they're still stuck in the wave of gamer gate propaganda. it's gonna take years for them to 'catch up' when this stuff infects their country. they won't know what it is until half of africa is living there.
It would carry more weight if it was a western developer, they have different attitudes in China so they can stay stuff like this and not have to realistically deal with backlash.
It amazes me that companies can see this kind of stuff happen time and time again. Yet still think the 7,000 people angry on Twitter are an accurate representation of overall society. It would be like if in the Middle Ages a king went into the town square. Walked up to the local crazy drunk to listen to his incoherent ramblings. Then went “I can’t believe my kingdom thought this way”
I think that absolutely could happen in middle ages. However its not like kings had particular consideration about what their kingdom thinks, so they might do that just out of pure interest, for fun essentially. In that way kings had better grip with reality than novadays corpos. Given that corpos actually have power of statistics, sales data an many, many other things tho, there might be something else going on here. It can be explained just by incompetence for lesser and lesser extend year by year.
Better comparission would be King listening to his nobles to find out what troubes his country, and gets an answer that main problem in his country is a disastrous shortage of pastries.
@Random76544 adding a lot of examples would just give more people ammo to accuse the studio of trying to hide things. They gave the perfect amount of examples for the most obvious things people might rope into a conversation involving a Chinese studio. People that argue about this simply want there to be drama to distract them from how boring their lives are. Their publishers, not the studio or developers, asking to keep discourse to the game itself is in every way a reasonable request.
Every time when a game gets controversial when it relates it not having any DEI propaganda is going to make the game lead to a successful outcome, it just goes to show you that players are actually tired of this thing being included in games because it's unnecessary
Hogwarts Legacy, Stellar Blade, Elden Ring, Black Myth Wukong and other such games immense success really puts into perspective how irrelevant game journalists are & how they exist in an echo chamber. They are disconnected with the end consumers. The end consumers really dgaf about their opinions & it shows in the sales statistics of all the games these games journalists have either tried to cancel or promote. The games they cancel sell millions of copies & some even become GOTY. And the games they try to hype up tank horribly with just some 200 players playing the game lmao
Wait until weekends, then there will be even more players. Now its broke the record for single player game category for having the most concurrent players online.
The controversy is that a DEI company tried to blackmail them with a $7 million “consultation fee” and they were told no. So now they’re labeled sexist and racist. This is nasty stuff.
who knew a game that is solely focusing on good story, good gameplay, smooth gameplay and not inserting political propaganda will have tons of people wanting to play it
@@hikhik6441 Na, what's making people want to buy this very average game is the strawman that was created behind a couple of reviews that barely touched on some social issues. Made the nerds angry so bought out of spite. And all you really needed to do was read thr actual article that was demonised. See when I first heard about it I thought, the same thing, but I don't just stop there. I head to the source and get some perspective. And they points were minor but valid I've seen review bombs happen for less glaring omissions from source material. You geeks are hypocrites. And their score wasn't even in reference to the omissions from the source material. It was for all the other issues of the product that every other reviewer glossed over with "some of you might want to wait" and "for this reason it might not be for this specific type of player".
I've only been reading manhwa, and watching martial art cgi, never played their games with triple A quality like wukong, trying to role play that is in a whole different level, definitely a lot of wuxia/murim fans gonna flock on it.
Yeah, fuck free speech. You don't get to be your own person while talking about this game. If they have to comply with the CCP, that sucks, so be it. That's not where all of this is coming from. The feminism thing is just their own bs.
Yeah basically. I don’t even know why people keep saying the Chinese government has anything to do with this, when it’s obviously just a response to bad faith actors drawing focus away from the quality of the game.
They didn't say don't discuss politics. They said don't discuss feminism or COVID. So they are pushing for a particular kind of politics. The people supporting this don't actually care about free speech.
@@Bomb6A9Head Asmon has some pretty good takes in alot of his videos. Sometimes he does get it wrong but more often than not he makes sense when discussing something.
The success of this game has nothing to do with DEI. It’s not that the absence of DEI made it successful; it’s just not relevant. The real reason Black Myth: Wukong took off is that it hit the mark with what Chinese gamers want in a single-player game. First, there’s a huge demand for games based on ancient Chinese mythology, especially Journey to the West, which is a classic that almost every Chinese person loves. Second, there’s a growing desire for high-quality single-player games because people are fed up with the pay-to-win model dominating the online gaming scene in China. To explain this, you have to know that China is wealthy now and already has a huge game market. However it’s all about local pay-to-win online games. Take Genshin Impact, for example-it’s popular, but it doesn’t even crack the top three in China’s online gaming market. In recent years, the demand for single-player games has skyrocketed, and Black Myth: Wukong met this need, pulling players away from those online games. Interestingly, if you dig into some early news in China, you’ll find that some game journalists, hired by big companies, tried to undermine Black Myth. Personally, I don’t think the game is perfect; it has its flaws. But as a Chinese gamer, it’s a must-buy because people want more single-player games that reflect Chinese culture. And they understand that the best way to get more of these games is to support companies like Game Science, who stands with players and are genuinely trying to make great games, even under pressure.
I mean, you are describing the Western market as well. The Western market is DESPERATE for an AAA level game that has a good story, good characters, good graphics, no ultra predatory model, and isn't preachy af. Anyone who is even tangentially familiar with Easter Asian culture knows of Wukong and Journey to the West. And of course, what better way to tell a story when you get a game made by Chinese people? Can you imagine what EA or Ubisoft would have done to butcher this game? I don't even want to think about it.
BRUH THANKS. I thought everyone here is in an absolute psychosis. I even felt a bit gas-lighted because so many here talk about "woke journalism" and "woke people peeing their pants rn" even though I haven't seen a single person saying that the game is not fun or problematic in any way. lmao It's legit a good game and Asian/Chinese, that's the main reason here
Great post, not only the P2W features in any competitive scene but also the rampant cheating in every multiplayer game ruins the integrity of the experience. It’s why games like Elden ring, BG3 have been so highly successful in recent times. This game isn’t my cup of tea per se, but I support the message behind it and if more games follow it’ll be good for all gamers
Of course it has some flaw. Game science or Chinese gaming industry have never created a AAA game before, i am suprise it broke so much game record with only a more than 140 worker lol. Now imagine what chinese game developer will create in the future when they first hits is a huge success.
Controversy? Oh, please. It’s just another instance of so-called game "journalists" throwing a fit because they can’t comprehend that this game is based on Chinese folklore, which clearly doesn’t align with their forced diversity. Instead of appreciating the game's quality like its gameplay, physics, and storyline, they're busy whining about the absence of black characters and such, as if every studio has a magical diversity box to tick.
I wonder where is this notice from? From the official website? And why did this MOONMOON dude do this? Cuz he saw the notice and thought it’s ridiculous?
@@ryana5435ofc it is ridiculous but nowadays it is a necessity because westerners ( 90% of the Americans) complain about everything like why no lesbians here why no strong women here etc etc ofc this notice is ridiculous but I don’t blame them if they think it is necessary
@@kevindogaru4080 well maybe if they stop trying to make just one group of people feel special maybe just maybe we can stop acting like these people are gods and actually worry making a game that everyone can enjoy minus all the propaganda and assumptions.
@@kevindogaru4080 On the other side, if video games included well written strong feminist/lesbian characters, they will get angry again because well written requires character's growth, responsibility, having a personality etc. They can't handle that
As a Chinese, wukong is a god that every Chinese has worshipped since childhood. He is not the strongest god, but he is indeed a brave man who fights against the injustice of destiny.
@@dreamjames8784 even outside of china wukong is a very popular and cherished character. in some places he's even more popular than the journey to the west
It's not surprising when you realize that overwhelming majority of players are Chinese. There's only 1% of English reviews on Steam. Also Wukong isn't available on the Chinese Steam.
Can we stop calling this kinda of stuff a controversy? It’s not. It’s literally a small sect of people who are so disconnected from reality that they will complain about literally everything. It’s not controversial it’s blatant stupidity
People who think Chinas bad policies led to the spread of Covid is a much larger demographic than you are accounting for. There was much more to those conditions than just the "Feminist propaganda" one. Any major Chinese game was going to face this one way or another, and it just happened to be Wukong that was the one that triggered it.
