Quick observation. When adjusting rack make sure that the wheels are in marginal position (turn the wheels to max) in this position you have least amount of wear on shaft, you will avoid problems with stiff steering wheel this way.
I came down to comments to say this. The wheel play is because the actual rack and the pinion are worn down from new spec. it will always be worse in the center because most of the steering systems life is spent making the car go straight. Doing what you suggest and setting the preload lash tension at full right or left lock will ensure that you still have good clearance in the center, as opposed to doing the opposite which can make your steering lock up when you get more angle in it. and cause the wheels to not naturally self center when coming out of a turn.
@@fakiirificationI put a new rack in my daughter's pickup and it has play. Are you guys saying I should turn the wheel all the way one way or the other before I do this or with the rack being new should I leave it centered
Great info bud!! Word to the wise on this, always always always put some amount of relief in the tension “Back off the bolt” once it gets tight. It is critical that there is some amount of play, even if it’s only quarter of a linear inch along the circumference of the the steering wheel. If it’s too tight, you risk burning up your pump and wearing out the nylon preload bushing, overheating it which could cause catastrophic failure while driving, with almost no steering available!
Yes. It's those nylon end bushings that have worn to create this issue in the first place. You don't want to make them worse by putting a load on them. Hopefully people have enough finesse to feel the difference between removing the slack vs. creating tension.
Thank you, sir. I have taken my car to a mechanic and he recommends a new steering rack which will cost about $500, while your info did solve the problem. I can't thank you enough
if your car has this, you do need a new rack. adjusting gear lash like this is a bandaid that will hold you for a while, but to properly fix it you do need a new steering rack. Easy DIY on most cars, just need to get an alignment done afterward.
I have been almost replace the universal joint/coupling since I have mistaken it as the culprit of vast steering wheel clearance. Thanks guy for the tip, now I will work it out without spending a single penny. 👍
Great information! I'm an old fart and am used to steering wheel play, haven't owned a rig newer than a 1977 for years, now I have a 99 subaru, steering always had some play, but I didn't think it excessive. Today it went pop and the wheel is now 90° off, thought it was a bad tierod, nope every thing is solid. Got to looking and didn't recognize any of the steering components, never owned a rack and pinion steering before, so here I sit learning , who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks 👍👍
great VID, any mechanic will tell you that your rack got to be regenerated seeing that play BUT all that takes is the adjustable screw to get the play OUT, this is why the screw is there!!! GREAT thanks for the vid, thumbs UP!!!
I went to three different shops and they all told me the same thing. Tightened nut, noise is gone. Why do they do that? Is there a very good reason why you shouldn't adjust this? As the car ages, it will eventually require tightening due to the teeth getting worn down right? Presumably that is why they put the adjustment there?
Mechanic shops also have to warranty the labor they did. If they tighten a nut and end up retightening it 4 times and then you still have to replace the rack its on them or its bad customer service. If they condemn the rack they dont have to deal with the headache that is old ass cars falling apart. And putting a new part on they can blame mazda or the source the rack came from
Awesome video. I'll be doing this to my 06 Ram. The previous owner had a manufactured rack and all 4 ball joints installed. I recently replaced both inner and outer tie rods because they reused those. After getting an alignment done I noticed the play still there and narrowed it down to this.
I was suffering this play in my Honda civic 92, according to the service manual the play should not exceed 5 mm, I was having like 25 mm play, and I just tightened the what so called "Rack screw" that go inside to push on the rack & I solved it.. firm and rigid steering feel again ... Thanks for the video
Excellent video man. This helped me find my play issue in my Mark 8. I was drifting a Miata for some time before. I miss mine. I hope you are doing well man. THank you!
I recently re built the rack (seals went bad leaked all over) and couldn't figure out why a rebuilt rack had so much play, spent over an hour at a renown race alignment shop going over it, had just put in new ball joints on all the front corners. Decided it was wear and tear among the suspension (24 year old car), going to try this next time i'm at the warehouse. Thanks for the video.
