Titanfall 2 Tier List - March 2017 - All Guns, Titans, Boosts, and Tacticals Ranked!

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  • @OmegaPrimeBeast
    @OmegaPrimeBeast 8 лет назад +504

    "Roll the dice is B tier"
    "Don't use it outside of live fire"
    *laughs in amped smart pistol*

    • @bernardo4157
      @bernardo4157 8 лет назад +21

      Mothaship Q WAIT, YOU CAN AMP THE SMART PISTOL?!!?

    • @RetroRampage
      @RetroRampage 8 лет назад +71

      yeah if you get amped weapons first and then get smart pistol, you can activate them one after another and get an amped smart pistol. The chances are so low, but it's possible.

    • @OmegaPrimeBeast
      @OmegaPrimeBeast 8 лет назад +35

      Yeet, turns it from a three shot kill to a two shot kill, allowing you to potentially get 12 kills out of the thing instead of 8. RetroRampage is right though, the odds aren't high but they're higher than you'd think. Frothy is spot on when he says that you have higher odds of getting them good good boosts.

    • @KhârnTheAngry
      @KhârnTheAngry 8 лет назад +1

      Yeah, and trust me its fucking ridiculous. I love it as much as i hate it :')

    • @Apollo-tj1vm
      @Apollo-tj1vm 8 лет назад +3

      Mothaship Q also if you get a pilot sentry in boody hunt at 35% you can kick your team start by a lot

  • @AlmantasKli
    @AlmantasKli 8 лет назад +181

    Ticks on C tier as a boost.
    Spicy boys on SSS tier as a meme.
    🔥🔥🌶️🌶️🔥🔥

    • @declan2775
      @declan2775 8 лет назад +8

      Almantas Kli Vaughny?

    • @AlmantasKli
      @AlmantasKli 8 лет назад +9

      Well r/titanfall mostly, but yeah! :D
      redd.it/60tis1

    • @nikodemvankenobi
      @nikodemvankenobi 7 лет назад +1

      Almantas Kli Spicy Bois*

  • @mrsomebody
    @mrsomebody 8 лет назад +22

    Friday night at 11pm Scorch is definitely C Tier. But Saturday morning, 8 am - suddenly gets bumped to S Tier. "Uh, little dude. You're standing in fire. Fire hurts, that's why you're dying."

    • @TheAtHamptonDotCom
      @TheAtHamptonDotCom 7 лет назад +2

      this is the truest shit anybody said. time of day is the most busted weapon.

  • @Echo1608.
    @Echo1608. 8 лет назад +40

    I've actually been using Holopilot a lot more lately because it can counter Pulse blade, since respawn made it so holograms show up on the Pulses. Also Bamboozling people is fun.

  • @merono3113
    @merono3113 8 лет назад +414

    "melee" S tier* lol

    • @aninterestingpenguin9374
      @aninterestingpenguin9374 8 лет назад +8

      True

    • @ItsCioffi
      @ItsCioffi 8 лет назад +20

      merono ensen seriously. Idk what happened between now and the live fire update but it's feeling like they added commando pro to melee.

    • @lymh4850
      @lymh4850 8 лет назад +19

      That's when you are the laggy son of a b*tch who takes every punch with his face and completely impervious while he punches you from across the map when 4 buildings and all 12 titans in his way.

    • @Karma_8413
      @Karma_8413 8 лет назад +3

      Because it has too much lunge

    • @merono3113
      @merono3113 8 лет назад +2

      Green Arrow yeah it has way to much attraction and range. I would not mind an adjustment to the melee range.

  • @midnightgreen20
    @midnightgreen20 8 лет назад +40

    In terms of consoles, I think it's worth noting that the flatline would be considered a-tier, borderline s-tier. With the aim assist, it ends up being way too consistent at killing at close to medium range thanks to the damage buff it received a while ago. It is to the point now that it can go toe-to-toe with SMGs in close quarters, and on some occasions outclass them thanks to RNG.

    • @spidudetoo1212
      @spidudetoo1212 8 лет назад +5

      midnightgreen20 don't forget the g2 is s-tier on console also with its absurd aim assist and accuracy.

    • @LeeONardo
      @LeeONardo 8 лет назад +1

      I've noticed an annoying increase in phase shift/Flatline users.
      I rarely see Alternators as if everyone sees a Flatline as its bigger, better brother.

    • @argusy3866
      @argusy3866 7 лет назад +1

      I dont like the G2. Yes is powerfull and everything, but I always have the feeling that I kill faster with full auto guns.

    • @thebigson8721
      @thebigson8721 7 лет назад

      midnightgreen20 I agree

  • @domonator5000
    @domonator5000 8 лет назад +109

    they should replace amped wall with hard cover and make amped wall a boost

    • @drift2557
      @drift2557 7 лет назад +10

      I agree with that. Hard cover literally is just a wall with no extra damage

    • @adamskyarmy6159
      @adamskyarmy6159 6 лет назад +1

      No that would be overpowered for somebody that stacks up their boosts

    • @vo3_bigpizza_yt921
      @vo3_bigpizza_yt921 6 лет назад +3

      Adam Skyarmy That... makes no sense.

    • @grimreefer9324
      @grimreefer9324 4 года назад +2

      I had no idea the hard cover even existed until I looked it up.
      It's the A-Wall... but worse. And you need to get your 20% before you can slap it down. And it can be destroyed.

    • @heiseigodzilla4914
      @heiseigodzilla4914 3 года назад

      A-wall should stay

  • @commonsense2191
    @commonsense2191 8 лет назад +36

    Ive been killed by smart pistol like twice, in all my time in Titanfall 2. Im gen 8.37 and the weapon is of no threat as long as they dont sneak up on you. I can outclass it with pretty much anything. I don't see why people complain about it, it's worse than it was in Titanfall and Titanfall 2 has much faster kill time than the first. Plus its really easy to get the turn around on them since it displays "pilot locking"

    • @aolson1111
      @aolson1111 8 лет назад +2

      Reid Gilbert Seriously. You could run smart pistol, or you could take a shotgun or r-97 and do 100 times better, and NOT completely gimp yourself against Titans.

