That would suit me down to the ground if it were about £15k. I am amazed that the ZE40 I bought in 2017 for £17800 is so competitive on range still and prices seem higher than then. Another good used buy. £32 k is more than a discounted new Mercedes SLC costs!
They are giving away the Honda e because people don't want to buy it ? Could you point me to a dealership which does that ? It certainly isn't the case in my neck of the woods. Quite the opposite : prices aren't negotiated and waiting lists get longer and longer.
Seems to be standard for legacy manufacturers to pad the price of the EV equivalent to the petrol version by £10k at least. They really do not want us to buy too many EVs whilst they are still trying g to milk the ICE for a few more years.
they just milk the gov. money, the gov gives 5-10k (now dropping) for new EVs and they just gulp that in the price, pretty funny how the gov straight face lying about wanting to be 'eco' the same way these companies do
James, whenever you do videos by yourself the audio is quite often one sided. Can do something with your equipment to rectify this? It's rather off putting for those of us that use headphones. When Kate does videos, the audio is usually in stereo, so I can't quite fathom why yours is one sided and Kate's isn't, unless you both use different equipment of course.
I am watching RUclips through Apple TV to tv, when James is driving I hear only music. I hear James fine when car stationary or inserted advert. All fine if I watch through phone. Other vids I have watched are fine, eg Kate in ePug etc
You tested the Cabrio 500e with costs more than a regular 500e. The 500e starts at £20495 for the Action to £27495 for the La Prima with plug-in grant. This car you tested with a cabrio roof would if ICE would be a 500c which cost more the the 500 fixed roof. The Cabrio Passion is £26495 and the La Prima Cabrio £30495 with grant. The Cabrio adds an extra £3000 for a canvas roof La Prima. The basis 500e is not bad value in my option.
Interesting that you thought the price would come down and lots would be available. It's now nine months later. I've been trying to buy one for the last 3 weeks and there just aren't any available, they're all getting snapped up. I finished up buying an ex demo car, same speck as the one you're testing. I agree, pricey but Fiat have given the punters just what they want. Well done Fiat and thanks for the review.
Hey, James. Good review. I think it would have been good to mention that the basic 500 electric is on Fiat’s UK website at £20,500. Sorry if I missed it. No sunroof, obvs. I think they will probably start making cheaper models of the Cabrio as time goes on. It could be fun to do a shoot out between the 500 and a Smart Fortwo (ignoring the battery size differential).
its a great price but the tiny battery and range, plus its really a base spec mean you could really argue the base 42kwh version is better value. But if you can live with the lower range (70ish miles?) around town its a good price
I love this Fiat EV, but in general, the 🔋🔋 do have a long way to go before it can provide real long distance journeys. The other hiccup is charging times and if you live in a community complex with no electricity in your open carport, you're screwed! Until prices become truly affordable and the range on a full charge is really great, then EV's would make a real impact.
Thanx for the review! On the prices of Fiat, at least on the continent: Fiat has the tradition offering (very) good discounts, thus I would expect the market prices to lower in 2021.
We were moments away from pressing the "order" button on my salary deduction lease last night. The cabriolet came in at £255 a month (nett and inclusive of insurance and servicing etc). The only issue was we've been sharing our main car (EV) since the pandemic as I'm now 99% a home worker and couldn't justify leaving an e-tron in the drive unused all week. Gutted, as we really love the idea of having a rag top.
Agree' open air motoring fresh air go hand in hand with electric cars. How ever a e-tron with windows down not to bad consolation 😀🌍open top e-tron/ small Audi?
My wife currently has a the ICE version of the Fiat 500 model and she loves it !. It is a very popular car with the ladies. My daughter has owned three 500's and currently has the Abarth version. I would love my wife to have the 500e to sit alongside our other EV. But at that price, it is not going to happen I am afraid James. It is a real shame, because a LOT of current owners could be tempted to go EV. But the price point is just too high I think. Unless money is no object of course.
I've walked past Renault dealership the other day and there was 70 plate Zoe selling for £22000. At the same time, Renault website says Zoe starts from £27000. So I'm pretty sure Fiat500e won't cost £in real life
Great review as always😀🌍 you have so much EV experience. Agree price should come down I say GOVERMENT TAX TOXIC FOSSIL☠⛽☠ subsidise evs! We only have 6 years to cut toxic fossil emissions! 🌍😯 KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK 👍😁 open air motoring fresh air go hand in hand with electric cars. All the best buzz PS what do you think of Tesla and poss under 25k new car?
