Dude I excitedly on to your website to see what else you had and found that you have abandoned your channel where is very disappointing because you seem like a good guy very knowledgeable and I very much enjoyed your video I learned a lot that no one else is posting
This is an incredible video, the best on the internet and really the turning point for me for getting goats after seeing your video. You explain everything and name the components needed. Realize you impact alot of people with your videos with your knowledge. I am an engineer for the NY power grid and have no clue about goats but have been interested in some time after raising chickens and playing with the premier1 stuff; so i know fencing is key. Thanks for this excellent video, appreciate it!
Thanks for posting - I love your opinion on all the different types of wires. I am looking at getting step ins for my sheep. Do you have dogs to protect the goats? How do you keep them safe from predictors at night?
Very helpful and good advice. We are also busy rigging up ours now, so I will be borrowing some ideas. You deserve more views. As I am a boer (afrikaans for farmer), we also commonly keep these here. Pronounced boo-r (like you, not oar). What is the pulse interval on yours? Mine is 1 hz, which always gives me the idea they can get tangled in it between two pulses, THEN freak out and destroy the fence :D
Can you recommend someone in the texas area or surrounding states even, that has goats in electric netting? I cannot find anyone. I'd really like to get some from someone who is doing what I want to do. Thanks!
We did about 12 feet I believe on this one, but we weren't using 12.5ga. I do use 12.5 now though (and like it a lot better), and you can get away with putting them a bit farther apart. In a high tensile situation with minimal elevation changes, you can put posts a lot farther apart. We just put up a new high tensile fence using Timeless fiberglass posts and put the posts 20 feet apart. If you're fencing in goats, I'd do somewhere between 12 and 20 feet, depending on how tight you're tensioning and how much your land dips and swells. If you have a dip in the ground and you've got your posts 20 feet apart, you're going to leave a large gap for the animals to get through, and they certainly will take advantage of that.
Jules aren't how hot a fence is. It's the kilovolts that hurt and yours was at 1300 something volts which is what gives it pop. Jules are like the torque that pushes the power the distance. My hotwire is like 2 Miles and 12000 volts so it's hot but only over short distances.
I have used a couple of different types, but usually I grab whatever the local farm store has. Just a big spool of bare galvanized wire. They typically have 17ga. wire which is a bit thin but holds up fine. For a charger, use as strong as a charger as you're willing to get. Goats will test a fence and if you sue a cheap or low powered solar charger they'll just take the hit and go on through. I have an 18 joule charger that does the trick. It hurts like the dickens :)
@@rchaider Do you ever roll up your bare galvanized wire, or are those installations relatively permanent? If you roll it up, what type of reels do you use / do you use a drill or hand roll? Thanks!
Is 10 inches not low enough for the bottom wire? I could use some goats, but they have to stay in or the coyotes will "love them" more. Also will have LGD's later. Making silvopasture from forest. Tight is Right for fencing, every type.
Well shucks shirly I thought you might answer by now and here I am again 10 months later-clearing for new fences and buying a new charger. I'm thinking 5 J might be enough. Things get pricey after that, and my fencelines aren't that long yet. All HT, but I'm debating number and placement of wires. Anybuddy with goats behind HT hotwire can advise?
@@wadepatton2433 You need a minimum of 6000v for goats, the higher the joules the better. Mine varies between 8500v at 9 joules to 7 -7500 at 12 joules depending what I'm hooked up to. If you buy big (energizer) you buy once. 10 inches is way to high, 4 - 5" max. On permanent interior fences I put a well strained barbed wire at the bottom then two or three hot wires above that.
@@brewsterly2927 Thanks, yes I know about high-power chargers. I'm now putting my bottom wire at 6 inches and grounded, then hots above that. I'll give them ample training with some and then those that won't stay in, will be culled. I'll be moving them around a lot, so maybe they won't be so inclined to escape as those on "permanent" pasture.
@@brewsterly2927 I'm going with 5J Cyclops for my six acres here at the house. I'll bump it up a few J's on my 73 acres-where fence inspections will be less frequent because rugged terrain.
