Bring on Farage post brexit to form a Capitalist Democrat Party and another far right winger to form a Neoliberal Nationalist party post brexit to split the 35% to 45% (depending on the turnout) seemingly permanent tory vote in general elections.
Not to mention his fan club of glorified far left hipsters who hijacked the membership and pulled Labour away from its Centre Left Social Democratic Trade Union roots
@@frazerspence4331 don't be a moron. Does nationalising the railways sound like a good idea? instead of those profits going to Europe? how about protecting the NHS? good idea? these are sensible ideas for creating a more equal society....communism or your thin grasp of political science is a political label to muddy those waters and get the turkeys voting for xmas. People like you need to get a political education so you can stop repeating right wing bullshit
@@paulbattenbough1002 Telling people they're ignorant hasn't worked for the past 4 years. Clearly Labor voters are very smart, just not good with basic psychology?
2017 - Labour promised to honour the result of the EU Referendum. 2019 - Labour had no position on Brexit beyond holding a second EU Referendum. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out where Labour went wrong.
Everybody here who deplores Labour for their leftist stand just fell into sloganeering traps. Conservatives like Ian Duncan-Smith who authored the austerity bill are the real culprits here as well as Bullingdon club members like Boris Johnson and David Cameron. The elitist calls everybody left of them leftist. That's how far gone they are.
and yet they say ''that's not real socialism'' and the Soviet Union was nothing to do with what we intend'' etc etc then in their offices you see Che Guvera posters/ hammer and sickle iconography/ and they call each other ''the Comrade'' you cite! so their relation to communism is similar to when they say ''Corbyn doesn't support terrorists! yeah ok billy bullshit!
@brinna66 You know more and more American replies to British issues confirm that there is an American digital disinformation farm influencing the political climate in the UK. We don't say bullshit here.
@@oldschoolcockneylover8138 You're just a pretender posing as a UK citizen but really you're from America. Hardly anybody say "bullshit" in the UK. Yet your username says "England expects"??? What are you really saying in your reply. It's incoherent.
Labour's disdain for the working classes began under Blair and was compounded when Brown called a constituent "a bigoted woman" because of her concerns over the levels of immigration.
It all started in Rotherham. People know exactly what went on there whith the labour council Labour just turned their backs on the real white working class people they are the party of the immigrants.
Capitalist Pig or when stupid people believed the Daily Mail. I will not be affected by the Tories one bit. I’m gonna watch with glee how people who voted Tory will get screwed by them. I love it!
Its simple in 2017 Labour said we will honour the referendum result, we will support leaving the EU then once MPs got elected they blocked a deal, blocked no deal and wouldn't allow an election until they run out of excuses. Now in 2019 they say trust us, vote for us what did they think would happen?.
ancietman This is hardly an argument, if I list all the things the other idiot promised and had 9 years to deliver, and still hasn't and yet people elected him, perhaps you've all collectively suffer from the Stockholm syndrome. The reason he was not elected is because he was accused of anti-Semitism that's what favoured the other side. (This is of course if we're to believe that the vote was genuine) I don't believe that the people had a say in this at all, I know they elect who they want, when they want, if they want. And this is why I have never voted in my entire life and I will not vote for as long as I live.
@ Samuel Barry You say you don't vote... THEN YOU HAVE NO SAY !! END OF. ... But let's approach this as if you are or seem to be a Labour sympathizer. Labour's own MP's have denounced Corbyn. So they are wrong... everybody is The majority of the people have Stockholm Syndrome. Or the vote was fake/false/rigged. Delusional...although you do sound like many of the MP's and their comments of late. Good grief even many of your own MP's have denounced Corbyn, and a former front Bencher ( until very recently) has said he was a very poor communicator to his own MP's, in that he wasn't a talker. So everybody who voted, or rather who didn't vote Labour were wrong? Then the comments after the fact including your own MP's and party members are wrong? That's what you are saying? Today is the first time I have ever heard him answer any question DIRECTLY about anti Semitism in the Labour ranks. He said he had put into place something to deal with anti-Semitism and yet he still didn't apologise for all the wrongs etc. that had occurred. He's the Leader it IS his job to take responsibility. His comments today, …. but for tactical voting he/Labour would have gained a few seats...HIS WORDS!! Not how many of Labour's Redwall were lost!! Delusional. He has obviously got it wrong ( yeah I know you think everyone else has and not him) and still wants to hang around to mull over the loss. Let me remind you.. the MAJORITY voted him out. Let's see him try to NOT honour that! Oh this time he can do nothing about it. Rigged vote HA HA HA .That's beyond delusional... certainly helps your argument, doesn't it? Errr , nope!! Wonder what it would take for the number of seats to reach 326 to be rigged so Corbyn would lose? Thousands of people sworn to secrecy, never ever to mention they have been bought off. Those counting the voting slips to 'miscount' or 'lose' the votes or to put a massive number in the Con's column?Media would not see anything? The people interviewed before and after … all paid to say it's because of Corbyn... how did the rigging work? You seem to think it is /was possible... please explain how this massive gap in numbers of seats was managed? ABSOLUTELY DELUSIONAL. Hmm strange thing is you are the only person I have seen anywhere who claims rigging is a possibility.
@@alwaysflat7996 You really think all those working class in the north voting against their traditional party in favour of their long term rivals the Tories because of 'anti-antisemitism'.. You really are clueless fool haha.
Caroline Flint is a p*ick who has no one to blame but herself. Hundreds of other Labour mps kept their seats. She is using corbyn as an excuse for losing her seat. She only had herself to blame. “Silly woman”
@@georgec02 'and Starmer'....YES. Starmer was very anti Brexit and made no secret of it. You can just bet that's why a lot of her constituents switched to " get Brexit done".. Boris.
How's your Tory party doing after Johnson's total lying spree;-)hahaha handing out our money to his friends 37 billion on a trac/trace and now you have your wonderful new leader Truss you must be so proud of your choice of great people hahahahahas
Blaming it entirely on Corbyn is scapegoating from the Labour party. The fundamental problem was the PLP's contempt for Brexit, and trying to overturn it by any means necessary.
Bugster987 yes indeed it went brilliantly and with Abbott lammy and thornberry firmly in their positions we can rest assured the next election will go even better 😂🤣😂🤣👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Not really, the Tories doing well and being essentially unopposed isn't good for you or me. A credible, moderate left alternative would be nice. There's a lot of problems in the UK - high rent, house prices, national infrastructure, low wages, HS2 etc etc that are only going to get worse under a right wing gov.
The sad thing is that he didn't want it. Corbyn was and has always been a left-wing Eurosceptic. He was dragged to adopt an pro-EU position by the parties centre who could threaten him with total rebellion in Parliament if he didn't comply. Corbyn's tenure demonstrates beyond doubt that the left will never achieve social change through Labour.
@MrPippinsays Oh would you just listen to yourself. You've just elected the most obvious power hungry politician that has ever been, a con man, a liar and a opportunist who was literally in the BULLINGDON CLUB. You think allotment corbyn was some power hungry career politician? He's been a backbencher his whole life. Labour lost its voters because of cambridge analytica style meddling and false information. You will find out soon how much we've all been conned. Farage, Trump, Banks, Johnson will all be found out for the frauds they are.
@@Thatsme849 it's a statement of fact that Cambridge analytica helped spread false information during the brexit campaign for leave.eu, and quite obvious given the amount of disinformation from both the Conservatives and media outlets reaching people on such a scale that it has happened once again. Is it not? This isn't conspiracy its common knowledge.
@@Thatsme849 Admit my statement is a bit hyperbolic but just seeing people try and make the case that Corbyn is some power hungry politician is just so ridiculous it needs to be countered. A quick study into his political career would tell anyone that regardless of whether you like him or not.
by screaming "they will not divide us" while doing things that would not only divide the country but undermine its democratic vote... yeah I don't understand either. Although physically putting us as close as possible to each other while mentally dividing us as much as possible seems to be the common goal of far-left parties (past and current) so I'm not surprised
The trouble is, there are an arrogant few who think they know better than their constituents or, feel its their job to do what THEY think is right not represent the majorities view.
@@leechowning2712 Not quite right, in the old days politicians came from the same background if you like of the people they served so understood their needs. This new cadre tend to be middle class ox-bridge types who are furthering their own agendas and careers. They care nothing about the working man and his needs.
@@jackkruese9929 There is more than one way to run an economy, and the current capitalist system isn't exactly benefiting the majority of people, is it? Let's give something else a try.
Think Labour’s support of Pakistani Jihadis too had a saying. Seems majority of British Indian voted for the Conservatives. Wishing all the best to Boris Johnson and team from India.
For a UK government to look to one section of an illegal immigrant population to bolster it opposition to another is quite the most preposterous thing I've heard in a while. Presumably if a similar situation had arisen in the 19th Century it would have been acceptable for the Indian people to request help of English protestants to defend them from Irish Catholics. Post war immigration policy is so illegal its not even worth debating. Its been an unmitigated catastrophe for the British people and the sooner it is fully reversed the better. I look forward to the day when we have an immigration policy that is in the control of the only people with the proper authority to sanction it, the British people themselves and no one else. Then those invited to settle can call themselves citizen and have a say in the future direction of this country and not before....whatever religious beliefs they hold.