Nothing wrong the video but audio only coming out of one speaker for me just thought I'd mention it in case you weren't aware. Still got a thumbs up cracking & informative as always. Update: 2nd speaker kicked back in at 6:22
Still too expensive by a very large margin. When the better Chinese EVs come in the next couple of years and the new small Tesla comes, they will have to drop the price. They are still only making them to avoid emissions fines for their profitable ICE vehicles. The production numbers are tiny by comparison. All that is a shame, because it’s a decent EV.
With that price level it seems strange that Fiat promise that all their EV's will be priced around the same as their ICE models in the near future, when Fiat goes electric only.
I think you underestimate how many wealthy fashion conscious people live in cities - range or price not a problem - they will most likely spend a further fortune on 'enhancements'. There are plenty of cheaper variants available; I think FIAT are being pretty canny.
Why is it that it’s ok to complain about the price of a 500 electric cabrio, but the mini e is just as expensive, and seriously ugly and is not a convertible?
Android auto? Sorry James but for once can't agree as I think it looks pig ugly, not that it will put some people off as looks are subjective fortunately!
Way too expensive, nice toy car though.. Manufacturers need to get real with their prices, they appear to be trying to rob people on the streets, Highway Robbery it is! ✌🇬🇧
Fiat 500e with 500km range.. a man can dream right?
Your reviews are refreshingly candid and balanced...thank you...
I’ve just ordered one of these, can’t wait to get it.
That would suit me down to the ground if it were about £15k. I am amazed that the ZE40 I bought in 2017 for £17800 is so competitive on range still and prices seem higher than then. Another good used buy. £32 k is more than a discounted new Mercedes SLC costs!
They are giving away the Honda e because people don't want to buy it ? Could you point me to a dealership which does that ? It certainly isn't the case in my neck of the woods. Quite the opposite : prices aren't negotiated and waiting lists get longer and longer.
Ex demo cars is probably what he is referring to as I’ve seen some Advance models for around £23k.
Seems to be standard for legacy manufacturers to pad the price of the EV equivalent to the petrol version by £10k at least. They really do not want us to buy too many EVs whilst they are still trying g to milk the ICE for a few more years.
Here in Germany you can get the EV version for around 25k€ and the petrol one for around 20k. So not that a big diffence.
@@digitalfotonetz ... you are lucky... not so competitive in Rip-off Britain.
The UK price for city car EV's always seems to be the price in Euros with the just the currency symbol changed; it's very frustrating.
they just milk the gov. money, the gov gives 5-10k (now dropping) for new EVs and they just gulp that in the price, pretty funny how the gov straight face lying about wanting to be 'eco' the same way these companies do
James, whenever you do videos by yourself the audio is quite often one sided. Can do something with your equipment to rectify this? It's rather off putting for those of us that use headphones. When Kate does videos, the audio is usually in stereo, so I can't quite fathom why yours is one sided and Kate's isn't, unless you both use different equipment of course.
yeah his audio is only coming out of the left side channel.
I am watching RUclips through Apple TV to tv, when James is driving I hear only music. I hear James fine when car stationary or inserted advert. All fine if I watch through phone. Other vids I have watched are fine, eg Kate in ePug etc
Yes the audio is in stereo but the volume levels are very different, right is there but very quiet.
You tested the Cabrio 500e with costs more than a regular 500e. The 500e starts at £20495 for the Action to £27495 for the La Prima with plug-in grant. This car you tested with a cabrio roof would if ICE would be a 500c which cost more the the 500 fixed roof. The Cabrio Passion is £26495 and the La Prima Cabrio £30495 with grant. The Cabrio adds an extra £3000 for a canvas roof La Prima. The basis 500e is not bad value in my option.
Agreed I got la prima with winter pack 26495 and range 200 miles nothing similar to this car in competition
Interesting that you thought the price would come down and lots would be available. It's now nine months later. I've been trying to buy one for the last 3 weeks and there just aren't any available, they're all getting snapped up. I finished up buying an ex demo car, same speck as the one you're testing. I agree, pricey but Fiat have given the punters just what they want. Well done Fiat and thanks for the review.
very good sensible comments, what a change to the normal car rubbish they spout you & Sandy Munroe the best
1:15 *Sunshine and roof open James, are you against a Green Screen ?*
Great video and thanks for highlighting the ridiculous prices of ev’s at the moment. Roll on price parity then the real Ev revolution can start. 🙏
How did you turn off the fake sound? I couldn't find such option in my cousin's
*Ideal Car to Tow behind your £100k Camper Van and have a runabout whilst on Holiday in Summertime - sneaky recharge up on campsite overnight !*
Quick price update. Just ordered a high spec Red edition for £187 a month!!