@@wadepatton2433 Yes, sounds like your on the right track. The best, by far, way of training goats to electric fence I have found, is to train them in a yard/ pen/paddock that has a completely goat proof fence behind the electric wires.
Hey Matthew. 12 foot spacing on those line posts (brace posts excluded of course). In terms of cost and ease of use, yes still very handy. I also have had great success lately with an "offset electric" approach. That's any kind of static non-electrified fencing (like barbed wire) and then putting 8" in a lower, two strand offset bare wire electric. It's not as easy to put up of course but it will last a really long time.
These are the ones I use. They also sell the additional clips (on the same site) that attach to the posts to add additional lines. valleyfarmsupply.store/collections/10-gallagher-fence-posts-step-in-posts-and-fence-reels/products/250-heavy-duty-ring-top-posts-free-usa-shipping
Yeah solar chargers just don't quite do the trick for us. The AC powered ones are much much cheaper. I've taken to using underground buried cable (just grab a spool in the fencing section of your local farm store) and running that across the field or through the woods up to an existing AC powered fence or to your charger in the barn. Obviously that won't work if it's crazy far away, but you can get really long runs doing it this way. I just don't put goats on solar anymore because they'll eventually get out (at least with my Premiere 1 charger).
We're in Missouri, pretty normal Midwest temps. Summers in the 80s (sometimes 90s) and winters below freezing. No don't have much foot problems. Have had a few in the past when we first get them from a new place but they get taken care of and do fine.
Yep well I think I stuffed up. Had my goats inside the electric fencing with out it being energised, and they went through it.. woops. Now when they approach it energized or not they go straight through it. 3 joule energiser
These are only "semi-permanent" for us. In the snowy winter months, I'd bring them up by the barn and not keep the strand quite so low. Once the goats are used to the fence, they stop experimenting with it and poking through anyway. You can definitely move it up a bit higher over time. But yeah, in the snow, this isn't going to work very well.
We haven't had any problem with coyotes or neighbor dogs. We do have a large dog ourselves and he keeps most things away on his own, so I might not be the best judge. The favorite fence I show around the 8-9 minute mark would for sure keep out all predators.
Most of my acreage is wooded steep hills and valley. Only thing I can think to put on it is goats. Would this be a better option than just a regular fence? Is there even a “good” option for that rough a terrain?
I just fenced in a new section of about 6 wooded acres. This type of fencing works great! If you have a lot of ups and downs, you might not want to tighten the cranks down too tight so you don't put too much pressure on your fasteners.
First you said to have the bottom line very close to the ground like an inch off the ground and then you put the bottom line five inches off the ground. Confusing.
I love people like you but tell me what's really useful I have five acres run 3 wire bare wire for pigs worked great pigs never got out I have the low wire for the piglets problem is apparently the bloodline I created turned aggressive of towards my children and frankly myself for the big bores I have removed those pigs we have none and I wanted goats and Cooney Cooney pigs those little gentle grass eaters but I was afraid to go to wouldn't stay in I'm going to try bring some in Cooney Cooney and goats should live fine together your info is worth a lot thank you sir
I actually need this for my dog's they keep jumping the fence and terrorizing my neighbors. The invisible fence is gay doesn't work for them. Have a male cane Corso and female Dogo Argentina. They're a handful. This is the last resort I have to keep them in thank you for sharing this video.
Guarantee they won't if you've got a 16-20 joule charger on that bad boy. It hurts like the dickens. They get zapped a time or two and then run off and pout.
my goats are sick and twisted. they seem to like the electric fence. but i want you to show me how it works. just because i tripple dog dare you to stick your tounge on it. i wanna make sure you did a good job on the install. so once again i tripple dog dare you to stick your tounge on it if not the whole internet will laugh at you. so comeon show us all how well it works. i promise iw ill laugh at you so will everyone else
To be a dork, I've been on the fence about trying electric for the goats but since seeing this, I will give it a shot
Dude I excitedly on to your website to see what else you had and found that you have abandoned your channel where is very disappointing because you seem like a good guy very knowledgeable and I very much enjoyed your video I learned a lot that no one else is posting
Your Son is smart ambitious so good to see. That was brave to go into lake to save bucket and not waste it. He will grow up to be a good man
You helped me out in a pinch more than you could know with this video. Thank you very much.