As a fellow Maxima enthusiast, that's cool to hear. My wife and I have both owned 4th gen Maximas, and her current daily is a full bolt-on 5th gen 20th anniversary.
My civic steering has the exact same issue. I done some research and there is a similar method to adjust the rack. My mechanic told me the steering is fine and to not worry but its my car and I know that it is not feeling right so I will try this myself.
Definitely. That's an important detail. I used very little tension. Just enough to remove the slack between the gears. Once the gears were fully meshed, I backed off a little to make sure there was no load on the bushings inside the rack, which would certainly accelerate wear.
There is a somewhat similar bolt on our 2012 Infiniti G37 RWD that looks like a drain plug. Power steering fluid was leaking out ( car actually uses ATF for the steering gear ). the steering has always been loose feeling since we got the car in august of '23 with 81k on it. I tightened the bolt up now the steering is much tighter, almost too tight. The fluid resovior was low, so I topped it off and the steering got less tight, but still tighter than it was before for sure.
That's amazing, gonna have to try this on mine soon. And damn, I am quite jelly of that lift, meanwhile I'm here with a jack that won't fit under mine ;(
Awesome ty I was thinking I needed to replace the dang thing so I checked on here first to see if it could be adjusted so ty for this video it helped alot !!!
Thanks. I believe your C10 has a steering box, which is a bit different from the rack and pinion setup shown here, but it should still have a preload adjustment.
@@bryanmurphy26 Thanks for the reply I have installed a Uni Steer rack n Pinion on my c10 this why I reached out it have about a 1/2 " of lose play in the steering wheel
Man I was at my wits end went bout new control and tie rods from eBay notice still my steering was way off even paid $79.00 for a front end alignment to no avail the tire alignment guy even did it over again free he was able to straighten my crooked steering wheel use a computer system but he discovered that my rack needed replacement or something was missing and I found that little piece in my drive on the ground that adjusts the pressure somehow it came out due a fail also I was quoted anywhere from $1300 to $1700 to replace the rack and that’s with me supplying my own new one hell to the naw I’m glad I came across your video man many thanks ❤😂
Almost like you do a gear box. I replaced my rag / ujoint shaft on my steering couming and it got loose. I tried as carefully as I could to remove it but had to use the hammer ever so slightly to remove the joint from the shaft of the rack. So now to try this out. Had luck with gear boxes on rear wheel drive cars before. You just couldn't adjust them too much or it get worse.
Thanks for posting this video. Had a similar issue on a car a long time ago and nobody knew how to fix. There is no info in this out there. Know I know if it ever happens again. Appreciate the info.
MX5DoEtRick27 Lmk how it works out. My car drove so much better when I drove it home that night. 3 weeks later, I'm starting to feel a little play in the steering coming back though. It might be worth taking the adjuster out and greasing the part that slides on the rack.
MX5DoEtRick27 Good to hear. I ordered a new rack for mine. My rack has to work pretty hard due to having chopped knuckles for drifting. I'm sure that contributed to the wear on the gears.
Bryan Miata that adjustment made a big difference man, you ordered a new one? That’s awesome man, if you could please post a vid in how to. Thanks again man.
keep in mind that this is a temporary fix. If you have steering play like this not caused by a guibo or other shaft joint in your steering system. your power or manual steering rack is clapped and will need to be replaced sooner rather than later. you can get a few more years of normal driving out of it by doing this but it will not feel like new unless you put a new one in.
Awesome info. Is this adjustment only valid for cars with hydraulic power steering, or does this adjustment exist on electronic power steering cars as well?
Before you do anything, have someone crank the wheel back and forth while you're under there. That much play will be very visible. Look at the steering shaft going into the rack. Check to see if it is rotating without moving the tie rods. Also check the bushings in the rack mounts, and check your control arm bushings and ball joints.
