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@@bonefetcherbrimley7740 Egg is probably a safe bet though. I think they did have some sort of cold food preservation like 4 meters under ground filled with ice.
magnum fumum : " I'll have Two number IXs , a number IX large, a number VI with extra dip, a number VII , two number XLVs one with cheese and a large wine "
@@Dimitri88888888 I mean, yeah not with fries, but definitely with the same energy. I remember going to an Italian restaurant and heard a guy complaining about salty pasta say "when they say the water should be as salty as the sea, they don't mean the Dead Sea" lmao.
I saw a BBC show about Pompeii where they showed the small food shops of modern Naples still have the same layout, just updated with electric facilities.
This is my favorite type of history, how people actually _lived_ , what they ate, how they partied, the day to day life of various careers / trades etc. Even the privileged ivory tower elites, to the grimy-ist pleb , battle hardened Patriots tyrants, to subversion Laden sentators bent on Rome's Fall .
I agree completely. I'm always hoping to find a video game where, instead of concentrating on warfare and ruling kingdoms, you could just play a normal person's life. A shopkeeper, trying to keep their family fed and clothed or trying to save for a house in the country. Maybe as a common soldier, trying to rise in the ranks. I like the day to day details of just trying to survive and thrive.
it's so wild how it doesn't matter how much things change, they stay the same. These aspects of daily life are basically the exact same you'd find nowadays living in a place like Sao Paulo, the only thing that changes is the garments and food choices, but even the crowded small apartments with little room for cooking are still a thing.
I could just picture my ancestor Claudius Cunninghamius's mother arguing with the cashier/cook because they where pretty much that of the time because of showing his mother attitude and getting the order wrong for the third time just like my mother except it is the cooks she argues with not the cashiers they are innocent man I am always entertain when they show her attitude. PS my mom is not a Karen she is the reverse she only argues with those that deserves it like McDonald cooks and anti maskers man they can be irritating at times.
Hearing about the foods that were considered luxuries in the past (cheese, meats, cakes etc) always makes me feel a little better about whatever meal I am making myself, because I know at the very least I am making long dead kings and emperors jealous. Max Miller right out of the blue, what a pleasant surprise in an already great video!
I think stuff like this all the time! :D like I might be an average guy but I live in unknown luxury with almost infinite knowledge at my fingertips in comparison to those in the past
@@brandynstahler5266 Well to be fair to modern people, ancient people never had to experience stuff like smog or acid rain. There's plenty of stuff that the modern person experiences on a daily basis that we don't even notice that an ancient person would go and say "how do you live like this"
They would go insane at the idea that food can be that cheap and delicious - the average person in human history, including Romans, was impoverished and spent most of their money on food. They also did not have a global supply chain that makes everyone have access to salt, spices, and exotic ingredients. I doubt they would have spit it out.
@MKULTRA It’s not just theoretical but the fact that poor peoples TODAY are often obese because of the convenience of good tasting, cheap food. They choose that because they like it and it’s affordable. It took decades of science and cultural shift for us to hate the cheap and tasty food we criticize today. A luxury that wealthy people can indulge in.
Roman Citizen 1: “Did you hear the news? Caesar has just declared a new chain of restaurants to be built alongside the forum.” Roman Citizen 2: “Veritas? What will they be?” Roman Citizen 1: “Yes. A Caledonian themed restaurant specializing in Angus beef from the highlands. It will be called, “McDonald’s”.
Brilliant cross over with tasting history ! I wanted to say mate, I love this more then a focus on military roman life. I would really love more content like this. I know it's not the most mainstream/popular, but you do it so well I'm sure it could be :D
@@InvictaHistory Oooh, one on the daily street life and traffic would be magnificent. Their system for wagon-use and transport of wares is surprisingly interesting, and to see how walking through those streets one evening would be. Started reading a bit about it while working on a paper about the Porta Esquilina, and this video about their fast food business really reminded me of that!
Yeah I love these! I feel like I know all there is to know about the Roman military, but I always learn something new in these day to day videos! Keep up the good work guys!
As a vietnamese, I'm so happy that you mention my country specifically for its streetfood. Yeah, here we have a large variety of street food that will cater to all your tastes with very affordable prices. Here we also use fish sauce extensively for flavoring and dipping and has some world-famous brand of fish sauce.
One of the changes in archaeology that I am most grateful for is the interest in the lives of the commoners and other people that are often forgotten as well as mostly 'invisible' in historical sources.
@@DarkPsychoMessiah Generally I'd say it kinda follows the archaeological theories of the processual archaeology (from around 1950s) that began the interest in the wider archaeological material and research into things relevant to the lives of 'commoners' as a way to gain greater insight into past societies as a whole, with less focus on material chronology and physical findings of impressive nature (kings tombs, treasure, monuments). Further, post-processual archaeology (from around 1980s) imo is where the common people's lives increasingly became a focus of interest in of itself and not just a means to find answers to questions (i.e. what was the scope of the Maya settlements and interconnected trade?), but the focus of the question itself (i.e. what governed the lives of the Maya people?). Museums and projects dedicated to the subject has only really been projected to a wider audience in the last 2 decades or so in my experience. But that's just my thoughts from the top of my head :]
@@MrLoobu Weird that you ignore wheat and similar grains, which are arguably more common than corn or rice in a European setting. Potatoes, sure, but corn is only really common in the Americas.
Some Restaurants in Rome have reinstated old roman food recipes and some are really tasty. some are more.. weird to our modern tastes. a must try if you ever travel there.
@@majorfallacy5926 you just have to know where to look if you have a decent amount of money go to the more upper class restraunt areas I never went I am just guessing.
roman bread and pastries would be really different from what we expect today-milk, butter, and eggs were very expensive in the city, so i can’t imagine your local popina would have much besides the standard roman loaves. another interesting fact-because of the small living quarters for the majority of the population, rome had communal ovens where people would go to bake their bread! (source: i’m a classics student and have studied this)
@@shastasilverchairsg as far as i’m aware, the ovens and the flour for bread were provided by the state within the city of rome. it was a measure to keep the lower classes from revolting
most modern pastries contain nothing else but wheat, salt, sugar and water and of course artificial emulsifiers that didn't exist back then and that make us sick and the biggest difference yet: gluten nowadays is 70% of the wheat protein but it used to be less than 4% so the texture of bread was completely different and didn't make people gluten intolerant.