This whole game is about Chinese culture, that’s the real diversity we should strive for. Diversity of game settings and sticking to those settings, not having one setting and craming every different type of person in their.
He was in fact comparing the game to only Elden Ring. He meant Elden Ring's all time player count, not in general. Stop being a pedantic clown. "eDiToR jUsT A CoRrEctiOn" lmfao
I usually wait 3-4 days after the new games released and then i see the reviews. Those reviews especially in Steam are way more better than the reviews from the journalist
@@rockstarboi2209 because the reviews from are steam are written from people who actually play the game instead of troglodytes who care more about diversity instead of gameplay.
I've literally not seen one review that has said anything beyond "it removed females from the source materials impact in the story". Thats it. None of them have reduced scored because of it. Lol. This is an entire strawman. Try reading the reviews instead of taking what these other "journos" spout as fact.
@@Mirristal what's odd is that you lot don't want the other half of your relationship to be able to earn more income and help you guys buy those homes you keep bitching about not being able to buy
@@Friendlyfirefish huh? feminist propaganda and someone making money based on merit are two different things. Did people “bitch” about buying homes decades ago? No. There’s reasons for that, and it’s not because of feminist bs. Now go get a brain boy
Sun Wukong was born from a stone crevice, making him a silicon-based lifeform, and thus, a member of a minority group. As a stone monkey, he is genderless and can be seen as a representative of the LGBT community. Additionally, as a monk, he is also a vegetarian. He created chaos in the underworld to prevent his fellow monkeys from being oppressed, showing that he is a noble animal rights activist. After being trapped under the Five Elements Mountain for 500 years, suffering greatly, he gained a deep understanding of freedom, making him a liberal. He respectfully addresses women as "Goddess of Mercy," showing his support for women's rights, making him a feminist. His journey to extinguish the flames of Fire Mountain showcases him as a great environmental warrior. The storyline in the Kingdom of Women, involving male pregnancy and the allowance of abortion, further reflects a progressive stance on reproductive rights. Such a figure, embodying multiple attributes like minority status, LGBT identity, vegetarianism, animal rights activism, feminism, environmentalism, and liberalism, and with his 72 transformations piling on more and more buffs, how could anyone say he is politically incorrect?
Why, they do matter. They will shat on anything that have no coplience with their agenda, and will praise everything which have. And they do not know anything about gameplay being good anyway. So you can just ignore their gameplay take and reverse shat to praising and praising to shat. Pretty usable i should say, yet ineffective.
they're engaging in a literal shakedown of game science, that's why, they refused the offer of a western dei consultancy firm to consult on the game for $7Mn dollars and then the hit pieces started. I'm pretty sure this is actually a felony crime, racketeering, and that people who do this usually get the RICO act used on them which screws up their lives completely. this is actually anticompetitive business behavior as well, so antitrust might be another route. considering we know these people are all BFF palsy walsies on various socialist social media hives of scum and villainry and such little collusion rings in the gaming media have been revealed in the past, I have no doubt there that there's grounds here at least for an exploratory investigation into potential criminal activity by a federal agency, say, after january.
Facts. Journey to the West transcends any politics. It'd be like going and politicizing the Iliad. Its a grand adventure, let it be free from the nonsense.
@@slanderking69 Themes and messages that further the tyrannical female agenda that I will not speak of in fear of spreading female propaganda. (I have no flipping idea)
@@Myth-Enjoyer "In this game we are playing as an anthropomorphic monkey fighting enemies that are derived from a famous Chinese story. But of course the most important thing about this game are women" - You, probably
Well, the last topic technically prtevents you from talking about the game... because its a result of the chinese games industry and the CCPs now open "requests" for them to copy recent AAA games (like GoW, including having the same issues with walking down stairs and using trashy animation locks with no recovery tweens/transition and cancel options as if it were a PS1 game with Wukong... actually i lie, even PS1 games like Soul Reaver had dodges that attack cancel on input).
Not to me. I paid for the product, I will do with it what I please. Violating copyright laws should be the only exception to this. Just because you sold me something doesn't mean you get to tell me what to do with it.
True... but wait to see if people like the game in general.... don't count all your (commie) eggs until they hatch ( in to credits ). Bing ice creaming... I believe the famous saying goes
It's very impressive, and it's currently sitting as the top 4th alltime-player record behind Counterstrike, Palworld, and Pubg. This is absolutely incredible, especially considering that, it is a single player game.
@@DerusGrindz he's actually not far from the truth. UK is cracking down on online discourse and it actively saying you can't talk about feminism could trigger someone over there and they report you to the police.
@@ghostguy_x7085 I'm not telling you anything but for what it is in the UK. There are videos everywhere of people being arrested for wrong think. This is a reality! They are even trying to work with the US government to extradition orders.
@@trashcan7140 i'll rather take CCP propaganda rather than DEI propaganda , at least the CCP doesn't hate me because i'm white male + im not even american so
Info to be clear : the guidelines don't enforce any streamers or influencer since you don't sign anything so nothing illegal if you don't follow them. It's literally a guideline from the Chinese marketing company (so not even the game dev studio) that advice them to not talking about these topics.
Who is "trying hard"? All I saw was an IGN article about the developers being giant freaks, making the line about "no fetishization" pretty hypocritical", considering their devs post instruction on how to jerk it to the female characters.
only because China is supporting it. If it was just western gamers it would not be as popular. I don't know a single person who bought this game. We are still playing Elden Ring DLC
It is important to point out that most of the players are chinese. They are very likely 70 - 95% of the playerbase. Since 95% of the steam reviews are Chinese. Wukong is a very popular character in China. It is not surprising it is doing really good over there. The only thing I could see winning over that game with that playerbase is if GTA 6 gets released on Steam at launch.
@@bogustav You might be right, though it did hit 2.2m concurrent players which regardless of the playerbase - for a single player action RPG is beyond impressive and is definitely a historical achievement, especially for such a new developer on their debut title. I'm also seeing a tonne of praise for the game from western content creators. though yeah, Journey to the west from what I understand is basically Marvel levels of popular in China etc. I'm looking forward to playing it. It's downloaded on my ps5, I'm just holding off for when I can sit down for more than 1 hour to play it so I can get fully immersed in the game without interruptions.
The fact that they listed it between violence and fetishization is just... yikes. Hope this is a wake up call for the oblivious zealots. That's what they look like to an objective neutral party.
Minimum requirements is a RTX 1060. That means you will get 60 fps even if you shovel the pixels onto the screen by hand instead of having a GPU in your computer.
Just for the record - I searched for this game on some torrent trackers in Russia, they have game client there but without a crack which is expected because of Denuvo. But what I didn't expect is to see there chinese bot accounts that praise the game using google translator and poorly written comments. How many developers would fall to such lowly thing? Thats a flag for me, maybe not red, but yellow for sure. Thought of giving them money but now I won't.
Yep, there's probably a lot of astrourfing. But the thing is, you can also watch Western or non-Chinese streamers play this game and the game looks pretty fun. I don't think it's the next elden ring since the majority of the purchases are from Chinese citizens themselves but, it's a pretty competent game. It kind of reminds me of a game we would see in the mid 2000s to 2010s where it doesn't do anything really good, but it takes a lot of good things that we've seen from other games put them together, and then also tells a story that a lot of people are a fan of, even here in the west. And that's fine, back then games that were not AAA but maybe single A or AA existed and those were fun. remember that word, fun? imagine that.
@@Keirnoth Yeah, I didn't said that game is bad, but I just say that these numbers are not totally comparable and fair. I heard that in China some companies even gave a 1-day vacation on launch day if you pre-ordered this game. CCP knows well how to make a picture that they want to show.
Remember, success is THE best type of revenge. You’re too busy dealing with success to bother with the negativity from the miserables who try to drag you down. Bonus is their ego is hurt and they fume watching you be successful and happy.
