@@michaelschmichael3973Well as luck would have it, simple reading comprehension as well as critical thinking can be addressed on some level without synthetics or herbal supplements. Whether through both, either or neither, it would be in your best interest either to reread the comment you replied to and reconsider your statement's relevance to it, review the portion that quote came from if need be, or maybe even encounter it for the first time in the event you did not already. It appears rather late in the video, but whatever the reason, your comment was either intended for another comment and posted here in error or are considerably confused.
I was a methamphetamine user for 22 years the worst thing was not getting enough sleep if you could sleep just a little bit, your body can handle it if you sleep
Thank you so much for this content Mr. Ham Man No one else is doing this stuff, you're one of the only ways I can feed my drug-related passions in podcast form
We left a rave, in downtown Atlanta circa 1999, around sunup. Walking back from the east side through Piedmont Park. Heading towards back GeorgiaTech/GeorgiaState. Let’s say about 2 miles, not tragically far, beautiful morning. But walking across the grass and slightly uphill. All basically died from lack of sugar, dehydration, and everything else probably mostly Ecstasy/Molly/“Coke”/Booze/BreakBeats. And then two girls with wings and cooler packs on their bags full of Red Bull showed up… I think they gave us 2 each, there were four of us. I hope the others think of that morning sometimes, I know I do. 🧚
Hey I just wanted to thank you Hamilton for being a pioneer in this world I’ve been listening to you for years and just wanted to thank you for your work and journalism
The German/Austrian mountaineers that first climbed the "North Face Of The Eiger" in 1936 talked about using very strong Ampthetamines to achieve what was seen as impossible at the time. It sounds like the Nazis were all on a huge, collective come down, by 1945.
@@Tom-tp1jvNo, it ended because of a comedown. The use of amphetamine played a huge role in beginning it. The amphetamine high caused it, but the inevitable crash lead to their downfall. Part of how they were able to perform Blitzkrieg and night tine raids was due to amphetamine/pervitin usage. And many argue H man was so ambitious and brutal due to his amphetamine usage.
Paul Erdős published 1,500 mathematical papers during his lifetime, a figure that remains unsurpassed. Paul used Amphetamines every day from 1971 until his death in 1996. He felt a day without use of amphetamines was a day wasted.
not meth, amphetamine sulphate. at the low doses either army prescribed the difference is negligible, at the dosages pilots where documented to take however amphetamine sulfate is substantally more jittery and paranoid. by the 60s the US armed forces replaced amphetamine sulfate with dextroamphetamine sulfate which carrys the benifits of amphetamine and methamphetamine but without the jitters associated with amphetamine or the, obvious problems, associated with meth
There was a time when i decided i would throw out any responsibility i had and lived homeless. To my surprise, meth was easier to get than a sandwich. Add a bonus, it took away my apatite better than food. It also had me up for days and days and often times i felt like i was invincible. But, i didn't realize it was slowly killing me. It was numbing me to my plight.i didn't care about anything and i loved it. While in one hand it was killing me, it was numbing me to the starvation i was putting myself through. I survived the murderous attempts of a meth addiction and was shooting an ⅛ of an once of meth into my body per day for around 3 years. Im not completely sure of the time frame because I was in states of absolute bliss. I was smoking and snoring it for around 10 years off and on or on occasions and socially before i went to the needle one dreadfully depressing day. But hey, I survived. Understandably, I have zero desire to do it again.
great interview, my sister actually bought me a copy of his book when it came out back in 2015, and i'm looking forward to his new book "tripped" once i get some time away from research reading lol also, i like your comment on GHB and it being (mis) labeled as a date rape drug. i've been telling people for years now whenever it comes up that whoever spread that rumour clearly didn't ever do GHB. it's salty and chemical tasting, shows up as oil in a drink and mixes horribly with alcohol. also, its harder to come by than something like a benzo which would work much better for that "purpose" but somehow, outside of rohypnol, benzos never get brought up much as "date rape" drugs.
alcohol is the ultimate “date rape” drug, and i feel like a lot of the *illicit* substances labelled with that tag are just projection. the media and political establishment are deeply linked with the alcohol industry, so they love attacking other (superior, IMHO) substances
Why is it that alcohol, one of the most devastating mind bending substance we consume, is one that is semi-legal while other less brain bending drugs are totally banned? I can still drive and not be a nuisance on most substances, while small amounts of alcohol devastate me. Weird.
Probably a combination of the fact that ingredients are everywhere and one doesn't need to be a chemist to make it. In other words, it would be impossible to enforce. Just like it is impossible to enforce all the others, but they are still trying. Here, one of the reasons of war on drugs is also artificial scarcity, making some people super rich. Care for public good, individuals with addictive personalities, isn't really the goal of the war on drugs. Legalize all except untested analogs and delirients. I want a swiss model where I can go and take my heroin under supervision in preplanned place, that is clean, safe, and there is someone to naloxon me if I take too much, twice a day, and pay for it monthly if I want. Also have a good rehab when I am ready to kick it. Keeping my job, my property, my safety during all of it. Also good psychiatrist to work on deep issues that made me search for an escape in the first place. You are absolutely right. I would rather be in company of a random person on heroin then on alcholol. If you are alive, you are addicted to something.
racism, largely. alcohol has a long tradition of use (and is generally well tolerated) by people of european backgrounds. the origins of prohibition are political, with Anslinger’s demonisation of cannabis, cocaine etc as drugs that made black and mexican people crazy and dangerous etc. then the ‘war on drugs’, which people close to nixon explicitly stated was designed to criminalise populations of people who were troublesome to the US government in the 1960s (black people campaigning for civil rights and countercultural young folk interested in cannabis and psychedelics). mass incarceration followed, and exploded in the 80s and 90s with the racial associations of crack and PCP and legislation that (for example) gave far harsher penalties for freebase cocaine (poor POC-coded drug) than an equal amount of cocaine hydrochloride (affluent white-coded drug). it served a political goal and was exported around the world via US imperialism and diplomatic pressure, and became hard baked into legal systems and minds of people who believed the propaganda.
@@relight6931Canada has started drug programs like what you mentioned, more recently than their euthenasia programs, both of which are quite costly in taxes
The idea that Hitler never drank is false. There's reports of him having glasses of Champaign at certain events; and he was fond of a special apple liquor that he would drink after meals most days. He wasn't a heavy drinker by any means but certainly wasn't a teetotaler either.
Ohler notoriously "skipped" alcohol in his writings, making it all about Pervitin and getting (rightfully so) criticized for his unnuanced take on drugs during WWII. Yeah sure, Panzerschokolade was big for a time, but drinking has always been a far, far bigger factor in mobilizing troops and keeping the little morale - in all the countries of this world, not just Germany. Lots of nonsense about Hitler's alleged addictions and symptoms, too.
@@minhuang8848Exactly. Obama was known for taking modafinil as well as several other politicians this century. When you're such a busy important person leadinga nation, it makes sense you'd dabble with stimulants or similar drugs to use your time more effectively and sleep less, especially before there was a stigma against them. There's still not really a stigma against modafinil, and it's available via prescription, so it's been somewhat common for such people to use it. I believe they give ut to pilots on long flights as well. I think its likely that H man took amphetamines or cocaine at times, especially since they were freely sold in pharmacies at the time, but depictions of him as an insane half alive drug addict like in one of the newer Wolfenstein games is pretty ridiculous, and seems to have no factual basis.
Hamilton needs to work with Norman to get more information on the subject of Pervitin and other synthetic analogues used by the Germans. Interesting interview and the book revealed a lot from the war. Thank you for your work Hamilton.
@@mj.lI guess your right, maybe Norman was understandably trying to protect his interests. If Hamilton could get a translator to help with reviewing German chemistry literature his chemistry background might reveal more than what Norman has written about.
