is off the top of my head not sure if my math is correct
@@yyhn7168 Glad more people are realizing seths value over the new shiny 5 star, youre better off skipper her for burnice if you want an upgrade to your jane team
Ellen/Lycaon/Caesar or Ellen/Caesar/rina its gonna be probably better than Ellen/Caesar/Sk because of Sk bad synergy with ellen, making her lose a lot of dps time and burst window time. The good part about the 2 team i said you can buff Ellen very fast and don't even need to use another chain attack than Ellen.
Caesar is definitely the Zhongli of this game, she’s gonna make ZZZ so much easier (even though it’s already easy) and comfortable, even with the new crazy enemies we’re gonna get. The buffs and utility she gives are the cherry on the top. Just like how I enjoy Zhongli allowing me to autopilot Genshin, I’m gonna enjoy ZZZ the same way with Caesar.
Yeah everyone keeps saying shes better than seth, we'll have to see with further testing and when burnice comes out to see whos more worth pulling in 1.2 for Jane if you cant get both. For me burnice seems like the better upgrade
I'm a proponent of burnice jane seth disorder, I dont see the point of having a 1k atk buff that you have to invest up to F to get when lucy with kaboom the cannon can probably do that with daze sprinkled in. Also I don't think she buffs burnice since it only applies to current on-field character
Isn't going for anomaly profiency sub stats and main stat slot 4 good for ceasar+jane /piper anomaly teams because she might contribute too much anomaly build up especially with the smaller mobs?
Thats why ceaser on Jane teams feels weird to me, shes gonna diminish ur assault procs unless you build anomaly on her too which she doesnt really want, it feels like people are forcing her just to replace my boy seth lol
@@insertnamehere2022 I have been saving all my AP subs and crit subs on my shockstar disco because I believe that her build changes depending on what team she is on. I still have to farm the new set though. I don't think she replaces seth for jane hypercarry but you could still play her alongside both of them. The main issue of pulling Ceasar is not having enough polychromes for burnice.
Lol I'm reminded of Knight Moonbeam in Honkai Impact 3rd which had on-demand double Time Fracture which released in year one and was relevant in meta for so many years after even after everyone else from year one became obsolete. (imagine if Vital View extended buff timers and froze the stage timer and you could do it back to back on KMB to get a zero second stage clear, that's how broken it was lmao)
They'll no doubt try to experiment with a ranged no defensive parry defender and use this as mechanic. The Simulated Universe already have Vital View buffs even.
Could someone explain to me what would make her better than Seth in the full anomaly team because the proficiency buff + buildup debuff seems pretty hard to beat out
Pokke W. Only cc I watched who actually highlighted the substantial dps increase for characters like Ellen and s11. No one else seems to realise or at least mention that you are meant to get hit with the shield on so you can continue finishing attack strings, then reapply it.
Im 18 pulls aways from my guaranteed jane doe, shd i go all the way for jane doe or just wait for this? My only dps atm are zhu yuan and s11, any inputs?
As cool as the buff/shield/stun is, I think I am going to skip and wait for a rerun to see what happens. Or at least wait till the end of the patch and see what others say with more hands on time. I think burnice will do more for team my teams. The only real team I can see her being useful on is with zhu yuan with the anti interruption shield.
What makes her kinda broken is that unconditional +1k atk that you receive even with lvl 1 core passive, a defender that scales of Impact and has a grouping mechanic. if you are to compare it to GI, its like having Zhongli and Kazuha in a single character. Even if she cant replace stunner characters, against aggressive enemies can throw many attacks for Ceasar to parry, dazing them faster.
It's not 1000 at level 1, look when he scrolls through the different levels. It's just not highlighted for some reason, but it starts off at like 250 and is only 1000 at max level
I search for Lucia and I didnt like her design, Nun motive has never been attractive to me :/. So thats good I can go ham on Ceasar banner knowing there is nothing I like coming my way after Ceasar in the next months at least.