This is what companies need to learn, negative attention isnt always a bad thing, it can actually help , stop trying to avoid negative opinions and just make what you love
@@ChuckTheChosen no, what I'm saying is that this was a strawman built on an article that barely mentioned social problems. Only that some characters that are a major part of the source material were removed/downplayed. Things that geeks routinely review bomb over. Then, they go on to say that those minor story issues aren't playing a role in their score and its more for the bland, repetitive combat, performance issues, etc. The same things all the other reviewers have being pointing out might irk some people.but that's all glossed over because you can create some moral outrage instead with these precious nerds that feel like things aren't made for them anymore. Then you have a bunch of people saying that this middle finger to diversity is the exact reason why they are going to buy a game they weren't even interested in buying to begin with. Incel marketing ploy successful.
This right here. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was a clever psyop setup by the game studio. All they would have to do is leak a few emails and then start posting about it on Twitter/reddit. They saw how successful it made stellar blade and Harry Potter
I think “controversy” is made by these influencers who want shit on DEI and gain some engagement and money from doing this. The devs are kinda surprised about all these
this notice was in fact for all the journalists who got early access to the game. game science wanted the reviews to be rid of sinophobic prejudice & woke bs, and just be 100% focused on the game itself, which imo is nothing wrong. they dont really care about the steamers lol
@@homarika3809I mean, hating on the Chinese government is not sinophobic. It's called being correct. I hate on large governments in general, including our own US government and I have zero qualms about speaking crap about the Chinese government. We just didn't want streamers talking about things that would undermine the Chinese government in general and get the eye of sauron looking at game science the developer. The government does not like being criticized, If they didn't put these rules in there, the developers themselves might end up being disappeared even if it's a random streamer that says it because from the government's point of view, the developer allowed it to happen. If you've been watching Asmongold long enough you can see how there's some parallels between how the current administration in the US and certain Western European governments are acting when they go after someone like Elon musk complaining about so-called hate speech on X. It's actually kind of depressing how it's starting to sound kind of similar between the west and the Chinese government.
@@kibblezzzwhat was the point of this comment? You’re agreeing with his statement and adding nothing. If you are going to comment, add something. If you just agree with nothing to add, there’s a button for that.
I don’t get it, what propaganda do they want? The bosses are a bear, a rat, a tiger, a devil, a dragon , and a monkey. And the main character is a monkey. What kind diversity do people want?
?? are u just gonna ignore the other 90% that was abt censoring anything to do with china ?? LMAO u guys would bend over backwards for anyone that says anything anti-woke 😭
As an Asian, this sort of rules around Buddhism is pretty on brand. In Thailand alone, we have several billboards of people getting arrested or beaten for having a Buddhist tattoo or a Buddha toilet cover. That billboard is just outside the airport exit to let foreigners know what’s up
I'm from thailand and I think that's messed up, yes, it's a real thing, especially when it also comes to criticising the royal family, but it shows the grim reality of how freedom of speech abslutely does not exist
Europe should had done that but now they are almost in a civil war against the sand people, there's even a radical guy who said "acept the islam or leave"
It feels SO good to not be part of a deranged minority and actually be able to laugh about things that are simply funny. It must absolutely suck to be offended by everything.
woke liberals are like dictators , they point you as evil , when you dont do everything they said , the only one i bow down and obey is the one and only GOD , Christ is King , and the holy spirit AMEN
People either don't know what that title means, or can simply dismiss him being childish. Hating China while content farming their games just bleeds hypocrisy.
I wonder where is this notice from? From the official website? And why did this MOONMOON dude do this? Cuz he saw the notice and thought it’s ridiculous?
The best part in this moment in moonmoon stream is that he just have banned an asmon chatter trying to get into serious talk about politics in the chat. OMEGALUL
@@AnshumanKantiBose I'm not American, so i am not against the CCP, i think they form of government is better than this democracy thing, you can have it for yourselfs, for my country this never worked.
@@BrunoOLucido In China you will get tortured for months for saying something bad about the government even if its true... And they also do it if they suspect you have. In America you can say whatever you want about the government Thats what shows if your country is good or not.
@@thestrongestlivingcreature Moron. The chinese government does not allow people under 18 to play online games because they have gacha or in-app purchases , but offline games don't require identity verification, so you can play them freely. Spreading such unverified information only highlights your ignorance
But, American gov never forbids you to talk about 911, Iraq, Taiwan, shit talking about its president, or even talking about other propaganda. The only thing considered as forbidden topics are racist, sexism, and loving underage children 😂. American, china, and russia are crook. Nothing is right. They just want reign as nambah wan cuntry.
The people with money have spoken. Theyre supporting a new ISP that is neutral politically with record breaking release player counts. How this keeps happening, and yet the propagandists still convince studios to tank their game is insane.
Most games are developped over years, the games coming out now started production at the peak of wokeness and couldn't course correct before release. Same reason movies still suck despite 4 consecutive years of losses for the movie industry, they either cancel the project altogether or release it and hope they make some ROI.
Americans need to understand that game developers in another country need to conform to different political climates. In the US, that means virtue signaling by DEI to avoid getting cancelled. In China, that means virtue signaling by not talking shit to avoid getting disappeared.
Brother, no one needs to virtue signal to sell a game in the US, what are you on about? Most of them just like to have diversity, but I guess that's a sin in your book. Also, what political climate in China prohibits feminism? Pretty sure that's just the absolute freakshow at that company trying to hide its ass.
Wow. THANK YOU! After reading the spleen venting on Eurogamer earlier today (which, for me, proved why such a notice had to be sent - along with the DEI stuff of course) this commentary is SUCH a breath of fresh air. And reading the comments here I see that I am not alone. Thanks to you Asmon, and thanks to all of you here. Some modicum of faith in humanity restored, for real. And now finally going home to play Wukong!!!!
Must have been the 1850s, when you were still allowed to lynch your local n-words for any reaons. Good times, good times. America First, ammiright, brother?
@@nidungr3496 You have no clue what a disaster Kamala would be in terms of geopolitics. That airhead diversity hire trying to de-escalate the middle east? She'd get laughed out of the room. Trying to de-escalate potential conflict over Taiwan? Ukraine? Israel? The democrats really could not have picked someone who would be less respected in a meeting with a Xi/Putin type.
Is it bullying to talk about a freak when you see one? Post what you want, but if you talk about how specifically you jerk it to your own game characters, then me calling that out isn't really bullying, is it?
0:55 Although Asmod will never read this, in Norse mythology Loki turned himself into a female horse to distract a stallion then came back pregnant. His child then became the 8 legged horse Odin rides.
I imagine this has more hype than Elden Ring because of ER getting so many more souls players into the series, it’s nice seeing so many more people enjoying the genre I love
Fucking finally, a "no feminist propaganda" rule. I've never heard about this game until now, but that seems pretty good. (also 0:56 was a verbal flashbang)
I love how people are willing to simp CCP just because they banned feminist propaganda. Which I approve, but they also basically banned any critics of them, but that's fine, apparently
I’m been saying this for a while now. The anti-woke crowd are slowly becoming no better than the woke crowd. Them saying complete lies about Hogwarts legacy success, the knee jerk reactions and assumptions to seeing stuff that is seen in woke media without looking into it to see if that’s the case, and supporting a game that have clear issues and problems all because it has hot female characters in it. Both sides have no integrity.
What does the CCP have to do with any of this? Do you think the CCP is bored enough to invest into the gaming industry? No one is praising the CCP at all here, I only see people talking shit about china because its china.
@@acccident3349 did you even watch the video? These requirements are enforced by CCP, not the company itself, and company did it because otherwise they will be f*cked. You're measuring it by the US standards, when government can't censor the private company. CCP doesn't need to invest into anything, they own the whole china
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"No feminist propaganda", that rule alone might escalate this game to number one spot in the west.
I imagine some karen named valentine is punching her cats in her hideout somewhere.
In East Europe too😂
I'm going to buy and play it here in a few hours and I hate souls games.
@@Starcraftvidsandsuch It's not a Souls game... Not every 3rd person action game plays like Souls games...
@@GamingRobiotomonster hunter community has been fighting this exact rumour for the last 6 years, ignoring that MH was around before souls
Banning "feminist propaganda" seems like a well deserved middle finger to western game "journalists" specifically.
Yes, they don’t have to do that. They did it to spite the journalists
they're still stuck in the wave of gamer gate propaganda. it's gonna take years for them to 'catch up' when this stuff infects their country.
they won't know what it is until half of africa is living there.
