@25:11 Armenia is thought to have been converted to Christianity by 301 AD, so the 4th century rather than the "5th century". Gregory "the illuminator" or "the Parthian" (as he is recorded on the Amaras tombstone) was behind this conversion. As the nickname indicates, he was of Parthian origin (as most of the ruling clans in Armenia was, including the monarchy) but trained in the Roman Empire in the city of Caesarea in Cappadocia. Early Armenian depictions of the Cross show it in a Roman wreath with a "Gothic" Cross but later depictions utilise the Sassanian "Faravahar" wings with the Cross upon it. The famous Armenian Khatchkar design derives from this. This switch may have been to avoid being seen by the Persian monarchy as "Roman sympathisers". Christian communities in Mesopotamia also used that design, such as the Nestorians.
The video is wrong about the Parthian Shot. The Parthian Shot was the way a mounted archer could shoot the enemy while his horsewas still running away. So the archer would be pointed 180 degrees away from the horse's head. The tactic of feigning a retreat and then charging or having another unit of cavalry chatge has never been called the Parthian Shot.
That's what I've often heard... But your profile picture basically declares that you're mentally challenged and extremely gullible, or too much of a pussy to honestly examine facts, so that's what people are gonna focus on rather than what you write 😆
Your history is conflated AF, Zoroastrians endured so much destruction by muslims including muslim iranian that the reason why we don't know much about history of the region is islame the religion of none peace... such a great civilization sad that it ended up being conquered by subhuman desert wildman muslims, no great empire after Sassanids
No mention of Gondishapur University it was one of the three Sasanian centers of education It offered education and training in medicine, philosophy, astronomy,theology and science. According to The Cambridge History of Iran, it was the most important medical center of the ancient world
It isn't shocking to hear that any zoroastrian society would treated slaves better than any other Society really given that the three Commandments of the religion are to think good thoughts, say good words, and do good deeds. Since the early Iron Age followers of zarathustra have interpreted this to mean that slavery is not good and should be discouraged
Shapur gets adapted as Sapore in my language (Italian), literally meaning flavour. You have no idea how many jokes I've heard about it during history lessons.
@@OrangeBurgerSC706 the script u are using was given to you by destryers of great iran, Zoroastrians can be proud but muslims can't because they destryed it, read sources
Are you sure that Western knights copied the armored horseback model from the Byzantines? Weren't there massive northern Iranic invasions during the "barbarian invasions" period of the fall of Rome? They could have got the knight on horseback model directly from Iranic tribes without the Byzantine intermediary
Doesn't Zoroastrianism state women and men are equal? Which somewhat contradicts how you presented the Sassanid Persians, atleast this is what iv heard.
That may be an ideal for Zoroastrianism, but the ideals of a religion don't always translate directly into the way that the state is run and can also be mitigated by other cultural factors. Persian nobles liked to spend a large part of their time hunting and that was an activity just for men, to give but one example.
@@ThersitestheHistorian we often listen that rome conquered greece militarily but grece conquered rome as a civilisation .also that roman temples sculptures etc are slightly inferior than the greek ones When has it ever hapened in history that a ppl and a strong militarily one especialy would adopt and copy another ?even the gods and alphabet was similar. why didnt they copy Egypt?which was closer to their ruling mentality (yes they had senate but also eventualy rulers that played god) Lets add to that the fact ,that before Roman expansion Alexander the great expends Greece to the east but also to the South Egypt .He was buried there .Nefertiti was half greek,. ,That is the first of the kind big greek military expedition.and Alexander was Macedonian ,very close to ilirians and thracian tribes of which his army consisted ,speaking 4 languages .He also spoke adopted somewhat the athenian civilisation,he admired it was trained there but was not an Athenian i wonder could it be a shift hapened at that point? right after that Athens falls in the bckground forever , The military expeditions, from Romans become a patern.Aristotle ,Alexanders teacher had caled him back which shows that it wasnt in their mentality this kind of long time expeditions to conquer far away lands wasnt in their ambitions Do you think something changed at this point that we dunno abt? or that greeks and romans were more conected thAn we think?or maybe that Romans were Trojans and so were some generals from Alexanders army and they took the admiration for athenian art/civilisation further since they were first to reach as south as Egypt? Do we know anything about Alexanders influence on roman culture or was it independent?
