" last time i checked, the Geneva Convention doesn't cover UFO. So it looks like war crimes are back on the table" this 😂😂😂😂😂 is worth hitting the like button 😂😂😂😂
I'm a firearms owner and a shooter/former hunter. I'm not a gun nut, however, and consider goat guns pretty silly. That said, whatever, I used to collect hot wheels and thats at least as dumb. However I love your goat gun ads, funny, self aware, and very entertaining. Not many content creators make ads I don't skip through. And while you're not up to the standards of Lazerpig or Ryam Mcbeth, your doing well. Thanks for producing g such informative videos, I do wish your podcast format with your buddy was getting more love, as it was showing real potential. I would also like to suggest you contact 'habitual linecrosser', as I could see you two doing some pretty hilarious AND educational work together. You're a very rare comedic talent: the straight man. It doesn't get enough credit, but is the key to real comedy.
7:45 - There might be still a confusion remaining between Deep Battle and Blitzkrieg in this explanation. Deep Battle does not search for weak points, it creates them by building up pressure. Similarly, the assault on the weak points is not by elite units but by massive amounts of regular troops kept in reserves, with elite motorized troops being the one to exploit the breach to strike into theater-level targets within 50-150 km from the frontline.
I'm not sure, but it seems thet they're kinda meant for different things Blitzkrieg worked well for WW2 Germany because they had more training and equipment than most people expected. Deep Battle was a sound strategy because Russia had large amounts of less trained troops, and then some extremely well equipped and trained troops for the most important things.
@AndreiKucharavy Imho that is not the main difference between Blitzkrieg and Deep Battle. Blitzkrieg was about making breakthroughs to encircle and destroy enemy military units. The goal is the enemy army. Deep Battle was about making breakthroughs and then "rolling over" everything in the rear, including, if possible, enemy cities and production facilities. The aim was everything of any military value to the enemy.
@@bensonfitch6697 Not really - Deep Battle would work with envelopment as well - that was the goal for the relatively non-mobile troops performing the initial break-through. In-depth strike had as their task to disrupt the ability of the enemy to reinforce the collapsing front section and destroy the logistics support for the entire theater. They were all but random targets. As to the equipment - Blitzkrieg only works if you have well-trained and well-equipped troops, the enemy has a weak point, no reserve, and will not start an instant counter-attack. And it is attack-only doctrine, it allows for no defensive operations. Deep Battle works better if you have all of those things, but it does not critically depend on them. It also has a pretty good attack-defense-attack transition chain. Tbh Blitzkrieg is no longer considered as a viable strategy by anyone but armchair generals who read too much Panzerfiction, while to the best of my knowledge Deep Battle is still taught at Ft Leavenworth and is considered as an applicable doctrine in some situations for US or allies operations even today, although with some tweaks. IMHO Ukraine is a good example of a Deep Battle defense absolutely grinding to shreds a Blitz during the battles of Kyiv and iterative reductions of the battle of Donbass, with a transition to counter-offensive that is still pretty much a Deep Battle one. (And a reason for a lot of analysts to informally call it a Blyatskrieg).
I was a MLRS crewmember and fired rockets in Iraq... but never an ATACM. We loaded one once and were so excited except we never got green on the mission.
I was a 13M as well. I have fired a gratuitous amount of ATACMS. Unlike the rockets where you lose them on the horizon, ATACMS, you lose them when they go straight up. They go up like 150,000 feet. Basically, they go to the edge of space before coming back down.
I was an MLRS crewman in 2 different decades (86-89 and 2004-2007). I hated live fires, they'd normally be a few days into a ftx, all the crew would already be stinky. Buttoning up and sitting on the firing point at least one of us would drop an MRE bomb in there. It would get so hot, then when we'd finally fire you could always smell the rocket exhaust too. It was like giving yourself a stomach flu dutch oven in hell.
Were you able to return home safely? I confess, I never appreciated our military until the naked aggression of the Russians. Now, in retrospect I’ve got some serious respect for our military. And I want to sincerely thank you for service.
The bulk of the money value of the US aid is for equipment that is already built and paid for. The money is probably more accurately defined as being an economic stimulus into the US economy because it is used to replenish military inventory.
the billion dollar question is, are we ACTUALLY replenishing/replacing them, and if so at what rate? so many of the defense contractors have publicly stated they have supply chain issues and even when they have all the parts, they only produce a relatively small number of "whatever system" and that it will take them years to restore the inventory being used.
Quite a lot of the systems are those that were on their way out anyways. Maintenance, storage, disposal all have costs. And the US has long had a doctrine that required the ability to fight two large significant conflicts at tel he same time. That’s been stressed over the past 30 years. But support of Ukraine is a very cheap way to reduce one of the powers capable of either fighting in or supplying one of those conflicts.
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul It is not the same. MLRS/GMLRS has six tubes with individual covers. ATACMS has a single cover (with weak points for controlled break) on each end. Close up it is easy to tell them apart.
The Ukrainian army having the ATACM allows them the ability to target key positions or key command structures that are time sensitive. Additionally, this also means not having to rely on the Air Force which can be targeted by surface to air missiles.
No Rocco, there are ATACM but they are in Germany. Please remember that America making sure that NATO is fully defended against the Russian threat. Ukraine is getting what we can spare. Israel is a military ally of the United States. We had ATACM stored on American bases inside of Israel.
@@icemanzw Storm Shadow is a very capable weapon but it also needs to be launched from a plane which limits when and where it can be used. You're right that by itself ATACMS won't be transformative but it'll help accelerate Russia's eventual defeat.
@@Totemparadox Toddler, they waltzed in easily and got a peace treaty signed by the Ukrainian government. The Ukraine reneged as soon as they left. This is literally why everything we sent them has had little to no impact on the outcome of the war. They are running out of troops, are drafted even women against a country that has the support of 2 of the most populated countries in the world. Russia is literally fighting against 25+ countries pouring equipment, money, training, etc into the Ukraine and still owns most of the donbass. People like you are how world wars start.
In hindsight yes. But saddam, had it coming. Iraqis had a chance of a better life, and rejected it. I only feel bad for the westerners that were killed or injured. The Kurds are still exceeding grateful. Maybe you believe it was a Bush lie. So I will ask what was the pretext for Clinton bombing Iraq for 4 days in 1998? Did the governor of Texas lie to Bill Clinton too? Google can help with your lack of knowledge. I saw the images of gassed Kurdish children, woman and men in the 80's. Ask the Iranians if Iraq had wmd's. Don't believe everything you hear. Even me. Over 30 years later, I can see the images from time magazine of dead children and women, their mouths were like fish. It's was a horrible.
Biden Administration pays well for the propaganda. No matter what we give the Ukraine they are going to lose the territory they already have. Biden is just getting money he gives to them back or giving it to companies like black rock.
The remains of M39 missiles (Made in 1996 and 1997) of the MGM-140A ATACMS Block I system used by Ukrainian forces against Berdyansk AB. This variant has a range of ~165km, inertial guidance, and carries 950 M74 submunitions. This makes it 27 years old.
I really appreciate the amount of detail you provide. My hubby was a DAT in the Army and drove one of the first M1 Abrams in Europe in the early 80's when he was stationed in Germany. He has the same understanding of military "toys" that you do, Cappy.
Came here to say this. Yeah the first use of ATACMS was a juicy Russian airbase. How they didn't prepare for such a strike knowing these missiles were on their way is beyond me. There's a good breakdown on Twitter somewhere of the total number of possible missiles, including how many could have been refurbished already.
Russia's "Special Military Operation" has done such a good job of demonstrating NATO weapon systems that Raytheon and BAE Dynamics should be paying Putin a sales commission.
