You run it in the live commentary, but probably worth mentioning this is best on assault class since the passives decrease reload & ADS time. I like the flash hider myself to extend the range but it requires more vertical recoil management, definitely a personal preference thing. Enjoying your content man, keep it up!
24:00 That was me! That was crazy from my perspective, felt like you were shooting me immediately. Peeker's advantage is strong. But looking back, I realize i was more exposed than i thought, GG legend
I'm trying to grind out other guns, but the Groza is my old reliable that I can always go back to when I'm getting too frustrated. There's always that one gun that just *feels* right to you, and this is mine. I really appreciate your videos, they help me rethink my playstyle :)
I feel like we're at the point now where we're going around in circles with the 'meta' weapons. I find myself coming back to the same handful of specific guns, while the rest sit on the sidelines, gathering dust.
Disagree. Obviously every gun can't be good, but with this past slew of balancing changes, the meta went from 1, maybe 3 guns up to... over 10? Most of the guns in the game have a place now. If you feel like you are going in circles, that is on you. The vector used to be broken, now it's great but not insane. The fal is great but 2.3 horizontal is too much for anybody. Honey badger and val both used to be insane, then got put into the dirt, and are now great guns. SMG meta is gone but SMGs aren't. m4, hk, g36c, ak5c, and groza are all 4-shot masterpieces. each one is incredible for its own reason. Each has a weakness and it truly depends on playstyle now. If you feel like you're going in circles, that's probably more so because you found a few guns that fit you best-- not because only a few guns are actually good.
@@-The-Golden-God- I didn't miss the point. You think a tiny few weapons are overpowered every update and I am saying that they all serve a purpose now and may be good but are not perfect for every situation, like old vector was for example.
Awesome video as always MrWong! Its kinda funny, a few minutes before you did a post-com about asking if we mind announcing the post-com, I was already seeing the comments about that and started to think about different ways to go about it. Im sure there's a common RUclips way of doing it, but perhaps a intuitive approach? You're already doing it really, but just a step further so the view kinda knows its post without saying it, say a color filter change, or a slight speed change? Something small thats noticeable, with like the red recording light and Post-Wong txt, idk just ideas. 😂😁
In my Oppinion the Grozas biggest disadvantage is the loud distinct sound of it. makes flanking really hard because the whole battlefield knows where you are as your sound doesnt blend in with the other guns shooting...
The recoil on this gun is so tame that this is one of the few guns where I always run a suppressor. I run it on the Assault class - specifically with a grapple hook. It is an excellent gun for flanking, it can still hold it's own on a head-to-head firefight, and the suppressor means you're less likely to get jumped while reloading.
Instantly I think your assessment is accurate. Its a very strong gun with obvious downsides that IMO outcompetes most SMGs minus the MP7 due to it them having better range while retaining good general stats
surprised you didn't compare this to the ump. after the ump changes it's very similar to groza given that it works best up close. has a 25 round reload instead of 30 but reloads much faster due to 2 reload attachments. I'm already an ak5c user but if I want to have a 3 BTK gun for a close range map I go with ump over groza every time now.
I'd see the Groza being more comparable to the UMP for varios reason, starters stats wise the guns are very similar, UMP boasting a faster MS and reload speed, some even going to mention that it was a Groza killer or a CQC Groza, but I digress. It's fair you comparable to the FAL or other 3 shot guns, because realistically it makes sense, it's a 3 shot gun that excels at various areas but not one single area, compared to other 3 shots that excel really well at something.
i kinda late for p90 but after the first two kills, it’s shred ngl still have to do 100 kills with markman rifle for that x4 xp i kinda get annoyed by how m110 can two shot across the map but guess i have to deal fire with fire update: well hitreg still there so sometime every guns just don't want to hit except sniper
The reload speed just kills it for me Great dps and recoil but might as well take a nap after dumping a mag Also if you used fal and were disappointed, you used it wrong, that thing is nuts
Gamers have changed I think, the general play style for the newer gen of fps players I've found is more submissive and defensive. I know a majority of the "older" gamers mid 20s to 30s tend to be more aggressive and push.
