That's why you're not supposed to say anything to them. Talk about everything with everyone near you and make an action just for the government. But that's hard for people who take no steps.
I think the real reason they banned is because Discord is the main platform for organizing against the government and the interests of capital especially among the youth. As long as they don't ban Telegram, WhatsApp and other messaging platforms we'll prolly be fine💀💀💀
@@Kayayosunusanırımsame with how they banned roblox. Also why did they ban wattpad lmao I never understood that was it because of the amount of kilicdaroglu x erdogan fics or what
@@goldenempire9073 Our country has left the istanbul convention Didnt do sh about ANY OTHER case Banned every single app that has got something to do with it Didnt even try to co-operate with discord And still whines about how discord didnt give any info like nga u a grown ass man whats wrong with u? why are u asking discord to have COMPLETE ACCESS over the app
Watching this as a turk im both simultaneously extremely embarrassed to watch this being about my own country while also thankful for it shedding the much needed light on turkeys internal issues.
As a person living in turkey, i would like to thank you for spreading this incident to world. The incident left a huge wound on us and we are still recovering. The guy literally threw Ikbal’s dismembered head in front of her mother… it sounds unbelievable…
Well it's just tolerated by the Government for some reason. And as a German, I don't know why 2/3 of the 1,5 million Turks living in Germany have voted for Erdogan, while living in complete safety.
@@phoenixoflight224 they're the same as the people who immigrate to Europe from oppressive regimes and demand sharia law there. They have the luxury of not suffering the consequences of their actions. We don't even consider them as Turks anymore.
@@phoenixoflight224 turks in germany are incredibly different from turks in turkey, i feel like im looking at aliens when i see them honestly. I don't want to generalize but they are so insensitive and care so little about turkey its crazy
imagine a friend of your child telling you your kid lost its phone, and when arriving at said location, getting your childs dismembered head thrown onto you. That would be traumatizing for life.
@@anacecherry i have to correct your comment. Allegedly Ikbal was his ex girlfriend and Ayşenur (the girl he murdered in her house) was his current gf. Appearently ikbal and semih had an history but they broke up but that didnt stop him to disturb her. She and her family reported him before but as expected nothing happened. And semih's family told them to move another city because their son is obsessed with their daughter. They couldnt move but ikbal left school and continued her education online. She never left home alone because she knew a psychopath wants to murder her but no one could've done anything about it.
Semih was hella obsessed with Ikbal, which resulted in her having to drop out of school and not being able to leave her home all alone (however, it doesnt make sense as to why she was outside all alone on the day she got murdered). This went on for 4-5 years if im not wrong. Semih even got sued by Ikbals family, since he didnt stop all the stalking and trying to approach her, but nothing came out of it. So in order for Ikbals family to let her go out alone in safety, he started dating Ayşenur a year ago and tried to convince Ikbals family that he was done with Ikbal and didnt have or want to have anything to do with their daughter anymore. The family wasnt convined. So basically, Ikbal and Semih used to be a "thing"/couple for a while years ago, but then he started dating Ayşenur and used her.
It’s the first time I’m watching one of your videos (I was just summoned as a Turk here) and I really wanted to thank you for making a video about these incidents. As a girl myself I am not feeling safe anymore, I don’t even know if the police or my family could help me if something like that happens to me. The government doesn’t cares about us. I am a person who saw the earthquake and I unfortunately can say that they even managed to get some politics into that accident (like sending help to the cities who mostly voted for them faster etc.). They practically left us to die. I’m furious okay? Because even now there are people in my city that are struggling to rebuilding their life after the earthquake. My friends died because they were f*cking late that night in the freezing cold. And now the women are dying everyday because of some sick people. I can’t take it anymore but I don’t know what to do as a teenager myself.
I feel you. I know what you went through. Güçlü olmak çok zor farkındayım böyle zamanlarda insanın hiçbir şey yapası gelmiyor umutsuz hissediyor. Ama yapabilirsin. Yalnız hissetsen de yalnız değilsin bunu bil❤
Relax, you are not at risk from getting murdered randomly in Turkey. It says 33 woman were murdered in August, comparison: In the USA 350 women are murdered every single month. Would you be afraid to go the US because of this? Every femicide, while extremely tragic of course!!, is massively overblown on social media. Also, almost all of those 33 murderes are done by family or husband. So unless you have a pschopathic boyfriend or husband, you are not in danger in Turkey. Men are not randomly killing women there
Fun fact: I am from Turkey and an assault carried out by a few armed terrorists today in our capital city and the government blocked RUclips after that. So im using a Vpn to write this comment now . Really tragicomic.
@@rottershier6775 yeah it doesnt solve any problems. Just people dont learn about details of the situation. I dont really know if the government thinks it helps in any way.
@@rottershier6775 The government %100 control over the narrative. So they’ll ban information about it so they can get their version of events out before anyone else
@@rottershier6775 It's not meant to help. Turkey is currently being ruled by an autocrat dictator who is controlling the flow of information so that his shortcomings aren't as visible as they would otherwise be. Erdoğan is protecting his power, his goal is not and has never been to help anyone.
@@Kao91772Right wing libeterian ugh. Do you even know what that means? You basically want us to become America like it wasnt gross enough? Dictatorships sucks but at least when the leader dies you can change the system. Liberal governments cant do that. America needs to rebuild whole country to get rid of rich oligarchic government.
As a Turk, I'm not kidding, whe have one of the worst justice systems in the world. We can't feel safe anymore. Edit: I started a whole new war in the reply section
Don't worry, you as a society have not been disgraced, your government has. People on most of the world have shittier governments than they would like so they usually differentiate the government from the country it governs in their minds. So Turkey does not feel disgraded, only the Turkish government.
dünyayı ve özellikle avrupayı çok fazla umursama. israil gazzede avrupanın silahlarıyla mühimmatıyla kaç tane kadını parçaladı kaç tane çocuğu doğradı eğer biraz cesaretleri varsa bu mevzuları da masaya yatırsınlar
@@diablo.the.cheater Not true, general Turkish values and politics is framed as "Erdogan's personal interests" in Western media. E.g. all Turks are against Fethullah Gulen, including those that hate Erdogan, but in Western media it's framed as if only Erdogan's supporters are against Fethullah Gulen. That's true about PYD in Syria, North Cyprus, LGBT, and the issue with Greece too.
amk, dünyanin bütün serefsizleri türkiyede yasiyor. Avrupa da böyle rezalet olur mu hic? Her gün Müge Katil ariyor amk. Cahil ve kalitesis Insan cok Türkiyede.
Turkish government in tl;dr (as I am a native): >2 kids fought in a school, close the school >some people were inside a conflict in a street, close the street >Some guy did some nasty stuff in a social media app, close the app (they think the people who use it also get trapped inside the app that way) >Do ANYTHING but attempt catching who was responsible for the incident, win!
THANKS SO MUCH FOR MAKİNG A VİDEO ABOUT THİS its so nice to see people from other countrys get information on what shenanigans happening here Turkey is getting worse each day :(.
Wow, as a Turkish person, this video was really embarrassing. And, as you mentioned in the video, old people think that Discord is literally spawn of devil. On a news channel they talked about how when you access a discord server you would get in the dark web and play games like Blue Whale. THIS WAS ON NATIONAL TV! And the guy on TV who said this was introduced as an Expert in online matters. Yeah, there is no doubt that half the reason they banned Discord was to satisfy people over the age of 40.
Well, I am over 40 and I am using discord. I cant talk about everyone of my generation but it is not about age, it is more about education. There are younger people I know who believe in this stuff and it is worrying.
In 2023 earthquake in Turkey we united via discord. Reached and helped people from discord because our phone lines couldn't handle all the people's call attempts.(They even shut the internet for a while)
Just wanna tell you all the funds and donations to people in need that got affected by the earthquake didn't go to the people it was used by government to build cami's and not houses for people m
@@thykasuo I live in a place where earthquake didn't happen thankfully but we are just used to these stuff hopefully when next election we will choose someone new which is in 2029 I think lol. Anyway thanks for your concerns though
Aynen öyle. Türk gençliği olarak örgütlenmek ve protestoları koordine etmek için kullandığımız platform genel olarak Discord olduğu için yasakladılar. Korkuyorlar halklararası dayanışmadan, hemde çok.
@@Gentelman-j7c I'm a conservative in America and I get annoyed by the "men are evil" narrative but then videos like these make me think our woke culture is not that bad after all
As a Turkish person living in Turkiye, i have to say you covered everything, and i mean EVERYTHING about this perfectly, i would never expect a forgein content creator to make a video about this and be THIS accurate. I couldnt explain to anyone the big picture of why turkey banned discord because its a messy web of events and things connecting to eachother, but you spent your time researching and putting them all together for the video it seems! Im very thankful to you for giving time and work to this, because i really needed a video like this to tell my friends why exactly it was banned while looking for tweets online to show them or remember everything myself. Our government is... quite incompetent to deal with stuff like this. The ban on instagram which happened like a month or two ago, was because our president of communications posted an instagram story condolancing the then killed HAMAS leader, and it was removed. And turkey banned instagram due to misinformation. They banned roblox for child safety, but in reality it is because a famous youtuber played roblox and it featured games like "escape from the tax man" while a nextbot of our president was chasing the players (there are a lot of taxes here). And as you said towards the end, them banning discord due to not being able to controll it as they please and spy on us makes perfect sense. I may have yapped a bit, and i apologize. But im just glad someone finally made a video about this and it couldnt have done better and more in-depth. Thank you NTTS! Greetings from Turkiye!