Alekz Gavriel-Russo A lot of things you hear about Zarathushtrianism are said through the perspective of anti-Islam fanatics. Zarathushtrianism has actually many anti women ideas. Women are considered beings who want to seduce men(Naturally born with sexual sins) and this can be even seen in Sasanian based Persian literature from the Islamic era(legendery romantic tales of ancient kings) and their mythical beings like the Pari. If Islam wasn't around you would hear people criticise Zoroastrianism very similarly to Islam. 1. It also has an additional tax for non-Zoroastrians similar to Islam's jizyah 2. Incest is adviced. Cyrus the Great married his aunt. and etc... But now suddenly in the eyes of Crazy right wingers who close their eyes on Bible's worse than Quran's barbarism Zoroastrianism is a beautiful ancient culture that is completely destroyed by Islam despite the fact that Zoroastrianism is present in everyday Iranian life, Our weddings ceremonies, our mythology, our music, our way of thinking(dividing everything into good and bad etc..) The conclusion is that many religions have shitty aspects which most of its followers(atleast in modern times) close their eyes to.
Ethiopia and Armenia adopted Christianity as a state religion well before Rome in the fourth century CE, it was Christians fleeing Roman persecution that spread the faith to those countries.
TBQH, life in the Sasanian Empire sounds pretty great compared to other major empires of the same period: 1) Although slavery obviously existed, it was less widespread than in other societies and slaves seem to have had much stronger legal protections 2) The power of the Shahanshah had at least some limitations (for example he couldn’t kill people with impunity, even slaves) 3) Although the status of women was pretty poor, it sounds like they had at least some rights and protections, and I was pretty surprised to learn that two women ruled Persia in their own right during this period. China only ever had one woman achieve this in its entire history, and of course no woman ever ruled Rome; the Latin word for “Empress”, Imperatrix, doesn’t appear to have been in use during the Roman era 4) If you were lucky enough to be an aristocratic male, you got to spend most of your time hunting and horse-riding. This obviously wasn’t the case for most people, but still…
The Sassanids tried to erase the Parthian from history. The Sassanids hate the Parthians for not being Persian enough and occasionaly worshipping Hellenic deities alonside Iranic ones. The sassanids made sure nothing much was known about the parthians to legitimize their reign even further.
You wrong about the persian navy thay won many battles in 628-602 And nights are worse thay dont have armord horses and youse sowrds on armors not hamors And in the sassanid war of 602-628 they were fighting the turks and ethiopeans and supporting sui china and chandro something? In india
He was almost certainly talking of the flotilla they built ad-hoc to fight against Byzantium but that's also his error, because the main naval concern (almost the only one) of Sassanid Persia (or Persia through the centuries) was the Indian Ocean (incl. Persian Gulf) and for that vast area they must have got something better than what this video describes.
Overall this 30 minute video is not a bad summary of one of the greatest Dynasties of the history that lasted over 400 years. Your points about slavery and comparing that nearly to Nazi’s harsh and savage behavior was very unjustified, lacks any credibility and I believe is not supported at all by historic evidences. Also the portion that you are mentioning women’s right and find it worse that Greeks and Romans is totally biassed. Roman’s and Greeks were centuries behind Sassanians or Akamedians when it comes to women’s right or human’s right. Your points about their army was relatively informative and accurate. One more negative point is reference to movie 300 which was a purely political and biased movie and lacks any kind of credibility. If you want to summarize history you need stay out of politically biased Hollywood and stick to historic facts and evidenced. I give this video a 4 of 10.
Your videos would be a lot better if you actually prepared some kind of script instead of just talking on your own. This 30 minutes long video could be a lot shorter
Alot of your history contradicts other non islamic sources ive read. But like you said most western documentation is roman, greek, and arabic. So your studies are doomed from the start if theyre mostly or even partially roman or arabic. Such as the parts about women, slaves, Persian Navy, and society.