- Man, Julivs, I've heard the Souvlaki at Alexander's Palace is fantastic, we should dine there next time we go to the Pomerium. *- Yes, Antoninvs. But you see, he was only 23 and already had a restaurant of his own, shall I ever accomplish such feat at this advanced age and I shall deserve a place under his shadow*
Another enjoyable piece of time tourism. The major events are essential learning but they don't really give much indication about what life was really like for the average Roman dude.. It's inevitable that most of us history nerds will end up with questions about daily life and they're usually the hardest to answer.. So I very much appreciate these well researched insights through the murky window of time. Please keep it up. Thanks.
"Yes, this is 'Olivia's Olivetum'. I'm Olivia. And by the looks of it, you are another time traveler who wants to joke about 'HaViNg BeeN aT OlIvE GarDeN BuT In OlD RomE LoL' when you're back to your time. Doesn't mean you can cut the line. Move along, some people have been waiting for years."
People don't realize that a time traveler from our time will have an easier time adapting to life in Ancient Rome than in the middle ages or even the early modern period.
It's really interesting to see how we really haven't changed that much in 2000 years. I bet if you gave a Roman a modern tablet PC and a bit of explanation, he'd be using that thing in a few days without a problem. And after a month, he'd just watch RUclips all day.
Well, there are primitive peoples who occasionally assimilate into modern society. There's people in Afghanistan who literally do not even know the ocean exist and do not have running water, but when exposed to stuff like fast food or modern technology; they take to it. The real interesting question is how many famous Romans would rather live in the modern world with its luxuries and give up their power in their time?
I'm always amazed at how modern-like people Romans were. They were like us but with less tech. ... I mean at least as a third worlder XD actually i kinda feel more closer to the day life of Rome than that of most modern societies. Like... What you mean there's no permanent rural market?
I never know that I want these videos about random aspects of common Roman life until I see them, and then I remember how much I want them. Still loving this series, and I can't wait to see the next one.
If there is no such thing, one thinks it might make a great fanfic. The Roman patron who made a food empire serving in taberne across the Roman world. Micdonaldus.
@@FireShoxx 410 CE to be exact. Speaking of ice cream this video makes a glaring mistake. Those boxes under the counters were for storing ice, there is no evidence of fire inside them and the design is wrong. Romans enjoyed frozen treats. One was lemon black pepper "ice cream" with fig honey jam.
I’m sure there would’ve been some senators wife who found her way into a teberna and had to complain about the wine quality, the stale bread, loud noise etc.
nathan ballew “I have a 5 year old aspiring senator! He deserves a discount because he’ll be running the country and deserves every support from us. I demand a discount and an explanation from your manager!”
@@retardcorpsman last week though he was going to be tribune of the plebs and the week before that you were a foreign queen. Knock it off lady and pay the full price. Vae victis
@@maddiepaddy2608 Historical Italian Cooking is much more barebone, but he cooks with authentic gear and has presented much more Ancient Roman (or Medieval Italian) dishes, a full process of fermenting Garum included.
I love this kind of episode, thank you! I imagine that Roman cuisine became more complex as the Republic expanded and became an Empire, and more and more cultures and their foods were encountered.
There was generally way less refines sugars and white flour. Also because there wasn't any modern dentistry people where way more caring of their teeth. For the most part.
@@femstora i pretty much doubt that, as far as i have seen most of the ancient sicknesses we have found evidence off are related to the teeth which usually means a bad hygene, they probably did clean their teeth but not to the level of care that we give ours
Dentistry was quite advanced. Only lacking in anasthetic. A bad tooth would be removed by biting hard on a peppercorn until the tooth shattered. Archaeologists have discovered metal crowns screwed into place, replacement teeth bridged between two others with metal bars and even removable dentures. The replacement teeth would be harvested from unfortunate slaves and prisoners. In medeival times people would chew on alkaline plants after a meal to neutralise acid and clean plaque; I don't know about Roman records of doing this but they likely did something similar.
Humans don't change tech does its why romans drew dicks all over walls. Thousands of years later we still do this as a prank it's also why history repeats itself humans don't change
I'm wondering how much further back it goes than that. Cities have been around for thousands of years longer than Rome, and I'd bet there was always a class in need of food vendors.
From what I could find online, they may have had small bottles or amphorae with the condiments in them for an extra charge. So yes but you had to pay extra for the dipping sauce
Packets not so much but I'm sure you could ask the staff to pour a little garamon your food and for a small Financial incentive they might even sell you a small jar or hollowed-out gourd.
9:17 I found the unending bowl from Norse mythology. Props to Invicta for doing this slice of life documentary, I've always liked those kinds, and it's hilarious to see that not much has changed over thousands of years when it comes to food. Suggestion: the mail/post/delivery system
Despite being very interested in military history, and styling myself an amateur military historian, THIS is what I am more interested in. The daily life of people past. This tremendously opens up our view of the past, much more than constant films about humanity killing, robbing and r....ing each other. Thank You for this film. Will give "tasting history" a gander, also.
One of the things I love most about history is that no matter what the era or culture is people are gonna people. We’re all different but at the same time we really are the same.
This would've been a great crossover with Tasting History, again. They had a video on making Roman snails, for one--- And literally while writing I see that bit pop up and I am happy anew
i’ve never heard of a roman sandwich before. if they did exist they’d look nothing like modern ones-their bread was quite tough, made with just coarse flour, oil, and water
Plebs has some inaccuracies (like the gladiator episode, gladiators didn’t fight to the death and women wouldn’t have sat with the men) but is still very accurate to what went down
This is it. This is your best video. Not massive wars and important people, just the lives of common, everyday people doing everyday stuff we still do here. It’s amazing how tangible history becomes through this.
The same in Portuguese (Taverna), but it's function changes a little: it still serves alcohol as a bar, but also serves as a small store, restaurant and eatery.
This is why I love RUclips. Before the internet people always believed that we are superior and more evolved than our ancestors, but nothing could be further from the truth. 2000 years ago people were exactly like us. They had less knowledge than we do today, but their brains were the same.