They are, in the form of stocks. Of course, those stocks are stockpiles, and they're being delivered daily by Ukraine, so I don't think that's what Russia had in mind... But hey! Play stupid games and whatnot 😁
You know, Ukraine’s struggle to survive Russia is something of a data goldmine for militaries the world over… We see how old tech holds up against new tech (which is to say at a disadvantage in a straight fight, but still viable with some outside the box thinking or if it fills an otherwise abandoned niche), we see the flaws and limits of newer systems unfold in practical situations that can be corrected for the future, we see just how practices on and off the warzone have to be adjusted in a potential war between modern powers, (logistics, training, etc…)… The irony with this situation is that it’ll probably stall any _other_ planned invasions (COUGH COUGH CHINA V TAIWAN COUGH COUGH) as those would be aggressors now HAVE to sort through their own forces potential problems (complacency, corruption, incompetence, outdated and/or poorly designed tech, etc…)
The lessons from this war are a double edged sword. They show that there’s no such thing as a quick and easy war against a determined nation, but it also provides possible aggressors like China, a much needed wake up call to make their forces and plans that much more effective.
@@Lomi311 That’s assuming they can sustain the effort needed to do so adequately…. Domestic problems might hold that up, potentially long enough to see a change of leadership that would refuse to do so.
Ive been saying since the beginning that , regardless of politics, the U.S. is not sending money down the toilet to Ukraine for no reason. They are paying for the data. "Hey, we haven't fought a conventional war since desert storm, lets test some of our unproven advancements with our new test subject and see how they add up to a conventional army!" How would our M1 Abrams fair in a conventional war? Shit, send acouple. How would our Himars do in a constant high demand environment? Shit, send acouple. Lets see. Every western country seems to see the potential of this data. Unfortunately alot of the surface level info would be completely public (i.e. the potential adversary sees it aswell) but im sure the U.S. gets a tad more classified info direct from the Ukrainian MOD. Like others have said, this might be the Spanish Civil War of todays age.
@@Lomi311yes and no. In the case of the US military, we’d gain the air quickly. Hundreds of sorties a day, like back in Iraq and seemingly dominate Russia.
MLRS (I served in the first MLRS battalion) : MLRS was created to attrit Soviet waves of armor, air defense, radar, logistics, mechanized infantry, and headquarters elements, as well as air bases and anything else a giant shotgun can destroy. . . . The 2-missile ATACMS is slightly different, but 12 rockets can destroy a 1km square area by damaging armor from above instead of from the front. A platoon of three can destroy 3km and a 3-platoon battery can destroy 3km2 (square) - you get the picture. . . . While Divisions have (used to have?) MLRS Batteries in their DIVARTYs for DS and DSR, Field Artillery Brigades (at the time) had one MLRS Battalion for GS and GSR. . . . GS missions usually supported DIVARTYs, while GSR could support units, but mainly worked at the operations level by destroying targets to prepare for operations 1 to 4 weeks out. . . . BCE (now BCD) were created in the mid-1990s to coordinate Army and AirForce operations, especially high-altitude fires like MLRS and Air Force ground support missions. This insured rockets / missiles / aircraft never crossed paths. . . . While I oppose sending current weapons systems to theaters where they can be easily lost to the enemy or sold on black markets (it is what it is in the current political atmosphere), Ukraine could use HIMARS to create all manner of damage and chaos on the battlefield. It can infiltrate beyond the FLOT, fire, and probably retrograde before Russian counterbattery fires can touch it. It is a giant shotgun that can damage just about anything, including naval assets close to shore, might be targets of opportunity. HIMARS would certainly endanger Russian armor and infantry if they massed fires like it was designed to be used. . . . Like the A-10 Warthog, I guess the tracked MLRS is now basically obsolete (its hydraulics always were a pain in the a**), but it destroyed much of Saddam’s armor, radar, and anti-air assets to allow our air assets it. I’m surprised by the desire to replace it, because shotguns are still very effective in the right situations. We may need shotguns if we ever fight in the east.
I was working with the Lance Missile in 1979. The lance is basically the ATACMS daddy, since there is a line between the "Honest John", the Lance, the ATACMS and it's recent, soon to be delivered successor. The Honest John was a crappy missile. Short range, bad guidance, one of my predecessor put a swift end to his military career by landing a "Honest John" in a farmer's barn. When they switched to the Lance, they changed their rockets from solid fuel to liquid. I am not sure how wise that was, because refueling a Lance was a royal pain. We kept Fuel and Oxidizer at the opposite ends of the base because should they come in contact, the entire base was likely to blow up. ATACMS went back to solid fuel, which I think it was wise. I am not a rocket expert, even though I actually launched a few myself (and my squad, obviously), but we didn't go into detail on how they really worked. For instance, I know the Lance also had a gyroscope for guidance and about 10 meters precision. I am guessing under ideal condition though. Also, if we used the nuclear warhead, aiming the missile wasn't really that important.
I went to 13M AIT in 1986, We were in the same starship with the Lance and Pershing guys. Our AIT was 9 weeks, both Lance and Pershing were in excess of a year (nukes and junk). That would have sucked to a new level of suck. Of course, I got stationed at Ft. Sill so I was always down the street.
Your big picture, geopolitical-themed videos have greatly improved these past few months. The subject matter has a steep learning curve unless you're already well-versed in geography, statistics, history, anthropology, politics and current events. Military matters, too. Keep it up. Good game, Cappy and Team.
@@whatisahandle_69 Chris is not just the face, he writes/produces/edits/and shoots (both guns and videos). We are a very small team and we put a lot into each episode we post. Chris has a hand in every aspect of production.
Many times the leaks are actually planned when you want plausible deniability especially if you need to backtrack a decisions but you still want the information to get out there.
If you want to understand ATACMs I suggest looking up the stats of the US' old 16 inch/50 cal. naval shell. After all, you can find pictures and videos of the aftermath of these laid next to other craters for scale. Further, draw the circle of that blast radius around your home. Notice that this shell would level your neighborhood. Now, ATACMs isn't new or as big as some Russian GLBMs. However, if I read the numbers rightn it's nearly as explosive a 16 inch shell. That, and it's almost half as heavy. It can be carried by a truck. It flies nearly 10 times as far and it's much more accurate. ATACMs can hit a building where a naval gun would struggle to hit your street without satelites and drone spotting (ask New Jersey). That and it could never hit anything 300km away, and especially not 300km inland. That should put the calculus of fielding ATACMs into perspective.
The army was probably waiting for the precision strike missile to complete testing maybe, or start its low-rate initial production before they released ATACMs as they needed to be sure they had enough long-range strike capability from the ground, and they really didn't have that many ATACMs...
I see the supply of weapons as a kind of game, something like this: the supply of weapons is announced, then the reaction of the Russian Federation is analyzed, if they threaten with nuclear weapons - they give back, if they are silent - then they can supply And this has been happening for more than 1.5 years, at the beginning ANY assistance to Ukraine was considered interference and the Russian Federation threatened with a harsh response, now F-16s and Abrams are being prepared to send, no reaction (or near-zero)
Pronounced "A-Tackems" (yes, attackems)/ Expensive and ultra accurate these missiles are the end all for battlefield commanders when they have to destroy a significant enemy assets. They can literally destroy your enemies top assets.
Related note, why do a lot of British folk have a hard time saying Attack-ems? Anyone else notice that? I swear I only ever hear British people (and Cappy) mispronounce it
@@jiminauburn5073 I've heard a lot of British people add a whole extra syllable that isn't even there though! - "Ey-Tack-Ems" is a common mispronunciation I've been hearing. Adding an extra syllable is deeper than just the 'A' part being different! 😝
I was assigned to a Air Force Tactical Communications unit in Germany from 76-79. (Just as the AF was pulling the majority of their Air Assests in German back behind the Rhine River.) I participated/survived in three REFORGER Excercises. The game plan was the forces that were already in Germany were to fight a holding action/fighting withdrawal as best we could while US and NATO Air Assets worked to try to slow things down as much as possible to give the US time to surge additional Air and Ground assets to Germany. (The funny thing was that the REFORGER excecises always seemed to be held during Oktoberfest and becasuer I was out in some farmer's field making sure that the comm network was working, I never got to go. :( )
Until the retaliation by 800kg HE thermobaric iskander and Novator tactical ballistic missiles prove potentially devastating against Ukrainian targets or city's in response.
