Another BROKEN DEERE....................Replacing Brakes on a John Deere 7R
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- We have been having issues with plugged hydraulic filters here lately with the 7200R. We ended up finding that the brake disk on the left side was completely gone and ended up replacing the brakes on both sides.
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Another can`t leave video Andy,the workings of the modernday tractor compaired to those of my
day,1950/60s,are mindboggling
The thing I appreciate about the Challenger/ Fendt/ Massey tractors is that the oils in the hydraulic reservoir, transmission, and planetaries are all kept separate. If there is a problem in one of those areas, then contamination or damage is less likely to spread to the others.
Can't recommend this channel enough this is real farming these guys are not afraid to have a go anymore that doesn't like this doesn't really know farming this is old school at its best in Ireland this is how it is great stuff
Thanks
Just one word...fascinating. First time I've seen a tear down like that. They look just like big automatic trans clutches. Thanks for sharing this.
Very helpful video. You've given me the confidence to do brakes on our 7290R and save a pile of money.
Thank you very much!
Glad to hear
So good to have staff that have so much hands on knowledge and skills to do your own repairs good to see great team work all the best from West Wales 🏴
Never ceases to me amaze me how smart jake is and how much talent he has
Yes
thats quite a process to do a brake job , glad you found the problem at the brake and not in deeper $$$$$$$ great video as usual keep em coming !
That was an interesting trip inside those brakes.. thanks for video taking us along. Amazing.
Good video, amazed there was no warning on that tractor with how bad that brake was gone and the other in good condition
Another job in the books, but it`s good that John Deere can come out and help .Love me some green paint ! The only other tractor that I ever drove was a 2870 Case 4 wheel drive that we pulled a 330 John Deere disk, a 8 W/A row ripper hipper (planted cotton on a bed) and a 25 foot John Deere do-all which had 39 shanks on it over fresh broke ground (moldboard) ,It was stout but 15 mph road speed . Enjoyed watching .
I have to say the brake issue reminded me of my Dad and Grandad. Grandad had a '51 chevy and was tearing up clutches every few thousand miles. So the story goes he never used first gear and would run at high revs just to get the car going. My Dad did the clutch work and it drove him crazy, lol. You never know how people treat your equipment. Good luck, thanks.
Very complex tractor. John Deere is no ordinary tractor. one has to invest in good operator coz replacing those parts is not a small joke. i enjoyed watching the service. every time i learn something about tractors.
Very interesting. I worked for a farmer during my high school and junior college days (late 50s and early 60s) but never spent much time other than greasing and changing the oil and filters on a 42 and a 48 'B" JD and a 1958 '60' model. Most of my time was spent on the model 'B' machines.
Thanks for an interesting post. I subscribed and will be following you plus I have a lot of catching up to do.
Live long and prosper.
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Great video guys 👍, I really like watching heavy equipment and truck repair videos, I watch loots of your equipment repair videos today and yesterday great videos 👍🔧 have a good wekent 🤝🤠
Man that was a mess for sure it's amazing how much stuff can get screwed up good video I never knew that you had to take all that apart for brakes I learned a bunch thanks for sharing this part of repairs.
Thouroughly enjoyed the brake job video boss. Good one. Thank you for sharing and thank you for introducing Bob. Highlight right there.
It is always good to have the expert to give a helping hand.
Yes
Another interesting educational video Andy, Thx.
One of several sweet videos so so thankful to learn a sample of special stuff. Thank you more than you will ever know Andy !!!!!
Thanks for the ride along Andy, with all of the repairs going on. The whole crew is getting some invaluable OJT. Nothing can substitute real world problems and how to fix them.
Andy always takes time to make the young people feel good!! # Super cool dude!!
Great content. Have piled enough hours in these to wonder how the brakes work. Deere💯💪
You have to be your dealers favorite customer. Your still my favorite channel and I don’t even farm.