Thanks. You shouldn't feel any increase or decrease in steering effort. An increase in effort would mean there's too much preload. The feedback should be better though, if you've removed significant play.
@@bryanmurphy26 i just finished testing. I guess mine was pretty tight, it was returning to center but with no effort. Now i lossen it like turn and a half and it still returns but with way more feedback. Again thanks for the info !!!
im trying to do this on a 2011 ram 1500 but cant find a nut or bolt big enough its around 27mm side to side went to home depot auto zone and a couple shops no one had a tool, nut, bolt, for me. Any ideas?
If you don't have a massive collection of used bolts like I do, you can always just order the tool. Ebay has some. www.ebay.com/itm/311349710191?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=W_iLMeQqQKy&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=vdrAQBdZTzG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Same Problem on my rack. 95 with ps. 111k miles. I cant adjust it tho. I have almost 2 finger widths of play on my steering wheel. When i try to adjust the preload the wheel just gets stuck. But the steering was fine like 10k miles ago. And its not tie rods or tie rod ends. So i think its the pinion Gear itself?
Mine eventually got as bad as yours is now. Turned out the passenger side boot had a little tear in it on the top side, where I couldn't see it. It had allowed the boot to fill up with water. So my rack got super rusty. Your pinion gear could be worn, or your bushings could be bad. For me, I decided to just throw a new one in there. I made an update video where I showed what was wrong here: ruclips.net/video/WMCBZpX8fxY/видео.html
I assume this works by jerking the wheel side to side in the air also. If tie rods have no play, wheel bearing is solid and you get side to side play, or is this adjustment just for the steering wheel play
Will this stiffen up the steering. I replaced the rack but during windy conditions on the interstate I'm white knuckling. It rolls straight but steering feels like it's way to easy to turn.
My car got this weird clunk when cornering to the right. The noise coming from the left side. Was about to order new tie rod end when I felt like I need to play with the steering a bit. Sounds exactly like this.
I would suggest you visually confirm where the play is before you start throwing money at it or making adjustments. In this case I could see that the steering shaft was rotating a good amount before I was getting any side to side movement from the rack.
@@bryanmurphy26 ball joints are new. tie rod end looks solid. new cv axle. sway bar bushing replaced. parked the car and tried to move the steering, feels like it has more play than it should and the same clunk can be heard comes from inside left steering rack boot. nothing else moves. at this point i'm practically replacing all the front suspension.
Was there any play in your wheel holding at 9 and 3? I have quite a bit on both sides, swore it was inner tie rods but both sides inner and outer are tight. The play I am feeling is in the rack somewhere. Apparently you cant adjust that screw on this vintage of honda without a special tool. I'd really rather not put a new rack in this car lol.
Give this post on honda tech a quick read. This guy lists the part number for the Honda tool, and he said it took care of all his slack. honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-6/steering-rack-adjustment-best-thing-i-ever-did-2572614/
Nothing wrong with that. Adjusting it will buy you some time on worn bushings, but having all new bushings, seals, and inner tie rods is even better. 👌
That is a first for me, never knew about this til I saw your video. I replaced inner and outer tie rods on a 2015 toyota corolla and still had issues with it. Was about to go for the intermediate shaft next but i will try this first. What purpose does this bolt serve? Would it be on other vehicles as well?
It basically just moves the pinion gear closer to the teeth it meshes with on the rack. Confirm this is the issue before adding preload. Have someone move the wheel back and forth within the range of the slop, while you look to see were the motion stops. For example, if the steering shaft is moving right and left without any motion at the inner tie rods, then the rack may be able to benefit from a little more pre load. Only add as much as you need to remove the play. If you add more than you need, it will start to put pressure on the bushings, which can shorten the life of the bushings and seals. Also, don't forget to check your ball joints, control arm bushings, and your wheel bearings.
