“wELsH iS bAcKwARdS”

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“wELsH iS bAcKwARdS”
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[@bandanaman]

Neither the Germanic nor the Celtic languages are descended from Latin, so Latin is irrelevant to this question.

[@DoctorCymraeg]

Not decended, but highly influenced by… I’m sure you’ll agree 👍

[@smergthedargon8974]

@@DoctorCymraeg Ehhhh, influenced, yes - but I'm pretty sure Latin didn't determine the adjective placement of non-Romance languages. English is probably the most Romance-influenced Germanic language... and it's still adjective-first, unlike all the actual Romance languages.

[@joalexsg9741]

As my mother tongue is Brazilian Portuguese I don't find anything strange about this postponing of the adjectives😇

[@RhapsodyinLingo]

Well statistically, English is backwards, because the theory is that SOV languages tend to go adjective-first (the most important part comes last), and SVO languages tend to go adjective-last (the most important part comes first). So who's the weird one now

[@Knappa22]

It’s english that’s silly. “The red car collided with the bollard at the junction.”
The least important word there (in a normal sentence) is the adjective. Yet it precedes the noun and, more bizarrely, the verb.

[@smergthedargon8974]

If you think that's silly, the most common word order in the world places the verb at the end of the sentence.

[@Knappa22]

@@smergthedargon8974 Well quite. Most people are silly!

[@larrydykes7643]

Agreed noun first not backwards at all. But how about a note listing the few adjectives that usually come first? There's "hen" of course, and "hoff" i think-- my old favorite examples. Any others? Are there times when the noun comes after any "ordinary" adjectives?

[@DoctorCymraeg]

Great shout! PRIF, AIL, HOFF, HEN, GWELL, GWAHANOL, et al can all precede nouns in Welsh. Using them *after* nouns can still be done, but it’s a little more ‘poetic’ to do so 👍

[@Knappa22]

@DoctorCymraeg haha! “Ymgyfodais y bore yma o’m pêr gwsg, a gwledda ar amryw flasus bethau o’m ysblennydd frecwast.”
Reit, cadair prifardd plîs!

[@DoctorCymraeg]

@@Knappa22 😂😂

[@DoctorCymraeg]

@@Knappa22 Cofia’r H ar HYSBLENNYDD yn dilyn ‘M 😉

[@KaiserMacCleg]

In addition to the few adjectives which usually precede the noun, it's a way of adding emphasis, right?
Ei arfwig euraid = His golden armour
Ei euraid arfwisg = His GOLDEN armour

[@mawkernewek]

Ni a wrug goryskynna Dewnans!

[@DoctorCymraeg]

🤦‍♂️😂😂😂😂

[@petertrevorah7689]

Yn hwir? Ny allav y grysi. Nyns yw Dewnens mar hir, yn neb kas - po dhe’m tybyans vy.

[@Carfree-Cities]

like "rode auto" in Dutch... :-(

[@DoctorCymraeg]

RODE AUTO is on that map… somewhere 😂

[@JenXOfficialEDM]

VSO languages are pretty common, no big deal. What gets me is when people hear a language they don't understand and they say it sounds like reverse speech. Um, yeah…no. Such ignorance. Mae dy fideo'n dda iawn. Helo o Efrog Newydd!