@@AB-ee5tb you're just throwing words around. you're not a god pal. you're a mortal human intellectually equivalent to an ant. don't let your ego get too big. you're just a bunch of particles
Yeah gotta agree 100%, I've got dex, meth and ritalin in my stash box and I took the ritalin. The meth has been there for months I'm not fussed, weird reading this coming up off 60mg ritalin right now 😮
A big problem with the meth epidemic is the current strength of Mexican meth is at an all time high. Since it’s not just a stimulant but a psychostimulant the chance for psychosis is fairly high with extended use. With most heavy drug users already lacking something mentally it’s a dangerous mix. The secret to meth use is prioritizing sleep. Not sleeping is poison to your brain. If you can force yourself to sleep responsible use is much easier to achieve.
And brush your teeth. Your tongue especially. And drink lots of water. Meth doesn’t cause meth mouth, but people gettin spun and not eating, sleeping, drinking, or having hygiene, causes that tooth decay. 1000000%
I mean every meth head starts with "oh it's soo good i can work three jobs and still party" the try breaking trough a wall with a spoon comes much later. People, stay sleeping you need it😅
Ironically its the "Energy supplement to end all energy supplements that like you said, cause the problem. i wonder if the culture around its use was based more on enhanceing normal life than being a all weekend party animal that kind of abuse would be less common
Gynergen (Femergin), brand name for ergotamine tartrate (ergotamine stoll) was Stoll's. Neo-Gynergen or perhaps Dihydroergotamine is my best guess for Hoffman's improved product).
There is something problematic about comparing drugs to vegetables. Yes, they are different, but there effect on body can be drastically different, some can be deadly, some are more prone to creat addiction, some are more likely to cause aggressive behavior than others. Thank you for fascinating interview. I am always happy when you publish something new.
the dude describing his joys of driving the tank cracked me up, something about it is so cute and funny. Im happy for his little moment of bliss and appreciation for the little things in life during his drive through hell. cute little wins keep your heart together before listening to your mind and needing to tear your soul apart for the big wins you were told you wanted grotesquely takes over.
Love the content and style. I appreciate the way you covered how our view is shaped on certain things, the date rape drug is a great example. And how it wasnt just nazi germany but rather most countries at the time
For a drug nerd like myself, I don't think anyone makes a better series/podcast. I'm the kind of drug nerd that read PiHKAL & TiHKAL & immediately felt a sort of paternal bond with Sasha -- which is pretty common among drug nerds who read Shulgin, so common I call us "The Sons of Shulgin." In a world where all the "Godfathers of Psychedelics" are sadly passing away en masse, at least we know we'll have Hamilton for many years to come.
I wonder how much of an effect the addictive properties of the drugs affected the soldiers willingness to fight for the Nazis. Seems like it would be a lot easier to get folks to commit crimes against humanity if you supply the drug to which they’re addicted.
I was in the USAF, Aerospace Medicine. They still do this in the case of pilots on long trams-oceanic flights, paired with a seditive. Called ‘Go-No Go’.
This is a subject that needs to be talked about more. All sides in WWII used some form of meth/amphetamine, especially Germany and Japan who were notorious for getting their soldiers hooked and dependent. Resulting in psychosis, hallucinations, etc... But America and UK also used it to varying degrees. I wonder the pharmaceutical companies impact from back then is showing today.
Im gunna try and watch Mr Death now... thank you Hamilton.great work, thank you for sharing. How intering when 50 min in he contemplated his own bias on meth
Meth really isn’t the monster it’s made out to be. Not that I encourage anyone to try it, but I appreciate the candor in regards to the true nature of the drug.
USA is the MONSTER. They do not care about mentally ill people so they are left on the streets and then people think drugs are bad when MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE DO CRAZY SHIT ON METH.. Normal people know how to behave on any drug.
i think meth actually does deserve some stigma cause it can permanently damage people's brains if they take really large doses of it, but i agree, its way more stigmatized than it should be
@@sadhu7191yes they are, what about life saving ones then genius? Huh and if psychoactive drugs are used responsibly, they can be good, but you’re of a to low of an i.Q to comprehend what I’m explaining, which explains your open and shut case for substances. Lol
The leader of that German party also used Eucodol, brand name for oxycodone, and one of his top his top advisers was a heavily opioid user as well of several other high leader leaders at the time, while fleeting German at the time, was caught with a suitcase of 26,000 dihydrocodine, or 1/3rd of the opioids at the time. Fun fact
Herman Goering head of the Nazi air force was a morphine addict and was the one who had a suitcase full of the dihydrocodeine when he surrendered to the .
I stayed awake for 9 days a couple of halloweens ago, even while taking copious amounts of benzos, it was rage fuelled. I don't doubt some of those soldiers fought for 17 days and nights with the stimulants and hyped to the max.
It's kind of interesting to hear the Anglophone perspective that 'pervitine is not a scary sounding name' compared to 'meth', which comes loaded with dogmatic presumptions. In Eastern Europe and Germany, where people commonly refer to meth as 'pervitine', this dogma remains. Having been raised with both western anglophone culture & central European culture, neither word signals a neutral, pharmaceutical-sounding drug name.
Ah yes the nuanced realization that all drugs are merely tools. Yet for some reason a vast majority of users have zero training, knowledge, or implications of thier immediate and downstream affects. Vast is their experience and their wounds.
I wouldn't say drugs are a tool. The analogy would be closer to an art. No one would say Shostakovich's 5th symphony is a tool; but it does transform you.
A big nuance on the conversation also is those who don't know anything about drugs, and even in this conversation, it's very easy to accuse others of trying to encourage/glorify drugs. We have to be more bias in how we look at all things and try and view the world from outside your own prespectives and opinions. It is a very healing habit to form. 😊
@@HairyKnuckles222I think ghb, Wellbutrin and lyrica works on GABA B whilst benzos work on GABA A receptors, or it’s the other way around GHB feels very different to benzos. Ghb has a noticeable feeling of intoxication unlike benzos.
No it isn't, it's only because of the worldwide high use and legalisation of alcohol that the societies know of it's "issues" Fentanyl can kill you by just touching it, look at it by research on the matter
Favorite episode. I like meth but it’s unimpressive unless IV’d like Hitler and JFK. I love the HP episode on Meth too - fantastic! We love you, Hamilton!
Something about Phenmetrazine, Fencamfamine, Pemoline and all those old obscure stims would be interesting, I would love to test all those reportedly so much better alternatives to meth & co
I always hate this drug determinate behavior fallacy, The drug does not cause the evil, The person causes the evil, their drug of choice is a coincidence
I mostly agree. Although I've been around many who are addicts, or overuse, or just party too hard on some, including prescription drugs. Drugs, prescription, and otherwise do effect neurotransmitters, causing anger, violence, and negativity. So does coffee through, and chronic pain; extreme illness. I grew up in a family with addictions. It's definitely not black and white.
@@tammyrobinson1613 As someone who grew up in a household full of violence and addiction my sympathies to the childhood we should have gotten but never did, i would, however, counter it as i have struggled with many types of addiction in my life many Class A drugs, the people around me used violence and intimidation however i never resorted to such behavior so i still would disagree the behavior we both experience was due to drugs, pain causes pain.
It certainly can play a role in removing the inhibitions a person would typically have. I mean a cns stimulant is very possibly going to increase fear, anger, and sexuality beyond levels achievable without drugs. It doesn't excuse the behavior or directly cause it, but it can definitely play a role in exacerbating problems/desires a person already has. There's also stimulant psychosis. Psychosis can happen naturally, but not sleeping or eating correctly seems to greatly enhance the odds of a psychotic episode, and stimulants make it possible to go without sleep or food far longer than a person typically could.
I think also administration route is substantially overlooked unfortunately. Cant imagine how greatly thats impacted contemporary zeitgeists, some of which are still recently remnant.