@@goUkraine Easily done, overwhelm it with cheap Shahed-136 drones, or a barrage of Kalibir or P-800 cruise missiles, ahead of an Iskander or Kinzhal strike. Patriot battery's have been exhausted many times already, and even destroyed.
@@John-hu9qg they've already been striking cities, and knowingly leveling most of a city because you're throwing a fit about losing is more than just a bad look.
Can I just say thank you for sharing the clip at 18:43 of what I'm assuming is a civilian biking on the dirt road as the HIMARS missile launches and they just duck their head like 'Yup just another day in a warzone." and keep biking.
Cappy - I saw you got upset in the comments the other day coz someone said you were ‘just the presenter’ and others did the writing etc, when it turns out you’re doing just about everything yourself… I also assumed you had a team helping you - how else can you keep pumping out these quality videos, coz its a LOT of work! So just want to say, thanks for the great content - and also - get some help with the writing and stuff my friend- take it easy on yourself! You’re a class presenter, don’t want to burn out dude 😁
Hey man, I was in the gulf war, on 14 Feb 91, My M109 howitzer crew assaulted a supply hub, in the first mechanized artillery raid in history, we got aggressed by Iraqi tanks, I was outside the gun pumping in shells, when the smoke plumes came from behind us, went over our heads and landed on the tanks, they all popped their tops ( like soviet takes do) and there were multiple turrets just spinning in the air. It was a beautiful ting.
I used to naively think that we lived in a peaceful world and that america spent too much on the military budget. After ukraine and hamas massacres, ive realized we arent spending enough.
I hope lots of our fellow Americans come to the same conclusion. If I ever hear “the U.S. spends more than the next X countries” again I’ll scream. We actually pay and care for our service members, unlike our possible opponents.
@@Melontheyoutuber I was responding to the comment above, if you understand the format of this site. The amount we spend on our service members results in us spending more than possible opponents.
@@Melontheyoutuber America's soldiers have every business dealing with America's enemies wherever they are in the world. At the moment that doesn't mean boots on the ground in Ukraine or getting involved in Israel (especially since the Israelis are more than capable of taking care of business), but degrading Russia's ability to fight and ensuring they lose in Ukraine and lose badly is very much in the interests of the US military.
@trolleriffic not when the eventual result is global thermonuclear war it isn't, and ffs, Israel had info regarding 9/11 that it purposely didn't pass on, Israel only cares about its own interests but has a massive lobby abroad, its upset because it was caught in the middle of shabbat by some paragliders and a well planned, limited operation, going into turbo overdrive revenge fantasy mode in response, clearing out its very own backyard ghetto in the same way its own people were routed from their ghettos periodically into smaller and smaller areas.
"No official statements have confirmed the decision to send ATACMS to Ukraine" (paraphrased). Wow that sentence sure aged fast hehe. In any case, great video. ATACMS have done well in their Ukraine debut, hopefully more are sent. They were going to be decommissioned anyway, so might as well let Ukraine put them to good use.
I have enough background on this that correlates well with what Cappy is saying. This validates his overall video. The data is accurate and analysis is done well. This is the finest high level review of ATACMs I have seen - including some classified ones from back in the day. Again, Well Done. KUTGW
Inter-service rivalry really is hilarious. One of the biggest sources of opposition to the US developing an anti-ballistic missile capability back in the 60s and 70s was the US Air Force because they didn't want their Minuteman Missile silos being protected by a system under the control of the US Army. It was also a fight for money - the Air Force wanted the funds spent on growing the Minutemen fleet to make it harder to destroy all of it instead of investing in ways of protecting it from attack.
I had to rewind as I thought I'd hallucinated when I saw a dude on a bicycle just duck his head a bit and carry on pedalling as a ballistic missile was fired over his ass. Hardcore!😅
The missile recently used appears to be from the late 90s (based on images of the casing put out following the strike). We sent nearly 30 year old tech, and it defeated Russian air defense.
You sent even Patriot systems. American army was not capable to intercept OLD ballistic SCUD missiles and drones using "the most advance' system... But ukrainians, after formal training during 3 month.... managed to shoot down hypersonic missiles... 😃😆😂
@@OriginalWarwood - LOL!!! You continue to lie that people with ESL level, able to learn system well in 2 - 4 month…. And were capable to intercept missiles; which generals in Pentagon CLEARLY admitted - “we have no such a system to intercept Kinzhal missiles” Please, stop playing dumb here
@@valeros8217 LMAO yet Russia can't hit Kyiv :) and Ukraine keeps hitting Russian air bases and Sevastopol. Also it is the system that downed the hypersonic missile not the "training". It has always been theoretically possible to do as such and there were likely simulations to prepare for it.
I am certain there are a lot of people in uniform in Washington, London, Brussels, Tokyo as well as Moscow who are stunned with the ATACMS ability to penetrate S-400 cover. And maybe a few people in Ankara, who are checking their warranty cars for a refund...
We'll need a base supply of PrSMs before we will truly begin off loading large numbers of ATACMS, which is why we're only giving Ukraine a small number right now. We'll likely give Ukraine more in late 2024, or early 2025 when the war is expected to ramp up.
Chris has charisma. But there is something completely unique about the way he speaks. It’s like he’s on the phone with each of us individually and giving a report that we need to hear. Like he’s both someone who reports to us, and is also a close friend. He speaks with a measured urgency. Chris, and you might have figured out, I’m trying to pinpoint how your delivery is unique, and how it’s just as important as the content. I swear it feels like we’re at a bar, and you’re telling me something important that I need to know before we part. OK. I can’t pinpoint it. Anyone else have an opinion?
Very good points. It's partly the way he isn't overly formal (his presentation & delivery is relaxed, not stiff), and he modulates his voice so it's warm, interesting, humorous etc. Part voice and part personality and good storytelling. Ryan McBeth has a similar approach.
US switched to PrSM literally THIS year. As more of those come on line, ATACMS will be phased out anyway so likely a reason they are being delivered now.
Hi, I do like the way you are “taking the piss” out of your description of the miniature weapons models. If you can keep up that banter you could successfully be accepted into a British infantry platoon. Keep it up!!!! Cheers mate. Harera
@@deprogrammyes and no. America has to try and wrangle its overspending on corrupt military industry companies. We spend wayyy too much. Could do with some leaning up.
Our budget is too small right now. We need to get funding back to national guard which is broke. Yes those companies are sketch but our military needs an increase in budget badly
the subcontractor process is a lot more flexible than that. Lockheed doesn't have to manage a massive unwieldy supply chain but each subcontractor is responsible for sourcing inputs and delivering on time. they can either have the current company make more, or just start another contract other companies can bid on. if the engineers did a good job with design for manufacturing the subcontractors can spin up production faster and cheaper then they can do in house. If they didn't then feedback from the manufacturer has to make its way back to an engineer to evaluate design changes to make it manufacturable(easier to do in house). but for this project all that work was done 40 years ago.
I wonder why no one is talking about the Tomahawk ground launch cruise missile. It's inexpensive compared to ATACMS, has a longer range, and we have a large number in inventory. Just a thought..
Thought the only ground launched Tomahawks were nuclear. Plus one big benefit of ATACMS is hitting targets of opportunity where you may not have a large window and the missile getting there before the enemy can react really matters.
The flight time of the ATACMS vs Storm Shadow isn’t the only thing that changes things big time for Ukraine, the russians see the Ukrainian SU-24s to launch Storm Shadow pretty fast on their radars and can at least prepare somewhat for a strike. Not possible with ATACMS anymore!
You said exactly the same, when first Himars show up on front... At that time, all 6 missiles able to hit target. As of today, ukrainians count as success, when 1 or 2 missiles hit the target. In 2 month we will see that ATACMS became useless...
