For what it's worth, the Shinano, built on the 3rd Yamato hull, was sunk by 4 torpedo hits. True, she had slightly less armor, and there were extenuating circumstances, but there always are in war.
Nice vid. Just a recommendation: When firing torpedoes to large ships (larger than a destroyer), don't aim to the waterline, aim just below the keel and to the middle of the ship with magnetic detonator torpedoes. IRL this does maximum damage to really heavy ships and still applies to this game (it just took me 4 torpedo "hits" to sink a Yamato).
I sunk another Yamato, vanilla SH4, slightly SE of Saipain in January 1943. Spotted it with the radar, got into ambush position and waited on the surface till my lookouts saw the task force which unfortunately comprised an escort carrier whose planes must have seen me because the whole fleet started zigzagging. It was around midday, bright sun, sky as blue as sapphire and rough sea. I dived to periscope depth, orderd the crew to battle stations and waited. Getting into firing position was difficult, escorts pinging me and all, but I managed to lodge six torpedoes at the Yamato's starboard side, deep enough that a few exploded below the armor. This killed its engines for good. I was low on torpedoes so decided to dive at 100 m and wait it sank on its own. Two hours late, the rest of the task force was far away (ungrateful!) but the beast still floated. So I surfaced and finished it off with the deck gun. ... ... True? Not. I went below it and fired a carefully aimed single aft torpedo. It luckily blew below the Yamato's belly, probably near the ammunition depot. It spectacularly exploded and started sinking. I surfaced to let the crew enjoy the show.
@@samspencer582 Wtf are you talking about? How did they provoke them? The Japanese wanted to gain control of the oil fields in SE Asia and they knew the Americans wouldn't let them so they made the bad choice to try and sink the majority of of the USN preemptively in port at Pearl Harbor.
USA knew that Japan would attack them, but was not really sure when and where. They really thought it would be Pearl Harbor. Why was all the aircraftcarriers away on a Sunday. On Sundays they used to be in ports. FDR wanted war with Japan, but he wanted the Japan to start it so he provoked them to start the war. Victors always write the history and they not always write the real truth. Now the USA do the same when they are after the oil fields in the east and have started many wars against countries with oil. Kuwait is an example.
@@patrickmccrann991 I don’t use drugs. You seem to only read history from the victors side and the victors don’t write the real truth about the war. Don’t you know that? You must be little ignorant.
This is a pretty cool game, I've played it a few times. I ran into the Yamamoto (I believe), but there was a constant barrage of shelling from her. I managed to take out 4-5 other ships that were surrounding her, but every time I even remotely came close to her, I started to really take a beating.
10 years later but im here to share my opinion I saw her once, it was so scary dude. They didnt spot me but she was heading my way Decided to just stop all and let them pass, i was so scared 😅
I was just playing this game on Career. Just so happened to intercept a Japanese task force north of New Britain. It had two Fuso battleships and the mighty Yamato. I focused all of the my torpedoes on the Yamato. Must have put sixteen into her before she finally went down. Still having some torpedoes left, I also got a Fuso battleship. Then one of the destroyers sank itself. I honestly have no idea how that happened. It was dropping depth charges near my position. Then it caught fire then blew up without me firing a shot.
A USN submarine did sink Yamato's sort of half sister, a third Yamato-class hull that had been converted to a half-assed aircraft carrier called the Shinano. She never even got into combat.
Man can't believe it's been 11 years since I last saw this vid I was probably around in 1st or 2nd grade when I first saw this currently in my last year of high school. Even then, a great video!
This was a real tragedy in nautical terms. The Yamato was the largest battleship ever built and it, being just finished, was being moved from one part of Japan to another for the final fitting before going into battle. Was not quite ready for battle when sank, and never got to fire a single round. In that aspect, though it was a great victory for the US Navy, it was a tragedy. If I remember correctly, it was the USS Archerfish that sank it. At that time, had the ship actually gone into combat, its days would have been numbered since Aircraft carriers now ruled the seas. .
John Hand The USS Archerfish sunk the Shinano, it was built on a Yamato class hull and converted to an aircraft carrier. The Yamato was sunk by hundreds of carrier aircraft on its way to Okinawa.
In vanilla SH4, I just encountered a huge task force in the Celebes Sea (March 1942): three Yamatos, one Hiei, several Takaos and lots of screens. Very rough weather. I ran past them, set into ambush position at 90° and dived at periscope depth; then I patiently waited until the central Yamato was almost ahead of me. Opened six forward tubes, depth 8 m, low speed, slightly spread... FIRE! Six loud explosions, three gashes in the hull. The left propellers died out, the ship began to list but kept going on. I turned around and fired two torpedoes: another gash. This time the thing stopped going on but didn't sink yet. Destroyers saw me and came straight for the kill... only I was well below them at 60 m. I understood I needed to attack the other side, dived deeper and went to her right... before I could strike again, the beast sunk on its own. I made a safe getaway without being minimally disturbed and surfaced 20 km past the fleet. Now I'm refuelling in Fremantle but I can't wait getting back to Pearl to know how much renown I'm getting! So it's definitively possible to sink it only with torpedoes on one side. :)
I know, that's weird and historically impossible, considering that AFAIK no Yamato ever went in the Celebes Sea. It's just the game engine generating random task forces.
they could have made the ships more realistic. like the yamato for example her bow needed to be more realistic, also the rise in the center under the 2nd gun turret and also the crest on the front aswell
Also the Torpedo's on Subs were 3 times bigger than the Torps that planes carried, so it is not as far fetched as people might think, It only took one torpedo to sink the Japanese Carrier that was built on the 3rd Yamato class hull.