My restaurant used to do that. It's gotta be toxic as fuck (Hamilton?), and it leaves burnt residue all over the dishes. Just use a layer of parchment paper and foil.
@@ethandarcy5940 facts tho I was DISGUSTED by that😂 especially when the whole pans of ribs costs nearly $3000 after, and reputable as a high class restaurant while paying us less than McDonald’s n doing shi like that😂 at least out sous chef was like “f that do NOT but that plastic wrap on”
@@Pluralofvinylisvinyls for real, when I was 16 I was able to order 2c-b for $8-12/gm from chinese labs, I could get LSD for $2-3/hit max and molly was $18/gm. Now if I wanted a weekend of fun it would cost me the entirety of my teen years haha
No difference at all if u are getting pure meth .. pervitin only active ingredient was/is methamphetamine ,one pill containing 3mg of it. Only real difference is dosages people use/abuse meth like 10x,20x,30x.. times more per hit multiple times.. thats some serious dopamine and norepinephrine being released/depleted
@@mj.l I haven't watched it yet, I saved it and will watch it later. Did he mention flying crews in the RAF and USAF also using speed on some flying missions ? Pretty sure the Japanese imperial army used it in the second World War ?
34:34 Completely anectdotal since meth is - at least kind of rare exept regionally hjere in Germany - i found the Czech meth somebody brought home as a souvenier and let me try a little bit actually more "psychedelic" than regular speed in the sense that there was more euphoria compsred to a plain stimulanting effect and a very slight increase i color intensity and contrast with a noticable yellow tinge like in the movie "Surveillance" with Bill Pullman
@@alechall7082 haha yeah it can taste like all sorts of things I've had kava that tastes like clay, one was like campfire, like hay, and I know it's gonna suck if it tastes like incense 🤧
The nihilistic opinion on it all with Ricardo villalobos is funny😊 I these techno punk musician where I lived a few years ago who would scoff at that he asked for a million dollars a DJ set LOL
@@Pluralofvinylisvinylsit really isn’t. just a deliriant. toxic as fuck and horrible. yes, i experimented with it when i was young and foolish, and it’s complete shit.
Look up Dr dementia and the experiments with hallucinogens to see the effects of different substances to make enemy soldiers unable to function and the chemical referred to as BZ that was a datura alcaloid
Methylated amphetamine only achives its euphoria by more easily penetrating the blood brain barrer, and its recreational potential is achieved due to the relatively less stress it puts on the circulatory system. More of the active compound penetrates the BBB than amphetamine. Equivalent doses are thus less cardiotoxic and cerebrotoxix effects.
Adderal should be Over the Counter…. I would never remove my belief of Cannabis , Alltho amazing plant botanically. I wouldn’t smoke the dried fruit of a very posioness flour . Check cannaboids , even a small amount of a CB drug can screw up people …. Meth should be legal over the counter … a common dose of a drug user is 200mg per hit …. When 5mg should be a common dose …. Check Indonesia for example , where their meth is likely more pure less with rat poison , I personally seen people there that been doing meth for over 30 years and completely fine …. The issue with drugs are impurities, but for example I wouldn’t mind some of them being legal …. Alltho anything that causes a person to be not productive should be illegal , and with an iron fist …. Anything that is badly recrystalised or purified , I mean they literally use Mercury to make MDA , or whatever…. And people who take these show signs of the like of workers who work near mercury…. Meth isn’t a big deal , it’s just really sad that people would take more than 15mg , even 2.5mg Adderal (yes prescribed to me 60mg but I give them to friends usually, I also have Alprozolam which I never taken just so a close friend will stop buying that from the street ) Point is , 200mg dose , when 2mg is potent … I personally believe that it should be legal … along with Ethylamphetamine Cannabis should be legal because you can predict how much it screw up a person mind if it causes their eyes to go red … But I guess could be a bit legal if only given in a pill form , a non cannabis , fully synthetic canaboid drug …. Beside that Meth isn’t too bad seriously , can be an anti depressant too … maybe they can create an analog of it… Just a notice Methyaltion isn’t really a thing in making of meth , Alltho many ways , I know that there is a thing in Afghanistan where they grow ephemera plant for the extraction of Ephedrine which 300kg of ephedra olant would yield 3kg of Ephedrine … not a big profit for them but okay lol Methylation is usually more of a slang of heroin production …. Anyways not gonna protect drugs , addition is real…. But not all drugs should be illegal …. So many chemicals and all of them bad ? So many groups and classes of chemicals , and every group is bad ? Anyways they get a bad name because it turns out mercury is in every drug made …. Weed is fairly safe as it is because it’s from plant , which synthesizes it perfectslly and doesn’t need a violent reaction. , and precursors which are I moure themselves … Again weed is bad , should be kept illegal , it seriously changes an individual…. But the war should be on Teflon and Plastic … and then it will naturally come how to clean those posions… I really wish they developed different classes of Amti depressiants like Bupropion , the Ssri thing is a myth so many dozens of scientists and the common ideas in literature is wrong and bs … depressions causes by a lack of joy … Even water can be an anti depressant, think of your brain as a chemists that need to creates the many chemicals in the brain … I guess some multi pill form should be developed , like a drug of seductive drugs or whatever and stimulants in them … that are potent but in a 20mg pill … For examples Cocaine addicts are like that. Because of Fuel poisoning, again see people who work near Fuel factories or any Glue Snuffer kid as he becomes an adult , It’s the posions , that make the littature about drugs wrong … Canaboids no Slightly similar to a chemical in the body , yes Too different looking structurally in the body , no it’s a poison . They are many hormones that can’t really be synthesized, today is very limited in what can actually be done
Regular amphetamine achieves pretty much the same euphoria at similar doses. But you’re right that the less circulatory stress causing people to be able to take more / take it longer
Yes and no, the additional group also has unique action on the release of glutamate, the other derivatives simply do not have that action. While at therapeutic equivalent dosages the glutamate likely has little to no effect for most users minus the modest possibility it improves efficacy for ADHD treatment, at high doses glutamate becomes directly responsible for the excitotoxicity observed in chronic high dose methamphetamine abusers. as for the circulatory aspect this is the double edged sword, yes it puts very minimal strain on the circulatory system when used as perscribed, but lets be frank stimulant abuse is usually a binge activity and while with amphetamine or dextroamphetamine, though less so with the latter, 2 or 3 days into a run the users going to feel profoundly unwell and it will likely discourage further use, meth can get far more out of hand far easier and has far longer lasting consequences
Hamilton you don’t drink coffee, I’m interested in what you’re reasoning is and what you believe to be the elite form of caffeine??? (Matcha seems pretty up there based on steady release vs spike, antioxidants, antiviral properties etc etc). I just can’t get over the smell since I associate it with kratom so closely😂 but what’s the most pleasant for you!?
For reason's that I haven't identified, coffee causes me to experience terrible abdominal pain. It's not the acidity because coffee isn't particularly acidic and I drink more acidic things like orange juice without issue. It's not the caffeine because I can consume large quantities of tea and pure caffeine without issue. It's not the bitterness because I experience the same effect when I drink non-bitter tea from coffee fruit, so it's something related specifically to the coffee plant. I prefer the taste of matcha anyway.
@@HamiltonMorris that’s very interesting! Because i (used to) get horrible abdominal discomfort from green tea! Thought it was maybe the plastic Kuerig pods until one day I drank a bottled green tea at work and got that knot in my tummy and just yacked everywhere. But I guess with green tea a large percentage of the population has a sensitivity(?*)/doesn’t have an enzyme to metabolize one of the tannins found in it. Maybe I worked up a tolerance now, but I always find coffee is an interesting one to ask people about, because even if people are caffeine lovers, sometimes coffee irritates them too much in some way. And not to generalize, but many bigger fellas I’ve asked say it jus rips up their guts haha but that could be anywhere from hydration levels or how much is in their colon and how active it is I’m guessing.
