The TOEIC (Test of English for International Communications) that RM talks about at the end is an English proficiency exam. 990 is a perfect score. The average in South Korea is 675; worldwide the average is 500. Anything over 900 is the highest proficiency level in professional English. When RM was 15, he scored 850 on the TOEIC. In high school, RM scored in the top 1% on the CSAT (Korea's version of the SAT in the US).
It’s tiring honestly. Why can’t we just appreciate RM on a video or post that’s about him. It’s already sad that his videos tend to get less views and then the comments 😒
Odio cuando siempre tratan de minimizar a RM y hacen comentarios pasivo/agresivos donde dicen " ay si, RM es muy inteligente pero no puede cocinar ni conducir pero lo amo" . Siempre haciendo más relevante sus errores que sus grandes logros y habilidades. Además nunca faltan los comentarios donde sacan a relucir a los demás integrantes comparándolos. Es tan frustrante.
@@ot5621I don't think you understand. You can admire someone's perfections but it's their faults and perfections together makes them so loveable. Total perfection is distancing, its not human. The reason so many people love RM so much is that combination of how wonderfully admirable he is but so utterly human. People and parents who will never admit the person they love have faults don't really love them. They only love a fake image they create. It burdens the people they say they love, who feel they will no longer be loved if they fall off the pedestal. Real love is there for you when you fall, in your weakest moments, someone who sees the reality but believes in your ability to climb back up, again and again.
@anitaherbert1037 Beautifully said ❤ I don't like pretending that they're perfect because they are human and RM showing and expressing his faults are one of the things I love and enjoy about him as an artist. I was just referring to situations when sometimes a little praise can just be praise. There doesn't always have to be a BUT or a punchline. We could simply let him get his little shine when he alreadly doesn't get it. Perhaps I'm too sensitive but every platform not only is it hard to find joon content but when I do it's comments making fun of his past, hair, clumsiness etc which can be harmless ofcourse. I know there are fans who speak in regards to what you are reffereing to and that I can understand. Seeing him as human, it's those that see him less than human I can't seem to grasp.
Namjoon is so smart but he is not perfect either and I love it. Jin once said to Jimin.."Namjoon is so smart but also so clumsy and destructive. When he cooks, it's not the food that burns but the frying pan.. Looking at him, I realized god is fair".
I never know why this fandom always talk about other members or diss joon whenever the video is about him like if this was a vidoe of any other member the comments will be filled with praises .,..
Jimin is the math wizard. He was the math substitute teacher for his teachers. He was a straight a student all through school and was class president 9 years in a row. Namjoon has an IQ of 148 and is pretty much a a genius in everything except cooking and cleaning.
Of course here comes the jabs at namjoon. I didn't know how to cook at first either but I took the time out and learned, anyone at anytime can learn how to cook. And the cleaning part seriously? You must not have seen the times he's shown his house, it looks pretty well maintained.
I thought this was an RM video. And RM is what I would also consider a math wizard. You can see that if you watched when he was on the show Problematic Men
Thanks for the namjoon love ❤ the comment section, Fans can't seem to not bring up his clumsiness or driving etc. Perhaps it's funny because it's shows he's human or an intresting contrast but I never see this happen with others. why can't we just be happy he's getting love when he already gets so little? I know this is a pointless statement cuz we're 11 years into this but it's still sad.
Totalmente de acuerdo contigo. Es lamentable que precisamente las "fans" siguen haciendo más relevante su torpeza que sus grandes habilidades y destrezas
Namjoon is wise, visionary, a master lyricist, introspective, self-effacing, courageous and stands up for his convictions. At such a young age, he had to learn to navigate a largely monopolised and power hungry SK music industry where the odds were against his label and his team. Maybe because of the tenacity and ferocious fire inside youthful artists like him & BTS plus the faith Bang Shihyuk had in him & his brothers, Namjoon led BTS through numerous tough trials as they overcame the odds against them. He protected his BTS brothers against hurtful and negative social media comments translating malicious English ones into positive comments for his brothers. He consulted a professor on gender studies regarding his lyrics to make sure they were respectful towards women after the backlash with their song War of Hormones. He did not make any excuses and vowed to learn from his mistakes. Namjoon always encourages each member and praises them so effusively. He had to carry a heavy burden since the very beginning from pre-debut to debut and 11 years since and he did so with much grace and dignity to the point where he felt overwhelmed, lonely, lost and at times shackled. I don't know many musicians at such a young age who have reached incredible heights in their career and managed to stay grounded, so very caring of their fans, their team and not cave in to the extreme pressure. Namjoon is a very special person. He is extraordinary.