    • @commonsense2191
      @commonsense2191 8 лет назад

      A Olson Exactly

    • @dkcsi9256
      @dkcsi9256 7 лет назад +3

      Reid Gilbert People complain about it because they suck. They cant turn around and fire in under 5 seconds which is plenty of time or even turn a corner.

    • @commonsense2191
      @commonsense2191 7 лет назад

      HoivinDax SteamAchievement Or even phase shift.

    • @aaronb6878
      @aaronb6878 7 лет назад +1

      in the first game this thing was total aids, but honestly i dont mind it the second time around. There was a time when i used it almost exclusively (as a boost, not as a gun lmao) in bounty hunt just to farm minions fast.

  • @mand0rk
    @mand0rk 8 лет назад +180

    If every ability is OP, wouldn't that mean none of them are? Let's buff holo pilot and cloak. Bring 'em to S tier.

    • @ItsCioffi
      @ItsCioffi 8 лет назад +29

      mand0rk I've been thinking that exact same thing. Tacticals being OP is the point. If all of them are OP then that is the balance point. Bring cloak back to its original setting where firing makes you flicker and make holopilots a little less dumb and then every tactical is s tier.
      However with that said I would like to see some big changes because as much as I think tactical should be powerful, everything should have a counter play.
      For example, a wall should be destroyable either by destroying the base or brute damage. No health should regen in phase shift. Sonar blade should pulse like map hack. Stim I think it fine as is.

    • @AntiAirStryke
      @AntiAirStryke 8 лет назад +5

      Cloak was S tier. It was ridiculous. If they made it so you could selectively activate/deactivate it like in Crysis, then it would be fine.

    • @Malakith
      @Malakith 8 лет назад +4

      Cloak is more than fine imo. Holo pilot though...oh boy.

    • @mand0rk
      @mand0rk 8 лет назад +6

      ItsCioffi I feel like focusing fire on a segment of A-wall should start to degrade that segment. That way the entire thing doesn't go down after a few shots, but it still leaves you vulnerable.

    • @ItsCioffi
      @ItsCioffi 8 лет назад +7

      mand0rk that's definitely an interesting idea. The whole wall can't be destroyed but holes can be punched it it. This would also make it valuable for a team to focus fire an awall to remove it. It's been said before though, a wall and hard cover seem like they are in opposite places.

  • @samfish2550
    @samfish2550 3 года назад +1

    I will say that my current favorite death cam is a guy blasting me to pieces as I enter a narrow hall who I didn't know was there.... Only to reveal the tick that I had seconds before decided randomly to place down as it readied to detonate.... Tick power man. Don't doubt it....

  • @MarkJohnson-jx3zr
    @MarkJohnson-jx3zr 8 лет назад +13

    The tone and diction of this video would have you believe that he really doesn't like this game.

  • @MillionthZeroGaming
    @MillionthZeroGaming 8 лет назад +1

    As someone that uses the RE-45, Holopilot, and Scorch, I feel personally attacked

  • @crimmycat117
    @crimmycat117 8 лет назад +39

    i still see Tone being an S tier titan. She still has built in wall hacks, a Really good wall that rivals the great wall of china, the capability to do damage around corners without seeing your opponent and a core that says "Fuck your fun :^) " despite it being less damaging than it was before. She's enough to be rivals with ion. Only thing holding her back (which is super debatable in itself) would be her Primary 40mil but even still that's decent.
    inb4 i get called a tone main

    • @Designation6
      @Designation6 8 лет назад

      CrimsonCat117 not meme enough so I'm offended -_-

    • @iMarcusXBL
      @iMarcusXBL 7 лет назад

      Shes strong, but the salvo damage nerf has really limited her. shes in line now

    • @crimmycat117
      @crimmycat117 7 лет назад

      iMarcusXBL i agree to an extent. while the damage is definitely lower, the core itself is still powerful all because you can guide the missles to by pass enemy defenses. the core work against every titan except a blocking ronin (tho most cores dont work on him when blocking). it's why for me shes still an S tier titan.

    • @fpkblast8465
      @fpkblast8465 7 лет назад

      CrimsonCat117 tones a girl? wtf

    • @Boobienjoyer
      @Boobienjoyer 7 лет назад

      CrimsonCat117 ronin is the Mexicans ronin can arc wave the particle wall and it'll get destroyed instantly so I wouldn't compare it to the great Wall of China also Mexicans can go right through the particle wall but hey that's just my opinion

  • @MidnightWyvern
    @MidnightWyvern 8 лет назад +2

    GOD your music selections are smooth as hell. I never thought I'd watch videos that make fast-paced shooter gameplay relaxing and chill.

    • @solomonchild3398
      @solomonchild3398 8 лет назад

      MidnightWyvern I like zone out and meditate to it lol

  • @bluefinretro6670
    @bluefinretro6670 8 лет назад +28

    Is there any reason to use the carbine compared to the CAR? I mean really.

  • @danielprater8217
    @danielprater8217 3 года назад +1

    Titanfall 2 is my favorite game to play vampire on my Xbox every single day

    • @danielprater8217
      @danielprater8217 3 года назад

      10 balls with my favorite and the play-by-play every single day

  • @FrothyOmen
    @FrothyOmen  8 лет назад +153

    i probably broke like 3 things in this video that I don't even know about, pls use this thread to make fun of me thx ;_;

    • @shibs_bot
      @shibs_bot 8 лет назад +19

      this is a happy place no bullying.

    • @MrRubenMdA
      @MrRubenMdA 8 лет назад +4

      FrothyOmen It's okay! Nice video anyway :D

    • @jfitz7777
      @jfitz7777 8 лет назад +18

      Fuck you frothy, I do not watch your videos because you are black.

    • @R00KIE_GUY
      @R00KIE_GUY 8 лет назад +2

      Giovanni Lemos, Burst firing solves that problem.

    • @forrestballard8968
      @forrestballard8968 8 лет назад +22

      Why do attack Respawn? "Respawn hates fun." Respawn is doing a great job of doing what we want from complaints and you further complain to them? Give them a break

  • @jonathanbjarnemar8650
    @jonathanbjarnemar8650 8 лет назад +4

    Scorch is really good in my opinion, can close off ways, become a sniper when needed and wreak everything when using flame-shield

    • @tobiasayres1932
      @tobiasayres1932 5 лет назад +2

      Good Scorch main here scorch can close gaps with flame shield punish pushing titans and stop retreating titans. The only way scorch fails is if you are up against a skilled ronin or lazor core.