@@Sercer25 "y'all don't know what it's like, being male middle class and white!" ✊🤘
Damn, too many reasons to buy this
bruh 😂🤝
So refreshing to hear the term "feminist propaganda" acknowledged officially by an industry entity in general. That alone makes them goated asf.
It would carry more weight if it was a western developer, they have different attitudes in China so they can stay stuff like this and not have to realistically deal with backlash.
Based China bros 😂
by the studio that made the Wukong game that is so funny lol “FUCK THE SYSTEM EXTEND NYUIBO”
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still better than china propaganda
It amazes me that companies can see this kind of stuff happen time and time again. Yet still think the 7,000 people angry on Twitter are an accurate representation of overall society.
It would be like if in the Middle Ages a king went into the town square. Walked up to the local crazy drunk to listen to his incoherent ramblings. Then went “I can’t believe my kingdom thought this way”
Comparing Twittards with a rambling drunkard in the town square is unfathomably based
I mean, rasputin _was_ a pretty close story to this to be fair
“It’s time for my kingdom to get in line with the RIGHT SIDE of history!” 😂😂😂
I think that absolutely could happen in middle ages. However its not like kings had particular consideration about what their kingdom thinks, so they might do that just out of pure interest, for fun essentially. In that way kings had better grip with reality than novadays corpos.
Given that corpos actually have power of statistics, sales data an many, many other things tho, there might be something else going on here. It can be explained just by incompetence for lesser and lesser extend year by year.
Better comparission would be King listening to his nobles to find out what troubes his country, and gets an answer that main problem in his country is a disastrous shortage of pastries.
Imagining how hard game journalists are seething right now really warms my heart.
Watch them cope and yell censorship
10/10 on steam that's a win for game science and a punch on feminists and woke shit
For some reason my brain didn’t read the seething.
Seething, coping AND dilating.
Brings back happy memories of the Hogwarts Legacy release.
They are asking people to review the game based on gameplay, not ideologies, and game journalists are losing their minds over this.
@Random76544 adding a lot of examples would just give more people ammo to accuse the studio of trying to hide things. They gave the perfect amount of examples for the most obvious things people might rope into a conversation involving a Chinese studio. People that argue about this simply want there to be drama to distract them from how boring their lives are. Their publishers, not the studio or developers, asking to keep discourse to the game itself is in every way a reasonable request.
Every time when a game gets controversial when it relates it not having any DEI propaganda is going to make the game lead to a successful outcome, it just goes to show you that players are actually tired of this thing being included in games because it's unnecessary
And it's not just it being unnecessary, it's a forced agenda that we don't care about
Like you said, the actual problem was Wukong devs didn't interact with publications, and traded that relationship for one with their fan base.
It's mostly just because the game is super popular in China and China has a fuckton of people lol.
DEI = didn't earn it, the more games stay away from it, the better. Wukong, Hogwarts, Stellar blade
Do we need more examples ?
Nah, it also need to be a good game too.
The situation has developed in such a way that public refusal to cooperate with DEI organizations gives your game +100% to popularity.
Which is probably why their marketing department fabricated this whole "controversy"
@@OutsiderLabs Copium. Bunch of juwes in the west fabricated it.
@@OutsiderLabs take your meds pal
this is an easy +500%. this game is more sucessful than elden ring thata crazy
@@OutsiderLabs Uhhh what? Jourmalists have been dragging them for years before this
"Its bing chilling time" - The internet
racist lmao
''It's USAin time'' - The internet
@@escalante5888 nah this comment gave him +1,000,000 social credits
@@escalante5888how is it racist, it's literaly Chinese meme and Chinese game
@@Chrysamer77 it's not a good Chinese meme, we Chinese will feel offended.😥
WHAT INCLUSION. ITS JUST MONKE
EMBRACE THE MONKE
So sad that Harambe died of ligma.
@@pvshka he will still live in our hearts
@@pvshka Who TF is Steve Jobs?
@@Svoorhout85 Ligma bàlls
Whats ligma?@@pvshka
Hogwarts Legacy, Stellar Blade, Elden Ring, Black Myth Wukong and other such games immense success really puts into perspective how irrelevant game journalists are & how they exist in an echo chamber. They are disconnected with the end consumers. The end consumers really dgaf about their opinions & it shows in the sales statistics of all the games these games journalists have either tried to cancel or promote. The games they cancel sell millions of copies & some even become GOTY. And the games they try to hype up tank horribly with just some 200 players playing the game lmao
Real
Elden Ring? FROM is game journalist darling company. They 10/10 and GOTY nominate every single one of them.
The loud minority right there
It's funny that I know these games not through Gamespot, IGN or any game journalist channel or platform
Literally out of touch journalists
2.2 million current players now already this might just break the all time record.
Wait until weekends, then there will be even more players. Now its broke the record for single player game category for having the most concurrent players online.
that is insanely impressive
@@DMBlade4 WoW is a mmorpg, not in the same catagory, there is no competition between them
The game is based on the most popular Chinese myth. It was always going to do well, at least in China.
@JR-wf5kg it seems to be doing OK in other places
The controversy is that a DEI company tried to blackmail them with a $7 million “consultation fee” and they were told no.
So now they’re labeled sexist and racist. This is nasty stuff.
Source?
This story has no source btw
Asmon covered the controversy himself, and talked about it alot. Don't act ignorant, people.
@@JM-vl3cyyour comment doesnt have one either it seems
@@Mehiel-Sanctoria You want sources, I will tell you why sbi went silent for months 😂
who knew a game that is solely focusing on good story, good gameplay, smooth gameplay and not inserting political propaganda will have tons of people wanting to play it
It’s almost like listening to the only couple thousand angry people on Twitter is the wrong thing😭
@@hikhik6441 Na, what's making people want to buy this very average game is the strawman that was created behind a couple of reviews that barely touched on some social issues. Made the nerds angry so bought out of spite. And all you really needed to do was read thr actual article that was demonised.
See when I first heard about it I thought, the same thing, but I don't just stop there. I head to the source and get some perspective. And they points were minor but valid I've seen review bombs happen for less glaring omissions from source material. You geeks are hypocrites.
And their score wasn't even in reference to the omissions from the source material. It was for all the other issues of the product that every other reviewer glossed over with "some of you might want to wait" and "for this reason it might not be for this specific type of player".
I've only been reading manhwa, and watching martial art cgi, never played their games with triple A quality like wukong, trying to role play that is in a whole different level, definitely a lot of wuxia/murim fans gonna flock on it.
@@FriendlyfirefishAh so the age old "everyone is stupid besides me" trope.
@@Friendlyfirefish Your posts lose all credibility when you resort to ad hominem.
We only want players to focus on the game, not politics. I don't think there's anything wrong with these terms.
Yeah, fuck free speech.
You don't get to be your own person while talking about this game.
If they have to comply with the CCP, that sucks, so be it.
That's not where all of this is coming from. The feminism thing is just their own bs.
Yeah and they will be broken right after game relase
A game that's fun? Holy mothers of Nobel prizes hahahahaha
Take this feminists
Yeah basically. I don’t even know why people keep saying the Chinese government has anything to do with this, when it’s obviously just a response to bad faith actors drawing focus away from the quality of the game.
They didn't say don't discuss politics. They said don't discuss feminism or COVID. So they are pushing for a particular kind of politics. The people supporting this don't actually care about free speech.
Asmongold talks way more sense than any of these so-called gaming journalists do.
that's like the lowest possible bar ever though
A baby could speak more sense then a gaming journalist.
@@Bomb6A9Head Asmon has some pretty good takes in alot of his videos. Sometimes he does get it wrong but more often than not he makes sense when discussing something.
Journalist is not a protected term. We all can call ourselves journalists and are as credible as those people.
If you're gullible, I guess. Dude is just as much a propagandist as the tabloid writers masquerading as journalists.
“But we said you can’t like it😡” Americans living in San Francisco/Los Angeles
I played first 10 hours. It is good but not amazing. It's not a game of the year material for sure.
@@adlibconstitution1609Fair.
@@adlibconstitution1609so what you’re saying is that you hate women?
@@adlibconstitution1609I mean what's your GOTY contender for this year?