Government just lost track of everything. Shit's piling up and they have no idea what to do. They need to do better. The opposition isn't any good either.
I'm disgusted a video like this even needs to be made. Atatürk would've been horrified, I'm sure (and he's probably spinning in his grave so fast at what Erdogan is doing). Justice for Aysenur and Ikbal. Justice for all women.
We thank you for your support on this issue because no matter how much we have expressed these for years, we have never been able to make our voices heard.
There are men being executed in the middle of a street. There are men being shot while they work. Nobody talks about them. Nobody even knows about them. We all know only about the women because the news with the title "femicide" is apparently more important.
I like how Turkey says the evil gays are a threat to children and family values, and takes immediate action against them. However when people quite literally are directly attacking and harming children, it’s takes them years to do anything. Makes a whole lot of sense to me
It's just a smokescreen, as usual. "OooOOOOooo gay people spoopy" while ignoring an actual Great Unclean One sitting right in the middle of the room, yodelling with nary a care for the world.
THANK YOU FOR TALKING DAMN we really needed someone to talk for us thank u so much im so happy such a big person with a huge heart talks about the problems we have in this country
I feel so bad for the mother. I can't imagine going to a place, thinking you're going to receive your child's phone, getting their dismembered head thrown at you. Hearing about in of itself sounds mortifying, I didn't even experience it. I can't imagine what the mother is going through.
complete propaganda and straw-manning, he kept bringing unrelated crimes that are common worldwide and in fact much more in west europe and US, then attribute it to anti-women rights.
The reason gay relationships don't fit Turkey's "family values" is because they aren't producing more people for the government to brainwash, work to death, and tax every breath they take. So what did they do? They removed protection from all women because gay women apparently aren't women and "abused" it to their advantage. Boils my blood how stupid it is. Nobody sane with the option of leaving the country would stay here.
As a Turkish woman, thank you SO MUCH for shining light on a problem that has been ignored far too long. Banning discord will change absolutely nothing because they are ignoring the root of the problem, which is the raging misogyny in this country. It saddens me seeing femicide in the news as often as I do and I’m so happy I discovered your channel last week, the timing was impeccable! Also, I had no idea there had been a data breach in e-devlet, now I fear for my family’s data. Please keep up the good work and research, this could be saving lives out there. Thank you!!
@@skyr3x the authorities didn't want to help his father who, from what I read, was trying to keep him locked up because he felt his son was a danger to society. I saw some of the "art the son drew and it was very disturbing how he recreated it
@@deltasaves na, he saw all the shit he did and instead of actually doing something a parent should do he ignored everything and said "I dIdNt KnOw hEd Do ThAt"
this sheds a light on the workd of the middle eastern world as someone not from turkey (kuwait) my dearest regards to the familes of those who have been harmed, i hope they find peace mashallah
@ Murders per capita in Turkey are less than half of the world average. Contrary to this video, there is no "particularly extraordinary" situation. Crimes are committed in every country
Provide mental health help to people ❌ Arrest murderers ❌ Sign the convention adding rules protecting women ❌ Properly asking Discord for information ❌ Banning Discord ✅
This is the what the goverment want to do and they use the hate agenst the crime to do what they want and they have their desire. Our peoples are idiots they can't think. They so much love to lose their freedom of speak. Meh i dont give f.
There is seriously something wrong with Turkey. Their life is miserable but they have immense national pride. It's always somebody else's fault, the government, the backwards boomers, the degenerate younger generation, the foreigners. It's almost like the toxic muslim culture of " never admitting you made a mistake" is not working out very well
Well, sadly this isn't uncommon in any part of the world But yes, our justice system sucks, but before you blame Erdoğan, he never had enough power in the parliament to change the constitution that's from the coup still, now he has and he is initializing major changes in the system
I appreciate the research you've made. This is all extremely accurate. As a Turkish person, I am embarrassed and sick of living here. The social media ban is a regular thing in our daily lives at this point.
As a turkish uni student who lives a few minutes away from the crime scene and being a woman myself, i cant even get shocked when i hear those murder news. The earthquacke, femicides and now a terrorist attack happened in Ankara, right after one of our famous (?) Politician invited the terrorist leader and offered "peace". And of course our government blocked access to social media for the solution of those events. I know my english is too bad and i couldn quite express myself but what i mean is after everything that happened i'm so scared, anxious, hopeless, depressed but the worst part is i'm so used to it. I dont get surprised when pepper spray prices increased, socials banned, or a woman murdered... These are now just a normal day event in my country and unfortunatelly i'm used to it now
@@rpst39 when you think about it... everything is shit, our people is shit, our education is shit, our politics are shit. there is a reason why i rarely check turkish media anymore
I am a Turk, I do not know much English so I am writing from translation. Such incidents have unfortunately increased in our country, I am ashamed of my own country, our state and our country are not beautiful, their history is beautiful.. It is really sad that instead of fixing the economy, they see the solution as closing down the applications instead of harsher penalties. Being a woman in Turkey is like hell.
Congrats to you bro. As a Turkish guy youve made a video even turkish youtuber couldn’t do with that much detail. Appreciate your hard work and sensivity about the case
Thank you for talking about this issue. There are many incidents like this in our country and many incidents are forgotten after enough time has passed. We have nothing to do but hope that things will get better, but they don't.
That was a really imformative, high quality video. I love the speed of the voice, the editing, the timing, the content, I watched the video in full length without pausing because it captivated my full attention. I subscribed to your channel. Really amazing narrative style.
As a Turk, banning discord won’t help, these same people who do this stuff already used vpns, the same people are probably laughing at this mocking the government, the problem isn’t discord, discord could be more helpful by cooperating with the Turkish government yes. But these same people can go on telegram or other apps like that. Our government is a disgrace Edit: I’ve seen someone blame our culture for this in the comments, it’s not our culture you’re clearly on something Edit 2: A lot of people have a misconception about our government in the replies, please do you research and come back
the worst part is that the people who know how to buy government record definitely know how to use a VPN, and they can always extort people better if others think just being on discord is now evil so you would be shunned as evil if anyone without a brain knew, and that can be easily used as a threat
As a Turkish woman, this is so infuriating. I cant even put into words the extend of my emotions. I'm angry, frustrated, scared but mostly just angry. I love my country but these insane old men are ruining it, prisons are safer than the streets.
@@ShakirUddin-hu3gk it's my country. Way to derail the topic from a comment about the femicide happening in Turkey. Im not saying the topic you brought up is insignificant but bring up the topic when it is relevant and not shadowing other serious things. Femicide is an ongoing problem in Turkey.
@@ShakirUddin-hu3gk Please name your country so i can justify everything bad happening to you is because of your country doing something a couple hundred years ago. There is a brain inside your skull, you should use it.
my country lore: Fix the fucking economy ❌ Better education system ❌ Better Healthcare ❌ Fix environmental issues ❌ Fix refugee issues ❌ put the bad guys in jail ❌ Fix terrorism ❌ BAN ROBLOX AND DISCORD ✔✔✔✔✔HELLL YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ✔✔✔✔✔✔✔
As a Turkish woman, I was wondering if you would make a video about this. Edit: I made the comment before I finished. It was a great coverage. Thank you for your through research and sharing this story.
Sadly. On a more sad note there was a scandal where public numbers say 20 babies were basically killed so the hospital owners could get richer from insurency fraud. The thing is our government should have known about this First report was on 7 march 2023 and first operation was on 27th of april 2024 but those hospitals closed just now because of the backlash
They sometimes don't move even with pressure, eg. Narin incident. It's fucking obvious who did it. A damn village in the middle of nowhere is somehow resisting police investigation? More like the police were told to act lazy, because apparently even shitty village ağas have a lot of connections normal people doesn't have.
As a turkish person, i literally hate the people who lead this country and how they just ban everything and close their eyes just like nothing happened.
Yet another Turk here saying thanks for bringing light into how idiotic our government is. Great video, and thanks for taking your time to research everything thoroughly
@@somenameidk5278 No, I mean Discord doesn't follow its own rules. This is the main reason why Discord is a dangerous place. If Discord moderated its own platform in the beginning. Discord wouldn't become a topic on the Turkish Media.
@@Lucid._KrdTurkey is ruled by an alliance of Turkish and Kurdish politicians at the moment. If government is murdering anyone it's not because they're Turkish Kurdish etc. it's neat they're reckless and careless of human lives.
@@Lucid._KrdLMAO WHAT😂😂😂😂im Kurdish who lives in gaziantep(as you can see from my pfp,Gaziantep sport team),we speak Kurdish freely and theres no violence in anywhere
As a turkish girl who has just turned 18, thank you so much for this video. You have no idea how horrible it is to live in a country like this. I cant even talk to my friends on games without filtering the informations i give them. With just simple info like my name and the city i live in they can find me and threaten me. I follow you since like 2021. I loved your channel and I love it even more now. From the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for this. Thank you so much for making our voice and our stories heard even if its just this single video. Keep up the good work of yours.