I really appreciate these videos about common life in the ancient world. Most videos are about military campaigns and such. This gives a true insight to their normal lives.
Archeologist found a clay recite from a shoemaker in Pompey ... tracked down his descendant in Naples ... presented him the thing ... he looked over it ... went to the back of the shop, came back and said: "They should be ready next week." 😆
According to Xenophon, Socrates also bitched about people drinking while chewing food, arguing that it ruined the taste and sensation of both materials. The guy must have been a riot at parties.
@@chromosomedcollector Yes and no, or pairs of words with a similar word, are affirmative and negative expressions in a variety of languages, including English, respectively. Some languages distinguish between affirmative and negative responses; instead, they can have three or four form systems. English originally used the four-figure system up to and including Early Middle English, but modern English has reduced it to a two-figure system of only "yes" and "no". It occurs in many aspects of communication, such as: blinking communication, head movements, Morse code, and sign language. Some languages, such as Latin, do not have a yes-no word system. Some languages do not answer "yes" with some words that mean "yes" or "no". Welsh, Finnish, and Chinese are among the languages that typically use the echo response (repeating a verb in an affirmative or negative form) instead of using the words "yes" and "no", although these languages may also have matching words very similar to "Yes and No" . Echo's answers avoid asking what an unadorned simulation means in response to a negative question. While that answers the question "You don't like strawberries?" is ambiguous in English, the Welsh Jewish answer (I am) is unambiguous. The word yes and cannot be easily classified into any of the eight conventional parts of speech. While they are sometimes classified as exclamation points, they are not classified as such [fact or opinion?] And are not adverbs. Sometimes they are classified as part of speech per se, sentences or pro-sentences, although this category includes more than yes and no, and not all linguists include them in their sentence list. Phrases consisting of only one of these two words are classified into short sentences.
I am from Indonesia and from what has been explained in the video. I can see an almost exact similarity of how Roman Tabernae operates with something here in Indonesia called "Warung Makan"; (lit: Meal Store [as in Store where you buy something and not storage]) commonly translated as Eatery. Its a very different establishment than a Restaurant or Fast Food joint yet I see absolutely close similarity to the Tabernae. A Warung Makan are common in Urban Areas like cities, but some rural areas may have those too. They are often Attached to a House or a Tenement much like the Taberna. They also have somewhat similar layout with food displayed in the counter for the customers to choose for, and like Tabernae, these place served mostly the plebes but may also serve the Middle and Mid-Upper classes, only seldomly when the place is very eloquent they serve the Upper class. They also serve, well, basically fast food because the food are already made and are displayed in front of the counter and are often only very lightly heated with candles or heating elements. As said because they are presented in front of the customer, most of the menus and prices are communicated instead of written. There are a lot of Varieties of Warung Makan that indicates which kind of cooking and from what region the dish will be, such as Warung Tegal which serve dishes from city of Tegal in the Northern part of Central Java, Warung Sunda which serves Sundanese dishes originated from East Java, or Warung Padang that serves food from Padang Region in West Sumatra. I cannot find any English documentation or references for it but here are the Indonesian version of Wikipedia regarding some or the Variations of Warung makan id.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumah_makan_Padang id.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warung_tegal I am new to this channel and absolutely fascinated by this fact of Romans were having the same "fast food" culture as most Indonesians
people of ancient usa consumed egregious quantities of canned sugar water and ate things that were grown in a vat. however one archeological dig of an ancient continence store reveled a cream filled snack cake which was still edible after being buried for many centuries, it was delicious.
Definitely a big fan of the guest appearances, great way for historical channels to support each other... Already subscribed to Max's channel and loving it! Great vid as always!
As a gastronomist larper from Brasil, I find this brilliant. Please make more videos about the people, History is full of battles and kings, and we learn so little about the actual life of people who lived like we actually do as the working class.
Could you do a video on how the Romans felt about people with disabilities? It could range anywhere from lost limbs, to autism, or to being blind. I think it would be an interesting video and I haven't seen anyone else delve into it.
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Roman starbucks.
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Cool video, I'd totally eat at a Roman fast food place. Sure, I'd probably good food poisoning and dysentary and nearly die, but it'd be worth it.
@@bonefetcherbrimley7740 Egg is probably a safe bet though. I think they did have some sort of cold food preservation like 4 meters under ground filled with ice.
magnum fumum : " I'll have Two number IXs , a number IX large, a number VI with extra dip, a number VII , two number XLVs one with cheese and a large wine "
Extra garum*
Ah, excremento, Ut hic autem iterum
You beat me to it XD
You, my Friend, are a legend
This is a severely underrated comment
Lucious! These fries are saltier than carthage.
That probably happened... 🤣
Damn..
Ows!!
@@happyslapsgiving5421 unfortunately no, cause potatoes came from the Americas
@@Dimitri88888888 I mean, yeah not with fries, but definitely with the same energy.
I remember going to an Italian restaurant and heard a guy complaining about salty pasta say "when they say the water should be as salty as the sea, they don't mean the Dead Sea" lmao.
I saw a BBC show about Pompeii where they showed the small food shops of modern Naples still have the same layout, just updated with electric facilities.
The things change, the more things stay the same.
@@genghiskhan6809 Is it possible you forgot one "more"? Im asking, because somehow both makes sense :D
@@MannIchFindKeinName yes I did. Thx for pointing that out.
I guess a time travelling Roman citizen wouldn't be too lost when they need to find local foods.
Do you remember the name? I'd greatly appreciate it
Yes I’ll have two numerus unum, two numero tres, and a small numerus quinque. Oh and a large wine!
Will you be going for the extra garum?
Me: I’ll also take a small martinus to wash it down.
Barkeep: Don’t you mean “martini?”
Me: WOAH slow down! I’ll tell you when I want more!
And supersize it!
Grande Smoke
@@christuke2904 biggus smoccus
The Guild of Millers only uses the finest grains. True Roman Bread for True Romans.
Instantly think about the hand gestures
We don't serve prostitutes, actors or unclean tradesmen
All mockery of the Jews and their one god shall be kept to an appropriate minimum!