@@adlibconstitution1609for you 🤷🏻
The success of this game has nothing to do with DEI. It’s not that the absence of DEI made it successful; it’s just not relevant. The real reason Black Myth: Wukong took off is that it hit the mark with what Chinese gamers want in a single-player game.
First, there’s a huge demand for games based on ancient Chinese mythology, especially Journey to the West, which is a classic that almost every Chinese person loves.
Second, there’s a growing desire for high-quality single-player games because people are fed up with the pay-to-win model dominating the online gaming scene in China.
To explain this, you have to know that China is wealthy now and already has a huge game market. However it’s all about local pay-to-win online games. Take Genshin Impact, for example-it’s popular, but it doesn’t even crack the top three in China’s online gaming market.
In recent years, the demand for single-player games has skyrocketed, and Black Myth: Wukong met this need, pulling players away from those online games.
Interestingly, if you dig into some early news in China, you’ll find that some game journalists, hired by big companies, tried to undermine Black Myth.
Personally, I don’t think the game is perfect; it has its flaws. But as a Chinese gamer, it’s a must-buy because people want more single-player games that reflect Chinese culture. And they understand that the best way to get more of these games is to support companies like Game Science, who stands with players and are genuinely trying to make great games, even under pressure.
I mean, you are describing the Western market as well. The Western market is DESPERATE for an AAA level game that has a good story, good characters, good graphics, no ultra predatory model, and isn't preachy af.
Anyone who is even tangentially familiar with Easter Asian culture knows of Wukong and Journey to the West. And of course, what better way to tell a story when you get a game made by Chinese people?
Can you imagine what EA or Ubisoft would have done to butcher this game? I don't even want to think about it.
BRUH THANKS. I thought everyone here is in an absolute psychosis. I even felt a bit gas-lighted because so many here talk about "woke journalism" and "woke people peeing their pants rn" even though I haven't seen a single person saying that the game is not fun or problematic in any way. lmao
It's legit a good game and Asian/Chinese, that's the main reason here
Great post, not only the P2W features in any competitive scene but also the rampant cheating in every multiplayer game ruins the integrity of the experience. It’s why games like Elden ring, BG3 have been so highly successful in recent times. This game isn’t my cup of tea per se, but I support the message behind it and if more games follow it’ll be good for all gamers
Of course it has some flaw. Game science or Chinese gaming industry have never created a AAA game before, i am suprise it broke so much game record with only a more than 140 worker lol. Now imagine what chinese game developer will create in the future when they first hits is a huge success.
There is no controversy. It's just a bunch of snowflakes upset over nothing
"Why doesn't my Chinese game based on Chinese culture look enough like LA community theater?!" -most intellectual games journalist
@@wrayday7149 source?
Imagine the games journalists thinking they are speaking for the majority. Talking about a fringe minority with a very loud mouth.
How much did the Chinese government pay you?
Of course there's no controversy it's just activists upset that they're not being pandered to.
Controversy? Oh, please. It’s just another instance of so-called game "journalists" throwing a fit because they can’t comprehend that this game is based on Chinese folklore, which clearly doesn’t align with their forced diversity. Instead of appreciating the game's quality like its gameplay, physics, and storyline, they're busy whining about the absence of black characters and such, as if every studio has a magical diversity box to tick.
I wonder where is this notice from? From the official website? And why did this MOONMOON dude do this? Cuz he saw the notice and thought it’s ridiculous?
@@ryana5435ofc it is ridiculous but nowadays it is a necessity because westerners ( 90% of the Americans) complain about everything like why no lesbians here why no strong women here etc etc ofc this notice is ridiculous but I don’t blame them if they think it is necessary
@@kevindogaru4080 well maybe if they stop trying to make just one group of people feel special maybe just maybe we can stop acting like these people are gods and actually worry making a game that everyone can enjoy minus all the propaganda and assumptions.
@@kevindogaru4080 On the other side, if video games included well written strong feminist/lesbian characters, they will get angry again because well written requires character's growth, responsibility, having a personality etc. They can't handle that
Actually the female characters from journey to the west are the only ones the game cut out from the story
Sun Wukong's game monkeyung around with people's triggers is as expected of the mythical figure itself. I'm all in for it. 😂
Higher all-time peak than Cyberpunk 2077, Elden Ring, GTA V and Baldur's Gate 3. That is NUTS.
Label something "anti-Woke" and all the incels will flock to support you
As a Chinese,
wukong is a god that every Chinese has worshipped since childhood. He is not the strongest god, but he is indeed a brave man who fights against the injustice of destiny.
@@dreamjames8784 even outside of china wukong is a very popular and cherished character. in some places he's even more popular than the journey to the west
@@dreamjames8784 Yeah, nobody cares.
It's not surprising when you realize that overwhelming majority of players are Chinese. There's only 1% of English reviews on Steam. Also Wukong isn't available on the Chinese Steam.
1.4m dam that's impressive. Shows those Twitter and journalists weirdos are irrelevant
2 million++ on steam not include epic,wegame, and ps5 yet.
2.2m now
Game journalists are like clowns... never taken seriously and only sometimes you laugh at them.
For just another soulslike?
@@PhantomGardener more like nioh and sekiro. faster pace arpg
Can we stop calling this kinda of stuff a controversy? It’s not. It’s literally a small sect of people who are so disconnected from reality that they will complain about literally everything. It’s not controversial it’s blatant stupidity
People who think Chinas bad policies led to the spread of Covid is a much larger demographic than you are accounting for. There was much more to those conditions than just the "Feminist propaganda" one. Any major Chinese game was going to face this one way or another, and it just happened to be Wukong that was the one that triggered it.
Now THIS is what ACTUAL DIVERSITY is. People just doing things differently
Suppressing free speech is diversity now, got it
This whole game is about Chinese culture, that’s the real diversity we should strive for. Diversity of game settings and sticking to those settings, not having one setting and craming every different type of person in their.
Embracing nationalism in general is TRUE diversity.
@@jmy0616 only if your globalist ????
@@jmy0616 Yes. The end goal for pushing for "diversity" is to end diversity through mixing. Only the elite benefits from it.
0:57 this part fucken killed me lol
made me sad :V
No monke sex
NOOOOO
@@XenonArcher womp womp
@@XenonArchertoo bad, so sad
I almost held it together, until he said "you f*cking FREAK!" OML my chest hurts.
Editor just a correction. The all time peak player count that was set until Wukong released was by Cyberpunk 2077 not Elden Ring.
He was in fact comparing the game to only Elden Ring. He meant Elden Ring's all time player count, not in general. Stop being a pedantic clown. "eDiToR jUsT A CoRrEctiOn" lmfao
Why call him a clown? He's right.@@tapsofosiris3110
I usually wait 3-4 days after the new games released and then i see the reviews. Those reviews especially in Steam are way more better than the reviews from the journalist
@@rockstarboi2209 because the reviews from are steam are written from people who actually play the game instead of troglodytes who care more about diversity instead of gameplay.
@@giorgaras1851 based
Half of the reviews are 0.2 0.3 hours ,you can't even get through menu in 20min ,how you can review game in less then a hour
Welp, for now its a thousands and thousands of
totally agreed with you, 9/10，reviews are comes from chinese in chinese， LOL
The "feminist propoganda" point seems like a giant jab at the redditors and the game journalists
With a side of boosters
I've literally not seen one review that has said anything beyond "it removed females from the source materials impact in the story". Thats it. None of them have reduced scored because of it. Lol. This is an entire strawman. Try reading the reviews instead of taking what these other "journos" spout as fact.
It’s a jab at the sad state of western society in general.