@@acaciaq They've never seen what it's like. They see a ban of their favorite app and go "government bad!!!". Kids cannot see the bigger picture. Not saying the government is in the right but it's not so black and white as they think it is.
turkey has a really bad diplomacy system and the government thinks if you ban an app all the bad people inside it will stay inside, which is really dumb. Turkey has banned other essential apps like youtube and wikipedia too, and there is an economical crisis rn making all of this way worse. The current president has been president for 20+ years and he is pretty hated by the turkish public. And you can basically get sexually harassed or get killed in the street just because you bump into an angry teen or smth. it really is like war.
🤨for someone who likes superheroes your turning a blind eye to the problems especially by saying everything is fine while kids are being abused and women are being killed what a twat.@@shazamnegroid7379
@@shazamnegroid7379 according to this video that i assume we both watched, the turkey/turkiye government left the istanbul convention and in doing that took away women's protection... so that they could be homophobic And by taking away these protections, they end up allowing more harm to be done Correct me if i got this wrong but something about the several turkish people in the comments complaining about the turkish government tells me I'm not far off-
@@Mr.Birb- The government not protecting women did not hurt them, some random mentally ill reta did. Blaming the government for something that they didn't do is wild. As for all the people complaining, they are weak and complain for the wrong reasons. I even saw a comment talk about how people are leaving to germany for THIS. As a Turkish person, it is incredibly amusing to see the snowflakes melt under erdogan's sun.
the ironic thing about this part " 1:56 " is that yeaars ago in like 2005 he said he would protect homosexuals and their rights my man did a whole 180 degree turn back
another thing is semih was stalking ikbal for a looong while like 5 years and semih told her to do a double suicide with him of course ikbal didn't accept it so his first suicide attempt was failed because of that he was also in possession of dr#gs and the family knew about it but didn't say anything, he was also ignoring the medicines given by the physcs he said he didn't need them and the family didn't say anything again... it could also be pretty likely he chose to become a butcher to fulfil his desire and learn how to cut things swiftly this could have easily been prevented if the family didn't ignore their childrens problems. life of 3 people was indeed ruined..
i also forgot to mention ikbals death could have happened a year ago because semih contacted ikbal like a year ago back then saying things about meeting up she said okay but didn't come to the given location then semih texted her a video talking about how he was going to kill her and rip her heart out of if she did infact came there he was also talking about he is going to kill himself and he must take a life with him and she seemed worthy
My mom and dad actually got pissed because they knew that i used discord to talk with strangers and to have fun but the ban had made it difficult for me to talk to people who are not turkish, my mom and dad really values english or any foreign language. So because of the ban i can't talk to my friends who live in USA, Germany, Russia etc. Edit: I use Proton VPN
we literally fucked up man.. i cant even trust my people. well at the end of the day what can we say right.pfff its getting worse day by day..im fucking tired. my homeland getting weird. thanks for your hard work and the content.❤
I almost cried during the earthquake part of the video. It was really traumatic that when we were trying to reach people and help them through Twitter, they blocked it. We were operating a help group on whatsapp and Twitter was helping us a lot to get info about specific apartments' situation.
Shame to the Turkish government who doesn’t protect women and children in their country! My thoughts and prayer are with the people that are affected by those disturbing incidents 🇬🇷❤️🇹🇷
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As a turk, your video helped me a lot on the actual case. News reports over here in Turkey didnt give any of this information, especially the fact that Turkey was just asking for.. literally everything from discord, which was why discord didnt comply with the request.
Yes, as a turkish person everybody over the age of 30 in turkey thinks discord is like a harmful / explicit / just generally a bad platform , instead of actually working towards fixing this problem the government just bans a chatting program. like what the hell?
My Turkish husband is in his 40s (I'm in my 30s), we both used Discord here in Turkey before it was banned and never thought it was harmful. Every platform has its good and bad side. Reddit, facebook, instagram, Tumblr, TikTok, Twitch, etc. etc. etc. If the Turkish government is bent on trying to pretend to protect its citizen, might as well tell everyone to stay home, keep their stoves and heaters off, lights off, don't drink water in case someone drowns by drinking it, etc. I'm shocked the government hasn't banned the entire internet.
@@giftofspeech yeah, me and my friends think they will just shut down the whole country lol. The government doesnt think that these people can use other apps or programs like skype and stuff.
Hello. As someone from Turkey, I want to clarify the events. Turkey is a country that is not free on the internet. The government does not censor what needs to be censored on the internet, but whatever they want to censor. The reason Twitter was closed during the earthquake was so that the images of the earthquake would not spread on the internet and the government would not be harmed. If you criticize the government on the internet, you will be sued because the government does not want to be harmed. Our government is so bad that instead of re-signing the Istanbul Convention to prevent femicides and preventing this, they want to make it seem like they have solved the problem by shutting down older people's Discord. Just today, 23.10.2024, there was a terrorist attack in the capital of Turkey and an immediate news broadcast ban was imposed, the reason being that this attack would be less heard and the government would not be harmed. If you have any questions, I can answer them.
@@protoncracker_xp as a woman in turkey i've been not going out since the Semih Celik's incident cause what may happen to me. As for the terrorist attack it was probably to twist the news about "yenidoğan" gang who are healthcare workers that have been misdiagnosising the babies and malpracticing them and ending up killing infants to get the poor babies insurance money. long story short it's a all a play to the gov. neither our lives nor the babies, childs, women matter.
@@protoncracker_xp as a woman in turkey i've been not going out since the Semih Celik's incident cause what may happen to me. As for the terrorist attack it was probably to twist the news about "yenidoğan" gang who are healthcare workers that have been misdiagnosising the babies and malpracticing them and ending up killing infants to get the poor babies insurance money. long story short it's a all a play to the gov. neither our lives nor the babies, childs, women matter.
In Brazil, recently, a group EXACTLY like this got investigated and some arrests were made. No ban on Discord was issued, yet, I'm afraid it is just a question of time.
Best video on any subject related to Turkey, in terms of telling objectively what "we neutral" people in Tutkey feel, talk, experience and go throug. Even compared to local sources. Congrats to the channel.
It's very important for you to cover this topic. Thank you very much. If you can add turkish subs, it would really help to share this topic with turkish friends and family. As you know it's really hard to stay informed in turkey. I believe there are turkish speaking members in your community that help with that. I don't know if you'll see this but I would be really happy to help as well. I have my email at the about section on my youtube page. Thank you again for talking about this, you managed to do it very respectfully. Thank you.
Ngl Living with Turkish family is a pain in the ass they are nice there loving but the moment u speak another language or do something that's not common for them it appears as a problem for them they say shit like u are born as a turk u should speak turk speaking other languages is not that important or they connect it to religion which is yk not okey at all. And yes I am Turkish.
Hello, I'am writing from Turkey. Everything that is told in this video is true and worse continues to happen in the country. As if what is happening in the country is not painful enough, it makes me very sad that other nations see us like this. But unfortunately, what is happening is real. Thank you very much for making this video and for your work. You have raised awareness for our country. Thank you very much. I hope y'll stay safe. sorry for my english if its bad or hard to understand. 🙏🏻
The Turkish Government not only failed those women, but it failed to protect it's own people by casting blame on the LGBTQI+ community for their own gross actions by removing the Instanbul convention from it's law. May those two girls who died find peace and may her killers (Both the monster and the people who failed them) rest in shame.
Türkiye gov does not blame LQBTQIFHGEUFKINMVVRR+ or what the fuck does the rest is. I dont even sure they know what LGBTQI+ is. They blame the people who doesnt think the same thing with them
What do you think? You signa document and automatically people stop commiting crimes against women? These treaties are just symbolic things what matters is what do you actually do to stop this and its good to see governments do stuff towards combating this stuff whether or not they virtue signal through some treaty absolutely doesn't matter. We see everyday how many countries go and talk utopian things at UN and then go home and commit crimes against civilians of other nations and even their own nations.
@@falcon_224 You fail to see the link between treaties, law and prosecutions. When a country signs a treaty, it intends to later write up laws based on that treaty, and once those laws come into effect, they will bring in the change that the treaty described (assuming nothing in this process fails). Educate yourself, i beg of you.
The situation just emphasized how important it is to consult the young people on how to use the social medias in order to prevent cybercrimes effectively
You're a youtuber I used to follow for some weird discord tricks, now I have massive respects seeing you make serious content and make them this well researched (i live in turkey and wasnt aware of the full situation).
i am REALLY happy you decided to talk about this topic because there are many people who dont know the entirety of the story, some old people thinking discord is a place for illegal activities, some young people thinking they banned discord for absolutely no reason(which could be true but thats just one out of many possible scenarios) and people shit talking discord for not doing anything about these crimes (which could also be the case but again, its just a single scenario out of many)
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"Fun" fact: Pepper spray prices increased after these cases.
just shows how turkish people hate themselves
🙁🙁
what
@@Ezcte Yeah... 😕 People also blamed the little girl and said she was satanist and wanted semih to kill her...
@@uzaycbilgekz yuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh
If you say something against the government you go to jail, but a man with a 30-crime record doesn't.
i fucking hate erdogan
Facts
That's why you're not supposed to say anything to them. Talk about everything with everyone near you and make an action just for the government. But that's hard for people who take no steps.
Like that one Florida man
@@SimpleTakes0 and then there's the other florida man tanking a whole damn water cannon
Told you guys our government is dumb af
It's kinda good that discord got banned because it's full of pedos
evet knk
true bro true, we gotta suffer 😔😔
Shit maybe if they didnt have a hate boner for anything slightly lgbt we would be better off.
yep, what would you expect.