Very good....in relation to the concept of the knights, I would argue that it came to Medieval Europe via Ukraine.....and Byzantine Empire to the very end never copied the Sassanian in this respect, but continued to rely on heavy infantry in the best traditions of Rome. Finally the concept of the feudal knight, with heavily mounted Armour originated from the Parthians.......including the codes of chivalry. Possibly transmitted from Sassanid Persia by the Iranian speaking Alans in the Ukraine who migrated to France AND Spain....in the 5th 6th century AD.
A knight in sources refer to noble warriors. Romans had knights during the Punic war. But the Sassanids relied on their aristocracy for military matters more than any other empire at that time as the army’s were levied from noble fiefs exclusively as opposed to Romans who enlisted. Sassanids had no concept of enlistment as far as I know
@@Aristocles22 most likely India influenced the developmental stages of early Persian society which later on became the dominant culture in what later came to be known as Iran. This ofc reached a high point during the Sassanian era. Mind you...at no point did Indian society ever saw Persians as equal relegating Persians along with Greeks and Romans as "mleccha" or barbarians who are ritually impure and have the status of an untouchable.
@25:11 Armenia is thought to have been converted to Christianity by 301 AD, so the 4th century rather than the "5th century". Gregory "the illuminator" or "the Parthian" (as he is recorded on the Amaras tombstone) was behind this conversion. As the nickname indicates, he was of Parthian origin (as most of the ruling clans in Armenia was, including the monarchy) but trained in the Roman Empire in the city of Caesarea in Cappadocia. Early Armenian depictions of the Cross show it in a Roman wreath with a "Gothic" Cross but later depictions utilise the Sassanian "Faravahar" wings with the Cross upon it. The famous Armenian Khatchkar design derives from this. This switch may have been to avoid being seen by the Persian monarchy as "Roman sympathisers". Christian communities in Mesopotamia also used that design, such as the Nestorians.
Top notch informaiton, thanks
The video is wrong about the Parthian Shot.
The Parthian Shot was the way a mounted archer could shoot the enemy while his horsewas still running away. So the archer would be pointed 180 degrees away from the horse's head.
The tactic of feigning a retreat and then charging or having another unit of cavalry chatge has never been called the Parthian Shot.
That's what I've often heard...
But your profile picture basically declares that you're mentally challenged and extremely gullible, or too much of a pussy to honestly examine facts, so that's what people are gonna focus on rather than what you write 😆
Great Video, I'm gonna make a an alternate history video about what if Persia remained Zoroastrian. You might check it out tho!
Your history is conflated AF, Zoroastrians endured so much destruction by muslims including muslim iranian that the reason why we don't know much about history of the region is islame the religion of none peace... such a great civilization sad that it ended up being conquered by subhuman desert wildman muslims, no great empire after Sassanids
No mention of Gondishapur University it was one of the three Sasanian centers of education It offered education and training in medicine, philosophy, astronomy,theology and science. According to The Cambridge History of Iran, it was the most important medical center of the ancient world
Rubbish. taxila and purushpura were better , people from around asia came there
It isn't shocking to hear that any zoroastrian society would treated slaves better than any other Society really given that the three Commandments of the religion are to think good thoughts, say good words, and do good deeds. Since the early Iron Age followers of zarathustra have interpreted this to mean that slavery is not good and should be discouraged
Love the sassanids
Why does this channel have only 22k subscribers???
I'm proud to be a Persian!
You should be! An ancient and proud people.
ایران زنده باد و پیانده باد
Shapur gets adapted as Sapore in my language (Italian), literally meaning flavour.
You have no idea how many jokes I've heard about it during history lessons.
Interesting Shapur, is being Persian synonymous of being Afghani or is there still a distinction maintained between the culture groups?
@@OrangeBurgerSC706 the script u are using was given to you by destryers of great iran, Zoroastrians can be proud but muslims can't because they destryed it, read sources
What happened to the noble houses, any survived? I know house of Suren still is.