@@tfdsuikp - You have no access to read reports from ukrainian and russian sides? AS soon as US Himars start using - all 6 sometimes 5 missiles able to hit targets. And today, UKRAINIAN military reported - they have 0 or 1 hits from 6 launched missiles. Others were jammed or intercepted… You should read and learn a bit…
@@valeros8217 Against what target were they jammed or intercepted? Also i would caution anyone to take Russian claims with a cup of salt as they have been known to grossly lie about well...everything. HIMARS is still effective against poorly defended targets. For high value targets Ukrainians now uses Storm Shadow for static non time sensitive targets and ATACMS for mobile time sensitive targets.
@@valeros8217 that is loud statement from your side. I heard about some jamming systems that are theoretically can jam himars mlrs rockets, but that's arguable and I'm not sure they have a lot of them. Few days ago i saw photo of one himars rocket reported as intercepted by russians. But i don't know about real reasons. Anyway, for a big enough target where 1 missile is not enough uaf launches minimum 3 missiles as i heard it near Kherson. Yes, russian occupational forces now are evading strikes by moving far sway from it's range. That's why Ukraine should be given deadlier weapons asap. We don't see now so much news of destroyed ammo storages and command centers etc, like we first heard it in summer 2022, where around 4 himarses stopped whole russian offensive, with big ammo storages struck dozen of times every day. They had there ammo for 3 days of fighting for mlrs, sams, artillery on mykolaiv theatre. But uaf still regularly release videos of successful strikes with not only 155 mm high precision artillery but with himarses too. They now focused more on radars, jammers, sams, drone operators, tos 1 systems, mlrs (grad, smerch, uragan) and etc. And talking from my experience i heard himars and m270 incomes for few months from early july till start of October near Kherson. Every rocket i heard hit the target. Not a single was intercepted as i heard it. 3 missile hits, 6. Later with m270 arriving you could hear around 10. At some point russian occupational forces become so desperate they tried to launch aa missiles from buks and tors in primitive way - just in direction of missiles they somehow knew about, but that happened only few times. Setting timer on fuse ww2 guns style, it exploded somewhere in air nowhere near himars and not on time, after rockets landed or way before rockets arrived. Usually they just launched missiles with no effect. The best they could do is to terrorize neighbouring mykolaiv region, launching 3 to 10 s 300 or tochka u missiles in reply long time after himars attacked, around 3 to 10 minutes after mlrs income.
I had a stats teacher in college who worked on Assault Breaker; she told us what she could about it and I was just gobsmacked. Didn't even believe it. Then I talked to a buddy of mine who'd been in the Army and told me how the thing was black magic, and in computer simulations the thing basically shifted a whole battle's win/lose probability in favor of defending NATO forces...
Well, the attack ems they sent are 30 ! years old clusters and at the end of their shelf life. Anyways, Ukraine is doing us a favor by using them up so we don’t have to pay to get rid of them. Glad to see them going to good use.
PrSM, the ATACMs replacement, is supposed to be coming online, this year. The ICM version isn't supposed to be used anymore under US doctrine. Sending the ICM version of ATACMs, shouldn't hurt the US inventory.
The Russians are good at telling everyone how good their weapons and soldiers are the best. Implementing that is their struggle 😂😂😂 they’re the third best army in Ukraine 🇺🇦 😂
Great. If the US can afford to donate a few more of its missiles to Ukraine to save money on maintenance, which is part of the reason why it donated some of its M113s, then Russia has all the more reason to back off.
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Thanks for producing g such informative videos, I do wish your podcast format with your buddy was getting more love, as it was showing real potential. I would also like to suggest you contact 'habitual linecrosser', as I could see you two doing some pretty hilarious AND educational work together. You're a very rare comedic talent: the straight man. It doesn't get enough credit, but is the key to real comedy.
7:45 - There might be still a confusion remaining between Deep Battle and Blitzkrieg in this explanation. Deep Battle does not search for weak points, it creates them by building up pressure. Similarly, the assault on the weak points is not by elite units but by massive amounts of regular troops kept in reserves, with elite motorized troops being the one to exploit the breach to strike into theater-level targets within 50-150 km from the frontline.
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Blitzkrieg is poor man's deep battle
I'm not sure, but it seems thet they're kinda meant for different things
Blitzkrieg worked well for WW2 Germany because they had more training and equipment than most people expected.
Deep Battle was a sound strategy because Russia had large amounts of less trained troops, and then some extremely well equipped and trained troops for the most important things.
@AndreiKucharavy Imho that is not the main difference between Blitzkrieg and Deep Battle. Blitzkrieg was about making breakthroughs to encircle and destroy enemy military units. The goal is the enemy army. Deep Battle was about making breakthroughs and then "rolling over" everything in the rear, including, if possible, enemy cities and production facilities. The aim was everything of any military value to the enemy.
@@bensonfitch6697 Not really - Deep Battle would work with envelopment as well - that was the goal for the relatively non-mobile troops performing the initial break-through.
In-depth strike had as their task to disrupt the ability of the enemy to reinforce the collapsing front section and destroy the logistics support for the entire theater. They were all but random targets.
As to the equipment - Blitzkrieg only works if you have well-trained and well-equipped troops, the enemy has a weak point, no reserve, and will not start an instant counter-attack. And it is attack-only doctrine, it allows for no defensive operations.
Deep Battle works better if you have all of those things, but it does not critically depend on them. It also has a pretty good attack-defense-attack transition chain.
Tbh Blitzkrieg is no longer considered as a viable strategy by anyone but armchair generals who read too much Panzerfiction, while to the best of my knowledge Deep Battle is still taught at Ft Leavenworth and is considered as an applicable doctrine in some situations for US or allies operations even today, although with some tweaks.
IMHO Ukraine is a good example of a Deep Battle defense absolutely grinding to shreds a Blitz during the battles of Kyiv and iterative reductions of the battle of Donbass, with a transition to counter-offensive that is still pretty much a Deep Battle one. (And a reason for a lot of analysts to informally call it a Blyatskrieg).
18:42 My man barely flinches when the missle launches as he's cruising by on his bicycle lol
Unreal! 😂 Ukrainians really do have that honey badger spirit!
I would have needed a change of pants after that! 😂
lol you and me both...
I was a MLRS crewmember and fired rockets in Iraq... but never an ATACM. We loaded one once and were so excited except we never got green on the mission.
So excited 😎😂
The First Gulf War was when they were fired.
I was a 13M as well. I have fired a gratuitous amount of ATACMS. Unlike the rockets where you lose them on the horizon, ATACMS, you lose them when they go straight up. They go up like 150,000 feet. Basically, they go to the edge of space before coming back down.
I was an MLRS crewman in 2 different decades (86-89 and 2004-2007). I hated live fires, they'd normally be a few days into a ftx, all the crew would already be stinky. Buttoning up and sitting on the firing point at least one of us would drop an MRE bomb in there. It would get so hot, then when we'd finally fire you could always smell the rocket exhaust too.
It was like giving yourself a stomach flu dutch oven in hell.
Were you able to return home safely? I confess, I never appreciated our military until the naked aggression of the Russians. Now, in retrospect I’ve got some serious respect for our military. And I want to sincerely thank you for service.
I like it how “Yeet” is technically now an actual Dictionary word that’s being used by US Army personnel
:(
Yeet 😎
It somehow manages to be catchy but not obnoxious.
Yeetadakimasu
It is an old word.
The dude riding the bike right by a rocket launch is a badass 😂 18:41
Man's got places to be 🤣
As on old nuke cop we used to have a saying “Send a nuke to you in 30 minutes or less or the next ones free!” Used to make me lol every time.
"World Wide Delivery in 30 min or less or your next one is free" is written on blast door
The bulk of the money value of the US aid is for equipment that is already built and paid for. The money is probably more accurately defined as being an economic stimulus into the US economy because it is used to replenish military inventory.
Replenish and modernise.
the billion dollar question is, are we ACTUALLY replenishing/replacing them, and if so at what rate? so many of the defense contractors have publicly stated they have supply chain issues and even when they have all the parts, they only produce a relatively small number of "whatever system" and that it will take them years to restore the inventory being used.
@@joedoe6444ATACMS are being replaced by PrSM which have a range of 500km. Lockeed Martin is very happy with the move to PrSM.