Yurt dışı haberlere de çıkmışız. Hayırlı uğurlu olsun
Bu şekilde çıkmak güzel bir şey mi 😢 2 tane gencecik kızlarımıza yazık oldu sorumsuz aileler yüzünden herkes çocuk sahibi olmamalı
@Angelaaaaaaaaaaa77777 katiliyorum
he
utanmamız lazımken gülüyoruz ...
@@floramsi kafalar hoş
“We did it Patrick! We saved the city!” -Turkish Officials
Fr😭 wow banned discord now all problems are solved
IM CRYING HAHAHA
I think the real reason they banned is because Discord is the main platform for organizing against the government and the interests of capital especially among the youth. As long as they don't ban Telegram, WhatsApp and other messaging platforms we'll prolly be fine💀💀💀
The ones who banned discord thinks like that. They banned Instagram once. They think restrict our freedom is solution. (I am Turkish btw)
@@Kayayosunusanırımsame with how they banned roblox. Also why did they ban wattpad lmao I never understood that was it because of the amount of kilicdaroglu x erdogan fics or what
The worst part is pepper spray and self defense tools are 450% to 500% more expensive.
Time to watch tutorials on how to make our own
@@i_draw_whatever18 be careful to not go overkill
then how i buy ? amk
@@i_draw_whatever18a deodorant can and lighter go hard
@@sametkucuk7305çakmak + deodorant = flamethrower aga kullan işe yarar.
it's like getting your finger infected and the doctor decides to amputate your entire foot
yes, foot.
Why stop at foot, lets remove leg and tax you for it since you need to pay leglessnes tax now.
and this finger was left hand's pinkie
wrong analogy, its like amputating your other finger- an unrelated one
The foot is also unrelated... But you get the point anyway..@@ruzgaryasar4041
@@ruzgaryasar4041 amputating the foot is more unrelated than the other finger, it's an even more correct analogy
Bunu duyduğuma üzüldüm. Türk halkının ne kadar dayanıklı olduğunun farkındayım. Geçmis olsun Türk kardeşlerim. Kazakistan'dan selamlar.
My country:
Put bad people in prison ❌
Ban every fucking app ✔
They are literally arresting kids who are guilty. Did you not watch the video?
@@haloninjax542 They would rather find another way to whine about those in power.
@@goldenempire9073
Our country has left the istanbul convention
Didnt do sh about ANY OTHER case
Banned every single app that has got something to do with it
Didnt even try to co-operate with discord
And still whines about how discord didnt give any info
like nga u a grown ass man whats wrong with u? why are u asking discord to have COMPLETE ACCESS over the app
@@goldenempire9073 🤡
@@goldenempire9073 I mean do you actually think that the Turkish president has done anything right?
Watching this as a turk im both simultaneously extremely embarrassed to watch this being about my own country while also thankful for it shedding the much needed light on turkeys internal issues.
even north cyprus (a country only turkey recognizes) is better than turkey
Yes, it's getting worse and worse gradually.
Why should you be embarrassed? It has nothing to do with you
@@kayaegemen7855 it's getting worse since Atatürk died, the only time it got a bit better was back in 2000s, where it started to get worse again
@@atsizbalik are you homosexual
Turkey:- Do the right thing - ❌
Do the most unrelated things and cause public outrage. - ✔✔✔
The only right thing from them was them banning Roblox for not protecting minors from creeps
@@iceresistance parental controls exist
@@iceresistance
Yeah, it’s just kinda sad that they had to ban a whole app because parents aren’t doing their jobs as parents 😭🙏
yup. the AKP party is just a group that focuses on their own monthly paycheck.
@@chiro921Things like that make me feel like it should be mandatory to go to some kind of parenting class before having kids in this era 😭
As a person living in turkey, i would like to thank you for spreading this incident to world. The incident left a huge wound on us and we are still recovering. The guy literally threw Ikbal’s dismembered head in front of her mother… it sounds unbelievable…
This is what radical secular system of indoctrination does to peoples minds
Well it's just tolerated by the Government for some reason. And as a German, I don't know why 2/3 of the 1,5 million Turks living in Germany have voted for Erdogan, while living in complete safety.
@@phoenixoflight224 they're the same as the people who immigrate to Europe from oppressive regimes and demand sharia law there. They have the luxury of not suffering the consequences of their actions. We don't even consider them as Turks anymore.
@@phoenixoflight224 Ikr I just don't understand why they have the right to,vote anyways they don't live there anymore
@@phoenixoflight224 turks in germany are incredibly different from turks in turkey, i feel like im looking at aliens when i see them honestly. I don't want to generalize but they are so insensitive and care so little about turkey its crazy
Fix the economy ❌
Fix terrorism ❌
Ban discord✔
Theres isnt anymore terrorism in turkey though
soo right bro 😢
Russia:
true
Erdoğan is just trolling Türkiye at this point
imagine a friend of your child telling you your kid lost its phone, and when arriving at said location, getting your childs dismembered head thrown onto you. That would be traumatizing for life.
Edit: Guys I get it you don't need to send the same exact reply again.
@@anacecherry i have to correct your comment. Allegedly Ikbal was his ex girlfriend and Ayşenur (the girl he murdered in her house) was his current gf. Appearently ikbal and semih had an history but they broke up but that didnt stop him to disturb her. She and her family reported him before but as expected nothing happened. And semih's family told them to move another city because their son is obsessed with their daughter. They couldnt move but ikbal left school and continued her education online. She never left home alone because she knew a psychopath wants to murder her but no one could've done anything about it.
Semih was hella obsessed with Ikbal, which resulted in her having to drop out of school and not being able to leave her home all alone (however, it doesnt make sense as to why she was outside all alone on the day she got murdered). This went on for 4-5 years if im not wrong. Semih even got sued by Ikbals family, since he didnt stop all the stalking and trying to approach her, but nothing came out of it. So in order for Ikbals family to let her go out alone in safety, he started dating Ayşenur a year ago and tried to convince Ikbals family that he was done with Ikbal and didnt have or want to have anything to do with their daughter anymore. The family wasnt convined. So basically, Ikbal and Semih used to be a "thing"/couple for a while years ago, but then he started dating Ayşenur and used her.
@@_fireinthewater_ no, your comment is wrong
@@Ilyanna187thats ikbal, not aysenur. Aysenur was his gf
When it starts with the words "3 dead" you know this video will be wild
yep, crazy
Fr
real
yup
yeah
It’s the first time I’m watching one of your videos (I was just summoned as a Turk here) and I really wanted to thank you for making a video about these incidents. As a girl myself I am not feeling safe anymore, I don’t even know if the police or my family could help me if something like that happens to me. The government doesn’t cares about us. I am a person who saw the earthquake and I unfortunately can say that they even managed to get some politics into that accident (like sending help to the cities who mostly voted for them faster etc.). They practically left us to die. I’m furious okay? Because even now there are people in my city that are struggling to rebuilding their life after the earthquake. My friends died because they were f*cking late that night in the freezing cold. And now the women are dying everyday because of some sick people. I can’t take it anymore but I don’t know what to do as a teenager myself.
I feel you. I know what you went through. Güçlü olmak çok zor farkındayım böyle zamanlarda insanın hiçbir şey yapası gelmiyor umutsuz hissediyor. Ama yapabilirsin. Yalnız hissetsen de yalnız değilsin bunu bil❤
I truly hope things get better for you
geçmis olsunkardesim
Relax, you are not at risk from getting murdered randomly in Turkey. It says 33 woman were murdered in August, comparison: In the USA 350 women are murdered every single month. Would you be afraid to go the US because of this? Every femicide, while extremely tragic of course!!, is massively overblown on social media. Also, almost all of those 33 murderes are done by family or husband. So unless you have a pschopathic boyfriend or husband, you are not in danger in Turkey. Men are not randomly killing women there
@@beyza4339this is why kamalism should be banned in turkey. Dish
Fun fact: I am from Turkey and an assault carried out by a few armed terrorists today in our capital city and the government blocked RUclips after that. So im using a Vpn to write this comment now . Really tragicomic.
I dont get it, how blocking information helps?? Doesnt that make it worse?
@@rottershier6775 yeah it doesnt solve any problems. Just people dont learn about details of the situation. I dont really know if the government thinks it helps in any way.
@@rottershier6775 The government %100 control over the narrative. So they’ll ban information about it so they can get their version of events out before anyone else
@@rottershier6775 It's not meant to help. Turkey is currently being ruled by an autocrat dictator who is controlling the flow of information so that his shortcomings aren't as visible as they would otherwise be. Erdoğan is protecting his power, his goal is not and has never been to help anyone.
@@rottershier6775goverment doesn't wants to be seen in their failure state but well...they are making it worse
Remember kids, the next time somebody tells you "the government wouldn't do that". Oh yes, they will
based as a turkish right wing libertarian
Especially if it's run by fascists
@@Kao91772Right wing libeterian ugh. Do you even know what that means? You basically want us to become America like it wasnt gross enough? Dictatorships sucks but at least when the leader dies you can change the system. Liberal governments cant do that. America needs to rebuild whole country to get rid of rich oligarchic government.
Especially if its the turkish government
That video of Biden eating that guy won't leave my head everytime I read that quote
As a Turk, I'm not kidding, whe have one of the worst justice systems in the world. We can't feel safe anymore.