@@Mirristal what's odd is that you lot don't want the other half of your relationship to be able to earn more income and help you guys buy those homes you keep bitching about not being able to buy
@@Friendlyfirefish huh? feminist propaganda and someone making money based on merit are two different things. Did people “bitch” about buying homes decades ago? No. There’s reasons for that, and it’s not because of feminist bs. Now go get a brain boy
Sun Wukong was born from a stone crevice, making him a silicon-based lifeform, and thus, a member of a minority group. As a stone monkey, he is genderless and can be seen as a representative of the LGBT community. Additionally, as a monk, he is also a vegetarian. He created chaos in the underworld to prevent his fellow monkeys from being oppressed, showing that he is a noble animal rights activist. After being trapped under the Five Elements Mountain for 500 years, suffering greatly, he gained a deep understanding of freedom, making him a liberal. He respectfully addresses women as "Goddess of Mercy," showing his support for women's rights, making him a feminist. His journey to extinguish the flames of Fire Mountain showcases him as a great environmental warrior. The storyline in the Kingdom of Women, involving male pregnancy and the allowance of abortion, further reflects a progressive stance on reproductive rights. Such a figure, embodying multiple attributes like minority status, LGBT identity, vegetarianism, animal rights activism, feminism, environmentalism, and liberalism, and with his 72 transformations piling on more and more buffs, how could anyone say he is politically incorrect?
He's not vegetarian, his master is :)
The story of Wukong is finally getting the attention it deserves
lol
that char is a legend! Definitely worth a triple A treatment.
Goku gave us all a wukong story.
@@toddtherodgod1867 Goku's character design was based off Wukong but his story wasn't about Wukong
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It blows my mind how games that get shat on by journalists always come out on top. It’s almost as if journalists don’t matter 🤔
they dont care about the product itself but what the product can do externally
Why, they do matter. They will shat on anything that have no coplience with their agenda, and will praise everything which have. And they do not know anything about gameplay being good anyway. So you can just ignore their gameplay take and reverse shat to praising and praising to shat. Pretty usable i should say, yet ineffective.
they're engaging in a literal shakedown of game science, that's why, they refused the offer of a western dei consultancy firm to consult on the game for $7Mn dollars and then the hit pieces started. I'm pretty sure this is actually a felony crime, racketeering, and that people who do this usually get the RICO act used on them which screws up their lives completely.
this is actually anticompetitive business behavior as well, so antitrust might be another route.
considering we know these people are all BFF palsy walsies on various socialist social media hives of scum and villainry and such little collusion rings in the gaming media have been revealed in the past, I have no doubt there that there's grounds here at least for an exploratory investigation into potential criminal activity by a federal agency, say, after january.
It's almost like games are about creating what you want and having people play them, not dabble in politics.
Game journalism, like any journalism, is as useful as the journalists you follow, just gotta know the real ones.
It’s just a game, play the fucking game. Stop getting politics on everything
"Just consume comrade"
Found the perfect bootlicker.
Seriously. These people are insufferable.
Facts. Journey to the West transcends any politics. It'd be like going and politicizing the Iliad. Its a grand adventure, let it be free from the nonsense.
To those dirty urinalists:
"Take it easy. It's just a drawing."
- Patrick
The nerve of a tiny group of "americans."
tell that to all those leftist fanatics
In other words: only talk about the game. I am all for that...
But don't saying anything women related.... It might come out as unintentional propaganda.
@@Myth-Enjoyer what is there to discuss about women in this game?
@@slanderking69 Themes and messages that further the tyrannical female agenda that I will not speak of in fear of spreading female propaganda. (I have no flipping idea)
@@Myth-Enjoyer "In this game we are playing as an anthropomorphic monkey fighting enemies that are derived from a famous Chinese story. But of course the most important thing about this game are women" - You, probably
Well, the last topic technically prtevents you from talking about the game... because its a result of the chinese games industry and the CCPs now open "requests" for them to copy recent AAA games (like GoW, including having the same issues with walking down stairs and using trashy animation locks with no recovery tweens/transition and cancel options as if it were a PS1 game with Wukong... actually i lie, even PS1 games like Soul Reaver had dodges that attack cancel on input).
Don't get political and play the game. Seems reasonable to me.
Use to be common sense
Not to me. I paid for the product, I will do with it what I please. Violating copyright laws should be the only exception to this. Just because you sold me something doesn't mean you get to tell me what to do with it.
For real mate, i read those do or don'ts and... Those are controversial? Those are basics when you just wanna enjoy the game.
@@Mehiel-Sanctoria this apply to the people that get the key to play it early dum dum not you thay pay for it
@@Mehiel-Sanctoria pls daddy pls I'm bad girl hehe uwu
It's crazy how you can tell if it's a real controversy or Tuesday on twitter from the title alone
The journalists won't stop until there's a character named Miguel in the game about ancient Chinese mythology.
Black Myth: Wukong crushes Elden Ring and Cyberpunk 2077's all-time player records on Steam with 1.2 million and counting...
Hope it reaches the highest highs to tell all companies to man up and scrap the Shackles they have on with SBI break the chains and be free
True... but wait to see if people like the game in general.... don't count all your (commie) eggs until they hatch ( in to credits ). Bing ice creaming...
I believe the famous saying goes
1.5 now
It's very impressive, and it's currently sitting as the top 4th alltime-player record behind Counterstrike, Palworld, and Pubg.
This is absolutely incredible, especially considering that,
it is a single player game.
@@HAL-9OOO it helps a lot china is 20% of the world population.
“No diversity and inclusion”
That’s a pro, not a con.
The game has immense diversity and inclusion. Many animals, many religions, many differing beliefs…
This is classed as terrorism in the UK now
games?
@@DerusGrindz he's actually not far from the truth. UK is cracking down on online discourse and it actively saying you can't talk about feminism could trigger someone over there and they report you to the police.
@@007DEAD same place that has that strange misogyny law or whatever it is?
@@007DEAD so? It’s just a game, code, and all that. I swear man, back then almost every thing had at least one offensive thing towards something.
@@ghostguy_x7085 I'm not telling you anything but for what it is in the UK. There are videos everywhere of people being arrested for wrong think. This is a reality! They are even trying to work with the US government to extradition orders.
Any game that gives the middle finger to Dei and feminism is a game worth getting
Yip 2 big killers of shows, games etc now
@@danieln6700 Good job sheep bet you also followed through with not saying anything bad about china like a good boy
@@trashcan7140so you are one of the DEI, I see
@@trashcan7140 i'll rather take CCP propaganda rather than DEI propaganda , at least the CCP doesn't hate me because i'm white male + im not even american so
@@trashcan7140the irony in your comment…
Trunks: “So you’re Sun Wukong right?” *internal voice: (“DAMMIT!”)
Goku: “I’m Son Goku, yes.”
Trunks: “Roll with it.”
"Modern Audience" is not playing Wukong. Rest - are playing.
We see how BIG rest is compared to "Modern Audience".
0:57 Rejected Rainbow Humanoid Dog Creature
Return to Armored Monke
Monke，together，strong
Info to be clear : the guidelines don't enforce any streamers or influencer since you don't sign anything so nothing illegal if you don't follow them.
It's literally a guideline from the Chinese marketing company (so not even the game dev studio) that advice them to not talking about these topics.
Thank SBI for promoting this game
They're trying so hard to bring this game down. It hit 1.45m peak concurrent players, which blew elden ring and BG3 out of the water.
Who is "trying hard"?
All I saw was an IGN article about the developers being giant freaks,
making the line about "no fetishization" pretty hypocritical",
considering their devs post instruction on how to jerk it to the female characters.
My bet is GOTY!
only because China is supporting it. If it was just western gamers it would not be as popular. I don't know a single person who bought this game. We are still playing Elden Ring DLC
It is important to point out that most of the players are chinese. They are very likely 70 - 95% of the playerbase. Since 95% of the steam reviews are Chinese. Wukong is a very popular character in China. It is not surprising it is doing really good over there. The only thing I could see winning over that game with that playerbase is if GTA 6 gets released on Steam at launch.
@@bogustav You might be right, though it did hit 2.2m concurrent players which regardless of the playerbase - for a single player action RPG is beyond impressive and is definitely a historical achievement, especially for such a new developer on their debut title. I'm also seeing a tonne of praise for the game from western content creators.
though yeah, Journey to the west from what I understand is basically Marvel levels of popular in China etc. I'm looking forward to playing it. It's downloaded on my ps5, I'm just holding off for when I can sit down for more than 1 hour to play it so I can get fully immersed in the game without interruptions.
The fact that they listed it between violence and fetishization is just... yikes. Hope this is a wake up call for the oblivious zealots.
That's what they look like to an objective neutral party.
