Hikaru Plays 5D Chess For The First Time
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
- Hikaru tries to learn some 5D chess - watches a video then plays some.
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0:00 Intro
0:20 Tutorial Video
8:07 First Puzzles
21:34 First Human Game
#gmhikaru #chess #5dchess 
Игры
PogChamps 3: 5D Chess edition
"So here xQc was checkmated in 6 different dimensions"
"In 6 moves"
....xQc was scholar's mated across time. We go a gain, we go a gain!
SaltedLightly 6 MOVES 6 DIMENSIONS 6 CONSOLES 6 CATS 6 DOGS 6 MONITORS
Quelqun x Its AGANE you schnoze
@@quelqunx7470 Throbbers mate
Hikaru: The devs haven't updated chess in 500 years
The Devs:
you think chess game is in early access ? LMAO
@@Nature08405 there are plenty of fully released games that still get regular updates
They have already been checkmated so they move to another dimension.
Didn't you hear about the sequel?
It was actually updated like 500 years ago
“I understand what checkmate is” - a Grandmaster, 2020
Hahaha! That is a good one!
Yeah, except he clearly doesn't. Not in this game. Which is perfectly logical, since he refuses to spend more than 5 seconds on the rules.
@@MichalMarsalek The rules are written in a really shit way
@@Beblue1337 true.
Super Grandmaster*
Hikaru finally understands what it's like for all of us to play 2D chess
3D
@@gimi_jilca9152 2D
@@oceanfan7880 u got a 2D brain bro
@@Tizzer169 height of the pawns doesnt matter so he is actually right, look at the online chess - always 2D, classic chess are 3D only because its impossible to create truly 2D object
@@Tizzer169 the mechanics only require 2 dimensions bro
The tutorial guy explaining how the knight moves was hilarious LMAO
“The knight- of course- moves two squares in one direction, and one square in another direction, but it just so happens, that that direction, can also be into the past.”
That guy is Aliensrock
He has a bunch of crazy videos playing a ton of games, and he covered this one a while ago
If I remember the next video he said "ok so like i definitely totally on purpose overcomplicated my explanation of the game last video,"
That's my favorite RUclipsr Aliensrock and I do agree that he definitely overcomplicated the explanation
@@nutmeggaming11261 oh shit I know aliensrock didn’t recognize him
@@nutmeggaming11261 Yeah, for people that love puzzle games should know him
Hikaru: "I got it"
Narrator: "He didn't"
His name is Tyler, his YT channel is Aliensrock
@@Davis... yes
Probably the only funny Comment on here everyone else thinks they know what they talking about and making dumbass jokes
Hikaru: “oh I got it the knight doesn’t move in an L it moves up two or back two.”
Narrator: “It did not”
@@saltedsword8852 i mean the actual explanation isn't far from that.
Chess already had 2 axes, these were Vertically and Horizontally. This games adds two new axes: Past and Timelines. And unlike regular chess, these are called Dimensions
To know how every piece moves (exept pawns, they are a bit different) you just gotta see their regular chess movement and translate it into dimensions.
So in regular Chess, the knight moves one space in one dimension (vertically or horizontally) and then 2 in the other one, so if you did one vertically, the other two were horizontally. It can also be said backwards: they move two spaces in one dimension and then one in the other one.
But in 5D chess you can use anyone of the new dimension instead of the two old ones, how so? Like this:
Instead of moving one space horizontally you can move one turn back in time and once you're there, move two spaces in another dimension, might this be horizontally or vertically. You can also move two turns back in time and then move one step in one of the old two dimensions. Or instead, you can move "one step" into an adjacent timeline and then two spaces into another dimension. So hikaru was kind of right, he just didn't know that you could also move 2 turns back in time and then one space
I love that he's so good at chess that he wins even without understanding the rules just by freaking checking everything everywhere completely ignoring time movements.
"Did I win? Did I win? Oh ok so I win" 😆
dude that AI is like shit even me who never played 2D chess before could win the bot
@@user-mi1vr9uc5w lmaooooooooooooooooo
@@user-mi1vr9uc5w because it hasn't learned too much time travel at that point
That’s me at card games. I don’t understand the rules and win by dumb luck or trying everything.
I absolutely love how it’s called 5D chess, but it takes him forever to realize that time is one of the dimensions
I think time is two of the dimensions. Right? Forward/backward, left/right, futureward/pastward, and up/down through branches? Idk that only counts four dimensions so idek
@@NoName-lu5tg Erm no. We live in a 3 + 1 dimensional world (as far as we can observe) three spacial dimensions of length, width, and height, plus the temporal dimension, aka time
@@HimitsuYami so you can say something like :
I’m in x: 58, y:32, z (like on the ground, below it, or floating): 0, at 10:30am ?