Edit: I started a whole new war in the reply section
The U.S. is slowly becoming that bad. It’s been rapidly accelerating in recent years
sanki başka yere geçmiceklerde discordu banlıyolar. İnterneti banla millet sokakta insan öldürücek
Im going to turkey now
turkish here, youre correct
are yuo actualy a fridg or are or you faker ??? ?
Tüm dünya tarafından konuşulacak kadar rezil duruma gelmemiz beni utandırıyor...
Sen Batı'lı yazarlara ne bakarsın ki, onlar her zaman Türkiye'yi kötülerler. Kendileri TikTok'u yasaklarken sorun etmiyorlar ama.
Don't worry, you as a society have not been disgraced, your government has. People on most of the world have shittier governments than they would like so they usually differentiate the government from the country it governs in their minds. So Turkey does not feel disgraded, only the Turkish government.
dünyayı ve özellikle avrupayı çok fazla umursama. israil gazzede avrupanın silahlarıyla mühimmatıyla kaç tane kadını parçaladı kaç tane çocuğu doğradı eğer biraz cesaretleri varsa bu mevzuları da masaya yatırsınlar
@@diablo.the.cheater Not true, general Turkish values and politics is framed as "Erdogan's personal interests" in Western media. E.g. all Turks are against Fethullah Gulen, including those that hate Erdogan, but in Western media it's framed as if only Erdogan's supporters are against Fethullah Gulen.
That's true about PYD in Syria, North Cyprus, LGBT, and the issue with Greece too.
amk, dünyanin bütün serefsizleri türkiyede yasiyor. Avrupa da böyle rezalet olur mu hic? Her gün Müge Katil ariyor amk. Cahil ve kalitesis Insan cok Türkiyede.
Turkish government in tl;dr (as I am a native):
>2 kids fought in a school, close the school
>some people were inside a conflict in a street, close the street
>Some guy did some nasty stuff in a social media app, close the app (they think the people who use it also get trapped inside the app that way)
>Do ANYTHING but attempt catching who was responsible for the incident, win!
lol
Another turkish person with a niko pfp lol
It’s like closing down a library because a few people won’t stop making noise. Man.
Maybe they should close the country, that will certainly decrease all crime rates.
Just ban phones bro
Ntts slowly going from discord mod to geopolitics journalist:
fr
fr
if it has to do anything with discord he makes news on it.
Honestly
And I am all in for it.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR MAKİNG A VİDEO ABOUT THİS its so nice to see people from other countrys get information on what shenanigans happening here Turkey is getting worse each day :(.
Thanks I love my country ❤️🇹🇷
@@Cemreaskomolmus3141 bro.
No we doing fine. There are more psychos in america for your information.
why thank him for letting everyone know that they can buy your info for 4 dollars from where?
For some topics like this,it feels like im watching news but not the boring one.Keep up the content bro,we all support you
Turkiye: arresting killers: "no"
trying to stop women abuse: "no"
banning apps/games: "yes"
(im Turk+Ruski so thats why)
Okay
Alright
I'm American and I think y'all suck
yes, thats true. In the news, MURDERERS can be seen killing and are free to go
turkey*
Wow, as a Turkish person, this video was really embarrassing. And, as you mentioned in the video, old people think that Discord is literally spawn of devil. On a news channel they talked about how when you access a discord server you would get in the dark web and play games like Blue Whale. THIS WAS ON NATIONAL TV! And the guy on TV who said this was introduced as an Expert in online matters. Yeah, there is no doubt that half the reason they banned Discord was to satisfy people over the age of 40.
here in Portugal they talked about needing the dark web to access discord like cmon how can people be this dumb it takes 2 seconds to google search it
Omg i can’t🤦♀️ they’re fckn idiots
Only reason they banned discord is to seem like they're doing something while doing nothing
Well, I am over 40 and I am using discord. I cant talk about everyone of my generation but it is not about age, it is more about education. There are younger people I know who believe in this stuff and it is worrying.
@@dielytra Grow up.
In 2023 earthquake in Turkey we united via discord.
Reached and helped people from discord because our phone lines couldn't handle all the people's call attempts.(They even shut the internet for a while)
Just wanna tell you all the funds and donations to people in need that got affected by the earthquake didn't go to the people it was used by government to build cami's and not houses for people m
@@V2Plushi Unfortunately, we are all aware of it... But is there anything you can do? Silivri is a dangerous place fr.
@@thykasuo I live in a place where earthquake didn't happen thankfully but we are just used to these stuff hopefully when next election we will choose someone new which is in 2029 I think lol.
Anyway thanks for your concerns though
@@V2Plushi 😢😥
Aynen öyle. Türk gençliği olarak örgütlenmek ve protestoları koordine etmek için kullandığımız platform genel olarak Discord olduğu için yasakladılar. Korkuyorlar halklararası dayanışmadan, hemde çok.
As a girl living in Turkey, I don't even want to go out and we make pepper spray at home with our own means because the price hike has increased...
Don't exaggerate. I live in Istanbul, and there’s no such situation here
@lanlon11 I live in Istanbul
Girls should be protected at all costs I think If you want to go out bring a relative if you can and if you can't,well I hope nothing bad happens.
@@Gentelman-j7c I'm a conservative in America and I get annoyed by the "men are evil" narrative but then videos like these make me think our woke culture is not that bad after all
@@holtcompass3934These crimes are more common in America than in Turkey. So wokism doesn't work
As a Turkish person living in Turkiye, i have to say you covered everything, and i mean EVERYTHING about this perfectly, i would never expect a forgein content creator to make a video about this and be THIS accurate. I couldnt explain to anyone the big picture of why turkey banned discord because its a messy web of events and things connecting to eachother, but you spent your time researching and putting them all together for the video it seems! Im very thankful to you for giving time and work to this, because i really needed a video like this to tell my friends why exactly it was banned while looking for tweets online to show them or remember everything myself. Our government is... quite incompetent to deal with stuff like this. The ban on instagram which happened like a month or two ago, was because our president of communications posted an instagram story condolancing the then killed HAMAS leader, and it was removed. And turkey banned instagram due to misinformation. They banned roblox for child safety, but in reality it is because a famous youtuber played roblox and it featured games like "escape from the tax man" while a nextbot of our president was chasing the players (there are a lot of taxes here). And as you said towards the end, them banning discord due to not being able to controll it as they please and spy on us makes perfect sense.
I may have yapped a bit, and i apologize. But im just glad someone finally made a video about this and it couldnt have done better and more in-depth. Thank you NTTS!
Greetings from Turkiye!
Government just lost track of everything. Shit's piling up and they have no idea what to do. They need to do better.
The opposition isn't any good either.
It's called turkey like the bird english language doesn't spell like your language
@@lasvista2tech it officially got changed to turkiye
No way they got offended over a nextbot
@@lasvista2tech i support this as a turkish
As a Turkish woman, although this video is deeply embarrassing for us, thank you so much for making our voice heard around the world. ❤
good times are ahead kebab sister
I'm so sorry you all are dealing with this ☹️
allah seni bu tarz insanlardan korusun kardeş.
Ok
I'm disgusted a video like this even needs to be made. Atatürk would've been horrified, I'm sure (and he's probably spinning in his grave so fast at what Erdogan is doing).
Justice for Aysenur and Ikbal. Justice for all women.
I thought my government was stupid, i guess they're not stupid enough
When I’m in the dumbest government competition and my opponent is Turkish government:
this is what you get for being passive
@@HelukfarThats how you know youll lose
@@HelukfarNot stupid. People don't get this. These people are not incompetent they know exactly what they're doing. They are evil.
@@Helukfar 😭
I’m not Turkish but I appreciate you talking about femicide and bringing awareness to it. It breaks my heart as a woman.
We thank you for your support on this issue because no matter how much we have expressed these for years, we have never been able to make our voices heard.
There are men being executed in the middle of a street. There are men being shot while they work. Nobody talks about them. Nobody even knows about them. We all know only about the women because the news with the title "femicide" is apparently more important.
I like how Turkey says the evil gays are a threat to children and family values, and takes immediate action against them. However when people quite literally are directly attacking and harming children, it’s takes them years to do anything. Makes a whole lot of sense to me
It's just a smokescreen, as usual.
"OooOOOOooo gay people spoopy" while ignoring an actual Great Unclean One sitting right in the middle of the room, yodelling with nary a care for the world.
@@crowdemon_archives woah "nary" I like your vocabulary and I agree with you
All thanks to tate and their demonic shills.
Well they are. Now they want to enter women's bathrooms and rapist get to serve time in women's prisons. What is wrong with you?
it's so great, isn't it? "save the children" until actual kids are hurt. then you turn a blind eye!! ENCOURAGE it even! very cool very epic!!!
Russian Ban Video: 50% English Viewer
Turkish ban video: 99% turkish viewer
bro summoning every turkish user
Tabiki
ong. never watched a video of this guy and thought he was a turkish channel for a min.
im ukranian i kinda just watch every video
well youtube is banned in russia either
@@vibernoreply5473no it isnt
THANK YOU FOR TALKING DAMN we really needed someone to talk for us thank u so much im so happy such a big person with a huge heart talks about the problems we have in this country
your problems are just like in ruSSia and they will be fixed the same way by removing main clowns
>SIR thank you for talking SIR I'm fucking Turkish room temperature IQ very dumb I NEED external validation as I cant solve my domestic issues SIR
%80 of the viewers are turks
I feel so bad for the mother. I can't imagine going to a place, thinking you're going to receive your child's phone, getting their dismembered head thrown at you. Hearing about in of itself sounds mortifying, I didn't even experience it. I can't imagine what the mother is going through.