@@joedoe6444I’d rather stress the supply chain and identify those deficiencies now rather than be surprised when we really need it.
Quite a lot of the systems are those that were on their way out anyways. Maintenance, storage, disposal all have costs. And the US has long had a doctrine that required the ability to fight two large significant conflicts at tel he same time. That’s been stressed over the past 30 years. But support of Ukraine is a very cheap way to reduce one of the powers capable of either fighting in or supplying one of those conflicts.
2:54 the pod for the ATACMS actually looks like it has 6 tubes, in order to hide if the canister has ATACMS or not
With the added bonus of cost savings - just reuse the standard cover instead of making a new one!
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul I don't believe it's the same cover, I think it's just made to look like it from the outside
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul
It is not the same.
MLRS/GMLRS has six tubes with individual covers. ATACMS has a single cover (with weak points for controlled break) on each end.
Close up it is easy to tell them apart.
18:42 that civilian casually riding his bike only feet away from that rocket launcher RIGHT as the rocket takes off 😂😂😂
The Ukrainian army having the ATACM allows them the ability to target key positions or key command structures that are time sensitive. Additionally, this also means not having to rely on the Air Force which can be targeted by surface to air missiles.
The war has been over for months, people just refuse to admit it.
No Rocco, there are ATACM but they are in Germany. Please remember that America making sure that NATO is fully defended against the Russian threat. Ukraine is getting what we can spare. Israel is a military ally of the United States. We had ATACM stored on American bases inside of Israel.
@@icemanzw Storm Shadow is a very capable weapon but it also needs to be launched from a plane which limits when and where it can be used. You're right that by itself ATACMS won't be transformative but it'll help accelerate Russia's eventual defeat.
@@Kolek-sun-eaterTHREE DAYS TO KIEV! 🤣
@@Totemparadox Toddler, they waltzed in easily and got a peace treaty signed by the Ukrainian government. The Ukraine reneged as soon as they left.
This is literally why everything we sent them has had little to no impact on the outcome of the war. They are running out of troops, are drafted even women against a country that has the support of 2 of the most populated countries in the world.
Russia is literally fighting against 25+ countries pouring equipment, money, training, etc into the Ukraine and still owns most of the donbass.
People like you are how world wars start.
DARPA also gave the world the basic foundations of the Internet. The Internet gave us RUclips. RUclips gave us this channel.
Nah, that was Al Gore. Pfft 😂
@@MrVonkliest, I don't know about you but I for one welcome our series of tubed overlords.
CYCLADES ;)
I was shooting these into specific windows on specific floors of buildings while I was in Iraq in 2008. Fun stuff.
lmfao damn. Wish we would've expanded production of them or PrSMs in 2022.
I hope you regretted being there in hindsight
@@kx7500nah, he is an American, they dont give a shit about blowing foreigners to smithereens. Geneva suggestions and all that.
Why?
In hindsight yes. But saddam, had it coming. Iraqis had a chance of a better life, and rejected it. I only feel bad for the westerners that were killed or injured. The Kurds are still exceeding grateful. Maybe you believe it was a Bush lie. So I will ask what was the pretext for Clinton bombing Iraq for 4 days in 1998? Did the governor of Texas lie to Bill Clinton too? Google can help with your lack of knowledge. I saw the images of gassed Kurdish children, woman and men in the 80's. Ask the Iranians if Iraq had wmd's. Don't believe everything you hear. Even me. Over 30 years later, I can see the images from time magazine of dead children and women, their mouths were like fish. It's was a horrible.
I have to give you a hand cappy, you’re pumping out the good stuff lately 👏🙌
Biden Administration pays well for the propaganda. No matter what we give the Ukraine they are going to lose the territory they already have. Biden is just getting money he gives to them back or giving it to companies like black rock.
A hand cappy...😂
@tetrusadima I guess we know why he's been pumping out the good stuff so much easier 💀
The remains of M39 missiles (Made in 1996 and 1997) of the MGM-140A ATACMS Block I system used by Ukrainian forces against Berdyansk AB.
This variant has a range of ~165km, inertial guidance, and carries 950 M74 submunitions.
This makes it 27 years old.
Yikes. That is an insane number of submunitions. I'd hate to be on the receiving end.
5 missiles against the 2 airbases destroying and damaging 21 helicopters and a radar system + pantsir.
I really appreciate the amount of detail you provide. My hubby was a DAT in the Army and drove one of the first M1 Abrams in Europe in the early 80's when he was stationed in Germany. He has the same understanding of military "toys" that you do, Cappy.
It's been a rough month, but seeing you thirst over a hot alien got me to actually laugh out loud. Thanks cappy, fantastic video!
Love Cappy's subtle product placement at the start of the video...... Pure talent.
yeah, first time i watched add willingly
Yeah I really want an ATACMs now
Thank you for talking about Ukraine. The media is eerily quiet all of a sudden, probably because of Israel.
Israel will no longer be neutral now though so that's very good news for Ukraine.
The ATACMS missile housing body which was fired at Berdynyansk airport at the Russians a day or so ago had a date of 1996 on it.
Came here to say this. Yeah the first use of ATACMS was a juicy Russian airbase. How they didn't prepare for such a strike knowing these missiles were on their way is beyond me. There's a good breakdown on Twitter somewhere of the total number of possible missiles, including how many could have been refurbished already.
Glorious. They wrote "Return of the Mack" on it in honor of 1996.😂
Russia's "Special Military Operation" has done such a good job of demonstrating NATO weapon systems that Raytheon and BAE Dynamics should be paying Putin a sales commission.
😂 🤣 TaDa
They are, in the form of stocks. Of course, those stocks are stockpiles, and they're being delivered daily by Ukraine, so I don't think that's what Russia had in mind... But hey! Play stupid games and whatnot 😁
You’ve been killing it lately Chris, great insight
18:42 That guy on the bicycle cracked me up!
You know, Ukraine’s struggle to survive Russia is something of a data goldmine for militaries the world over…
We see how old tech holds up against new tech (which is to say at a disadvantage in a straight fight, but still viable with some outside the box thinking or if it fills an otherwise abandoned niche), we see the flaws and limits of newer systems unfold in practical situations that can be corrected for the future, we see just how practices on and off the warzone have to be adjusted in a potential war between modern powers, (logistics, training, etc…)…
The irony with this situation is that it’ll probably stall any _other_ planned invasions (COUGH COUGH CHINA V TAIWAN COUGH COUGH) as those would be aggressors now HAVE to sort through their own forces potential problems (complacency, corruption, incompetence, outdated and/or poorly designed tech, etc…)
Modern day Spanish Civil War.
The lessons from this war are a double edged sword. They show that there’s no such thing as a quick and easy war against a determined nation, but it also provides possible aggressors like China, a much needed wake up call to make their forces and plans that much more effective.
@@Lomi311
That’s assuming they can sustain the effort needed to do so adequately….
Domestic problems might hold that up, potentially long enough to see a change of leadership that would refuse to do so.
Ive been saying since the beginning that , regardless of politics, the U.S. is not sending money down the toilet to Ukraine for no reason. They are paying for the data. "Hey, we haven't fought a conventional war since desert storm, lets test some of our unproven advancements with our new test subject and see how they add up to a conventional army!"
How would our M1 Abrams fair in a conventional war? Shit, send acouple.
How would our Himars do in a constant high demand environment? Shit, send acouple. Lets see.
Every western country seems to see the potential of this data. Unfortunately alot of the surface level info would be completely public (i.e. the potential adversary sees it aswell) but im sure the U.S. gets a tad more classified info direct from the Ukrainian MOD.
Like others have said, this might be the Spanish Civil War of todays age.
@@Lomi311yes and no. In the case of the US military, we’d gain the air quickly. Hundreds of sorties a day, like back in Iraq and seemingly dominate Russia.
