@@GrayHughesInvestigates I gave a thumbs up and wrote a comment for the algorithm. I am grateful for being able to listen start to finish without it being broken up by commentary and complaints. When the flow gets broken up, it's harder to follow. I really enjoyed your interviews with SS's friends. Can you interview his parents?
I wrote you a comment for your algorithm but you didn’t like it so now it’s gone and also all others who commented but are not necessarily agreeing with you on JSs innocence 😂😂😂 on the path that led to this tragic event. Mothers like this are everywhere, prioritizing boyfriends and drugs instead of their children
@@ThunderMaiden This comment showed up on my feed. Did he actually delete your comment or did you? Either way, the censorship here when you don't agree is annoying enough to warrant not giving a thumbs up. So I gave your comment a 👍😂
They are actually back now, could be YT glitch IDK 🤷♀️ There was 11, then 5 when I wrote this above now back to 11. That’s a good thing as it is not hateful or offensive. Have noticed the censorship before so was probably getting ahead of myself. Apologies
This man is weird. The way he is talking about this photo that he is visualizing to the point that he makes himself believe that she showed him is very disturbing. I’m starting to think the son got this behavior from him. How does “I didn’t start it” equate to Jenn is involved. Most pedos say the victim came onto them. That’s my thoughts of that statement. That SS is blaming the victim. Whole family is weird af.
@@rebeccaconn7273 absolutely. Watching Jenn’s reactions, body movements and clear lack of emotion to very troubling and heartbreaking revelations is very much telling me she has many mental issues. It is confusing to see so many not catch on or notice it at all to the abnormal actions…. I have 2 family members that have run businesses for decades for those with brain injuries and disabilities that cause them to have an aide guide them thru life, Jenn Soto very much reminds me of the people they care for…. I absolutely do not believe Jenn should have ever been responsible for the wellbeing of anyone, let alone a vulnerable child! She should have never had Maddie in her custody imo. It’s very immature of people to accuse others of “taking sides” or excusing her behaviors , when pointing out the mental issues of Jenn. So much of what I am seeing is not lying or covering up for SS, I just don’t believe she seen the red flags. If she did see any, I believe SS was able to manipulate, gaslight and lie his way very easily into making Jenn believe clear lies.
You know there for me see RED flag with this audio in Chris Sterns. I'm sorry he sounds like a little weasel and his son is one too. Just shut your mouth Chris. Yea an enterprise. Your son worked alone, Jen should have not allows it and kicked that Son of a Bitch which he literally is out of her home and their lives. Jen should be held accountable for child neglect. Your son had packages sent to Jenn's house. They weren't hers, dummy. Your son has a mentality of a 16 year old and is mentally ill I don't feel bad for these parents. Yes things can happen after we raise our children BUT the signs are there what your gonna see struggles in. I did and it wasn't anything g like this however I dealt with it head on. Like procrastination my eldest son had and I worked with him through it. I have three grown men and one grown daughter. Thankfully their all well and I have and still am a Praying parent and I still stay connected to them in their lives so I can see something that needs to be addressed and dealt with because one day they only have each other and God so I will equip them well so when I depart this world I can rest and be assured they will be good. They will swim instead of sink. It's hard being a parent. I mean a good parent. Every parent should be able to lay their head down at night and not need drugs to make them sleep. With attending to our children, modeling g good behavior and values, and guiding and teaching them your exhausted at the end of that day.
Sterns seen on the computer and then suddenly it had no hard drive. An old hard drive was conveniently produced by Sterns father that hasn’t been used since 2020. Clearly the hard drive had been upgraded and they never threw away the original one. The constant purchases while unemployed leads me to believe Sterns was uploading and possibly selling the content on the dark web.
Please tell me this scumbags dad did not say "only if had been smarter about his phone." Wtf??? So he wishes he would have destroyed all the evidence of abuse so he wouldn't be in trouble. I now see who raised this monster. They apparently think he can do any wrong 🤬 SICKENING!!
The father said, an inappropriate relationship with a child. It was far more than inappropriate! Sick, evil and disgusting abise of a child and murder!
I can’t with the two parents. They need to keep their mouths shut, their son is the worst. They are literally enabling him in jail by paying for books and snacks for him, while they are giving this interview and trying to throw Jenn under the bus to try to take some of the grossness away from their son. I would be so ashamed.
Right? Like thanks for sharing 🤷♀️ I mean I guess he isn’t thinking about the whole world listening to that and was just making small talk but yeah he seems like he’s a bit self absorbed
The audacity of Sterns parents is mind boggling. They think they are the law now. We feel she should…. His Dad makes my skin crawl, to bad he didn’t do that to the phone…Jenn did this and Jenn did that. He is chomping at the bits to blame Jenn, he best just worry about his creepy son.
This is how I feel. He thinks he’s such an authority. From what I gathered he’s in real estate and not in law. He was going to be a cop for a while then switched careers bc he wanted to earn more. He’s cheated on his wife living a double life. He and deb paid off someone to get Stephan out of trouble once already. Almost 40 years of age and their son was a big spoiled baby.
I just wonder WHY did he come first day when they told them not to stay in the apartment? If his son had no money to pay for a hotel - u can book a room and pay from far, no need to come with your wallet. I bet he came to elaborate on their story. HE KNEW EVERYTHING AS WELL.
No Chris - Deb said in the interview at your house that the dogs were on high alert at 3:19 - now you're just changing the time to 5:18 because you actually believe you can crack the case with your hard drive / storage unit theory. And you're mask slipped there when you wished Stephan had been more smart with his phone You're disgusting Chris
“Too bad” he wasn’t smart about his phone…. How disgusting! I feel so bad for that precious little girl that had to be around these sick and selfish people
I'd be willing to bet that SS's statement "I didn't start it" was referring to the abuse he committed on Madeline. These scumbags LOVE to justify their actions by blaming the victim. They will claim the child led them on, flirted with them, wanted the abuse. That's what I believe SS meant. He either has convinced himself or is determined to hide behind the idea that Madeline somehow instigated or made the first move. Horrible? Yes. Unconscienable? Absolutely. But that's the sort of thing these monsters say time after time.
And he tries to implicate her right to the end of this interview, revolting family produced a revolting perverted son. They had 5 months to get their heads around what he did and still couldn't accept jen wasn't involved , knowing they had previously paid off someone in the past to cover his perversions from the authorities.
She’s guilty as hell, she tells on herself even. She enabled him, if she was even 1% interested in protecting her daughter she would not send Maddie to sleep with anyone not even family members, but give Madeline her own room and teach her to sleep alone in her own bedroom. She decided to expel her from the room she used to have, in order to sleep with them instead. Disgusting 🤮 She is not that stupid that she didn’t know what was going on
He seems like the sort of man who has to be right about things .. and is clearly far smarter than his son, in his view of himself. And smarter than Police too! He seems to have a very superior view of himself.
I think people who believe Jenn knew or was involved in Sterns’ disgusting crimes, do so because it is hard to believe a grown woman and mother could be that stupid and nonchalant. But she was! Sterns groomed and lied to her like he did to everyone.