This is an incredible video, the best on the internet and really the turning point for me for getting goats after seeing your video. You explain everything and name the components needed. Realize you impact alot of people with your videos with your knowledge. I am an engineer for the NY power grid and have no clue about goats but have been interested in some time after raising chickens and playing with the premier1 stuff; so i know fencing is key. Thanks for this excellent video, appreciate it!
Great to hear!
@@thenoblefarmer1046judydruetto
Beautiful place you have. Thanks for sharing. My roaming nomads may not be rambling for long now. 🐐
Excellent video. I'm planning on buying some goats to clear some brush and this was just what I was looking for.
Thanks for posting - I love your opinion on all the different types of wires. I am looking at getting step ins for my sheep. Do you have dogs to protect the goats? How do you keep them safe from predictors at night?
You have healthy good looking herd of goats. Thank you
Great Vid! Learned a lot about the different configurations
I use the same Parmak fence charger but the mainboard went out on mine. Do you happen to know where to replacement parts for that?
Next episode he is going to show the goats in the middle of the pond on the kayak 🐐 🛶
How many jules is the one where the goats are at next to the dam?
Having kept goats in the past, the term “ fencing goats” is about the same as “herding cats”…..
I can't stop laughing.
Herding cats...😂🤣🤣😂
Thank you for sharing this important information
How close is close ? How far from the ground?
You don’t electrify the swing gate to keep goats off and predators out?
Thank you, I should have started building fence a week ago
Very helpful and good advice. We are also busy rigging up ours now, so I will be borrowing some ideas. You deserve more views. As I am a boer (afrikaans for farmer), we also commonly keep these here. Pronounced boo-r (like you, not oar).
What is the pulse interval on yours? Mine is 1 hz, which always gives me the idea they can get tangled in it between two pulses, THEN freak out and destroy the fence :D
Can you recommend someone in the texas area or surrounding states even, that has goats in electric netting? I cannot find anyone. I'd really like to get some from someone who is doing what I want to do. Thanks!
How many joules is your solar charger?
Where can I buy this type of fence ?
how far apart do you put the T post for 12 1/2 gauge wire,thank you
We did about 12 feet I believe on this one, but we weren't using 12.5ga. I do use 12.5 now though (and like it a lot better), and you can get away with putting them a bit farther apart. In a high tensile situation with minimal elevation changes, you can put posts a lot farther apart. We just put up a new high tensile fence using Timeless fiberglass posts and put the posts 20 feet apart. If you're fencing in goats, I'd do somewhere between 12 and 20 feet, depending on how tight you're tensioning and how much your land dips and swells. If you have a dip in the ground and you've got your posts 20 feet apart, you're going to leave a large gap for the animals to get through, and they certainly will take advantage of that.
Jules aren't how hot a fence is. It's the kilovolts that hurt and yours was at 1300 something volts which is what gives it pop. Jules are like the torque that pushes the power the distance. My hotwire is like 2 Miles and 12000 volts so it's hot but only over short distances.
I like using timeless fence post
For your favorite fence at around 8 min, what kind of weird did you use? Also, what charger do you recommend for Goats. We have three acres to do :).
I have used a couple of different types, but usually I grab whatever the local farm store has. Just a big spool of bare galvanized wire. They typically have 17ga. wire which is a bit thin but holds up fine. For a charger, use as strong as a charger as you're willing to get. Goats will test a fence and if you sue a cheap or low powered solar charger they'll just take the hit and go on through. I have an 18 joule charger that does the trick. It hurts like the dickens :)
@@rchaider Do you ever roll up your bare galvanized wire, or are those installations relatively permanent? If you roll it up, what type of reels do you use / do you use a drill or hand roll? Thanks!
Is 10 inches not low enough for the bottom wire? I could use some goats, but they have to stay in or the coyotes will "love them" more. Also will have LGD's later. Making silvopasture from forest. Tight is Right for fencing, every type.