Ah, a true person of culture
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This is my favorite type of history, how people actually _lived_ , what they ate, how they partied, the day to day life of various careers / trades etc.
Even the privileged ivory tower elites, to the grimy-ist pleb , battle hardened Patriots tyrants, to subversion Laden sentators bent on Rome's Fall .
Same here, it's the immersion. It's a lot easier to relate to the Roman's, as opposed to just imagining them as warriors who spent all day conquering.
Exactly. Food history and culture is some of the best.
Great Comment!
Yes, it's like it's own more immersive mythology
I agree completely. I'm always hoping to find a video game where, instead of concentrating on warfare and ruling kingdoms, you could just play a normal person's life. A shopkeeper, trying to keep their family fed and clothed or trying to save for a house in the country. Maybe as a common soldier, trying to rise in the ranks. I like the day to day details of just trying to survive and thrive.
it's so wild how it doesn't matter how much things change, they stay the same. These aspects of daily life are basically the exact same you'd find nowadays living in a place like Sao Paulo, the only thing that changes is the garments and food choices, but even the crowded small apartments with little room for cooking are still a thing.
My thoughts exactly! What is the difference between a 25m2 studio and a single-windowed room in a insula? The shit-pot flushing, I think
Thats why history is amazing you can make connections with people who lives thousands of years ago.
I could just picture my ancestor Claudius Cunninghamius's mother arguing with the cashier/cook because they where pretty much that of the time because of showing his mother attitude and getting the order wrong for the third time just like my mother except it is the cooks she argues with not the cashiers they are innocent man I am always entertain when they show her attitude. PS my mom is not a Karen she is the reverse she only argues with those that deserves it like McDonald cooks and anti maskers man they can be irritating at times.
Banished to Brazil
@@jonathancunningham8739 she sounds unbearable
Hearing about the foods that were considered luxuries in the past (cheese, meats, cakes etc) always makes me feel a little better about whatever meal I am making myself, because I know at the very least I am making long dead kings and emperors jealous.
Max Miller right out of the blue, what a pleasant surprise in an already great video!
I think stuff like this all the time! :D
like I might be an average guy but I live in unknown luxury with almost infinite knowledge at my fingertips in comparison to those in the past
You can thank modern mass production and agriculture for that~
yeah i think about that often. even if we feel like we're borderline poverty now, we live in a level of comfort that was almost unheard of back then.
@@brandynstahler5266 Well to be fair to modern people, ancient people never had to experience stuff like smog or acid rain. There's plenty of stuff that the modern person experiences on a daily basis that we don't even notice that an ancient person would go and say "how do you live like this"
Cato’s salt shop had me rollin 😂😂
I totally missed that. That is a painfully good joke.
Delenda est…
The other two weren't bad either. "Fortune flavors the bold." And the Cleopatra reference, "Asp-irational baking."
wonder what the average roman citizen would think about a Happy Meal
They'd probably spit that shit out instantly
Only the wealthiest would a be able to afford all that meat.
They would go insane at the idea that food can be that cheap and delicious - the average person in human history, including Romans, was impoverished and spent most of their money on food.
They also did not have a global supply chain that makes everyone have access to salt, spices, and exotic ingredients.
I doubt they would have spit it out.
@@mrniceguy7168 They would probably ask for Garum though.
@MKULTRA It’s not just theoretical but the fact that poor peoples TODAY are often obese because of the convenience of good tasting, cheap food. They choose that because they like it and it’s affordable.
It took decades of science and cultural shift for us to hate the cheap and tasty food we criticize today. A luxury that wealthy people can indulge in.
"Marc and Cleo's Asp-irational Baking". Invicta, you just won the internet for the year.
I didn’t get that at first, so Googled it and it’s more savage than I could’ve ever imagined 😂😂
The picture of Cato as salt bae got me too lol
@CIA An Asp is an Egyptian snake, is that enough to draw your own conclusions?
Roman Citizen 1: “Did you hear the news? Caesar has just declared a new chain of restaurants to be built alongside the forum.”
Roman Citizen 2: “Veritas? What will they be?”
Roman Citizen 1: “Yes. A Caledonian themed restaurant specializing in Angus beef from the highlands. It will be called, “McDonald’s”.
Roman Citizen 2: Really? They sound Celtic, if I’m being honest. Aren’t they barbaric?
Donaldian
Sounds like something from Asterix
@@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347 With this being your bachelor party, let us truly act barbarian. What say you?
Complete with Turnip fries…
Brilliant cross over with tasting history !
I wanted to say mate, I love this more then a focus on military roman life. I would really love more content like this.
I know it's not the most mainstream/popular, but you do it so well I'm sure it could be :D
I too prefer to make these "How They Did It" episodes on daily life. We certainly plan on making many more
@@InvictaHistory Oooh, one on the daily street life and traffic would be magnificent. Their system for wagon-use and transport of wares is surprisingly interesting, and to see how walking through those streets one evening would be.
Started reading a bit about it while working on a paper about the Porta Esquilina, and this video about their fast food business really reminded me of that!
Yeah I love these! I feel like I know all there is to know about the Roman military, but I always learn something new in these day to day videos! Keep up the good work guys!
Slice of life history is the best!
@@MartinTraXAA more then 2000 year old traffic rules? sounds interesting. like it.
As a vietnamese, I'm so happy that you mention my country specifically for its streetfood. Yeah, here we have a large variety of street food that will cater to all your tastes with very affordable prices. Here we also use fish sauce extensively for flavoring and dipping and has some world-famous brand of fish sauce.
Awsome 👍. Same in Bangladesh... especially in Cities + Coastal markets
Urban street food in Vietnam has been the same for thousand years. Samuel Baron and Christopher Boroccfi
Colonia Meconga 💪💪
It sounds like something straight out of an Asterix comic book.
Funny how they were accidentally more historically correct than the historians of their time.
@@Chronos4088 The first Asterix was published in the 50's
If Obelix discovered this he would convert to roman instantly
@@pacosoentken303 A guy his size needs lots of protein, that was expensive.
@@jakobinobles3263 He would complain about where the chef went because he only had his starters.