So what’s the 5th dimension?
@@Pokarface7 yes! We use longitude and latitude coordinates and depending on who you ask, either Y or Z is your height. I'm not certain but I would imagine 0 is sea level so if you're on a mountain for instance you could have a high Y/Z value without floating. And then you'd usually be referring to the past if you're mentioning the time like that but you could say for example you were at coordinates 150, 10, 100 at 20:00 UTC (or whatever time zone) and that gives someone a very precise location for you on the map and the time you were there
As for the fifth dimension, if time travel were possible and resulted in split time lines, that would be a fifth dimension. But the reason the game only has 4 dimensions is because the chess board itself is 2D.
@@HimitsuYami ah! Okay. So the 5th dimension is a parallel dimension.
Me: “In what universe is this checkmate?”
5d chess: “in all of them that is the point”
Rip spelling
Rip spelling
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@@BFDI_Leaf whats wrong with my spelling
@@Isaac-ex8yk big bang theory?
Hikaru against Magnus tomorrow: "but I checked your king two moves in the past dude!!"
Yee
6d chess: i checkmated you yesterday
@@sacchinram9286 7d chess is more like "I checkmated in 10 parallel dimensions beyond the inception of time itself"
Lan sen sabo pasa ile erasmusda değil miydin
8d chess: I checked you 10 years ago Magnus, I win.
This is the first and only time I will ever be able to watch a GM play chess and miss a mate in 1 when I can see it.
AnimadisticorKontimakaro
Honestly... I _don't _*_wanna_* same but yeah, I'm feelin' that, lol.
Hikaru when his opponent has two queens: All good, seems legit.
Hikaru when his oppponent has three knights: WHAT?!?!?!
He understood that there would be time travel, but he thought the knight would timetravel in an L shape and was confused that it instead went 2 and then time traveled
not once in my life would i ever think it would be painful to watch a grandmaster play chess.
Lol
For real. This hurts so much.
Took 30 minutes for him to understand the time aspect hahah
@@Andrewkosche i mean they explained it terribly
Well to be fair, I couldn't even understand the tutorial. Feel genuinely like a jackass
Take a shot every time he says "I got it" and actually doesn't
Tutorial on how to get induced into coma by alcohol
U want me to die bro ?
I try this and just wake up to find that im in heaven now
@dominic amoe I don't think it is his intelligence, but his stuborness and lack of patience was really frustrating in this video.
Finished the video and am officially tipsy. Officially.
It’s incredible to me that he managed to not understand the time/multiverse mechanics of the game at all, but because he’s just so good at chess he still does well haha
I’d like to see a professional chess player and a physicist play 5d chess against each other.
The chess player would have a aneurysm trying to understand how the new 3 dimensions work while the Physicist would curb stomp the chess player, assuming they'd played it before.
@@cookiecraze1310 Anyone who plays and understands the game would have an advantage, being a physicist is literally 0 advantage in this game.
@@GODSPEE. my played it before, I meant played chess, the basic game, before.
@@cookiecraze1310 Then there would be 0 advantage for the physicist and more advantage for the player who has played basic chess before. The videogame's rules have 0 basis in anything physicists do, which is my point
@@GODSPEE.,
The physicist might have a better starting point for building an intuition for the game due to their work in counterintuitive fields of mathematics. That's a stretch though, so I generally agree the chess player most likely would have a net advantage.
I started watching this and was totally confused, like Hikaru. Then I started understanding, and rewatched the start, laughing at the past Hikaru‘s confusion. Checkmate.
5DHead
Thats what they call a pro gamer move
So you went back in time to checkmate Hikaru.
5 head shit right there
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha omg thats hilarious
tomorrow.
Outstanding Move
"That's not an L shape!"
Fool, you think in such three dimensional terms
he's thinking in 2d, it's not even an L in 3D chess.
@@stm7810 it’s 3D since the horse jumps
@@crazebanana6432 whilst the move is called a jump, it's just as easily a teleport or phase.
@@stm7810 damn I never knew the flash was a horse
@@crazebanana6432 The more you know! ⭐
I really REALLY wish i was there with him so i could actually explain whats going on
he obviously doesn't care
Can u explain here please?
