Creation Engine isn't a problem we think it is. Short sighted articles like this are going to get all games put on the POS unreal engine. We should not want all games on UE. That game looks very pretty and brings a whole host of other problems. Starfield is crap because it is five steps back FROM Skyrim. Starfield feels more dead than FO76 somehow. The real issue is that Bethesda is, and always has been, too corporate. It is even worse with Microsoft in the picture now. The creation engine is fantastic. Look at what modders do with ZERO budget. All we need to do is pressure Bethesda and Microsoft by holding them accountable to fix the creation engine. Anything less will give us a subpar product and likely no mods. Additionally, new bethesda is going to spend crucial resources (money and time) on DEI and queer elements. If I was everyone, I would be extremely cautious with ES6 and it has nothing to do with the Creation Engine.
I'd say Creation Engine isn't the only problem but it is one of them. Starfield didn't need to have the best graphics but when they look like they're from a game in the 2010s, it does affect immersion. If Bethesda build a proper Creation Engine 2.0 instead of the slapping a layer of paint on top of the last iteration, we could have a good game.
great comment, you do have a point with UE5, it is a worry that more games are going to be made on UE5, they will look or function in a similar way and contain the same bugs. Starfield does seem more dead then 76, I still cant work out how they managed to do that lol
@@samuraichicken2315 That's not the Creation Engine. That's lack of effort and creativity by Bethesda. Look at the modlists for Skyrim called LoreRim 3.0 and Nolvus 6. They make Skyrim look like it released in 2024. Again, Creation Engine is not the problem. Don't be psyop'd into that rhetoric. It has issues that can be fixed, yes. But the Creation Engine is the best modding engine out there. It's pro-Gamer.
The biggest concern I have with Bethesda rn is that they'll c&d Skyblivion before putting out their crappy Oblivion remake themselves which can only be worse than Skyblivion will be.
When the new Elder Scrolls game comes out people will say it sucks and wish it was as good as Starfield. We have been living in this same loop since Morrowind.
The problem is each game since Morrowind has seen key parts of the game removed. In short Skyrim is much more simplified/dumbed down than Morrowind. You can no longer build your own stats. Skills are not as numerous. You can no longer make your own spells or enchantments. Your choices don't make much of a difference as they did in earlier games. And so on.
I don't think we should have any illusions about TES6. Bethesda is who they are. Using the same engine as starfield just shows how lazy and low quality the studio has become. It will be crap, have bugs, and of course they will rely on modders. They've been doing this for more than a decade now, money speaks louder. Why bother making a good polished game, when people are just going to buy it regardless, and modders will fix it... This game is bethesda's last hope and I doubt they care as much as we do
Cant blame it on the age of creation engine which is modified version of gamebryo. Gamebryo was origionally released in 1997, Unreal engine came out in 1998. Ive seen modders do things that bethesda are having issues implamenting. There are issues as with all game engines but as any eninge they could all be fixed. If they put the tie into it.
as long as they update the creation engine to a modern standard it should work out, starfield did look really good and TES6 should look better, I think the creation engine is great for modding, if they improve that aspect it will be good
Bethesda must use the newest cutting edge AI tech to add personality to NPCs with backgrounds, an overall new interactive system to communicate with them. I need the old dialogue boxes no more, i want true immersion
Im really trying to stay optimistic too. I hope they include Hammerfell & High Rock in the base game. It would be awesome if they would try to include as many countries as they can for dlcs as an example. I just think we need something big like this, especially since this might be Todd's last Elder Scrolls game. It would be cool to see ESO Styled expansions for the game, for extended support if they are looking to support this game for 10+ years.