Bryan, on my car, my mechanic said that the pre-load adjuster has maxed out. Im wondering what would cause it to be adjusted until it can't be adjusted any more? Can the nut itself be replaced or does it mean the steering rack needs to be replaced with a new one which is very costly? I got a used Honda Stream 2012 and I'm really wondering what will cause the pre-load adjust knob to be maxed out yet the vehicle isn't very old?
Hi Jack. It is possible for the internal bushings to become so worn that you can't obtain proper preload. It is a common issue with your Honda's electric power steering rack. Some people rebuild them with more durable aftermarket bushings that won't fail prematurely as the the stock ones tend to do. Maybe you can have you mechanic look into this solution.
What the F@#%!!!you are soo slick man.wow.i thought i seen it all.thats great using a nut as a tool.who has a hex that big? great job man.hats off to you.great job
Quick observation. When adjusting rack make sure that the wheels are in marginal position (turn the wheels to max) in this position you have least amount of wear on shaft, you will avoid problems with stiff steering wheel this way.
Ok. That's a good suggestion.
I came down to comments to say this. The wheel play is because the actual rack and the pinion are worn down from new spec. it will always be worse in the center because most of the steering systems life is spent making the car go straight. Doing what you suggest and setting the preload lash tension at full right or left lock will ensure that you still have good clearance in the center, as opposed to doing the opposite which can make your steering lock up when you get more angle in it. and cause the wheels to not naturally self center when coming out of a turn.
@@fakiirificationI put a new rack in my daughter's pickup and it has play. Are you guys saying I should turn the wheel all the way one way or the other before I do this or with the rack being new should I leave it centered
@@timothybuchanan662yes that’s exactly what they’re saying
@@jacobsanchez2860 the one I installed is " new" ( remanufactured I think) but I guess it probably still applies
after a long search on the internet i have finally solved my problem with your video, thanks so much for this video, its simply well explained
Great info bud!! Word to the wise on this, always always always put some amount of relief in the tension “Back off the bolt” once it gets tight. It is critical that there is some amount of play, even if it’s only quarter of a linear inch along the circumference of the the steering wheel. If it’s too tight, you risk burning up your pump and wearing out the nylon preload bushing, overheating it which could cause catastrophic failure while driving, with almost no steering available!
Yes. It's those nylon end bushings that have worn to create this issue in the first place. You don't want to make them worse by putting a load on them. Hopefully people have enough finesse to feel the difference between removing the slack vs. creating tension.
Thank you, sir. I have taken my car to a mechanic and he recommends a new steering rack which will cost about $500, while your info did solve the problem. I can't thank you enough
Here too they charge me for new R3000 so this give me best to do it myself
At least you had the common sense to look for more info... I can still count myself kinda lucky I only paid $50 for a used one ...
It blows my mind how many people have probably replaced racks in various cars that were otherwise good and just in need of adjustment.
I am having to get a new steering rack in my Miata it’s leaking…ugh $1,500. I don’t have the tools or know how to venture that job!
if your car has this, you do need a new rack. adjusting gear lash like this is a bandaid that will hold you for a while, but to properly fix it you do need a new steering rack. Easy DIY on most cars, just need to get an alignment done afterward.
thanks for the video, surprisingly little information about this out there,
Nice
Cuz they want ya to spend your money to buy a new rack and pinion
I have been almost replace the universal joint/coupling since I have mistaken it as the culprit of vast steering wheel clearance. Thanks guy for the tip, now I will work it out without spending a single penny. 👍
Best video yet regarding rack and pinion diagnosing and adjustments. There are not many videos out there.
dude youre a life saver! Picked up a 94 the other day with a quarter wheel turn play lol.
Awesome video man. I just adjusted my Lincoln Town Car's rack. What a difference now. Tight, like a new car. Thank You!!