That is the size disc to stop that size tractor come on John Deere no wonder the hyd are so screwed up thanks for the video love seeing y’all farm
Fabulous video Andy yeah your left side that’s was bad 😲
I just done the brakes on my big New Holland they were bad but not as bad as yours😉 and was 1st set in her for new with 4800hrs on her 👍
Hi there ouch maybe it's time for you to get Andrew to try a red tractor or two. God bless and thanks for sharing your day to day operation very interesting. For me as an old farmer. Lol
Damn I love 515 loctite or 510 which ever you used to reseal it. Magic stuff!!!!
We all like what you do andy thank you sir
I like watching these, funny that you're all over the place with the names.. 🙃
Nice job Andy. Good thing you got that done and caught that.
It's a pain though
@@FarmingFixingFabricating We had brakes going bad on our 4555 and some of the particles got into the pump and ruined the pump
@@mikep7810 ouch
guess we all know where that material was coming from. Nice to see friends drop by.
Thanks for sharing Andy 👍
Really enjoy your videos andy love the wide variety of work you all do.
Great video Andy, there is nothing fake about your content man. Life on the farm is a busy and ever changing life that's for sure. Curious as to why one side wore out completely while the other side was fine. I sure hope all the brake and plugged filter issues are behind you. Three cheers to Jared too, he's always busy fixing things. Cheers
I think the brake pedal got rode some while packing bunk. Lots of starts and stops.
November 2024. Still use my father's Model D Case. Only now do I need to replace the brake shoes on it. And, everything is easily accessible. The bigger and newer the tractor, the more p[problems it will have and much more expensive to repair.
Andy it could have been a parts failure with that plate broken, the plate may have been faulty to break like that, but really nobody knows what exactly happened, wether it’s operator, parts failure or fatigue, just that it did happen so all you can do is repair it and get it back to work, it’s all part of owning machinery, good vid though very enjoyable
One wsy to helpclean system, what ido is rig up an in line full flow filter and plug into the remotes and engage it while your running the machine.
Time for a JCB fastrac 4 large outboard discs two calipers per discs .half worn pads after 2000 hrs.awesome brakes. Interesting video Andy keep up the good work.🙉🙉👍👍😀
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beats me why more tractor manufacturers don,t follow the JCB example - why did any tractor designer think that allowing brake residue to circulate around precision engineered hydraulic components is acceptable? - and most tractors have had similar design for 40 plus years that I know of
Man, I can almost count the times I've used tractor brakes, there's a few spots where the hills we have are too much, but damn. Hopefully it was a defect. I'm the quarter man in a 1&1/4 operation, so this type of fixing is way way above our pay grade =p
Glad I found the channel.
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WOW! very interesting to see John Deere brakes. I work with as tractor mechanic. Rely like this videos!!
Enjoy the shop videos.
Appreciate you always reading the comments
Even the repeated ones
Have a great Friday
Always interesting to see the mechanics of farm machines. Nice video.
Yes it is indeed
@@FarmingFixingFabricating what state is this in
@@FarmingFixingFabricating hi just wondering do you find putting bolt through forks the best way to hold half axle ? Or is a engine heist better? Thanks
@@missymitchell9766 bad state. Tractor was fucked.
@@georgerodgers4030 I'd imagine they use the forklift with a bolt through it, or a Bow shackle because it's far easier to move than an engine hoist. Don't need to be yanking it backwards on the floor to get it to move. That's my assumption to your question. Seems like an obvious answer. but I could 100% be wrong. But it's also a machine they have, and a versatile one at that. I'd definitely use a forklift over an engine hoist. Obviously space is a factor, of which they have ample amounts of.
Hi Andy. I say you take a red paint marker a Wright on dash. Do NOT REST FOOT ON BREAK PEDAL.. One of are operators was doing that. What gave it away was all ways left side..your friend. Chicken farmer ridgway pa.
I’d say you do a couple 25-50 hour oil and filter changes on that tractor too.
It's cheaper to go ahead and change Oil & filters than having to go into the transmission to be repaired!!
I think he said it was almost full at 98 quarts. That's 25 gallons of oil. Sounds a bit like a swimming pool. You don't change the water every time it gets a little dirty. You treat it and filter it.
@mashedmitten Seems to me the expert from John Deere told him to change the filter after a few hours of running. Don't recall him saying he was told to change all the oil again. I think I'd take the word of the professional who was on site rather than some "lame brain," arm chair expert on the internet.