Isochest if that doesn’t scream we are being invaded with the assistance of a supposedly national political party I don’t know what does. I accept what you’re saying and that makes the Labour Party a terrorist organisation right off the bat. Where are the police, army and security services to combat the extremely criminal activity? Absolutely nowhere. Post war immigration policy is the most illegal, criminal piece of legislation in our entire history.
Yeah. A shame considering British Indians usually vote labour. Corbyn sacrificed Labour's Indian and Jewish base for Pakistani votes, quite foolish as the math doesn't add up.
That isn't Labour, that's the marxist momentum party, whose leader is the Stone-Age union baron, Comrade McCluski. Nothing to do with Labour. That's why their "party" got put out of credible existence by the normal people of England, Scotland and Wales. It's an irrelevant anachronism.
Here is the problem: Labour in 2017: We will respect and honour the referendum results. Labour in 2019: We will negotiate a new deal with the EU and will *call a another referendum*
it's not just brexit though is it, it's capitalism, it's over exaggerated political correctness, preservation of traditional culture - the majority have had enough of the garbage. It's just labour supporters and millenial celebrities can't quench their thirst for moral bigotry.
So Labour not wanting to harm UK population by going for hard brexit was an misteke. Heh I will wait then, go on. We'll see this massive gain for UK after brexit. How the lives of Brits will be better. How much independent this country will be on the international stage. And EU nationals, can always move to other countries as a part of free movement. Would this harm UK economy? Would massive workforce gain be good for the rest of EU? It's all can be disputed, but again I said let's wait, and lesson will be learn. Or even worse, not.
@@randomshorts739This is not my country, I had nothing to lose in this election. But you look like a child with this comment. Which represent level of education in UK. That's sad.
th eproblem, is the white working class get everything they know spoon fed to them by the fucking tabloids. The 1% have successfully brainwashed the working class into voting for Brexit, and no, even voting for a totally dishonest, millionare Etonian Aristocrat to represent their best interests!!! A siezable portion of this country is becoming totally delusional.
You , literally , NEVER learn do you but PLEASE CONTINUE with this overview. We were too stupid initially to understand the complexities and significance of Brexit. We compounded that a couple of years ago and also in The European Elections and now for the FOURTH TIME We STILL don't enjoy the superior wisdom , intelligence and knowledge that some Labour voters AND EVERY ONE of the Remain voters possess......I doth my cap to thee O Solomon....
@Fatty Tee frankly I think its time we had our own little french revolution, lynch the lot (tories, labour, the greens and the queen(s)) and rebuild society from the ground up.
@@joshp4582 Right. And who would rebuild society? How would we rebuild society? What should we rebuild it into? How do we prevent the same things happening again? How do we ensure that we don't make it worse? Who would be at the forefront of this? Who would be willing to join this society? What opposition would it face? What are the risks of destroying society and rebuilding it? How do we maintain security during the interlude of rebuilding society and destroying it? How do we keep back foreign powers from interfering? How do we get the French to revolt in our country in the first place?
@Fatty Tee No, seriously though. how did you manage to forget about the offshore bank accounts.. it bears repeating because its such an absurd thing for anyone willing to defend the royal trash to overlook.
Neil Laverick it’s a bit extreme to call it Communism don’t you think. If Corbyn did win, this country wouldn’t be like Russia or North Korea. Calling Labour Communist is too far.
@@sakhawatrahman4961 They corrupt the minds of youths. They accuse the Conservative as racists we get racists from all walks of life as we know. Always get bad people regardless of ethnically. Priti Patel is of Indian origin and has apposed immigration laws I don't particularly agree with I agree the security needs to be ready but the fact that they get a points based system should be lowered a bit. We simply need to keep everyone fed. We simply need to keep the growing United Kingdoms population fed.
It is not really about policy. The British are becoming evil and lack the courtesy to listen to anything more three words of what they want to hear, I e "get Brexit done". This is how fascist regimes get started.
@@nicholasroberts6441 no we dont and we never feared them in the first place, when the troubles were ongoing it just became sorta normal. like the U.S and mass shooting, you know it happens but it's always somewhere else and to someone else, you know there is a chance it could be you but you dont fear it.
@Mike L That's true, but what I find sadder yet is that they do not grasp just how unprofessional their naked display of permanent bias is. It seems likely that the media's obvious bias contributes to viewers' resentment of Left elites -- thereby magnifying the electoral losses of the media's preferred party.
@Mike L Your glorious right wing fascist future awaits, huh? Truth is societies swing through on decade timescales from left to right and liberal-conserbvative ... and back again Mostly though when we go through extreme rightwing-conservative swings it usually ends up in misery - i.e. war and famine. Brexiteers always make me smile in thinking they have somehow got on up on elites. Their leaders in all this are Boris Johnson, Gove, Ress-Mogg , Farage...etc. All of them ol cosy ol' boys network ... all privately educated, Etonian , bankers ...etc privelged lives who have continued to make a very nice fat cat life for themselves whilst stepping on and screwing the masses. Leaving the EU allows your new elite masters to set agenda and turn screws even more. These are the very people who gave rise to zero hour contracts with no benefits, no paid leave. All this victory means is this just rolls out to eevryone. You have been duped and taken for a ride if you think you have got one over on the elites. They just got one over on you mate! Boris Johnson coming out saying 'we are the servants' is just part o fteh schtick thatthe gullible believe
@@Avital4414 Orwell, as he aged, had nothing but contempt for the socialists who could afford to be socialists, its easy to advocate socialism whilst taking Maslov's big three for granted....
Yea it's a mixture of Ignorance & Arrogance. Good riddance Steptoe, nobody wants you. Watch now for the ex DPP guy shoving Steptoe's face well out of the way, I wouldn't trust either of them with a five pound note.
@Louis Frost Labour has been taken over by Momentum who are left of Socialism, Momentum don't have the guts to stand as Momentum they have infiltrated was was a great party.
They refused to respect the result of the Brexit referendum so not democratic at all. Jeremy has compassion for the poor which I admire, but you need a strong economy to help people out of poverty. Borders are also essential to protect the people of the UK. If there is unfettered immigration then the poor in particular will suffer because it means less resources for them. There should be quotas for immigration with the needs of the people of this country being put first, especially the poor and working class.
Ginger T Jeremy is a millionaire. He has never worked a day in his life. He offered a manifesto that in his own words was “radical”. He offered no assurances of any substance that the manifesto was credible, that the risks of a “radical” manifesto were minimised for working people. It came off as well off London people telling working class people to take a risk they could afford but the working class couldn’t.
Yeah, but Modi (Indian PM) will demand we let his people in as condition for a trade deal. India is a fast growing economy and we will have to accept whatever Modi imposes on us.
100%, immigration was basically the only issue in this and in Brexit. The rest is all fluff. People feel their identity is under threat. The irony is mass immigration will continue under the tories just not from Europe
Two words: OPEN BORDERS! I have no problem with controlled immigration, but completely open borders would damage the working class far more than a supposed "hard" Brexit ever could! That's without mentioning labours spending plans that would sink the UK into serious debt and in turn more severe austerity measures! If labour want to survive this embarrassing defeat they need to back away from their far left stance and move back towards the centre left!
@Gary Johnston Immigration isn't ever going to be "stopped". So make a choice. A balance between EU and non EU immigration like the statistics show during the 21sy century, or very very low EU immigration and very high non EU immigration.
He didn't ignore them his party membership did. Labour said they'd honour the ref in 2017 and did well in the election as a result. Since then he was dragged back to the middle by remainers in his party which put him at odds with labour's electoral base so they lost and lost big in 2019. Anything else is just fluff, Brexit was the central issue. A big simple dumb slogan for simple dumb people beats a nuanced position that is easily framed as dithering by your opponent will win every time.
@@TheColossalBlanket Simple dumb issues are what is needed in elections. It was his STUPIDITY in giving up to those Remainers who were most visible in London on all the television cameras. He didn't stick by the world outside of the bubble and he kept calling himself a man of the people! Absurd.
Well, considering the mounting evidence of right wing vote rigging and coercion within the labour party, and who became party leader, its pretty clear that Kier Stammer is what went wrong for Jeremy Corbyn. When you put all the pieces together, its pretty damning.
Kev Chambers its that here. Blue labour to tories isn't a big emotional jump for people. I can't believe they can not work out it was that ha. Xxxx or they can and ain't saying that. Either way it's not this. People didn't see much difference between them.
Manufacturing is barely 10% of the economy, construction about 2%, taxi drivers and lorries now less than 0.5%, etc. The "working-class" is vastly lower than people make out.
@@g4kfjve7kfj34 did you see her campaign ing at all? I didn't, even her own party hid her away because she is a liability. By the way I voted labor and I am gutted.
@@eastlondon666 a whole generation has forgottem Margarte Thacther,, and the extreme right policies , well stanby Doncaster ,Bolsover you aint seen noght yet
@@g4kfjve7kfj34 she sold everything we had to pay her debts. Things have still to come home to roost. You only have to speak to people and they can't afford a mortgage and they in debt up to their eyeballs.
@@Jellygamer0 except the documents that did an examination of the party's antisemitic behaviour. I've seen interviews with labour voters that said "yeah jews are fine" and then are told about the examination and then say "well the jews probably have done something against it.
What happened? I’ll tell you what happened: Corbyn, Abbott, Thornberry, Starmer etc that’s what happened 😁 what’s really worrying is that some people still voted for that lot, mad truly mad the lot of them 🤪
yeah their shadow cabinet is quite something on the lunacy never had a real job scale! yet still millions seem to vote for it even in their recent electoral battering! very strange!