You know you're about to hear the most fucked up shit when someone pulls the "family values"
"family values" is just a meaningless buzzword
complete propaganda and straw-manning, he kept bringing unrelated crimes that are common worldwide and in fact much more in west europe and US, then attribute it to anti-women rights.
i am banning you from turkey for family values 😤😤
The reason gay relationships don't fit Turkey's "family values" is because they aren't producing more people for the government to brainwash, work to death, and tax every breath they take.
So what did they do? They removed protection from all women because gay women apparently aren't women and "abused" it to their advantage. Boils my blood how stupid it is. Nobody sane with the option of leaving the country would stay here.
"famiriy warues"
As a Turkish woman, thank you SO MUCH for shining light on a problem that has been ignored far too long. Banning discord will change absolutely nothing because they are ignoring the root of the problem, which is the raging misogyny in this country. It saddens me seeing femicide in the news as often as I do and I’m so happy I discovered your channel last week, the timing was impeccable! Also, I had no idea there had been a data breach in e-devlet, now I fear for my family’s data. Please keep up the good work and research, this could be saving lives out there. Thank you!!
What's causing your men be like this? Is it from all that kebap and baklava?
@@SourceHades do you think you're funny
@@SourceHades I- ok…
@@SourceHades the ragebait is so obvious atp 💀💀
@@yuri0106 do you think hateing on new born boys till the point they hate you works in the end :)
I hate how these things never happen out of the blue, guy had a huge trail of red flags and still wasnt managed to stop
like, there was a minor (17) who had 71 criminal records who got arrested a few weeks ago
They haven't cared until he acted.
@@unclejohn761 Same sad story no matter where on the world you look
@@skyr3x the authorities didn't want to help his father who, from what I read, was trying to keep him locked up because he felt his son was a danger to society. I saw some of the "art the son drew and it was very disturbing how he recreated it
@@deltasaves na, he saw all the shit he did and instead of actually doing something a parent should do he ignored everything and said "I dIdNt KnOw hEd Do ThAt"
this sheds a light on the workd of the middle eastern world as someone not from turkey (kuwait) my dearest regards to the familes of those who have been harmed, i hope they find peace mashallah
Same. My heart aches for the poor women in turkey
@ Murders per capita in Turkey are less than half of the world average. Contrary to this video, there is no "particularly extraordinary" situation. Crimes are committed in every country
@@metallicroostersailor8105idk man, id consider a government portal getting hacked and leading to mass extortion something only turkey had happen
Provide mental health help to people ❌
Arrest murderers ❌
Sign the convention adding rules protecting women ❌
Properly asking Discord for information ❌
Banning Discord ✅
Turkey actually did have mental hospitals long ago, our president closed those hospitals down and just gives the parents a pay check
They asked
@@saruman1700 if u paid attention, their requests didnt follow discords policy for giving information. they wanted control which discord does not give
welcome to the turkey
Im a survivalist in turkey and if you wonder about how is life for us, read our "normal" topics
@@acmayin that's everywhere in the world my guy
this is like a teacher punishing the entire class because of one kid
Semih Çelik was just one of the people in the issue. His group was too, it's just one server in the whole issue in Turkey.
Worse, this is like your teacher is 5 years old and most of the class gets to babysit him so that he wouldn't harm the rest of the class
This is the what the goverment want to do and they use the hate agenst the crime to do what they want and they have their desire. Our peoples are idiots they can't think. They so much love to lose their freedom of speak. Meh i dont give f.
Except*
Nah this is like the teacher banning writing because one kid wrote some mean stuff
While watching this video, I got a news notification about 3 woman getting murdered... Thank you Turkey.
Same here, solcu gazete
@@josidky2267 Which also got their twitter acc blocked by government request, thank you AKP!
a fucking random 20 year old has faster reports on situations than an entire country with "professionals"
what the fuck?
There is seriously something wrong with Turkey. Their life is miserable but they have immense national pride.
It's always somebody else's fault, the government, the backwards boomers, the degenerate younger generation, the foreigners. It's almost like the toxic muslim culture of " never admitting you made a mistake" is not working out very well
Well, sadly this isn't uncommon in any part of the world
But yes, our justice system sucks, but before you blame Erdoğan, he never had enough power in the parliament to change the constitution that's from the coup still, now he has and he is initializing major changes in the system
I appreciate the research you've made. This is all extremely accurate. As a Turkish person, I am embarrassed and sick of living here. The social media ban is a regular thing in our daily lives at this point.
As a turkish uni student who lives a few minutes away from the crime scene and being a woman myself, i cant even get shocked when i hear those murder news. The earthquacke, femicides and now a terrorist attack happened in Ankara, right after one of our famous (?) Politician invited the terrorist leader and offered "peace". And of course our government blocked access to social media for the solution of those events. I know my english is too bad and i couldn quite express myself but what i mean is after everything that happened i'm so scared, anxious, hopeless, depressed but the worst part is i'm so used to it. I dont get surprised when pepper spray prices increased, socials banned, or a woman murdered... These are now just a normal day event in my country and unfortunatelly i'm used to it now
um acktually your from 🤓☝your from turkiye not from turkey remember?
@@axcurs1133unnecessary comment
Hain rant, lol.
Clearly you struggle to understand politics.
@@Kubilay3502 kubilay ne anlatiyon
@@axcurs1133amk önemli olan bu mu ayrıca Turkey kelimesi kaldirilmadi, sadece resmi belgelerde Türkiye yazma zorunluluğu var (🤓☝️)
not even 2 minutes into the video, his tone is completely serious, this is gonna be wild
4 minutes in and its already crazy.
7 minutes 20 seconds in
From Turkey, pretty accurate video.
The country is fucked man. Government is shit, law is shit.
ı would like your comment but ı am too young for jail
@@Tearycatz just another reason why Turkish government is bullshit
@@Tearycatz yet you comment and agree lmfao
god bless your soul bire min
@@rpst39 when you think about it... everything is shit, our people is shit, our education is shit, our politics are shit. there is a reason why i rarely check turkish media anymore
@@Tearycatz thats what we call auth*tarian regimes.
I am a Turk, I do not know much English so I am writing from translation. Such incidents have unfortunately increased in our country, I am ashamed of my own country, our state and our country are not beautiful, their history is beautiful.. It is really sad that instead of fixing the economy, they see the solution as closing down the applications instead of harsher penalties. Being a woman in Turkey is like hell.
Congrats to you bro. As a Turkish guy youve made a video even turkish youtuber couldn’t do with that much detail. Appreciate your hard work and sensivity about the case
I 100% expect this video to be "Not available in Turkiye" in about five hours...
Precisely
Surprisingly not yet
i give it a week
2 days ago there was an attack on Ankara so youtube got banned for a couple hours 😭 jinxed it
@@Meg69megmeg Şimdi Türkiye'deyim turist olarak. Okadarda kötü deyil burası RUclips'da söyledikleri gibi. Sadece Enes de biraz abartılıyormuş
Thank you for talking about this issue. There are many incidents like this in our country and many incidents are forgotten after enough time has passed. We have nothing to do but hope that things will get better, but they don't.
If you wait for something to happen nothing will change. So act.
@@Hihiha6363 People blackmail others in every country. You have hackers this problem exists everywhere what's your problem?
That’s the thing with our country. everything’s happening so fast that we forget what we were protesting and fighting for.
You know the problem starts and ends with Erdoğan right? Depose that monster already.
I wish that "enough time" wasn't a fucking couple of weeks. We are fish-minded as fuck.
That was a really imformative, high quality video. I love the speed of the voice, the editing, the timing, the content, I watched the video in full length without pausing because it captivated my full attention. I subscribed to your channel. Really amazing narrative style.
yuzeysel bi video bekliyordum derin arastirma yapmasina sasirdim
disi misin
@@musicege evet?
@@musicege ????
@@musicege Ne alaka amk
@@musicege engelli misin
we are so fed up. thank you for raising awareness ntts
jump
@@gkjsvdifnm you didn’t say simon says😥😥😥😥
youre so ill bro get help. @@gkjsvdifnm
@@mochaXX16 exactlyy
@@gkjsvdifnm incel gruplarından birini bulduk 🤢
I feel sorry for my Turkish brothers 🇬🇷 ❤🇹🇷
Thanks my Greek brother
Thanks Greek bro 🤝
❤
A greek chad i haven't seen one of them since god of war
❤
Thank you for making this video and making our voice heard❤🎉
As a Turk, banning discord won’t help, these same people who do this stuff already used vpns, the same people are probably laughing at this mocking the government, the problem isn’t discord, discord could be more helpful by cooperating with the Turkish government yes. But these same people can go on telegram or other apps like that. Our government is a disgrace
Edit: I’ve seen someone blame our culture for this in the comments, it’s not our culture you’re clearly on something
Edit 2: A lot of people have a misconception about our government in the replies, please do you research and come back
the worst part is that the people who know how to buy government record definitely know how to use a VPN, and they can always extort people better if others think just being on discord is now evil so you would be shunned as evil if anyone without a brain knew, and that can be easily used as a threat
this is what you get for being passive
Turkey will just ban vpns next lmao
@@fred3965cant wait for internet to be banned
@@fred3965 They did
As a Turkish woman, this is so infuriating. I cant even put into words the extend of my emotions. I'm angry, frustrated, scared but mostly just angry. I love my country but these insane old men are ruining it, prisons are safer than the streets.