Well shucks shirly I thought you might answer by now and here I am again 10 months later-clearing for new fences and buying a new charger. I'm thinking 5 J might be enough. Things get pricey after that, and my fencelines aren't that long yet. All HT, but I'm debating number and placement of wires. Anybuddy with goats behind HT hotwire can advise?
@@wadepatton2433
You need a minimum of 6000v for goats, the higher the joules the better. Mine varies between 8500v at 9 joules to 7 -7500 at 12 joules depending what I'm hooked up to.
If you buy big (energizer) you buy once.
10 inches is way to high, 4 - 5" max. On permanent interior fences I put a well strained barbed wire at the bottom then two or three hot wires above that.
@@brewsterly2927 Thanks, yes I know about high-power chargers. I'm now putting my bottom wire at 6 inches and grounded, then hots above that. I'll give them ample training with some and then those that won't stay in, will be culled. I'll be moving them around a lot, so maybe they won't be so inclined to escape as those on "permanent" pasture.
@@brewsterly2927 I'm going with 5J Cyclops for my six acres here at the house. I'll bump it up a few J's on my 73 acres-where fence inspections will be less frequent because rugged terrain.
@@wadepatton2433 Yes, sounds like your on the right track.
The best, by far, way of training goats to electric fence I have found, is to train them in a yard/ pen/paddock that has a completely goat proof fence behind the electric wires.
8 minutes in what is you post spacing and do you still think its you favorite fence?
Hey Matthew. 12 foot spacing on those line posts (brace posts excluded of course). In terms of cost and ease of use, yes still very handy. I also have had great success lately with an "offset electric" approach. That's any kind of static non-electrified fencing (like barbed wire) and then putting 8" in a lower, two strand offset bare wire electric. It's not as easy to put up of course but it will last a really long time.
@@thenoblefarmer1046 awesome thanks for the reply we are newly in to sheep
What gauge wire is that bare wire
Did I miss it or do you not use grounding rods?
Yep, we have grounding rods. I have a system of 5 rods.
@@thenoblefarmer1046what happens if you don’t use a grounding rod
Can't find the "metal core" plastic step in posts you are referring to. Have they been discontinued?
These are the ones I use. They also sell the additional clips (on the same site) that attach to the posts to add additional lines. valleyfarmsupply.store/collections/10-gallagher-fence-posts-step-in-posts-and-fence-reels/products/250-heavy-duty-ring-top-posts-free-usa-shipping
Is that a red brand fence behind you in the beginning of your video?
Yes it is. I really like it
Can I get away with less than 18 joules? I’m putting 2 dwarf Nubians on like a half acre. What I’m seeing is solar is closer to $1k for this?
Yeah solar chargers just don't quite do the trick for us. The AC powered ones are much much cheaper. I've taken to using underground buried cable (just grab a spool in the fencing section of your local farm store) and running that across the field or through the woods up to an existing AC powered fence or to your charger in the barn. Obviously that won't work if it's crazy far away, but you can get really long runs doing it this way. I just don't put goats on solar anymore because they'll eventually get out (at least with my Premiere 1 charger).
You need a min of 6000v, 6kV, for goats, you don't need many joules for 1/2 acre.
Good to know information. Great video.
Isn't a pain to weedeat below the first line ?
Our kiko...is a jumping athlete...like insane...not even kidding...
Might make good tacos 🌮
How do you keep the weeds from grounding out the lowest strands?
I use a realllly strong energizer so it a bit of grass doesn't hurt it, and have several farm hands (a.k.a. children) who go out and weed eat :)
Once you get the charger going, leave it on. Do not be tempted to shut off power to paddocks that are not being used.
What is the mean average temp seasonally in your area and do you have foot problems with your goats?
We're in Missouri, pretty normal Midwest temps. Summers in the 80s (sometimes 90s) and winters below freezing. No don't have much foot problems. Have had a few in the past when we first get them from a new place but they get taken care of and do fine.
How many goats do you have and about what size area do you rotate them through at a time?
Number of goats is a moving target but roughly 10, moving around several different acres.
Yep well I think I stuffed up. Had my goats inside the electric fencing with out it being energised, and they went through it.. woops.