She knew. After viewing pictures of SS literally SAing her daughter and her acknowledging this, she tells SS to get a lawyer "now!" and hopes he "invoked" (meaning, didn't speak to LE). She prioritized SS over Maddie even after hard proof right in front of her face. Go watch the interview. Even the detective can't effing believe it. She is a DISGUSTING human.
It's easy for people to judge cause it's not them. It could very well be them and not even know themselves. Heck he was probably drugging Jenn as well. A lot of pedophiles in America. They are everywhere. I forget the stats but it was A LOT! I remember being shocked by the stats.
@tracikonrad3605 I agree with you completely. My heart goes out to her. Not only has she found out that a person she trusted so much was abusing her little girl for so long, but also took her life, she has also had seriously disturbing accusations thrown at her like she played a part in this. She lost her only child in such a horrific manner and has been publicly persecuted by a bunch of delusional, disturbed crazies during the worst time in her life. I hope with this detective stating outright that they don't believe she knew or had anything to do with it will make people see that there was only 1 disgusting piece of crap, and it was Stephan. I hope people show compassion and support for Jenn, she doesn't deserve anything but that.
Sterns seen on the computer and then suddenly it had no hard drive. An old hard drive was conveniently produced by Sterns father that hasn’t been used since 2020. Clearly the hard drive had been upgraded and they never threw away the original one. The constant purchases while unemployed leads me to believe Sterns was uploading and possibly selling the content on the dark web. Hopefully the cops are looking for a crypto wallet key on file somewhere.
Listen to his dad carrying on like he knows everything. He doesn’t know Jack Doodoo saying Jen was there when it took place. How the hell does he know where it took place? His son is a perverted monster, and he knows it and he’s just trying to drag in with him so he can accuse her of messing up his son. This guy wants to do nothing but here his own voice he needs to go away.
First if my life depended on it I couldn't even pretend to be as dumb as jenn soto. Second I would bet my paycheck that if crybaby S.S. could in anyway put some blame on jenn he would have started talking before the second handcuff was even on
How does he just make up that he saw a photo and didn’t want to spend time gazing at it and then said oh maybe I just made it up in my head who makes that up in their head?!
I doubt that this information will change how people look at Jen. They have whipped themselves up into a frothing mass of anger towards her. I watch multiple different channels like this, and honestly it has become quite difficult to sit and listen to the comments. Initially I had serious concerns about Jen and what knowledge she might have, but over time as I tried to keep an open mind, I have gradually come to the place that I believe that while she may have been naive and a bit self-absorbed, I have not felt like she had knowledge of what was occurring with Maddie and I do not believe she was involved in Maddies death. I don't have the mental health issues that Jen has, other that ADD, and I don't take the medications that she is required to take, so I realize I can not assume how someone in her present state should or would react. I may be wrong, but I'm not going to crucify her as many are doing with little to no thought to the fact that she is also a grieving mother.
Thanks! I feel terrible for Jennifer. She had to find out all this out publicly. She wasn't the best or brightest, but I believe she is just as much a victim, and worse, her daughter is gone forever. And she has been judged as guilty in the court of public opinion.
@verynice126 Absolutely agree. But to realize he murdered her, too, when she thought he wouldn't lie to her? I'm not condoning her behavior at all, but I can be kind enough to realize that Jenn is a soul, and I hope that she is not the monster we all think she is.
Chris Sterns seems to want to blame the whole thing on Jenn! Then suggesting a joint criminal enterprise! I thought he came across as quite manipulative …
Can we say enabler? I’m sorry but I don’t care, if my kid did something so disgusting I would want to go into hiding because I would be so damn embarrassed and absolutely horrified. Him and his fishing expedition. “ we feel in our hearts” gimmie a break! Anything, to save their own butt. You helped create this degenerate Mr Sterns. Take some accountability. Stop Tring to control the situation. There’s no criminal enterprise. They aren’t even smart enough for that. Him with his getting caught on camera and her unconscious all the time. Please.
Haha that’s so true. They aren’t smart enough is exactly it. It’s bottom of barrel shite when he’s hoping that his son was using this as a job and not a hobby and interest. Come. On. At that point just drop it and humble yourself sir.
@@EliseDFENS instead you would have a bunch of RUclipsrs stalking you for something you said that was suspicious to them and made you look guilty to them, digging up every imperfections to make sure they could make you look like a monster
His weight? What is he talking about right off the bat. Then the father wonders why his son is a weirdo. The father is a little off himself. He’s there for a missing young woman by the hands of his own pervert son and he wants to lead the subject with bull****….and then continues on to implicate the child’s mother is involved with NO PROOF at all. What a nut! 🥜
This man is trying so hard to be a detective and “crack the case”. He just doesn’t wan his son to go down alone. I think Jen is definitely guilty of something, negligence at the least, but this egotistical idiot isn’t going to solve it.
Yes, they just can't except That their son did this, especially alone. They really want to believe that Jen was a part of it. Hopefully they can accept reality.
This whole “maybe she showed me something on her phone…” the cop did a great job of politely shutting it down. But his dad really cooked up this lie about her showing him pictures on her phone, thinking he’s going to fish for info and implicate her… he seems to think he’s really smart, for being an idiot. Jen is horrible, I’m not defending her, but Stephen’s dad cooking up this “did i imagine that?” Story is so dumb.
But he DID conduct himself in all of the right ways. Even turning over that hard drive to the police. I just don’t think he sees Stephan killing Maddie alone and dumping her body. Even if he was angry with the kid he wasn’t the type to blow up and kill her. I think his dad is right that something happened and he tried to fix it for Jenn. Did Jenn know he was S/Aing her daughter? Of course she did. Maddie wasn’t protecting Sterns all those years, she was protecting her mother. There’s a detectives statement that Jenn knew about the S/A if you want evidence. Or maybe the testimony of a seasoned sex crimes detective doesn’t suffice as evidence in people’s narratives.
What he did do to help with the investigation was the law abiding thing to do. Quite separate from that is his inability to believe that his son is capable of acting alone, he is desperate to believe that someone else helped him. Believing this is their way of not having to face the fact their son is a monster. The interview you’re referring to with the seasoned detective who told Jennifer he didn’t believe she did not know what Stephen was doing to her daughter occurred on March 1st, very early on in the case. After months of additional investigation LE is now stating Jennifer did not know. I get how hard it is for healthy minded normal people like yourself, and the rest of us, to believe she didn’t know. How could she not? What normal parent would fail to see what was going on right under their nose? But, I also think it’s important to remember that nothing she did as a parent is what the rest of us would consider normal.
No law enforcement should EVER give out any information regarding a case. He is allowing Stephens Dad control and spoon feeding him private information that should never be given out. It allows all these people the chance to cover up more of these crimes.
@sabrinalennox2004 he had no job or savings but would have money to spend on whatever he wanted? To have that many photos/videos of these horrific actions and to have money to buy whatever he wanted, I think you may be correct and there may more to this. I don't believe Jenn was involved at all, but there may be others that were paying for the images/videos. That just seems like a ridiculous amount of data documenting the abuse to store. I guess we will find out as the investigation continues.