I think its etting harder and harder to say, but I still believe that the FAL is one of the top, I also believe the AS VAL is pretty good too, big fan of val off camera
The best gun in the game is 100% the FAL. You also have to keep in mind that a lot of players who are not in the top echelon of the skill gap will strongly believe a gun is bad because it is hard to use. Don’t believe the meta hype every time. But yeah the AS Val is a fantastic gun for straight deathmatching.
for conq m110, Fal, HK419, MP7 P90 and UMP, for frontline all smgs really and fal. I dont like saying these are teh best guns though just becasue for alot of players the benefits of these guns are negligible, really the best gun is whatever you preform best with :)
Hey can you make a video guide on how to use buildable cover? I feel like it's extremely underutilized since most people come from a traditional fps background.
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You run it in the live commentary, but probably worth mentioning this is best on assault class since the passives decrease reload & ADS time. I like the flash hider myself to extend the range but it requires more vertical recoil management, definitely a personal preference thing.
Enjoying your content man, keep it up!
Thank you very much! I cant believe I forgot to mention the assault thing, I defo will in the next one
Groza was the gun I used to get to rank 100 back when medic was the only decent class. I really like it but wish it had more unlocks and attachments
agreed!
24:00 That was me! That was crazy from my perspective, felt like you were shooting me immediately. Peeker's advantage is strong. But looking back, I realize i was more exposed than i thought, GG legend
GG to you too! I love your ingame name btw!
I'm trying to grind out other guns, but the Groza is my old reliable that I can always go back to when I'm getting too frustrated. There's always that one gun that just *feels* right to you, and this is mine. I really appreciate your videos, they help me rethink my playstyle :)
I feel like we're at the point now where we're going around in circles with the 'meta' weapons. I find myself coming back to the same handful of specific guns, while the rest sit on the sidelines, gathering dust.
Disagree. Obviously every gun can't be good, but with this past slew of balancing changes, the meta went from 1, maybe 3 guns up to... over 10? Most of the guns in the game have a place now. If you feel like you are going in circles, that is on you. The vector used to be broken, now it's great but not insane. The fal is great but 2.3 horizontal is too much for anybody. Honey badger and val both used to be insane, then got put into the dirt, and are now great guns. SMG meta is gone but SMGs aren't. m4, hk, g36c, ak5c, and groza are all 4-shot masterpieces. each one is incredible for its own reason. Each has a weakness and it truly depends on playstyle now. If you feel like you're going in circles, that's probably more so because you found a few guns that fit you best-- not because only a few guns are actually good.
@@skimaskthetapgod8126 That might be the single most 'touch grass' comment I've ever read. It also completely missed the point.
@@-The-Golden-God- I didn't miss the point. You think a tiny few weapons are overpowered every update and I am saying that they all serve a purpose now and may be good but are not perfect for every situation, like old vector was for example.
@@skimaskthetapgod8126 Yup, that's a hard /whoosh
@@-The-Golden-God- yikes
I haven't use this gun, but i'm loving the live commentary tbh, great video Mr Wong :)
thank you very much :)
Awesome video as always MrWong! Its kinda funny, a few minutes before you did a post-com about asking if we mind announcing the post-com, I was already seeing the comments about that and started to think about different ways to go about it. Im sure there's a common RUclips way of doing it, but perhaps a intuitive approach? You're already doing it really, but just a step further so the view kinda knows its post without saying it, say a color filter change, or a slight speed change? Something small thats noticeable, with like the red recording light and Post-Wong txt, idk just ideas. 😂😁
love the red light idea!
that play at 2:40 tickled my fiddle
I love watching vids about the gun break down. Great video!
In my Oppinion the Grozas biggest disadvantage is the loud distinct sound of it. makes flanking really hard because the whole battlefield knows where you are as your sound doesnt blend in with the other guns shooting...
I never thought of using the slip on the groza, interesting! Plz continue your awesome vids!
I try to aim at their feet before unloading because of that huge kick. And the FLIR first shot is off the charts (literally)
The recoil on this gun is so tame that this is one of the few guns where I always run a suppressor. I run it on the Assault class - specifically with a grapple hook. It is an excellent gun for flanking, it can still hold it's own on a head-to-head firefight, and the suppressor means you're less likely to get jumped while reloading.
I love the way you give the informations on a weapon. Continue like that, and I really hope you'll get the viewers
Thank you very much!
Instantly I think your assessment is accurate. Its a very strong gun with obvious downsides that IMO outcompetes most SMGs minus the MP7 due to it them having better range while retaining good general stats
this is my fav gun, just feels good to use and hits hard af
Please do a video on the AK5C. Always enjoy your builds and tips
I like the cut at 5:40 good video!