The Roman restaurant or shops pitches got me laughing hysterically "Cato's salt shop" that got me good
That bloody picture had me rolling
I literally had to pause it to appreciate it and laugh lol
The cherry on top was "carthago delenda est" at the bottom lmao
@@kainalucarpiocuico5833 Dovah-Gang
yeah that's the best one
One of the changes in archaeology that I am most grateful for is the interest in the lives of the commoners and other people that are often forgotten as well as mostly 'invisible' in historical sources.
Agreed. It seems more satisfying to me to learn how they lived. They are more interesting to me than nobles are.
I appreciate that but I wonder when the interest for the lives of the common man started
@@DarkPsychoMessiah Generally I'd say it kinda follows the archaeological theories of the processual archaeology (from around 1950s) that began the interest in the wider archaeological material and research into things relevant to the lives of 'commoners' as a way to gain greater insight into past societies as a whole, with less focus on material chronology and physical findings of impressive nature (kings tombs, treasure, monuments).
Further, post-processual archaeology (from around 1980s) imo is where the common people's lives increasingly became a focus of interest in of itself and not just a means to find answers to questions (i.e. what was the scope of the Maya settlements and interconnected trade?), but the focus of the question itself (i.e. what governed the lives of the Maya people?).
Museums and projects dedicated to the subject has only really been projected to a wider audience in the last 2 decades or so in my experience.
But that's just my thoughts from the top of my head :]
Well, we are all humans after all. The ideas that we had today could cross the minds of people from thousands of years ago.
Well said.
Most of what people eat today is made of corn rice and potatoes, none of which they had.
@@MrLoobu well that's more because we hadn't thought about corn as a food because it was on an entirely unknown continent
@@MrLoobu Weird that you ignore wheat and similar grains, which are arguably more common than corn or rice in a European setting. Potatoes, sure, but corn is only really common in the Americas.
@@klol3369 my point. Look up the 4 largest farmed food stuffs by volume
Some Restaurants in Rome have reinstated old roman food recipes and some are really tasty. some are more.. weird to our modern tastes. a must try if you ever travel there.
last time i went to rome most restaurants served frozen food
@@majorfallacy5926 you just have to know where to look if you have a decent amount of money go to the more upper class restraunt areas I never went I am just guessing.
Recommendations?
@@cc0767 I do not know look on review websites I never went I just guessed.
Ive heard only terrible things about the food in Rome. What a shame
roman bread and pastries would be really different from what we expect today-milk, butter, and eggs were very expensive in the city, so i can’t imagine your local popina would have much besides the standard roman loaves. another interesting fact-because of the small living quarters for the majority of the population, rome had communal ovens where people would go to bake their bread!
(source: i’m a classics student and have studied this)
Check out the Tasting History channel if you haven't already!
Did they charge for using the communal ovens?
@@shastasilverchairsg as far as i’m aware, the ovens and the flour for bread were provided by the state within the city of rome. it was a measure to keep the lower classes from revolting
The best pastries are salty (cheesy) anyway.
most modern pastries contain nothing else but wheat, salt, sugar and water and of course artificial emulsifiers that didn't exist back then and that make us sick and the biggest difference yet: gluten nowadays is 70% of the wheat protein but it used to be less than 4% so the texture of bread was completely different and didn't make people gluten intolerant.
>Invicta
>Max Miller
Top 10 Anime Crossovers
- Man, Julivs, I've heard the Souvlaki at Alexander's Palace is fantastic, we should dine there next time we go to the Pomerium.
*- Yes, Antoninvs. But you see, he was only 23 and already had a restaurant of his own, shall I ever accomplish such feat at this advanced age and I shall deserve a place under his shadow*
Another enjoyable piece of time tourism. The major events are essential learning but they don't really give much indication about what life was really like for the average Roman dude.. It's inevitable that most of us history nerds will end up with questions about daily life and they're usually the hardest to answer.. So I very much appreciate these well researched insights through the murky window of time. Please keep it up. Thanks.
"Yes, this is 'Olivia's Olivetum'. I'm Olivia. And by the looks of it, you are another time traveler who wants to joke about 'HaViNg BeeN aT OlIvE GarDeN BuT In OlD RomE LoL' when you're back to your time. Doesn't mean you can cut the line. Move along, some people have been waiting for years."
People never change. Only the methods of getting food.
This is incredible. I had no idea how similar the Roman experience was to our modern day. Enlightening and a little scary.
Times changes, but never too much
Graffiti already existed in this era, syndicated crime, lawyer, social media (although without internet), flipping birdie.
yea its pretty incredible specially their military structure was extremely much like today
@@herryis4392 social media?
People don't realize that a time traveler from our time will have an easier time adapting to life in Ancient Rome than in the middle ages or even the early modern period.
This video was sponsored by the guild of millers.
The guild of millers uses only the finest grains.
Making true Roman bread,for true Romans.
Make Rome great again.
hbo Rome lol
Sounds like a commercial for Roman Meal bread.
DON’T buy guild of millers bread
They are in LEAGUE with the Parthians
@@Britishdarnlib something about how conspiratorial this suddenly became made my spit my drink
I think it’s fascinating that we have more in common with ancient civilizations than we typically think.
We have more in common with them than we do with medieval societies.
Thats so interesting i think as time progresses tends change but are almost always inspired by previous times
"Wanna hitup Mark & Cleo's tonight?"
"Nah, she's always a bit too saucy."
It's really interesting to see how we really haven't changed that much in 2000 years. I bet if you gave a Roman a modern tablet PC and a bit of explanation, he'd be using that thing in a few days without a problem. And after a month, he'd just watch RUclips all day.
The Romans would take OnlyFans to a whole new level.
Well, there are primitive peoples who occasionally assimilate into modern society.
There's people in Afghanistan who literally do not even know the ocean exist and do not have running water, but when exposed to stuff like fast food or modern technology; they take to it.
The real interesting question is how many famous Romans would rather live in the modern world with its luxuries and give up their power in their time?
People are famously adaptable: Once they get a handle on something, they'll usually stick to it, and maybe improve it even!
That would be quite a wonder to see that
@@shastasilverchairsg wonder if the Romans would also simp on twitch streamers
Domina's is famous for their flatbread with cheese and sausage. Needs sauce though.