@mashedmitten Lame-brain, hockey puck...quite the vocabulary there. Another Internet arm chair expert. You do realize that he put 98+ quarts in the thing already, right? Sounds like he already drained it and filled it and the expert, you know the one you're smarter than, told him to change the filter again after a few hours running. I'm thinking these guys do this enough, have it under control and don't need your advice anyway. Personally, I'd stick with the JD tech.
I thought left hand brake wear would have been a thing of the past.
It was however fairly normal on smaller 2WD tractors used for ploughing in the UK way back when reversible ploughs were a new fangled thing.
Makes sense
Very interesting and educational video. We can learn a lot from these.. thx.
Bottom line they just don't make them to last like they use to. John Deere 4010 still going strong, but sure it does not have the power that your 7R has, but it was built to take the power and more than what it was built for. Glad I am retired. Glad to see some people still farming.
Notice the Left side broke great video Andy!
Check brake pedal adjustment, make sure the are not dragging. I put a clutch in a 9400T a year after the JD dealer put one in, found the clutch cable was hanging up, not releasing completely. It caused slippage wearing the new clutch out.
Ouch
Great explanation video. Keep them coming.Catchya at the next one. Be safe!
Andy You are first class.
Sounds like LHS brake would not release because of oring bind?
Hi we run valtra here brakes are discs as well but there 5discs and 3wear plates. Anytime we do brakes we soake the discs in oil b4 we put them in that way they never run dry. We often fill a transmission with say half diesal and half cheap hyd oil run it for few minutes and drain to get as much grit as possible out. Grit is torture to fully get out😣and blocks everything
Those counter weights look like a good 3500 pounds watching the old Clark do some bouncing ha. Looks like a fun job! Glad you decided to dedicate this job to its own video..
If your not using the pedal your foot should be on the floor, i would be willing to bet it was caused from riding the brake. Like your videos andy very educational.
More than likely
Only 4 digit hours thats rare around your place. Thats like brand new. Lol 🤣 having that many high hour tractors is true testament to care they receive
If you un-bolt the prime tire that hub will slide off a lot easier! Also easier to put back on.. I’ve worked on some that were rusted together.. not very fun stuff to work on..
O my now a old rotery piston pump from my college and it was so cool learning how it worked was on axlot of Green single or double row. Was sweet to learn just a clue to how any color works. Now the water pump on dads 1964 IH CUB LOW BOY.
WATER C COOLED BUT THE WATER PUMP ??? None. So cool 😎 I won several bets. Sweet just sweet.
I was surprised, usually wet disk last a long time.
U got an awesome dealer most dealers want to do it all or nothing not help a farmer do it lol
They treat us well
Had a company not to far from us that does custom manure hauling. Basically brand new 1038 fendt absolutely destroy the brakes on that tractor. Over $25k in repairs if I remember right.
anything to do with he lack of brakes on American trailed equipment?
Good video Andy. I was wondering if that pressure "ring," for lack of a better term, somehow got hung up in the extended position. Kind of like a hung up caliper. Just a thought. That's a nice looking tractor too.
I think the major reason why brakes was damaged on the left side is an equal load on both sides. Actually fault was on the right side maybe seal or low hydraulic pressure in brake cylinder
Thanks Andy for a very informative video
Nice video. Learned alot
Looks like to me the left brake pedal get the most use. Need to flip the doohickey that make brakes work together.👍🤣
Enjoyed watching your channel!!! I have a John Deere 5205. Great tractor when it running
Excellent video keep up the good work 👍👍👍👍
Great video young man. That brake disc might just have enough dish on it to make a wok out of it if you weld up the holes! Anyone for a stir fry dinner?
Very interesting video Andy I enjoyed that one. I enjoy them all.
Is the entire system is contaminated? Usually wet brakes are bullet proof.