+Zythan-ZZG- probably true but the torpedo that hit her sent a 50 foot beam that was part of her construction through most of her hull. It took about 10 aircraft torpedo's and 19 bombs to sink Yamato, I was just saying that a Torpedo from a submarine hit about two to three times harder than the aircraft version, so I think 6 to 8 could sink Yamato, especially if they all hit on one side.
Yamato in real life took 12 to 14 aerial torpedo hits along with around 20 500 pounders to sink her. Musashi took even more due to them hitting the 2 sides of that ship. The Torpedo's on su s were larger.
brasil HUE actually no air dropped torpedoes carried about 600 pounds of torpex, sub and ship launched torpedoes carried about 643 pounds of torpex. So aerial torpedoes are lighter and smaller than sub and ship launched torpedoes.
The ironic thing is the Japanese knew battleships were obsolete and easy prey for aircraft after Pearl Harbor yet they kept the Yamato as the "last defense" and which was destoyed by aircraft.
astrolopitequs23 mainly because it could shoot over the horizion. But its was their 'secret weapon", so heavily armed with rows of anti aircraft guns, they thought it had a better chance than other battleships
David Foust actually, Battleships were not obsolete in navy warfare and for shelling land. But when they're moored inside a shallow harbor and not remotely ready to ship out, they're just sitting ducks.
Both side realized Carriers as the star of modern navy battle on or before Coral Sea(1942), but it was after Yamoto was finished, let alone planned, so they switched the 3rd and 4th ships of the same frame to Carriers. The more realistic reason is it just costs way too much to deploy Yamato as a battleship, as well as the morale lost of losing it, in short they just can't afford to deploy it to any real risk. That is to a point, the Japanese Navy even considered to remove all resource they could from the ship to elsewhere, and switch it to an non-moving gun platform. Until they decided "Okay it is hopeless, now we just throwing everything in one last operation, of course our flagship should lead the charge, if it could make it near the beach on Okinawa before sinking and become a gun platform it is a bonus." So USN swarmed Yamato and her friends with 400 aircrafts for around 2 hours to sink them.
In reality, I would not have wanted to be in a Balao after the failed attempt to sink that behemoth. The drubbing that followed by the escorting destroyers would've been awful beyond words. Yep, the old Yamato was like a Mad Man Heavyweight in the ring against nervous midgets........a 72,000 ton sea monster of steel. Yamato's only weakness was what came by air.
Tyler Ace Oh really, but Yamato was not like all battleships. it was on a scale of its own. Not even Bismarck would have a chance against this monster.
I wouldn't write the Balao off that quickly. The Imperial Japanese Navy was notorious for it's poor development of Anti-Submarine Warfare during World War II.
Actually, Niklas, Bismarck would have done just fine against Yamato. As mighty as Yamato was, she had weaknesses. Bigger guns and more armor doesn't always mean victory (Battle Off Samar is a great example of this), especially when the quality in her armor, shells and accuracy come into question. That, and battleships are notoriously hard to sink anyway.
Brigade35 Actually, the Bismarck would probably be torn to shreds by any of the really big ones, Yamato and the Iowas were a fair bit more powerful, with substantially heavier armaments and more protection. After all, the Bismarck was made for hunting traffic, not duking it out with enemy fleets like the others.
I played Gato2, and I never could "sink the Yamato" mission. Thnaks for the video, but it looks too much easy. On Gato2, I achieved only once "sink the Shinano", with extreme luck ... I did not pass behind the ship (crazy !) I turned to shoot my stern tubes , and I luckilly shot the propulsion. I was in immersion, but with heavy deep explosions all around me. My submarine was heavily wounded, we were all the crew near to death. But after a very, very long time, the CV has been abndonned by all its escorts (silly, but she could not move no more, so I imagine the game IA was programmed so). Then I could go to surface (at least !) and I finished sinking the Shinano with a mere deck gun ... it was all I got left as ammo. Thanks for reading my AAR (after action reporting), testimony of older ages, that should be remembered of.
Sorry, Fellow gamer (brother in game), for my previous comment. I never played SH4, so, just watching the video, I thought it was easy. But if this game is still difficult, congratulations fot this achievement.
25 Dec 1943 U.S.S. Skate fired 4 torpedoes at IJN Yamato resulting in 1 hit on the starboard side toward the stern "A hole 5 metres (16 ft) below the top of her anti-torpedo bulge and measuring some 25 metres (82 ft) across was ripped open in the hull, and a joint between the upper and lower armored belts failed, causing the rear turret's upper magazine to flood." - Garzke, William H.; Dulin, Robert O. (1985). Battleships: Axis and Neutral Battleships in World War II. Naval Institute Press.
The British (Bismarck) and the Germans used magnetic fuzes and set the riding depth to just underpass the ships body so they exploded under the ship. Battleships had an armored belt protecting it against impact fuzed torpedoes. So if SH4 US-Subs have magnetic fuzed torpedoes those would sink a Yamato with 3 - 4 hits but you need to set the running depth exactly which makes a runner more prone to failure.
What you do, is set everything up, And fire all the torpedoes you can as fast as you can. Then you dive down to approximately 180-200 (If you don't know how, press the button under the dive dial.)