Yu love a country that committed a genocide and didn’t admit to it?
1 million deaths
🤡@@ShakirUddin-hu3gk
@@ShakirUddin-hu3gk it's my country. Way to derail the topic from a comment about the femicide happening in Turkey. Im not saying the topic you brought up is insignificant but bring up the topic when it is relevant and not shadowing other serious things. Femicide is an ongoing problem in Turkey.
@@ShakirUddin-hu3gk Please name your country so i can justify everything bad happening to you is because of your country doing something a couple hundred years ago. There is a brain inside your skull, you should use it.
I am from Türkiye and I shared this video on Discord and now we are watching with my Turkish friends together on Discord
lol
What vpn are you using?
Oha ppler aynı
@@AINSLEYdaPUNENTHUSIAST i use proton vpn then proton ban in turkey
im terrified for my friend, shes in turkey and has been living there for years. i really, really hope shes okay.
my country lore:
Fix the fucking economy ❌
Better education system ❌
Better Healthcare ❌
Fix environmental issues ❌
Fix refugee issues ❌
put the bad guys in jail ❌
Fix terrorism ❌
BAN ROBLOX AND DISCORD ✔✔✔✔✔HELLL YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ✔✔✔✔✔✔✔
Real
I agree with banning Roblox though, it's cringe.
HELL YEAH MAN
as a turkish guy i agree 👍
@@aliazarmehralparslan6067 You are also cringe but I didn't kill your family because of it
As a Turkish woman, I was wondering if you would make a video about this.
Edit: I made the comment before I finished. It was a great coverage. Thank you for your through research and sharing this story.
wishing you all thesafety
@@oreytel thank you 🌺
@@tetryphun Thank you too btw
11:54 Law enforcement doesn't just move slow, they straight up don't move at all unless there's a lot of press and pressure in Turkey.
Thats is the case sadly.
Sadly.
On a more sad note there was a scandal where public numbers say 20 babies were basically killed so the hospital owners could get richer from insurency fraud.
The thing is our government should have known about this
First report was on 7 march 2023 and first operation was on 27th of april 2024 but those hospitals closed just now because of the backlash
Fr
They sometimes don't move even with pressure, eg. Narin incident. It's fucking obvious who did it. A damn village in the middle of nowhere is somehow resisting police investigation? More like the police were told to act lazy, because apparently even shitty village ağas have a lot of connections normal people doesn't have.
Good research well done man
As a turkish person, i literally hate the people who lead this country and how they just ban everything and close their eyes just like nothing happened.
i live in turkey and i dont think i have future...
i hate living in this place, literally law isnt even working in here
You have a long way to go to get a proper life.
first step is changing that Anime PfP.
Same sadly
Secularism has failed Turkey.
@@MuammarQadaffi 🇮🇱
@@MuammarQadaffiSecularism? ISLAMISM has failed Turkey. Erdogan's ideology is literally "political Islam". And Erdogan ruined Turkey.
Yet another Turk here saying thanks for bringing light into how idiotic our government is. Great video, and thanks for taking your time to research everything thoroughly
not so fun fact:pepper spray prices increased and they dont let us bring them inside the malls and such
What's even worse is that Discord thinks it's a regular outage according to what they show on unstable connections...
So they don't even know that they're blocked in Turkey and Russia.
Because Discord doesn't want to correct itself and follow damn rules.
@@mustafaozturk2542By that do you mean give the turkish government full access to all their user data?
@@somenameidk5278They gotta be more clear about what Turkey asked for.
@@somenameidk5278 No, I mean Discord doesn't follow its own rules. This is the main reason why Discord is a dangerous place. If Discord moderated its own platform in the beginning. Discord wouldn't become a topic on the Turkish Media.
As a turk, I'm so ashamed for my government. It's fucking horrifying.
Also don't apologize for your pronunciation, you did well.
And also why are they mirdering innocent kurdish citizens. Heard of innocent old grandpa drived on by a tank?
@@Lucid._Krd literally what the fuck are you talking about? At least be subtle with your propaganda, donkey lover
@@Lucid._KrdTurkey is ruled by an alliance of Turkish and Kurdish politicians at the moment. If government is murdering anyone it's not because they're Turkish Kurdish etc. it's neat they're reckless and careless of human lives.
@@Lucid._Krd Most of the Kurdish deaths are PKK propaganda. PKK is the one killing innocent Turks. Also Kurds shouldn't be killed.
@@Lucid._KrdLMAO WHAT😂😂😂😂im Kurdish who lives in gaziantep(as you can see from my pfp,Gaziantep sport team),we speak Kurdish freely and theres no violence in anywhere
As a turkish girl who has just turned 18, thank you so much for this video. You have no idea how horrible it is to live in a country like this.
I cant even talk to my friends on games without filtering the informations i give them. With just simple info like my name and the city i live in they can find me and threaten me.
I follow you since like 2021. I loved your channel and I love it even more now. From the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for this. Thank you so much for making our voice and our stories heard even if its just this single video.
Keep up the good work of yours.
theres worse countries to live in yall acting like theres a war
@@acaciaq They've never seen what it's like. They see a ban of their favorite app and go "government bad!!!".
Kids cannot see the bigger picture. Not saying the government is in the right but it's not so black and white as they think it is.
@@acaciaq what a dumb thing to say
turkey has a really bad diplomacy system and the government thinks if you ban an app all the bad people inside it will stay inside, which is really dumb. Turkey has banned other essential apps like youtube and wikipedia too, and there is an economical crisis rn making all of this way worse. The current president has been president for 20+ years and he is pretty hated by the turkish public. And you can basically get sexually harassed or get killed in the street just because you bump into an angry teen or smth. it really is like war.
Theres worse diseases to catch yall are acting like you have stage 4 cancer
Great coverage!
I feel very sorry for everyone living in Turkey right now. Stay strong brothers 😔
We don't want your pity, everything is fine and we are strong. Those who cry about it are weak.
@@shazamnegroid7379 ragebaiters never were believable. Nor they are now
i dont think i can do it pookie
🤨for someone who likes superheroes your turning a blind eye to the problems especially by saying everything is fine while kids are being abused and women are being killed what a twat.@@shazamnegroid7379
ty pookie
You know what's sad?
The majority of this video's audience is unfortunately already woke Turkish people.
Not the foreign viewers or big media outlets.
Wait in ur country is being called woke not an insult?
@@HeyheyheyHeyheyhey-b3v no it translates more to like being aware and understanding the issues.
It reached me (a foreigner) let's hope it reaches the big media outlets as well.
Woke has been recently used for people who are gay xD that's why the comments were like that
@@HeyheyheyHeyheyhey-b3vi am turkish and i think woke is an insult in every country
Türkiye:My apple tree gave rotten apples, so i just cutted it down.
Türkiye : If there is somebody making noise in the libary close the libary
my apple is rooten hmm we delete soil.exe
My chocolate was low quality, i destroyed the chocolate company
-Erdoğan
Fr
@@vDeloxFr :/
thank you for covering this. theyre trying to keep it from spreading
So the government hurt women and old people blamed the phones instead of the government?
Wow never heard that before-
How did the government hurt women?
@@shazamnegroid7379by letting psychopaths with criminal records walk around freely? 20-30 suç kaydı olan adamlar sokakta cirit atıyor amk
@@shazamnegroid7379did you even watch the part about the istanbul convention?
@@shazamnegroid7379 according to this video that i assume we both watched, the turkey/turkiye government left the istanbul convention and in doing that took away women's protection... so that they could be homophobic
And by taking away these protections, they end up allowing more harm to be done
Correct me if i got this wrong but something about the several turkish people in the comments complaining about the turkish government tells me I'm not far off-
@@Mr.Birb- The government not protecting women did not hurt them, some random mentally ill reta did. Blaming the government for something that they didn't do is wild. As for all the people complaining, they are weak and complain for the wrong reasons. I even saw a comment talk about how people are leaving to germany for THIS.
As a Turkish person, it is incredibly amusing to see the snowflakes melt under erdogan's sun.
the ironic thing about this part " 1:56 " is that yeaars ago in like 2005 he said he would protect homosexuals and their rights my man did a whole 180 degree turn back
anything for votes bro
another thing is semih was stalking ikbal for a looong while like 5 years and semih told her to do a double suicide with him of course ikbal didn't accept it so his first suicide attempt was failed because of that
he was also in possession of dr#gs and the family knew about it but didn't say anything, he was also ignoring the medicines given by the physcs he said he didn't need them and the family didn't say anything again... it could also be pretty likely he chose to become a butcher to fulfil his desire and learn how to cut things swiftly this could have easily been prevented if the family didn't ignore their childrens problems. life of 3 people was indeed ruined..
i also forgot to mention ikbals death could have happened a year ago because semih contacted ikbal like a year ago back then saying things about meeting up she said okay but didn't come to the given location then semih texted her a video talking about how he was going to kill her and rip her heart out of if she did infact came there he was also talking about he is going to kill himself and he must take a life with him and she seemed worthy
Someone dropped the soap. 🧼 😅
@@emreyuksel7466 ruclips.net/video/JMoA2fwmJuI/видео.html
My mom and dad actually got pissed because they knew that i used discord to talk with strangers and to have fun but the ban had made it difficult for me to talk to people who are not turkish, my mom and dad really values english or any foreign language. So because of the ban i can't talk to my friends who live in USA, Germany, Russia etc.