Yeah everything has to be replaced now…new transmission, differentials, the front hydraulic axle all the components
Four huge tires driven by a planetary so what turns them x 3 has to stop them x 3 I've seen bigger brakes on road racing cars. I also like that when removing the second R/H tire and wheel the whole tractor shifts left, and when they take apart the l/h side it shifts while the tech is under both the tractor and the forklift
Yup
No, you haven't seen bigger brakes on road cars, look at the diameter of that plate, even if thin it is a large surface.
Wet brakes do not get hot the same as dry brakes, heat is the main cause of rapid deterioration in friction materials - Clutches, brakes, etc.
Nice to find the problem instead of chasing it
Never a dull moment on the farm.
Great video Andy
People saying you might want to go red , LOL red breakdown too .
Teddy Dunford red breakdown more I know a guy that had a red tractor brake down 3 times in a month then on the last one the brake pump went out and and they were moving down the road so anyways the tractor wrecked and it tore the hole rear end off
Red, Green, Yellow, etc.... they all break down.
Red guys say Deere’s are green so they can hide in the weeds when they break. Deere guys say case are red so you can find where you left them when they broke down
Another good video Andy 👍
Looks alot like who did the brake before didnt get the half shaft splines through the friction disk and bolted the bell housing up and therefore making the half shaft bend the disk. Somet along them lines anyway.
I like these fixing video keep on going greets grom Holland
I'm not familiar with the 7 series but on the 8R (8RT in my case) there is a priority valve...when the O rings go it can cause the brakes to drag and do just what you found inside this one. I would look into that so you don't end up doing this again in a couple years.
Very intersand this video.
Have you also checked the brake pressures. Maybe there is a continuous amount of brake pressure on the cylinder, causing the brake disc to wear extra
It seems to be working fine now
Now that’s some serious weighted fixing.
Who would have thunk the wet brakes on dads Ford 1320 that those many years ago and I always wondered what wet brakes could be. All the truck and or car brakes. But now I have a clue what they might look like. Different brand and what a expense that must have been. But safety #1 glad with family or anyone they got breaks now for sure. And also a non farmer I have clue those noches are for on the axle. So thankful. How those work. Is filter a spin on? A couple changes would be planned all to protect i would think. Thank you a lot.
Yes spin on
All the left side pump braking to turn sharp at the end of the row lol
Love these type of videos you do! There very informative
Nice channel. Thanks for publishing
Thank you
👍, great video, thanks for sharing.
Nice video, thanks for posting it.
From his Tik Tok looks like Nate likes to play alotttt. Haha
Anyways another amazing video!!! I just subscribed awhile ago and starting to watch all your video!! Love em already!!
Awesome to hear
I am wondering if the plate cracked and took out the disk. I am a bit surprised there is only one disk as the cats I am used to always seemed to have at least two. Does J.D. offer ultra high efficiency filters ( clean out filters) ? WE would run them in the cats when we had a failure that contaminated the oil. I would keep doing the filters every few days until they are clean, filters are cheaper than a trans job. The oil will be fine as the filters will keep cleaning it. hope this is useful info.
I'll have to check, thanks
You will need to keep a eye out for unnecessary brake light action.
Super 👌 working nice,
6155m 6150m 6175m John Deere tractor oil service dashboard next oil change warning simple reset video need apload please sir
Here's another thought. Is there any chance the brakes on the right side were not working, causing the left side to do all the work? That would explain both the extreme wear on the left, and the lack of wear on the right.
They were working on the right, we had a guy riding his for on the pedal packing bunk is what my thoughts are.
Dam! That job prolly put a dent in the beer budget😉😉
Andy; Any way you can put a pressure guage on that side for the brakes. See if the control valve is sendings a slight pressure to that brake when the pedal is all the way up? Could the linkage be out of adjustment keeping the brake partially on? I hope you can put your finger on the problem and know for sure what caused the failure. If. Not, it’s going to happing again
I assume operator error
Good fix, good for a long time!!
Excellent video well done very informative article thanks 🇬🇧🇺🇸🚜🚜🚜
Good hib you guys. Might want to think if doing what the Welkers did and go with CASE IH. They never talk about break downs. Just saying. 😁😎✌👍
Aren't there "chip plugs" in the hydraulic systems? Don't you open filters at service intervals to see what they're catching? How did it get to this point?