@@Matthew9203 its a bit complicated, but the main concept is that pieces on the present board can move back in time, but pieces in the past cannot move. Their moves are set in stone. So, if you get your rook in a position where it can go to the past to take the king, and no pieces can be moved to stop it in the present, thats checkmate
@@destruct0503 ye but how do some pieces move in ways they normally can’t in chess? Like the knight was moving not in an L shape when it went back in time, and the bishop moved horizontally back in time… may be because he didn’t show the different 3d / 5d angle but still seems weird
@@Matthew9203 its impossible to explain that in a comment, so you should probably watch some RUclips tutorial on 5d chess
AI: pulling terminator shit. sending pieces into the past to assassinate him by creating different timelines, dimensions and stuff
Hikaru: I have no idea what you are doing over there but I'm going to mate you on as many boards as you wish me to.
A GM in one dimension might be a XQC in another Dimension
The literal opposite of a gm is an XQC
Why does that guy get so much attention?
@@buttermyeggrolllington6173 all because jesus defeated him in 6 moves. GM Hikaru was xqc's coach.
@@buttermyeggrolllington6173 cuz he funny
@@sagitswag1785 i dont see it. Seems kinda douchy
hikaru beating magnus, has lunch, streams 5d chess. 100% savage.
Magnus will still win.
You are missing the part where he travelled around his country to the place where he's staying, went on a television show
it's like training you know? obviously 5D chess is harder than normal chess. its just like you add weight to your lift.
Complete Mad Lad
What a 5Head Warlord!
Watching Hikaru struggle with this concept when I got it in about 4 seconds made me feel like a genius.
Hikaru: "I think I understand now"
Morgan Freeman: "He did not in fact, understand"
Hikaru, playing this game:
"I don't understand why that happened... I don't need to read the tutorial, I think I got it"
Hikaru halfway through a single match: "no, this is too much"
- Every gamer who only knows the basics:
im really furious watching this VOD 😭
he doesnt even read how the pieces moves
he dont even see the possible moves he can make with a piece 💀
In all fairness. The tuteral makes no fucken sense
When you look away from the board for 2 minutes in math class and then try and figure out wtf is going on.
ikr
Literally me LMAO
Easy. Go two hours into the past, steal his documents for the class, learn them and therefore get the knowledge in the original timeline to score a straight A in the test of the future.
Hahaha
12:19 "I understand what checkmate is" without actually reading nor understanding what checkmate is in 5D chess is basically the TLDR for the whole video.
4:34 the king in the present cannot change the position of the king in the past
7:02 the knight moves 2 up and 1 into the past
That seems too powerful.
@@CramcrumBrewbringer it’s actually perfectly balanced
“I understand that the past can’t be changed”
Literally 2 fucking seconds later
“But the past king can still move one forward”
Moving the piece back caused him to run through a new time line. That's what the present line is meant to show.
@@chasecollins3263 hold on man wtf? I’m so confused
@@Arizona9001 It’s been to long man, I refuse to re-understand what I learned 10 months ago.
@@chasecollins3263 aight I’ll follow you, my brain hurts.
@@Arizona9001 when you go back to the past you create a whole new reality, your reality doesnt change, but the new reality has changed
"Tutorial Video" lmao
You're a good guy, y'know that?
oh I remember you btd person
@@asdkadasjf lol hell never live his fame down
Hi dad
Collab when
This is how Chat GTP plays chess, in 5 dimensions. That is how it is able to teleport pieces from the past and future to where it wants them, also how it can change the color of pieces...
It made me soooo happy to see Hikaru being a human being when it comes to something chess related.
Hes not a super human vampire guys! Lmaooo
He’s really good a chess but seems kinda slow when it comes to learning new things.
This is like watching your grandma try to send an email.
So. Excruciatingly. Painful.
Except I don’t know what the fuck is going on either
I wouldn’t have gotten as far as he did tbf, this kind of game is stupid and unnecessary.
@@rohtvak3 that's the point of it, to be stupid, unnecessary, and convoluted, so that you have to actually think about what you're doing and, therefore, train yourself for when thinking about what you're doing is actually gonna be useful. In a weird way, 5D chess in an effective way to train your mindset to play actual chess.
@@rohtvak3 What is wrong with complex kind of games? It was quite fun, if buggy, once you got the hang on it.
Also, games are for entertainment. So either they are all unnecessary or none are.
"I got a good understanding of it now" 5 seconds later "wait why are there 3 rooks"
HIkaru: Yeah I get it now, yeah I understand it *Does not understand it*
Also Hikaru: So good at chess he still wins despite not understanding
So basically 5D chess is just a regular chess game where you can move pieces in the past to create a new timeline and/or move pieces across timelines in its respective "present" time. In other words your basically playing multiple chess games simultaneously and you have make sure the king(s) are trapped in every single one.