And hey kind of off topic, but while I’m here: maybe a year or so ago I was reading some study’s on Kratoms possible antiviral/bacterial properties, specifically in regards to preventing contracting salmonella virus. However, when I went back to look it up a couple months later, the web was flooded with fear mongering news about isolated instances of people who contracted salmonella from contaminated kratom due to the manufacturers (unlisted of course, thanks for the harm prevention!). But even with trying all the key words, it was so flooded with what almost appeared to be anti kratom propaganda (although very real, but presumably from the states illegal in? I mean anything can be infected with salmonella, and I don’t even see CHICKEN with this type of mapping of the salmonella outbreaks that they did with this by the cdc!!!! Which is WAY greater ) that all the scientific studies were just impossible to find! I’ll do some more looking right after I post this to see if maybe I’m just tripping, but was something I thought was kind goofy. S/o kratom being the first drug that the people successfully petitioned to stay legal! (Think I learned that one from you!😏). BUT THANKS FOR THE REPLY HAMILTON U MADE MY NIGHT! Keep up the hard work, I love every single video you make and I would single handedly credit you for sparking my curiosity in pharmacology and chemistry in a way that now applies to the everyday way I think and ponder about life! Wish you the utmost best in the remainder of this crazy life!
@@HamiltonMorris and off topic, but had this other realization. About a year ago I was reading multiple studies on kratoms antiviral and antibacterial properties, specifically and predominantly with regards to preventing the contraction of salmonella virus if kratom had been consumed before the salmonella contaminated object was ingested. However, a few months ago I went back to search for the studies again, yet the web was flooded with what *almost* appears to be anti kratom propaganda, diluting any possible scientific backed benefits that it may offer, now with headline after headline of “salmonella contaminated kratom outbreaks”… without listing A SINGLE BRAND!! Pft who needs harm prevention? Get your dose of fear mongering! I mean I cannot find such an elaborately mapped salmonella outbreak for CHICKEN, mf CHICKEN!! Which has more deaths per year compared to 0! After trying all the different keywords and phrases I still cannot find any washed away studies. I’m going to go digging right now so I’ll get back to you if I do, but hey. Ig those people should’ve eaten some non contaminated kratom before eating the salmonella contaminated kratom and they may have been fine (according to studies I cannot cite😂). But s/o kratom for being the first drug that we the people successfully petitioned to fight from it becoming illegal! (Think you taught me that one!😏). THANKS HAMILTON YOU MADE MY NIGHT REPLYING! And I could say I could single handedly credit you for sparking my curiosity for pharmacology and chemistry in such a way which I now interperet and ponder upon the world it’s every day. Keep up the hard work and great scientific revolutions you make! Wish you the utmost, most distinguished remainder of this crazy beautiful thing we call life!
@@HamiltonMorris BLESSED THOU FOR LIFE THY DEARETH HAMILTON🙌 thank you for providing such interesting and profound topics which have sparked my curiosity into pharmacology and chemistry and changes the fundamental way I perceive this world.
”Scientists would say this is anecdotal obviously, but we enjoy these anecdotes, and she enjoys them too. ”
Felt that, beautiful!
The soviets used Rhodeola ‘arctic rose’. They knew amphetamine was not sustainable and chose a herbal alternative.
@@michaelschmichael3973Well as luck would have it, simple reading comprehension as well as critical thinking can be addressed on some level without synthetics or herbal supplements. Whether through both, either or neither, it would be in your best interest either to reread the comment you replied to and reconsider your statement's relevance to it, review the portion that quote came from if need be, or maybe even encounter it for the first time in the event you did not already. It appears rather late in the video, but whatever the reason, your comment was either intended for another comment and posted here in error or are considerably confused.
I was a methamphetamine user for 22 years the worst thing was not getting enough sleep if you could sleep just a little bit, your body can handle it if you sleep
Thank you so much for this content Mr. Ham Man
No one else is doing this stuff, you're one of the only ways I can feed my drug-related passions in podcast form
We left a rave, in downtown Atlanta circa 1999, around sunup. Walking back from the east side through Piedmont Park. Heading towards back GeorgiaTech/GeorgiaState.
Let’s say about 2 miles, not tragically far, beautiful morning.
But walking across the grass and slightly uphill. All basically died from lack of sugar, dehydration, and everything else probably mostly Ecstasy/Molly/“Coke”/Booze/BreakBeats. And then two girls with wings and cooler packs on their bags full of Red Bull showed up…
I think they gave us 2 each, there were four of us.
I hope the others think of that morning sometimes,
I know I do.
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Fr tho
@@glyph241what bro lmao 😂
@@glyph241wow that was beautiful 😭
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Hey I just wanted to thank you Hamilton for being a pioneer in this world I’ve been listening to you for years and just wanted to thank you for your work and journalism
The German/Austrian mountaineers that first climbed the "North Face Of The Eiger" in 1936 talked about using very strong Ampthetamines to achieve what was seen as impossible at the time. It sounds like the Nazis were all on a huge, collective come down, by 1945.
ww2 was caused by a comedown 🤣
@@Tom-tp1jvNo, it ended because of a comedown. The use of amphetamine played a huge role in beginning it. The amphetamine high caused it, but the inevitable crash lead to their downfall. Part of how they were able to perform Blitzkrieg and night tine raids was due to amphetamine/pervitin usage. And many argue H man was so ambitious and brutal due to his amphetamine usage.
amphetamine was very popular with cyclists in the tour de france etc in the early years too
ruby on burgess?
New World Order is alvvays buzz kill
Paul Erdős published 1,500 mathematical papers during his lifetime, a figure that remains unsurpassed.
Paul used Amphetamines every day from 1971 until his death in 1996. He felt a day without use of amphetamines was a day wasted.
And I cleaned my carpet with toilet paper and water bottle
@@sadhu7191 Thanks for sharing.
I'm sure he was using dosing like Desoxyn in mg amounts and not snorting rails.
@@Arminius-yi2vs70s and 80s it was commonly used and even sold as diet pills, but people have been known to pair it with cocaine since mid 70s
Oh yea dude youre just like this mathmatical genius i bet you could take double his dose everyday and be an ultimate human being !
I saw a interview with a WWII American B24 pilot who described taking meth during long missions. The US was also giving soldiers meth too.
Still is ; every military has stimulants on hand i case of... Today just have more refined stimulants
not meth, amphetamine sulphate.
at the low doses either army prescribed the difference is negligible, at the dosages pilots where documented to take however amphetamine sulfate is substantally more jittery and paranoid.
by the 60s the US armed forces replaced amphetamine sulfate with dextroamphetamine sulfate which carrys the benifits of amphetamine and methamphetamine but without the jitters associated with amphetamine or the, obvious problems, associated with meth
Anti fatigue tablets
Thanks for making this available for free!!! Best topics as always.
For anyone who may be wondering… the pills on the thumbnail are Desoxyn
Not a misspelled PERVERTon?
Hard to find a doctor that will prescribe Desoxyn, very strong stimulant
There was a time when i decided i would throw out any responsibility i had and lived homeless. To my surprise, meth was easier to get than a sandwich. Add a bonus, it took away my apatite better than food. It also had me up for days and days and often times i felt like i was invincible. But, i didn't realize it was slowly killing me. It was numbing me to my plight.i didn't care about anything and i loved it. While in one hand it was killing me, it was numbing me to the starvation i was putting myself through. I survived the murderous attempts of a meth addiction and was shooting an ⅛ of an once of meth into my body per day for around 3 years. Im not completely sure of the time frame because I was in states of absolute bliss. I was smoking and snoring it for around 10 years off and on or on occasions and socially before i went to the needle one dreadfully depressing day. But hey, I survived. Understandably, I have zero desire to do it again.