If the labour party had been as faithful to their so called democratic principles as they're always banging on about, if the right of the party hadn't continually undermined him, it the media hadn't jumped on the bandwagon with the anti Semitic bs, if they had a credible Brexit strategy like staying in the customs union (and explaining to the hard of thinking what that would mean) Then Corbyn might have stood a chance.
ye, that mustve been it. all the news, channels, and newspapers all ganged up on corbyn. had nothing to do with him being inept and his party ignoring voters. its ALL down to the newspapers and tv.
He was arrogant, living in a Westminster bubble, letting down his own Labour supporters by ignoring them. He's paid the price, but still doesn't 'get it' This was about DEMOCRACY, he thought he knew better.
@Alvida Hamesha Well your not a very good judge of character then, are you. . You are rude, and uneducated, a typical Corbyn worshipper. You have no idea who I am, yet you throw insults at me because I don't agree with you. FYI I have been homeless, so unlike you I know what I'm talking about. You are brainwashed to the point of still being in denial. Why do you think his own labour supporters voted against him. Every single labour government has left the country in debt. How do you think that would help the homeless?? Your old news, so like I said suck it up. You lost.
@Alvida Hamesha I think you need therapy for your anger issues and projection. To insult and make assumptions towards someone you don't even know is a sickness. You make it very clear with your hate and bitterness that you are disgusted with our democracy while reaping the benefits of living in it. So perhaps you should bog off to a sandpit and play with the sand eh.
To be fair he adopted the democratically selected labour conference stance on brexit against his own conviction. It was the blairites who where pushing remain. The demise of labour is hidden by the blairite strategy of assuming the support of the working class whilst pursuing metropolitan support. The voice of the working class was therefore shut down. Labour, to survive, needs to abandon all blairites.
ltmund Ok, but ultimately Corbyn acted as Party leader. He could’ve said I don’t care about what our party conference says on Brexit. And honestly he should have. The case for remain was a case that Corbyn was never going to win after the referendum of 2016. Corbyn also wanted to expand rights for E.U. nationals living in the UK, which is weird coming from a supposed eurosceptic.
@@BluePlanet1 agreed. But to hear the party members who voted for the stance on brexit now blame the loss on Corbyn sums them up. Professional politicians who only care for their career. They have no place in the labour party
When they did well in the 2017 election they should have cut a deal with May or just let their MPs from Leave districts vote for May's deal, which was awfully close to the deal Corbyn proposed to negotiate - free trade with the EU without free movement. Instead, they put party above country for the sake of denying May a win, and Corbyn put personal political ambition above either.
I’m glad it has all worked out in the end. The biggest shock of the election is Corbyn is still the leader. No doubt he will want to try to make sure another communist carry’s on with his fight.
Ironically a win for May in those circumstances on brexit would have undoubtedly would have led to a split within the conservative party, a fight with Lawson and their defeat in the next election. Corbyn's best chance against the conservatives was to get a weak version of Brexit passed, watch the right draw daggers on each other, and face a weak candidate (May) in an election. Everything he (Corbyn) did in retrospect was tactically wrong. I suspect that they thought Boris Johnson was unelectable nationally and that running against him, they could not lose.
@@GlennLeinster better than if we were in the EU. the EU is threatening to punish italy for voting for the right-wing party of that nation, with ursula von-de-vampire saying that 'we have tools' to deal with it. theyre gonna sanction them, just like they sanctioned hungary.
Not really bojo isn't offering Brexit, his deal as Farage says repeatedly "isn't Brexit." Bojo is a total con man he has fooled the people into thinking that a leave in name only deal is Brexit
Its more than just Brexit. Its the way the Labour party have run the country in the past and how they plan to run it in the future. They plan to run Britain into the ground.
@@unabashed26 the media is overwhelmingly left wing, the BBC has gender and diversity (racist and sexist) quotas.... enough said. And calling channel 4 impartial Shows the delusion of the left wingers like yourself. Deluded Even now.
sliperysid Ridiculous comment! Have you looked at the print media lately? It’s not unreasonable is it for Channel 4 to examine why voters have voted against their best interests?
@@barbra7562 Dear Barbara, one feels you've got the wrong end of the stick. Channel 4 doing a review about Labour's failure does not make it have a conservative bias. Any organisation that pushes political correctness, inclusiveness and diversity is left wing.
Brexit was one of a few reasons. Corbyn, Identity politics - abusing and accusing the VERY PEOPLE they wanted to vote for them. Unbelievably arrogant morons.
Still the Tories only give money to their friends and it was all to do with Brexit, how's your Brexit going;-) hahahahahaha Trust in truss hahahahahahaha
@@davidpearn2484 just keep thinking that way, stay deluded, vote for a momentum backed way left of centre leader, endorsed by the membership.... And remain in the wilderness. Alternatively listen to Wes Streeting's acceptance speech in Ilford North, and act on it. ruclips.net/video/s5B2LbFShmk/видео.html
@Yul Hubbart the level of denial is astonishing. So in your view it was every one of the ex-labour MPs and nothing to do with the leadership or their narrative ?
Burgon really looks heartbroken, poor sod, still he gets his pay and expenses, about time we got rid of some of the 650 MP's, and 700 of the House of Lords on £300 a day each, all paid for by you and I.
@@okhoney1232 the problem is labour www.google.com/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-candidate-apologises-for-gassed-tweet-about-israel-a4296226.html%3famp
@@okhoney1232 who tampered with peterborough? Labour have more connections to election rigging than Tories do... A majority of the North voted leave... Corbyn pissed on the lot of us northerners who voted leave... many were Labour voters too
I doubt it wasn’t a vote against Brexit, the common muck mob thinks Brexit is brilliant. It’s like letting kids run across a busy road just because they want to for no good reason.
It all went wrong because of the establishment. They poisoned his campaign. Jeremy was the greatest PM that this never had. And now we are paying for it
callyharley but they have brains which Corbyn and the abbopotamus do not, I knew lammy when he was a junior minister, he was dull as ditchwater and had trouble finding the loo
Ahhh what a shame... just when we thought we were gonna get absolutely everything for free forever for everyone. The hard workers in this country said No.
Let Channel 4 also learn its own lessons from this election results. Stop being fashionably left. Respect what the common people think and feel - or else you will rapidly become irrelevant.
This election was won primarily on the Bannon style alt-right psychological warfare tactics that have infiltrated politics globally over the last seven years. The evidence is that Theresa May didn't adopt them in her campaign, and Corbyn did brilliantly, Boris emulated them, had been for meetings with Steve Bannon and was on board with his galvanising of the far right and fascism globally. Leave Uk used the tactics for the Brexit referendum and the EU elections, and of course they were used effectively to win Trump his presidency. It is nothing short of criminal and abuse as far as I'm concerned not just towards corbyn, but also to all of us as a nation, effectively gas lighting the nation, and they vilified and smeared him in ways that was wrong on every level. Yes, this election was fought on brexit, a referendum also won using these tactics. It is all connected. Corbyn never once sunk to their level. We have lost a decent and principled man. From garage to bannon to trump to arron banks to Boris, they should all be put on trial
Labour wasn't working for the people, labour was just about corbyns ideologies, nothing to do with the people, thank God this new labour is not running the country, Diane abbott went canvassing in odd those on, that really tells you something folks
@@lepen4652 well funny how Dianes constituency voted her in with a landslide (as did Corbyn's) the people who had real life experience with her, not the force fed opinions from the sun and Steve bannon etc. No amount of bullying and abuse could stop the people that know her from seeing the truth. and running people down is all the likes of you have.(ever thought you've been conned)
They should be audited and perhaps the eu payoffs and ngo payoffs from globalists like soros would be revealed. The labour politicians and American Democrats represent foreign companies and bureaucracies versus their own people.
The sea of Palestinian flags at Labour Party conferences. Since when did Labour, which was formed for the interests of the British working class suddenly become the UK political wing for Palestine?
Hello and GDP by purchasing parity, the UK is only the 26th richest country, lagging behind most industrialised countries.... Got to love the inequalities!
“What went wrong?” asks the channel 4, purely apolitical and unbiased interviewer regarding the Labour loss. And the sombre tones. They may as well be all in black and come right out and admit they’re in mourning. Objective journalism at its finest. 🤦♀️
Simples, Ignoring democracy, communism, identity politics, calling huge chunks of the electorate stupid and momentum
Bring on Farage post brexit to form a Capitalist Democrat Party and another far right winger to form a Neoliberal Nationalist party post brexit to split the 35% to 45% (depending on the turnout) seemingly permanent tory vote in general elections.
Ch 4 kicked in the bollox - GREAT
Not to mention his fan club of glorified far left hipsters who hijacked the membership and pulled Labour away from its Centre Left Social Democratic Trade Union roots
Union democrat maybe a good way
@@dvidclapperton Well, you predicted that
I'll tell you where it went wrong. Not listening to the electorate.
That's spot on
Becoming a socialist party.
@@Robert-cu9bm they've always been socialist, now they're communist.