“The Chronically Online don’t want you to like this game”
Since when is anyone saying you can't like this game
@@aayy9540 weird. I don’t remember typing “can’t”
I did not think 1,5 million players would have RTX 4090s. That's crazy.
It is yeah, I own a 4080 and I already feel gangster.
4060ti and im getting 91 fps very high no frame gen
Dude did you actually ran the Benchmark tool? I'm getting avg 56 FPS on GTX 1650ti which goes to show how optimized the game is!
Minimum requirements is a RTX 1060. That means you will get 60 fps even if you shovel the pixels onto the screen by hand instead of having a GPU in your computer.
They don't. And people still want to play it
Just for the record - I searched for this game on some torrent trackers in Russia, they have game client there but without a crack which is expected because of Denuvo.
But what I didn't expect is to see there chinese bot accounts that praise the game using google translator and poorly written comments.
How many developers would fall to such lowly thing? Thats a flag for me, maybe not red, but yellow for sure. Thought of giving them money but now I won't.
Yep, there's probably a lot of astrourfing. But the thing is, you can also watch Western or non-Chinese streamers play this game and the game looks pretty fun. I don't think it's the next elden ring since the majority of the purchases are from Chinese citizens themselves but, it's a pretty competent game. It kind of reminds me of a game we would see in the mid 2000s to 2010s where it doesn't do anything really good, but it takes a lot of good things that we've seen from other games put them together, and then also tells a story that a lot of people are a fan of, even here in the west.
And that's fine, back then games that were not AAA but maybe single A or AA existed and those were fun.
remember that word, fun? imagine that.
@@Keirnoth Yeah, I didn't said that game is bad, but I just say that these numbers are not totally comparable and fair. I heard that in China some companies even gave a 1-day vacation on launch day if you pre-ordered this game. CCP knows well how to make a picture that they want to show.
I'm surprised they didn't put whinney the poo in the joke stream
excellent PFP brother. LOVE AND PEACE
Winnie*
@@TheMan21892*Whiney the poo
Sorry but whiney the poo is political
I don’t want to get banned 🙃
They would get complaints from Winnie the Pooh theme park in Shanghai
This game is beautiful, plays well and more importantly immerses me in eastern Asian mythos without a shred of woke western agendas.
"without a shred of woke western agendas" will you ever grow out of it?
No one cares
I can't even get it to run. Crashes all the time. I made it past the compiling shaders screen once.
Remember, success is THE best type of revenge. You’re too busy dealing with success to bother with the negativity from the miserables who try to drag you down. Bonus is their ego is hurt and they fume watching you be successful and happy.
You seem no different with your bonus statement.
Thanks Editor
0:56
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This is what companies need to learn, negative attention isnt always a bad thing, it can actually help , stop trying to avoid negative opinions and just make what you love
@@Beanzer80 they made up the negative attention so a bunch of incels would buy it. This is all a strawman marketing ploy.
@Friendlyfirefish if you trying to say that it is incels who is against DEI and woke shit then you need a reality check, like for real.
@@ChuckTheChosen no, what I'm saying is that this was a strawman built on an article that barely mentioned social problems. Only that some characters that are a major part of the source material were removed/downplayed. Things that geeks routinely review bomb over.
Then, they go on to say that those minor story issues aren't playing a role in their score and its more for the bland, repetitive combat, performance issues, etc. The same things all the other reviewers have being pointing out might irk some people.but that's all glossed over because you can create some moral outrage instead with these precious nerds that feel like things aren't made for them anymore.
Then you have a bunch of people saying that this middle finger to diversity is the exact reason why they are going to buy a game they weren't even interested in buying to begin with.
Incel marketing ploy successful.
Negative attention from the Chinese government when your company is in china is never a good thing 😂
It's about time they hear what the consumer wants 😂 Or stay broke and poor.
I'd say their 'controversy' (aka marketing campaign) was very successful indeed.
This right here. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was a clever psyop setup by the game studio. All they would have to do is leak a few emails and then start posting about it on Twitter/reddit. They saw how successful it made stellar blade and Harry Potter
I think “controversy” is made by these influencers who want shit on DEI and gain some engagement and money from doing this. The devs are kinda surprised about all these
@@ryana5435A lot of the controversy were actual IGN articles and stuff where they double down and defend it though
I fucking love Moonmoon, guy just put everything the email said not not talk about in the title, he didn't give a single fuck lmao
this notice was in fact for all the journalists who got early access to the game. game science wanted the reviews to be rid of sinophobic prejudice & woke bs, and just be 100% focused on the game itself, which imo is nothing wrong. they dont really care about the steamers lol
@@homarika3809I mean, hating on the Chinese government is not sinophobic. It's called being correct. I hate on large governments in general, including our own US government and I have zero qualms about speaking crap about the Chinese government.
We just didn't want streamers talking about things that would undermine the Chinese government in general and get the eye of sauron looking at game science the developer. The government does not like being criticized, If they didn't put these rules in there, the developers themselves might end up being disappeared even if it's a random streamer that says it because from the government's point of view, the developer allowed it to happen.
If you've been watching Asmongold long enough you can see how there's some parallels between how the current administration in the US and certain Western European governments are acting when they go after someone like Elon musk complaining about so-called hate speech on X.
It's actually kind of depressing how it's starting to sound kind of similar between the west and the Chinese government.
When I heard that this studio was "based in china" I didn't know they literally meant BASED
I play games to be entertained, not to brainwash or get brainwashed.
Yes you do
@@kibblezzzwhat was the point of this comment? You’re agreeing with his statement and adding nothing. If you are going to comment, add something. If you just agree with nothing to add, there’s a button for that.
yes you do
@@thehousecat93yes you do
@@riki4404 got me there
I don’t get it, what propaganda do they want? The bosses are a bear, a rat, a tiger, a devil, a dragon , and a monkey. And the main character is a monkey. What kind diversity do people want?
I'm glad to see a company that actually fights back against woke slander
?? are u just gonna ignore the other 90% that was abt censoring anything to do with china ?? LMAO u guys would bend over backwards for anyone that says anything anti-woke 😭
who knew Tencent was the leader of free speech?
@@Oriental-lg9pb no they're not. You can't call the CCP a c*nt with this policy; which is counter to free speech.
I think everything here is perfectly reasonable but lets not pretend ex tencent employees are a random company
@@Oriental-lg9pbPeople like to hate tencent because of their government... until there were no good Western games left to buy.
As an Asian, this sort of rules around Buddhism is pretty on brand. In Thailand alone, we have several billboards of people getting arrested or beaten for having a Buddhist tattoo or a Buddha toilet cover. That billboard is just outside the airport exit to let foreigners know what’s up
I'm from thailand and I think that's messed up, yes, it's a real thing, especially when it also comes to criticising the royal family, but it shows the grim reality of how freedom of speech abslutely does not exist
that's actually good, protecting your culture/religion
Europe should had done that but now they are almost in a civil war against the sand people, there's even a radical guy who said "acept the islam or leave"
@user-fb1mw2nl3iWhich is exactly what's needed
That’s horrible, I’m gonna go sit on my Jesus Christ toilet seat cover
It breaks 2.2 millions when the time I'm watching this video.
It feels SO good to not be part of a deranged minority and actually be able to laugh about things that are simply funny. It must absolutely suck to be offended by everything.
woke liberals are like dictators , they point you as evil , when you dont do everything they said , the only one i bow down and obey is the one and only GOD , Christ is King , and the holy spirit AMEN
dont worry even a fuck ton of minority groups dont want that alphabet community or DEI bullshit.
Fuckin A, man. Fuckin A.
@@__________________________Fred whhsts funny is the number of people that fell for the obvious marketing ploy
Moonmoon went hard on that stream title LUL
Anything for the clicks! He's good at that. :p
kinda cringe to be honest. Trying too hard for a joke that's been around a while already
People either don't know what that title means, or can simply dismiss him being childish. Hating China while content farming their games just bleeds hypocrisy.
This joke probably costed him all his social credit.
I wonder where is this notice from? From the official website? And why did this MOONMOON dude do this? Cuz he saw the notice and thought it’s ridiculous?