Every game has some kind of flaw, Fallout 4 is extremely far from being a bad game, much on the contrary, really. Saying Fallout 4 gets criticism for an underwhelming story ark makes no sense at all. Repetitive gameplay is something very common, even for example in BG3 where basically every choice matters, but still, there is a lot of repetition no matter what, so this about games looking to be less repetitive is pretty new and makes no sense to ask Fallout 4 to be something like BG3. Bethesta engine is clunky, I'll give you that, but if the new Elder Scrolls give me some of the feeling that Skyrim or Fallout 4 did I will be extremely happy no matter what.
if I also get some of the feeling out of TES6 that I got out of Skyrim or Oblivion I would be pretty happy, Fallout 4 was good but modders made it truly great, thanks to mods iv put over 2000 hours into fallout 4, I guess what i was trying to get at was that if the majority of gamers who play TES6 vastly enjoy there experience and are happy with the game then its a win, my worry is that TES6 might end up like starfield, time will tell
So it’s not really the engine it’s the development teams inability to use it that’s why someone could use the engine on star field to make a mod that cut the shaders used in half while improving the graphics and improving the game’s ability run smoothly. So really Bethesda needs too start looking at there best Skyrim moders and consider hiring them and replacing some of there under preforming employees.
they released skyrim way too much, but people were buying it so they were probably disincentivized to make Elder scrolls 6 until they could squeeze all the life out of Skyrim
I agree, I played starfield for about 7 Hours and couldn't bring myself to continue it, I will probably play it one day again, heavy modded and pushing a 6090 to the max lol
If the story are lore are good, we will accept the janky tech, think oblivion. If the story and lore aren't good, the jank becomes another nail in the coffin, think starfield. The single biggest problem is the gap between ES5 and ES6. There's too much expectation now while the company changed too much. The fans haven't really changed, we know what we want, think fallout london.
You mean the biggest concern apart from the fact Bethesda are a woke company and Todd Howard is a visionless hack who is responsible for TES being in stagnation the last 20+ years, with some of the worst narrative writers in the gaming industry? I mean sure, Bethesda create great worlds but they make lousy games.
Wow that's wild. You describing how Bethesda is prioritizing profit over the quality of the games and you call it woke? If y'all wokeheads could agree on a good definition for this woke word y'all love so much maybe I wouldn't be so gobsmacked to see capitalism described as woke hahaha, *redbone*
@@kingofnorthumbriayeah Most left ppl Like me hate capitalism. But now a days woke Just mean "i dont Like it but cant say why". I mean they called Warhammer 2 woke and wehn you Look at the Lore it is but its a good Game so it cant be woke lol. Same for Baldurs gate, cyberpunk, the Witcher 3 or Skyrim. If you define woke as progressive pro LGBTQ and anti racists These Games are all woke
@@kingofnorthumbriaWokeness is the forced insertion of modern left wing identity politics. Which we saw in starfield. We also see this in Bethesdas hiring practices.
My first elder scrolls game was oblivion and yeah you have a point, I don't like getting excited for games and then they end up being very disappointing
Nah after FO76 and Starfield plus they kept toying ruining FO4 and Skyrim to this day. I dont put any hope to TES6. By the time the game release it would be a permanent seal for bethesda to stick as publishers than being AAA studios. Emil & Todd seems never play any videogames in past 20 years really.
I feel the same way and hope its not the case, I really hope, if they nail 1 thing right, i hope its the modding tools, that way it can be fixed by this brilliant community of modders. Time will tell I guess, thanks for the comment
By the time ES6 comes out- most of the original fan base will be completely out of gaming. Its way too late and the gaming community that embraced ES5 is mostly gone.
What does repetitive gameplay and the story have to do with the Creation Engine? The Technical issues I get but the bread and butter of a good game is purely up to the imagination of those making it. Bethesda will release the game as a buggy mess, but it's always been fine. People enjoy a good game, even with bugs. I am sure they will fail to release anything new though, Elder Scrolls is a good franchise, and the story may have similar tropes (Waking up as a prisoner) but the real heart of the matter is if they can deliver a truly different experience than the rest.
you can most defiantly put Witcher 3, BG3 and Skyrim in the same conversation, they are all great games in the own way, what I was pointing out is that when Witcher 3 and BG3 release they were in good/great condition and if there were any issues, they were patched and fixed quickly. I wish more games released it a good/great condition from Day 1, sorry if this was not the message conveyed in the video, ill work on that for next time.