Great information! I'm an old fart and am used to steering wheel play, haven't owned a rig newer than a 1977 for years, now I have a 99 subaru, steering always had some play, but I didn't think it excessive. Today it went pop and the wheel is now 90° off, thought it was a bad tierod, nope every thing is solid. Got to looking and didn't recognize any of the steering components, never owned a rack and pinion steering before, so here I sit learning , who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks 👍👍
great VID, any mechanic will tell you that your rack got to be regenerated seeing that play BUT all that takes is the adjustable screw to get the play OUT, this is why the screw is there!!! GREAT thanks for the vid, thumbs UP!!!
I went to three different shops and they all told me the same thing. Tightened nut, noise is gone.
Why do they do that? Is there a very good reason why you shouldn't adjust this?
As the car ages, it will eventually require tightening due to the teeth getting worn down right? Presumably that is why they put the adjustment there?
Mechanic shops also have to warranty the labor they did. If they tighten a nut and end up retightening it 4 times and then you still have to replace the rack its on them or its bad customer service. If they condemn the rack they dont have to deal with the headache that is old ass cars falling apart. And putting a new part on they can blame mazda or the source the rack came from
That has to be the coolest exit sequence i have ever seen. love ur miata
I had a similar problem. My mechanic advised me to do the same thing! Great video for a no cost solution!
Awesome video. I'll be doing this to my 06 Ram. The previous owner had a manufactured rack and all 4 ball joints installed. I recently replaced both inner and outer tie rods because they reused those. After getting an alignment done I noticed the play still there and narrowed it down to this.
I was suffering this play in my Honda civic 92, according to the service manual the play should not exceed 5 mm, I was having like 25 mm play, and I just tightened the what so called "Rack screw" that go inside to push on the rack & I solved it.. firm and rigid steering feel again ... Thanks for the video
Glad to hear it!👍👍👍
Finally I've been looking for this video for like an hour. Thank you!!
THANKS! Exactly what I was looking for. PROBLEM SOLVED
Excellent video man.
This helped me find my play issue in my Mark 8.
I was drifting a Miata for some time before. I miss mine.
I hope you are doing well man. THank you!
I recently re built the rack (seals went bad leaked all over) and couldn't figure out why a rebuilt rack had so much play, spent over an hour at a renown race alignment shop going over it, had just put in new ball joints on all the front corners. Decided it was wear and tear among the suspension (24 year old car), going to try this next time i'm at the warehouse. Thanks for the video.
I kinda had a similar experience. Did all new ball joints, inner and outer tie rods before I noticed the rack had some play.
Never knew about this until it was shared in the 4th gen Maxima community, favorited this video, thank you sir!
As a fellow Maxima enthusiast, that's cool to hear. My wife and I have both owned 4th gen Maximas, and her current daily is a full bolt-on 5th gen 20th anniversary.
My civic steering has the exact same issue. I done some research and there is a similar method to adjust the rack. My mechanic told me the steering is fine and to not worry but its my car and I know that it is not feeling right so I will try this myself.
My father thought I was crazy for telling him this exists. Thanks for the proof!
Haha. Stick it to him😄
Thank you! I’ve asked a lot of mechanics and none of them answered this one.
they want to keep getting paid. lol
Thanks man, It worked! 2000 Honda Civic here
Thanks for the video. I have been trying to locate the adjustment nut on my car. Found it finally 👍
Great vid Bryan, if i could just add, being careful not to over-tighten the adjustment nut as it can result in a bent rack that wont self centre...
Definitely. That's an important detail. I used very little tension. Just enough to remove the slack between the gears. Once the gears were fully meshed, I backed off a little to make sure there was no load on the bushings inside the rack, which would certainly accelerate wear.
@Charlie Harper did you loosen it
There is a somewhat similar bolt on our 2012 Infiniti G37 RWD that looks like a drain plug. Power steering fluid was leaking out ( car actually uses ATF for the steering gear ). the steering has always been loose feeling since we got the car in august of '23 with 81k on it. I tightened the bolt up now the steering is much tighter, almost too tight. The fluid resovior was low, so I topped it off and the steering got less tight, but still tighter than it was before for sure.