I've tried Casa Panis and it was no better, but at least they have flavoured fruit ices.
Really? my flatbreads are usually drenched in sauce to the point where it's damn near inediable.
BatsToast3
Dont order in Midday my dude. Domina rushes their orders in midday a lot.
To get the best experience, you gotta order at dusk.
@@retardcorpsman alright thanks for the tip
So French Fries would be called Gaul Fries?
If with Gaul you mean what is now Belgium, then yes. Otherwise, no.
If they had discovered America, where potatoes came from.
@@evertjan9479 _Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres, _*_quarum unam incolunt Belgae..._*
No potatoes in Europe at the time😫
@@bearcbyour fun at parties
I'm always amazed at how modern-like people Romans were. They were like us but with less tech.
... I mean at least as a third worlder XD actually i kinda feel more closer to the day life of Rome than that of most modern societies.
Like... What you mean there's no permanent rural market?
As a Brazilian, I say the same - even in large cities here we have rural markets!
We love our food fresh, goddamnit!
suggestion for a topic:
"social networks in ancient Rome", how to swing public opinion in your favor
Ancient Roman dating apps especially. Were desperate people using matchmakers or just cruising?
Being successful at warfare seemed pretty effective
Love your profile pic hades!
Like today, bread and games... and if it's not enough... the whip! 😈
i hear the ping times in rome were terrible.
I never know that I want these videos about random aspects of common Roman life until I see them, and then I remember how much I want them.
Still loving this series, and I can't wait to see the next one.
Can’t wait to learn about Roman Micky D’s
If there is no such thing, one thinks it might make a great fanfic. The Roman patron who made a food empire serving in taberne across the Roman world. Micdonaldus.
@@HolyKhaaaaan it fell in circa 400 CE cuz they lacked working icecream machines
The Maximum Max. Two all sow vulva patties with special garum, all on a sesame seed bun.
@@FireShoxx 410 CE to be exact. Speaking of ice cream this video makes a glaring mistake. Those boxes under the counters were for storing ice, there is no evidence of fire inside them and the design is wrong. Romans enjoyed frozen treats. One was lemon black pepper "ice cream" with fig honey jam.
@Mr. Fascistic why
Imagine an ancient Karen,
"OMG wheres the owner?!?!?!!?? there is too much garum on my stew!"
You forgot, " I AM THE MOTHER OF THE EMPEROR WHERE IS YOUR PATRONUS!!!"
Katie Arbuckle
“I AM THE PATRONUS!”
I'm sure the ancients had Karen's and people from the likes of today... Nothing's really changed
They'll never complain about that, it's usually not enough garum, or accusations of watered down garum.
Karenus Maximus
I'll take a Caesar salad with a side of garlic bread.
Random fact: the Cesars Salad is actually named after a Mexican named Cesar
@@olenickel6013 and the Mexican is named after the Roman
How has the recipe for the Augustan salad been lost to time? It must have been the superior
@@eljanrimsa5843 But the salad has nothing to do with Rome, same with the garlic thingy
Not Gallic bread? Or maybe Gaelic bread.
I feel like there is going to be a ancient Karen asking for the manager
Pretty sure that’s exclusive to the last ~50 years or less
@@nothingtoseeheremovealong598 no
I’m sure there would’ve been some senators wife who found her way into a teberna and had to complain about the wine quality, the stale bread, loud noise etc.
nathan ballew
“I have a 5 year old aspiring senator! He deserves a discount because he’ll be running the country and deserves every support from us. I demand a discount and an explanation from your manager!”
@@retardcorpsman last week though he was going to be tribune of the plebs and the week before that you were a foreign queen. Knock it off lady and pay the full price. Vae victis
Sulla´s Drive-Through - Quick Snack On Your Way To Conquest.
Im gonna change my entrepeneurship´s name into "Flavian based" true vegan Gladiator's meal - Those about to cook, salute you.
@@Diogolindir Sumo food is somewhat popular as niche, maybe the same applied to Gladiator's meatless stews, run by retired Gladiators.
Just add an espresso machine and they are still in business everywhere in Italy.
Extra shoutout to *Tasting History with Max Miller* everyone here should check him out, it's a fantastic channel.
Any other underrated history channels you recommend?
@@maddiepaddy2608 Historical Italian Cooking is much more barebone, but he cooks with authentic gear and has presented much more Ancient Roman (or Medieval Italian) dishes, a full process of fermenting Garum included.
Amazing how Roman we still are. Tabernae on the bottom part of apartment buildings, design of them, even advertisement.
I love this kind of episode, thank you! I imagine that Roman cuisine became more complex as the Republic expanded and became an Empire, and more and more cultures and their foods were encountered.
I’m afraid to ask what the dentist was like in Ancient Rome.
Especially with my teeth.
@T teg Egg have had that done to 4 of them already.
Paying for my teenage years of drinking soda
There was generally way less refines sugars and white flour. Also because there wasn't any modern dentistry people where way more caring of their teeth. For the most part.
@@femstora true.
But having 6 sodas a day would have destroyed any teeth, even protected ones.
@@femstora i pretty much doubt that, as far as i have seen most of the ancient sicknesses we have found evidence off are related to the teeth which usually means a bad hygene, they probably did clean their teeth but not to the level of care that we give ours
Dentistry was quite advanced. Only lacking in anasthetic. A bad tooth would be removed by biting hard on a peppercorn until the tooth shattered. Archaeologists have discovered metal crowns screwed into place, replacement teeth bridged between two others with metal bars and even removable dentures. The replacement teeth would be harvested from unfortunate slaves and prisoners. In medeival times people would chew on alkaline plants after a meal to neutralise acid and clean plaque; I don't know about Roman records of doing this but they likely did something similar.
In Spain, dinner's still called Cena
Also in Italian
@@bearcb latin gang
@@SimuLord that joke was in fromt of me all this time and i couldnt see it, just like John Cena
In Mexico too.
@@miguelrodriguez-pineroriva6713 not in Brazil 😔, here is ceia
I remember reading they found archeological ruins of a fast-food place with a "drive-in", where you could ride up with a window.
Hah, imagine if they had one where you could park your wagon, and eat inside it, with the servers taking the food to your cart.