MLRS (I served in the first MLRS battalion) : MLRS was created to attrit Soviet waves of armor, air defense, radar, logistics, mechanized infantry, and headquarters elements, as well as air bases and anything else a giant shotgun can destroy. . . . The 2-missile ATACMS is slightly different, but 12 rockets can destroy a 1km square area by damaging armor from above instead of from the front. A platoon of three can destroy 3km and a 3-platoon battery can destroy 3km2 (square) - you get the picture. . . . While Divisions have (used to have?) MLRS Batteries in their DIVARTYs for DS and DSR, Field Artillery Brigades (at the time) had one MLRS Battalion for GS and GSR. . . . GS missions usually supported DIVARTYs, while GSR could support units, but mainly worked at the operations level by destroying targets to prepare for operations 1 to 4 weeks out. . . . BCE (now BCD) were created in the mid-1990s to coordinate Army and AirForce operations, especially high-altitude fires like MLRS and Air Force ground support missions. This insured rockets / missiles / aircraft never crossed paths. . . . While I oppose sending current weapons systems to theaters where they can be easily lost to the enemy or sold on black markets (it is what it is in the current political atmosphere), Ukraine could use HIMARS to create all manner of damage and chaos on the battlefield. It can infiltrate beyond the FLOT, fire, and probably retrograde before Russian counterbattery fires can touch it. It is a giant shotgun that can damage just about anything, including naval assets close to shore, might be targets of opportunity. HIMARS would certainly endanger Russian armor and infantry if they massed fires like it was designed to be used. . . . Like the A-10 Warthog, I guess the tracked MLRS is now basically obsolete (its hydraulics always were a pain in the a**), but it destroyed much of Saddam’s armor, radar, and anti-air assets to allow our air assets it. I’m surprised by the desire to replace it, because shotguns are still very effective in the right situations. We may need shotguns if we ever fight in the east.
6/27 FA?
@@jamesfrancisaloysiuspercev925 Yes, but it was deactivated in about 2007.
@@alabamatechwriter6959
Yes, 6/27 FA was disbanded then. Were you in the unit at that time?
@@jamesfrancisaloysiuspercev925 No. I was in during the early 1990s. Were you in 6/27?
@@alabamatechwriter6959
Yes, I was with them when we were deactivated. Also for the deployment to Iraq ‘05-‘07. Nice to meet a fellow Redleg.
Give the Ukrainian military ALL the ATACMS. Slava Ukraine! 🇺🇦🇺🇸
Why don't you go over there and help out
@Turboactive why don't you?
@@Dpad555 I'm not the war monger
@@Turboactive okay
I was working with the Lance Missile in 1979. The lance is basically the ATACMS daddy, since there is a line between the "Honest John", the Lance, the ATACMS and it's recent, soon to be delivered successor.
The Honest John was a crappy missile. Short range, bad guidance, one of my predecessor put a swift end to his military career by landing a "Honest John" in a farmer's barn.
When they switched to the Lance, they changed their rockets from solid fuel to liquid. I am not sure how wise that was, because refueling a Lance was a royal pain. We kept Fuel and Oxidizer at the opposite ends of the base because should they come in contact, the entire base was likely to blow up.
ATACMS went back to solid fuel, which I think it was wise. I am not a rocket expert, even though I actually launched a few myself (and my squad, obviously), but we didn't go into detail on how they really worked.
For instance, I know the Lance also had a gyroscope for guidance and about 10 meters precision. I am guessing under ideal condition though. Also, if we used the nuclear warhead, aiming the missile wasn't really that important.
I went to 13M AIT in 1986, We were in the same starship with the Lance and Pershing guys. Our AIT was 9 weeks, both Lance and Pershing were in excess of a year (nukes and junk). That would have sucked to a new level of suck. Of course, I got stationed at Ft. Sill so I was always down the street.
The Kerch Bridge is falling down
falling down
falling down
The Kerch Bridge is falling down
the A-TAC-MS
Not with cluster munitions.
@@zyncwargaming179
Apparently you lack simple logic…
It seems your only military and combat experience is playing video games.
That commercial was hilarious!
Your big picture, geopolitical-themed videos have greatly improved these past few months. The subject matter has a steep learning curve unless you're already well-versed in geography, statistics, history, anthropology, politics and current events. Military matters, too.
Keep it up. Good game, Cappy and Team.
You know he has a full media team behind him, right? He's just the face, Task and Purpose is a company.
Some solid OSINT chops behind his videos too.
@kylepicard2634 Yeah, I edited in an acknowledgment of the team to be clear.
@@whatisahandle_69 Chris is not just the face, he writes/produces/edits/and shoots (both guns and videos). We are a very small team and we put a lot into each episode we post. Chris has a hand in every aspect of production.
The 4 that leaked the information should be arrested, there is a lot of leaking and they arrest a low level kid but never go after the others.
I was just thinking that closed doors means Do Not Leak right?? Wtf 😂
Many times the leaks are actually planned when you want plausible deniability especially if you need to backtrack a decisions but you still want the information to get out there.
What an ad. At no point did I have a desire to skip it. Bravo sir
That ad was awesome lmao
If you want to understand ATACMs I suggest looking up the stats of the US' old 16 inch/50 cal. naval shell. After all, you can find pictures and videos of the aftermath of these laid next to other craters for scale.
Further, draw the circle of that blast radius around your home. Notice that this shell would level your neighborhood.
Now, ATACMs isn't new or as big as some Russian GLBMs. However, if I read the numbers rightn it's nearly as explosive a 16 inch shell. That, and it's almost half as heavy. It can be carried by a truck. It flies nearly 10 times as far and it's much more accurate.
ATACMs can hit a building where a naval gun would struggle to hit your street without satelites and drone spotting (ask New Jersey).
That and it could never hit anything 300km away, and especially not 300km inland.
That should put the calculus of fielding ATACMs into perspective.
The army was probably waiting for the precision strike missile to complete testing maybe, or start its low-rate initial production before they released ATACMs as they needed to be sure they had enough long-range strike capability from the ground, and they really didn't have that many ATACMs...
Scott, just remember we have munitions stored in Israel before this war broke out. Why? because Israel is a military ally of the United States.
I see the supply of weapons as a kind of game, something like this: the supply of weapons is announced, then the reaction of the Russian Federation is analyzed, if they threaten with nuclear weapons - they give back, if they are silent - then they can supply
And this has been happening for more than 1.5 years, at the beginning ANY assistance to Ukraine was considered interference and the Russian Federation threatened with a harsh response, now F-16s and Abrams are being prepared to send, no reaction (or near-zero)
Pronounced "A-Tackems" (yes, attackems)/ Expensive and ultra accurate these missiles are the end all for battlefield commanders when they have to destroy a significant enemy assets. They can literally destroy your enemies top assets.
Related note, why do a lot of British folk have a hard time saying Attack-ems? Anyone else notice that?
I swear I only ever hear British people (and Cappy) mispronounce it
Isn't it going to be replaced by a new missile called Precision or something?
Yes, I believe it is called "PRs" It has a longer range than anything in the Army's Inventory. @@floydlooney6837
@@robb1324 Has to do with how they pronounce the A. Canadians do it as well. Aaaaa vs Ahhhh
@@jiminauburn5073 I've heard a lot of British people add a whole extra syllable that isn't even there though! - "Ey-Tack-Ems" is a common mispronunciation I've been hearing.
Adding an extra syllable is deeper than just the 'A' part being different! 😝
You had way too much fun with that sponsor spot and I love it.
Goatguns are lucky to have you as an advertiser. 10/10 commercials, always watch.
I like how the sexy alien is used as a size comparison @2:35. ;)
And they just used the cluster ATACMS last night in Berdiansk and Luhansk. Took out helicopters and some of the crews. Nice.
I was assigned to a Air Force Tactical Communications unit in Germany from 76-79. (Just as the AF was pulling the majority of their Air Assests in German back behind the Rhine River.) I participated/survived in three REFORGER Excercises. The game plan was the forces that were already in Germany were to fight a holding action/fighting withdrawal as best we could while US and NATO Air Assets worked to try to slow things down as much as possible to give the US time to surge additional Air and Ground assets to Germany. (The funny thing was that the REFORGER excecises always seemed to be held during Oktoberfest and becasuer I was out in some farmer's field making sure that the comm network was working, I never got to go. :( )
Then make enough missiles to equalize demand and supply. 😄
Every time I see a Task & Purpose video I know I’ll be laughing my ass off for a good while.