Alexius Nemo In the battle of Leyte Gulf, the Musashi took a total of 20 torpedo hits on both sides (only one was a dud), 17 direct bomb hits (nearly all of which penetrated several decks before detonating), and 18 near-misses (close ones that still did damage) from wave after wave of aerial attacks over several hours before she finally capsized and exploded under the Sibuyan Sea. Remarkably, even halfway through this epic pummeling, she was still making 14 knots and fighting back, though she was down 20 feet and awash at the bow and listing. The poor Shinano, on the other hand, required just four of Archerfish's Mk-14s blasting into her starboard side to do the job because the lack of watertight integrity from incomplete fittings took care of the rest and doomed the ship, though it did take a while - about eight hours from torpedo impact to capsizing. The Shinano had no earthly business facing any enemy in her incomplete condition, let alone the American Navy, especially at that stage of the war.
Treetop64 As other people said in regards to torpedoes. Air launch torpedoes have much less explosive filler in them than sub launched ones. 4 torpedoes from a sub making direct hits could very well have sunk Yamato or Musashi. Its worth considering as well that Yamato took a hit from an US sub torpedo earlier in the war and it did some mean damage. US submarine Skate fired a 4 torpedo spread at the Yamato of which 1 connected and tore open a hole 82 feet long and caused the flooding of her rear turret magazine. The total flooding was 3,000 tons. That was just one sub launched torpedo.
That is worth some serious Renown. After 100's of hours playing this game, I only got a shot at the Yamato once - somewhere near Truk, at the end of my patrol and only had two torp's left. So I banged 'em into her. Slowed her down. A little.... I seriously miss playing this game. I wish they'd release an updated version.
I believe that you have to consider that this is a 1080P capture, and if you are not playing this video in Full screen, it will be compressed, which might make it look better than it actually is when you play the game in full screen, it might also depend on the size of your screen.
All 4 torpedoes blast same place, all 4 torpedoes tore apart armor/hull in same place. Things will look even worse, if first torpedoes are strong enough to blast hole into hull large enough for rest of torpedoes to detonate inside Yamato. To make things even worse, last torpedo detonate nearby ammo magazine.
Yes indeed, i love that! If u visited my profile u know I'm a flight simmer, Learning to fly the Concorde Professional for FS2004 PERFECT was my biggest challenge, took me days of studying the manual, practice flying, but when you complete a historical correct Supersonic flight it feels amazing.
Even though the Yamato wasn't sunk this way, it's still so cool watching an American Sub sink the super battleship. But the sad truth of this is the Yamato was sunk by Aircraft launched from carriers. A total of 15 bombs (correct me if I'm wrong) and 4 bombs that totalled the Ship and an explosion from the forward magazines completely destroyed the ship.
einar rám and the ship would not sink after the shells on it by the british they sunk their own ship if you se the pictures of her o the sea floor you can see that her hull its in good condicion
It went out on a suicide mission more or less, with little support. It had been docked up most of the war without seeing any combat, untill it was the last ship left more or less. It got attacked by torpedo bombers without ever getting in range of the American ships.
The only thing SH4 is, is a submarine simulator. simulating the aspects of operating a submarine, navigation planning and fire/torpedo management. Not a simulator that's meant to simulate foundering ships.
Her escorts would have filled the sea with depth charges at first hit. As pride of the fleet she should of had a thick defense of escorts. Also where your first wave of torpedo's hit was one of the thickest and most reinforced hull sections.
Escorts have to find the sub first and the Japanese were notoriously lacking in ASW operations during the war. Also, post war study revealed that the Yamato's armor design had a weakness that made her very susceptible to torpedo damage.
plan you shot from long away, play your course so you can go on silent running or you can go very deep and faster while deploying decoys. But, fire your torpedoes, crash dive and stop, deploy decoy, move slowly away on high deep
And by this time in the war, a US submarine captain would wait for night, run in on the surface using his speed and SJ radar and put multiple torpedoes at close range in multiple targets.
ira taylor The majority of documentaries that tell the Yamato was sunk by air forces and was only spotted by an American Submarine of the coast of Kyushu Island. The sub did not attack Yamato.
+Burak Baggins idk, most of the time when I try this mission it does not sink with 6 torpedo hits, barely makes any damage. This time I played it I was lucky, it was the first time I managed to sink her at all. So in game you might succeed in like 1 of 10 tries
once again. This is a game and what seems most important in reality is not the most important in a virtual computer game. You can not bring yamato down without making holes on both sides. It took me about 25times of try to get her to sink at all.
The war ship arizona was sink to aircraft,the bismark to torpedo launched to aircraft and the roma was sink to bomb launch to aircraft. The very and only enemy for this navy was been the aircraft.
Jean Lafitte I see what you're trying to tell here. The Arizona was sunk by Air Forces of the Japanese Empire, Bismarck was (technically not sunk by torpedoes but by the Royal Navy Battleships) totalled by the torpedo that disabled the rudder, and the Roma (an Italian Battleship) was sunk by bombs dropped from Aircraft.