a balcony its in the side of the building, usually outside a window. a patio y a front or a backyard. and a terrace is in the roof top. i dont know if i write it right, my inglish its not the best
That, I knew and thank you for letting Nesto know. I am wondering what’s the difference between a Verranda that Suga said in the IKEA Run BTS and a Terrace? Do you know? 💜
@@Ween4ever The word veranda meaning "long balcony or terrace." Extending along the outside of a building, this architectural structure has a roof and usually opens up to the outside.
RM is literally "a genius". He has an IQ of 148. Albert Einstein and Steven Hawking possessed IQs of 160 or higher. There are varying degrees of genius, with scores ranging from 130 to over 200. RM is a bad ass!
No Matter what anyone say in the comments RM IS THE SMARTEST! he has the highest iq between the boys , he was on of top 1,3% students in his country, he is called the wizard of songwriting and composing ,,, he plays piano , saxophone, and guitar,he was on basketball and skiing teams , his poetry won awards in middle school, he's also the best in English and Math STOP TRYING TO DISCRIMINATE HIM
You’re at 27k!!!! Also, this might be the way RM calculated 125 x 7 in his head (it’s the way I did it at least): 100 x 7 = 700, 4 x 25 = 100, 3 x 25 = 75, 700 + 100 + 75 = 875 💜💜💜💜
Patio: an area, usually paved, adjoining a house and used as an area for outdoor lounging, dining, etc. Balcony: a balustraded or railed elevated platform, can be inside or outside. (Think Juliette on the balcony musing about Romeo.)
Your emotional intelligence quotient is off the charts and you’re hella funny. A win-win. About that shark thing, um … never mind 🫢, but I recommend you avoid swimming in ANY salt water. 😏✌🏼💜
Hey Lonely Dad, 86 years old ARMY Grandma checking in to tell you I love you just the way you are, You bring much joy to me with your ONE TALENT 🤣🤣 of video reacting to BTS. I look forward to seeing something from you every day, As Jimin would say "'NICE, KEEP GOING" 🤣🤣💜💜🤣🤣💜💜. . BORAHAE !!!!!!!
Tbh I don't feel like this vid did him justice but u can definitely tell tht he is a genius when u analyse his lyrics or pay attention to him when he talks u shd def check out another vid!
RM is a genius but very clumsy. Love that about him 😁. I love watching run bts with all of these challenges, we get to watch them and learn about bits and pieces of how they are outside of their performances as BTS 😊💜💜💜
Awww you’re not lonely Nesto, you have ARMY. All the magnificent 7 have university degrees. They’ve worked so hard to get where they are now so hats off to them 🫰💜
Great reaction as always!! Please react to more BTS! -Every song on Jimin's new album Muse -Sope-Me (Suga and J-Hope) Otsukare @Japan Official Fan Meet Vol. 3 (English Subtitles) **They sing this in Japanese** -BTS 3RD MUSTER: House of ARMY on mellowminmin's channel! -Airplane Pt. 2 -Go Go Heart Performance for ARMY -Stigma Live performance -BTS Buzzfeed Puppy Interview -Idol Intro Performance (3J focus) @2018 MMA -Jimin's Filter Quick Change Theory by Helen Kwon -Suga Spills on His D-DAY Album on Jimmy Fallon's show -Imposter Challenge with Suga on Jimmy's show -Closer Than This -Dionysus -Take Two Live Clip -Begin live performance with English subtitles -Telepathy -If You by Jungkook -My Time Live -I Know by RM and Jungkook -HOME on Jimmy Fallon -Imposter challenge with Suga on Jimmy Fallon's show -Mikrokosmos -BTS Fix You cover -BTS Chicken Noodle Soup Live -Ddaeng (Rapline) -Ddaeng (ft. Vocal line) -BTS' Christmas Carol Medley And Run BTS episodes 39 and 41!!