The title aged well.
ATACMS just decimated nearly 21 russian helicopters in Berdiansk and Luhansk regions. Great debut
Pew pew pew! Nice history brief, thanks for doing these.
One ATACAMS missles with cluster bombs attack on a Russian air base can make a big difference
Until the retaliation by 800kg HE thermobaric iskander and Novator tactical ballistic missiles prove potentially devastating against Ukrainian targets or city's in response.
@@John-hu9qg Sure, but those missiles would have to make it past the Patriot systems first. And Ukraine is getting more of them.
@@goUkraine Easily done, overwhelm it with cheap Shahed-136 drones, or a barrage of Kalibir or P-800 cruise missiles, ahead of an Iskander or Kinzhal strike. Patriot battery's have been exhausted many times already, and even destroyed.
@@John-hu9qg they've already been striking cities, and knowingly leveling most of a city because you're throwing a fit about losing is more than just a bad look.
@@mcarrowtime7095 they (the Russians) are not losing, it has to be said.
On a roll Capp, keep it up brother
Truths…great 💩, Cappy.
Can I just say thank you for sharing the clip at 18:43 of what I'm assuming is a civilian biking on the dirt road as the HIMARS missile launches and they just duck their head like 'Yup just another day in a warzone." and keep biking.
I was looking to see if anyone else noticed!
@18:44 The dude casually pedaling in front of the M142 HIMARS launch vehicle is like... 💥"WHAT THE F******CK!!!" 😱🤣🤣🤣
Cappy - I saw you got upset in the comments the other day coz someone said you were ‘just the presenter’ and others did the writing etc, when it turns out you’re doing just about everything yourself…
I also assumed you had a team helping you - how else can you keep pumping out these quality videos, coz its a LOT of work! So just want to say, thanks for the great content - and also - get some help with the writing and stuff my friend- take it easy on yourself! You’re a class presenter, don’t want to burn out dude 😁
Hey man, I was in the gulf war, on 14 Feb 91, My M109 howitzer crew assaulted a supply hub, in the first mechanized artillery raid in history, we got aggressed by Iraqi tanks, I was outside the gun pumping in shells, when the smoke plumes came from behind us, went over our heads and landed on the tanks, they all popped their tops ( like soviet takes do) and there were multiple turrets just spinning in the air. It was a beautiful ting.
I used to naively think that we lived in a peaceful world and that america spent too much on the military budget.
After ukraine and hamas massacres, ive realized we arent spending enough.
I hope lots of our fellow Americans come to the same conclusion. If I ever hear “the U.S. spends more than the next X countries” again I’ll scream. We actually pay and care for our service members, unlike our possible opponents.
@@billbrockman779 what do our soldiers have to do with Ukraine or Hamas? they have no business being anywhere near either
@@Melontheyoutuber I was responding to the comment above, if you understand the format of this site. The amount we spend on our service members results in us spending more than possible opponents.
@@Melontheyoutuber America's soldiers have every business dealing with America's enemies wherever they are in the world. At the moment that doesn't mean boots on the ground in Ukraine or getting involved in Israel (especially since the Israelis are more than capable of taking care of business), but degrading Russia's ability to fight and ensuring they lose in Ukraine and lose badly is very much in the interests of the US military.
@trolleriffic not when the eventual result is global thermonuclear war it isn't, and ffs, Israel had info regarding 9/11 that it purposely didn't pass on, Israel only cares about its own interests but has a massive lobby abroad, its upset because it was caught in the middle of shabbat by some paragliders and a well planned, limited operation, going into turbo overdrive revenge fantasy mode in response, clearing out its very own backyard ghetto in the same way its own people were routed from their ghettos periodically into smaller and smaller areas.
"No official statements have confirmed the decision to send ATACMS to Ukraine" (paraphrased). Wow that sentence sure aged fast hehe. In any case, great video. ATACMS have done well in their Ukraine debut, hopefully more are sent. They were going to be decommissioned anyway, so might as well let Ukraine put them to good use.
that budanov quote about airfields hits different today lol
I gotta love yr creative advertising Cappy 🤣
I have enough background on this that correlates well with what Cappy is saying. This validates his overall video. The data is accurate and analysis is done well. This is the finest high level review of ATACMs I have seen - including some classified ones from back in the day. Again, Well Done. KUTGW
The air force changing the clasification of the missle program to kick the army out of it is hilarious to me
Inter-service rivalry really is hilarious. One of the biggest sources of opposition to the US developing an anti-ballistic missile capability back in the 60s and 70s was the US Air Force because they didn't want their Minuteman Missile silos being protected by a system under the control of the US Army. It was also a fight for money - the Air Force wanted the funds spent on growing the Minutemen fleet to make it harder to destroy all of it instead of investing in ways of protecting it from attack.
You guys have been killing it Cappy.
I had to rewind as I thought I'd hallucinated when I saw a dude on a bicycle just duck his head a bit and carry on pedalling as a ballistic missile was fired over his ass. Hardcore!😅
Love your show. You and Kyle Hill style and finesse could be totally related… excellent and envious keep up the good work..
3:03 Cappy: "It's so big..."
Average infantryman: That's what she said. 😂
The missile recently used appears to be from the late 90s (based on images of the casing put out following the strike). We sent nearly 30 year old tech, and it defeated Russian air defense.
You sent even Patriot systems.
American army was not capable to intercept OLD ballistic SCUD missiles and drones using "the most advance' system...
But ukrainians, after formal training during 3 month....
managed to shoot down hypersonic missiles... 😃😆😂
@@valeros8217 the issues stopping SCUD missilese in 1991 was a big that was fixed about 30 years ago
@@OriginalWarwood -
LOL!!!
You continue to lie that people with ESL level, able to learn system well in 2 - 4 month….
And were capable to intercept missiles; which generals in Pentagon CLEARLY admitted - “we have no such a system to intercept Kinzhal missiles”
Please, stop playing dumb here
@@valeros8217 LMAO yet Russia can't hit Kyiv :) and Ukraine keeps hitting Russian air bases and Sevastopol. Also it is the system that downed the hypersonic missile not the "training". It has always been theoretically possible to do as such and there were likely simulations to prepare for it.
I am certain there are a lot of people in uniform in Washington, London, Brussels, Tokyo as well as Moscow who are stunned with the ATACMS ability to penetrate S-400 cover.
And maybe a few people in Ankara, who are checking their warranty cars for a refund...
My wife didn’t believe that was a phrase we say, thank you for providing proof
Warheads on foreheads?
The Precision Strike Missile is now in production, the ATACMS should be able released in large numbers soon.
We'll need a base supply of PrSMs before we will truly begin off loading large numbers of ATACMS, which is why we're only giving Ukraine a small number right now. We'll likely give Ukraine more in late 2024, or early 2025 when the war is expected to ramp up.
This is standard stuff. That is great job Cappy. You nailed it again. You are one of the best analysts on RUclips.
Its very good having more videos. The worse part is that they're uploaded when its late in the evening for me.
musst du haia machen?
@@redactedanticretin ich bin leider noch weiter im Osten. Finnlan. Also ja.
@@DaOideRassl sei froh das du net in der bunten republik bist 😂
I usually skip adverts but your goat gun advert this time was awesome!
Storm Shadow is frakin' beautiful. As for ATACAM class missiles - well there are some insane videos of Israeli Lora.
Fun fact: DARPA is also largely responsible for the creation of the Internet. That's from "History of Internet," Wikipedia.
Speaking of aliens and guns, I hope that Cappy gets a sponsorship to cover Earth Defense Force 6 when it releases.