1. This is a video game that is supposed to be an ACCURATE depiction of submarine warfare in the Pacific!. 2. Where are the Japanese destroyers? Even on her last mission, the IJN found a division of DDs for her. 3. The "Yamato" class BB was designed with an anti- torpedo system that was supposed to withstand torpedoes with 880lbs TNT warheads. The armor citadel would protect enough buoyancy that even with four torpedo hits and counter-flooding, they could get home. But the upper and lower belts were joined with a riveted joint that failed against torpedoes with TORPEX warheads and allowed water into the armored citadel. The US Mk.14 after mid-1943 had a warhead equivalent to over 950lbs of TNT. It would be no surprise if four late war Mk.14s sank her.
the AI is not hte best, the destroyers are easily fooled by diving below the thermal layer, and they will keep looking for the sub miles away once the think that they found you, otherwise, it took me maybe 10-20 attempts to sink her, maybe 5-6hours of playing thesame situation again and again, so even though not fully realistic, it's is far from easy. This video is just a snapshot of my one lucky mission.
Very nice camera angles. music, and editing! Though after 4:30 you shouldn't have stuck your scope up. They will spot it in that close proximity. You could have fired the torpedoes using the passive sonar angle. or even just straight out. I'm not sure what time period this is, but you should have set the torpedoes a bit deeper. Nice video though, only a hard core SH gamer would nit-pick like me! ;)
I wish this game would get a remaster
And kill it
Have you heard of the Mod "fall of the rising sun" before?
@@philipcrash765 I have actually some years ago but I haven't really gotten around to trying it out. Just looked it up and it seems to be complete!
The mod is great, FOTRS has beautiful graphics, and it feels like a complete rework.
2012: Was a great video.
2022: Is a great video.
2032: Will be a great video.
2024: great video
5:38 Now we know why the Yamato was sunk. It was crewed by only 5 people.
+redDL89 hahaha
Jajaja
+RazorbackGermany How Are The Japanese Equal To Anything Normal?
Oracle Gaming true. They are above average
The Emerald Men Or below since they thought attacking America wold be a good idea in world domination.
For what it's worth, the Shinano, built on the 3rd Yamato hull, was sunk by 4 torpedo hits. True, she had slightly less armor, and there were extenuating circumstances, but there always are in war.
Nice vid. Just a recommendation: When firing torpedoes to large ships (larger than a destroyer), don't aim to the waterline, aim just below the keel and to the middle of the ship with magnetic detonator torpedoes. IRL this does maximum damage to really heavy ships and still applies to this game (it just took me 4 torpedo "hits" to sink a Yamato).
I sunk another Yamato, vanilla SH4, slightly SE of Saipain in January 1943. Spotted it with the radar, got into ambush position and waited on the surface till my lookouts saw the task force which unfortunately comprised an escort carrier whose planes must have seen me because the whole fleet started zigzagging. It was around midday, bright sun, sky as blue as sapphire and rough sea. I dived to periscope depth, orderd the crew to battle stations and waited.
Getting into firing position was difficult, escorts pinging me and all, but I managed to lodge six torpedoes at the Yamato's starboard side, deep enough that a few exploded below the armor. This killed its engines for good.
I was low on torpedoes so decided to dive at 100 m and wait it sank on its own. Two hours late, the rest of the task force was far away (ungrateful!) but the beast still floated. So I surfaced and finished it off with the deck gun.
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True? Not. I went below it and fired a carefully aimed single aft torpedo. It luckily blew below the Yamato's belly, probably near the ammunition depot. It spectacularly exploded and started sinking. I surfaced to let the crew enjoy the show.
Domenico Marzolla You played too much
Wonderful story!
What a beautiful ship, I doubt we will ever see such amazing designs ever again.
The Japanese sure knew how to design a beauty for the IJN. Carriers, battleships, cruisers, destroyers... all had a great design.
The americans wanted war with Japan and provoked them to start it. It´s a fact. Read history.
@@samspencer582 Wtf are you talking about? How did they provoke them?
The Japanese wanted to gain control of the oil fields in SE Asia and they knew the Americans wouldn't let them so they made the bad choice to try and sink the majority of of the USN preemptively in port at Pearl Harbor.
USA knew that Japan would attack them, but was not really sure when and where. They really thought it would be Pearl Harbor. Why was all the aircraftcarriers away on a Sunday. On Sundays they used to be in ports. FDR wanted war with Japan, but he wanted the Japan to start it so he provoked them to start the war. Victors always write the history and they not always write the real truth. Now the USA do the same when they are after the oil fields in the east and have started many wars against countries with oil. Kuwait is an example.
@@samspencer582 You are absolutely clueless. You have no concept of reality or factual history. What cheap drugs have you been smoking?
@@patrickmccrann991 I don’t use drugs. You seem to only read history from the victors side and the victors don’t write the real truth about the war. Don’t you know that? You must be little ignorant.
This is a pretty cool game, I've played it a few times. I ran into the Yamamoto (I believe), but there was a constant barrage of shelling from her. I managed to take out 4-5 other ships that were surrounding her, but every time I even remotely came close to her, I started to really take a beating.
10 years later but im here to share my opinion
I saw her once, it was so scary dude. They didnt spot me but she was heading my way
Decided to just stop all and let them pass, i was so scared 😅
It's "Yamato". Yamamoto was an admiral
I was just playing this game on Career. Just so happened to intercept a Japanese task force north of New Britain. It had two Fuso battleships and the mighty Yamato. I focused all of the my torpedoes on the Yamato. Must have put sixteen into her before she finally went down. Still having some torpedoes left, I also got a Fuso battleship. Then one of the destroyers sank itself. I honestly have no idea how that happened. It was dropping depth charges near my position. Then it caught fire then blew up without me firing a shot.