Have you noticed any damages or changes to you brain, after all its neurotoxic
Thank you for sharing, im glad you're in a better place now
Kykeon is great. I use their FTIR library in my drug checking program. Glad they got a mention.
whats the difference from the 3 tests he said they offer?
great interview, my sister actually bought me a copy of his book when it came out back in 2015, and i'm looking forward to his new book "tripped" once i get some time away from research reading lol
also, i like your comment on GHB and it being (mis) labeled as a date rape drug. i've been telling people for years now whenever it comes up that whoever spread that rumour clearly didn't ever do GHB. it's salty and chemical tasting, shows up as oil in a drink and mixes horribly with alcohol. also, its harder to come by than something like a benzo which would work much better for that "purpose" but somehow, outside of rohypnol, benzos never get brought up much as "date rape" drugs.
alcohol is the ultimate “date rape” drug, and i feel like a lot of the *illicit* substances labelled with that tag are just projection.
the media and political establishment are deeply linked with the alcohol industry, so they love attacking other (superior, IMHO) substances
Really ? benzos are harder to get then GHB it’s everywhere here in my country anyways
Why is it that alcohol, one of the most devastating mind bending substance we consume, is one that is semi-legal while other less brain bending drugs are totally banned? I can still drive and not be a nuisance on most substances, while small amounts of alcohol devastate me. Weird.
Probably a combination of the fact that ingredients are everywhere and one doesn't need to be a chemist to make it. In other words, it would be impossible to enforce. Just like it is impossible to enforce all the others, but they are still trying.
Here, one of the reasons of war on drugs is also artificial scarcity, making some people super rich. Care for public good, individuals with addictive personalities, isn't really the goal of the war on drugs. Legalize all except untested analogs and delirients. I want a swiss model where I can go and take my heroin under supervision in preplanned place, that is clean, safe, and there is someone to naloxon me if I take too much, twice a day, and pay for it monthly if I want. Also have a good rehab when I am ready to kick it. Keeping my job, my property, my safety during all of it. Also good psychiatrist to work on deep issues that made me search for an escape in the first place.
You are absolutely right. I would rather be in company of a random person on heroin then on alcholol.
If you are alive, you are addicted to something.
racism, largely.
alcohol has a long tradition of use (and is generally well tolerated) by people of european backgrounds.
the origins of prohibition are political, with Anslinger’s demonisation of cannabis, cocaine etc as drugs that made black and mexican people crazy and dangerous etc.
then the ‘war on drugs’, which people close to nixon explicitly stated was designed to criminalise populations of people who were troublesome to the US government in the 1960s (black people campaigning for civil rights and countercultural young folk interested in cannabis and psychedelics). mass incarceration followed, and exploded in the 80s and 90s with the racial associations of crack and PCP and legislation that (for example) gave far harsher penalties for freebase cocaine (poor POC-coded drug) than an equal amount of cocaine hydrochloride (affluent white-coded drug).
it served a political goal and was exported around the world via US imperialism and diplomatic pressure, and became hard baked into legal systems and minds of people who believed the propaganda.
Some guy just said racism 😂 would love to take a look in his head 😂😂😂😂
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Begin reading about Harry J. Anslinger and you'll realise it's actually largely true.
@@relight6931Canada has started drug programs like what you mentioned, more recently than their euthenasia programs, both of which are quite costly in taxes
Love him man. He’s a good egg. Thanks Hamilton for something great to listen to often.
The idea that Hitler never drank is false. There's reports of him having glasses of Champaign at certain events; and he was fond of a special apple liquor that he would drink after meals most days. He wasn't a heavy drinker by any means but certainly wasn't a teetotaler either.
Ohler notoriously "skipped" alcohol in his writings, making it all about Pervitin and getting (rightfully so) criticized for his unnuanced take on drugs during WWII. Yeah sure, Panzerschokolade was big for a time, but drinking has always been a far, far bigger factor in mobilizing troops and keeping the little morale - in all the countries of this world, not just Germany. Lots of nonsense about Hitler's alleged addictions and symptoms, too.
@@minhuang8848Exactly. Obama was known for taking modafinil as well as several other politicians this century. When you're such a busy important person leadinga nation, it makes sense you'd dabble with stimulants or similar drugs to use your time more effectively and sleep less, especially before there was a stigma against them. There's still not really a stigma against modafinil, and it's available via prescription, so it's been somewhat common for such people to use it. I believe they give ut to pilots on long flights as well. I think its likely that H man took amphetamines or cocaine at times, especially since they were freely sold in pharmacies at the time, but depictions of him as an insane half alive drug addict like in one of the newer Wolfenstein games is pretty ridiculous, and seems to have no factual basis.
Hitler was also addicted to cocaine, oxycodone and morphine
I am glad you are still making content always top notch
Are you going to post any of the chemistry you’ve been doing at the lab?
Hamilton needs to work with Norman to get more information on the subject of Pervitin and other synthetic analogues used by the Germans.
Interesting interview and the book revealed a lot from the war. Thank you for your work Hamilton.
by the sounds of it Hamilton worked very hard to get what he did out of Norman.
great interview, but it sounded like a tough slog at times
@@mj.lI guess your right, maybe Norman was understandably trying to protect his interests. If Hamilton could get a translator to help with reviewing German chemistry literature his chemistry background might reveal more than what Norman has written about.
Psychedelics have a great _capacity_ to _help_ people get better, if they choose to do so.
especially once the person gets past the "I am god" phase
We are all god
Saying you're a god is the most delusional thing I've heard before. You are not God. 😂
@@kevinsedwards god is EVERYTHING
@@AB-ee5tb you're just throwing words around. you're not a god pal. you're a mortal human intellectually equivalent to an ant. don't let your ego get too big. you're just a bunch of particles
@@AB-ee5tbwe all know man, the point is to experience not being god
HE'S BACK WHEN THE WORLD NEEDED HIM THE (ALBERT) MOST!
Who is this “al most”?
Isn't that the frog guy
@@D4V3.0Hfrog wizard
You know how they say meth, not even once? I did it 3 times and wasnt that impressed. I like adderall and ritalin more.
Yeah gotta agree 100%, I've got dex, meth and ritalin in my stash box and I took the ritalin.
The meth has been there for months I'm not fussed, weird reading this coming up off 60mg ritalin right now 😮
I freak out on Adderall or meth, but I handle Ritalin super well
Fried brains.
ATWA❤
Ritalin is alow release methamphetamine. It is different. Dexamphetamine (adderall) makes me anxious @@sp00g37
That was an excellent interview Hamilton thank you very much
Norman has a great vibe to him
Resonating in the Nethers peace brother
Yes, if you can handle it, it works. But it is hard to keep the dosage balanced
More so it’s difficult to have the willpower enough to not go back to the cookie jar after dosing.
@@Caleb153_17this is the real hard part lol
@@Caleb153_17yup, especially with meth. Theory and practice are often two very separate things
There is a similar story to cocaine capsules saving people trekking through unknown areas and the arctic.
A big problem with the meth epidemic is the current strength of Mexican meth is at an all time high. Since it’s not just a stimulant but a psychostimulant the chance for psychosis is fairly high with extended use. With most heavy drug users already lacking something mentally it’s a dangerous mix. The secret to meth use is prioritizing sleep. Not sleeping is poison to your brain. If you can force yourself to sleep responsible use is much easier to achieve.
Sleep doesn’t seem like an option for some users. I can’t sleep if I have a cup of coffee after noon.
@@Pluralofvinylisvinyls I get it. Insomnia can be hard to beat. Gotta sleep though
And brush your teeth. Your tongue especially. And drink lots of water. Meth doesn’t cause meth mouth, but people gettin spun and not eating, sleeping, drinking, or having hygiene, causes that tooth decay. 1000000%
Truth
Psychostimulant is called that not because of psychosis, but because it’s psychoactive and a stimulant. So the class includes caffeine.
