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Jaguar XK8 rear brakes and Hand brake upgrade. The brake Saga Episode 6
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- In this episode of To the Garage. John removes the rear brakes from his Jaguar XK8 and replaces the disc's pads and Flexi hoses with upgraded parts from EBC. He also shows how to adjust the handbrake or E brake shoes shoes
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Parts used in this video and others in the Braka saga series are linked below.
Red Stuff brake pads.
rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53...
EBC USR Discs
rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53...
EBC Brake lines. part number for 96 XK8 BLA1504-4L
www.ebcbrakeshop.co.uk/ebc-st...
Caliper rebuild Kit (Mine came from British parts .co.uk BUT THIS SEEMS A GOOD DEAL)
rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53...
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John you really should always start the brake pipe thread by hand. I have seen many of these nuts cross threaded caused by starting them with a spanner. Then either a new pipe or a repair section has to be fitted making the repair more difficult. 👍 keep the videos coming .
I felt your pain with those rear brakelines, dreadful access, I should've just waited until I lowered the rear beam in hindsight. Great insight John, thank you. Any time the workshop manuals run a little short or for any tips or tricks, your videos have proved invaluable. Thank you!
Thank you
very sad started watching at 7AM this morning great video, I am beginning to worry my partner!!!!!!
Hi, John -excellent video. My "02 XKR has the same 'banjo' bolt set up as yours - so not just an early model sizing. and likewise my S/S braided line 'banjo' bolt has the finer threads. My car also had little caps in the handbrake adjustment hole in the brake hub. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the intel Pat. Much appreciated
hi, loving the videos, very helpful, but do you have one on the hand break switch replacement ie; where it is and how to get to it please? thanks
Another great video John, congratulations. I've just bought a convertible XK8 1999 and shortly after getting it home the 'restrictive performance ' light came on . I've put your recommended OBD2 on it and have got P0355, P0357 error messages - engine misfire on coil E primary and G primary. Have you made a video of changing spark plugs and coils please, I've searched but can't find it. Many thanks and what lovely cars these xk8 s are, well worth the hassles!!
Not yet Phillip. Its not too difficult though. Well done on your purchase and at least the OBDII has let you know that it is nothing serious.
hi jon many thanks for the info is the adjustment for the handbrake just on the nearside many thanks tony
Glad it helped. No there is an adjuster both sides. The operation is reversed. (up slacked on one side and tightens on the other)
I had to do this job on our X300 & found the brake retaining bolts needed a 7mm allen key. Found the shoes did not have any linings at all. Hopefully the hand brake might be more effective when I fit the new shoes. Once the X300 is done it will be time to do the XKR.
Thanks Joanne. Hope the XKR goes well👍. Nice fleet
Anyone thinking of getting the Mtec rear discs for their early Xjr with Brembo callipers make sure you get the correct discs size..correct size for Brembo below..
Solid Diameter: 330.0 Thickness: 15.0 Minimum Thickness: 13.0 Height: 42.0 Bore Diameter: 64.0 Studs: 5. Ask me how i know?
Thanks for the excellent intel Dave👍
@@ToTheGarage thanks John love the xk8 you have
Regarding the handbrake - first of all, very informative videos, very much appreciate all the job you've put into making these for us :) With that out of the way - you mention that the hand brake is rarely used since you have an automatic which has a parking mode and the hand brake really doesn't matter. Well, I'd highly recommend that you, and owners of cars with automatic gearboxes in general, always use the hand brake. The parts in the gearbox that locks the transmission are not designed for extended use without also applying the hand brake. The parts will wear and if you're unlucky they will break. Which will be an expensive repair in most cases. Better to use the system as it was intended, first apply the hand brake and then put the gear selector in Parking mode. Your gearbox will be a much happier unit for a longer time :) (there's a rather nice article on wikipedia about this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parking_pawl )
Absolutely agree C64X. I always apply y handbrake. The point was that the sheet will not see any wear at all as the transmission lock won't let the wheels turn more than about 5 degrees. The only way our handbrakes see any wear is if you drive off with the handbrake on or do handbrake turns🤣.
Excellent intel on the parking Pawl by the way.