@@frazerspence4331 don't be a moron. Does nationalising the railways sound like a good idea? instead of those profits going to Europe? how about protecting the NHS? good idea? these are sensible ideas for creating a more equal society....communism or your thin grasp of political science is a political label to muddy those waters and get the turkeys voting for xmas. People like you need to get a political education so you can stop repeating right wing bullshit
@@paulbattenbough1002 Telling people they're ignorant hasn't worked for the past 4 years. Clearly Labor voters are very smart, just not good with basic psychology?
2017 - Labour promised to honour the result of the EU Referendum.
2019 - Labour had no position on Brexit beyond holding a second EU Referendum.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out where Labour went wrong.
Such a waste of space and disappointment Jeremy Corbyn🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
It wasn't their position on Brexit it was because they were being run by a Commie.
cameron burke london mind set
Of course is about labour dont respecting the britsh vote
Most people voted for remain-supporting parties in the last election.
Crackpotty Corbyn was a Brexiter for years, but all of a sudden that didn’t fit with his followers so he did a complete U turn! Utterly disgraceful!
Labour no longer represents what I believe. Their swing towards the extreme left sickens me.
Yes, the fact he's worth 4-5 million quid
Yes I agree and their wrong, but Labour would prefer to spent more time discussing trans gender issues than the homeless
Me too mate. I used to be a diehard socialist until the student mob and the other middle class self righteous nutters took over
Hopefully you end up sick and without NHS
@@PhilK112 Their [the student mob's] socialism, I presume wasn't as ideologically pure as your own?
I’m sure referring to each other as “comrades” didn’t go down to well. Was embarrassing to witness and endure. Thank god it’s over
@Henry Discipline she matches Abbott for gaffs, her nickname is Rebecca Wrong Daily.
Everybody here who deplores Labour for their leftist stand just fell into sloganeering traps. Conservatives like Ian Duncan-Smith who authored the austerity bill are the real culprits here as well as Bullingdon club members like Boris Johnson and David Cameron. The elitist calls everybody left of them leftist. That's how far gone they are.
and yet they say ''that's not real socialism'' and the Soviet Union was nothing to do with what we intend'' etc etc then in their offices you see Che Guvera posters/ hammer and sickle iconography/ and they call each other ''the Comrade'' you cite! so their relation to communism is similar to when they say ''Corbyn doesn't support terrorists! yeah ok billy bullshit!
@brinna66 You know more and more American replies to British issues confirm that there is an American digital disinformation farm influencing the political climate in the UK. We don't say bullshit here.
@@oldschoolcockneylover8138 You're just a pretender posing as a UK citizen but really you're from America. Hardly anybody say "bullshit" in the UK. Yet your username says "England expects"??? What are you really saying in your reply. It's incoherent.
Before watching: "Let's see if they understand the reasons why Labour lost".
After watching: "Nope".
Australian Labor lost the unloseable election in May and still haven't figured it out. Similar thing. Completely lost touch with reality.
LOL 😂👍👏
Austerity, austerity, austerity, blah, blah, blah, sometimes i think Labour keep their districts poor to blame the Tories.
Bubble party in Alice in wonderland
LOL, they never learn.
Labour's disdain for the working classes began under Blair and was compounded when Brown called a constituent "a bigoted woman" because of her concerns over the levels of immigration.
Blair won elections.
Centrists win elections, that's been proven by Asquith, Attlee, Blair.
@@Relugus The British people are conservative by nature and do not like extremes.
Just wait, Corbyn's own party will turn on him.
It all started in Rotherham.
People know exactly what went on there whith the labour council
Labour just turned their backs on the real white working class people they are the party of the immigrants.
Blair was ok , brown was a brownose.
Whats wrong with labour🤔 Corbyn, Starmer, Dodds, Abbot, Bailey, Nandy there is a good start.
Corbyn - radical left, starmer - didn’t jail pedophiles, Dodds - did nothing, abbots - can’t count, Bailey - female version of corbyn, nandy - did nothing
Its almost as if none of it ever mattered to me and you in the first place.
@@infernonigh0 it clearly mattered to the public, enjoy being broke
and Thornberry
@@georgewright9914 You don't know the first thing about me or my finances. Pipe down now there's a good boy.
The only one who voted labour wouldn't even go on camera classic
Makes you wonder if Channel 4 - hardly a name synonymous with truthful reporting - did actually find ANYONE who voted Labour.
Probably out of fear of what Momentum activists would do to them.
How,s your Brexit going;-)hahahahahaha
It all went wrong when blue checks on twitter thought that twitter is a reflection of reality, many of these blue checkmarks work at CH4.
J Bagger excellent analysis!
Exactly 😂😂😂😂
Capitalist Pig or when stupid people believed the Daily Mail. I will not be affected by the Tories one bit. I’m gonna watch with glee how people who voted Tory will get screwed by them. I love it!
@@alexmood6407 You lack compassion.
@alex mood why so salty my boy, don’t worry, if you get a leader who isn’t a commie then you may have a chance in 10 years or so. Hard luck buddy.
Its simple in 2017 Labour said we will honour the referendum result, we will support leaving the EU then once MPs got elected they blocked a deal, blocked no deal and wouldn't allow an election until they run out of excuses. Now in 2019 they say trust us, vote for us what did they think would happen?.
ancietman
This is hardly an argument, if I list all the things the other idiot promised and had 9 years to deliver, and still hasn't and yet people elected him, perhaps you've all collectively suffer from the Stockholm syndrome.
The reason he was not elected is because he was accused of anti-Semitism that's what favoured the other side. (This is of course if we're to believe that the vote was genuine)
I don't believe that the people had a say in this at all, I know they elect who they want, when they want, if they want. And this is why I have never voted in my entire life and I will not vote for as long as I live.
@ Samuel Barry
You say you don't vote... THEN YOU HAVE NO SAY !! END OF.
... But let's approach this as if you are or seem to be a Labour sympathizer.
Labour's own MP's have denounced Corbyn. So they are wrong... everybody is The majority of the people have Stockholm Syndrome. Or the vote was fake/false/rigged. Delusional...although you do sound like many of the MP's and their comments of late.
Good grief even many of your own MP's have denounced Corbyn, and a former front Bencher ( until very recently) has said he was a very poor communicator to his own MP's, in that he wasn't a talker.
So everybody who voted, or rather who didn't vote Labour were wrong? Then the comments after the fact including your own MP's and party members are wrong? That's what you are saying?
Today is the first time I have ever heard him answer any question DIRECTLY about anti Semitism in the Labour ranks.
He said he had put into place something to deal with anti-Semitism and yet he still didn't apologise for all the wrongs etc. that had occurred.
He's the Leader it IS his job to take responsibility.
His comments today, …. but for tactical voting he/Labour would have gained a few seats...HIS WORDS!! Not how many of Labour's Redwall were lost!! Delusional.
He has obviously got it wrong ( yeah I know you think everyone else has and not him) and still wants to hang around to mull over the loss. Let me remind you.. the MAJORITY voted him out. Let's see him try to NOT honour that! Oh this time he can do nothing about it.
Rigged vote HA HA HA .That's beyond delusional... certainly helps your argument, doesn't it? Errr , nope!!
Wonder what it would take for the number of seats to reach 326 to be rigged so Corbyn would lose?
Thousands of people sworn to secrecy, never ever to mention they have been bought off. Those counting the voting slips to 'miscount' or 'lose' the votes or to put a massive number in the Con's column?Media would not see anything? The people interviewed before and after … all paid to say it's because of Corbyn... how did the rigging work? You seem to think it is /was possible... please explain how this massive gap in numbers of seats was managed?
ABSOLUTELY DELUSIONAL. Hmm strange thing is you are the only person I have seen anywhere who claims rigging is a possibility.
@@alwaysflat7996 Exactly which planet do you live on these days?
@@alwaysflat7996 You really think all those working class in the north voting against their traditional party in favour of their long term rivals the Tories because of 'anti-antisemitism'.. You really are clueless fool haha.
How's your Brexit going;-)hahahahahahaha
I feel sorry for Caroline Flint.
A decent and honorable MP, lost her seat because of Corbyn and Starmer.
And those arseholes kept theirs.
She was a huge loss! she should have been leader.
Caroline Flint is a p*ick who has no one to blame but herself. Hundreds of other Labour mps kept their seats. She is using corbyn as an excuse for losing her seat. She only had herself to blame. “Silly woman”
‘And Starmer’ ???????
@@georgec02 'and Starmer'....YES.
Starmer was very anti Brexit and made no secret of it.
You can just bet that's why a lot of her constituents switched to
" get Brexit done".. Boris.
she was the only person that could have led the party. She actually wanted to honour the result of the referendum
I’ll tell you why labour got stuffed at the polls Corbyn, Abbott, mc donnell !!!! Nuf said
A'te corbyn,
A'te abbot (not racial, just don't like er)
A'te MC Donald's
Luv brexit
Luv boris
Luv me shazza
Simple as
They should have been renamed the lavatory party for a more catchy title!
Emily Thornbury disagrees
And offering us "free broadband". They really think we are so cheap we will vote for whoever gives us free stuff.
How's your Tory party doing after Johnson's total lying spree;-)hahaha handing out our money to his friends 37 billion on a trac/trace and now you have your wonderful new leader Truss you must be so proud of your choice of great people hahahahahas
Blaming it entirely on Corbyn is scapegoating from the Labour party. The fundamental problem was the PLP's contempt for Brexit, and trying to overturn it by any means necessary.
“Where did it all go wrong?”
