Top 10 Strongest 4 Star Operators in Arknights (2024)

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
  • 4-star operators are the easiest to get and build, but with so many options in the game it can be confusing on who to build
    So, in this video I will give you my top 10 operators to build as a new player.
    Also leave me a comment on who's your favorite four-star operators.
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  • @dagyoo
    @dagyoo  6 месяцев назад +88

    I have seen some critiquing comments and I want to walk you through my thinking process
    1- this is a top 10 list I can't include all the good operators (like someone said Vigna is good but I don't think she is to 10)
    and that takes us to the second point
    2- this list is based on my opinion and experience playing the game, I've said that in the intro
    3- I have also said in the intro that this is for new players so don't expect me to recommend Purestream over Sussurro because you need to E2 her with the module to be better, which takes us to the 4th point
    4- I added the recommendation to Elite 2 just to put perspective for new players on how these operators will perform later, the core of the video is still based on these operators being E1 ( because again this list is for new players, and new players will eventually get operators better than most of the 4-star operators) and this takes us to point 5
    5- Myrtle is number one because (of course, she is good) and other operators can't replace her role unlike other 4-star operators
    Again this is just my thinking process, thank you so much for your comments

    • @asheqabeer1798
      @asheqabeer1798 6 месяцев назад +9

      Yeah but saying E2ing Ethan doesn't increase his CC is wrong cuz of masteries and modules is wrong tho. Also the proper replacement for jaye would be Swire alter rather than the other merchants who focus on CC

    • @phatnguyentan2104
      @phatnguyentan2104 6 месяцев назад +9

      but thats just saying "becuz Myrtle is the best so you should mastery her skill" while Ethan being "His E2 does not affect his CC alot" without even bother mentioning about his Module and Masteries, its pure bias in any mean, if you wont talk about Ethan's module and masteries why even put him in the video?

    • @vdeverguetta8958
      @vdeverguetta8958 6 месяцев назад +9

      The problem I have is the information skipping and the criteria used, because, for example, Myrtle is "irreplaceable", except that you don't mention that raw DP generation doesn't necessarily translate to "better character", when we compare it to Elysium and Saileach that aren’t DP bots, Cantabile and Ines that are WAAAAAAY more verstile, and often those other options produce enough DP for most stages. Maybe for the "DP production" she's the best cost-efficient operator, but that doesn't automatically make her the most useful.
      And, ok, I get the Myrtle being irreplaceable argument, but if we really are doing that, then adjust the criteria with the other replacements, Ethan DOESN'T get replaced by Manticore or Mizuki, Ethan is just plain better than Manticore in like 95% of content, and Mizuki doesn't have nearly as much cc potential as Ethan, they are not valid replacements, Ethan is irreplaceable (also saying Ethan doesn't get his cc upgraded by E2 is straight up wrong, without even mentioning how his module is arguably one of the best modules among 4☆s and 5☆s). Same with Jaye, Dollkeepers are by no means replacements for Jaye, Jaye has fast redeployment time and healing, which makes him extremely versatile, no Dollkeeper can do that, he isn’t even replaceable by Mr. Nothing or Lee because of the same healing, the only relative replacement I see for Jaye is Mountain and if we aren’t talking about Jaye as helidrop, but Jaye is simply not replaceabe by any conventional operator mention.

    • @godo2712
      @godo2712 6 месяцев назад +9

      >Should you E2 Ethan? No, it's not much value.
      when a guide-makers say "do not promote a character with most broken module in the game", i dunno what to say to this
      this is equivalent of saying "don't give Abyss Hunters their modules, it wouldn't make much difference"

    • @ak_nora
      @ak_nora 6 месяцев назад +4

      I would have absolutely let Sussurro slide if not for the Ethan slander 💀
      I only mentioned Purestream because I brought up Ethan module into the mix, and Purestream benefits a lot from her module too.

  • @ak_nora
    @ak_nora 6 месяцев назад +186

    7:00 "Elite 2 doesn't effect his crowd control a lot"
    Oh no, you're gravely mistaken. E2 grants access to module and masteries. His module increases his bind chance to 28%, and extends the bind to 3.5s, conveniently as long as his attack interval. S2M3 gives him 3x multiplier on the bind chance. Pair them both, you go from 62.5% bind with 0.5s gap, to 84% permabind chance. That's massive.
    On the topic of module, Purestream is the better medic compared to Sussurro. She loses heal penalty with module lv1, effectively making her a wide range full medic. lv3 boosts her burst healing, edging over Sussurro.