  • @Paul_Ivanish
    @Paul_Ivanish 7 лет назад +2

    Hey Frothy. Thanks again for videos like these. The update value to the information you provide is quite high, and frankly, since I finished that Witcher 3 game and its expansions, I'm giving some serious thought to returning. Although, honestly, seeing how broken the Pilot Tactical kits are, everything is put back into perspective. Regardless, thanks much and see you in game.

  • @idontwanttoputmyname403
    @idontwanttoputmyname403 7 лет назад

    TFW I start watching your channel in October, then stop, then start watching again now, and only now discover you meme. I've been missing so much.

  • @richardvlasek2445
    @richardvlasek2445 8 лет назад +7

    Do you re-use scripts from older videos? Because I'm pretty sure I heard many of the lines you said before.

    • @Srparisher
      @Srparisher 8 лет назад

      Richard Vlášek it's likely, no reason to fix what isn't broken.

    • @Starkillerscat
      @Starkillerscat 8 лет назад

      Shane Parish If it isn't broken, it doesn't have enough functions yet

    • @zyad48
      @zyad48 8 лет назад +2

      He probably didnt change a lot of the script from the last one because it did a good enough job of explaining most things anyways

    • @bernardo4157
      @bernardo4157 8 лет назад +7

      If it ain't fix, don't break it

  • @inthepipe5by576
    @inthepipe5by576 3 года назад +1

    Holy shit how does he hit that many shots

  • @foremanski9237
    @foremanski9237 8 лет назад +83

    Smart pistol shouldn't be removed, I don't think it should be changed much either. You overestimate how well people can use it as most people just single tap it, thinking how that works. I have a lot of fun playing with it however one interesting way of nerfing it (if it had to) would be to only add it to the dice roll. Therefore we have more variety with boost usage as well as still providing a route for people to still play the smart pistol.
    Edited to clear up my views, just saying if there are nerfs this could be an interesting idea

    • @shibs_bot
      @shibs_bot 8 лет назад +1

      you can get it from dice roll.

    • @herpderp1974
      @herpderp1974 8 лет назад +10

      Uhhhhhhh why? It has 2 clips and is a boost nothing needs to be done to it...it also removes your anti titan weapon putting you at a disadvantage in titan game modes

    • @Drivaawwrrr
      @Drivaawwrrr 8 лет назад +2

      Perhaps make it so that it can only fire only once a full lock-on is acquired...?, and maybe extend the time required to lock-on (although i think it's fine where it is now personally).

    • @foremanski9237
      @foremanski9237 8 лет назад +1

      RUAPRO RONIN I know, just saying it could be restricted to dice roll instead of boost on its own it it had to be nerfed

    • @foremanski9237
      @foremanski9237 8 лет назад

      Herp Derp a low cost boost that allows you to pretty much auto-win gunfights if used properly. Also why the hell would you use smart pistol in Titan vs Titan? In any other Titan game modes you could just as easily pick up another weapon from someone you kill.

  • @MechanicReeper
    @MechanicReeper 8 лет назад +1

    I choose the mastiff all the time in live fire and wreck, sometimes it reaches just a bit farther than Eva-8, plus it is more often a one shot unlike Eva

  • @justinzhang8436
    @justinzhang8436 8 лет назад +12

    SWITCH HARD COVER WITH A-WALL WHOS WITH ME

  • @KnobleKnives
    @KnobleKnives 8 лет назад

    I'm a simple man. I see a tier list by FrothyOmen, I click and upvote before even watching.

  • @OrangeOO7
    @OrangeOO7 8 лет назад +63

    I hate how R97 and Amped Weapons boost is accepted by most of the players. Meanwhile I'm playing with EPG and and I'm getting all the salt and hate. What is wrong with people? Why does Respawn even try to achieve a balance when there is the cancerous balance breaking Amped Weapons boost in the game.

    • @NeroLeblanc
      @NeroLeblanc 8 лет назад +9

      Shuichi bc epg actually takes skill

    • @OrangeOO7
      @OrangeOO7 8 лет назад

      I should have mentioned that I'm on PC

    • @KolyatKrios
      @KolyatKrios 8 лет назад +17

      Actually can't believe you think that a slow firing projectile weapon is easier to use than an SMG in this game just because it has a bit of splash damage

    • @NeroLeblanc
      @NeroLeblanc 8 лет назад +14

      ***** It's slow firing and has barely any splash damage. Just because you hit someone with splash damage doesn't mean it's going to be a kill. You have to hit directly in order for it to be a one hit kill.

    • @OrangeOO7
      @OrangeOO7 8 лет назад +10

      @Nico Laub @ KolyatKrios EPG is not easy to use. If you pick that gun you are at a disadvantage
      (which is fine because it's meant to be an anti titan gun too). It has like the highest time to kill. Also direct hits against fast moving players are difficult as fuck. If I kill you with 2 or 3 splash damage shots it means that you are bad because you couldn't kill me before. You need to carefully lead and place your shots while wall jumping and
      slide hoping like mad about the map to be any decent with this gun in pubs. Any smg (besides volt) is easier to use and more efficient than the EPG. Oh also an EPG player has to deal with his own splash damage. But seriously have you watched this video and have you watched Frothy's other videos too? I don't think so.

  • @MyLordZeus
    @MyLordZeus 4 года назад +1

    The smart pistol isn't crap, everyone just hates it bec it's so good

  • @PretentiousAdonis
    @PretentiousAdonis 8 лет назад +107

    Can you just add a bitch tier and leave the devotion in it?

    • @esotericschizoidoccultconjurer
      @esotericschizoidoccultconjurer 8 лет назад +2

      lel... sadly I totally exploit op weapons like that daily.

    • @PretentiousAdonis
      @PretentiousAdonis 8 лет назад +8

      MilkStud Bullet I feel like a cunt whenever that gun is even in one of my loadouts, the level of salt that gun brings out of me is insane.

    • @PretentiousAdonis
      @PretentiousAdonis 8 лет назад +1

      Storm A wall + Devotion + Tone = get out

    • @kryvex4996
      @kryvex4996 7 лет назад +3

      Your Waifu's best friend nah. G2 users fuckin camp at the edge of the map and spam kill me with perfect accuracy and zero recoil. same with ronin with his sword block that has an infinite fucking duration and practically turns him into the goddamn T1000 and always has his sword core ready.