Why are so many creators breezing past this recording smh? So they only believe in the work of investigative efforts when it aligns with their own beliefs 🤷🏻♀️ This will be another Chris Watts NK, with the never ending theories… RIP Maddie❤
Chris is a liar too and he embellishes and while yes, a lot of this is Jenn‘s fault but he’s really trying to point the finger at Jenn for a lot of things and trying to keep his son innocent. He’s just as bad as his wife. They’re both idiots and they’re bothat fault for raising a spoiled entitled brat who turned out to be a monster. He needs to just shut his mouth.
And the cops clearly tell him there was no such images on Jenn‘s phone. None at all whatsoever. He was so stupidly, dumbfounded that he just sat there, and he had nothing to say. Again, he’s just an embellisher and trying to find ways to point the finger and that’s exactly, what that monster has learned he’s learned it from his parents
Cause they are too busy trying to find JS guilty of something. I personally believe NK had something to do with CW crimes. But I don't believe JS was just letting this man abuse her daughter. Plus everyone blames and stay focused on JS Cause it gets them views.
@@Melli6000 I felt the same way. It was the first time I was at the docket live and I had to just leave. It was killing me. It was the first time I ever heard this individual and he was quite rude and would just go on and on. I couldn’t take it anymore and it was pretty disappointing. I love this channel and plunder . They are both my favorites as well as JAI from that crimes channel she’s amazing. It’s just fun. They have a lot of fun with the audience and to me serious as enough as it is topics and it’s great when they can have a little fun with the audience but they also talk so nice about other channels. That’s why I love them. Thank you, Gray for all that you do.
That's fd up that his folks are trying to put it on Jen... literally telling delusional lies...they have to be in denial. One thing after another..They care more about what his charges are than Maddie 😢
Jen said Stephen was stealing money out of his parents closet and buying stuff online. Dad still hasn’t figured out that his son was stealing from him to buy things that he was having delivered to his house.😂
When Chris claimed that stephan said "well, i didn't start it", i think staphan was talking about maddie, not Jennifer. Pedophiles always blame their victims.
SS’s daddy just likes the sound of his own voice and has tried to lead this investigation from the get go. Your son isn’t talking because he is GUILTY as sin. Jenn may be clueless, too-trusting and/or negligent but contrary to many on social media, I do not believe JS had any knowledge of what this perverted despicable man was doing to her daughter for the last 5 years. Really tired of everyone but LE insisting that she did. I am certain that LE has investigated every aspect of this from the very beginning and I choose to believe LE and not social media rants.
I totally agree with you. Jen is just a tuned out, oblivious person and probably due to all the drugs she takes. She throws out names like ADD and bipolar like it’s the flu.
Thank you for not jumping on the same JS bandwagon as every other true crime channel I’ve watched till I came across yours last night. I’ve been watching the others and the whole time feeling like they’re victim blaming Jenn when I genuinely feel and see she was not involved nor knew what was going on. Although I think she is too trusting, I also think she didn’t do that because something is wrong with her but bc SS was grooming both of them. Have you ever heard the Jan Broberg story? When this came out a few years ago people were saying the same thing about her parents.. but they were also being groomed by him and were by nature trusting people who had no reason to feel any other way prior to finding out. We’re all human and I truly believe we all could be in this position in one way or another and blindsided by someone we never dreamed would hurt us or our children! 💔 that’s why they’re called “predators” and I hope JS is going through extensive counseling right now so that she can navigate through this given her mental health issues. I can’t imagine what she’s going through.
This man is in denial that his sicko creep of a son could commit such horrendous acts & murder. Yes, Jen' made some insane choices that put her daughter in harms way but she is not to blame in this
I’m very confused at the part when he said the only savings he had was from his dad‘s inheritance that he blew through. I thought this was his dad in the interview. I’m so confused.
@@NatlovesJesus1 it’s just weird you would’ve thought by now we would’ve heard that it wasn’t his real dad like this wouldn’t be the first time we were hearing it- I don’t know
Jen may not have known about the murder but all of the things different about that night and next day she admitted was suspicious. Yet she still defended and was making excuses for Stephan. What kind of mother wouldn’t be interrogating her boyfriend after Maddie missing and all of the sus actions going on. ??? Minimally her turning the “other way” not protecting her daughter should be a crime!
Enhanced audio!! Brilliant Grey! 😂 It may not go down too well with certain people, but it's hard to get upset at your own words. Cognitive dissonance is strong 😂
Did you people listen to what this investigator said? Endangerment is if the person knew ahead of time that a person had a background of violence or SA. Sterns had no criminal history. It has come out, and I quote, ""Jennifer Soto has done nothing criminal so far, so she will not face charges." That is from WFTV channel 9 news Aug 22, 2024. Up to Aug 22 she has done nothing criminal.
The police in this video says there is no evidence she was involved or knew. I don’t think we want to set a precedent for charging parents who miss signs that their child is being abused.
I know the parents are glad their errant son is locked up for life. Now they don’t have to deal with his inability to support himself. I bet their boy even likes being in jail because he gets to be lazy and eat junk all day.
What an odd statement from the dad🤔when he said too bad he didn't delete the stuff on his phone?? Like wtf you wanted him to get away with raping a child???🤬🤬😡
The officer said he couldn’t find anything that shows Jenn’s knowledge of the SA… Yet we all know about the “Mady’s not sleeping with me anymore, I can’t risk it” text Jenn sent… Not to mention the text to Mady’s dad about video-ing under bathroom doors. Not to mention her inconsistencies. And a million other things. I don’t think this officer’s opinion means anything about Jenn’s knowledge of the SA based on what we already know from our own eyes and ears.
That's not exactly what she said she said Maddie can't sleep me because I have to be at work can't risk missing work because she started a new job see they only let you what they want and then it comes out differently and you already know that when it comes to utubers wanted to feed the trolls get it trollls
@@tracikonrad3605You’re not referring to the same thing. JS sent SS a text stating MS could not sleep with her any more and that she couldn’t risk it. That text was a year prior to MS death. JS was asked in an interview what she meant by that text and she didn’t have an answer. I don’t remember her saying anything about a job. According to JS, she had no memory what she meant by the text.
You don’t know what that means. You’re assuming it’s about the sexual abuse. Police saw that message plus the context of what it was about and still say she didn’t know so it seems pretty obvious that’s not what it was about.
2:25 I listened as creators discussed whether or not the journal pictured in police photos was Jenn or Maddie’s writing. The journal referenced mental struggles associated with trauma by a “perpetrator.” This wide frame pic shows that the journal was found in Maddie’s makeshift room in the living room. So very, very heartbreaking. 💔
Umm the only images he could have seen would have been FROM satan sterns. So are you in deeper than you've been found out to be, gramps? He sure was there to throw jen under the bus!! Also-- He said ss got inheritance from his "father" so was this an adopted father???
Chris Sterns has a point about Jennifer being shown images of what Stephan was doing to Maddie and in the presence of Chris had no vile reaction towards Stephan, or Chris, and reacted by instead telling Chris he needed to get Stephan a lawyer. Even the cops call her out on this in an on camera interview, and think she is lying.