I think it went quite ok thanks. More of the same.
@Budster-1000 upticks, although total destruction would have been better.
Bugster987 yes indeed it went brilliantly and with Abbott lammy and thornberry firmly in their positions we can rest assured the next election will go even better 😂🤣😂🤣👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@@kaycamille1544 .
Ha! Exactly!
Not really, the Tories doing well and being essentially unopposed isn't good for you or me. A credible, moderate left alternative would be nice. There's a lot of problems in the UK - high rent, house prices, national infrastructure, low wages, HS2 etc etc that are only going to get worse under a right wing gov.
It went wrong when he wanted to push on us what HE wanted.not listening to what WE want.
So true, and he paid for that...he lost a lot of faithful Labour voters
Well put
Who tf is 'we'? The rich upper class snobs?
The sad thing is that he didn't want it. Corbyn was and has always been a left-wing Eurosceptic. He was dragged to adopt an pro-EU position by the parties centre who could threaten him with total rebellion in Parliament if he didn't comply. Corbyn's tenure demonstrates beyond doubt that the left will never achieve social change through Labour.
Tories did a great job of listening to you didn't they?
It is striking to me the sad faces on these "un-biased journalists".
Donley P'Simer BBC and Channel 4 are the biggest culprits bias . Look at them now
Okay let's not pretend as if corbin had the backing of the media. The smears were comparable in terms of quantity as those against trump.
@@fhffvgju6299 lets not pretend Channel 4 hasnt been a Labour party political broadcast for all of 2019...
It wasn’t the papers but Corbyn they hated .
The democratic voice of the people was Leave. What right had Jeremy and Ms Swindon plot to revoke this decision? They pay the price.
Helena Gordon actually it’s the tax payers that lose out.
*They were lied to*
@@rich0373 yes, we were lied to Rich.
40 odd years ago and we've lived with that lie since then.
Burgon seemed more concerned at losing colleagues than voters! Astonishing.
My thoughts exactly. Losing the voters didn't seem to bother him at all.
@MrPippinsays Oh would you just listen to yourself. You've just elected the most obvious power hungry politician that has ever been, a con man, a liar and a opportunist who was literally in the BULLINGDON CLUB. You think allotment corbyn was some power hungry career politician? He's been a backbencher his whole life. Labour lost its voters because of cambridge analytica style meddling and false information. You will find out soon how much we've all been conned. Farage, Trump, Banks, Johnson will all be found out for the frauds they are.
Revolutionary Stewart this is a new level of saltiness and denial I hadn’t encountered before haha
@@Thatsme849 it's a statement of fact that Cambridge analytica helped spread false information during the brexit campaign for leave.eu, and quite obvious given the amount of disinformation from both the Conservatives and media outlets reaching people on such a scale that it has happened once again.
Is it not? This isn't conspiracy its common knowledge.
@@Thatsme849 Admit my statement is a bit hyperbolic but just seeing people try and make the case that Corbyn is some power hungry politician is just so ridiculous it needs to be countered. A quick study into his political career would tell anyone that regardless of whether you like him or not.
"We tried to bring people together..." Huh?! How?! By not listening or having any answers for them?
by screaming "they will not divide us" while doing things that would not only divide the country but undermine its democratic vote... yeah I don't understand either. Although physically putting us as close as possible to each other while mentally dividing us as much as possible seems to be the common goal of far-left parties (past and current) so I'm not surprised
This will be by screaming "......IST !!!!" and "........PHOBIA !!!!!" at people who dare question their rantings I suppose ?
Such ballshit
Being a neo-nazi isn't bringing people toghther...
How's your listening Tories doing hahahahahahaha
@@GlennLeinster Still better than the morons currently populating the Labour Party...
Politicians need to learn to listen to the wishes of the constituents they purport to represent.
Give them lots of money they will.
The trouble is, there are an arrogant few who think they know better than their constituents or, feel its their job to do what THEY think is right not represent the majorities view.
Worldwide, this has been a problem. The government has forgotten to listen.
@@walden6272 cash is king,,
@@leechowning2712 Not quite right, in the old days politicians came from the same background if you like of the people they served so understood their needs.
This new cadre tend to be middle class ox-bridge types who are furthering their own agendas and careers. They care nothing about the working man and his needs.
When he choose Socialist over the health of the country.
You know the NHS is a socialist institution right?
@@ConorDoesItAll So what?
What an odd comment. Socialists care for the health of everyone in the country, not just the wealthy few.
Socialism would bankrupt the Uk
@@jackkruese9929 There is more than one way to run an economy, and the current capitalist system isn't exactly benefiting the majority of people, is it? Let's give something else a try.
Think Labour’s support of Pakistani Jihadis too had a saying. Seems majority of British Indian voted for the Conservatives. Wishing all the best to Boris Johnson and team from India.
Labour is that party of terrorists, anti-semites and anti Brexit. Is there any wonder they lost by landslide
For a UK government to look to one section of an illegal immigrant population to bolster it opposition to another is quite the most preposterous thing I've heard in a while.
Presumably if a similar situation had arisen in the 19th Century it would have been acceptable for the Indian people to request help of English protestants to defend them from Irish Catholics.
Post war immigration policy is so illegal its not even worth debating. Its been an unmitigated catastrophe for the British people and the sooner it is fully reversed the better. I look forward to the day when we have an immigration policy that is in the control of the only people with the proper authority to sanction it, the British people themselves and no one else. Then those invited to settle can call themselves citizen and have a say in the future direction of this country and not before....whatever religious beliefs they hold.
That's one area they fell in. A lot of people see Labour as an Islamist party
Isochest if that doesn’t scream we are being invaded with the assistance of a supposedly national political party I don’t know what does.
I accept what you’re saying and that makes the Labour Party a terrorist organisation right off the bat.
Where are the police, army and security services to combat the extremely criminal activity? Absolutely nowhere.
Post war immigration policy is the most illegal, criminal piece of legislation in our entire history.
Yeah. A shame considering British Indians usually vote labour. Corbyn sacrificed Labour's Indian and Jewish base for Pakistani votes, quite foolish as the math doesn't add up.
I'd rather live in Russia than in the UK with Corbyn as PM
See ya
by by;-)
Pls no fking go pls
If he was pm in right now would you still go to russia
Sheer indifference. Treat the voters like fools. Demand everyone conform to their way of thinking. That is Labour.
It's staggering isn't it. Every interview I've seen/heard since the result is the same.
It's staggering isn't it. Every interview I've seen/heard since the result is the same.
Corbyn's way of thinking in 2017 was skewed by the blairites leading to loss and party time for the unfaithful tory plants.
That isn't Labour, that's the marxist momentum party, whose leader is the Stone-Age union baron, Comrade McCluski. Nothing to do with Labour. That's why their "party" got put out of credible existence by the normal people of England, Scotland and Wales. It's an irrelevant anachronism.
You seem like a fool who thinks there's a difference between the socialist party and the socialist party
Here is the problem:
Labour in 2017: We will respect and honour the referendum results.
Labour in 2019: We will negotiate a new deal with the EU and will *call a another referendum*
it's not just brexit though is it, it's capitalism, it's over exaggerated political correctness, preservation of traditional culture - the majority have had enough of the garbage. It's just labour supporters and millenial celebrities can't quench their thirst for moral bigotry.
@@MrGioGio122 *oof!*
So Labour not wanting to harm UK population by going for hard brexit was an misteke. Heh I will wait then, go on. We'll see this massive gain for UK after brexit. How the lives of Brits will be better. How much independent this country will be on the international stage. And EU nationals, can always move to other countries as a part of free movement. Would this harm UK economy? Would massive workforce gain be good for the rest of EU? It's all can be disputed, but again I said let's wait, and lesson will be learn. Or even worse, not.
Rafal Z 😭😭😭go cry loser
@@randomshorts739This is not my country, I had nothing to lose in this election. But you look like a child with this comment. Which represent level of education in UK. That's sad.
"I'm proud to represent the people of Islington North." Hmm. Pity you didn't represent the heartlands, Jezza.
Jezza: "I'm proud to represent only the people of Islington North, and some woke uni students in Canterbury'
Was anyone holding a gun against your heads, vote tory or else
How's your Brexit going;-)hahahahahahaha
So how has May, Boris, Truss and Sunak benefited the heartlands? How's thing at the food bank?
"Where did it all go wrong for Jeremy Corbyn?" Probably the day he was born!
Hahahaha
😆😆😆
😂
EXACTLY
How's your Brexit going;-)hahahahahaha
labour has now realised they still need white working class.
th eproblem, is the white working class get everything they know spoon fed to them by the fucking tabloids.
The 1% have successfully brainwashed the working class into voting for Brexit, and no, even voting for a totally dishonest, millionare Etonian Aristocrat to represent their best interests!!!
A siezable portion of this country is becoming totally delusional.
MaxSafeheaD Calling them thick, that’s probably why they didn’t vote for you
You , literally , NEVER learn do you but PLEASE CONTINUE with this overview.
We were too stupid initially to understand the complexities and significance of Brexit. We compounded that a couple of years ago and also in The European Elections and now for the FOURTH TIME We STILL don't enjoy the superior wisdom , intelligence and knowledge that some Labour voters AND EVERY ONE of the Remain voters possess......I doth my cap to thee O Solomon....
@@MaxSafeheaD we can't all be clever like you.
what about black
When old labour voters vote for Boris than labour then you know something is definitely wrong.