    • @PretentiousAdonis
      @PretentiousAdonis 7 лет назад +1

      Kryvex G2 gets thrown into bitch tier, Ronin users get thrown into bitch tier until a cooldown is placed on sword block

  • @drearyplane8259
    @drearyplane8259 7 лет назад

    Thoughts of a very new, console player:
    The Mastiff has one use - it's pretty effective in close-range campaign Spectre fights.
    I really like the MGL, it just means I don't have to worry about aiming while I'm trying not to die in Titan v Pilot fights.

  • @ronintheronin8035
    @ronintheronin8035 8 лет назад +12

    could it be that they took the mozambique as base for the "double" take?

    • @iamhappyso
      @iamhappyso 8 лет назад

      Imo alternator flatline phase shift devotion g2 and ion laser shot need a nerf

    • @Tunaposting
      @Tunaposting 8 лет назад

      iamhappyso PSN the Alternator would be fine if it wasn't so strong at a range. Or if it was like, a designated long range SMG in which case it should probably deal less damage up close.
      Also Laser Shot 100% ruins any possible long range play from any Titan. Which is sad considering that's all Northstar can do. It should consume something like 60% of Ion's energy so it can't be spammed so easily while still being semi reliable. Also hitscan Northstar please.

    • @iamhappyso
      @iamhappyso 8 лет назад

      Vinny Sape Yeah northstar's plasma railgun having travel time and laser shot not having travel time makes no sense at all smh

    • @Irfan87
      @Irfan87 8 лет назад +2

      Ion's Laser Shot SHOULD be HITSCAN, it's a LASER. It's fine as it is. I do agree North'star's Plasma Railgun should be hitscan or damn near to it, its a freaking railgun afterall. With that being said, it still outranges Ion's LS. Also LS should take up 60% of Ion's ability? BULLSHIT, Ion is the most balanced Titan in game. Laser Shot is pretty much is only offence since the Splitter Rifle sucks balls. It can only be shot twice anyway and doing so will take away its power to use other abilities. Pls dont be silly.

    • @ItsCioffi
      @ItsCioffi 8 лет назад +1

      iamhappyso PSN the railgun having travel time makes so much sense. Since after all it is shooting a projectile. That's the point of a railgun. The problem is the laser shot does to much damage on critical heats which are stupidly easy to get with it because of the more than generous hitbox. See when happens when a ronin shows up after you've popped two laser shots and tell me how OP laser shot is. You're all but dead.
      I don't disagree that I've always felt ION was top tier but it's strength can also be it's weakness as ION can be easily overwhelmed because of your low DPS.
      As with most problems in the game I find that it all revolves around the shields. Tones problem was never the salvo or 40mm, the problem was that the shield cooldown starts before the wall is down again giving a tone player almost unrestricted use of mobile cover with enhanced wall. I find that ions power lies in the fact that certain abilities don't drain the vortex shield.
      Catching a legion power shot should always drain 1/4 of energy. Catching a fully charged railgun or rocket barrage should do something similar.
      While being poked by laser shot is annoying(and also the best ion strat) I find that ions power is in relentless pushing due to your fully mobile defense, always allowing you to move to the more advantageous position in the map.
      Fix the shields and I think a lot of balance issues will be fixed

  • @corndog_69
    @corndog_69 8 лет назад +2

    Flatline on console is easily the best weapon overall right now.

  • @colehastings3015
    @colehastings3015 8 лет назад +20

    When no one uses the volt on console because it horrible and then it gets a nerf

    • @esotericschizoidoccultconjurer
      @esotericschizoidoccultconjurer 8 лет назад +1

      Yeah, that volt nerf really and absurdly pisses me off I want it to be buffed so it can compete with the R201 and the CAR on console, I actually like the volt and feel it deserves a little more love.

    • @parkillerness
      @parkillerness 7 лет назад

      it is because of Microsoft contracts mandating that make it so that PC and concole volt got nerfed together.

    • @parkillerness
      @parkillerness 7 лет назад

      console*

    • @outsource3786
      @outsource3786 7 лет назад

      The one kinda huge problem with Titanfall 2 is the huge disparity in game play between consoles and PC. This would'n't be as big of a problem if Respawn didn't broadband nerf it, but rather nerfed it according to playability.
      On PC the volt was godlike because it was a laser that made it a point and click gun, nullifying any weapon with kick. You put your cross hair on someone at any range, and mow them down with 3 or 4 bullets. Because of this, it was given a huge damage penalty, which actually balanced it. Its still a laser, but at least you can't snipe with it.
      On console, however, it was awful because it was a laser, and was given very little aim assist. Sure, a good controller user could make do with it, but compared to other guns, it was at a disadvantage because of its low aim assist. Now its practically unusable because of its low damage and aim assist. I suggest to only use it to meme, or to poke snipers and be an annoying douche bag.

  • @LukeSmith-kt2ir
    @LukeSmith-kt2ir 7 лет назад +1

    The Mastiff low key is really good. I go positive with that thing in pilots v pilots, and sometimes I can seriously wreck the other team

  • @herpderp1974
    @herpderp1974 8 лет назад +40

    Everyone start complaing about the airborne accuracy penalty. So dumb that shit needs to go.

    • @Dioshiroupn
      @Dioshiroupn 8 лет назад +9

      literally punishing players for playing agile.

    • @Tobascodagama
      @Tobascodagama 8 лет назад +12

      Or just making it that boots-on-ground players aren't even more completely fucked than they already are? Multiplayer games need new players to stay viable, but you can't retain new players if they're getting smoked from across the map by ninjas two seconds after they spawn.

    • @zyad48
      @zyad48 8 лет назад +3

      Tobasco's argument: that would give a skill gap, we totally cant have that

    • @Tobascodagama
      @Tobascodagama 8 лет назад +5

      That's not my argument at all. Unless literally everything in your game is decided by RNG, skill gaps will always exist. The question is how big that skill gap should be and how it's expressed.
      In the case of the recoil penalty, it's basically saying that you can be a super happy fun ball ninja and master the mobility game, but that's going to come at a penalty to your ability to aim super precisely. Ninjas already have an advantage over players who focus on their aiming skills over mobility, because ninjas can already rotate to objectives faster, are harder to kill, and can approach from unexpected angles to get the jump on less-mobile players.
      All the recoil penalty does is say "hey, if you're gonna be a badass ninja, we're gonna dial back your TTK a tiny bit so your advantage doesn't feel totally unfair to everybody else".