Bro thank you for posting this. I CAN NOTTTTT find this anywhere. Hopefully my car has this nut to tighten to get rid of the slack
This is exactly what was wrong with my 96, huge thanks.
this is not what was wrong with my 96. My rack and pinion is missing a tooth, but this helped curb the wobble that it causes in the wheels.
Thank you for the video!
I'm going to try and do this on my '99 ES300! 🤞🏽
That's amazing, gonna have to try this on mine soon.
And damn, I am quite jelly of that lift, meanwhile I'm here with a jack that won't fit under mine ;(
Awesome ty I was thinking I needed to replace the dang thing so I checked on here first to see if it could be adjusted so ty for this video it helped alot !!!
Great video , I can't wait to adjust my 02 Acura MDX .Thank so much for your video
Great video I just completed the restoration on my c10 and it has all new parts glad to know that the slack can be removed from the steering
Thanks. I believe your C10 has a steering box, which is a bit different from the rack and pinion setup shown here, but it should still have a preload adjustment.
@@bryanmurphy26 Thanks for the reply I have installed a Uni Steer rack n Pinion on my c10 this why I reached out it have about a 1/2 " of lose play in the steering wheel
nice,, you just helped me with mine! thanks a million
Thanks man this really sharpened the slop out of my 91 NA. Like everyone said, there is little info for a very common problem.
Awesome to hear! Glad it helped.
Thank you for this video. You a hero brother !
Thanks for watching!
Cheers dude, interesting video, you definitely learn something new everyday.
Seek and you shall find. I’ve been looking all over trying to figure out what the issue is. Thanks
It's an easy DIY, really thanks for a video...!
I finally have information to adjust all the play
Me 2 thanks a lot bro
Man I was at my wits end went bout new control and tie rods from eBay notice still my steering was way off even paid $79.00 for a front end alignment to no avail the tire alignment guy even did it over again free he was able to straighten my crooked steering wheel use a computer system but he discovered that my rack needed replacement or something was missing and I found that little piece in my drive on the ground that adjusts the pressure somehow it came out due a fail also I was quoted anywhere from $1300 to $1700 to replace the rack and that’s with me supplying my own new one hell to the naw I’m glad I came across your video man many thanks ❤😂
I definitely learned something today thank you
I needed that at the end of the video…. Love it 🔥
Almost like you do a gear box. I replaced my rag / ujoint shaft on my steering couming and it got loose. I tried as carefully as I could to remove it but had to use the hammer ever so slightly to remove the joint from the shaft of the rack. So now to try this out. Had luck with gear boxes on rear wheel drive cars before. You just couldn't adjust them too much or it get worse.
Yeah, it's definitely a sensitive adjustment. If it's too tight it will cause the bushings inside the rack to wear more quickly.
Gear box as in transmission or referring to rear diff? Do you happen have a video explaining by any chance?
That’s what I like a good video in detail keep up the good work!!
Appreciate this video. Could not find much about same issue.
Best ending to a video.
Thanks for this setting, my brother
Thanks for posting this video. Had a similar issue on a car a long time ago and nobody knew how to fix. There is no info in this out there. Know I know if it ever happens again. Appreciate the info.
thanks for the video, my Z is having the same exactly issue.
Did it work ? My Bmw Z3 started doing the same after an aligment... freaking shop said there was nothing that could be done 🤔
@@sinnombre5466 yea it worked
Thanks for the upload, that’s exactly the same problem I have on my miata. Thank you
MX5DoEtRick27 Lmk how it works out. My car drove so much better when I drove it home that night. 3 weeks later, I'm starting to feel a little play in the steering coming back though. It might be worth taking the adjuster out and greasing the part that slides on the rack.
Bryan Miata I actually made the adjustment like you said it made the car much much better to drive, thanks man!!
MX5DoEtRick27 Good to hear. I ordered a new rack for mine. My rack has to work pretty hard due to having chopped knuckles for drifting. I'm sure that contributed to the wear on the gears.