Capital of somalia and some eastern African countries have their names root in the name Karen, mihranids also went on to create the samanian empire
Are you sure that Western knights copied the armored horseback model from the Byzantines? Weren't there massive northern Iranic invasions during the "barbarian invasions" period of the fall of Rome? They could have got the knight on horseback model directly from Iranic tribes without the Byzantine intermediary
It’s really not one or the other.
Great work 👏👏
The Parthian shot was a horse archer that could shoot arrows not only forwards and sideways but Also backwards in full galop
Doesn't Zoroastrianism state women and men are equal? Which somewhat contradicts how you presented the Sassanid Persians, atleast this is what iv heard.
That may be an ideal for Zoroastrianism, but the ideals of a religion don't always translate directly into the way that the state is run and can also be mitigated by other cultural factors. Persian nobles liked to spend a large part of their time hunting and that was an activity just for men, to give but one example.
@@ThersitestheHistorian ah understood and makes total sense, thanks for the response!
@@ThersitestheHistorian Please make video on India and it's religions of Saivism, Buddhism, Jainism, Vaishnavism etc etc
@@ThersitestheHistorian we often listen that rome conquered greece militarily but grece conquered rome as a civilisation .also that roman temples sculptures etc are slightly inferior than the greek ones
When has it ever hapened in history that a ppl and a strong militarily one especialy would adopt and copy another ?even the gods and alphabet was similar. why didnt they copy Egypt?which was closer to their ruling mentality (yes they had senate but also eventualy rulers that played god)
Lets add to that the fact ,that before Roman expansion Alexander the great expends Greece to the east but also to the South Egypt .He was buried there .Nefertiti was half greek,.
,That is the first of the kind big greek military expedition.and Alexander was Macedonian ,very close to ilirians and thracian tribes of which his army consisted ,speaking 4 languages .He also spoke adopted somewhat the athenian civilisation,he admired it was trained there but was not an Athenian
i wonder could it be a shift hapened at that point?
right after that Athens falls in the bckground forever , The military expeditions, from Romans become a patern.Aristotle ,Alexanders teacher had caled him back which shows that it wasnt in their mentality this kind of long time expeditions to conquer far away lands wasnt in their ambitions
Do you think something changed at this point that we dunno abt? or that greeks and romans were more conected thAn we think?or maybe that Romans were Trojans and so were some generals from Alexanders army and they took the admiration for athenian art/civilisation further since they were first to reach as south as Egypt?
Do we know anything about Alexanders influence on roman culture or was it independent?
Alekz Gavriel-Russo A lot of things you hear about Zarathushtrianism are said through the perspective of anti-Islam fanatics. Zarathushtrianism has actually many anti women ideas. Women are considered beings who want to seduce men(Naturally born with sexual sins) and this can be even seen in Sasanian based Persian literature from the Islamic era(legendery romantic tales of ancient kings) and their mythical beings like the Pari.
If Islam wasn't around you would hear people criticise Zoroastrianism very similarly to Islam.
1. It also has an additional tax for non-Zoroastrians similar to Islam's jizyah
2. Incest is adviced. Cyrus the Great married his aunt.
and etc... But now suddenly in the eyes of Crazy right wingers who close their eyes on Bible's worse than Quran's barbarism Zoroastrianism is a beautiful ancient culture that is completely destroyed by Islam despite the fact that Zoroastrianism is present in everyday Iranian life, Our weddings ceremonies, our mythology, our music, our way of thinking(dividing everything into good and bad etc..)
The conclusion is that many religions have shitty aspects which most of its followers(atleast in modern times) close their eyes to.
That ended abruptly.
Ethiopia and Armenia adopted Christianity as a state religion well before Rome in the fourth century CE, it was Christians fleeing Roman persecution that spread the faith to those countries.