    • @yojimbo7756
      @yojimbo7756 6 месяцев назад +35

      [insert any game here] youtubers on their way to make guides: 🤡

    • @kevinseraphin5456
      @kevinseraphin5456 6 месяцев назад +6

      Bro even without taking the M3 or module in consideration, wich I can understand Masteries and modules are not a priority for new players... He still fucking said from 2 to 3seconds, aka a +50% bind time isn't a lot of value

    • @ReWhiteout
      @ReWhiteout 6 месяцев назад +4

      My man if they could finally unlock the module system for the 4 stars, they better start building the 6 stars instead lmao.

    • @ak_nora
      @ak_nora 6 месяцев назад +26

      ​@@ReWhiteoutmy dude, you are underestimating how cheap building a 4 star gets (trust me, I was there too)

    • @MinoTaurus205
      @MinoTaurus205 6 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@ReWhiteout I prefer to build Ethan than Mizuki

  • @cirnobyl9158
    @cirnobyl9158 6 месяцев назад +100

    For people who enjoy IS especially on high difficulty, Ethan is arguaby #1. He does so much for a 4*, outclassing Manticore, Kirara, and sometimes even Mizuki with his very long binds. Doesn't matter that enemies have 5000 ATK if they can't move.

    • @vdeverguetta8958
      @vdeverguetta8958 6 месяцев назад +21

      Not sometimes, Ethan straight up outclasses Mizuki at cc, Mizuki is more focused on dmg, if we compare actual cc capabilites, Ethan is better by a mile

    • @sayospecter6731
      @sayospecter6731 6 месяцев назад +15

      -To be fair, every single Ambusher outclassed Kirara-

    • @Hachigo_Yahiro
      @Hachigo_Yahiro 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@sayospecter6731lmao☠️

    • @demilung
      @demilung 6 месяцев назад +2

      Jaye still claps and even can provide healing in a pinch

    • @ian59
      @ian59 6 месяцев назад +6

      Myrtle is the only operator in the game (4*, 5*, or 6*) that is universally SSS tier in all content.
      So while I agree that Ethan is amazing in IS (and lots of other content as well) I would still not say that there is an argument that he should be #1 on this list over Myrtle.

  • @dreignknightaj
    @dreignknightaj 6 месяцев назад +48

    Myrtle is kinda the best investment in E2 priority not only is she cheap to build but also one of the best dp generator. And having an e2 unit means you can set her as a support unit so that you can also borrow E2 units from your friends or randos

    • @CzDelta92
      @CzDelta92 6 месяцев назад +8

      she can also heal vanguards which saves you in many stages early without a healer because of dp generation

  • @Taoist_Grandpa
    @Taoist_Grandpa 6 месяцев назад +187

    Myrtle is the best.

    • @dagyoo
      @dagyoo  6 месяцев назад +21

      Always has been.

    • @shironeko516
      @shironeko516 6 месяцев назад +2

      so true😭

    • @Souma_Ditya
      @Souma_Ditya 6 месяцев назад +4

      beast*

    • @pougetguillaume4632
      @pougetguillaume4632 6 месяцев назад +2

      We all live inside of myrtle's world.

    • @saharudin3159
      @saharudin3159 6 месяцев назад +2

      she is example that jer kit just perfect. as 4* she have cheap cost to build and deploy .her sole purpose just to generate dp so low damage is okay and lastly have great skill and talent .

  • @johanesbpermadi2016
    @johanesbpermadi2016 6 месяцев назад +41

    I would suggest to E2 ethan and mastery his 2nd skill plus lvl 3 module. With lvl 3 module and mastery 3, his bind rate is 84% and for 3.5 second duration instead of 62.5% chance and 2 seconds.

  • @Andreviel
    @Andreviel 6 месяцев назад +20

    Good guide for newbees. Replacements for Jay are: Lappland - the main silencer in the game and Mountain - almost invincible self-healing tiger.

  • @GawainW
    @GawainW 4 месяца назад +12

    I still think Perfumer is the most underrated 4*. A global regen effect that can even heal Mushas and Juggernauts is amazing.

    • @Kyokka
      @Kyokka Месяц назад +1

      Wait, she can?!!

    • @yumishitpost0513
      @yumishitpost0513 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@Kyokka she can't heal them with normal attack, but her talent will heal "all allies" even they're out of range with a small % but it still best for juggernauts

    • @Kyokka
      @Kyokka Месяц назад

      @@yumishitpost0513 tysm! I have confirmed that already, too, and prioritized her E2 over Nightingale's E2 as a result: Perfumer is both cheaper and more valuable for my current needs; Mudrock is the core unit for chapter 10 I'm going through now

    • @IzakiAkanami
      @IzakiAkanami 20 дней назад +1

      I've been using her ever since I promoted her to E2 for that amazing module, and that global healing helped me get through several difficult stages

  • @THasart
    @THasart 6 месяцев назад +19

    Nice video. Though I'd say that for Jaye, higher rarity replacement aren't dollkeepers, but Mountain.