Namjoon is so intelligent 🙌🏻🔥 that's hot. Also, Jimin was a really dedicated student and was pressident for so many years so yeah... He's really smart! When it comes to Yoongi, he knows a lot of random stuff and fact and also he's a musical genius when it comes to producing and he likes maths so he's really smart too. With Jin, I would say he's so intelligent when it comes to games like puzzles, scape rooms and more + he can do dad joked on the spot and most if the times those are really witty. (Taehyung is similar, he's so witty too bc he's always thinking outside the box). Hobi can learn SO fast choreis and he has a really good spacial ability. And then there's Jungkook that has the talent to do so many physical and artistic things well and improve so fast when he tries for the first time. It's crazy! All the members are really smart and have their own strengths and I think that's really cool and inspirational! (besides the fact they also decided to graduate from collage and did degrees despite having already a job, being famous and busy)
Where are you getting your info. Jin was the one who attended physical university if that’s what you mean but the members have bachelors degrees which means they graduated college. RM has graduated with a degree in Broadcasting and Entertainment Education and pursued his Masters after.
Jimin is the math wiz, he even took over for the teacher in school when he was gone. He was school class president for 9 years, don't know his iq but I think it's high also.
His IQ is up there. However, don't let him touch anything valuable! For as smart as he is, he can't figure out how NOT to break things. Which is why we - and the group - lovingly refer to him as "The God of Destruction". LOL FYI: Terrace, patio, and veranda are the same things - ground level, flat area, often set up with chairs or "outdoor couch", a table, maybe a fire pit and/or grilling area - they're just different names that came from different countries. Many use "patio" to refer to a concrete slab in which said items are set up on, while terrace and veranda are often thought of as an area with bricks. The terms can still be used interchangeably, though, and people will understand when they see it ("We have a brick patio"/"Our terrace is concrete".) A balcony is basically the same thing, but only on upper floors. Balconies just always have something around them to prevent people from falling off of them. Typically a fence. However, in some higher priced apartments (and condos, townhouses, etc.), they also have walls on both sides to give tenants some privacy from their neighbors.
@@MystiqueRisingSun his house is full of valuables and they seemed to be just fine when he gave us the tour of his home. Maybe it’s time for people to retire the whole “God of Destruction”.
@@It_is_what_it_is365 🙄 It's called a JOKE... And it's a long-standing one at that...between BTS and ARMY. 1 - *whispers* Just because one is clumsy doesn't mean they break EVERYTHING they come into contact with. 2 - As stated, even the REST of BTS call him that. 3 - That's just PART of why many ARMY love him!
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The TOEIC (Test of English for International Communications) that RM talks about at the end is an English proficiency exam. 990 is a perfect score. The average in South Korea is 675; worldwide the average is 500. Anything over 900 is the highest proficiency level in professional English.
When RM was 15, he scored 850 on the TOEIC.
In high school, RM scored in the top 1% on the CSAT (Korea's version of the SAT in the US).
I find people can't compliment RM without a diss or jab at his other traits or mentioning others. Thank you for the RM appreciation 💜
It’s tiring honestly. Why can’t we just appreciate RM on a video or post that’s about him. It’s already sad that his videos tend to get less views and then the comments 😒
Odio cuando siempre tratan de minimizar a RM y hacen comentarios pasivo/agresivos donde dicen " ay si, RM es muy inteligente pero no puede cocinar ni conducir pero lo amo" . Siempre haciendo más relevante sus errores que sus grandes logros y habilidades. Además nunca faltan los comentarios donde sacan a relucir a los demás integrantes comparándolos. Es tan frustrante.
@@ot5621I don't think you understand. You can admire someone's perfections but it's their faults and perfections together makes them so loveable. Total perfection is distancing, its not human. The reason so many people love RM so much is that combination of how wonderfully admirable he is but so utterly human. People and parents who will never admit the person they love have faults don't really love them. They only love a fake image they create. It burdens the people they say they love, who feel they will no longer be loved if they fall off the pedestal. Real love is there for you when you fall, in your weakest moments, someone who sees the reality but believes in your ability to climb back up, again and again.