The destroyer possibly scuttled its self
A USN submarine did sink Yamato's sort of half sister, a third Yamato-class hull that had been converted to a half-assed aircraft carrier called the Shinano. She never even got into combat.
Man can't believe it's been 11 years since I last saw this vid I was probably around in 1st or 2nd grade when I first saw this currently in my last year of high school. Even then, a great video!
I've been in this exact class of submarine, and can tell you the game interprets the sub pretty well.
Man you guys are getting very very good at this , I loved it
i love how you show the holes in the ships keep it up bro
大和と武蔵はこの程度の魚雷攻撃では転覆沈没しない。
武蔵は両舷に航空魚雷が２０発くらい、爆弾も２０発位命中し、戦闘終了約４時間後に沈没。また沈没直前まで艦内の照明は点いていた。
大和は左舷に攻撃が集中し航空魚雷が１０発命中し、浸水により左側に傾き転覆沈没。沈没中？に火薬庫に引火したのかボイラー室に海水が侵入したかの原因で大爆発が起こり船体が大きく３つに分解
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Everyone can knock it all they want, I am a serious Gamer and I approve, and I know how much time You put into this video. GG.
This was a real tragedy in nautical terms. The Yamato was the largest battleship ever built and it, being just finished, was being moved from one part of Japan to another for the final fitting before going into battle.
Was not quite ready for battle when sank, and never got to fire a single round. In that aspect, though it was a great victory for the US Navy, it was a tragedy. If I remember correctly, it was the USS Archerfish that sank it.
At that time, had the ship actually gone into combat, its days would have been numbered since Aircraft carriers now ruled the seas. .
John Hand The USS Archerfish sunk the Shinano, it was built on a Yamato class hull and converted to an aircraft carrier.
The Yamato was sunk by hundreds of carrier aircraft on its way to Okinawa.
Is the Archerfish a Gato Class boat?
She was a Balao-class submarine, there is a great book about the Archerfish called 'Gallant lady'. It a great read.
+Palehybrid
He Talks About Shinano
Are you saying the *Yamato was sunk as a VIRGIN??? That's TOO COMICAL.*
In vanilla SH4, I just encountered a huge task force in the Celebes Sea (March 1942): three Yamatos, one Hiei, several Takaos and lots of screens. Very rough weather.
I ran past them, set into ambush position at 90° and dived at periscope depth; then I patiently waited until the central Yamato was almost ahead of me. Opened six forward tubes, depth 8 m, low speed, slightly spread... FIRE! Six loud explosions, three gashes in the hull. The left propellers died out, the ship began to list but kept going on.
I turned around and fired two torpedoes: another gash. This time the thing stopped going on but didn't sink yet. Destroyers saw me and came straight for the kill... only I was well below them at 60 m. I understood I needed to attack the other side, dived deeper and went to her right... before I could strike again, the beast sunk on its own. I made a safe getaway without being minimally disturbed and surfaced 20 km past the fleet. Now I'm refuelling in Fremantle but I can't wait getting back to Pearl to know how much renown I'm getting!
So it's definitively possible to sink it only with torpedoes on one side. :)
Three Yamatos? Seems legit.(Only 2 were completed, the third was converted to an aircraft carrier before it finished production)
I know, that's weird and historically impossible, considering that AFAIK no Yamato ever went in the Celebes Sea. It's just the game engine generating random task forces.
TheAow4321 There's 3 Yamato-Class Ships 2 battleships, Yamato and Musashi, and then another class which has been modified as an aircraft carrier
Ryan Lorenzo Thanks for repeating what I said?..
I have always wondered what the minimum separation was in a spread of torps, so the first hit did not set off others before they hit
Even if unrealistic, cool simulation game with great graphics. Thumbs up.
Ethercruiser1 True. This game is old, but for me it has still cool graphics
they could have made the ships more realistic. like the yamato for example her bow needed to be more realistic, also the rise in the center under the 2nd gun turret and also the crest on the front aswell
Really enjoyable video there. Thanks.
Gorgeous video man! Also, If you did the battle, good skills! Surviving that is so good!
Also the Torpedo's on Subs were 3 times bigger than the Torps that planes carried, so it is not as far fetched as people might think, It only took one torpedo to sink the Japanese Carrier that was built on the 3rd Yamato class hull.
Shinano didn't have her watertight compartments fitted. As she was sailing to Kure for final fitting out
+Zythan-ZZG- probably true but the torpedo that hit her sent a 50 foot beam that was part of her construction through most of her hull. It took about 10 aircraft torpedo's and 19 bombs to sink Yamato, I was just saying that a Torpedo from a submarine hit about two to three times harder than the aircraft version, so I think 6 to 8 could sink Yamato, especially if they all hit on one side.
the aerial dropped torps used to sink the yamato where much more power full, the mk 13's
Yamato in real life took 12 to 14 aerial torpedo hits along with around 20 500 pounders to sink her. Musashi took even more due to them hitting the 2 sides of that ship. The Torpedo's on su s were larger.
brasil HUE actually no air dropped torpedoes carried about 600 pounds of torpex, sub and ship launched torpedoes carried about 643 pounds of torpex. So aerial torpedoes are lighter and smaller than sub and ship launched torpedoes.
Nice job. Love the editing. thanks for your hard work.
The ironic thing is the Japanese knew battleships were obsolete and easy prey for aircraft after Pearl Harbor yet they kept the Yamato as the "last defense" and which was destoyed by aircraft.