You only need to checkmate one king
Ahh so the king is stuck in all times
No. The game has pieces that can move in a 4th dimension axis as well, using non-euclidean angles. Just go look at the Unicorn piece and Knight piece, and Dragon piece, etc on the wiki.
@@TheOnlyGhxst nothing about this game is non Euclidean
So 1 player bug house kinda
Summary: he doesnt understand the game
Understoodn't, but in fact still wins accidentally...
He understand tho
In 5D universe when 5D Hikaru try to understand we, 3D creature (also 3D chess)
@Slime Boi it works literally the same just with 3 more dimensions every other rule stays
5D chess is crap honestly
@Slime Boi
Therefore quantum chess shouldn't be called chess either.
Or do you actually agree with that?
You also have yet to state their "misunderstanding".
12:50 "the rules seem pretty straight forward..."
But he didn't read the most important part, which is how pieces move.
He read the first sentences of the sections, which were just reminders of normal chess rules, then didn't bother to read past them. That was painful to watch.
exactly, the pieces atacks the past diferently to how they move on the present T_T
Well but what does strsight foward mean? In time or in space, or in both?
@@alex2005z straight forward not in time, in space, but in the sarcastic sense... He said "rules seem straight forward" but didn't even read them, let alone understand them.
@@quelqunx7470 I think he made a joke.
The cycle of life:
-i don’t understand
-i just don’t understand
-wait
-ohhhh
-W A I T
-i don’t understand
I'm too sober for this.
i'm high and it still doesn't help
“I’m trying to checkmate the king.”
-Hikaru 2020
*GRANDMASTER Hikaru 2020
I like how Hikaru doesn't even read the rules and thinks that he understands it lol
it’s called content, seeing Hikaru getting confused by this is funny and interesting to me
@@togumicai no, it's frustrating
Charles it portrays his blinded arrogance more than anything lol
@@Fanchen you sure sont like bearded chess man
@@Patryk-id9vs it's more that he complains a lot even though he blatantly miss stuff.
Not my humour I guess.
"I think I have a pretty good understanding of how this game works"
"Wait but how does he have an extra knight"
Hikaru playing 5D Chess: "Chat I don't get it"
Hikaru looking at memes on his subreddit: "Chat I don't get it"
Conclusion: 5D Chess is just one big meme
"rules seem pretty straight forward" you didn't even read them
5head moment
to me from a nonlinear perspective they seem more like a ball of wibbly wobbly timy whimey stuff
He read them in the future
@@Cretan1000 LMAO
Your profile picture works perfectly with your comment.
I love how Hikaru thinks he understands it completely and then realizes that he didn't several times.
So.. now we shouldn't know each other
@@soulburner8095 what
@@000PontusLoeksFan000 I asked myself the same Question, i mean, why did i wrote a comment like that? XD
@@soulburner8095 😂😂👍🏽
I actually did something chess related faster than Hikaru (that's not something bad like losing)! (I understood how it worked better than he did at first)
No kiddo, it's just stupid game design
@@con1q2w dont understand so u blame the game lol
@@phantasy8921 I'm making a comment on the game building, work on your reading comprehension and try again.
@@con1q2w game is designed well u just don't like hard games
@@cameronnekerekian1712 You gotta admit the rules were explained pretty badly tho
Scientists getting confused about how 4d can exist and we are playing 5d chess
Isn't it royal life
actually scientists are pretty convinced that there are up to 10, maybe 11 dimensions in our universe. Look up string and M-theory.
@@strawberry-rl6oy t h e o r y
@@masyali1 theory in science doesn't mean what theory means in pop culture. A theory in science is an explanation for a phenomenon that is well supported by existing facts, such as atomic theory and the theory of evolution.
it doesn't mean, 'hmmm, this could possibly exist, who knows lmao', it means this is, till now, the best possible explanation we have.
plus it's well established that the fourth dimension we exist in is time.
"Now I've got it!"
Narrator: "He didn't have it."
The most frustrating part is that I know he could have easily gotten it, if he took the time to actually figure it out. But he was too impatient to do that and kept ignoring what was going on instead of slowing down a second to reason it out.
exactly. Not only that, but he completely ignored the parallel view and history view buttons, and when he clicked them and saw how the pieces could move between dimensions and time, he completely ignored it and just quickly wrote it off as a missclick. I mainly blame it on his pride in chess. Like he will never accept losing in something that looks like chess. Also he's streaming, so it's harder for him to concentrate on actually learning something.