Hey, James. Good review. I think it would have been good to mention that the basic 500 electric is on Fiat’s UK website at £20,500. Sorry if I missed it. No sunroof, obvs. I think they will probably start making cheaper models of the Cabrio as time goes on. It could be fun to do a shoot out between the 500 and a Smart Fortwo (ignoring the battery size differential).
its a great price but the tiny battery and range, plus its really a base spec mean you could really argue the base 42kwh version is better value. But if you can live with the lower range (70ish miles?) around town its a good price
The audio is left channel only. :(
I love this Fiat EV, but in general, the 🔋🔋 do have a long way to go before it can provide real long distance journeys. The other hiccup is charging times and if you live in a community complex with no electricity in your open carport, you're screwed! Until prices become truly affordable and the range on a full charge is really great, then EV's would make a real impact.
The basic 500e is in the low £20k
Great video
Thanx for the review! On the prices of Fiat, at least on the continent: Fiat has the tradition offering (very) good discounts, thus I would expect the market prices to lower in 2021.
We were moments away from pressing the "order" button on my salary deduction lease last night. The cabriolet came in at £255 a month (nett and inclusive of insurance and servicing etc). The only issue was we've been sharing our main car (EV) since the pandemic as I'm now 99% a home worker and couldn't justify leaving an e-tron in the drive unused all week. Gutted, as we really love the idea of having a rag top.
Agree' open air motoring fresh air go hand in hand with electric cars. How ever a e-tron with windows down not to bad consolation 😀🌍open top e-tron/ small Audi?
@@buzzofftoxicblog791 LOL, yes! Windows down means no need for AC which in turn keeps miles per kWh up a little. Much needed in the e-tron!
@@tonybkent yes but what you win by turning off the ac you will lose by the added drag of the open windows, what a dilemma LOL.
@@paulvanderhaegen761 First world problems, eh?!
Hi James - Nice car, shame about the price !.
My wife currently has a the ICE version of the Fiat 500 model and she loves it !. It is a very popular car with the ladies. My daughter has owned three 500's and currently has the Abarth version. I would love my wife to have the 500e to sit alongside our other EV. But at that price, it is not going to happen I am afraid James. It is a real shame, because a LOT of current owners could be tempted to go EV. But the price point is just too high I think. Unless money is no object of course.
Need more convertible EVs!
Nice sunroof aside, why buy this over a £20k less Fiesta? It provides nowhere near the ICE Fiesta or equivalent's utility.
I've walked past Renault dealership the other day and there was 70 plate Zoe selling for £22000. At the same time, Renault website says Zoe starts from £27000. So I'm pretty sure Fiat500e won't cost £in real life
The price is Stellantis price setting... And then the boss of Stellantis is saying they can't make it cheaper
Great review as always😀🌍 you have so much EV experience. Agree price should come down I say GOVERMENT TAX TOXIC FOSSIL☠⛽☠ subsidise evs! We only have 6 years to cut toxic fossil emissions! 🌍😯 KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK 👍😁 open air motoring fresh air go hand in hand with electric cars. All the best buzz PS what do you think of Tesla and poss under 25k new car?
That branded stitching on the seats is a bit much….
I just wish the new Fiat Panda electric would hurry up.
But pity that it looks like it'll be at least one or two class of vehicle above it.
Nothing wrong the video but audio only coming out of one speaker for me just thought I'd mention it in case you weren't aware. Still got a thumbs up cracking & informative as always.
Update: 2nd speaker kicked back in at 6:22
Still too expensive by a very large margin. When the better Chinese EVs come in the next couple of years and the new small Tesla comes, they will have to drop the price. They are still only making them to avoid emissions fines for their profitable ICE vehicles. The production numbers are tiny by comparison.
All that is a shame, because it’s a decent EV.
With that price level it seems strange that Fiat promise that all their EV's will be priced around the same as their ICE models in the near future, when Fiat goes electric only.
Dont buy a fully loaded Version and you should and up with 25k. After the grand.
Fiat don't quite yet understand electric cars.
I think you underestimate how many wealthy fashion conscious people live in cities - range or price not a problem - they will most likely spend a further fortune on 'enhancements'. There are plenty of cheaper variants available; I think FIAT are being pretty canny.
That's one expensive sunroof!
Why is it that it’s ok to complain about the price of a 500 electric cabrio, but the mini e is just as expensive, and seriously ugly and is not a convertible?
Android auto? Sorry James but for once can't agree as I think it looks pig ugly, not that it will put some people off as looks are subjective fortunately!
Way too expensive, nice toy car though..
Manufacturers need to get real with their prices, they appear to be trying to rob people on the streets, Highway Robbery it is! ✌🇬🇧