Chris has charisma. But there is something completely unique about the way he speaks. It’s like he’s on the phone with each of us individually and giving a report that we need to hear. Like he’s both someone who reports to us, and is also a close friend. He speaks with a measured urgency. Chris, and you might have figured out, I’m trying to pinpoint how your delivery is unique, and how it’s just as important as the content. I swear it feels like we’re at a bar, and you’re telling me something important that I need to know before we part. OK. I can’t pinpoint it. Anyone else have an opinion?
Very good points. It's partly the way he isn't overly formal (his presentation & delivery is relaxed, not stiff), and he modulates his voice so it's warm, interesting, humorous etc. Part voice and part personality and good storytelling. Ryan McBeth has a similar approach.
US switched to PrSM literally THIS year. As more of those come on line, ATACMS will be phased out anyway so likely a reason they are being delivered now.
That's what he said in the video.
@@zbyszanna definitely posted before vid was finished lol
Like the Patriot it was the hottest item for sale during the gulf war.
Cappy's Commericals are the only ones I don't skip!
It’s kill radius is one Kerch Strait Bridge.
Hi, I do like the way you are “taking the piss” out of your description of the miniature weapons models. If you can keep up that banter you could successfully be accepted into a British infantry platoon. Keep it up!!!! Cheers mate. Harera
The dude riding his bike in front of the HIMARS as it shoots is officially deaf…or at least he is NOW. 🤣
All weapons manufacturers must be making killer profits these days ... yay !
Thanks to Russia
@@deprogrammyes and no. America has to try and wrangle its overspending on corrupt military industry companies. We spend wayyy too much. Could do with some leaning up.
Our budget is too small right now. We need to get funding back to national guard which is broke. Yes those companies are sketch but our military needs an increase in budget badly
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@@doesntmatter4477lmao that’s delusional dude you want the entire economy to be for the military or smth
the subcontractor process is a lot more flexible than that. Lockheed doesn't have to manage a massive unwieldy supply chain but each subcontractor is responsible for sourcing inputs and delivering on time. they can either have the current company make more, or just start another contract other companies can bid on.
if the engineers did a good job with design for manufacturing the subcontractors can spin up production faster and cheaper then they can do in house. If they didn't then feedback from the manufacturer has to make its way back to an engineer to evaluate design changes to make it manufacturable(easier to do in house). but for this project all that work was done 40 years ago.
I wonder why no one is talking about the Tomahawk ground launch cruise missile. It's inexpensive compared to ATACMS, has a longer range, and we have a large number in inventory.
Just a thought..
I think u need a specific pod to operate it or it can be only operated by ships and lots of supports assets maybe? Idk I'm just talking out my ass
Thought the only ground launched Tomahawks were nuclear. Plus one big benefit of ATACMS is hitting targets of opportunity where you may not have a large window and the missile getting there before the enemy can react really matters.
Once upon a time there was such a thing. Called GLCM. Cancelled (along with Pershing II) due to a treaty.
GLCM hasn't been in service since the fall of the Soviet Union.
Hope they don’t take this one down
Personally, I prefer to use SPMA-T or the MPTL artillery.
A classic AT-AT advance supported by some TIE Maulers is usually sufficient as well.
Excellent video... as well as sponsor add!
The flight time of the ATACMS vs Storm Shadow isn’t the only thing that changes things big time for Ukraine, the russians see the Ukrainian SU-24s to launch Storm Shadow pretty fast on their radars and can at least prepare somewhat for a strike. Not possible with ATACMS anymore!
You said exactly the same, when first Himars show up on front...
At that time, all 6 missiles able to hit target. As of today, ukrainians count as success, when 1 or 2 missiles hit the target.
In 2 month we will see that ATACMS became useless...
@@valeros8217 do you have source on interception rates?
@@tfdsuikp - You have no access to read reports from ukrainian and russian sides?
AS soon as US Himars start using - all 6 sometimes 5 missiles able to hit targets.
And today, UKRAINIAN military reported - they have 0 or 1 hits from 6 launched missiles.
Others were jammed or intercepted…
You should read and learn a bit…
@@valeros8217 Against what target were they jammed or intercepted? Also i would caution anyone to take Russian claims with a cup of salt as they have been known to grossly lie about well...everything.
HIMARS is still effective against poorly defended targets. For high value targets Ukrainians now uses Storm Shadow for static non time sensitive targets and ATACMS for mobile time sensitive targets.
@@valeros8217 that is loud statement from your side. I heard about some jamming systems that are theoretically can jam himars mlrs rockets, but that's arguable and I'm not sure they have a lot of them. Few days ago i saw photo of one himars rocket reported as intercepted by russians. But i don't know about real reasons. Anyway, for a big enough target where 1 missile is not enough uaf launches minimum 3 missiles as i heard it near Kherson.
Yes, russian occupational forces now are evading strikes by moving far sway from it's range. That's why Ukraine should be given deadlier weapons asap.
We don't see now so much news of destroyed ammo storages and command centers etc, like we first heard it in summer 2022, where around 4 himarses stopped whole russian offensive, with big ammo storages struck dozen of times every day. They had there ammo for 3 days of fighting for mlrs, sams, artillery on mykolaiv theatre.
But uaf still regularly release videos of successful strikes with not only 155 mm high precision artillery but with himarses too. They now focused more on radars, jammers, sams, drone operators, tos 1 systems, mlrs (grad, smerch, uragan) and etc.
And talking from my experience i heard himars and m270 incomes for few months from early july till start of October near Kherson. Every rocket i heard hit the target. Not a single was intercepted as i heard it. 3 missile hits, 6. Later with m270 arriving you could hear around 10. At some point russian occupational forces become so desperate they tried to launch aa missiles from buks and tors in primitive way - just in direction of missiles they somehow knew about, but that happened only few times. Setting timer on fuse ww2 guns style, it exploded somewhere in air nowhere near himars and not on time, after rockets landed or way before rockets arrived. Usually they just launched missiles with no effect.
The best they could do is to terrorize neighbouring mykolaiv region, launching 3 to 10 s 300 or tochka u missiles in reply long time after himars attacked, around 3 to 10 minutes after mlrs income.
Great updates and clarity! Thanks Cappy 😉
😂😂😂😂 That add was priceless
I had a stats teacher in college who worked on Assault Breaker; she told us what she could about it and I was just gobsmacked. Didn't even believe it. Then I talked to a buddy of mine who'd been in the Army and told me how the thing was black magic, and in computer simulations the thing basically shifted a whole battle's win/lose probability in favor of defending NATO forces...
rarely do i watch an ad, let alone comment on it, but that was a pretty great ad 😂
This video aged very well, even a week later...
Bruh, rofl that "Reach out and touch someone”. That Yeet warhead definitely intruded someone's personal space😂
Put the Tomahawk on a truck....you ain't seen any real demand yet
You'd definitely need a bigger launch vehicle. The tomahawk is about 7 feet longer than the ATACMS.
look at this chad at 18:41 just casually goes around on his bike during HIMARS launch 😂
Oh my God, 3 videos in a 5 day period, did cappy clone himself to make more videos
Thanks for sharing Cappy
Well, the attack ems they sent are 30 ! years old clusters and at the end of their shelf life. Anyways, Ukraine is doing us a favor by using them up so we don’t have to pay to get rid of them. Glad to see them going to good use.
PrSM, the ATACMs replacement, is supposed to be coming online, this year.
The ICM version isn't supposed to be used anymore under US doctrine.
Sending the ICM version of ATACMs, shouldn't hurt the US inventory.
I love that the development history includes increasingly complex payloads for, in the end, going back to "big boom = good"
18:46 the guy in the bicycle is the Chillest Man...
Russia is very familiar with using long-range missiles. Education on any topic should be comprehensive 📖
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Hello there again. 😂.
Let's hope their command centers will soon be able to get some personal experience with them
The Russians are good at telling everyone how good their weapons and soldiers are the best. Implementing that is their struggle 😂😂😂 they’re the third best army in Ukraine 🇺🇦 😂
Experience only on the receiving end not the giving end 😂😂😂
Great. If the US can afford to donate a few more of its missiles to Ukraine to save money on maintenance, which is part of the reason why it donated some of its M113s, then Russia has all the more reason to back off.