I recommend getting who you like more. Fun>> Meta always. But if you're talking about purely meta, I think that Caesar will be more helpful. You could pair her up with S11 and Lucy to make an amazing team. Jane is a great DPS, but it's generally better to pull for supports. But if you want Jane alot, get her. Having a strong team doesn't matter if you're not having fun. Whoever you end up getting, I wish you good luck!
I'd say save for Caesar. If you want to make the strongest disorder teams available once we get Burnice or other Burnice-like units for other elements, then Jane's a really good pick. But if you're not interested in disorder teams, or if you're willing to use Piper for a lower performance ceiling, Jane's a pretty safe skip imo. But if you like Jane's playstyle/character or whatever more, she's a perfectly good pull and nothing to regret.
HSR - Aventurine
Genshin - Zhongli
ZZZ - Caesar
my skill issue ass gonna be saved by all these shielder xD
When I got Aventurine I was still in early game. Blud carried my uinderleveled barely invested team for whole story and events until I finally built a dedicated FuA team
Fr, I don't have to worry about getting hit and can focus on dishing out damage without interruption.
“Mindscape 1 has more value over signature weapon”
But have you considered glowing ponytail
The real reason to pull wengines 😎
Rgb meta is the real endgame
IT'S BEEN 2 DAYS POKKE I CAN'T HANDLE IT ANYMORE!!!
Every moment, I can hear his voice echoing in my head
AAAAAAAA
@@Manquedeau INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE
If a pseudo stunner/support is alr this strong, I can’t imagine how broken the 5* limited supports will be 🙏
ikr..Nicole,Lucy,Seth already high tier for 4star
@@7cycles413 rina tho...
@@jyuu6650 shes 4star??
They will provide Omega buffs but will be more fragile
@@jyuu6650also Rina is standard 5star so..
They saw Ruan Mei and said "let's bring ours in 1.2" insane
I honestly hope we get a fire or impact support soon as well as an Ether defender in the mid to late future.
1.6 chars have a trend of being busted so I'm scared what they're gonna bring out then.
more like Zhongli tbh
@@Dafydd4 1.6 is like February next year lol
Not really, a RM in this game would boost anomaly build up
Gratz on your 1k videos, it's been a long road!
She actually outperformed Qingyi in stunning bosses in some stages. But she relies on her block to fill up the stun bar faster. Meaning, on aggressive bosses that frequently attack, she's faster at stunning than Qingyi.
I saw the comparison too but they didn't show how she performs without energy or how quickly she restores it. It was always full. Most daze comes from EX so she is more of a burst stunner when Qingyi can stun whenever. I don't see her using parry to build daze as a downside since it's an action game and mobs are aggresive everywhere unlike in a game like Genshin. You will use it alot in most fights. Still great allrounder.
let all Caesar ABOBA wanters be ABOBA havers 🙏😌
It been so long, I can't even remember bluds voice anymore
Congratz on the 1k video milestone 🔥
7:34 - The attack buff value changes based on the core level
Your 100% right. But I'm blaming hoyo on this one. Why is the attack stat no highlighted green in this case?
Happy 1000th video, mrP
Dehya music in the intro is so fitting
I am so excited as a Zhongli main I am definitely gonna build her as a bruiser type character like I did with my Zhongli and build a Hypercarry team around her 💅🏽✨
I'm building her as a damage
Cultured decisión 🗿
We miss you Pokke, fly high brother
The remix of pokke village at the end omg it is so nice
"1000 atk buff at any core skill level."
**cycles through core skill levels showing a change in the atk buff value at every level**
😂
To be fair, they usually highlight in green whatever changes with core levels
The "yippee" so enthusiastic, great video as always
Will never understand why zzz decided to use the same burst meter for alll characters. Pulling a 5* and then never using their burst jist doesnt feel right.
because the gameplay will be like genshin and wuwa that become ultimate fest
I believe that we are already powerful enough, I can't imagine using 2 more supers 😂
True and some of the bursts look so sick, it's sad that only DPSs get to use them...