Now when they approach it energized or not they go straight through it.
3 joule energiser
Cerca elétrica bem feito e a solução para pequeno ruminantes
What about that low wire in the snow? Don't they short out?
These are only "semi-permanent" for us. In the snowy winter months, I'd bring them up by the barn and not keep the strand quite so low. Once the goats are used to the fence, they stop experimenting with it and poking through anyway. You can definitely move it up a bit higher over time. But yeah, in the snow, this isn't going to work very well.
Great information, thanks!
Thank you! Great video !
That was helpful, thank you.
What happens when you have a power cut?
Nothing for the solar ones!
How does it do keeping predators out ?
We haven't had any problem with coyotes or neighbor dogs. We do have a large dog ourselves and he keeps most things away on his own, so I might not be the best judge. The favorite fence I show around the 8-9 minute mark would for sure keep out all predators.
@@thenoblefarmer1046 Thanks, I really enjoy your channel
Most of my acreage is wooded steep hills and valley. Only thing I can think to put on it is goats. Would this be a better option than just a regular fence? Is there even a “good” option for that rough a terrain?
I just fenced in a new section of about 6 wooded acres. This type of fencing works great! If you have a lot of ups and downs, you might not want to tighten the cranks down too tight so you don't put too much pressure on your fasteners.
Any solar power chargers recommendations? Wooded acerage is what I'm up against.
My sister swore up and down she had a goat i couldnt keep fenced in. Crazy what a couple jules of energy does to determination 😅
Link for the posts?
Just added the link to the description. We buy ours at a local farm and home store.
Great video very useful information.
International business containers? That's a new name for IBC totes. 😂
Haha you're right. Whoops!
Do you need a herd or guard dog when have electric fence?
Yes we have livestock guardian dogs to protect our herd.
First you said to have the bottom line very close to the ground like an inch off the ground and then you put the bottom line five inches off the ground. Confusing.
I love people like you but tell me what's really useful I have five acres run 3 wire bare wire for pigs worked great pigs never got out I have the low wire for the piglets problem is apparently the bloodline I created turned aggressive of towards my children and frankly myself for the big bores I have removed those pigs we have none and I wanted goats and Cooney Cooney pigs those little gentle grass eaters but I was afraid to go to wouldn't stay in I'm going to try bring some in Cooney Cooney and goats should live fine together your info is worth a lot thank you sir
Thanks I will try
You did not have those big white rings on your metal post
Are you not worried about weeds touching that bottom polyrope
Thank you
Thanks a bunch
Good video
Great explanation. Thank you for sharing.
Nice video
This does it work
Just use the one with the burning cow guaranteed to fix your issues
our goats are jumping over the dang fences, even electric ones, maybe we need a larger power box, these 2 goats have racked my last nerve lately
I actually need this for my dog's they keep jumping the fence and terrorizing my neighbors. The invisible fence is gay doesn't work for them. Have a male cane Corso and female Dogo Argentina. They're a handful. This is the last resort I have to keep them in thank you for sharing this video.
my goats will butt the living shit out this fence then chew on the cables :/ dont know what to do..
Guarantee they won't if you've got a 16-20 joule charger on that bad boy. It hurts like the dickens. They get zapped a time or two and then run off and pout.
i moved from wis. to new mexico ,i need to get some stock soon,if your selling i would like some of yours.ijust fould your channel .IM IN
your very hot wire in a low position, in the dry hot summer it must be a fire risk
You think you could put your links in and possibly return the subscription favor
Hm. The link is in the description? Not sure if I added it after your comment or if you didn't see it, but it's up there.
Test Timeless posts. You won’t look back.
Ok juky stepping post what else?
my goats are sick and twisted. they seem to like the electric fence. but i want you to show me how it works. just because i tripple dog dare you to stick your tounge on it. i wanna make sure you did a good job on the install. so once again i tripple dog dare you to stick your tounge on it if not the whole internet will laugh at you. so comeon show us all how well it works. i promise iw ill laugh at you so will everyone else
It's a shotty fence .. why we here?
Conservative is one thing but you describe your own stuff. Why are we here?