@@theteddychannel8529 people (some chess players/fans) in the past have hated him due to his ego, and he’s definitely got better about it, but he’s still a little big headed, especially about knowing chess things
@@theteddychannel8529 Why would he want to learn it? There is no reward in learning it by itself. It's for his career, viewers and perhaps to promote chess itself. Concentration is usually bad content
@@theteddychannel8529 I feel the explanation is ass. I think I understand that into the past is counted as moving one space so if I imagine it was the knight moving two spaces over and maybe “down” for going into the past one square then it is an L shape but the tutorial didn’t break it down like that or show that. It’s showing some confusing curved line and just stating what happened. I’m not even sure I’m right in my understanding but I feel like part of it is that he understands chess working a certain way and has since he was a child, he is older which means learning new things will be more difficult, and then the explanation is not great or stepwise enough.
I also don’t think chat is helping. They’re ALWAYS saying contradictory and wrong shit in every situation.
"I got it" he said, still playing 2D Chess
This video was actually a huge confidence boost for me because if the world's top 18 chess player can make mistakes I would see 4 dimensions ago then maybe we aren't objectively superior or inferior, we just succeed in different areas
it's interesting how he can win vs hardest AI in the game without even understanding the rules
ok, lets now play chess in the quantum realm
Imagine trying to fork a rook and your horse quantum tunnels into the front of the rook itself 💀
What doesn't let Hikaru understand this game is his lack of patience.
And, no offence to him, but also a lack of either attention or intelligence (or both). Things that were clear to literally everyone (e.g. that you can move back in time, that knights still move 2 in one dimension and 1 in another, that you can't change the past, etc), he still somehow managed to miss. This is not the first time this happens, either - he is VERY slow to get things in general. Surprising but true.
Max Khovanski shut up
@@joshuasello3618 Any counter-arguments?
@@maxkho00 Both points you mentioned are just temporary consequences of lacking patience while doing something. If you don't have enough patience to try to understand the game properly, people are gonna think you're dumb or that you don't pay any attention at all. I think Hikaru behaves that way because he is too used to playing a game already knowing everything about it. He learned almost everything about chess while young and played for too many years the same game already knowing everything about it. He is getting used to the process of learning new games. The same thing happens with professional players that have spent all of their lives playing the same game.
@@maxkho00 In 2015, he was the #2 chess player in the world behind only Carlsen. By now he has slipped into the totally pathetic ranking of 18th. Maybe pump the brakes on this bullshit about attention and intelligence. It's untrue and makes you sound like an ass.
I thought i didn't understand 5d chess then I re-watched this video in my past and realized that my future self actually already figured this game out in my near past's future. So now all I have to do to understand this game is wait for my past's future to catch up with my current future and I actually already understand this game in my near futures's past. Any questions? Just ask my past self's future me. Got it?
I understand it because i actually watched the video
I just visited the parallel timeline where my future self had already gone back, and I just watched the two other me's play.
But your past’s future is your present, and if you don’t do anything in your present you’ll affect your future
This was fun to read
Past self's future me, aka yesterday's tomorrow
I love 5D chess.
You can check mate, but still loose in the other timelines
I love how the second time he seemed to be so confident on why he checkmated but actually was completely wrong
What he lacks in understanding he makes up in confidence. 😂
or not💀
exactly hqhahahaga "i have a pretty good grasp of this now" - proceeds to have no clue what he's doing
The reason the bishop "changes color" when it moves to an alternate timeline boils down to the fundamentals of how bishops move. A bishop can move along any 2 axis' simultaneously by an equal amount. In normal chess, those 2 axis' have to be the X and Y axis'. In this game, we have 2 additional axis' to move our pieces along. The "time axis" and the "alternate timeline axis". The bishop can move along any combination of 2 axis' simultaneously out of the 4 available. This means the bishop can move 1 square along the Y axis and move 1 timeline over at the same time. This causes a light squared bishop to become a dark square bishop and vice versa. If you moved a bishop 2 timelines over or 2 (or any even number) turns into the past, it would land on the same color square it started on.
The knight can move 2 squares over for similar reasons. It normally moves 2 squares on 1 axis and 1 square along the other axis. Now "the other axis" is a choice of 3 other axis'. You can move 2 squares on the Y axis and 1 turn along the time axis or 1 timeline over. You can also move 1 square along the Y axis and 2 turns backwards or 2 timelines over. You can even have the knight stay on the same square, but move 2 turns into the past and 1 timeline over or 2 timelines over and 1 turn into the past.