Bryan Miata that adjustment made a big difference man, you ordered a new one? That’s awesome man, if you could please post a vid in how to. Thanks again man.
MX5DoEtRick27 I'll definitely video the install.
you save my life Sir....thanx alot.
you sir. is a lifesaver! THANK YOU
My '72 240Z needs this done too. thanks.
Thanks for the help working great on my car Chevy cobalt
Awesome video, thanks!!
that was my problem with my bmw e36,
thanks man!
Good video. I need to try this on my Audi
keep in mind that this is a temporary fix. If you have steering play like this not caused by a guibo or other shaft joint in your steering system. your power or manual steering rack is clapped and will need to be replaced sooner rather than later. you can get a few more years of normal driving out of it by doing this but it will not feel like new unless you put a new one in.
gracias me salvaste de hacer un gran gasto
Hey Bro, I do have some play in a Toyota Sienna. I will try to see if this would work on it. I will get back with comments. Thnks for the tip.
Its definitely worth a shot if you've already checked the other usual suspects.
Awesome, thanks for explaining this.
Excellent video!
Awesome info. Is this adjustment only valid for cars with hydraulic power steering, or does this adjustment exist on electronic power steering cars as well?
I've never gotten my hands on anything with electric power steering, so I couldn't say.
Nice
Bravo ! thank you for the info even though i own VW Golf mk4 but it is hell useful !
This helped a ton. Have the same issue with my legend
Great to hear. Keep the legend alive!
Thanks for uploading. Should be the fix for mine!
Thank a lot very helpful bro 🙏 👍
Just replaced all inner and outer on my 00 civic, STILL had 1-2in play in steering wheel. going to try this and hope it helps.
Before you do anything, have someone crank the wheel back and forth while you're under there. That much play will be very visible. Look at the steering shaft going into the rack. Check to see if it is rotating without moving the tie rods. Also check the bushings in the rack mounts, and check your control arm bushings and ball joints.
@@bryanmurphy26 thank you, i will do that!
You just saved me a shit ton of cash !!!
solid video, doing god's work
Haha, thanks!
this solved my problem! I love you
your steering has no play now or is it just a short term solution?
Hi bro thank you are a life saver 🙏
very good video
Much obliged
I need to do this to my pt cruiser...
your GENIUS!! thank u
Informative video, thanks. 420th like!!! haha
Awesome tutorial ! Does adjusting the preload on the rack increases or decreases "force feedback"
Lexus is200 99'
Thanks. You shouldn't feel any increase or decrease in steering effort. An increase in effort would mean there's too much preload. The feedback should be better though, if you've removed significant play.
@@bryanmurphy26 i just finished testing. I guess mine was pretty tight, it was returning to center but with no effort. Now i lossen it like turn and a half and it still returns but with way more feedback. Again thanks for the info !!!
Good video 💪🏿
Thank you soooo much! I actually have the oem tool for that👌🏻🤙🏻
Cool, I'll have to look that up.
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Hello from the USA. 🙋♂️
im trying to do this on a 2011 ram 1500 but cant find a nut or bolt big enough its around 27mm side to side went to home depot auto zone and a couple shops no one had a tool, nut, bolt, for me. Any ideas?
If you don't have a massive collection of used bolts like I do, you can always just order the tool. Ebay has some. www.ebay.com/itm/311349710191?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=W_iLMeQqQKy&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=vdrAQBdZTzG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Same Problem on my rack. 95 with ps. 111k miles. I cant adjust it tho. I have almost 2 finger widths of play on my steering wheel. When i try to adjust the preload the wheel just gets stuck. But the steering was fine like 10k miles ago. And its not tie rods or tie rod ends. So i think its the pinion Gear itself?
Mine eventually got as bad as yours is now. Turned out the passenger side boot had a little tear in it on the top side, where I couldn't see it. It had allowed the boot to fill up with water. So my rack got super rusty.