Beautiful conversation, especially talking about lsd and psilocybin being used as a medicine for elderly
Very excited about the Manson interview
I mean every meth head starts with "oh it's soo good i can work three jobs and still party" the try breaking trough a wall with a spoon comes much later. People, stay sleeping you need it😅
Ironically its the "Energy supplement to end all energy supplements that like you said, cause the problem.
i wonder if the culture around its use was based more on enhanceing normal life than being a all weekend party animal that kind of abuse would be less common
Gynergen (Femergin), brand name for ergotamine tartrate (ergotamine stoll) was Stoll's. Neo-Gynergen or perhaps Dihydroergotamine is my best guess for Hoffman's improved product).
There is something problematic about comparing drugs to vegetables. Yes, they are different, but there effect on body can be drastically different, some can be deadly, some are more prone to creat addiction, some are more likely to cause aggressive behavior than others.
Thank you for fascinating interview. I am always happy when you publish something new.
the dude describing his joys of driving the tank cracked me up, something about it is so cute and funny. Im happy for his little moment of bliss and appreciation for the little things in life during his drive through hell. cute little wins keep your heart together before listening to your mind and needing to tear your soul apart for the big wins you were told you wanted grotesquely takes over.
Love the content and style. I appreciate the way you covered how our view is shaped on certain things, the date rape drug is a great example. And how it wasnt just nazi germany but rather most countries at the time
👍🐯👍 good one Hamilton. This is one of my favorite stories of a practical use of a drug and puts a new spin on the phrase getting your perv on😂.
That was a top tier cannaclear ad lmao. Enjoying the podcast so far.
For a drug nerd like myself, I don't think anyone makes a better series/podcast. I'm the kind of drug nerd that read PiHKAL & TiHKAL & immediately felt a sort of paternal bond with Sasha -- which is pretty common among drug nerds who read Shulgin, so common I call us "The Sons of Shulgin." In a world where all the "Godfathers of Psychedelics" are sadly passing away en masse, at least we know we'll have Hamilton for many years to come.
Very interesting topic, love to see it.
I wonder how much of an effect the addictive properties of the drugs affected the soldiers willingness to fight for the Nazis. Seems like it would be a lot easier to get folks to commit crimes against humanity if you supply the drug to which they’re addicted.
everyone was using them, the brits had their dexedrine, the yanks had there benzedrine and the krauts were using the meth.
I wish this interview was longer
I was in the USAF, Aerospace Medicine. They still do this in the case of pilots on long trams-oceanic flights, paired with a seditive. Called ‘Go-No Go’.
Looking forward to the new book!
Fascinating! Another great podcast!
This is a subject that needs to be talked about more. All sides in WWII used some form of meth/amphetamine, especially Germany and Japan who were notorious for getting their soldiers hooked and dependent. Resulting in psychosis, hallucinations, etc... But America and UK also used it to varying degrees. I wonder the pharmaceutical companies impact from back then is showing today.
i don’t really understand the what last sentence means, but wartime drug regimes have a lot more to do with governments than pharma companies
I throughly enjoyed this talk. I'm from nc and can't wait to read his book. Awesome stuff
Im gunna try and watch Mr Death now... thank you Hamilton.great work, thank you for sharing. How intering when 50 min in he contemplated his own bias on meth
Meth really isn’t the monster it’s made out to be. Not that I encourage anyone to try it, but I appreciate the candor in regards to the true nature of the drug.
No drugs are
USA is the MONSTER. They do not care about mentally ill people so they are left on the streets and then people think drugs are bad when MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE DO CRAZY SHIT ON METH.. Normal people know how to behave on any drug.
i think meth actually does deserve some stigma cause it can permanently damage people's brains if they take really large doses of it, but i agree, its way more stigmatized than it should be
Have you been to any CMA meetings?
@@sadhu7191yes they are, what about life saving ones then genius? Huh and if psychoactive drugs are used responsibly, they can be good, but you’re of a to low of an i.Q to comprehend what I’m explaining, which explains your open and shut case for substances. Lol
Can you investigate the use of psychoactive plants in North Africa and the Middle East throughout history ?
The leader of that German party also used Eucodol, brand name for oxycodone, and one of his top his top advisers was a heavily opioid user as well of several other high leader leaders at the time, while fleeting German at the time, was caught with a suitcase of 26,000 dihydrocodine, or 1/3rd of the opioids at the time. Fun fact
Can't use the terms I wanted because of RUclips guidelines
Herman Goering head of the Nazi air force was a morphine addict and was the one who had a suitcase full of the dihydrocodeine when he surrendered to the .
I stayed awake for 9 days a couple of halloweens ago, even while taking copious amounts of benzos, it was rage fuelled. I don't doubt some of those soldiers fought for 17 days and nights with the stimulants and hyped to the max.
How was the psychosis
Loved his book!
I just bought the last copy of Normans book on Amazon :D
Exciting! Looking forward to this listening experience
Nothing but appreciation for sharing your insight
Is listening to this on 1.25x speed a kind of irony
Wow hearing him talk about how its helped his mother with Alzheimer's; amazing!!
This is my first listen to this podcast...I love Morris on Rogan
I don’t think it’s methamphetamine by itself causing violence etc it’s bingeing and lack of sleep that causes problems.
in german the book is called "Der totale Rausch" . a good read.
It's kind of interesting to hear the Anglophone perspective that 'pervitine is not a scary sounding name' compared to 'meth', which comes loaded with dogmatic presumptions. In Eastern Europe and Germany, where people commonly refer to meth as 'pervitine', this dogma remains. Having been raised with both western anglophone culture & central European culture, neither word signals a neutral, pharmaceutical-sounding drug name.
Ah yes the nuanced realization that all drugs are merely tools. Yet for some reason a vast majority of users have zero training, knowledge, or implications of thier immediate and downstream affects. Vast is their experience and their wounds.
Definitely tools. And can change your life for the bad or worse depending on the person. ❤
In large part they are a reflection of the individual taking them, different people actually experience various drugs in a surprisingly different way.
I wouldn't say drugs are a tool. The analogy would be closer to an art. No one would say Shostakovich's 5th symphony is a tool; but it does transform you.
@@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858 drugs aren’t art, they’re substances.
i think *tool* is a apt description.
A big nuance on the conversation also is those who don't know anything about drugs, and even in this conversation, it's very easy to accuse others of trying to encourage/glorify drugs. We have to be more bias in how we look at all things and try and view the world from outside your own prespectives and opinions. It is a very healing habit to form. 😊
such a wholesome story with his family
As usual Hamilton another exquisite video. By the way, for what its worth GHB works extremely well for panic disorder.
That’s because it works on enhancing the binding of GABBA to the receptors in the brain, works just like alcohol, benzodiazepines etc
@@HairyKnuckles222I think ghb, Wellbutrin and lyrica works on GABA B whilst benzos work on GABA A receptors, or it’s the other way around
GHB feels very different to benzos. Ghb has a noticeable feeling of intoxication unlike benzos.
You will pass tf out in an instant like a dead man
@@kevinsedwardsdosage.
@@kevinsedwards No because my government keeps me safe and has made ghb a schedule 1, because THEY CARE !
Loved this one thanks Hamilton
Joined your patreon today. See you soon!
Weed makes you forget you have a name. Meth makes you forget you have a soul
Alcohol is the hardest drug.
It sure is
Malt particularly. And it’s available everywhere in five varieties .
No it isn't, it's only because of the worldwide high use and legalisation of alcohol that the societies know of it's "issues" Fentanyl can kill you by just touching it, look at it by research on the matter
True
There’s a saying from the AA world that might fit:
The Bottle (insert your substance here) doesn’t make you do anything. It just lets ya….