The best part in this moment in moonmoon stream is that he just have banned an asmon chatter trying to get into serious talk about politics in the chat. OMEGALUL
00:32 BIG ASS W
i dont get how "swearing bad" is part of the guidelines but ofc it is, the east is always the east and you cant change that
"Government coming in there and basically fucking their shit up" what
The Chinese government has executed people for less.
I respect the Skyrim background music. Keep it coming editor
Absolutely unfathomably based devs
I guess only pro-r*pe discourse should be allowed
NEVER BOUGHT A FULL PRICE GAME ON STEAM....... UNTIL TODAY 😂😂😂😂
@@wingleburt3146 well done for falling for the marketing ploy
and with 129k reviews it has a 96% positivty rating and that is insane. Well done to them.
Game journalists made me side with ccp.
That's how bad they are.
No that's just how weak minded you are.😂
You can stand against both.
Honestly the journalists are the lesser of the 2 evils here.
@@AnshumanKantiBose maybe it's a joke?
But i'm sure you already know that considering you are a strong minded person.
@@AnshumanKantiBose I'm not American, so i am not against the CCP, i think they form of government is better than this democracy thing, you can have it for yourselfs, for my country this never worked.
@@BrunoOLucido In China you will get tortured for months for saying something bad about the government even if its true... And they also do it if they suspect you have.
In America you can say whatever you want about the government
Thats what shows if your country is good or not.
@@AnshumanKantiBose china far ahead of india in everything by 50yrs and as good as the west
Wu kong is based and is an incredible game.
Most of the playerbase of Wukong is Chinese, while Elden Ring, even US and Japan combined, they can't beat the population of China
Definitely a great marketing strategy
They’ll all be playing it during their weekly government-allowed hour of video game time
@@thestrongestlivingcreature Moron. The chinese government does not allow people under 18 to play online games because they have gacha or in-app purchases , but offline games don't require identity verification, so you can play them freely. Spreading such unverified information only highlights your ignorance
@@thestrongestlivingcreature and? look at results
Funnily enough, American government do the same thing, just more experienced, more insidious, and more effective.
But, American gov never forbids you to talk about 911, Iraq, Taiwan, shit talking about its president, or even talking about other propaganda. The only thing considered as forbidden topics are racist, sexism, and loving underage children 😂.
American, china, and russia are crook. Nothing is right. They just want reign as nambah wan cuntry.
no no no, they would never do that! how dare you say something like that? /s
@@glowiedetector half of my reply always get auto delete, YT is very compliance, to the neo roman senate.
Exactly it’s just the opposite of what they’re doing on this game.
Pretty much.
Doesn't make this ok though.
If someone wants to talk about feminism, let them.
When you have to rely on a totalitarian communist regime to keep DEI out of your video games 💀
We don't, South Korea exists (Japan is now sus thanks to Capcom and Square)
@@malcovich_games South Korea is monopoly’s totalitarian country 💀
dawg, china ain't a "totalitarian communist regime", it ain't the 1950s anymore
@@Alexander-vo4gv yup but people don't know that.
@@FazeParticles we cant have too much of expectation when some people still believe in flat earth and WMD exist.
Can we still yell: MONKEY POX!?
The people with money have spoken. Theyre supporting a new ISP that is neutral politically with record breaking release player counts.
How this keeps happening, and yet the propagandists still convince studios to tank their game is insane.
Most games are developped over years, the games coming out now started production at the peak of wokeness and couldn't course correct before release. Same reason movies still suck despite 4 consecutive years of losses for the movie industry, they either cancel the project altogether or release it and hope they make some ROI.
That's because the people running those studios are also propagandists.
ISP? Internet Service Provider?
@@ryana5435 Yes, the game goes so hard that it will provide you with internet service, too.
@@ryana5435 Yeah, he probably means IP -- Intellectual Property.
Americans need to understand that game developers in another country need to conform to different political climates. In the US, that means virtue signaling by DEI to avoid getting cancelled. In China, that means virtue signaling by not talking shit to avoid getting disappeared.
Blackrock will absolutely make companies disappear in investment.
@@cattysplat definitely, my dude
Brother, no one needs to virtue signal to sell a game in the US, what are you on about?
Most of them just like to have diversity, but I guess that's a sin in your book.
Also, what political climate in China prohibits feminism?
Pretty sure that's just the absolute freakshow at that company trying to hide its ass.
In Chapter 3 you have Female boss. Very nice Design, kick like hell. Some of "Journalist" play only 2 chapters.
Wow. THANK YOU!
After reading the spleen venting on Eurogamer earlier today (which, for me, proved why such a notice had to be sent - along with the DEI stuff of course) this commentary is SUCH a breath of fresh air. And reading the comments here I see that I am not alone. Thanks to you Asmon, and thanks to all of you here. Some modicum of faith in humanity restored, for real.
And now finally going home to play Wukong!!!!
Eurogamer been speedrunning their death since they issued blackout ban against Hogwarts Legacy.
So "controversial" is now a synonym of successful, just like "hatespeech" is a synonym of logic. 2024 ladies and gentlemen
Remember when Americans loved America?
Must have been the 1850s, when you were still allowed to lynch your local n-words for any reaons.
Good times, good times. America First, ammiright, brother?
I do
@@lutherloser5122 Pepperidge Farm remembers…
@@nidungr3496 You have no clue what a disaster Kamala would be in terms of geopolitics. That airhead diversity hire trying to de-escalate the middle east? She'd get laughed out of the room. Trying to de-escalate potential conflict over Taiwan? Ukraine? Israel? The democrats really could not have picked someone who would be less respected in a meeting with a Xi/Putin type.
XINEMA!
Let's fucking go!!! 😤🙌
That stream thumbnail is hilarious!
I thought peak was 1.8M by set by counter strike?
More than 2 million concurrent player zenith set on the Steam program alone by the more affordable Palworld
Single player game. And the record isn't held by Elden ring but Cyberpunk.
Oh no I am *triggered*
The words hurt my eyes 🤣
So you *are* triggered...
"No Fetishization" - Helldivers 2 discord mods and community managers seething
Well done devs! Dont let the favists bully you
Is it bullying to talk about a freak when you see one?
Post what you want, but if you talk about how specifically you jerk it to your own game characters,
then me calling that out isn't really bullying, is it?
@@hexcodeff6624 idk what the fuck you talk about but yes, the woke mind are favists bullies
0:55 Although Asmod will never read this, in Norse mythology Loki turned himself into a female horse to distract a stallion then came back pregnant. His child then became the 8 legged horse Odin rides.
Odin riding on an 8 legged horse (Sleipnir) is apparently the root idea behind Santa Claus riding on a sleigh with 8 reindeer.
norse mythology is loki freaky
I mean, he probably didnt do that to impose his ideals of equity and tolerance. He is Loki. He essentially did that just for lulz.
What does Loki and the story with Sleipnir have to do with it?
@@sinner5452 lul i swear i just saw your comment disappear and then reappear
I imagine this has more hype than Elden Ring because of ER getting so many more souls players into the series, it’s nice seeing so many more people enjoying the genre I love
Fucking finally, a "no feminist propaganda" rule. I've never heard about this game until now, but that seems pretty good. (also 0:56 was a verbal flashbang)
I love how people are willing to simp CCP just because they banned feminist propaganda. Which I approve, but they also basically banned any critics of them, but that's fine, apparently
I’m been saying this for a while now. The anti-woke crowd are slowly becoming no better than the woke crowd. Them saying complete lies about Hogwarts legacy success, the knee jerk reactions and assumptions to seeing stuff that is seen in woke media without looking into it to see if that’s the case, and supporting a game that have clear issues and problems all because it has hot female characters in it. Both sides have no integrity.
What does the CCP have to do with any of this? Do you think the CCP is bored enough to invest into the gaming industry? No one is praising the CCP at all here, I only see people talking shit about china because its china.
naive
@@acccident3349 did you even watch the video? These requirements are enforced by CCP, not the company itself, and company did it because otherwise they will be f*cked. You're measuring it by the US standards, when government can't censor the private company. CCP doesn't need to invest into anything, they own the whole china
This is such a dumb take. Its like saying you support US president if u like a game made from the US
nothing says you can sing, "xue hua piao piao"
The game is pretty good so far, definitely not as good as elden ring, but it's about on par with Dragon's Dogma 2 without the performance issues.
so its trash?