Always amuses me in old American cops and robbers films, They SCREACH TO A HALT ,JUMP OUT OF THE CAR, AND THEN... THE CAR ROCKS FORWARD 6 INCHES TILL THE TRANSMISSION LOCK CATCHES IT
@@ToTheGarage haha yes that car rocking in the movies always make me feel sorry for the poor gearbox :)
Looking closely at that original Banjo bolt at 18:13, it has rolled thread (as opposed to cut thread). This is why it has a coarse pitch. I’ve seen this used for lifting tackle because it has superior strength properties - but unsure why it is on a Banjo bolt?! If anything, you would want to design the male thread as sacrificial to save damage to the female thread - but nope, the bolt thread is way stronger....
Thats some keen observational skills there Paul. I had not noticed the rolled thread until you mentioned it
Hi John, hope all is well. Wondering if you can share the part number of the rear brake EBC kit. I noticed you blurred the part number. ???
Ive just experienced the banjo bolt issue....its an M10 x 1.5 bolt for the caliper as opposed to the m10 x 1.0 which is standard just about everywhere else...
Ahhh not just me then!
Thanks John - very helpful. Just one question. If I just want to check on the condition of the handbrake shoes, can I remove the caliper+holder without having to drain or bleed the brakes? I figure if I clamp the pistons back, to ensure they don't come forward, this might work?
Hi Ian. Yes👍 just suspend the detached calliper so that it does not strain the flexi hoses. Also adjust the handbrake cable to ensure the hand brake shoes are well clear of the drum before you pull the drum/disc off
Hi John, my wife complains about the brake dust, how can it be prevented. Thank you for your videos, they are really educating me
Glad to help. The only complete answer is dust shields but they are ugly as a rule. I will put a link to this type of device below. Otherwise ceramic based pads such as EBC Red STUFF produce far less dust, and that dust is silvery grey rather than black
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4x-Big-Rim-Dust-Shields-for-20-Inch-Wheels-Brake-Dust-Covers-Plates-Behind-Rim/153410606455?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200818143230%26meid%3D03afb5369c214326ae3bafe729b1cbc8%26pid%3D101224%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D5%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D163593855743%26itm%3D153410606455%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DDefaultOrganic&_trksid=p2047675.c101224.m-1
hi i have bought the same rotor but with ferodo racing 2500 pads, i can't reconize my xk8 braking
Took mine for another short run today and they are getting better and better.
John, can you tell me if the plug, in the access port of the rear drum is just a plug, or is it threaded? Thank you
Hi Warren. If you are talking about the hole through which I put the screwdriver to adjust the handbrake.
a) no its not threaded in the disc or in the hub.
b) I didn't have any form of plug? Doesn't mean there shouldn't be one🤔
If we are talking about the same hole then is it possible that the disc/drum has been fitted not aligned with the hole in the hub and you can see through the hole in the disc and are looking at the hub?
I'm not aware of a hole in the backplate. (Which does not mean there isn't one)
Does the above make any sense Warren?. I find myself desperately wanting to point🤣👈
I hope you have the wheels chocked even though it's an automatic !
Better than that its got all 4 wheels dangling from a ramp!👍😁
hi john another great video as stated before I uprated my x300 front discs and pads from ebc then ordered a full set braided hoses . it was over a year before my mechanic went to fit them and found they were incorrect as they were straight ended however like your xk8 my x300 has banjo fittings on rear caliper .on speaking to them they were adamant the set they had sent was correct and that my brakes had obviously been changed . not so my jag has all iriginal equipment fitted .because it was over a year I could not return for refund so £ 90 out of pocket ..im not surprised they sent you wrong banjo bolts and a less observant guy may have just forced them in destroying the caliper. im very wary of ebc parts now .
Must admit, as a past user of their kit I was a bit shocked. The order and the packaging clearly states xK8.😫
@@ToTheGarage I just had the same issue with mine (made by HEL). Looks like everyone supplies the wrong banjo bolts for these calipers. (2001 model)
Hi John, the red are the actual pads or dust cover
Actual pads Pedro. Bothe the pad itself and the backplate are bright red. 'EBC Redstuff'
I wish I had a lift. Ate stands for Alfred Teves Engineering (Continental or Teves). I believe my pins are Torx, not Allen. Your banjo fittings are more like cigar box guitar fittings.
I actually did some production line improvement work for Continental Teves in South Wales, many years back. It was callipers for the Renault Laguna at the time.
John PS had to buy wireless headset
You are going to have to wean yourself off Bruce.
Me and the other subscribers will have to do an intervention😁.👍