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Creation Engine isn't a problem we think it is. Short sighted articles like this are going to get all games put on the POS unreal engine. We should not want all games on UE. That game looks very pretty and brings a whole host of other problems. Starfield is crap because it is five steps back FROM Skyrim. Starfield feels more dead than FO76 somehow.
The real issue is that Bethesda is, and always has been, too corporate. It is even worse with Microsoft in the picture now. The creation engine is fantastic. Look at what modders do with ZERO budget. All we need to do is pressure Bethesda and Microsoft by holding them accountable to fix the creation engine. Anything less will give us a subpar product and likely no mods.
Additionally, new bethesda is going to spend crucial resources (money and time) on DEI and queer elements. If I was everyone, I would be extremely cautious with ES6 and it has nothing to do with the Creation Engine.
I agree, Starfield had a horrible story. It was written bad and that can not be blamed on the creation engine.
I'd say Creation Engine isn't the only problem but it is one of them. Starfield didn't need to have the best graphics but when they look like they're from a game in the 2010s, it does affect immersion.
If Bethesda build a proper Creation Engine 2.0 instead of the slapping a layer of paint on top of the last iteration, we could have a good game.
great comment, you do have a point with UE5, it is a worry that more games are going to be made on UE5, they will look or function in a similar way and contain the same bugs.
Starfield does seem more dead then 76, I still cant work out how they managed to do that lol
@@samuraichicken2315 That's not the Creation Engine. That's lack of effort and creativity by Bethesda. Look at the modlists for Skyrim called LoreRim 3.0 and Nolvus 6. They make Skyrim look like it released in 2024.
Again, Creation Engine is not the problem. Don't be psyop'd into that rhetoric. It has issues that can be fixed, yes. But the Creation Engine is the best modding engine out there. It's pro-Gamer.
The biggest concern I have with Bethesda rn is that they'll c&d Skyblivion before putting out their crappy Oblivion remake themselves which can only be worse than Skyblivion will be.
that is a major concern, the fans would probably go after Bethesda if they did that
When the new Elder Scrolls game comes out people will say it sucks and wish it was as good as Starfield.
We have been living in this same loop since Morrowind.
You maybe on to something here, when i first play skyrim I thought it looked better but took away what I like about oblivion
The problem is each game since Morrowind has seen key parts of the game removed. In short Skyrim is much more simplified/dumbed down than Morrowind. You can no longer build your own stats. Skills are not as numerous. You can no longer make your own spells or enchantments. Your choices don't make much of a difference as they did in earlier games. And so on.
As long as the lead writer brings his a game and leaves his ego at the door, which I doubt that he can the story should be at least as good as Skyrim
agreed, the writing needs to be good
I don't think we should have any illusions about TES6. Bethesda is who they are. Using the same engine as starfield just shows how lazy and low quality the studio has become. It will be crap, have bugs, and of course they will rely on modders. They've been doing this for more than a decade now, money speaks louder. Why bother making a good polished game, when people are just going to buy it regardless, and modders will fix it...
This game is bethesda's last hope and I doubt they care as much as we do
Cant blame it on the age of creation engine which is modified version of gamebryo. Gamebryo was origionally released in 1997, Unreal engine came out in 1998. Ive seen modders do things that bethesda are having issues implamenting. There are issues as with all game engines but as any eninge they could all be fixed. If they put the tie into it.
as long as they update the creation engine to a modern standard it should work out, starfield did look really good and TES6 should look better, I think the creation engine is great for modding, if they improve that aspect it will be good
Don't get your hopes up.
that's my worry, sky high hopes and then a shocking reality check
Bethesda must use the newest cutting edge AI tech to add personality to NPCs with backgrounds, an overall new interactive system to communicate with them. I need the old dialogue boxes no more, i want true immersion
that's a cool thought, as long as i t makes a more immersive game, I'm on board
I am optimistic. Every next Elder Scrolls was a huge step forward. This series is their golden goose. It will be glorious.