Bruh, the chain attack has a really similar animation to ult idk what u talking about
Blud wants another E Q switch game. Go back to Genshin.
Joseph Joestar would not let Caesar get away
Only 1 minute into the video and I notice that you can see how many stacks a character has of their kit without having to on-field them. CRAZY AMOUNTS of QoL next patch. I'm ready to leave hollow zero forever.
I think Caesar might be the first character I start using hamster cages on, gotta "crown" the king 👑
Literally every limoted banner S rank has been metadefining, lol.
I pray I win my 50/50
When you are talking about the disk drives, can you open all of them so we can see the sub stats? I wanna see what I should be aiming for plz and thanks for the great video🎉🎉
7:33 completely wrong just so you know, level 1 core skill only increases atk by 135 so it still scales by level. idk why they didnt highlight it though, might be because theres no multipliers tied to it.
my plan: Burned my money with caesar, her weapon and burnice. skip next banner until Miyabi(?).
the question is: do I want to make the game easier for myself?
HAIL CEASAR!!!!!
idgaf Caesar is staying on-field
I would be curious to see a comparison between 4p Proto Punk and 4p Freedom Blues (on Caesar) for a Jane + Caesar setup; if the Anomaly Buildup RES would possibly out perform the 15% damage increase? Or perhaps the difference may end up being rather negligible or maybe more situational?
I think you just run proto punk on seth and freedom blues on caesar
Looks like she’ll be a real asset to Ellen teams for sure. Although I do think the Attack buffing between her and Soukaku could become a bit over saturated… Maybe doing something like Rina (especially at M1) to provide a different buff would provide more final damage.
As for replacing Seth in Jane teams, is the attack buff stronger than his AP buff? I get when Burnice releases since Seth can’t buff her when she’s off field in that team.
Anyway, damn she looks like quite the powerhouse actually and I have to pull Burnice so this is going to be tough. I am guaranteed now but at 3 pity with like 5 pulls 😅
Im skipping her for burnice, she'll be the better upgrade for jane imo
Seth is just really good with Jane i dont feel the need to replace him
Seth's AP buff is probably equal to 100% of Jane's total attack×assault multiplier, while caesar's is equal to 1k×assault multiplier. Once Jane has more than 1k total attack, seth's buff value is higher. This is off the top of my head not sure if my math is correct
@@yyhn7168 Glad more people are realizing seths value over the new shiny 5 star, youre better off skipper her for burnice if you want an upgrade to your jane team
@@yyhn7168 that does make sense actually yeah. Good to know!
Ellen/Lycaon/Caesar or Ellen/Caesar/rina its gonna be probably better than Ellen/Caesar/Sk because of Sk bad synergy with ellen, making her lose a lot of dps time and burst window time. The good part about the 2 team i said you can buff Ellen very fast and don't even need to use another chain attack than Ellen.
So Caesar powercrept Qingyi already after 1 patch 😭
Ah yes, this Caesar getting stabbed by 50 men is something I can get behind.
Qingyi/Caesar/Corrin, I will make the best maid into best dps no matter what
16:26 oh my lord he mentioned Ben
What is your graphics settings what do you do to make it look dark?¿
If I don't have ellen or jane, can I run her with Soldier 11?
S11/Caesar/Lucy?..
properly could work
Caesar is definitely the Zhongli of this game, she’s gonna make ZZZ so much easier (even though it’s already easy) and comfortable, even with the new crazy enemies we’re gonna get. The buffs and utility she gives are the cherry on the top.
Just like how I enjoy Zhongli allowing me to autopilot Genshin, I’m gonna enjoy ZZZ the same way with Caesar.
posting videoes from the flight thats crazy XD
this game really wants you to bust your credit card on caesar
Boar goes "Moooow".
The Dehya theme holy based
great video Pokke!