@Fatty Tee frankly I think its time we had our own little french revolution, lynch the lot (tories, labour, the greens and the queen(s)) and rebuild society from the ground up.
@@joshp4582 Right. And who would rebuild society? How would we rebuild society? What should we rebuild it into? How do we prevent the same things happening again? How do we ensure that we don't make it worse? Who would be at the forefront of this? Who would be willing to join this society? What opposition would it face? What are the risks of destroying society and rebuilding it? How do we maintain security during the interlude of rebuilding society and destroying it? How do we keep back foreign powers from interfering? How do we get the French to revolt in our country in the first place?
@Fatty Tee No, seriously though. how did you manage to forget about the offshore bank accounts.. it bears repeating because its such an absurd thing for anyone willing to defend the royal trash to overlook.
@Fatty Tee you are completely and hopelessly brainwashed and I truly pity your existence, hope you realise you've been duped one day.
Tories are now the party of the working class. Wow, if you`d told me that 50 years ago, i`d called you crazy.
Ha ha, that Labour guy still has no idea.
I don't blame him for his stupidity...
@@Julien-bt7fd yeah, being deluded is a mental illness.
@@bluesans1787
Left-wing liberals are crowned with stupidity.
The ivory tower has no windows to look into reality.
He never did.
Send him this: NEO-NAZISEM ISN'T GOING TO DO ANY GOOD TO YOU, STOP BEING ONE.
Carolyne Flint was a great MP and a sensible person, I am sad she lost her seat !!!!
Yes I would rather she had kept her seat instead of that left wing drama queen Alison Mc Govern from the Wirral
Agreed. One of the old school of Labour MPs I used to vote for until these ist and phobic shrieking creeps took over.
@Henry Discipline Trouble is this clown has gone [Corbyn], only to bring on stage another [BoJo] - one couldn't make it up !!!!
Erm, the people dont want communism maybe.
Neil Laverick it’s a bit extreme to call it Communism don’t you think. If Corbyn did win, this country wouldn’t be like Russia or North Korea. Calling Labour Communist is too far.
@@sakhawatrahman4961
They corrupt the minds of youths. They accuse the Conservative as racists we get racists from all walks of life as we know. Always get bad people regardless of ethnically. Priti Patel is of Indian origin and has apposed immigration laws I don't particularly agree with I agree the security needs to be ready but the fact that they get a points based system should be lowered a bit. We simply need to keep everyone fed. We simply need to keep the growing United Kingdoms population fed.
Nor do they want a neo-nazi....
Merkava MK IV M there is no neo nazi what you on about?
Why does he keep saying "where we lost the votes"?
Have a coherent policy, stick to it, defend it, and if people don't approve then you'll soon know.
Maybe Boris's dog ate some of the ballots?
Democracy and leftism don't work well together. In order for it to work it has to be done by force.
@Andrzej Kruger you suffer from a virus - go see a doctor but make sure they are not Jewish or else you might catch something even worse.
It is not really about policy. The British are becoming evil and lack the courtesy to listen to anything more three words of what they want to hear, I e "get Brexit done". This is how fascist regimes get started.
@@grapeape888 No. I think that is just an excuse for justifying starvation, homelessness and hatred.
"I dont know what happened" said Corbyn over a pint with Jerry Adams.
and Diane Abbott.
"Gerry"
Or an orange juice with his friends from Hamas.
Do you fear pub bombings these days on mainland britain.
@@nicholasroberts6441 no we dont and we never feared them in the first place, when the troubles were ongoing it just became sorta normal. like the U.S and mass shooting, you know it happens but it's always somewhere else and to someone else, you know there is a chance it could be you but you dont fear it.
It seems Corbyn's red wall took the same beating as Hillary's blue wall.
And the Berlin wall too
@@sumvs5992 oof, good one XD
How's your Brexit gonig;-)hahahahaqhaha
@@GlennLeinster what a childish way to refer to a genuine economic disaster which is negatively affected so many working class people the worst
The pain on these reporters' faces is as delicious as a chocolate cherry cake.
@Mike L That's true, but what I find sadder yet is that they do not grasp just how unprofessional their naked display of permanent bias is. It seems likely that the media's obvious bias contributes to viewers' resentment of Left elites -- thereby magnifying the electoral losses of the media's preferred party.
BBC one and Channel 4 are the worst biased corrupt culprits look at them now!!!!?
@Mike L Very important observation. It's amusing to see the Left cite Orwell; his ideas diagnose the modern Left to a 'T.'
@Mike L Your glorious right wing fascist future awaits, huh?
Truth is societies swing through on decade timescales from left to right and liberal-conserbvative ... and back again
Mostly though when we go through extreme rightwing-conservative swings it usually ends up in misery - i.e. war and famine.
Brexiteers always make me smile in thinking they have somehow got on up on elites. Their leaders in all this are Boris Johnson, Gove, Ress-Mogg , Farage...etc. All of them ol cosy ol' boys network ... all privately educated, Etonian , bankers ...etc privelged lives who have continued to make a very nice fat cat life for themselves whilst stepping on and screwing the masses. Leaving the EU allows your new elite masters to set agenda and turn screws even more. These are the very people who gave rise to zero hour contracts with no benefits, no paid leave. All this victory means is this just rolls out to eevryone. You have been duped and taken for a ride if you think you have got one over on the elites. They just got one over on you mate!
Boris Johnson coming out saying 'we are the servants' is just part o fteh schtick thatthe gullible believe
@@Avital4414 Orwell, as he aged, had nothing but contempt for the socialists who could afford to be socialists, its easy to advocate socialism whilst taking Maslov's big three for granted....
They still have their blinkers on, incredible
They a simply in denial.
Yea it's a mixture of Ignorance & Arrogance. Good riddance Steptoe, nobody wants you. Watch now for the ex DPP guy shoving Steptoe's face well out of the way, I wouldn't trust either of them with a five pound note.
@Louis Frost Labour has been taken over by Momentum who are left of Socialism, Momentum don't have the guts to stand as Momentum they have infiltrated was was a great party.
They refused to respect the result of the Brexit referendum so not democratic at all. Jeremy has compassion for the poor which I admire, but you need a strong economy to help people out of poverty. Borders are also essential to protect the people of the UK. If there is unfettered immigration then the poor in particular will suffer because it means less resources for them. There should be quotas for immigration with the needs of the people of this country being put first, especially the poor and working class.
Ginger T Jeremy is a millionaire. He has never worked a day in his life. He offered a manifesto that in his own words was “radical”. He offered no assurances of any substance that the manifesto was credible, that the risks of a “radical” manifesto were minimised for working people. It came off as well off London people telling working class people to take a risk they could afford but the working class couldn’t.
Yeah, but Modi (Indian PM) will demand we let his people in as condition for a trade deal.
India is a fast growing economy and we will have to accept whatever Modi imposes on us.
Well said.
@@Relugus Not if Boris is a good negotiator.
100%, immigration was basically the only issue in this and in Brexit. The rest is all fluff. People feel their identity is under threat. The irony is mass immigration will continue under the tories just not from Europe
Maybe if labor supported working people instead of importing migrants, they would be more popular. Just a thought...
The answer to this question is ultimately ............... Incompetence.
On too much factors....
Like... being a neo nazi....
How's your Brexit going;-) hahahahahaha
Two words: OPEN BORDERS! I have no problem with controlled immigration, but completely open borders would damage the working class far more than a supposed "hard" Brexit ever could!
That's without mentioning labours spending plans that would sink the UK into serious debt and in turn more severe austerity measures!
If labour want to survive this embarrassing defeat they need to back away from their far left stance and move back towards the centre left!
Most immigration is non EU and that is rising. Brexit isn't going to do zilch and you will be moaning for the next 100byears anyway
@Gary Johnston Immigration isn't ever going to be "stopped".
So make a choice. A balance between EU and non EU immigration like the statistics show during the 21sy century, or very very low EU immigration and very high non EU immigration.
Corbyn blew it by living in the London bubble and ignoring the one thing 7/10 Labour constituencies voted for in 2017- Brexit!!
He didn't ignore them his party membership did. Labour said they'd honour the ref in 2017 and did well in the election as a result. Since then he was dragged back to the middle by remainers in his party which put him at odds with labour's electoral base so they lost and lost big in 2019. Anything else is just fluff, Brexit was the central issue. A big simple dumb slogan for simple dumb people beats a nuanced position that is easily framed as dithering by your opponent will win every time.
@@TheColossalBlanket Simple dumb issues are what is needed in elections. It was his STUPIDITY in giving up to those Remainers who were most visible in London on all the television cameras. He didn't stick by the world outside of the bubble and he kept calling himself a man of the people! Absurd.
Well, considering the mounting evidence of right wing vote rigging and coercion within the labour party, and who became party leader, its pretty clear that Kier Stammer is what went wrong for Jeremy Corbyn. When you put all the pieces together, its pretty damning.
When they became new labour and turned their backs on the working class
Kev Chambers its that here. Blue labour to tories isn't a big emotional jump for people. I can't believe they can not work out it was that ha. Xxxx or they can and ain't saying that. Either way it's not this. People didn't see much difference between them.
I don’t like Tory either but they are the lesser of two evils
Manufacturing is barely 10% of the economy, construction about 2%, taxi drivers and lorries now less than 0.5%, etc. The "working-class" is vastly lower than people make out.