I caught the "cell phone" comment and it made me wonder where the missing hard drive went. Makes me wonder if mom wasn't doing more covering. The dad mentioned in the other interview that when they cleaned Stephan's room, dad went through the computer, in that room, and brought it to storage or the garage. I guess they lost the hard drive during the transfer.
Have you seen the Jennifer Soto interview where she admits she wanted to help him get a lawyer even after she had been shown pictures of the sexual abuse occurring? She may not have “known” but WTH! Who would want to help the perpetrator of her daughter get an attorney after she had been shown proof of the abuse!
I think all the sterns family like to tell lies. To make themselves look better then everyone else. Cause I don’t know if you all caught stephens mom said maddy called Stephen and wanted him to come to her birthday and she said she ordered maddy something from Amazon but then she said she had some thing at home that she just gave Stephen to take to Maddie so she’s a liar there now his dad‘s lying here and y’all know how Stephen lies all the time
I see so many comments of people who do not see the red flags about JS. I fear for these people's children, because if someone can't see the red flags here, then they won't see the red flags in their own life, and in their own children's lives. 🤦🏻♀️ Also, people are bashing SS father, but he is merely sharing the opinion that so many of us have about JS. SS father is not the one who committed the crimes against Maddie, and he also was not the one who allowed these crimes to take place by sending Maddie off alone at night with SS-that was Jen. One of the opinions he shared is that he believes they were selling the CSAM material found on SS phone. I have been saying that from the beginning. SS was definitely at least sharing this material with others online, if not selling it, but I truly believe he was making profits from it.
What would u do if it was your son. You can't blame the parents. Dad did make one mistake. But then ask am I imagining I saw a picture from Jen's phone. Then said ok, He helped police bust his son.
Just to add some content; I just got Matt Murphy’s book, The Book of Murder. In his introduction he talks about not prosecuting someone who is innocent. “ The prosecutor, for lack of better term, is the good guy. Before the case is even filed, the prosecutor acts as a sort of mini judge-not a rubber stamp for the police, but a totally independent decision-maker objectively and skeptically reviewing the evidence and moving forward only if they are totally and without a doubt convinced that the suspect did it, as well as that the admissible evidence is persuasive enough to convince a jury”
Is that background conversations (I hear a woman distinctively) actually going on during the interview? Or was this a convo picked up at a different time entirely when recorded? Surely they wouldn't conduct such an important conversation with that much background noise?????
would be great if you guys would at least hit the like button when you come in. Pretty easy.
@@GrayHughesInvestigates I gave a thumbs up and wrote a comment for the algorithm. I am grateful for being able to listen start to finish without it being broken up by commentary and complaints. When the flow gets broken up, it's harder to follow.
I really enjoyed your interviews with SS's friends. Can you interview his parents?
I wrote you a comment for your algorithm but you didn’t like it so now it’s gone and also all others who commented but are not necessarily agreeing with you on JSs innocence 😂😂😂 on the path that led to this tragic event. Mothers like this are everywhere, prioritizing boyfriends and drugs instead of their children
@@ThunderMaiden This comment showed up on my feed. Did he actually delete your comment or did you? Either way, the censorship here when you don't agree is annoying enough to warrant not giving a thumbs up. So I gave your comment a 👍😂
@@just.joolie thank you 😂❤️
Edit: forgot to answer lol, yes at least 6 other comments on the same thread too
They are actually back now, could be YT glitch IDK 🤷♀️ There was 11, then 5 when I wrote this above now back to 11. That’s a good thing as it is not hateful or offensive. Have noticed the censorship before so was probably getting ahead of myself. Apologies
This man is weird. The way he is talking about this photo that he is visualizing to the point that he makes himself believe that she showed him is very disturbing. I’m starting to think the son got this behavior from him. How does “I didn’t start it” equate to Jenn is involved. Most pedos say the victim came onto them. That’s my thoughts of that statement. That SS is blaming the victim. Whole family is weird af.
Exactly!
No, when stephan said "he didn't start it", im sure he was referring to MADDIE starting it, just like every other predator, blaming the child
It's absolutely infuriating when I hear these sicko's claim that a prepubescent child started it. FFS
Exactly 🤬
I believe Jen was targeted due to her mental issues by Stephan. Not a popular opinion, but happens all the time! Thanks for the video, Grey!
@@rebeccaconn7273 absolutely. Watching Jenn’s reactions, body movements and clear lack of emotion to very troubling and heartbreaking revelations is very much telling me she has many mental issues. It is confusing to see so many not catch on or notice it at all to the abnormal actions…. I have 2 family members that have run businesses for decades for those with brain injuries and disabilities that cause them to have an aide guide them thru life, Jenn Soto very much reminds me of the people they care for…. I absolutely do not believe Jenn should have ever been responsible for the wellbeing of anyone, let alone a vulnerable child! She should have never had Maddie in her custody imo.
It’s very immature of people to accuse others of “taking sides” or excusing her behaviors , when pointing out the mental issues of Jenn. So much of what I am seeing is not lying or covering up for SS, I just don’t believe she seen the red flags. If she did see any, I believe SS was able to manipulate, gaslight and lie his way very easily into making Jenn believe clear lies.
I agree. He groomed Jen , too.
I agree 100%.
I’m a mental health nurse and I 100% agree
❤ from Australia
Yes ma’am! That woman is/was stupid. But she did not know…shame!
Pathetic! His father is absolutely pathetic. Still trying to make excuses and bail his son out.
It’s easy to see the mistakes of others.
especially when they're blasted all over the internet bc enabled their son to become a monster
@@darrellhicks360 very easy to see the mistakes of Jenn And Stephan. IMO Jenn is just as Guilty!
He didn’t start it? Maddie was 8 years old when this started, he’s disgusting, Mr Sterns is a liar, he didn’t see a photo from Jenn’s phone
His parents are absolutely unfeeling and bizarre. The apple doesn’t fall from the insane tree.
The child approaching a father figure was what started «it», ironically.
SS perverted it to suit his own needs, not that of the child.
You know there for me see RED flag with this audio in Chris Sterns. I'm sorry he sounds like a little weasel and his son is one too. Just shut your mouth Chris. Yea an enterprise. Your son worked alone, Jen should have not allows it and kicked that Son of a Bitch which he literally is out of her home and their lives. Jen should be held accountable for child neglect. Your son had packages sent to Jenn's house. They weren't hers, dummy. Your son has a mentality of a 16 year old and is mentally ill I don't feel bad for these parents. Yes things can happen after we raise our children BUT the signs are there what your gonna see struggles in. I did and it wasn't anything g like this however I dealt with it head on. Like procrastination my eldest son had and I worked with him through it. I have three grown men and one grown daughter. Thankfully their all well and I have and still am a Praying parent and I still stay connected to them in their lives so I can see something that needs to be addressed and dealt with because one day they only have each other and God so I will equip them well so when I depart this world I can rest and be assured they will be good. They will swim instead of sink. It's hard being a parent. I mean a good parent. Every parent should be able to lay their head down at night and not need drugs to make them sleep. With attending to our children, modeling g good behavior and values, and guiding and teaching them your exhausted at the end of that day.