I don't think I'd like her with Jane. Diluting Janes assault dmg is not a good idea, especially when Seth can shock so easily and trigger disorder.
Yeah everyone keeps saying shes better than seth, we'll have to see with further testing and when burnice comes out to see whos more worth pulling in 1.2 for Jane if you cant get both.
For me burnice seems like the better upgrade
I'm a proponent of burnice jane seth disorder, I dont see the point of having a 1k atk buff that you have to invest up to F to get when lucy with kaboom the cannon can probably do that with daze sprinkled in. Also I don't think she buffs burnice since it only applies to current on-field character
@@yyhn7168 reject Ceaser, embrace burnice
@@yyhn7168 you are completely wrong btw
Isn't going for anomaly profiency sub stats and main stat slot 4 good for ceasar+jane /piper anomaly teams because she might contribute too much anomaly build up especially with the smaller mobs?
Thats why ceaser on Jane teams feels weird to me, shes gonna diminish ur assault procs unless you build anomaly on her too which she doesnt really want, it feels like people are forcing her just to replace my boy seth lol
@@insertnamehere2022 I have been saving all my AP subs and crit subs on my shockstar disco because I believe that her build changes depending on what team she is on. I still have to farm the new set though.
I don't think she replaces seth for jane hypercarry but you could still play her alongside both of them. The main issue of pulling Ceasar is not having enough polychromes for burnice.
@@airts Yeah shes still a good option but id much rather save for the bubbly burnice
@@insertnamehere2022 I can only guarantee one with the incoming polychromes but hoping i can get both : )
@@airts Do you know how much we can earn before burnice banner? Im only at 3000 rn
holy booba
Jane doe Caesar they're so big I mean their figure😅😅😅
So in summary, i'll be protected by her bosom rather than her shield??
One firmed water melons
Ceasar the new America’s ass right there brothers. 🎉
Meanwhile S11 still has no other faction members.
Fr...Only names mentioned in game. Magus, Seed & Trigger.
First it's super armor, then it'll be invincibility, and finally, active Vital View trigger. I'm seeing into the future.
Lol I'm reminded of Knight Moonbeam in Honkai Impact 3rd which had on-demand double Time Fracture which released in year one and was relevant in meta for so many years after even after everyone else from year one became obsolete. (imagine if Vital View extended buff timers and froze the stage timer and you could do it back to back on KMB to get a zero second stage clear, that's how broken it was lmao)
They'll no doubt try to experiment with a ranged no defensive parry defender and use this as mechanic. The Simulated Universe already have Vital View buffs even.
they reduce the shield from 90s to 60s now...
Blud will be remember 😢
Could someone explain to me what would make her better than Seth in the full anomaly team because the proficiency buff + buildup debuff seems pretty hard to beat out
GOOD LORD
Can she replace soukaku instead of lycoan in ellen team?
search for "nakfrg." He did a video using that comp and it flows pretty well too.
I couldn’t get jane doe. So I am saving my film for something else.
What happens if you try to charge attack with no assist points? Will she have a less effective charge attack or are you locked out of it entirely?
Have fun in the land of the free~
Ohh look another Ult that I will never use. Kinda wierd how they structured that.
got a feeling final version will have some areas toned down. she was undertune and then overtune
freedom blues on Ceasar in Jane teams yay or nay?
Pokke W. Only cc I watched who actually highlighted the substantial dps increase for characters like Ellen and s11. No one else seems to realise or at least mention that you are meant to get hit with the shield on so you can continue finishing attack strings, then reapply it.
Im 18 pulls aways from my guaranteed jane doe, shd i go all the way for jane doe or just wait for this? My only dps atm are zhu yuan and s11, any inputs?
Depends if you wanna replace your S11 with Jane or upgrade S11 with ceaser
@@insertnamehere2022 ic, interesting point, do i want to bench my s11, hmm..., thanks for the input
As cool as the buff/shield/stun is, I think I am going to skip and wait for a rerun to see what happens. Or at least wait till the end of the patch and see what others say with more hands on time. I think burnice will do more for team my teams. The only real team I can see her being useful on is with zhu yuan with the anti interruption shield.
who tuned her jiggle multiplier? i just wanna know
No ČN analysis?