Really enjoying the little bits of editing in the gameplay. Got a little giggle out of me at 4:23.
hahaha thank you so much
i like the simpler attachment visual its easier to see
NOOO STOP
I keep having to die to this gun when I'm trying to use literally any other gun that doesn't shoot fast
groza is crazy, i wouldnt say its the best weapon but it defo shreds
Absolutely butt in😂 you’re the boss wong
Been consistently a top 5 for me. 2nd highest kills on it and pretty much 1 tricked it until I unlocked the mp5
surprised you didn't compare this to the ump. after the ump changes it's very similar to groza given that it works best up close. has a 25 round reload instead of 30 but reloads much faster due to 2 reload attachments. I'm already an ak5c user but if I want to have a 3 BTK gun for a close range map I go with ump over groza every time now.
oh yeah that is very true, I think in the vid I didnt because of its damage nerf, but even still its defo in the same range
Groza! Interesting! Groza was my bf4 main haha.
The Ak74 is my personal favorite, but the Groza seems to do more damage at a longer distance. Probably a feeling vs fact.
To answer your question about editor's post commentary, I think you really don't need to mention it.
Mr Wong!
I noticed your game does not stutter when you bring up the scoreboard. Even without organise by squad enabled.
What are your PC specs?
it does lag out :( just not every time
1080 gpu and i7770k cpu dont know the rest sorry :(
I am eating skittles
skidews :3
WARFRAME WARFRAME TIME :) 6:19
Kill 4 enemies with a single spray at long distance, then proceed to miss a mine lol
hahaha
My mans just reaming out vids lately.
you know it, I normally do daily uploads but I have been a bit slack past wek
Who is Chuck and why does he want me to like him?
PS: Me like Groza
I improve piano over your videos and dream of riot shield DMR/C4 Phalanx.
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Thanks goose :)
i revived you the other day!
I'd see the Groza being more comparable to the UMP for varios reason, starters stats wise the guns are very similar, UMP boasting a faster MS and reload speed, some even going to mention that it was a Groza killer or a CQC Groza, but I digress. It's fair you comparable to the FAL or other 3 shot guns, because realistically it makes sense, it's a 3 shot gun that excels at various areas but not one single area, compared to other 3 shots that excel really well at something.
i kinda late for p90 but after the first two kills, it’s shred ngl
still have to do 100 kills with markman rifle for that x4 xp
i kinda get annoyed by how m110 can two shot across the map but guess i have to deal fire with fire
update: well hitreg still there so sometime every guns just don't want to hit except sniper
But also butter
The reload speed just kills it for me
Great dps and recoil but might as well take a nap after dumping a mag
Also if you used fal and were disappointed, you used it wrong, that thing is nuts
hahaha
I’m a Groza enjoyer, I don’t think it’s the best, but I will stand by that it’s the most brain dead.
hahaha
somehow today i ranked up from 137 to 141 in under 2 minutes, idk if that was the xp from weekly or xp bug but well
Gamers have changed I think, the general play style for the newer gen of fps players I've found is more submissive and defensive. I know a majority of the "older" gamers mid 20s to 30s tend to be more aggressive and push.
So what do you think the best gun in the game is currently?, I believe it is the AS VAL.
I think its etting harder and harder to say, but I still believe that the FAL is one of the top, I also believe the AS VAL is pretty good too, big fan of val off camera
The best gun in the game is 100% the FAL. You also have to keep in mind that a lot of players who are not in the top echelon of the skill gap will strongly believe a gun is bad because it is hard to use. Don’t believe the meta hype every time. But yeah the AS Val is a fantastic gun for straight deathmatching.
Whenver u be in my game I’m like yoooo mr wong
Why do you have so many mags? how you increase it
ranger vest in the character menu
ah man thanks for making the video
:D
So then what do you think IS the best gun in the game?
I guarantee he would say FAL/HK419/UMP45
for conq m110, Fal, HK419, MP7 P90 and UMP, for frontline all smgs really and fal. I dont like saying these are teh best guns though just becasue for alot of players the benefits of these guns are negligible, really the best gun is whatever you preform best with :)
I perform like ass with most guns lmao.@@tonomrwong
It's GrozA not GrOza, dude! Still waiting updated tier list
Hey can you make a video guide on how to use buildable cover? I feel like it's extremely underutilized since most people come from a traditional fps background.
yeah for sure :)