@anitaherbert1037 Beautifully said ❤ I don't like pretending that they're perfect because they are human and RM showing and expressing his faults are one of the things I love and enjoy about him as an artist. I was just referring to situations when sometimes a little praise can just be praise. There doesn't always have to be a BUT or a punchline. We could simply let him get his little shine when he alreadly doesn't get it. Perhaps I'm too sensitive but every platform not only is it hard to find joon content but when I do it's comments making fun of his past, hair, clumsiness etc which can be harmless ofcourse. I know there are fans who speak in regards to what you are reffereing to and that I can understand. Seeing him as human, it's those that see him less than human I can't seem to grasp.
Namjoon is so smart but he is not perfect either and I love it.
Jin once said to Jimin.."Namjoon is so smart but also so clumsy and destructive. When he cooks, it's not the food that burns but the frying pan.. Looking at him, I realized god is fair".
We're you as relieved as me that RM was in the military band playing sax. I was worried about the god of destruction around live amo.
@@anitaherbert1037 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@anitaherbert1037 LMAO I am sure he will be extra careful
I never know why this fandom always talk about other members or diss joon whenever the video is about him like if this was a vidoe of any other member the comments will be filled with praises .,..
You are wrong, RM's sexy brain is everything. F the dimple, I'll take the sexy brain.
We need other Namjoon being smart video!!
RM's I Q 148, genius for sure. 💜 From the South in America. 🇺🇸
Jimin is the math wizard. He was the math substitute teacher for his teachers. He was a straight a student all through school and was class president 9 years in a row. Namjoon has an IQ of 148 and is pretty much a a genius in everything except cooking and cleaning.
Of course here comes the jabs at namjoon. I didn't know how to cook at first either but I took the time out and learned, anyone at anytime can learn how to cook. And the cleaning part seriously? You must not have seen the times he's shown his house, it looks pretty well maintained.
And of course on Drive cause he is so clumsy that he is afraid of trying 😂 But Joonie is perfect 💜🫰🏻
I thought this was an RM video. And RM is what I would also consider a math wizard. You can see that if you watched when he was on the show Problematic Men
Jimin wouldn't be doing what he is doing in the military without a strong knowledge of math and calculus.
@@Guillia01 actually he has an eye disorder. Very poor vision. And why does he need to drive? He's got plenty of drivers
Thanks for the namjoon love ❤ the comment section, Fans can't seem to not bring up his clumsiness or driving etc. Perhaps it's funny because it's shows he's human or an intresting contrast but I never see this happen with others. why can't we just be happy he's getting love when he already gets so little? I know this is a pointless statement cuz we're 11 years into this but it's still sad.
Totalmente de acuerdo contigo. Es lamentable que precisamente las "fans" siguen haciendo más relevante su torpeza que sus grandes habilidades y destrezas
Namjoon is wise, visionary, a master lyricist, introspective, self-effacing, courageous and stands up for his convictions. At such a young age, he had to learn to navigate a largely monopolised and power hungry SK music industry where the odds were against his label and his team. Maybe because of the tenacity and ferocious fire inside youthful artists like him & BTS plus the faith Bang Shihyuk had in him & his brothers, Namjoon led BTS through numerous tough trials as they overcame the odds against them. He protected his BTS brothers against hurtful and negative social media comments translating malicious English ones into positive comments for his brothers. He consulted a professor on gender studies regarding his lyrics to make sure they were respectful towards women after the backlash with their song War of Hormones. He did not make any excuses and vowed to learn from his mistakes.
Namjoon always encourages each member and praises them so effusively. He had to carry a heavy burden since the very beginning from pre-debut to debut and 11 years since and he did so with much grace and dignity to the point where he felt overwhelmed, lonely, lost and at times shackled. I don't know many musicians at such a young age who have reached incredible heights in their career and managed to stay grounded, so very caring of their fans, their team and not cave in to the extreme pressure. Namjoon is a very special person. He is extraordinary.
Yes he is, that's why he is our leader and our President!
balcony is on an upper floor, a patio is at ground level.
Terrace has more than one entrance/exit to it. Balcony only has one.
a balcony its in the side of the building, usually outside a window. a patio y a front or a backyard. and a terrace is in the roof top. i dont know if i write it right, my inglish its not the best
That, I knew and thank you for letting Nesto know. I am wondering what’s the difference between a Verranda that Suga said in the IKEA Run BTS and a Terrace? Do you know? 💜
@@Ween4ever The word veranda meaning "long balcony or terrace." Extending along the outside of a building, this architectural structure has a roof and usually opens up to the outside.