Why last defense?
astrolopitequs23 mainly because it could shoot over the horizion. But its was their 'secret weapon", so heavily armed with rows of anti aircraft guns, they thought it had a better chance than other battleships
David Foust actually, Battleships were not obsolete in navy warfare and for shelling land. But when they're moored inside a shallow harbor and not remotely ready to ship out, they're just sitting ducks.
Both side realized Carriers as the star of modern navy battle on or before Coral Sea(1942), but it was after Yamoto was finished, let alone planned, so they switched the 3rd and 4th ships of the same frame to Carriers.
The more realistic reason is it just costs way too much to deploy Yamato as a battleship, as well as the morale lost of losing it, in short they just can't afford to deploy it to any real risk.
That is to a point, the Japanese Navy even considered to remove all resource they could from the ship to elsewhere, and switch it to an non-moving gun platform.
Until they decided "Okay it is hopeless, now we just throwing everything in one last operation, of course our flagship should lead the charge, if it could make it near the beach on Okinawa before sinking and become a gun platform it is a bonus."
So USN swarmed Yamato and her friends with 400 aircrafts for around 2 hours to sink them.
Bec. Yamato was being built secretly before the attack on Pearl Harbor
That's 10 close shots ! Impressive ! +Jean-Pierre Bovin
In reality, I would not have wanted to be in a Balao after the failed attempt to sink that behemoth. The drubbing that followed by the escorting destroyers would've been awful beyond words. Yep, the old Yamato was like a Mad Man Heavyweight in the ring against nervous midgets........a 72,000 ton sea monster of steel. Yamato's only weakness was what came by air.
This was the weakness of all battleships
Tyler Ace Oh really, but Yamato was not like all battleships. it was on a scale of its own. Not even Bismarck would have a chance against this monster.
I wouldn't write the Balao off that quickly. The Imperial Japanese Navy was notorious for it's poor development of Anti-Submarine Warfare during World War II.
Actually, Niklas, Bismarck would have done just fine against Yamato. As mighty as Yamato was, she had weaknesses. Bigger guns and more armor doesn't always mean victory (Battle Off Samar is a great example of this), especially when the quality in her armor, shells and accuracy come into question.
That, and battleships are notoriously hard to sink anyway.
Brigade35 Actually, the Bismarck would probably be torn to shreds by any of the really big ones, Yamato and the Iowas were a fair bit more powerful, with substantially heavier armaments and more protection. After all, the Bismarck was made for hunting traffic, not duking it out with enemy fleets like the others.
I played Gato2, and I never could "sink the Yamato" mission. Thnaks for the video, but it looks too much easy. On Gato2, I achieved only once "sink the Shinano", with extreme luck ... I did not pass behind the ship (crazy !) I turned to shoot my stern tubes , and I luckilly shot the propulsion. I was in immersion, but with heavy deep explosions all around me. My submarine was heavily wounded, we were all the crew near to death. But after a very, very long time, the CV has been abndonned by all its escorts (silly, but she could not move no more, so I imagine the game IA was programmed so). Then I could go to surface (at least !) and I finished sinking the Shinano with a mere deck gun ... it was all I got left as ammo. Thanks for reading my AAR (after action reporting), testimony of older ages, that should be remembered of.
this took me maybe 15-20 tries before actually sinking yamato, so what you are seeing is extreme luck ^^
Sorry, Fellow gamer (brother in game), for my previous comment. I never played SH4, so, just watching the video, I thought it was easy. But if this game is still difficult, congratulations fot this achievement.
Great job, looks fantastic!
When the real Yamato rolled over at the end, it blew up royally...too bad that wasn't included too.
25 Dec 1943 U.S.S. Skate fired 4 torpedoes at IJN Yamato resulting in 1 hit on the starboard side toward the stern
"A hole 5 metres (16 ft) below the top of her anti-torpedo bulge and measuring some 25 metres (82 ft) across was ripped open in the hull, and a joint between the upper and lower armored belts failed, causing the rear turret's upper magazine to flood." - Garzke, William H.; Dulin, Robert O. (1985). Battleships: Axis and Neutral Battleships in World War II. Naval Institute Press.
at the end it pulled a Poseidon
The British (Bismarck) and the Germans used magnetic fuzes and set the riding depth to just underpass the ships body so they exploded under the ship. Battleships had an armored belt protecting it against impact fuzed torpedoes. So if SH4 US-Subs have magnetic fuzed torpedoes those would sink a Yamato with 3 - 4 hits but you need to set the running depth exactly which makes a runner more prone to failure.
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What you do, is set everything up, And fire all the torpedoes you can as fast as you can. Then you dive down to approximately 180-200 (If you don't know how, press the button under the dive dial.)
When IJN aircraft carrier Shinano (Yamato class hull) was sunk by the sub USS Archerfish it only took 4 torpedoes.....
I concur it was a ship in progress but...it was mostly seaworthy...
Alexius Nemo
In the battle of Leyte Gulf, the Musashi took a total of 20 torpedo hits on both sides (only one was a dud), 17 direct bomb hits (nearly all of which penetrated several decks before detonating), and 18 near-misses (close ones that still did damage) from wave after wave of aerial attacks over several hours before she finally capsized and exploded under the Sibuyan Sea. Remarkably, even halfway through this epic pummeling, she was still making 14 knots and fighting back, though she was down 20 feet and awash at the bow and listing.