. Wuuuuuuuuuut??? 🤪
@@SigMaQuintPeople here don't see the sarcasm. You need to indicate that. Maybe put (sarc) at the end? Or eyeroll up image?
Sterns seen on the computer and then suddenly it had no hard drive. An old hard drive was conveniently produced by Sterns father that hasn’t been used since 2020. Clearly the hard drive had been upgraded and they never threw away the original one. The constant purchases while unemployed leads me to believe Sterns was uploading and possibly selling the content on the dark web.
Please tell me this scumbags dad did not say "only if had been smarter about his phone." Wtf??? So he wishes he would have destroyed all the evidence of abuse so he wouldn't be in trouble. I now see who raised this monster. They apparently think he can do any wrong 🤬 SICKENING!!
@@Moonlotusdesigns 30,000 photos of him with little Maddie. What a sick F he is.
@@laurinnnn absolutely 💯 🤢
The father said, an inappropriate relationship with a child. It was far more than inappropriate! Sick, evil and disgusting abise of a child and murder!
*abuse
I can’t with the two parents. They need to keep their mouths shut, their son is the worst. They are literally enabling him in jail by paying for books and snacks for him, while they are giving this interview and trying to throw Jenn under the bus to try to take some of the grossness away from their son. I would be so ashamed.
Chris irritated me immediately when he said hes down 70 pounds. Omg who cares
He irritated me from the first time he opened his mouth. He thinks his son is so perfect.
He’s a windbag that thinks his voice and opinion matters way more than it does! Can’t stand him.
Right? Like thanks for sharing 🤷♀️ I mean I guess he isn’t thinking about the whole world listening to that and was just making small talk but yeah he seems like he’s a bit self absorbed
Isn’t that what he wants? He got gastric bypass surgery.
@@heartsmyfaceforever8140 he’s on those shots.
The audacity of Sterns parents is mind boggling. They think they are the law now. We feel she should…. His Dad makes my skin crawl, to bad he didn’t do that to the phone…Jenn did this and Jenn did that. He is chomping at the bits to blame Jenn, he best just worry about his creepy son.
This is how I feel. He thinks he’s such an authority. From what I gathered he’s in real estate and not in law. He was going to be a cop for a while then switched careers bc he wanted to earn more. He’s cheated on his wife living a double life. He and deb paid off someone to get Stephan out of trouble once already. Almost 40 years of age and their son was a big spoiled baby.
@@paisley1134 Agreed....especially the skin crawling
Right?! He just blatantly said so... "Too bad he didn't clear the phone" 😮😮😮 that's how bad people are made, by that type of parents 😭
I just wonder WHY did he come first day when they told them not to stay in the apartment? If his son had no money to pay for a hotel - u can book a room and pay from far, no need to come with your wallet. I bet he came to elaborate on their story. HE KNEW EVERYTHING AS WELL.
@bambinaforever1402 Yes, I wondered
No Chris - Deb said in the interview at your house that the dogs were on high alert at 3:19 - now you're just changing the time to 5:18 because you actually believe you can crack the case with your hard drive / storage unit theory.
And you're mask slipped there when you wished Stephan had been more smart with his phone
You're disgusting Chris
I thought that was a very strange comment as well
They know the TRUTH about everything. I wish they would come clean
Wow! So many revelations!
@@pringledingle3180😱 I just heard him say that . RIP Maddie ❤️
Haha!
“Too bad” he wasn’t smart about his phone….
How disgusting!
I feel so bad for that precious little girl that had to be around these sick and selfish people
Scary that Chris Sterns was a cop, he sure jumps to a lot of conclusions.
Ikr
I'd be willing to bet that SS's statement "I didn't start it" was referring to the abuse he committed on Madeline. These scumbags LOVE to justify their actions by blaming the victim. They will claim the child led them on, flirted with them, wanted the abuse. That's what I believe SS meant. He either has convinced himself or is determined to hide behind the idea that Madeline somehow instigated or made the first move. Horrible? Yes. Unconscienable? Absolutely. But that's the sort of thing these monsters say time after time.
I agree. I said that on a live stream. He is going to blame maddie
And that she didn’t stop me, so she liked it
Daddy Sterns “30K images … amazing “ No sir that’s gross ! This is the 4th time I’ve listened to him trying to implicate Jennifer 😡🇬🇧
And he tries to implicate her right to the end of this interview, revolting family produced a revolting perverted son. They had 5 months to get their heads around what he did and still couldn't accept jen wasn't involved , knowing they had previously paid off someone in the past to cover his perversions from the authorities.
@BlissSister oh wow eww
He is desperate to make Jenn guilty . He worry’s about finding his 38 yr old son a career. That entire family is warped in the head.
She’s guilty as hell, she tells on herself even. She enabled him, if she was even 1% interested in protecting her daughter she would not send Maddie to sleep with anyone not even family members, but give Madeline her own room and teach her to sleep alone in her own bedroom. She decided to expel her from the room she used to have, in order to sleep with them instead. Disgusting 🤮 She is not that stupid that she didn’t know what was going on
@@paisley1134 That Sterns family are all very sick and dysfunctional.🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
I am glad that they made Sterns‘ dad understand how guilty he is. It is difficult to imagine what the father must be feeling and thinking after this.
Wow the dad is creepy. What if dad took the hard drive out of the computer.
Yea he is. He nearly seems proud of his son in a ghastly way.
@@baddie1shoe so sick...
What if he gave cops an old random hard drive instead. That had not been used since 2020.
He seems like the sort of man who has to be right about things .. and is clearly far smarter than his son, in his view of himself. And smarter than Police too! He seems to have a very superior view of himself.
@@amandajohnson-williams7718 yes. You can tell Debbie thinks herself clever as well.These two together-insufferable.
They wanted it to be Jenn’s fault so bad so they could make it not be their sick a** son’s fault.
Jenn has faults too not just Stephan . She was definitely not the mother she should’ve been. Pathetic!!’
I think Stephan sold those images too. But that did not include Jennifer
I agree!
I think people who believe Jenn knew or was involved in Sterns’ disgusting crimes, do so because it is hard to believe a grown woman and mother could be that stupid and nonchalant. But she was! Sterns groomed and lied to her like he did to everyone.
She knew. After viewing pictures of SS literally SAing her daughter and her acknowledging this, she tells SS to get a lawyer "now!" and hopes he "invoked" (meaning, didn't speak to LE).
She prioritized SS over Maddie even after hard proof right in front of her face. Go watch the interview. Even the detective can't effing believe it. She is a DISGUSTING human.
It's easy for people to judge cause it's not them. It could very well be them and not even know themselves. Heck he was probably drugging Jenn as well. A lot of pedophiles in America. They are everywhere. I forget the stats but it was A LOT! I remember being shocked by the stats.