From what I have seen in this video, everything Hikaru failed to understand boils down to the idea of treating these 2 additional axis' as directions that a piece can move.
what
Lol, games convoluted for the sake of being convoluted, I wouldn’t worry too much about not understanding the reasoning behind why thing happened
My man read out his entire history book in the comments
So basically; in 5D chess, you can move in horizontal ("x" axis), vertical ("y" axis), diagonal ("z" axis, representing volume), across any point in time as long as it exists and you can percieve/move to it ("time"/"time perception" axis) and legally undo the course of the game so that you can move a piece/pawn(?) in a valid place of an earlier course of said game in order to move (sorry for the redundance), attack and even check in said earlier course ("alternate timeline" axis). And even after all this i'm sure i'm getting something wrong.
Time variant is so complicated and chaotic that i like it.
Hikaru doesnt understand dimensions
I really hope he will revisit this sometime. This is some super mind warping gameplay, I would love to watch a tournament of this!
This seems so fun. You could legit have a board with like 7knights. Also this game combines back to the future time travel with dimension hopping. This is so coool
For anyone wondering WTF was going on here, I wrote a "little" tutorial for all you need to know about this game.
First, forget that pieces move in specific shapes, and focus on how many steps can they move in specific directions (directions = dimentions)
So the 5 dimentions here are:
- Files (x axis on single board),
- Ranks (y axis on single board),
- Time (z axis in same universe, aka same line of the original board (achor plane)),
- Alternate universe (alpha axis that gets created when you go back in time and change the past),
- Traveling between universes (beta axis where you move between universes, aka between the rows of boards :D)
You can navigate between these 5 dimentions, while also adhering to how the pieces move. Easiest example is the rook. The rook can move infinitely, but solely in 1 direction (dimention). So it can move max 8 squares in the x axis (files), y axis (ranks), and can also move in the z axis in a straight line an infinite amount of boards back, meaning if you move in time, you can only move to the same sqaure you are currently on, and it can also move to the same square it's currently on, on the remaining alpha and beta axis.
If you click the parallell view, you can see it visualised in 3D, so it might be easier to see this behaviour.
The knight also adheres to the rules you were taught when you were a kid. The knight moves 2 squares in one direction and 1 square in ANOTHER direction. Notice I didn't say up a file or sideways in a rank. The reason I didn't say files or ranks, because in 5D, you are no longer limited to 2 dimentions (2 dimentions being files and ranks). Time is also a direction here, and remember, time is one row of boards next to eachother. So the statement "knights move in an L shape" still holds, you just can't see it, if you only visualise 2 dimentions. This is why parallell view is in the game, because you need to have at least 3 dimentions, to visualise 5 dimentions worth of data.
If Hikaru understood what time meant in this, he would have enjoyed it so much more, hopefully he will watch the proper video of aliensrock explaining that the pieces move just as they do in 2D chess that everyone knows... :)
I hope this gets many likes. It is exactly what Hikaru needs to read before playing again
I think you have your dimensions wrong. The alpha axis you defined is not really another dimension. It's just the z axis on a different timeline. The makers of this game define our third dimension as one of the dimensions, which is not used. In reality this is actually 4D chess.
WAYTOODANK
I've deleted my comments too. I suggest you delete this thread entirely because it is misleading to people. Also, next time, please listen to what other people have to say instead of acting like a smartass know-it-all
@@KaushtavAtri006 It doesn't mislead anybody, it states the truth. But, then, why do you think, this is called 5D chess? Let me answer that for you: Because it has 5 dimentions. They only thought that it would be better to do a useful lie to people, who would fail to understand what the 5 dimentions are, (like you), because the alpha dimention has no particular gameplay role here, for what you stated before, it's parallell to the other timelines. However, if you knew math, you would know, that for 2 supposedly different dimentions, it's a necessary, but not satisfactory requirement to be parallell with eachother, to be the same. This is 7th grade elementary school lesson. I suppose in India schools don't really exist, so.... you know... I understand why you are a little bit.... dim :)
And I listened to you, you didn't listen to me, and you were the "know it all" guy.
But, please, delete your comments, because google algorithm I dunno when will take effect, if at all, having reported your comments. After that, I will delete this too.
And, for the love of God, stop spreading lies. :)
This literally stresses me out in so many dimensions, except the one where I decide not to watch the video.