    • @herpderp1974
      @herpderp1974 8 лет назад +3

      Dude they have A-wall and Amped weapons to abuse that have no counter other then flanking or a well tossed nade. Meanwhile the players who use the movements system are being nerfed why?

  • @superheartattack7498
    @superheartattack7498 7 лет назад

    Thanks for another great video Frothy. It's impressive how you foreshadowed problems that would arise in TF2 back in your critiques of the the TF1 dlc.
    In particular, you mentioned how the flatness of Zone-18 ruined the pilot vs titan dynamic. And that type of level design's a huge problem in TF2.
    Through a combination of highlighting pilots, long sightlines, laned maps, and a low TTK-Respawn lowered the skill floor too much. Now everyone's a threat, even if they barely move.
    It's created this weird disparity where the players that are playing the game like CoD are rewarded more than the players striving to improve at parkour.
    It reminds me of how in Mario Kart everyone's kept close together, even if someone's much better at racing than the rest. At a certain point, even if you're winning most of the races it's still not satisfying because you feel handicapped. That's how Titanfall 2 feels to me.
    But, I could just be nuts.

  • @JustAJoX
    @JustAJoX 8 лет назад +31

    New Frothy vid ? first like,then watch

  • @aaronbank-sedore7111
    @aaronbank-sedore7111 8 лет назад +1

    I've been really really looking forward to this updated teir list!!!

  • @mrsomebody
    @mrsomebody 8 лет назад +4

    The reason no one has caught on to the r-97 in my opinion is it isn't really distinctive, so you don't really notice when you are getting repeatedly killed by it. The Devotion's wind up sound is so distinct you get annoyed every time you hear it. The Hemlock's triple fire was super unique as well. The gun I'm starting to get annoyed hearing is the G2. I'd say it is S tier right now b/c you can stand at the back of the map and do hella damage similar to what the Hemlock used to be.

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  8 лет назад +3

      +Paul Forrester interesting theory! Yeah, the r97 doesn't have the same punch as the other guns when you get killed by it. Maybe that's a contributing factor.

  • @aurumxargentum
    @aurumxargentum 8 лет назад +1

    The audio describing the mastiff is the same for the last tier list! I feel smart!!

  • @idarkstarx6939
    @idarkstarx6939 7 лет назад +4

    *says S tier are the best*
    *whines about all but one*
    Quality

  • @miniguyw
    @miniguyw 8 лет назад +1

    "The smart pistol is a meme. It allows you to meme on kids while you yourself become a living meme."
    -Frothyomen 2017

    • @miniguyw
      @miniguyw 8 лет назад

      also he listed hard cover twice

  • @jayclark4239
    @jayclark4239 8 лет назад +9

    I think you're being unfair about the tacticals. They are mostly overpowered yes, but that makes everything equal? If everything is OP, then nothing is OP, game plays amazingly because of it and makes it better than the other big FPS games

    • @tommasosimonini4469
      @tommasosimonini4469 7 лет назад

      Topnotch 1998 problem is : not everyone of them is op, seriously there is no reasons to run holo pilot when you could just phase shift around the map, run like you've inhaled 20kg of coke or just know the whereabouts of your ennemies with a knife...

    • @Unmedicated_Moments
      @Unmedicated_Moments 7 лет назад +1

      Topnotch 1998 Wrong. Ghosts has all OP weapons and it fucking sucks

    • @jayclark4239
      @jayclark4239 7 лет назад +1

      Old glory ghosts was shit because it was ghosts 😂 you can't compare ghosts and the play style of it and guns to titanfall, that's just wrong! But I enjoyed ghosts to be fair

  • @gameguy301
    @gameguy301 8 лет назад +3

    the explanation of why the lists that didn't change where left out, ironically took up to much time, it would have taken less time to just say nothings changed, throw up a summarized list on screen for 10 seconds and say for explanations check previous video [annotation link].

  • @BiblicallyAccurateToaster
    @BiblicallyAccurateToaster 8 лет назад +8

    Alot of bitching @ Respawn...😳 IMO they deserve an award for creating 1 of the best FPS ever, creating free DLC maps & game modes (unheard of nowadays) & still caring enough to balance weapons that truly need it 🎉

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  8 лет назад +22

      Not really. If I didn't love the series and the development team, I wouldn't be here making a half hour long video about their game and helping people get better at it.

  • @PrinceSheogorath
    @PrinceSheogorath 3 года назад +1

    Ok so smart core is alright but smart pistol is bad? They are literally the same damn thing difference being ones bigger with infinite ammo, you have to work for both of them.

  • @savagejackson8007
    @savagejackson8007 8 лет назад +54

    Your so salty this time around. You need to take a break from this game and have fun with it when you play.

    • @kylegilliam5389
      @kylegilliam5389 8 лет назад +16

      Savage Jackson Fun? In an FPS game? On PC? When the R-97 and Devotion rule the lands? HAHAHAHAHA!

    • @guytypeperson
      @guytypeperson 7 лет назад +40

      I think Frothy is just a little too hung up on the idea of competitive play. Not that there isn't a place for it, but he seems super salty because he has gotten good enough that he can only be challenged by other sweaty tryhards and his public matches are just him scoring 250+ points and shitting on CoD kiddies that can't wallrun.
      I play the shit out of this game, and love it. I'm not great, but I have decent mobility (I get vertical and stay off the ground, even though I still suck as hoping/strafing), I usually top-3 in pubs (Roughly 70% of my matches), and I normally only get my ass handed to me when REALLY good people show up (that's not anything to brag about really, I'm just describing my point of view relative to Frothy's). When I get aggravated by plenty of cheesy things, like the smart pistol or titan drop kills in bounty hunt, but Frothy sounds damn near ready to quit, and it's probably because he's hit the ceiling.
      I think he has flown too close to the sun, and gotten burned. I mean, this game is about being a goddamned SciFi super hero with a 40 ft tall robot, the tacticals are supposed to be insane.