The poor Shinano, on the other hand, required just four of Archerfish's Mk-14s blasting into her starboard side to do the job because the lack of watertight integrity from incomplete fittings took care of the rest and doomed the ship, though it did take a while - about eight hours from torpedo impact to capsizing. The Shinano had no earthly business facing any enemy in her incomplete condition, let alone the American Navy, especially at that stage of the war.
Treetop64 Well said, sir
Treetop64
As other people said in regards to torpedoes. Air launch torpedoes have much less explosive filler in them than sub launched ones. 4 torpedoes from a sub making direct hits could very well have sunk Yamato or Musashi. Its worth considering as well that Yamato took a hit from an US sub torpedo earlier in the war and it did some mean damage. US submarine Skate fired a 4 torpedo spread at the Yamato of which 1 connected and tore open a hole 82 feet long and caused the flooding of her rear turret magazine. The total flooding was 3,000 tons.
That was just one sub launched torpedo.
solus48
You my friend know your stuff
Good man!🍻
That is worth some serious Renown. After 100's of hours playing this game, I only got a shot at the Yamato once - somewhere near Truk, at the end of my patrol and only had two torp's left. So I banged 'em into her. Slowed her down. A little....
I seriously miss playing this game. I wish they'd release an updated version.
I believe that you have to consider that this is a 1080P capture, and if you are not playing this video in Full screen, it will be compressed, which might make it look better than it actually is when you play the game in full screen, it might also depend on the size of your screen.
Go on tell me now they are still going to build great monsters like these again. HAS NOT THE SINKING OF THE GENERAL BELGRANO
Great video! I'm hunting for this ship right now.
OK, at 4:40, passing below the dying giant is just showing off! :p
All 4 torpedoes blast same place, all 4 torpedoes tore apart armor/hull in same place. Things will look even worse, if first torpedoes are strong enough to blast hole into hull large enough for rest of torpedoes to detonate inside Yamato. To make things even worse, last torpedo detonate nearby ammo magazine.
Is there something better than a front view of Yamato ? :O Awesome :')
When the camera is under water the crewman sounds like Napoleon Dynamite
"Torpedoes in the water GOSH"
Oh, and nicely done, very enjoyable
Yamato was retooled for outer space for the Star Blazers crew. FACT....
Excellent simulation and graphics
Make any naval game open world with construction options! I'm there!
Yes indeed, i love that! If u visited my profile u know I'm a flight simmer, Learning to fly the Concorde Professional for FS2004 PERFECT was my biggest challenge, took me days of studying the manual, practice flying, but when you complete a historical correct Supersonic flight it feels amazing.
Nice video man
Even though the Yamato wasn't sunk this way, it's still so cool watching an American Sub sink the super battleship. But the sad truth of this is the Yamato was sunk by Aircraft launched from carriers. A total of 15 bombs (correct me if I'm wrong) and 4 bombs that totalled the Ship and an explosion from the forward magazines completely destroyed the ship.
Charles Kelvie Suiza lel no 20 torps got it. The japanese build good ships not like the brits whose ships DETONATE
No, it is either the Fuso or the Yamashiro. The Nagato class had only 4 main gun turrets
I can imagine the US when they saw the Yamato for the first time they were like. DAMN, Now That's A Big Ship!!
the yamato was a beutifull ship its sad that they had to sink her
OH! I love the hits that the Torpedos make at 4:11 that is cool I wish this game was made for PS3 or 360.
It took a hell of a fleet to stop Bismarck
einar rám and the ship would not sink after the shells on it by the british they sunk their own ship if you se the pictures of her o the sea floor you can see that her hull its in good condicion
The only thing is: This is not the Bismarck.
Historically speaking the Yamato was attacked by dive and torpedo bombers. It took five 1,000 lb bombs and ten torpedoes to sink her.
I thought Yamato had a torpedo belt
Whoa geez I posted this comment a loooong time ago ;-; back then when I was 12
all warships have torpedo belt
do you mean battleships?
battleships, destroyers, cruisers, aircraft carriers have torpedo belt for torpedo protection
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yamato can handle more than 30 torpedo or was it 10
Check out 0:37, That kind of Conning Tower Has only Gato, Balao class didnt have the connections beetwen observation periscope and watch periscope.
It went out on a suicide mission more or less, with little support. It had been docked up most of the war without seeing any combat, untill it was the last ship left more or less. It got attacked by torpedo bombers without ever getting in range of the American ships.
Yeah, true
About how many torpedoes does it take to bring that monster down? Great vid. I enjoyed it.
My relative was a U Boat Commander in WWII
Cool, did he died during the war?
die*
actuly, this movie was shot in Vanilla SH4 (no mods at all)
dude, it was not sinking until the last torpedo's hit. It was flooded indeed. But sinking, no.
AMAZING VIDEO !!!
The only thing SH4 is, is a submarine simulator. simulating the aspects of operating a submarine, navigation planning and fire/torpedo management. Not a simulator that's meant to simulate foundering ships.
Considering the original Yamato took at least 11 torpedoes by the time it sunk, I'd say the last spread of 4 was definitely necessary.
The Yamato had 1,147 watertight compartments, best to fire off everything you have, it's the only way to be sure.
once again. This is a game and what seems most important in reality is not the most important in a virtual computer game.
Her escorts would have filled the sea with depth charges at first hit. As pride of the fleet she should of had a thick defense of escorts.
Also where your first wave of torpedo's hit was one of the thickest and most reinforced hull sections.