Dimensions are different from timelines. There is no dimension where you did not watch this video, but there is a timeline that you did not
I think the first puzzle works because the rook is is defended by the rook in the past and the king move out of the corner blocks that spot, this cuts off all the squares
no, because the king in the past can't move
The rook can move as far as it wants in one dimension. It can be up or down, through different timelines or, in the case of that puzzle, through time. The king was once on that square in the past, and thus when the rook moves there, on the rook's next turn it can move through the past to capture the king. The king in the present, the only piece that is allowed to move, can't capture that rook in the present to prevent this, and do it is checkmate
What an amazing game. I hope this becomes really big one day. This really tests the human limit.
"I got it"
Narrator: He did not get it
This was painful to watch but at least I can confidently say I have a higher grasp on something chess-related than Hikaru. Would love to see aliensrock tutor him lol.
Funny thing is, I watched his video, and as a result got the grasp of this game. So I feel extra good that I understand it better than him
@@agfd5659 Same. It's basically chess but with time travel.
@@usmansiddiqui1384 yeah and multiverse
Man there's something so satisfying about watching an incredible chess player struggle to understand the most basic of concepts that take about 2 minutes to learn
i love how how hikaru tried to use ceiling stockfish while playing 5d chess.
Aliensrock actually made a new proper tutorial lol
Get this comment some likes cuz that is really the video people should be watching. This video is just confusing and frustrating because hikaru just understandably doesn't understand (even though he thinks he does)
@@arnoudh6203 The game is very easy to understand, honestly. It's not easy to play and be good, but if you understand how the pieces move, and the basic rules, you can play it and understand what is happening. Sadly, Hikaru never thought about how the pieces move, he ignored that part of the original tutorial video. He sees the knight as moving in an L-shape instead of what it actually does, 2 spaces in one dimension, 1 in another.
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@@Sunnywastakentoo changing the orientation of the boards really helps with getting the intuition of how pieces can move through time
Aliensrock the guy who plays mainly Bloons TD?
Hikaru: **chooses weak AI** , okey let's go
AI: **adds himself a bishop in the game**
Hikaru: what ?
AI: Im not that weak
You get extra pieces by making boards with fewer of them. Like... you can save your king by sending him to the past (now you have a board with no king, where you can't lose), but you've also made a board that has 2 kings. The one it went to.
I can see how determined he is, as a GM in chess it is ofc an achievement and yet reaching higher and testing their limits. Also this looks fun ngl :D
He definitely could have got this if he didn't skim over "how peices move" in the rules and fixed his faulty reasoning for the first knight and rook puzzles instead of just saying "knights move weird in time. That makes sense to me"
Yeah the first part was normal so he thought it was the same thing with everything else. Man, that was real painful to watch though.
your gae instantnoob
It's a really simple and well thought out game if he just bothered to read the rules lol
@@dillankulp1777 Well though out? Yes. Simple? No. Not to dismiss that had he stopped for a moment, looked at the rules, and payed close attention in the tutorial videos, he would have been fine.
@@Herodegon It is simple, for example a bishop moves an equal number of spaces in precisely two dimensions, the same as always. What I think trips people up is not complexity, it's the way the way the dimensions are visualized. Laying three dimensions into a 2d plane is hard enough to keep straight in out head, but also the two extra dimensions are conceptualized as time and alternate realities which though simple, takes our brains some getting used to.
i'm like 20 minutes in and hikaru still hasn't created a timeline himself...
Probably because this game sucks
@@ggaming8999 this game is not fucking chess. it's not the game that sucks, it's the player that doesn't understand it.
@@BusinessWolf1 nah the game seems pretty lame
@@xHannibal that's your personal opinion. doesn't change the fact that hikaru didn't take any time to understand it
@@BusinessWolf1 I think they're just trying to mess with you at this point.
with the knight puzzle you dont have to move the knight to the light square because the king is in check already, you move the knight to the square where the king is plus one move into the past, which attacks the king from a turn ago, its a pretty funky mechanic
The first time I realised how intuitive I find time travel is weird was when I discovered videos of this game and saw people orders of magnitude better at chess than I am coming unstuck because they didn't understand stuff in the time travel element that was obvious to me.
I love how much he says "Okay now I get it" while clearly still not getting it
"The rules seem pretty straightforward..." Bro! You didn't even read it! Your answers were all there!
1:31 That’s the Jurassic Rook, the past doesn’t change and it’s in the same timeline ‘file’ so it moves laterally through it, like a vanilla rook
imagine that boards left to right are stacked on top of each other and boards up and down are next to those boards and the space makes more sence
This whole game feels like a Futurama joke...
thats so goddamn accurate, im speechless
17:04 it doesn't need to go in an L. In chess, the knight always goes two squares along one axis and one on another (x and y-axis because of there being only 2 dimensions). The knight went two squares left (y-axis), and one down on the axis of time (on the time-multiverse plane)
That's still an L, just from a different perspective. :-B
Yeah I saw this as well, but it's only bc I saw the pattern between an L shape in normal chess and this version, just like the little math puzzles where u need to find the pattern in irder to solve the puzzle y'know?