“Oooh fancy. They ‘ave a window.”
“Yeah but the foods expensive. 5 as for a porridge?”
So it is a "drive thru", but for chariots?
13:37
*Genius. All of them.*
Holy crap, even their time stamp is awesome
So you’re saying that our lifestyle now is 2000 years old? Wow evolution sure moves slow
Humans don't change tech does its why romans drew dicks all over walls. Thousands of years later we still do this as a prank it's also why history repeats itself humans don't change
It doesnt move slow. We just refuse to evolve
>Imagine being a wagie in 1 AD
Evolution moves a lot slower than civilization.
I'm wondering how much further back it goes than that. Cities have been around for thousands of years longer than Rome, and I'd bet there was always a class in need of food vendors.
Did they have fish sauce in little packets that you could take home with you?
From what I could find online, they may have had small bottles or amphorae with the condiments in them for an extra charge. So yes but you had to pay extra for the dipping sauce
Packets not so much but I'm sure you could ask the staff to pour a little garamon your food and for a small Financial incentive they might even sell you a small jar or hollowed-out gourd.
I would imagine you were really paying extra for the container.
@@RikoJAmado Well, if you can bring it back later for a refund then it's not really a charge... though I can see people keeping them for use later.
9:17 I found the unending bowl from Norse mythology.
Props to Invicta for doing this slice of life documentary, I've always liked those kinds, and it's hilarious to see that not much has changed over thousands of years when it comes to food.
Suggestion: the mail/post/delivery system
Despite being very interested in military history, and styling myself an amateur military historian, THIS is what I am more interested in.
The daily life of people past. This tremendously opens up our view of the past, much more than constant films about humanity killing, robbing and r....ing each other.
Thank You for this film. Will give "tasting history" a gander, also.
One of the things I love most about history is that no matter what the era or culture is people are gonna people. We’re all different but at the same time we really are the same.
7:40 “…other desired bits and pieces of the creature, like a goose liver, and sow vulva.”
And to this very day, we still call it “eating out”.
This would've been a great crossover with Tasting History, again. They had a video on making Roman snails, for one---
And literally while writing I see that bit pop up and I am happy anew
John Montagu: I invented sandwich!
Romans: Am I a joke to you?
i’ve never heard of a roman sandwich before. if they did exist they’d look nothing like modern ones-their bread was quite tough, made with just coarse flour, oil, and water
Again a sitcom based on roman life would be so cool Especially if it's researched.
Check Horrible History
There is a sitcom based in Roman life called "plebs" if you're interested
Plebs has some inaccuracies (like the gladiator episode, gladiators didn’t fight to the death and women wouldn’t have sat with the men) but is still very accurate to what went down
This is it. This is your best video. Not massive wars and important people, just the lives of common, everyday people doing everyday stuff we still do here. It’s amazing how tangible history becomes through this.
Always wanted to open an ancient Roman or medieval themed bar that serves authentic food and drinks from the eras.
That’s a cool and unique idea
You might want to start on your Garum Now... It takes 6 months .
@@Bluewater225 medieval times does it, so does michie tavern
@@katiearbuckle9017 colatura di alici would probably work well as a substitute.
Wonder why that hasn't been done to be pretty honest
I wonder. Is the Latin Tabernae the origin for the English word Tavern, an old fashioned word for pub or bar
Correct, it went from Latin to French (Taverne has the exact same meaning) and then to English
Same in Spanish...Taberna.
@@nicolasylb9474 Even in German, people would understand what a Taverne is although the use of it is a bit obscure.
The same in Portuguese (Taverna), but it's function changes a little: it still serves alcohol as a bar, but also serves as a small store, restaurant and eatery.
This is why I love RUclips. Before the internet people always believed that we are superior and more evolved than our ancestors, but nothing could be further from the truth. 2000 years ago people were exactly like us.
They had less knowledge than we do today, but their brains were the same.
I really appreciate these videos about common life in the ancient world. Most videos are about military campaigns and such. This gives a true insight to their normal lives.
15:21 'this food might be taken back to the apartment as evidenced by the remains we find in the latrines"
Ah, so they did have taco bell back then
Suggestion: What did ancient armies on march do if it happens to start raining or snowing? Or ancient people in general
Well, the same as a napoleonic army. Keep walking faster and camp as fast as possible.
@@tadeuszsa8314 But almost entire Napoleon's army died
They would get wet.
Put on a cloak, probably
Wool cloaks are great in keeping you dry and warm under rain.
I went to one in Pompeii.
They were closed.
I’m guessing that their last Health and Safety inspection did not go over very well.
Archeologist found a clay recite from a shoemaker in Pompey ... tracked down his descendant in Naples ... presented him the thing ... he looked over it ... went to the back of the shop, came back and said: "They should be ready next week." 😆
"Worthless people live only to eat and drink; people of worth eat and drink only to live"
- Socrates
This guy needs a snickers.
@@cratoss.4772 lmao
@@Dimitri88888888 just give the guy his ambrosia please!
According to Xenophon, Socrates also bitched about people drinking while chewing food, arguing that it ruined the taste and sensation of both materials. The guy must have been a riot at parties.
@@KSEG must be one of the reasons they got rid of him...
Love the channel, is one of my favourite, and specially love this "How they did it" series, it's the best!
I am still desparetely waiting for
How they did it *Partying* in ancient rome
for all viewers eighteen and up episode!
lol
@T teg Egg there is *none*
Like orgies?
@@GeorgeEstregan828 *definetly*
@@thedoruk6324 Why no restraint?
I'm pretty sure these tastes were caterd for as well even beack then...
Okay, please PLEASE give me a Cato's Salt Shop shirt
I never knew Roman life was so... Modern.
Define "modern"
@@amosamwig8394 define "define"
@@chromosomedcollector No
@@amosamwig8394 define "no"
@@chromosomedcollector Yes and no, or pairs of words with a similar word, are affirmative and negative expressions in a variety of languages, including English, respectively. Some languages distinguish between affirmative and negative responses; instead, they can have three or four form systems. English originally used the four-figure system up to and including Early Middle English, but modern English has reduced it to a two-figure system of only "yes" and "no". It occurs in many aspects of communication, such as: blinking communication, head movements, Morse code, and sign language. Some languages, such as Latin, do not have a yes-no word system.
