I used to work on that side (East yard)of Toton back in the late 70's ,Tony Devereaux was out ganger at the time. The gang on the otherside of the sidings (behind the loco shed) was known as Meadow gang,Ron Priest was their ganger. The wages were crap working on the track in them days. 9
0:36 to 0:56 - If that 'Hump Control' operator from the 1950's had still been around in 1996/7, he'd probably be shocked at all that dust on the control panel, not to mention the state of the tower's interior at that point! :D A great finale to a delightful Channel 4 series, topped off wonderfully by the late, great John Peel's narration.
I'll try and find the whole program,any idea what it's called? I remember Toton in the late 70's, it was still very busy but today it's a shadow of it's former self, decimated like our heavy industry by short sighted planning and policy.
Nice vid. Totally different to that now. Had a look last year they are building something else there now.. Any chance I can download this vid ? I have a liitle collection.. Thanks
Fantastic look back at how it was 👍🏻 I can just about remember Toton yard and Tinsley yard with class 76s 😃 You could just Imagine the likes of Amazon doing something like that with hundreds of blue vans radiating out into big sidings instead of all the lorries you see on our motorways 😩 Wishful thinking 🤔
You've not read his report have you? The average wagon spent 11.9 days between one loading and the next, it would spend about 1.5 to 2 days from loading to unloading and travel only 67 miles at 25mph. Now for the bad news. The staging of wagons at marshalling yards was along with trip working was were the costs were the highest. By the time Speedlink the cost of operating the system was roughly 30% for the trunk services and 70% on marshalling, remarshalling enroute and the local grip services. Coal traffic was the only freight flow to make money but only made £2.8million over the cost of providing those services in 1961. And now for the worse news the NCB was using BR wagons as pothead storage for free. As for station coal yards there were 5,031 stations with attached coal yards in 1960, but 1,172 never received a single wagon that year, 1,790 received between 1 and 5 wagons per week accounting for only 1.7 million tons of coal, coke or other solid fuel, whilst at the other end of the scale 64 stations received 50,000 tons or more of coal per year. All other freight flows lost money due to the delays in transit caused by having to remarshal trains enroute. What Beeching wanted was more long distance block trains like the MGR and container trains. The latter would make best use of the railways advantages for long distance block trains.
Nice video and good to hear John Peel's voice...sadly missed.
Glad John Peel brought me some Punk Rock . Cheers Uncle John 😀👍
That was really interesting, I'm a shunter at Toton in 2023 I think we have it easy now.
I remember going in the control tower in the 80's when it was abandoned. It still had electricity buzzing through it.
I used to work on that side (East yard)of Toton back in the late 70's ,Tony Devereaux was out ganger at the time.
The gang on the otherside of the sidings (behind the loco shed) was known as Meadow gang,Ron Priest was their ganger.
The wages were crap working on the track in them days.
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I was half expecting John Peel to say "Now let me play you the soothing sounds of Napalm Deaths new single".
0:36 to 0:56 - If that 'Hump Control' operator from the 1950's had still been around in 1996/7, he'd probably be shocked at all that dust on the control panel, not to mention the state of the tower's interior at that point! :D
A great finale to a delightful Channel 4 series, topped off wonderfully by the late, great John Peel's narration.
Great footage! Thanks for sharing this! 👍🙌
Great to see this clip from Classic Trains! I remember when this was on TV.
Wow used to play in those derelict signal buildings as kids in the late 80s early 90s
Thanks for this upload
Excellent video. So much for progress , get thousands of lorries on the roads.
yes now they are blocking the roads, mmmmm makes sence,
Fascinating video thanks for posting.
With John Peel narrating
Classic bit of the transcript; "...when the wagons run down from the hump into the sardines...."
I'll try and find the whole program,any idea what it's called? I remember Toton in the late 70's, it was still very busy but today it's a shadow of it's former self, decimated like our heavy industry by short sighted planning and policy.
Nice vid. Totally different to that now. Had a look last year they are building something else there now.. Any chance I can download this vid ? I have a liitle collection.. Thanks
I don’t mind if u copy. Plenty of RUclips capture programmes out there
I'm surprised that an enthusiast didn't buy the control panel out of the tower.
Fantastic look back at how it was 👍🏻 I can just about remember Toton yard and Tinsley yard with class 76s 😃 You could just Imagine the likes of Amazon doing something like that with hundreds of blue vans radiating out into big sidings instead of all the lorries you see on our motorways 😩 Wishful thinking 🤔
What!,....no nylons,....Mr Peel?
Aaaagh what a burden on the taxpayer! Get rid of it said Beeching.
You've not read his report have you? The average wagon spent 11.9 days between one loading and the next, it would spend about 1.5 to 2 days from loading to unloading and travel only 67 miles at 25mph. Now for the bad news. The staging of wagons at marshalling yards was along with trip working was were the costs were the highest. By the time Speedlink the cost of operating the system was roughly 30% for the trunk services and 70% on marshalling, remarshalling enroute and the local grip services. Coal traffic was the only freight flow to make money but only made £2.8million over the cost of providing those services in 1961. And now for the worse news the NCB was using BR wagons as pothead storage for free. As for station coal yards there were 5,031 stations with attached coal yards in 1960, but 1,172 never received a single wagon that year, 1,790 received between 1 and 5 wagons per week accounting for only 1.7 million tons of coal, coke or other solid fuel, whilst at the other end of the scale 64 stations received 50,000 tons or more of coal per year. All other freight flows lost money due to the delays in transit caused by having to remarshal trains enroute. What Beeching wanted was more long distance block trains like the MGR and container trains. The latter would make best use of the railways advantages for long distance block trains.
and closed by the labour party