As a lifelong medicated ADHD sufferer, I can't imagine what it would be like to be stimulated by stimulants.
Favorite episode. I like meth but it’s unimpressive unless IV’d like Hitler and JFK. I love the HP episode on Meth too - fantastic! We love you, Hamilton!
The way Ohler communicates in English reminds me of my Sister in Law (Austrian)
Something about Phenmetrazine, Fencamfamine, Pemoline and all those old obscure stims would be interesting, I would love to test all those reportedly so much better alternatives to meth & co
Fluorophenmetrazine is easily available online...
I always hate this drug determinate behavior fallacy, The drug does not cause the evil, The person causes the evil, their drug of choice is a coincidence
Yeah but tweaker stereotypes check out though. Chronic abuse of stimulants really fucks your CNS among other things
I mostly agree. Although I've been around many who are addicts, or overuse, or just party too hard on some, including prescription drugs. Drugs, prescription, and otherwise do effect neurotransmitters, causing anger, violence, and negativity. So does coffee through, and chronic pain; extreme illness.
I grew up in a family with addictions.
It's definitely not black and white.
@@tammyrobinson1613 As someone who grew up in a household full of violence and addiction my sympathies to the childhood we should have gotten but never did, i would, however, counter it as i have struggled with many types of addiction in my life many Class A drugs, the people around me used violence and intimidation however i never resorted to such behavior so i still would disagree the behavior we both experience was due to drugs, pain causes pain.
I think everyone has one drug they should never take. I have a feeling meth is that drug for me.
It certainly can play a role in removing the inhibitions a person would typically have. I mean a cns stimulant is very possibly going to increase fear, anger, and sexuality beyond levels achievable without drugs. It doesn't excuse the behavior or directly cause it, but it can definitely play a role in exacerbating problems/desires a person already has. There's also stimulant psychosis. Psychosis can happen naturally, but not sleeping or eating correctly seems to greatly enhance the odds of a psychotic episode, and stimulants make it possible to go without sleep or food far longer than a person typically could.
Homie had to drink a fifth of brandy to pass out.
I think also administration route is substantially overlooked unfortunately. Cant imagine how greatly thats impacted contemporary zeitgeists, some of which are still recently remnant.
Ok ok ok. Hamilton: Thought on *chefs* cooking with Saran Wrap?
My restaurant used to do that. It's gotta be toxic as fuck (Hamilton?), and it leaves burnt residue all over the dishes. Just use a layer of parchment paper and foil.
@@ethandarcy5940 facts tho I was DISGUSTED by that😂 especially when the whole pans of ribs costs nearly $3000 after, and reputable as a high class restaurant while paying us less than McDonald’s n doing shi like that😂 at least out sous chef was like “f that do NOT but that plastic wrap on”
‘mr. Death’ is a brilliant film.
I really miss LSD 2c-b and MDMA🤤
You tryed changa
@@dbw245 yes!!
Easy to get in middle school, not so easy in your thirties
@@Pluralofvinylisvinyls for real, when I was 16 I was able to order 2c-b for $8-12/gm from chinese labs, I could get LSD for $2-3/hit max and molly was $18/gm. Now if I wanted a weekend of fun it would cost me the entirety of my teen years haha
@@Pluralofvinylisvinylseasy asf bruh make friends
Meth promotes bad behavior? Interesting. Can’t say I’ve ever done anything “bad” on it when I use to take it. Other than maybe the drug itself.
What was the French town they talked about at the end of the interview?
Pont-Saint-Esprit
Could you do a show on what chemicals used in pervatin compared to chemicals used in street meth today
No difference at all if u are getting pure meth ..
pervitin only active ingredient was/is methamphetamine ,one pill containing 3mg of it. Only real difference is dosages people use/abuse meth like 10x,20x,30x.. times more per hit multiple times.. thats some serious dopamine and norepinephrine being released/depleted
This is fantastic. Thank you.
Now in the middle East particularly Syria they are using Captagon. Similar substance
hamilton discusses this like 7 minutes in
@@mj.l I haven't watched it yet, I saved it and will watch it later. Did he mention flying crews in the RAF and USAF also using speed on some flying missions ? Pretty sure the Japanese imperial army used it in the second World War ?
@@jazztheglass6139 yeah i’d recommend you listen, all this is covered
@@jazztheglass6139 you should listen, that’s all covered
I need to check with the Freiburg archive about my grandpa - I hope he a was psychonaut like me
loved this book, as well. fascinting.
34:34 Completely anectdotal since meth is - at least kind of rare exept regionally hjere in Germany - i found the Czech meth somebody brought home as a souvenier and let me try a little bit actually more "psychedelic" than regular speed in the sense that there was more euphoria compsred to a plain stimulanting effect and a very slight increase i color intensity and contrast with a noticable yellow tinge like in the movie "Surveillance" with Bill Pullman
Dan Carlin-esque quotation timbre is groovy
Isn't LSA a natural substance in Hawaiian wood rose seeds and morning glory seeds and is less potent than LSD?
Kratom, kava and green tea all together in one aeltzer? 🤮
Kava kava tea alone tastes like clay. I've always wanted it to taste a little _more_ bitter.
@@alechall7082 haha yeah it can taste like all sorts of things
I've had kava that tastes like clay, one was like campfire, like hay, and I know it's gonna suck if it tastes like incense 🤧
The alkaloids in kratom make it disgusting
Perv-itin sounds a bit like they found out about the sexual aspects of methamphetamine very soon ^^
I heard you mentioned lsd and military exercise could it be after the war? feels like during a war should be one of the horrifying examples.
The nihilistic opinion on it all with Ricardo villalobos is funny😊
I these techno punk musician where I lived a few years ago who would scoff at that he asked for a million dollars a DJ set LOL
Has Hamilton ever talked about datura?
@baiseduezcke2295 it is but still fascinating.
@@Pluralofvinylisvinylsit really isn’t. just a deliriant. toxic as fuck and horrible.
yes, i experimented with it when i was young and foolish, and it’s complete shit.
@@mj.l is it toxic on the body ? I didn’t know that wow.
@@HairyKnuckles222 incredibly so.
can cause blindness, death etc.
it’s probably the only drug i regret trying - it was just dysphoric and confusing.
Look up Dr dementia and the experiments with hallucinogens to see the effects of different substances to make enemy soldiers unable to function and the chemical referred to as BZ that was a datura alcaloid
Synchronicity, was making/ recording an offline, mp3 version of Hamilton Morris's conversation with Dave Nichols.
I got a contact high listening to this podcast
Methylated amphetamine only achives its euphoria by more easily penetrating the blood brain barrer, and its recreational potential is achieved due to the relatively less stress it puts on the circulatory system.
More of the active compound penetrates the BBB than amphetamine. Equivalent doses are thus less cardiotoxic and cerebrotoxix effects.
Adderal should be Over the Counter….
I would never remove my belief of Cannabis , Alltho amazing plant botanically.
I wouldn’t smoke the dried fruit of a very posioness flour . Check cannaboids , even a small amount of a CB drug can screw up people ….
Meth should be legal over the counter … a common dose of a drug user is 200mg per hit …. When 5mg should be a common dose …. Check Indonesia for example , where their meth is likely more pure less with rat poison , I personally seen people there that been doing meth for over 30 years and completely fine ….
The issue with drugs are impurities, but for example I wouldn’t mind some of them being legal ….
Alltho anything that causes a person to be not productive should be illegal , and with an iron fist ….
Anything that is badly recrystalised or purified , I mean they literally use Mercury to make MDA , or whatever…. And people who take these show signs of the like of workers who work near mercury….