Escorts have to find the sub first and the Japanese were notoriously lacking in ASW operations during the war. Also, post war study revealed that the Yamato's armor design had a weakness that made her very susceptible to torpedo damage.
plan you shot from long away, play your course so you can go on silent running or you can go very deep and faster while deploying decoys. But, fire your torpedoes, crash dive and stop, deploy decoy, move slowly away on high deep
And by this time in the war, a US submarine captain would wait for night, run in on the surface using his speed and SJ radar and put multiple torpedoes at close range in multiple targets.
well, the mission is set during daytime, no can do sir.
people saying this is unrealistic just because a sub sunk it does not mean it is unrealistic the torpedo has the same power as normal torpedos
I don't care what happened to the Yamato, it's still sexy af
I have seen a lot of documenterys about this ship it was sunk naval air arm and torpedo and dive bombers
ira taylor The majority of documentaries that tell the Yamato was sunk by air forces and was only spotted by an American Submarine of the coast of Kyushu Island. The sub did not attack Yamato.
the subs fired upon the fleet the yamato was on, they shot spread of 6 torpedoes bot didn ot hit the yamato itself tho
Would it really sink by 6 mk14. It might depend on where it got hit but how likely?
+Burak Baggins idk, most of the time when I try this mission it does not sink with 6 torpedo hits, barely makes any damage. This time I played it I was lucky, it was the first time I managed to sink her at all. So in game you might succeed in like 1 of 10 tries
+Jean-Pierre Bovin I thought you fired all 10 of your tubes at the Yamato?
+Jean-Pierre Bovin you are Pilot, right?
جيري ساينفيلد indeed.
***** But it got hit by 15-25 plane torpedoes... Submarine torpedoes are much bigger?
That's the sister ship of Yamato Musashi I mean look at the anti aircraft arrangement just look!😱
Where do u get the game? Btw, that was awesome!!!
As I recall the Yamato was chased off by a group of destroyers firing torpedos at one point. It may be tough, but that ship was far from invincible.
once again. This is a game and what seems most important in reality is not the most important in a virtual computer game. You can not bring yamato down without making holes on both sides. It took me about 25times of try to get her to sink at all.
Actually, the simulation of a war-submarine includes the foundering of ships.
Great vid and pretty accurate. The real yamato took 7 torps on one side and did the same thing =D
The war ship arizona was sink to aircraft,the bismark to torpedo launched to aircraft and the roma was sink to bomb launch to aircraft. The very and only enemy for this navy was been the aircraft.
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...and your enemy seems to be the english language...
Jean Lafitte I see what you're trying to tell here. The Arizona was sunk by Air Forces of the Japanese Empire, Bismarck was (technically not sunk by torpedoes but by the Royal Navy Battleships) totalled by the torpedo that disabled the rudder, and the Roma (an Italian Battleship) was sunk by bombs dropped from Aircraft.
well, it seems like you missed them, there are LOADS of them, you just have to lure them away
Are you using any mods, because I can't remember it looking this good
USE SHOCK LAZER CANNONS!
PREPARE WAVE MOTION G-
oh wait...wrong year
She's missing her Wave Motion Gun.
1. This is a video game that is supposed to be an ACCURATE depiction of submarine warfare in the Pacific!. 2. Where are the Japanese destroyers? Even on her last mission, the IJN found a division of DDs for her. 3. The "Yamato" class BB was designed with an anti- torpedo system that was supposed to withstand torpedoes with 880lbs TNT warheads. The armor citadel would protect enough buoyancy that even with four torpedo hits and counter-flooding, they could get home. But the upper and lower belts were joined with a riveted joint that failed against torpedoes with TORPEX warheads and allowed water into the armored citadel. The US Mk.14 after mid-1943 had a warhead equivalent to over 950lbs of TNT. It would be no surprise if four late war Mk.14s sank her.
the AI is not hte best, the destroyers are easily fooled by diving below the thermal layer, and they will keep looking for the sub miles away once the think that they found you, otherwise, it took me maybe 10-20 attempts to sink her, maybe 5-6hours of playing thesame situation again and again, so even though not fully realistic, it's is far from easy. This video is just a snapshot of my one lucky mission.
well i will have to give it a try ... :P tnks for the feedback
very cool sinking sequence 2 thumbs up.
I know it's just a game, but I couldn't help but laugh at how the U-boat kept the hatches and people open and out when it dove.
depends where they hit her, one good hit on the ammo or fuel storage and she would go up like Guy Fawkes night.
Nice shooting 5 fish in same area just aft of number 2 main turret. That'll get ya a case a beer!
I wouldn't want to be on a sinking ship that's not supposed to sink...
Shock I'm not sure maybe if the ship was not moving and the sub fired the torps to the same place maybe they will get in the same place
Yamato Wasent Sunk By Submarines She Was Tour About 400 Hundreds Plane's From The Aircraft Carriers
how did u make this video? or is this just part of a game ==
I sank the Yamato many times with a Balao-class boat in the Original SILENT HUNTER game...the Kongo a few times, too.
1 destroyer fired torpedo irl cut the front of the kongo of
Very nice camera angles. music, and editing!
Though after 4:30 you shouldn't have stuck your scope up. They will spot it in that close proximity. You could have fired the torpedoes using the passive sonar angle. or even just straight out. I'm not sure what time period this is, but you should have set the torpedoes a bit deeper.
Nice video though, only a hard core SH gamer would nit-pick like me! ;)
"or you can go very deep and faster"
That's what she said.