It went wrong because they thought Brits are fools.
They actually are fools
@@lucius1976 Well, that's your opinion and I won't dispute with you. However, they do have consequence.
No, just 45.7%.
Conservatives didn't win Labour shot itself in the head
If you can't understand why you lost you are obviously too stupid to govern
I wish Labour all the feminist, politically correct, inclusive, progressive, diverse and social justice equality they deserve.
And I also wish they would sink into a bottomless morass
How's your Brexit going;-)hahahahaha
@@GlennLeinster I voted remain.
@@jean-pascalheynemand3271 So did I
Turned their backs on the real working class in exchange for middle class students who rage over Identity politics.
Well said
How's your Brexit going;-)hahahahahaha
I hear Corbyn's having humble pie for Christmas dinner (vegan recipe of course!).
Yeah but only with 5 others this time, no surprise he failed to count poll votes properly, probably got confused when he got to 8.
How's your Brexit going;-) hahahahahahaha
Jeremy Corbyn WAS what went wrong with Labour!
How's your Johnson doing!!!! oh yeah you replaced him with Truss good work you you're on the ball thanks for all your help;-) hahahahahahaha
"...continue the cause of socialism..." whilst he and his front bench all enjoy their 6-figure salaries and their million pound London homes.
@Henry Discipline and you bunch of moaners voted for them ??!! take your own inventory first !! YOU are responsible !!!
The average wage in the UK is £30,000. Jeremy Corbyn was campaigning for a top wage of 10x the average, ie £300,000. Your point is redundant.
Corbyn, Brexit and the political equivalent of "get woke go broke".
Well put!!
"Get sabotaged by your party now its going broke" actually
How's your Brexit going;-)hahahahahaha
The guy in the Carmen Miranda hat would be a better PM than Corbyn.
You limeys. I thought that was Corbyn as I heard he was a joker. So who is the old fossil in the front?
It wasn't just corbyn, Diane Abbott as home secretary! , I found that more scary than anything.
WHY?
@@g4kfjve7kfj34 did you see her campaign ing at all? I didn't, even her own party hid her away because she is a liability. By the way I voted labor and I am gutted.
@@eastlondon666 a whole generation has forgottem Margarte Thacther,, and the extreme right policies , well stanby Doncaster ,Bolsover you aint seen noght yet
@@g4kfjve7kfj34 she sold everything we had to pay her debts. Things have still to come home to roost. You only have to speak to people and they can't afford a mortgage and they in debt up to their eyeballs.
Careful they'll label you a racist
Not a single comment on Corbyn’s rabid antisemitism!
Because he isn't one...
The jewish community are the cause of the defeat. They were disloyal
Thats Channel 4 these days
@@Jellygamer0 except the documents that did an examination of the party's antisemitic behaviour. I've seen interviews with labour voters that said "yeah jews are fine" and then are told about the examination and then say "well the jews probably have done something against it.
@@etgood6154 and here's the proof
What happened? I’ll tell you what happened: Corbyn, Abbott, Thornberry, Starmer etc that’s what happened 😁 what’s really worrying is that some people still voted for that lot, mad truly mad the lot of them 🤪
yeah their shadow cabinet is quite something on the lunacy never had a real job scale! yet still millions seem to vote for it even in their recent electoral battering! very strange!
Johnson, Raab, Gove, Truss, Hancock, Williamson, need I go on?
@chris jones still happy comparing them?
If the labour party had been as faithful to their so called democratic principles as they're always banging on about, if the right of the party hadn't continually undermined him, it the media hadn't jumped on the bandwagon with the anti Semitic bs, if they had a credible Brexit strategy like staying in the customs union (and explaining to the hard of thinking what that would mean)
Then Corbyn might have stood a chance.
How's your Brexit going;-)hahahahahahas
C4N bias towards labour certainly didn’t help
ye, that mustve been it. all the news, channels, and newspapers all ganged up on corbyn. had nothing to do with him being inept and his party ignoring voters. its ALL down to the newspapers and tv.
He was arrogant, living in a Westminster bubble, letting down his own Labour supporters by ignoring them. He's paid the price, but still doesn't 'get it' This was about DEMOCRACY, he thought he knew better.
He sees himself as superior to us mere regular working people
@Jake Haynes He was their Leader, he should have led. The buck stops with him.
@Alvida Hamesha You say rubbish to me, did you know him personally ?? I think not. Anyway you lost, suck it up.
@Alvida Hamesha Well your not a very good judge of character then, are you. . You are rude, and uneducated, a typical Corbyn worshipper. You have no idea who I am, yet you throw insults at me because I don't agree with you. FYI I have been homeless, so unlike you I know what I'm talking about. You are brainwashed to the point of still being in denial. Why do you think his own labour supporters voted against him. Every single labour government has left the country in debt. How do you think that would help the homeless?? Your old news, so like I said suck it up. You lost.
@Alvida Hamesha I think you need therapy for your anger issues and projection. To insult and make assumptions towards someone you don't even know is a sickness. You make it very clear with your hate and bitterness that you are disgusted with our democracy while reaping the benefits of living in it. So perhaps you should bog off to a sandpit and play with the sand eh.
Well they won't be singing "Oh Jeremy Corbyn!" any more, will they?
Glorious!
Slurping Ticklepest Maybe ‘Go’ Jeremy Corbyn ... 🤣
@Yul Hubbart Gold
Under Blair the Labour party started to desert the working man . In December 2019 the working man deserted Labour . Karma .
Which totally defeats your argument, Corbyn was the opposite of Blair, that is why the establishment needed him out and demonised him
I respect Caroline Flint and like her. She is a true democrat and a conservative (small c intended) at heart
Small c conservatives are people with nothing to say or stand for. Small minded.
That is the reason I stop voting for Labour all thanks to Jeremy Corbyn
Jeremy Corbyn you're not representing anyone, your problem is you don't listen that's the reason for me not voting for Labour because of you
@@rufusstewart762 Better that than ranting "ist" and phobia" at the very people you need to get elected
How could he expect people to vote for him when he refused to take a definite stand on the central issue of the election?
To be fair he adopted the democratically selected labour conference stance on brexit against his own conviction. It was the blairites who where pushing remain. The demise of labour is hidden by the blairite strategy of assuming the support of the working class whilst pursuing metropolitan support.
The voice of the working class was therefore shut down. Labour, to survive, needs to abandon all blairites.
ltmund Ok, but ultimately Corbyn acted as Party leader. He could’ve said I don’t care about what our party conference says on Brexit. And honestly he should have. The case for remain was a case that Corbyn was never going to win after the referendum of 2016. Corbyn also wanted to expand rights for E.U. nationals living in the UK, which is weird coming from a supposed eurosceptic.
@@BluePlanet1 agreed. But to hear the party members who voted for the stance on brexit now blame the loss on Corbyn sums them up. Professional politicians who only care for their career. They have no place in the labour party
He refused to take a stand on ANYTHING - at all. Spineless.
puirYorick Corbyn is a political mouse, one of the three blind mice
When they did well in the 2017 election they should have cut a deal with May or just let their MPs from Leave districts vote for May's deal, which was awfully close to the deal Corbyn proposed to negotiate - free trade with the EU without free movement. Instead, they put party above country for the sake of denying May a win, and Corbyn put personal political ambition above either.
Spot on!
I’m glad it has all worked out in the end.
The biggest shock of the election is Corbyn is still the leader. No doubt he will want to try to make sure another communist carry’s on with his fight.
Ironically a win for May in those circumstances on brexit would have undoubtedly would have led to a split within the conservative party, a fight with Lawson and their defeat in the next election. Corbyn's best chance against the conservatives was to get a weak version of Brexit passed, watch the right draw daggers on each other, and face a weak candidate (May) in an election.
Everything he (Corbyn) did in retrospect was tactically wrong. I suspect that they thought Boris Johnson was unelectable nationally and that running against him, they could not lose.
Correct
How's your Brexit going;-) hahahahahaha
"our position was the correct position" biggest loss since the 30s and theyre still blind.
How's your Brexit going;-) hahahahaha
@@GlennLeinster better than if we were in the EU. the EU is threatening to punish italy for voting for the right-wing party of that nation, with ursula von-de-vampire saying that 'we have tools' to deal with it. theyre gonna sanction them, just like they sanctioned hungary.
"" we need to work out what went wrong""
Seventeen and a half million people could tell you how you got it wrong.
Keir Starmer is your guilty man.
Jeremy Corbin did not ever represent what I would call a labour politician I've had respect for past labour leaders even though I've always voted tory
Not really bojo isn't offering Brexit, his deal as Farage says repeatedly "isn't Brexit."
Bojo is a total con man he has fooled the people into thinking that a leave in name only deal is Brexit
Its more than just Brexit. Its the way the Labour party have run the country in the past and how they plan to run it in the future. They plan to run Britain into the ground.
Amongst others ... About half a million members of the labour party
What did he do wrong?
Surprised they aren't wearing black armbands on CH4.
If corbyn had one they'd have donned red ones.
Considering the great swathes of print media and televised media that support the conservatives, you can’t begrudge a sliver of partiality.
@@unabashed26 the media is overwhelmingly left wing, the BBC has gender and diversity (racist and sexist) quotas.... enough said. And calling channel 4 impartial Shows the delusion of the left wingers like yourself. Deluded Even now.
sliperysid Ridiculous comment! Have you looked at the print media lately? It’s not unreasonable is it for Channel 4 to examine why voters have voted against their best interests?