I won't say stupid or nonchalant SS was drugging both of them and if you think for one second she's not heartbroken your a troll
@tracikonrad3605 I agree with you completely. My heart goes out to her. Not only has she found out that a person she trusted so much was abusing her little girl for so long, but also took her life, she has also had seriously disturbing accusations thrown at her like she played a part in this. She lost her only child in such a horrific manner and has been publicly persecuted by a bunch of delusional, disturbed crazies during the worst time in her life. I hope with this detective stating outright that they don't believe she knew or had anything to do with it will make people see that there was only 1 disgusting piece of crap, and it was Stephan. I hope people show compassion and support for Jenn, she doesn't deserve anything but that.
People are acting like he was a casual boyfriend. They had been together for 7 years. Half of Maddie’s life.
Wow, packages were arriving daily, but Stephan had no money??!!! He was stealing from you!!! 🙄
Sterns seen on the computer and then suddenly it had no hard drive. An old hard drive was conveniently produced by Sterns father that hasn’t been used since 2020. Clearly the hard drive had been upgraded and they never threw away the original one. The constant purchases while unemployed leads me to believe Sterns was uploading and possibly selling the content on the dark web. Hopefully the cops are looking for a crypto wallet key on file somewhere.
Listen to his dad carrying on like he knows everything. He doesn’t know Jack Doodoo saying Jen was there when it took place. How the hell does he know where it took place? His son is a perverted monster, and he knows it and he’s just trying to drag in with him so he can accuse her of messing up his son. This guy wants to do nothing but here his own voice he needs to go away.
First if my life depended on it I couldn't even pretend to be as dumb as jenn soto. Second I would bet my paycheck that if crybaby S.S. could in anyway put some blame on jenn he would have started talking before the second handcuff was even on
How does he just make up that he saw a photo and didn’t want to spend time gazing at it and then said oh maybe I just made it up in my head who makes that up in their head?!
I doubt that this information will change how people look at Jen. They have whipped themselves up into a frothing mass of anger towards her. I watch multiple different channels like this, and honestly it has become quite difficult to sit and listen to the comments. Initially I had serious concerns about Jen and what knowledge she might have, but over time as I tried to keep an open mind, I have gradually come to the place that I believe that while she may have been naive and a bit self-absorbed, I have not felt like she had knowledge of what was occurring with Maddie and I do not believe she was involved in Maddies death. I don't have the mental health issues that Jen has, other that ADD, and I don't take the medications that she is required to take, so I realize I can not assume how someone in her present state should or would react. I may be wrong, but I'm not going to crucify her as many are doing with little to no thought to the fact that she is also a grieving mother.
Thanks! I feel terrible for Jennifer. She had to find out all this out publicly. She wasn't the best or brightest, but I believe she is just as much a victim, and worse, her daughter is gone forever. And she has been judged as guilty in the court of public opinion.
There is no excuse for sending your daughter to sleep with your sometimes boyfriend. No ma’am.
@verynice126 Absolutely agree. But to realize he murdered her, too, when she thought he wouldn't lie to her? I'm not condoning her behavior at all, but I can be kind enough to realize that Jenn is a soul, and I hope that she is not the monster we all think she is.
Chris Sterns seems to want to blame the whole thing on Jenn! Then suggesting a joint criminal enterprise! I thought he came across as quite manipulative …
Can we say enabler? I’m sorry but I don’t care, if my kid did something so disgusting I would want to go into hiding because I would be so damn embarrassed and absolutely horrified. Him and his fishing expedition. “ we feel in our hearts” gimmie a break! Anything, to save their own butt. You helped create this degenerate Mr Sterns. Take some accountability. Stop Tring to control the situation. There’s no criminal enterprise. They aren’t even smart enough for that. Him with his getting caught on camera and her unconscious all the time. Please.
Haha that’s so true. They aren’t smart enough is exactly it. It’s bottom of barrel shite when he’s hoping that his son was using this as a job and not a hobby and interest. Come. On. At that point just drop it and humble yourself sir.
@@EliseDFENS instead you would have a bunch of RUclipsrs stalking you for something you said that was suspicious to them and made you look guilty to them, digging up every imperfections to make sure they could make you look like a monster
@@ThunderMaiden what? I have no idea what you are even talking about. Nobody is stalking anyone.
His weight? What is he talking about right off the bat. Then the father wonders why his son is a weirdo. The father is a little off himself. He’s there for a missing young woman by the hands of his own pervert son and he wants to lead the subject with bull****….and then continues on to implicate the child’s mother is involved with NO PROOF at all. What a nut! 🥜
Wow, Stephen truly is this man’s offspring.
This man is trying so hard to be a detective and “crack the case”. He just doesn’t wan his son to go down alone. I think Jen is definitely guilty of something, negligence at the least, but this egotistical idiot isn’t going to solve it.
He truly is a moron.
It amazes me how much he knows about his son's activities, and yet he still believes whatever ss.Tells him.
Dad really trying to blame JS.
Dad wants Jen involved ssssoooo bad!!
So does a lot of the public 🙄
I think she’s Guilty as well. Too many red flags to miss.
Yes, they just can't except That their son did this, especially alone. They really want to believe that Jen was a part of it.
Hopefully they can accept reality.
I think he is basically talking about the murder, not the SA. Not that it makes any difference.
Thank you
Thank you for posting this video because I can hear it much better
He's trying real hard to find JS guilty of something.
Because she is...
Who sees a picture of her daughter being molested and wants to get the molester a lawyer?
Sick devious women.
This whole “maybe she showed me something on her phone…” the cop did a great job of politely shutting it down. But his dad really cooked up this lie about her showing him pictures on her phone, thinking he’s going to fish for info and implicate her… he seems to think he’s really smart, for being an idiot. Jen is horrible, I’m not defending her, but Stephen’s dad cooking up this “did i imagine that?” Story is so dumb.
His dad and mom are disgustingly the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree
Dad wasn't around much for stefans childhood
Busy having 15 plus year affair with snother woman or man
The dad wants to be liked as well, like he's a buddy w/ the detectives
sickening...
But he DID conduct himself in all of the right ways. Even turning over that hard drive to the police. I just don’t think he sees Stephan killing Maddie alone and dumping her body. Even if he was angry with the kid he wasn’t the type to blow up and kill her. I think his dad is right that something happened and he tried to fix it for Jenn. Did Jenn know he was S/Aing her daughter? Of course she did. Maddie wasn’t protecting Sterns all those years, she was protecting her mother. There’s a detectives statement that Jenn knew about the S/A if you want evidence. Or maybe the testimony of a seasoned sex crimes detective doesn’t suffice as evidence in people’s narratives.
What he did do to help with the investigation was the law abiding thing to do. Quite separate from that is his inability to believe that his son is capable of acting alone, he is desperate to believe that someone else helped him. Believing this is their way of not having to face the fact their son is a monster.
The interview you’re referring to with the seasoned detective who told Jennifer he didn’t believe she did not know what Stephen was doing to her daughter occurred on March 1st, very early on in the case. After months of additional investigation LE is now stating Jennifer did not know. I get how hard it is for healthy minded normal people like yourself, and the rest of us, to believe she didn’t know. How could she not? What normal parent would fail to see what was going on right under their nose?
But, I also think it’s important to remember that nothing she did as a parent is what the rest of us would consider normal.
No law enforcement should EVER give out any information regarding a case. He is allowing Stephens Dad control and spoon feeding him private information that should never be given out. It allows all these people the chance to cover up more of these crimes.