Must pull..gg whoever skip her om
Ez skip
Shes not a must pull no one is (yet) this isnt hsr 😂
Dehya theme very nice
Mr., do you have something against Ben Bigger? 😂
DEHYA MUSIC HEARD
What makes her kinda broken is that unconditional +1k atk that you receive even with lvl 1 core passive, a defender that scales of Impact and has a grouping mechanic. if you are to compare it to GI, its like having Zhongli and Kazuha in a single character. Even if she cant replace stunner characters, against aggressive enemies can throw many attacks for Ceasar to parry, dazing them faster.
It's not 1000 at level 1, look when he scrolls through the different levels. It's just not highlighted for some reason, but it starts off at like 250 and is only 1000 at max level
the voices in my head.....theyre telling me that pokke is gone....i cant live like this anymore....
skipping her, still saving for male s-rank characters (already have lycaon, and saving for lighter) since day 1
i really want Caesar but im gonna wait coz Lucia kit got leaked
Bro they better not put Lucia in 1.3 I don't think I can pull 4 characters in a row....
I'm personally waiting for Lighter.
Her kit looks beyond boring and generic
I search for Lucia and I didnt like her design, Nun motive has never been attractive to me :/. So thats good I can go ham on Ceasar banner knowing there is nothing I like coming my way after Ceasar in the next months at least.
Definitely the best guide on Caesar.
Burnice or Ceasar?
I have jane and soldier 11(e1)
Burnice will be great for jane and ceaser would be great for S11 it depends who you wanna upgrade
Ave!
I'm seeing completely different kits shown by different people smh
Jane or caeser ?? Lost 50/50 on Jane to Soldier 11 already.
I recommend getting who you like more. Fun>> Meta always. But if you're talking about purely meta, I think that Caesar will be more helpful. You could pair her up with S11 and Lucy to make an amazing team. Jane is a great DPS, but it's generally better to pull for supports.
But if you want Jane alot, get her. Having a strong team doesn't matter if you're not having fun. Whoever you end up getting, I wish you good luck!
@@Fropy127 yea i got ellen, grace, rina and m6 anby. So i kinda already got 2 teams s11, grace(m5 enton) or ellen.
@@Fropy127 thanks
I'd say save for Caesar. If you want to make the strongest disorder teams available once we get Burnice or other Burnice-like units for other elements, then Jane's a really good pick. But if you're not interested in disorder teams, or if you're willing to use Piper for a lower performance ceiling, Jane's a pretty safe skip imo.
But if you like Jane's playstyle/character or whatever more, she's a perfectly good pull and nothing to regret.
9:50 im sorry her engine is made by who?
Same shirt 😂
Is she got a nerf and he is not talking about it?
neither are you
I guess we´re not saving pulls.... again
game is already too easy since ZY banner, they keep releasing unbalanced braindead op 5* holy shi
I wonder what the chances are i can win two 50/50s straight..
25%
@@DarkKnight81732 sigh..
Nah I’d skip
Trickswordtrickroyalgunsword
broo.. shadow jane on shiyu??
God fricking dammit.. those attack strings are ridiculous
So... is Caesar best in slot for Ellen instead of Lycaon?
seems like it yes..
Some people say that its better to run ceaser and lycaon together than ceaser and soukaku
I want to know too
BiS for a lot more than just Ellen, my guy
@@imjhun not really. Lycagon is really busted . Lycagon+ Caesar is better in boss fights .
Atk% get diluted way too much
Semangat bg
Frami Plains
literally the zhong li of ZZZ
THE INTRO IS BACK 🎉🎉
Good luck getting 1000 atk at your lvl1 core. Lol.
Boar. Safe flight !