@@barbra7562 Dear Barbara, one feels you've got the wrong end of the stick. Channel 4 doing a review about Labour's failure does not make it have a conservative bias. Any organisation that pushes political correctness, inclusiveness and diversity is left wing.
A simple clue where it went wrong Corbyn, 17.4 million people.
Bye-bye Great Britain , hello England ,,,, sad
17.4 million arseholes - a proctologist’s dreamland!
Are fucking pricks should all be shot
@@Slow_Horse Good riddance to an anti-Semitic Hamas sympathizer.
@@s1050 I'm having fish & chips later save some of those salty tears I'll grab the vinegar... bell end.
People saw through their 'no way of paying for it' policies. Brexit wasn't the reason.
Brexit was one of a few reasons. Corbyn, Identity politics - abusing and accusing the VERY PEOPLE they wanted to vote for them. Unbelievably arrogant morons.
Oh, and then they found all this money that we didn't have
Still the Tories only give money to their friends and it was all to do with Brexit, how's your Brexit going;-) hahahahahaha Trust in truss hahahahahahaha
She's just salty she lost her job, she should've tried harder to get people to see a bigger picture beyond Brexit
Martin bodger, just thinking the same 100 %
@@davidpearn2484 just keep thinking that way, stay deluded, vote for a momentum backed way left of centre leader, endorsed by the membership....
And remain in the wilderness.
Alternatively listen to Wes Streeting's acceptance speech in Ilford North, and act on it.
ruclips.net/video/s5B2LbFShmk/видео.html
Martin Bodger ...stop calling them racist and idiots that would be a start.
@Yul Hubbart the level of denial is astonishing.
So in your view it was every one of the ex-labour MPs and nothing to do with the leadership or their narrative ?
@Yul Hubbart ruclips.net/video/s5B2LbFShmk/видео.html
Where did it all go wrong for Channel 4 more like.
And the EU has injured itself by fanning the flames of Remain and that's a fact
@@flaviuscarp what does any of that even mean?
Is it a fact? The EU has been pretty consistent on its position since we first triggered Article 50 in 2016.
@@danstylus1 It means he's living in Egypt's biggest river lols
You will come crawling in 8 years or so and you are gonna have to take the euro with that.
But enjoy for now! xD
Burgon really looks heartbroken, poor sod, still he gets his pay and expenses, about time we got rid of some of the 650 MP's, and 700 of the House of Lords on £300 a day each, all paid for by you and I.
And we’ll be paying for Nigel Farrage’s EU pension until the end of his life.
How's your Johnson doing oh yeah he's gone now you have your wonderful Truss well done you you must be heartbroken;-) hahahahahaha
He lost to a guy who hid in a fridge . Corbyn has to go
Avoiding the biased press isn't hiding let's face it didn't work BORIS WON BIG TIME YEEEEEEEEEEEES 🙋 BREXIT
The problem is Boris, not Jeremy. I refuse to accept that most of the population voted for this disgrace, the results must've been tampered.
@@okhoney1232 the problem is labour www.google.com/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-candidate-apologises-for-gassed-tweet-about-israel-a4296226.html%3famp
@@okhoney1232 who tampered with peterborough? Labour have more connections to election rigging than Tories do... A majority of the North voted leave... Corbyn pissed on the lot of us northerners who voted leave... many were Labour voters too
@@okhoney1232 grow up
This is a vote against socialism as much as a vote against Brexit
You haven't a clue if you think that labour were advocating full blown socialism.
I doubt it wasn’t a vote against Brexit, the common muck mob thinks Brexit is brilliant. It’s like letting kids run across a busy road just because they want to for no good reason.
@@robertpirsig5011 "For the many, not the few" right...
That's simply not true.
Well, I surely voted against socialism this time.
*Voting for Labour was such an obvious decision, that they lost.*
It all went wrong because of the establishment. They poisoned his campaign. Jeremy was the greatest PM that this never had. And now we are paying for it
Corbyn, david Lammy, dianne Abbott, Jess Phillips enough said !
callyharley sociopaths.
Such unlikeable people.
C K how right you are
C K so true
callyharley but they have brains which Corbyn and the abbopotamus do not, I knew lammy when he was a junior minister, he was dull as ditchwater and had trouble finding the loo
So desperate to get into power that they would say anything. And ended up saying everything. Caused huge confusion and the people didn’t fall for it.
Ahhh what a shame... just when we thought we were gonna get absolutely everything for free forever for everyone.
The hard workers in this country said No.
UTTER PIFFLE
Hard workers determined to shaft themselves
Hmmmm…….
Labour simply refuse to discuss the elephant in the room: immigration.
Labour should have honoured the vote of the people by leaving the EU!
Labour should have left the EU? LoL!
@fenrif *WHOOOOSH*
@fenrif No. What happened is you didn't read the o/p properly. ;-)
Labour lost in 2010/2017/2019 how much f,,king reflexion do they need
Let Channel 4 also learn its own lessons from this election results. Stop being fashionably left. Respect what the common people think and feel - or else you will rapidly become irrelevant.
One year on just seen his and Jeremy Corbyn still doesn't know why he and his team lost the election. While Almost everyone else does.
They still blame the msm , they can't accept it's a middle class party now
3 years on, how are the tories doing? 🤔
2:50: "We will forever continue the cause for Socialism" Wow. At least this guy is honest and open about his Marxism.
Yup. And now we know who to not vote for. Love from the U.S.A!♥️
theres a difference between socialism and marxism numb nut
What went wrong...Labour ignored the 148 Labour leave voting constituencies
In a nutshell.
Great, let them have their precious Brexit then. Hope the plebs enjoy dying on the streets 😂
This election was won primarily on the Bannon style alt-right psychological warfare tactics that have infiltrated politics globally over the last seven years. The evidence is that Theresa May didn't adopt them in her campaign, and Corbyn did brilliantly, Boris emulated them, had been for meetings with Steve Bannon and was on board with his galvanising of the far right and fascism globally. Leave Uk used the tactics for the Brexit referendum and the EU elections, and of course they were used effectively to win Trump his presidency. It is nothing short of criminal and abuse as far as I'm concerned not just towards corbyn, but also to all of us as a nation, effectively gas lighting the nation, and they vilified and smeared him in ways that was wrong on every level. Yes, this election was fought on brexit, a referendum also won using these tactics. It is all connected. Corbyn never once sunk to their level. We have lost a decent and principled man. From garage to bannon to trump to arron banks to Boris, they should all be put on trial
Labour wasn't working for the people, labour was just about corbyns ideologies, nothing to do with the people, thank God this new labour is not running the country, Diane abbott went canvassing in odd those on, that really tells you something folks
@@lepen4652 well funny how Dianes constituency voted her in with a landslide (as did Corbyn's) the people who
had real life experience with her, not the force fed opinions from the sun and Steve bannon etc. No amount of bullying and abuse could stop the people that know her from seeing the truth. and running people down is all the likes of you have.(ever thought you've been conned)
😂😂😂 I love watching these crying Labour supporters !!
Up the Tories!!!💙🇬🇧
Well done you voted for armed forces cuts, Billions in foreign aid and NHS, infrstructure cuts well done
It’s just delicious to see ain't it
@@Robertsmith001 wanker
They should be audited and perhaps the eu payoffs and ngo payoffs from globalists like soros would be revealed. The labour politicians and American Democrats represent foreign companies and bureaucracies versus their own people.
The sea of Palestinian flags at Labour Party conferences. Since when did Labour, which was formed for the interests of the British working class suddenly become the UK political wing for Palestine?
That guy was talking like he’d just learnt the word “analyse”
I'm just waiting for the lefts call of the wild "The Russians, The Russians"
Lol, the Russians probably wanted Corbyn
thats a liberal thing leftists do not care about russia
With continued Tory austerity, much of the UK will start to resemble Russia.... wealthy plutocrats and a hungry populace.
Hello and GDP by purchasing parity, the UK is only the 26th richest country, lagging behind most industrialised countries....
Got to love the inequalities!
Yep, it won't be long before it starts.
Jeremy Corbyn. That's where it went wrong. The end.
How's your Brexit going;-) hahahahaha
The Labour party destroyed the Labour party. Corbyn was the scapegoat.
The Blairites
“What went wrong?” asks the channel 4, purely apolitical and unbiased interviewer regarding the Labour loss. And the sombre tones. They may as well be all in black and come right out and admit they’re in mourning. Objective journalism at its finest. 🤦♀️
‘’Where did it all go wrong for Corbyn?’’ Does anyone with a brain really have to ask this question?
😂👌
ronald fitzsimmons Corhasbyn
wow saying he carried more about his colleagues that what people want.
Wanting communism? Hating the working class? Wanting a second referendum? What else do you need to know?
Tony Blair was the beginning of the end of Labour Party
The left: How did we lose?
Also the left: I find 'Baby it's cold outside' PrObLeMaTiC
Psssst, you forgot that corbyn is a neo-nazi.....
Yes Johnson will feel the cold after been BOOTED out of number ten by his own party.
Who cares, we got rid of him and drained some of the swamp, now for the rest
There is nothing wrong with being a nationalist love of country and pride in UK 🇬🇧 is a beautiful thing well done 👍