That Jen woman was so drug up she didn't care what was happening to her daughter
Many feel that because of the sheer enormity of photos , they were being sold. It's not just Chris Sterns
@sabrinalennox2004 he had no job or savings but would have money to spend on whatever he wanted? To have that many photos/videos of these horrific actions and to have money to buy whatever he wanted, I think you may be correct and there may more to this. I don't believe Jenn was involved at all, but there may be others that were paying for the images/videos. That just seems like a ridiculous amount of data documenting the abuse to store. I guess we will find out as the investigation continues.
If he was selling images the police will be able to track it. You can’t hide SS 🤓 creep 🤮
Dad’s casual-sounding tone really bugged me in this 🤢
Why are so many creators breezing past this recording smh? So they only believe in the work of investigative efforts when it aligns with their own beliefs 🤷🏻♀️ This will be another Chris Watts NK, with the never ending theories… RIP Maddie❤
I don't know. this recording gives the answers that so many had. Notice not many people even watch this one. weird stuff.
Chris is a liar too and he embellishes and while yes, a lot of this is Jenn‘s fault but he’s really trying to point the finger at Jenn for a lot of things and trying to keep his son innocent. He’s just as bad as his wife. They’re both idiots and they’re bothat fault for raising a spoiled entitled brat who turned out to be a monster. He needs to just shut his mouth.
And the cops clearly tell him there was no such images on Jenn‘s phone. None at all whatsoever. He was so stupidly, dumbfounded that he just sat there, and he had nothing to say. Again, he’s just an embellisher and trying to find ways to point the finger and that’s exactly, what that monster has learned he’s learned it from his parents
Cause they are too busy trying to find JS guilty of something. I personally believe NK had something to do with CW crimes. But I don't believe JS was just letting this man abuse her daughter. Plus everyone blames and stay focused on JS Cause it gets them views.
@@Melli6000
I felt the same way. It was the first time I was at the docket live and I had to just leave. It was killing me. It was the first time I ever heard this individual and he was quite rude and would just go on and on. I couldn’t take it anymore and it was pretty disappointing. I love this channel and plunder . They are both my favorites as well as JAI from that crimes channel she’s amazing. It’s just fun. They have a lot of fun with the audience and to me serious as enough as it is topics and it’s great when they can have a little fun with the audience but they also talk so nice about other channels. That’s why I love them. Thank you, Gray for all that you do.
“I don’t start it” I believe he means that Madeleine started it - which is vile
That's fd up that his folks are trying to put it on Jen... literally telling delusional lies...they have to be in denial. One thing after another..They care more about what his charges are than Maddie 😢
These parents are relentless. I have no sympathy for them now that I see that they refuse to accept the facts that SS acted alone.
Jennifer seems to be negligent or oblivious but not the one directly responsible for her daughter’s death.
She knew about the sex. I could believe she wasn't aware of the murder.
Jen said Stephen was stealing money out of his parents closet and buying stuff online. Dad still hasn’t figured out that his son was stealing from him to buy things that he was having delivered to his house.😂
When Chris claimed that stephan said "well, i didn't start it", i think staphan was talking about maddie, not Jennifer. Pedophiles always blame their victims.
SS’s daddy just likes the sound of his own voice and has tried to lead this investigation from the get go. Your son isn’t talking because he is GUILTY as sin. Jenn may be clueless, too-trusting and/or negligent but contrary to many on social media, I do not believe JS had any knowledge of what this perverted despicable man was doing to her daughter for the last 5 years. Really tired of everyone but LE insisting that she did. I am certain that LE has investigated every aspect of this from the very beginning and I choose to believe LE and not social media rants.
So do I
100% agree with you
Right! Plus the public and internet are not always right anyway. I don't believe she knew either
I totally agree with you. Jen is just a tuned out, oblivious person and probably due to all the drugs she takes. She throws out names like ADD and bipolar like it’s the flu.
I don’t see how she deemed it appropriate to let them sleep together, but I guess she made mistakes
Thanks for the update!!!
“Too bad he wasn’t smart enough about the phone”
Detective you're supposed to say. I make the questions.
Yeah, it was strange how many details that he told Chris. Isn't he supposed to say "confidential....ongoing investigation...."
He's fishing he's such a lier. He got busted by the detective.
That parents of these predators and k*llers are so upsetting to me. They never hold their kids accountable. It’s never their fault. Disgusting.
Stephan’s dad is so down the rabbit hole of denial it’s criminal. “Your 37 year old son is a pedo. “ Perhaps you should NOT have been an enabler!
I think SS went to storage unit and destroyed the missing hard drive
This video needs more views. It’s the answers ppl have been waiting for!
Thank you for not jumping on the same JS bandwagon as every other true crime channel I’ve watched till I came across yours last night. I’ve been watching the others and the whole time feeling like they’re victim blaming Jenn when I genuinely feel and see she was not involved nor knew what was going on. Although I think she is too trusting, I also think she didn’t do that because something is wrong with her but bc SS was grooming both of them. Have you ever heard the Jan Broberg story? When this came out a few years ago people were saying the same thing about her parents.. but they were also being groomed by him and were by nature trusting people who had no reason to feel any other way prior to finding out. We’re all human and I truly believe we all could be in this position in one way or another and blindsided by someone we never dreamed would hurt us or our children! 💔 that’s why they’re called “predators” and I hope JS is going through extensive counseling right now so that she can navigate through this given her mental health issues. I can’t imagine what she’s going through.
Watching from beginning! ❤
@@Vcaser same here
This man is in denial that his sicko creep of a son could commit such horrendous acts & murder. Yes, Jen' made some insane choices that put her daughter in harms way but she is not to blame in this
How annoying the ppl in the back talking so loud in the middle of this interview 😩
Sooo many red flags with the dad
Love the weight update!!
Chris only seems concerned about the images not the actual abuse. Something is wrong.
Sounds like he was getting off on them too ! Sick F**k !
Thanks Gray
How do you accuse jenn of being the criminal mastermind with a straight face
Lolzzzz good comment
I’m very confused at the part when he said the only savings he had was from his dad‘s inheritance that he blew through. I thought this was his dad in the interview. I’m so confused.
Maybe not his real dad. Idk
@@NatlovesJesus1
it’s just weird you would’ve thought by now we would’ve heard that it wasn’t his real dad like this wouldn’t be the first time we were hearing it- I don’t know
He's his stepdad.
It was Chris Sterns father that left him money. His Grandfather. Chris Sterns miss spoke.
@@kellyschultz485
Oh -thank you!
Jen may not have known about the murder but all of the things different about that night and next day she admitted was suspicious. Yet she still defended and was making excuses for Stephan. What kind of mother wouldn’t be interrogating her boyfriend after Maddie missing and all of the sus actions going on. ???
Minimally her turning the “other way” not protecting her daughter should be a crime!
My guess is either somebody did something like that to him as a child or his brain is just completely completely wired wrong
Something 100% happened to Stefan as a child. He was not protected either
Enhanced audio!!