Im really trying to stay optimistic too. I hope they include Hammerfell & High Rock in the base game.
It would be awesome if they would try to include as many countries as they can for dlcs as an example. I just think we need something big like this, especially since this might be Todd's last Elder Scrolls game.
It would be cool to see ESO Styled expansions for the game, for extended support if they are looking to support this game for 10+ years.
Every game has some kind of flaw, Fallout 4 is extremely far from being a bad game, much on the contrary, really. Saying Fallout 4 gets criticism for an underwhelming story ark makes no sense at all.
Repetitive gameplay is something very common, even for example in BG3 where basically every choice matters, but still, there is a lot of repetition no matter what, so this about games looking to be less repetitive is pretty new and makes no sense to ask Fallout 4 to be something like BG3.
Bethesta engine is clunky, I'll give you that, but if the new Elder Scrolls give me some of the feeling that Skyrim or Fallout 4 did I will be extremely happy no matter what.
if I also get some of the feeling out of TES6 that I got out of Skyrim or Oblivion I would be pretty happy, Fallout 4 was good but modders made it truly great, thanks to mods iv put over 2000 hours into fallout 4, I guess what i was trying to get at was that if the majority of gamers who play TES6 vastly enjoy there experience and are happy with the game then its a win, my worry is that TES6 might end up like starfield, time will tell
@AegisGamer knock on wood, brother.. If TES6 ends up being like starfield, I'll blame you. Lmao
I think the time is fast approaching, where it would be close to being time to consider starting to worry. And that time is, soon!
I hope at least, Modders and the community will come to its aid, there is always an unofficial patch mod for Bethesda games
So it’s not really the engine it’s the development teams inability to use it that’s why someone could use the engine on star field to make a mod that cut the shaders used in half while improving the graphics and improving the game’s ability run smoothly. So really Bethesda needs too start looking at there best Skyrim moders and consider hiring them and replacing some of there under preforming employees.
they defiantly should
I mean, the elder scrolls five Skyrim is a game people of been playing for decades
probably be played well after TES6 is released too, I wish more good/great games had the same life as skyrim
As long as they keep this engine i will not buy their games. It is as simple as that. I refuse to finance a company refusing to innovate.
I think the engine can be improved, but after starfield it's a bit concerning
Last year has taught me we have to be concerned about everything.
agreed!
After more than a decade yeah the expectations are rightfully high.
they released skyrim way too much, but people were buying it so they were probably disincentivized to make Elder scrolls 6 until they could squeeze all the life out of Skyrim
After Starfirld, I'm not sure they can make it right
I agree, I played starfield for about 7 Hours and couldn't bring myself to continue it, I will probably play it one day again, heavy modded and pushing a 6090 to the max lol
If the story are lore are good, we will accept the janky tech, think oblivion.
If the story and lore aren't good, the jank becomes another nail in the coffin, think starfield.
The single biggest problem is the gap between ES5 and ES6. There's too much expectation now while the company changed too much.
The fans haven't really changed, we know what we want, think fallout london.
Jank was more acceptable for Oblivion because of its age. Its less acceptable today.
I like that, good comment
You mean the biggest concern apart from the fact Bethesda are a woke company and Todd Howard is a visionless hack who is responsible for TES being in stagnation the last 20+ years, with some of the worst narrative writers in the gaming industry? I mean sure, Bethesda create great worlds but they make lousy games.
Wow that's wild. You describing how Bethesda is prioritizing profit over the quality of the games and you call it woke?