Some languages do not answer "yes" with some words that mean "yes" or "no". Welsh, Finnish, and Chinese are among the languages that typically use the echo response (repeating a verb in an affirmative or negative form) instead of using the words "yes" and "no", although these languages may also have matching words very similar to "Yes and No" . Echo's answers avoid asking what an unadorned simulation means in response to a negative question. While that answers the question "You don't like strawberries?" is ambiguous in English, the Welsh Jewish answer (I am) is unambiguous.
The word yes and cannot be easily classified into any of the eight conventional parts of speech. While they are sometimes classified as exclamation points, they are not classified as such [fact or opinion?] And are not adverbs. Sometimes they are classified as part of speech per se, sentences or pro-sentences, although this category includes more than yes and no, and not all linguists include them in their sentence list. Phrases consisting of only one of these two words are classified into short sentences.
Invicta and Tasting History in one video? My 2 favorite channels ❤️
@RUclips Censorship Yeah Max is great!
This wonderful episode felt like a tourist guide for visiting a Roman city done for foreigners. It'd be great to see more!
I am from Indonesia and from what has been explained in the video. I can see an almost exact similarity of how Roman Tabernae operates with something here in Indonesia called "Warung Makan"; (lit: Meal Store [as in Store where you buy something and not storage]) commonly translated as Eatery. Its a very different establishment than a Restaurant or Fast Food joint yet I see absolutely close similarity to the Tabernae.
A Warung Makan are common in Urban Areas like cities, but some rural areas may have those too. They are often Attached to a House or a Tenement much like the Taberna. They also have somewhat similar layout with food displayed in the counter for the customers to choose for, and like Tabernae, these place served mostly the plebes but may also serve the Middle and Mid-Upper classes, only seldomly when the place is very eloquent they serve the Upper class. They also serve, well, basically fast food because the food are already made and are displayed in front of the counter and are often only very lightly heated with candles or heating elements. As said because they are presented in front of the customer, most of the menus and prices are communicated instead of written.
There are a lot of Varieties of Warung Makan that indicates which kind of cooking and from what region the dish will be, such as Warung Tegal which serve dishes from city of Tegal in the Northern part of Central Java, Warung Sunda which serves Sundanese dishes originated from East Java, or Warung Padang that serves food from Padang Region in West Sumatra.
I cannot find any English documentation or references for it but here are the Indonesian version of Wikipedia regarding some or the Variations of Warung makan
id.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumah_makan_Padang
id.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warung_tegal
I am new to this channel and absolutely fascinated by this fact of Romans were having the same "fast food" culture as most Indonesians
Two of my favorite history channel, Max Miller and Invicta come together, can things be more dreamy like this
Roman Vendor: Get your rat heads and whale eyes! I got the freshest whale eyes this side of West XIIIth St.
Don't forget the sow vulva.
@@dbojangles1597 lmao oh God! 🤮
@@jamesc8259 I mean who knows maybe it tastes alright? It's not like I've never eaten pussy before lol.
Ah nice crossover, actually watch Max
The more things change, the more they stay the same! Fascinating episode!
hard to imagine, in another 1000 years future historians will be analysing our fast food culture.
people of ancient usa consumed egregious quantities of canned sugar water and ate things that were grown in a vat. however one archeological dig of an ancient continence store reveled a cream filled snack cake which was still edible after being buried for many centuries, it was delicious.
The other archaeologist watching him eat a centuries old food: 😐
somehow I feel like "street food" would be a better description as "fast food"
“Buyer of roasted chickpeas “ is the sickest burn I’ve heard in a while.
"Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries"
@@ge2623 Famous ancient Roman orator Cicero (it was a nickname, it means chickpea).
Did I hear correctly? At 7:45 "sow vulva", as a speciality cut of meat?!
Yeah I had to stop myself from googling that at the last second. The advertisements I get are weird enough as it is, google!
Considered a delicacy. 😅
The Ancients were more serious than even US Southerners are about using ALL of the animal....
I'm so surprised max miller made an appearance! This chanel & his are favorite!
"Hi, I'd like a Mac Superior meal, with large glass of conditum please."
I'm deffinitly gonna use all those informations on the video game I'm working on right now.
About the food managment, shops, etc.
Great episode! Absolutely fascinating to learn about how the actually lived..
Collab between Max and Invicta?!?!
Another awesome video, food and history are a match made in heaven!
Missed opportunity with Brutus' Brazillian Steak House.
@Belagerungsmörser the Sheep Yeah but, Caesar never salad, Brutus did skewer some meat 🍖.
Hallo Max! Good to see you here! I hope to see you again, too.
Lmao I love roasted chickpeas, call me a “buyer of roasted chickpeas” all you want.
Loving these "daily life of" type episodes way more than the war histories that every channel does.
You just know that there's probably a Hooters-like establishment where Roman waitresses were dressed up like Cleopatra, Boudicca, and Dido, somewhere.
Yeah, Ironically it was the back of that same Popino in Pompeii.
I mean, they literally had brothels attached to some Thermopolia, so why wouldn't there be one with hot babes serving you food?
Definitely a big fan of the guest appearances, great way for historical channels to support each other... Already subscribed to Max's channel and loving it! Great vid as always!
I was expecting something along the lines of medieval pies but this was so much better
As a gastronomist larper from Brasil, I find this brilliant. Please make more videos about the people, History is full of battles and kings, and we learn so little about the actual life of people who lived like we actually do as the working class.
Could you do a video on how the Romans felt about people with disabilities? It could range anywhere from lost limbs, to autism, or to being blind. I think it would be an interesting video and I haven't seen anyone else delve into it.
I’m so in love with this channel and it’s content
I live in Vietnam and the entire time my partner and I kept saying “this sounds like Vietnam”
Absolutely LOVE these kinda of videos. Little looks into the mundanity of history. Super interesting!!!
Why can't modern fast food restaurants look like this?
@@SimuLord Olive Garden
Those are pretty much still all over the place in modern third world countries
@@SimuLord Many buffet restaurants or Cantinas still run with this concept.
So proud of max becoming a history youtuber!