Brilliant Grey! 😂
It may not go down too well with certain people, but it's hard to get upset at your own words.
Cognitive dissonance is strong 😂
Thank you finally someone gets it.Jenn is not the MONSTER.
You open your eyes and protect your child. The only way I give her any grace is if she grew up abused by her father and no one ever intervened.
So, is Chris Sterns not Stephan's biological father?
Chris Sterns is his father
When he was talking about the inheritance I think he said father, but meant his (Chris) father
@@sabcb Maybe he knew the interview would be public and was trying to make people think Stephan was not his bio child. I wouldn't blame him one bit.
@@AustinB.3322 quite possibly lol
@@AustinB.3322no. We misspeak all day long
She should be accountable for her actions and child endangerment!
Oh, I Pray that LE is putting a case together ..
How's it child endangerment , in Jenn part ?
Did you people listen to what this investigator said? Endangerment is if the person knew ahead of time that a person had a background of violence or SA. Sterns had no criminal history. It has come out, and I quote, ""Jennifer Soto has done nothing criminal so far, so she will not face charges." That is from WFTV channel 9 news Aug 22, 2024. Up to Aug 22 she has done nothing criminal.
@@tracikonrad3605please tell me you’re honestly not this unintelligent
The police in this video says there is no evidence she was involved or knew. I don’t think we want to set a precedent for charging parents who miss signs that their child is being abused.
I know the parents are glad their errant son is locked up for life. Now they don’t have to deal with his inability to support himself. I bet their boy even likes being in jail because he gets to be lazy and eat junk all day.
What an odd statement from the dad🤔when he said too bad he didn't delete the stuff on his phone?? Like wtf you wanted him to get away with raping a child???🤬🤬😡
The officer said he couldn’t find anything that shows Jenn’s knowledge of the SA… Yet we all know about the “Mady’s not sleeping with me anymore, I can’t risk it” text Jenn sent…
Not to mention the text to Mady’s dad about video-ing under bathroom doors. Not to mention her inconsistencies. And a million other things. I don’t think this officer’s opinion means anything about Jenn’s knowledge of the SA based on what we already know from our own eyes and ears.
That's not exactly what she said she said Maddie can't sleep me because I have to be at work can't risk missing work because she started a new job see they only let you what they want and then it comes out differently and you already know that when it comes to utubers wanted to feed the trolls get it trollls
@@tracikonrad3605You’re not referring to the same thing. JS sent SS a text stating MS could not sleep with her any more and that she couldn’t risk it. That text was a year prior to MS death. JS was asked in an interview what she meant by that text and she didn’t have an answer. I don’t remember her saying anything about a job. According to JS, she had no memory what she meant by the text.
You don’t know what that means. You’re assuming it’s about the sexual abuse. Police saw that message plus the context of what it was about and still say she didn’t know so it seems pretty obvious that’s not what it was about.
Filming under the door she was referring to a airplane incident.
my God why is the noise and the people talking in the background so freaking loud????
From South Africa, good evening everyone ❤
2:25 I listened as creators discussed whether or not the journal pictured in police photos was Jenn or Maddie’s writing. The journal referenced mental struggles associated with trauma by a “perpetrator.” This wide frame pic shows that the journal was found in Maddie’s makeshift room in the living room. So very, very heartbreaking. 💔
He had to have another source of income besides stealing a little here and there.
Thank goodness for this channel.. all the other creators are out to lunch
Umm the only images he could have seen would have been FROM satan sterns. So are you in deeper than you've been found out to be, gramps? He sure was there to throw jen under the bus!!
Also-- He said ss got inheritance from his "father" so was this an adopted father???
He meant my father not his father. Just like he called maddie jenn. A simple mistake when one is flustered
@@danidan9917 Thank you. I wasnt sure.
❤haha i love you SaltNChe!! satan sterns lol
Chris Sterns has a point about Jennifer being shown images of what Stephan was doing to Maddie and in the presence of Chris had no vile reaction towards Stephan, or Chris, and reacted by instead telling Chris he needed to get Stephan a lawyer. Even the cops call her out on this in an on camera interview, and think she is lying.
If you look at where Maddy was forced to keep her belongings and bed, she had literally ZERO privacy and was at the mercy of anyone.
No wonder SS turned out the way he did listening to CS speak 😱😱
I caught the "cell phone" comment and it made me wonder where the missing hard drive went. Makes me wonder if mom wasn't doing more covering. The dad mentioned in the other interview that when they cleaned Stephan's room, dad went through the computer, in that room, and brought it to storage or the garage. I guess they lost the hard drive during the transfer.
Have you seen the Jennifer Soto interview where she admits she wanted to help him get a lawyer even after she had been shown pictures of the sexual abuse occurring? She may not have “known” but WTH! Who would want to help the perpetrator of her daughter get an attorney after she had been shown proof of the abuse!
Shocking! It's like she is brainwashed!!
I have to say, I would need a little time for it to be fully absorbed. It was a very intense thing she was just told had been happening.
She changed her mind shortly after.
I think all the sterns family like to tell lies. To make themselves look better then everyone else. Cause I don’t know if you all caught stephens mom said maddy called Stephen and wanted him to come to her birthday and she said she ordered maddy something from Amazon but then she said she had some thing at home that she just gave Stephen to take to Maddie so she’s a liar there now his dad‘s lying here and y’all know how Stephen lies all the time
Thanks for the facts Gray !
I see so many comments of people who do not see the red flags about JS. I fear for these people's children, because if someone can't see the red flags here, then they won't see the red flags in their own life, and in their own children's lives. 🤦🏻♀️ Also, people are bashing SS father, but he is merely sharing the opinion that so many of us have about JS. SS father is not the one who committed the crimes against Maddie, and he also was not the one who allowed these crimes to take place by sending Maddie off alone at night with SS-that was Jen. One of the opinions he shared is that he believes they were selling the CSAM material found on SS phone. I have been saying that from the beginning. SS was definitely at least sharing this material with others online, if not selling it, but I truly believe he was making profits from it.
I agree with you defo
Fishing at the police dept isnt wise. Asking ss if there is someone he can think of that influenced him. SMH this dad and mom are scum
I will NEVER believe that st one point, she didn't find out!
What would u do if it was your son. You can't blame the parents. Dad did make one mistake. But then ask am I imagining I saw a picture from Jen's phone. Then said ok, He helped police bust his son.
Um.. the dad said he should have been smarter with the data... interesting.
Just to add some content; I just got Matt Murphy’s book, The Book of Murder. In his introduction he talks about not prosecuting someone who is innocent.
“ The prosecutor, for lack of better term, is the good guy. Before the case is even filed, the prosecutor acts as a sort of mini judge-not a rubber stamp for the police, but a totally independent decision-maker objectively and skeptically reviewing the evidence and moving forward only if they are totally and without a doubt convinced that the suspect did it, as well as that the admissible evidence is persuasive enough to convince a jury”
U posted this 2x here
Is that background conversations (I hear a woman distinctively) actually going on during the interview? Or was this a convo picked up at a different time entirely when recorded? Surely they wouldn't conduct such an important conversation with that much background noise?????
Maybe it was an interpreter