@@TamaraLynette thx! I don’t know why I was thinking so much about it. 😂😊💜
What is the Capital of Belgium? JIN: Waffle 😂😂😂
RM shows excitement with his whole body. Do not stand near him when he wins lol
They are all very intelligent men in their own ways.😊❤
He is genius 💜
Yes the 2019 mma is brilliant and no need to copyright it loads of reactors have done it no trouble
💜💜💜💜please RM's Joke💜💜💜
RM is literally "a genius". He has an IQ of 148. Albert Einstein and Steven Hawking possessed IQs of 160 or higher. There are varying degrees of genius, with scores ranging from 130 to over 200. RM is a bad ass!
MMM (MiniMoni Music) Part 2 is out. Jimin and RM talk about MUSE. It's really good.
As Jin once said ‘I love namjoons sexy brain’ 😂😂
No Matter what anyone say in the comments RM IS THE SMARTEST! he has the highest iq between the boys , he was on of top 1,3% students in his country, he is called the wizard of songwriting and composing ,,, he plays piano , saxophone, and guitar,he was on basketball and skiing teams , his poetry won awards in middle school, he's also the best in English and Math STOP TRYING TO DISCRIMINATE HIM
Jungkookei and V so cute 😂
Not a tickle shark. Im with you, me neither. 😂😂😂😂
You’re at 27k!!!!
Also, this might be the way RM calculated 125 x 7 in his head (it’s the way I did it at least): 100 x 7 = 700, 4 x 25 = 100, 3 x 25 = 75, 700 + 100 + 75 = 875
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Patio: an area, usually paved, adjoining a house and used as an area for outdoor lounging, dining, etc.
Balcony: a balustraded or railed elevated platform, can be inside or outside. (Think Juliette on the balcony musing about Romeo.)
Your emotional intelligence quotient is off the charts and you’re hella funny. A win-win. About that shark thing, um … never mind 🫢, but I recommend you avoid swimming in ANY salt water. 😏✌🏼💜
Hey Lonely Dad, 86 years old ARMY Grandma checking in to tell you I love you just the way you are, You bring much joy to me with your ONE TALENT 🤣🤣 of video reacting to BTS. I look forward to seeing something from you every day, As Jimin would say "'NICE, KEEP GOING" 🤣🤣💜💜🤣🤣💜💜. . BORAHAE !!!!!!!
Balcony is upstairs. Patio is ground floor interchangeable with terrace.
Jimin and Jungkook will soon have a Travel Show called "Are You Sure?", please react to "Trailer"and "Announcement(from USA) this show
Nesto, there is a video MiniMo wich is Jimin showing his album to RM.🇧🇷💜🇧🇷💜
balcony is on the second level while patio is on the ground level adjacent to the lawn
BTS is proof that God has favorites. ;)
Congrats on 30K, Nesto!🎉🎉 I know your numbers will keep rising, my friend!
Hii, this video was amaziiing
I hope you'll react to MMA 2019 or N.O
Its cool💜💜💜💜
Tbh I don't feel like this vid did him justice but u can definitely tell tht he is a genius when u analyse his lyrics or pay attention to him when he talks u shd def check out another vid!
His IQ is 149 which is high amd makes him super smart
RM is a genius but very clumsy. Love that about him 😁. I love watching run bts with all of these challenges, we get to watch them and learn about bits and pieces of how they are outside of their performances as BTS 😊💜💜💜
Fun fact.The 1 thing RM can't do is drive. He doesn't have his license.
Suga also has a high IQ.
Nesto can you react to some sugarmy computations they are really good thanks
Namjoon's IQ is 148 right? He was on a show that you have to answer questions as a game. He was the smartest of the group.
@@jiminsprincess1978 Problematic Men is the name of the show
@@It_is_what_it_is365 That's right, I completely blanked the name. 😅💜
Suchwita, suga with jungkook.
Awww you’re not lonely Nesto, you have ARMY.
All the magnificent 7 have university degrees. They’ve worked so hard to get where they are now so hats off to them 🫰💜
Great reaction as always!!
Please react to more BTS!
-Every song on Jimin's new album Muse
-Sope-Me (Suga and J-Hope) Otsukare @Japan Official Fan Meet Vol. 3
(English Subtitles) **They sing this in Japanese**
-BTS 3RD MUSTER: House of ARMY on mellowminmin's channel!