  • @TomRenegade
    @TomRenegade 7 лет назад +1

    step 1: use cold war
    step 2: use amped weapons
    step 3: play bounty hunt
    step 4: ???
    step 5: profit!

    • @rvbagentky6532
      @rvbagentky6532 6 лет назад

      Tom Renegade step 4, play ronin or scorch

  • @MrAtomBomber
    @MrAtomBomber 8 лет назад +4

    I'm an avid console player and I have to say, majority of the phase shifts that I saw in this video I could predict so your whole point on "You guys are playing the game slow". And if you think that there is that much of a difference between PC and Console gameplay then why don't you just make 2 tier guides for PC and Console?

  • @user-sl8jr9yl9p
    @user-sl8jr9yl9p 8 лет назад +4

    a day after this video comes out the colony reborn dlc is announced with new balance changes

  • @Jolsiuuw
    @Jolsiuuw 8 лет назад +10

    why kraber so low i got 52-0 match with it 2 moths ago

    • @iamhappyso
      @iamhappyso 8 лет назад

      He is speaking of his personal experiences with these weapons

    • @Jolsiuuw
      @Jolsiuuw 8 лет назад +2

      iamhappyso PSN o know but still i just don't get it

    • @Urtlesquirt
      @Urtlesquirt 8 лет назад +3

      It is all about consistency. It is a great pubstomp gun, but at high levels of play, you are just better off picking up a R97 or CAR as they are way less punishing for missing a shot or two.

    • @Jolsiuuw
      @Jolsiuuw 8 лет назад +1

      Urtlesquirt yeah but thatis weakness of gun i could as well say every smg suck becuse with sniper hitting 1 time is more important than with smgs

    • @Shaii-t3e
      @Shaii-t3e 8 лет назад

      No it means smg's are just more consistent and thus better, missing a shot with the kraber in a high level firefight means death, while missing a shot with the R-97 is barely a big deal.

  • @mwroberson9084
    @mwroberson9084 8 лет назад

    I love that the guns don't change, so the script doesn't change

  • @Wismic
    @Wismic 8 лет назад +32

    Your opinion is wrong.

  • @PastaSauce7
    @PastaSauce7 4 года назад +1

    How do you make the game look like that? Gives me some tf1 type vibes.

  • @teakay115
    @teakay115 8 лет назад +2

    I havent Even Played tf2 Since live fire

    • @reNINTENDO
      @reNINTENDO 8 лет назад +10

      I haven't played TF2 in years. I imagine it has a lot more hats by now.

    • @merlinv.3738
      @merlinv.3738 8 лет назад

      reNINTENDO lol ur a fucking legend

    • @bernardo4157
      @bernardo4157 8 лет назад

      Tim Köhler colony reborn is coming soon

  • @The-Rowller
    @The-Rowller 8 лет назад

    The Thunderbolts ability to zap any enemies around it makes it a great weapon to get enemies out of cover if you aim over the cover itself.

  • @emilelawrence1
    @emilelawrence1 8 лет назад +3

    yeah boi! I clicked on this shit so fucking fast!

  • @pedroferrer9436
    @pedroferrer9436 7 лет назад +1

    I think the smart pistol is a strong gun which is actually a nice addition. It gives new players the ability to fire while wallrunning and allows them to enjoy titanfall's fast movement mechanic. That said, it brings shame upon an experienced user and is very easily countered by any veteran player, thus not a particularly op boost.

  • @tommasosimonini4469
    @tommasosimonini4469 7 лет назад +3

    I would like to disagree with a few things here (console player here, gen 6.49 if that matters to you)
    -smart pistol : it might be super powerful, but is kinda easy to counter, the game tells you when someone has it, so just run behind cover, disengage the lock-on, wait for the ennemy to follow you (they usually will) and finish them off the way you want it. at point blank range SP is garbage, there's no point in locking on when you could just melee or mozambique the fuck out of him.
    - the flatline : IMO it deserves to be on A-tier, its damage is ridicoulous, and yes the recoil might be really bad, but... the alternator is in the same spot ? so just tap fire the bloody flatline and you'll get the same (if not better) results, the flatline is just a longer ranged alternator (both are godly though)
    - the r-97 : it is extremely good, but the reason no one use it is because they are afraid that this weapon requires way too much skills to manage the recoil, and erratic spray patterns (on console atleast)
    - map hack : it is just as broken as pulse blade, none of the 2 should be in the game or at the very least have the huge impact they actually do...
    oh and here is some ways we could bring balance to the game (my opinion, but based on what everyone complains, me included tbh)
    Pulse blade : either remove it, or make it the slowest charging Tactical, and nerf the ability as whole, have just red dots show on the mini map (same for map hack) so that way, radar jammer would actually be able to counter both super effectively
    phase shift : maybe make it have only one charge but that is 1.5X the duration of a normal charge or something like that, kinda hard to nerf...
    A-Wall : make the wall destructible, and like 1 archer rocket would be enough, that wouldn't be too hard to counter
    grapple : although i'm pretty sure i've had kills of people flying in mid air while grappling, the glitch needs to be fixed and maybe reduce the overall speed ? (without making it complete garbage)
    Stim : what if it inly boosted your speed, but didn't heal you ? it would still be an incredible tool for rushing/flanking but it would lose it's defensive capabilities
    holo pilot : what if you could place a clone somewhere, and it would start shooting ? (warning shots, that do no damage, but appear on the mini map nonetheless ----> useful decoy)
    cloak : probably the only balanced ability in game lol
    phase rewind : chaange it completely, what if instead it just teleported you out of bad situation on a random spot on the map ? might create a lot of chaos but could be very interesting
    holo pilot nova : change it as well, what if instead it summoned 3 spectre that follow you and fight for you ?

  • @Beliefacy
    @Beliefacy 8 лет назад

    Thanks bro I learned two things about the boosts from your input! Didn't notice battery backup offering that "shield" and amped weps reloading for you O_O

  • @roxitios
    @roxitios 8 лет назад

    I feel happy that I don't notice the center dot going away on the R-97. Especially on console.

  • @EruWan_Ernest
    @EruWan_Ernest 7 лет назад

    I'm new player in TitanFall2 and I'm in love with TONE. Omg can't even express how much I'm into this mech. Range, weapon, abilities. Shieeet.