Jokester30 Really, is that why the Roman emperor was present when Armenia adopted Christianity?
u try to hellenise every thing
TBQH, life in the Sasanian Empire sounds pretty great compared to other major empires of the same period:
1) Although slavery obviously existed, it was less widespread than in other societies and slaves seem to have had much stronger legal protections
2) The power of the Shahanshah had at least some limitations (for example he couldn’t kill people with impunity, even slaves)
3) Although the status of women was pretty poor, it sounds like they had at least some rights and protections, and I was pretty surprised to learn that two women ruled Persia in their own right during this period. China only ever had one woman achieve this in its entire history, and of course no woman ever ruled Rome; the Latin word for “Empress”, Imperatrix, doesn’t appear to have been in use during the Roman era
4) If you were lucky enough to be an aristocratic male, you got to spend most of your time hunting and horse-riding. This obviously wasn’t the case for most people, but still…
Source limits are also why the Central Asian groups of people are somewhat mysterious, it doesn't help that the Parthian didn't write much down
The Sassanids tried to erase the Parthian from history. The Sassanids hate the Parthians for not being Persian enough and occasionaly worshipping Hellenic deities alonside Iranic ones. The sassanids made sure nothing much was known about the parthians to legitimize their reign even further.
You wrong about the persian navy thay won many battles in 628-602
And nights are worse thay dont have armord horses and youse sowrds on armors not hamors
And in the sassanid war of 602-628 they were fighting the turks and ethiopeans and supporting sui china and chandro something? In india
No wonder they went bank rubbed
He was almost certainly talking of the flotilla they built ad-hoc to fight against Byzantium but that's also his error, because the main naval concern (almost the only one) of Sassanid Persia (or Persia through the centuries) was the Indian Ocean (incl. Persian Gulf) and for that vast area they must have got something better than what this video describes.
Surely ruin is pronounced roo-in not roin?
Iran is not extremely hot in every places . the info is so outdated
Overall this 30 minute video is not a bad summary of one of the greatest Dynasties of the history that lasted over 400 years. Your points about slavery and comparing that nearly to Nazi’s harsh and savage behavior was very unjustified, lacks any credibility and I believe is not supported at all by historic evidences. Also the portion that you are mentioning women’s right and find it worse that Greeks and Romans is totally biassed. Roman’s and Greeks were centuries behind Sassanians or Akamedians when it comes to women’s right or human’s right. Your points about their army was relatively informative and accurate. One more negative point is reference to movie 300 which was a purely political and biased movie and lacks any kind of credibility. If you want to summarize history you need stay out of politically biased Hollywood and stick to historic facts and evidenced. I give this video a 4 of 10.
Your videos would be a lot better if you actually prepared some kind of script instead of just talking on your own. This 30 minutes long video could be a lot shorter
Tyspwn.
Alot of your history contradicts other non islamic sources ive read. But like you said most western documentation is roman, greek, and arabic. So your studies are doomed from the start if theyre mostly or even partially roman or arabic. Such as the parts about women, slaves, Persian Navy, and society.
This is not actually an argument.
It wasent as hot back in the day
Very good....in relation to the concept of the knights, I would argue that it came to Medieval Europe via Ukraine.....and Byzantine Empire to the very end never copied the Sassanian in this respect, but continued to rely on heavy infantry in the best traditions of Rome. Finally the concept of the feudal knight, with heavily mounted Armour originated from the Parthians.......including the codes of chivalry. Possibly transmitted from Sassanid Persia by the Iranian speaking Alans in the Ukraine who migrated to France AND Spain....in the 5th 6th century AD.
A knight in sources refer to noble warriors. Romans had knights during the Punic war. But the Sassanids relied on their aristocracy for military matters more than any other empire at that time as the army’s were levied from noble fiefs exclusively as opposed to Romans who enlisted. Sassanids had no concept of enlistment as far as I know
Naqshe Rostam by the way.
I stopped watching right after you referenced the movie 300.
bruh that was like 30 seconds of a 30 minute video
Nobody cares
Tespon.
Your videos would go up a huge amount in quality if you spoke more directly and edited out hmms and such
Culture highly matches with Indian culture
Both are Indo-European, and Iran is not too far from India. Caste system and all.
@@Aristocles22 most likely India influenced the developmental stages of early Persian society which later on became the dominant culture in what later came to be known as Iran. This ofc reached a high point during the Sassanian era.
Mind you...at no point did Indian society ever saw Persians as equal relegating Persians along with Greeks and Romans as "mleccha" or barbarians who are ritually impure and have the status of an untouchable.
Tyspwn.