Meth isn’t a big deal , it’s just really sad that people would take more than 15mg , even 2.5mg Adderal (yes prescribed to me 60mg but I give them to friends usually, I also have Alprozolam which I never taken just so a close friend will stop buying that from the street )
Point is , 200mg dose , when 2mg is potent …
I personally believe that it should be legal … along with Ethylamphetamine
Cannabis should be legal because you can predict how much it screw up a person mind if it causes their eyes to go red …
But I guess could be a bit legal if only given in a pill form , a non cannabis , fully synthetic canaboid drug ….
Beside that Meth isn’t too bad seriously , can be an anti depressant too … maybe they can create an analog of it…
Just a notice Methyaltion isn’t really a thing in making of meth , Alltho many ways , I know that there is a thing in Afghanistan where they grow ephemera plant for the extraction of Ephedrine which 300kg of ephedra olant would yield 3kg of Ephedrine … not a big profit for them but okay lol
Methylation is usually more of a slang of heroin production ….
Anyways not gonna protect drugs , addition is real…. But not all drugs should be illegal …. So many chemicals and all of them bad ? So many groups and classes of chemicals , and every group is bad ? Anyways they get a bad name because it turns out mercury is in every drug made ….
Weed is fairly safe as it is because it’s from plant , which synthesizes it perfectslly and doesn’t need a violent reaction. , and precursors which are I moure themselves …
Again weed is bad , should be kept illegal , it seriously changes an individual….
But the war should be on Teflon and Plastic … and then it will naturally come how to clean those posions…
I really wish they developed different classes of Amti depressiants like Bupropion , the Ssri thing is a myth so many dozens of scientists and the common ideas in literature is wrong and bs … depressions causes by a lack of joy …
Even water can be an anti depressant, think of your brain as a chemists that need to creates the many chemicals in the brain … I guess some multi pill form should be developed , like a drug of seductive drugs or whatever and stimulants in them … that are potent but in a 20mg pill …
For examples Cocaine addicts are like that. Because of Fuel poisoning, again see people who work near Fuel factories or any Glue Snuffer kid as he becomes an adult ,
It’s the posions , that make the littature about drugs wrong …
Canaboids no
Slightly similar to a chemical in the body , yes
Too different looking structurally in the body , no it’s a poison .
They are many hormones that can’t really be synthesized, today is very limited in what can actually be done
Regular amphetamine achieves pretty much the same euphoria at similar doses. But you’re right that the less circulatory stress causing people to be able to take more / take it longer
Yes and no, the additional group also has unique action on the release of glutamate, the other derivatives simply do not have that action. While at therapeutic equivalent dosages the glutamate likely has little to no effect for most users minus the modest possibility it improves efficacy for ADHD treatment, at high doses glutamate becomes directly responsible for the excitotoxicity observed in chronic high dose methamphetamine abusers.
as for the circulatory aspect this is the double edged sword, yes it puts very minimal strain on the circulatory system when used as perscribed, but lets be frank stimulant abuse is usually a binge activity and while with amphetamine or dextroamphetamine, though less so with the latter, 2 or 3 days into a run the users going to feel profoundly unwell and it will likely discourage further use, meth can get far more out of hand far easier and has far longer lasting consequences
holy shit why was this not on patreon
It was and is along with an added video interview with him.
Hamilton you don’t drink coffee, I’m interested in what you’re reasoning is and what you believe to be the elite form of caffeine??? (Matcha seems pretty up there based on steady release vs spike, antioxidants, antiviral properties etc etc).
I just can’t get over the smell since I associate it with kratom so closely😂 but what’s the most pleasant for you!?
For reason's that I haven't identified, coffee causes me to experience terrible abdominal pain. It's not the acidity because coffee isn't particularly acidic and I drink more acidic things like orange juice without issue. It's not the caffeine because I can consume large quantities of tea and pure caffeine without issue. It's not the bitterness because I experience the same effect when I drink non-bitter tea from coffee fruit, so it's something related specifically to the coffee plant. I prefer the taste of matcha anyway.
@@HamiltonMorris that’s very interesting! Because i (used to) get horrible abdominal discomfort from green tea! Thought it was maybe the plastic Kuerig pods until one day I drank a bottled green tea at work and got that knot in my tummy and just yacked everywhere. But I guess with green tea a large percentage of the population has a sensitivity(?*)/doesn’t have an enzyme to metabolize one of the tannins found in it. Maybe I worked up a tolerance now, but I always find coffee is an interesting one to ask people about, because even if people are caffeine lovers, sometimes coffee irritates them too much in some way.
And not to generalize, but many bigger fellas I’ve asked say it jus rips up their guts haha but that could be anywhere from hydration levels or how much is in their colon and how active it is I’m guessing.
And hey kind of off topic, but while I’m here: maybe a year or so ago I was reading some study’s on Kratoms possible antiviral/bacterial properties, specifically in regards to preventing contracting salmonella virus. However, when I went back to look it up a couple months later, the web was flooded with fear mongering news about isolated instances of people who contracted salmonella from contaminated kratom due to the manufacturers (unlisted of course, thanks for the harm prevention!). But even with trying all the key words, it was so flooded with what almost appeared to be anti kratom propaganda (although very real, but presumably from the states illegal in? I mean anything can be infected with salmonella, and I don’t even see CHICKEN with this type of mapping of the salmonella outbreaks that they did with this by the cdc!!!! Which is WAY greater ) that all the scientific studies were just impossible to find! I’ll do some more looking right after I post this to see if maybe I’m just tripping, but was something I thought was kind goofy. S/o kratom being the first drug that the people successfully petitioned to stay legal! (Think I learned that one from you!😏). BUT THANKS FOR THE REPLY HAMILTON U MADE MY NIGHT! Keep up the hard work, I love every single video you make and I would single handedly credit you for sparking my curiosity in pharmacology and chemistry in a way that now applies to the everyday way I think and ponder about life! Wish you the utmost best in the remainder of this crazy life!
@@HamiltonMorris and off topic, but had this other realization. About a year ago I was reading multiple studies on kratoms antiviral and antibacterial properties, specifically and predominantly with regards to preventing the contraction of salmonella virus if kratom had been consumed before the salmonella contaminated object was ingested. However, a few months ago I went back to search for the studies again, yet the web was flooded with what *almost* appears to be anti kratom propaganda, diluting any possible scientific backed benefits that it may offer, now with headline after headline of “salmonella contaminated kratom outbreaks”… without listing A SINGLE BRAND!! Pft who needs harm prevention? Get your dose of fear mongering! I mean I cannot find such an elaborately mapped salmonella outbreak for CHICKEN, mf CHICKEN!! Which has more deaths per year compared to 0! After trying all the different keywords and phrases I still cannot find any washed away studies. I’m going to go digging right now so I’ll get back to you if I do, but hey. Ig those people should’ve eaten some non contaminated kratom before eating the salmonella contaminated kratom and they may have been fine (according to studies I cannot cite😂). But s/o kratom for being the first drug that we the people successfully petitioned to fight from it becoming illegal! (Think you taught me that one!😏). THANKS HAMILTON YOU MADE MY NIGHT REPLYING! And I could say I could single handedly credit you for sparking my curiosity for pharmacology and chemistry in such a way which I now interperet and ponder upon the world it’s every day. Keep up the hard work and great scientific revolutions you make! Wish you the utmost, most distinguished remainder of this crazy beautiful thing we call life!
@@HamiltonMorris BLESSED THOU FOR LIFE THY DEARETH HAMILTON🙌 thank you for providing such interesting and profound topics which have sparked my curiosity into pharmacology and chemistry and changes the fundamental way I perceive this world.
Who decided on the name Pervatine?
Sounds bad to me.
German pharmaceutical company Temmler.
@BushyHairedStranger Thanks man. I'll check that out.
It’s cousin pedonine
pervertin
Ovaltine
Wowza Hamilton is looking distinguished.
Americans used it too as Bezendrine
tuned in late and thought hamilton was telling his own story