  • @TurboJLo
    @TurboJLo 8 лет назад

    Finally someone else mentions ION as OP. Been saying this for a while now.
    Also agree so much on smart pistol and devotion comments.
    Feel like the only thing you missed on phase shift is the poor tick rate/netcode allowing so many deaths AFTER I've shifted and my screen is black & white in the upside down. I feel like for that reason it's A not S. And I am playing on on a 30-50 ping in match.

  • @frankbomb4668
    @frankbomb4668 8 лет назад +1

    I love phase shift because it reminds me of stranger thing(you know... going into different realities)and the character model is my favorite.

  • @cornboy1893
    @cornboy1893 7 лет назад

    The thing about phase shift is sometimes you can't find the people you were escaping from

  • @Shlippi
    @Shlippi 8 лет назад

    The EPG is my favorite weapon in the game so far. It is a one shot if you can lead your shots, a two shot, if you hit near their feet, and it makes a pretty decent anti-titan weapon. It's also really fun to use :)

  • @ivanvzm
    @ivanvzm 8 лет назад

    Frothy, have you ever been bamboozled? Tell us your story, this is a safe space...

  • @MrMelkor98
    @MrMelkor98 8 лет назад +1

    What do you think about going back to concepts of Titanfall 1 in some aspects?
    About Sonar-Blade: It could be like in Titanfall 1s Sonar-Pulse, Highlighting enemies periodically, leaving their obnoxious orange images behind. It also works only for you, not your entire team. It would still give you Wallhacks but at a cost.
    About Amped Weapons: They could add neat effects to your weapons, like they did in Titanfall 1, instead of just increasing their damage. I remembered I had a lot of fun with the explosive Kraber or the Sonar-Longbow.

    • @MrMelkor98
      @MrMelkor98 8 лет назад

      Also the existence of Smaprtpistol, the broken Melee and the fucking dot disappearing on the CAR7R-97/R-201 is annoying as hell.

  • @bl00dix82
    @bl00dix82 7 лет назад

    The devs said to prevent being salty towards the abilities we just make them all Op

  • @dipensor
    @dipensor 7 лет назад

    okay because frothy dont upload as much as benchy/gamsager/iniquity and other really good TF2 players, I forgot how much of a beast he is

  • @Nagstersept109868
    @Nagstersept109868 8 лет назад +1

    I 100% agree with you about tacticals. Break pulse blade into 2 tacticals. 1 with just a single, one time ping on your radar over the current range of pulse blade. 2 being the pulse blade now but a much much smaller radius, like cover a single doorway or room and not an entire lane and a half on attrition maps. Right now pulse is idiotic. With phase I have no idea why it gets 2 charges. It's good enough already to get out of any problem but 2 charges being used back to back is very annoying. A wall is one of those things in games where when you see it you just leave the area. Even if there isn't an enemy behind I'll just walk away from a lane or flank route if I see one.
    These abilities are way too strong especially considering how often you can use them. With pre nerf hemlock with tactical I could have games where I had wall hacks on the enemy for like 85% of the match that I wasn't in my Titan.

  • @RockyLXXXVIII
    @RockyLXXXVIII 7 лет назад

    I think battery backup is s tier, if you prefer titan gameplay over pilot gameplay I highly recommend battery backup. You can either use it to get 20% core build time and an over sheild on your titan, also gives you back half a health bar if you got hit upon entering, combined with overcore your first core starts at 50% build time; or you can give another player said benefits while giving yourself 30% build time to your own titan, either way it's helping your titan by either getting it faster or making it a bit beefier while giving you get your core faster

  • @DaCreepNextDoor
    @DaCreepNextDoor 8 лет назад

    I haven't played tf2 in a while due to various reasons. But I find it comical that people are just recently finding out how good the grappling hook is. I used it in the tech test because I thought it looked cool and I fell in love immediately with the physics involved in it

  • @ezraklinghoffer8957
    @ezraklinghoffer8957 8 лет назад +4

    B-b-but Frothy, I care about the RE-45.
    Thanks for acknowledging the glory of grapple, though.

    • @jacobraposo730
      @jacobraposo730 7 лет назад

      Ezra Klinghoffer REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-45

  • @matthewbellows7929
    @matthewbellows7929 8 лет назад

    jeez frothy you are madly talented at this game, recently ive just been getting the weapons to g2.0 just to use them and then figure out what ones i like but i definitely felt how bad the volt got while the r-97 is pretty god like, now i'm on ps4 so obviously my play style is definitly different then yours, i just felt like the flatline, for me, was a lot easier to use then the R201 or the G2.
    nice video!

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  7 лет назад

      +Matthew Bellows thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you are having success with the flatline. The general consensus that I'm getting is that controller players enjoy that weapon far more than PC players. If it works for you, use it 👍

  • @MechanicReeper
    @MechanicReeper 8 лет назад

    I choose the mastiff all the time in live fire and wreck, sometimes it reaches just a bit farther than Eva-8

  • @SnakeSound222
    @SnakeSound222 7 лет назад

    Dude, during the campaign, I avoided the R-97 and always picked up the L-STAR. I thought the R-97 was crap and the L-STAR was a great gun. I laughed a bit when I found out that the R-97 was S tier and the L-STAR wasn't as good as I thought it was.

  • @Tweety-el1st
    @Tweety-el1st 8 лет назад

    DAMN IT, I said I wasn't going to watch because I have homework, 35 minutes later here I am, lol great review though!

  • @aw7245
    @aw7245 7 лет назад

    How to fix smart pistol:
    1) Remove from boost and make it a secondary
    2) Make it only lock on to grunts and other ai, manual aim required for pilots.
    Honestly it's a really fun ai farming tool.

  • @Blazon94
    @Blazon94 7 лет назад

    Love this dude, keep em coming.