@@irrelevant_noob a short L?
@@bruh_bruh_the_bruhest_bruh think of it like this: say you have a hotel floor-plan... and you go 2 rooms over, but 1 floor down. Sure, if you focus on the floor-plan, you'll only see a projection which looks like an I, but from the side of the hotel, it's clearly still an L.
I don't understand. The knight moves two spaces on the x axis. So it should be able to move one space on another axis. But it seemingly moves back in time two spots. Or is a movement on the time axis always considered as moving one spot?
Him: too confused to finish one of the introductionary examples
Also him: alright, let's play a game
What amazes me even more is that he managed to win multiple games without understanding the new mechanics
The number of times that Hikaru says "now I've got it!" when in fact, he did not get it.
alternative title: how to give twitch chat an aneurism for 30 minutes straight
You humans can't understand it yet, but the time will come.
I do your wrong aliens rock made a new video explaining it better so get rekt
@@dragon5776 Aliensrock is also an alien. That's why he can explain it to us small brained humans.
i have never laughed as hard as I did in this video, love this guy so much
"I thought the puzzles were pretty clear" - after ragequitting every puzzle
hearing tyler tripped me up not gonna lie but i love that my boy is getting the attention he deserved
@Coflix same good days
Here's something a little fun for you: in 5D chess, knights and bishops are worth MORE than rooks, easily.
The solo knight mate in 3 blew my mind
@Abhinav Sajid Not what I said. A knight, by itself, is worth more than a Rook in 5D chess. A Bishop alone is worth more than a rook in 5D chess.
Rooks are also extremely valuable. They may not have the versatility of two-dimensional movement, but getting a rook onto the king's start position is an instant checkmate at any point in the game. Bishops take a lot more careful setup to past-mate with, and the 1:1 movement rule means they have a limited window to do it in.
@@66maybe66 ehhh, rooks can only go back in time until they hit something. If you drop a knight on your king square in the midgame that checkmate goes away
There is an inside joke in 5D chess wich is Jurassic rook because the rook can travel to the start so the rook can help a lot in tight situations
I wish they would let Alpha Zero play this against itself
This is a really interesting experiment to show how your training can get in the way when trying to learb something new
"i think i get this" "yeah i get it now" "okay i get it"
* doesn't make even a single move into a different board
The start (and most of the rest) felt like watching a boomer learning about electronics. He's been stuck with 2D chess for so long that new versions feel totally alien in every way they stray from the original.
It kinda makes sense, and in a way gives new players a better winning chance than more experienced ones. The veterans think they are playing a game very different from what it is in reality.
"new versions feel totally alien in every way they stray from the original" This is why we just hit alien stuff with rock and sticks. Your time will come.
"NOW YOU CAN FEEL EXACTLY HOW WE FEEL WHEN PLAYING NORMAL CHESS!"
That and immediately going to “stream sniping” lol
Now that we are closing in on a 1 year gap since Hikaru first attempted this format, it would be fun to see him actually read the rules and use his galaxy-brain to make some insane checkmates into the past!
One of the main win conditions is to find a checkmate as fast as possible by checking the king in the past. Once you find that checkmate, it will be a lock of timeline, where there will be no more moves beyond that timeline since the check move will occur no matter what branch you are at. At that point, you go to the "absolute point" phase like Doctor Strange trying to save Christine Palmer (The checkmate being Christine Palmer's incoming death), where you and your opponent make different branches and try to find counterchecks on these branches to make a checkmate before the original checkmate (chronologically in both senses).
As a strategy, you only make the first checkmate into the past if you're sure that you can beat your opponent in fights going back in the past.
It's going to be difficult to make tactics and strategies when even a basic win condition is hard to explain lmao.
Of course he will struggle when nobody on the chat understand but they keep giving wrong answers :(
chat always give wrong answers, even at regular chess
@@applehack97 haha true
U right
chat is actually far more regularly correct in this because the missplays are knowledge based on comprehension based.
Nah
In the beginning when chat kept saying yes about where he was going to move the knight even though it was completely wrong was so frustrating.
Twitch chat is not that bright. In Levy's videos they always suggest some stupid moves.
"yeah i got a pretty good grasp on this now i understand this game"
The fact that he couldn’t understand that he was getting checked in the past, and the present doesn’t matter if the king in the past is in check mate was so frustrating