Your pinion gear could be worn, or your bushings could be bad. For me, I decided to just throw a new one in there. I made an update video where I showed what was wrong here: ruclips.net/video/WMCBZpX8fxY/видео.html
Can't pull the jam nut n already rounded it.... help?
I assume this works by jerking the wheel side to side in the air also. If tie rods have no play, wheel bearing is solid and you get side to side play, or is this adjustment just for the steering wheel play
Will this stiffen up the steering. I replaced the rack but during windy conditions on the interstate I'm white knuckling. It rolls straight but steering feels like it's way to easy to turn.
My car got this weird clunk when cornering to the right. The noise coming from the left side. Was about to order new tie rod end when I felt like I need to play with the steering a bit. Sounds exactly like this.
I would suggest you visually confirm where the play is before you start throwing money at it or making adjustments. In this case I could see that the steering shaft was rotating a good amount before I was getting any side to side movement from the rack.
@@bryanmurphy26 ball joints are new. tie rod end looks solid. new cv axle. sway bar bushing replaced. parked the car and tried to move the steering, feels like it has more play than it should and the same clunk can be heard comes from inside left steering rack boot. nothing else moves.
at this point i'm practically replacing all the front suspension.
Sounds like you're on the right track then. Check the inner tie rod joint under the boots too, if you haven't already.
Was there any play in your wheel holding at 9 and 3? I have quite a bit on both sides, swore it was inner tie rods but both sides inner and outer are tight. The play I am feeling is in the rack somewhere. Apparently you cant adjust that screw on this vintage of honda without a special tool. I'd really rather not put a new rack in this car lol.
Give this post on honda tech a quick read. This guy lists the part number for the Honda tool, and he said it took care of all his slack. honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-6/steering-rack-adjustment-best-thing-i-ever-did-2572614/
i just replace the whole rack. i wish i watched your video ahead of the replacement.
Nothing wrong with that. Adjusting it will buy you some time on worn bushings, but having all new bushings, seals, and inner tie rods is even better. 👌
That is a first for me, never knew about this til I saw your video. I replaced inner and outer tie rods on a 2015 toyota corolla and still had issues with it. Was about to go for the intermediate shaft next but i will try this first. What purpose does this bolt serve? Would it be on other vehicles as well?
It basically just moves the pinion gear closer to the teeth it meshes with on the rack. Confirm this is the issue before adding preload. Have someone move the wheel back and forth within the range of the slop, while you look to see were the motion stops. For example, if the steering shaft is moving right and left without any motion at the inner tie rods, then the rack may be able to benefit from a little more pre load. Only add as much as you need to remove the play. If you add more than you need, it will start to put pressure on the bushings, which can shorten the life of the bushings and seals. Also, don't forget to check your ball joints, control arm bushings, and your wheel bearings.
OMG THANKSSS DUDE
Thank you👍
Bryan, on my car, my mechanic said that the pre-load adjuster has maxed out. Im wondering what would cause it to be adjusted until it can't be adjusted any more? Can the nut itself be replaced or does it mean the steering rack needs to be replaced with a new one which is very costly? I got a used Honda Stream 2012 and I'm really wondering what will cause the pre-load adjust knob to be maxed out yet the vehicle isn't very old?
Hi Jack. It is possible for the internal bushings to become so worn that you can't obtain proper preload. It is a common issue with your Honda's electric power steering rack. Some people rebuild them with more durable aftermarket bushings that won't fail prematurely as the the stock ones tend to do. Maybe you can have you mechanic look into this solution.
What the F@#%!!!you are soo slick man.wow.i thought i seen it all.thats great using a nut as a tool.who has a hex that big? great job man.hats off to you.great job
Thanks man. We call that inventory engineering. 😂
Hey I know I’m 3 years late but did your car “sway” at all when you would drive it with this issue? Almost like the steering was loose
what size bolt did you use ?
I have a 2011 Ford F-150 xlt electrical power rack how can I find that on my?
I hope this work when i try it