-Airplane Pt. 2
-Go Go Heart Performance for ARMY
-Stigma Live performance
-BTS Buzzfeed Puppy Interview
-Idol Intro Performance (3J focus) @2018 MMA
-Jimin's Filter Quick Change Theory by Helen Kwon
-Suga Spills on His D-DAY Album on Jimmy Fallon's show
-Imposter Challenge with Suga on Jimmy's show
-Closer Than This
-Dionysus
-Take Two Live Clip
-Begin live performance with English subtitles
-Telepathy
-If You by Jungkook
-My Time Live
-I Know by RM and Jungkook
-HOME on Jimmy Fallon
-Imposter challenge with Suga on Jimmy Fallon's show
-Mikrokosmos
-BTS Fix You cover
-BTS Chicken Noodle Soup Live
-Ddaeng (Rapline)
-Ddaeng (ft. Vocal line)
-BTS' Christmas Carol Medley
And Run BTS episodes 39 and 41!!
Namjoon is so intelligent 🙌🏻🔥 that's hot. Also, Jimin was a really dedicated student and was pressident for so many years so yeah... He's really smart!
When it comes to Yoongi, he knows a lot of random stuff and fact and also he's a musical genius when it comes to producing and he likes maths so he's really smart too. With Jin, I would say he's so intelligent when it comes to games like puzzles, scape rooms and more + he can do dad joked on the spot and most if the times those are really witty. (Taehyung is similar, he's so witty too bc he's always thinking outside the box). Hobi can learn SO fast choreis and he has a really good spacial ability. And then there's Jungkook that has the talent to do so many physical and artistic things well and improve so fast when he tries for the first time. It's crazy!
All the members are really smart and have their own strengths and I think that's really cool and inspirational!
(besides the fact they also decided to graduate from collage and did degrees despite having already a job, being famous and busy)
RM did not graduate college only Jin graduated college.
Where are you getting your info. Jin was the one who attended physical university if that’s what you mean but the members have bachelors degrees which means they graduated college. RM has graduated with a degree in Broadcasting and Entertainment Education and pursued his Masters after.
i wish they woud have explaned the test at the end. as non korean it´s hard to know how much 915 point is. is that out of 100 correct answers or what?
Please react to Jung Kook My time live stage mix (it's the complete version)
RM is very clever but Suga knows loads of random stuff. It's hilarious.
I think it's funny RM is a genius. But, doesn't DRIVE.😂
Because JK be in his own world. It must be nice there.
Watch a Guied to BTS by Taylor please
Jimin is the math wiz, he even took over for the teacher in school when he was gone. He was school class president for 9 years, don't know his iq but I think it's high also.
I have seen it is 128.😊
His IQ is up there.
However, don't let him touch anything valuable!
For as smart as he is, he can't figure out how NOT to break things. Which is why we - and the group - lovingly refer to him as "The God of Destruction". LOL
FYI:
Terrace, patio, and veranda are the same things - ground level, flat area, often set up with chairs or "outdoor couch", a table, maybe a fire pit and/or grilling area - they're just different names that came from different countries. Many use "patio" to refer to a concrete slab in which said items are set up on, while terrace and veranda are often thought of as an area with bricks. The terms can still be used interchangeably, though, and people will understand when they see it ("We have a brick patio"/"Our terrace is concrete".)
A balcony is basically the same thing, but only on upper floors. Balconies just always have something around them to prevent people from falling off of them. Typically a fence. However, in some higher priced apartments (and condos, townhouses, etc.), they also have walls on both sides to give tenants some privacy from their neighbors.
@@MystiqueRisingSun his house is full of valuables and they seemed to be just fine when he gave us the tour of his home.
Maybe it’s time for people to retire the whole “God of Destruction”.
@@It_is_what_it_is365 🙄
It's called a JOKE...
And it's a long-standing one at that...between BTS and ARMY.
1 - *whispers* Just because one is clumsy doesn't mean they break EVERYTHING they come into contact with.
2 - As stated, even the REST of BTS call him that.
3 - That's just PART of why many ARMY love him!
@@MystiqueRisingSun maybe it was funny in the beginning but after a decade it’s kind of old