  • @kazumikota470
    @kazumikota470 7 лет назад

    *when the mastiff is my primary weapon and gets 27 pilot kills on attrition and gets first place with many people who have regen* Frothy: F-Class. We have the Eva-8. Me: *TRIGGERED*

  • @CreepYoutube
    @CreepYoutube 8 лет назад

    @FrothyOmen Love that Old Tier List link, works wonders

  • @HaplessGoblinProductions
    @HaplessGoblinProductions 7 лет назад

    I found the best way to counter phase shift is to use phase shift. If you and and enemy pilot shift closely around the same time you can melee an enemy pilot if your fast enough. It's rare but affective

  • @MuttMarc
    @MuttMarc 7 лет назад

    'L-Star is bad', 'Scorch sucks', the longbow is ranked higher than the kaber; RRRRREEEEEEEE

  • @matthewhase150
    @matthewhase150 7 лет назад

    Oh, so that lack of aim in the air with my R-201 wasn't me

  • @MojoMicah
    @MojoMicah 7 лет назад

    am I they only console player that was freaked out when he bunny hopped away from a titan while accurately firing a charge rifle, all doing it moving backwards?

  • @steveheist6426
    @steveheist6426 7 лет назад

    I'm on console, so it may not be entirely viable, but I find a decent counterplay to A-Wall is to throw a frag over the wall and then kill them when they leave their bubble to avoid the 'nade.

  • @saamkapadia
    @saamkapadia 8 лет назад +1

    Frothy the reason i really like you is that your not one of those ppl who just think and say stuff like oh i play TF2 on this and that gun is better than on that no you ask ppl on console and ask how they feel about it! i play TF2 on Xbox and even though i sometimes dont agree with stuff you say about the guns and stuff you still have really helped me to become a much better player. now a days i often come 1st on my team and often 1st or 2nd in the match! often with 15 to 20 kills and 2 to 4 titan kills and 4 to 6 deaths on attrition. you are awesome bro keep up the excellent vids!

    • @saamkapadia
      @saamkapadia 8 лет назад

      btw CAR, ALTERNATOR and R201 is Life!

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  8 лет назад +2

      Woohoo! I'm happy to hear I've been such a positive influence on your play. Much appreciated.

  • @iggydip
    @iggydip 2 года назад +1

    How I long for the days when TF2 actually worked. It’s just an absolute mess now and Respawn don’t seem to be bothered about sorting it.
    Northstar Client on PC have really got it sussed thanks to bobthebob. I just wish someone would consider us console players and give us diehard fans a game we can play again.

  • @TofuRabbit
    @TofuRabbit 8 лет назад

    The thing that bothers me about the Mastiff is the crouch animation/stance, because it makes bunny hopping look super awkward to me. Kindof a shame since the gun is legitimately fun to use IMO, however I do hope Respawns gives us another shotgun in a future update cause the choice right now is between the Eva and the Mastiff and, well, you know..........

  • @martinhubinette2254
    @martinhubinette2254 8 лет назад

    R 97 is just left alone because it does have a wider hipfire indicator, car and R-201 has less wide ones, not a lot of people put a dot in the center of their screen, it also has a more violent recoil due to Rof. So people think it has a higher skill floor. And it is not suited for the slower game on console meaning it does not get complaints from them. Ease of use and feel is a big thing for people complaining.

  • @temp_name_change_later
    @temp_name_change_later 7 лет назад

    You forgot the factions tier list, so here it is:
    F-tier: No one
    C-tier: ARES Division
    B-tier: Marauder Corps, Vinson Dynamics
    A-tier: Apex Predators, 6-4
    S-tier: Angel City ACEs

  • @ioanjordan5122
    @ioanjordan5122 7 лет назад

    Tip for my console brothers and sisters; map the right trigger to right bumper. Makes everything so much easier

  • @Anonymous27x
    @Anonymous27x 4 года назад

    With Steam sale and TF 2 on Steam now, we need an updated tier list like this please and thank you :)

  • @turntyle
    @turntyle 8 лет назад

    frothy makes me feel bad for being a smart pistol meme

  • @saggy3200
    @saggy3200 8 лет назад

    Wingman Elite combo-ed with lightning grenades is god tier. Slows them so you don't need to lead your target with the bullet time, does damage to enable a one tap, and they can hardly counter you with slow reticle movement. I promise I've wiped teams on Livefire with this.

  • @0RecklessAbandon0
    @0RecklessAbandon0 8 лет назад

    The Double-Take is 100% my jam, currently mine is G3 or G4 and is easily my highest level gun.

  • @Katurodrake
    @Katurodrake 7 лет назад +1

    This is personal opinion.
    The Smart Pistol is in a weird spot to me. Because it does something completely different from every other weapon in the game, and thus earns it's controversy. I get it Frothy Omen, you played Titanfall 1, and in that game Smart Pistol users were likely the bane of online play. Especially because it could be used via Amp Card, and Enhanced Lock on cutting down that TTK by a good amount. It has it's bad omens because the player can silently place locks without single warning to the victim.
    Since then it's been set to a Boost with a very limited ammo pool and gives players warning when they are being targeted. Which I would all a good series of nerfs.
    In some people's eyes this thing should just die and never be seen again despite this, and I would be in the pool of it should be nerfed if it weren't a temporary boost of the default pistol. The default pistol does provide advantages, but it can be less offensive in advantages or TTK compared to others because it may as well be an advantage made worth while.
    Issues: Over the internet, the Smart Pistol is effected by that users latency to the server. Bad ping, means the indicator that you see pops up later, and then it feels like they prettymuch instakill you without you having a chance to react at all. And let's be real, no amount of net code will fix that, that is inherent lag to the server, and bad lag will never be fixed.
    Fix proposal: Since it's never going away, you can tell the devs like the inclusion of this design, so IF it were to be made a primary weapon, I'd offer it on the condition of one nerf. Make the Smart Pistol's lock on time the Suppressed version's lock on time from the first Titanfall. Because then it gives that important factor of being able to react to it. Give more of a trade to it's effectiveness of being able to out maneuver your opponent's shots while focusing those locks. It doesn't have to be that long, but if anything, the lock on time just needs to be a tad longer is what I'm saying.

  • @ethanvuong4331
    @ethanvuong4331 8 лет назад

    Just an analysis of the Tacticals part of the video. I think one of the biggest problems is the existence of Tactikill.

  • @Oxxfan
    @Oxxfan 7 лет назад

    im glad you gave us a warning that this is just your oppinion. i disagree with everything here, but then again, thats just my oppinion. (no hate or anything. just really glad you told beforehand so people wouldnt explode in hate) love your vids btw!