If y'all wokeheads could agree on a good definition for this woke word y'all love so much maybe I wouldn't be so gobsmacked to see capitalism described as woke hahaha, *redbone*
@@kingofnorthumbria I gave you a like because you used my favorite word in the English language, "gobsmacked," thank you sir and good day.🤙
@@kingofnorthumbriayeah Most left ppl Like me hate capitalism. But now a days woke Just mean "i dont Like it but cant say why". I mean they called Warhammer 2 woke and wehn you Look at the Lore it is but its a good Game so it cant be woke lol. Same for Baldurs gate, cyberpunk, the Witcher 3 or Skyrim. If you define woke as progressive pro LGBTQ and anti racists These Games are all woke
Bethesda used to create great worlds. The people they had for that have all left. They dont even do that anymore.
@@kingofnorthumbriaWokeness is the forced insertion of modern left wing identity politics. Which we saw in starfield. We also see this in Bethesdas hiring practices.
A little bit optimistic/hopeful but I must admit I am mostly bracing myself for a massive disappointment. The good old days of Morrowind are long gone
My first elder scrolls game was oblivion and yeah you have a point, I don't like getting excited for games and then they end up being very disappointing
Howard wins agian by selling fallout with swords for the third time. It just works
the famous "IT JUST WORKS" i cant believe he said that for 76 and then we played it, ahhh... good times aye
@AegisGamer nope not my money. I seen that train wreck coming.
I mean its been years they probably know its gonna be ass and thats why they are “remaking” Oblivion.
Since when is Bethesda remaking oblivion?
@@devonrickett7692 Since 1 or 2 years ago when microsofts roadmap of games leaked, very old news with other words.
Nah after FO76 and Starfield plus they kept toying ruining FO4 and Skyrim to this day. I dont put any hope to TES6. By the time the game release it would be a permanent seal for bethesda to stick as publishers than being AAA studios. Emil & Todd seems never play any videogames in past 20 years really.
I feel the same way and hope its not the case, I really hope, if they nail 1 thing right, i hope its the modding tools, that way it can be fixed by this brilliant community of modders. Time will tell I guess, thanks for the comment
By the time ES6 comes out- most of the original fan base will be completely out of gaming. Its way too late and the gaming community that embraced ES5 is mostly gone.
Who chose that e? Am I playing elder scrolls or gider scrolls?
It does look really odd lol
Starfield awesome now cant stop playing it.
oh, nice, ill have to give it a go soon, I as waiting to hear good news about it. cheers
What does repetitive gameplay and the story have to do with the Creation Engine? The Technical issues I get but the bread and butter of a good game is purely up to the imagination of those making it. Bethesda will release the game as a buggy mess, but it's always been fine. People enjoy a good game, even with bugs.
I am sure they will fail to release anything new though, Elder Scrolls is a good franchise, and the story may have similar tropes (Waking up as a prisoner) but the real heart of the matter is if they can deliver a truly different experience than the rest.
maybe they should just release the creation engine and let the modding community make the next game, one can dream
Bethesda was dead wehn paid mods came
I never liked paid mods, they were poor quality most of the time for the price point
If you expect ES6 to even be half the quality of ES3, 4 or 5. I have a bridge to sell you.
I sadly and bracing for disappointment with TES6 and am praying that my worry ends up only being just that, time will tell i guess
I thought it was going to be made in unreal 5
Witcher 3 should never be in the same conversation as BG3 or Skyrim for that matter. Pretty game, lousy RPG.
Wow.. This gotta be one the most nonsensical comments of all times.
you can most defiantly put Witcher 3, BG3 and Skyrim in the same conversation, they are all great games in the own way, what I was pointing out is that when Witcher 3 and BG3 release they were in good/great condition and if there were any issues, they were patched and fixed quickly.
I wish more games released it a good/great condition from Day 1, sorry if this was not the message conveyed in the video, ill work on that for next time.
I'm not concerned. I'm tired of everyone being concerned about everything. Play it, don't play it. I don't care. I'm going to play it either way, and I don't give a shit about your concern trolling
"shit about your concern trolling" thanks for watching anyway