Edit: I use Proton VPN
Vpn indir usta?
@@TurkuazYamyam Benim moderatör olduğum sunucunun sahibi arkadaşım bütün sunucu üyelerine vpn linki atti ilk gün.
dns ayarlarını değiştir düzelmezse warp vpn çözüyo
yeah use a vpn, its not 100% safe but its pretty unlikely that they catch u. But do your own research, always. All power to you guys shit sucks
@@fahkodolab270 denedin ama dns olmadı Proton Vpn yetiyor bana bayağı hızlı
we literally fucked up man.. i cant even trust my people. well at the end of the day what can we say right.pfff its getting worse day by day..im fucking tired. my homeland getting weird. thanks for your hard work and the content.❤
I almost cried during the earthquake part of the video. It was really traumatic that when we were trying to reach people and help them through Twitter, they blocked it. We were operating a help group on whatsapp and Twitter was helping us a lot to get info about specific apartments' situation.
Shame to the Turkish government who doesn’t protect women and children in their country! My thoughts and prayer are with the people that are affected by those disturbing incidents 🇬🇷❤️🇹🇷
Thank you bro/sis
Σας ευχαριστούμε για την υποστήριξή σας. Ως γυναίκες, δεν είμαστε πραγματικά ασφαλείς. Χαιρετισμούς από την Τουρκία στην Ελλάδα. (γραμμένο με μετάφραση)
Ataturk did not die for this.
He didn't die for any cause, bro had liver cancer.
things started to fell of after Atatürk died
@@shazamnegroid7379😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 IM DEAD
All these started when he took over
This is what happens when you bring religion into a secularists government
Atatürk indeed did not die for this
As a turk, your video helped me a lot on the actual case. News reports over here in Turkey didnt give any of this information, especially the fact that Turkey was just asking for.. literally everything from discord, which was why discord didnt comply with the request.
Yes, as a turkish person everybody over the age of 30 in turkey thinks discord is like a harmful / explicit / just generally a bad platform , instead of actually working towards fixing this problem the government just bans a chatting program. like what the hell?
Discord is a bad platform.
@@bv5998 it definitely is far from being perfect, but banning it to prevent ext0rtion groups is just not going to work
My Turkish husband is in his 40s (I'm in my 30s), we both used Discord here in Turkey before it was banned and never thought it was harmful. Every platform has its good and bad side. Reddit, facebook, instagram, Tumblr, TikTok, Twitch, etc. etc. etc. If the Turkish government is bent on trying to pretend to protect its citizen, might as well tell everyone to stay home, keep their stoves and heaters off, lights off, don't drink water in case someone drowns by drinking it, etc. I'm shocked the government hasn't banned the entire internet.
@@giftofspeech yeah, me and my friends think they will just shut down the whole country lol. The government doesnt think that these people can use other apps or programs like skype and stuff.
@@bv5998 banning it wont solve shit tho i could just "share" sensitive info on everywhere else
Hello. As someone from Turkey, I want to clarify the events. Turkey is a country that is not free on the internet. The government does not censor what needs to be censored on the internet, but whatever they want to censor. The reason Twitter was closed during the earthquake was so that the images of the earthquake would not spread on the internet and the government would not be harmed. If you criticize the government on the internet, you will be sued because the government does not want to be harmed. Our government is so bad that instead of re-signing the Istanbul Convention to prevent femicides and preventing this, they want to make it seem like they have solved the problem by shutting down older people's Discord. Just today, 23.10.2024, there was a terrorist attack in the capital of Turkey and an immediate news broadcast ban was imposed, the reason being that this attack would be less heard and the government would not be harmed. If you have any questions, I can answer them.
Was a home-terrorist or an outsider?
As I see it life for young there is hell, but what about for women in the daily basis (older and young)?
it s worsening, always and everyday...
@@protoncracker_xp as a woman in turkey i've been not going out since the Semih Celik's incident cause what may happen to me. As for the terrorist attack it was probably to twist the news about "yenidoğan" gang who are healthcare workers that have been misdiagnosising the babies and malpracticing them and ending up killing infants to get the poor babies insurance money.
long story short it's a all a play to the gov. neither our lives nor the babies, childs, women matter.
@@protoncracker_xp as a woman in turkey i've been not going out since the Semih Celik's incident cause what may happen to me. As for the terrorist attack it was probably to twist the news about "yenidoğan" gang who are healthcare workers that have been misdiagnosising the babies and malpracticing them and ending up killing infants to get the poor babies insurance money.
long story short it's a all a play to the gov. neither our lives nor the babies, childs, women matter.
they banned sites like the hub which is pretty reasonable
then they banned fucking newgrounds
In Brazil, recently, a group EXACTLY like this got investigated and some arrests were made. No ban on Discord was issued, yet, I'm afraid it is just a question of time.
At least they banned Twitter which got my respect. Full of Nazis and corporate goons out there.
Best video on any subject related to Turkey, in terms of telling objectively what "we neutral" people in Tutkey feel, talk, experience and go throug. Even compared to local sources. Congrats to the channel.
As someone from Türkiye this horrifies me
Fr..
Are you serious? Stay at home, you shouldn't even go out.
From where? @@TUNC66
update, turkey banned all social media platforms after a terrorist attack in the capital yesterday
The reasoning might be stupid but banning social media is probably a good thing.
@@huks9380 turkey also banned roblox to protect childs instead of bringing laws that are intimidating enough to keep people away from harming kids
@@huks9380 Fr
It was not a ban it was a temporary limitation
İt was a temporary restriction for stopping misinformation on social media
It's very important for you to cover this topic. Thank you very much. If you can add turkish subs, it would really help to share this topic with turkish friends and family. As you know it's really hard to stay informed in turkey. I believe there are turkish speaking members in your community that help with that. I don't know if you'll see this but I would be really happy to help as well. I have my email at the about section on my youtube page. Thank you again for talking about this, you managed to do it very respectfully. Thank you.
Ngl Living with Turkish family is a pain in the ass they are nice there loving but the moment u speak another language or do something that's not common for them it appears as a problem for them they say shit like u are born as a turk u should speak turk speaking other languages is not that important or they connect it to religion which is yk not okey at all. And yes I am Turkish.
@@unhappyunsad6509That is quite odd. I haven’t heard such things happening up until now.
Hello, I'am writing from Turkey. Everything that is told in this video is true and worse continues to happen in the country. As if what is happening in the country is not painful enough, it makes me very sad that other nations see us like this. But unfortunately, what is happening is real. Thank you very much for making this video and for your work. You have raised awareness for our country. Thank you very much. I hope y'll stay safe. sorry for my english if its bad or hard to understand. 🙏🏻
if you were in turkey you would get arrested instantly just because this video
or someone would call emergency with your number and your voice and get you in trouble
@@okunamayanad 💀fr
or some haters would look up your address from the leaked database and make a considerable change in your life
oh yeah,good thing this guy isnt actually from Turkiye huh
@@lowqualitysenti thank fuck, actual shit hole country
The Turkish Government not only failed those women, but it failed to protect it's own people by casting blame on the LGBTQI+ community for their own gross actions by removing the Instanbul convention from it's law.
May those two girls who died find peace and may her killers (Both the monster and the people who failed them) rest in shame.
Türkiye gov does not blame LQBTQIFHGEUFKINMVVRR+ or what the fuck does the rest is. I dont even sure they know what LGBTQI+ is. They blame the people who doesnt think the same thing with them
rest? they gotta be in one of the darkest pits of hell
LMAOOO@@ApeiroContent
What do you think? You signa document and automatically people stop commiting crimes against women? These treaties are just symbolic things what matters is what do you actually do to stop this and its good to see governments do stuff towards combating this stuff whether or not they virtue signal through some treaty absolutely doesn't matter. We see everyday how many countries go and talk utopian things at UN and then go home and commit crimes against civilians of other nations and even their own nations.
@@falcon_224 You fail to see the link between treaties, law and prosecutions. When a country signs a treaty, it intends to later write up laws based on that treaty, and once those laws come into effect, they will bring in the change that the treaty described (assuming nothing in this process fails). Educate yourself, i beg of you.
Thank you so, so much for covering this.
The situation just emphasized how important it is to consult the young people on how to use the social medias in order to prevent cybercrimes effectively
discord is banned, time to "share" information in whatsapp 💀
situation so bad that my homie switched to skype 😭
they cant ban whatsapp tho the goverment officials chat from there
@@viola_violettaaEVERYONE chats from there
Even businesses
WhatsApp/Facebook/Instagram (Meta) gives the all information to the government so they won't get banned.
You're a youtuber I used to follow for some weird discord tricks, now I have massive respects seeing you make serious content and make them this well researched (i live in turkey and wasnt aware of the full situation).
i am REALLY happy you decided to talk about this topic because there are many people who dont know the entirety of the story, some old people thinking discord is a place for illegal activities, some young people thinking they banned discord for absolutely no reason(which could be true but thats just one out of many possible scenarios) and people shit talking discord for not doing anything about these crimes (which could also be the case but again, its just a single scenario out of many)
thank you for making a video about this