  • @ahmedfalahy9337
    @ahmedfalahy9337 6 месяцев назад +18

    Video does not mention modules
    Ethan and Jaye modules help a LOT

  • @EvionFox
    @EvionFox 5 месяцев назад +6

    I really appreciate both this and the 5 star guide. I'm a very new player that came in halfway through the Adelle event and was scrambling to build my low-rarity team enough to be able to beat at least sl-8. My favorite thing about these vids is how thoughtfully they feature the operators' skills and where their strengths are, often making me take a second look at operators I may have ignored (Sorry Jay). I'd love to see similar sort of videos if you'd want to focus on different archetypes, like "top guards" or "top vanguards."

    • @dagyoo
      @dagyoo  5 месяцев назад +2

      I'm glad you found these videos helpful, the videos for this month are already planned but for your suggestion about top vanguard and guards I plan to make a tierlist for every archetype

  • @kadse2994
    @kadse2994 6 месяцев назад +7

    Fun fact some 4 star operators shines really well in certain event stages, for examples Ethan's S1 can delete a swarm of spawned floating teawares in the Invitation to Wine event with ease and Pinecone's S1 destroys the fast (and annoying) worms in the Operation Originium Dust (aka. R6 collab) event

  • @jinvu
    @jinvu 6 месяцев назад +9

    Don't forget Ethan's skill 1 (the dot dmg one) is super useful in some map types, it's the weird Asian map type with the enemies that leave behind fragments that require a certain number of hit counts to die rather than total damage value dealt. The dots wreck these guys and Ethan is mandatory on my team for these maps.

  • @Only_Ameen04
    @Only_Ameen04 6 месяцев назад +45

    HG really screwed up big time with 4* Myrtle being irreplaceable
    They should've made Saileach's talent reduce her own dp cost instead of next operator. At least that'll make her somewhat comparable.

    • @HappyLovesNymph
      @HappyLovesNymph 6 месяцев назад +1

      This is why when I bring Saileach or Elysium, I never use their S1.

    • @user-fj9gs9kp2e
      @user-fj9gs9kp2e 6 месяцев назад +2

      Tbf Saileach is very very close and often it is a good idea to bring 2 flags instead of 1 so any 2 of them work. And after release of Ines and Cantabile I have a 2 flags team or no flags team.

    • @Thalasseven
      @Thalasseven 6 месяцев назад +14

      Guys, stop thinking that because Myrtle keep being relevant in end game she better than her higher rarity options.
      95% of the time Elysium and Saileach will be way better than her, they bring more utility and they have better dp generation ( 18 instead of 14 ) to compensate for the higher sp cost.
      The fact that Myrtle can be better in 5% of the case doesn't invalidate higher rarity operator, and it's definitely not a screw up on HG side, quite the opposite in fact that's called great game design where every character has his specificity and utility even when overall worst than the max rarity ones

    • @ReWhiteout
      @ReWhiteout 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Thalassevencope

    • @alifakbar4232
      @alifakbar4232 6 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@ReWhiteoutwdym? Elysium and Saileach are far better than Myrtle lmao. Unless you want a flagbearer that doesn't bring any utility other than printing DP, then sure

  • @Luxo-tm9mp
    @Luxo-tm9mp 6 месяцев назад +5

    Since is a list for new player the opertors you recommend to replace should be 5* or 6* that are not limited

  • @Auroraen
    @Auroraen 6 месяцев назад +12

    quick correction, both saileach and elysium have better dp gen than myrtle, with or without masteries
    myrtles first activation is sooner, but she generates 14 dp every 30s for 0.467 dpps, and sai/ely generate 18 dp every 34s for 0.529 dpps (at sl7 0.486 dpps)
    and where cutter :(

    • @chaosdestructionlove
      @chaosdestructionlove 6 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for this, I use Ely consistently bc he is faster if you can spare placing a 9 dp op over a 8 dp op, i was very confused by the video saying she is THE best regardless of rarity bc ive definitely seen folks do comparison videos between the two in the past and myrtle didnt usually win. She is however great for very low investment.
      Granted, if you can use both at once they're very good in dp heavy stages or with dp heavy teams (jaye, Mr nothing, lee)

    • @vdeverguetta8958
      @vdeverguetta8958 6 месяцев назад +4

      Raw DP generation isn’t everything tbf. Myrtle not only takes less to activate her skill the first time, she's a lot easier to get pots on for the DP reduction, and although she produces less DP, her skill cycle is faster, so you get the DP sooner, and most of the time the first two skill activations are the most important. If we compare a max pot Myrtle with a pot 1 Saileach (I doubt a lot of people has the luxury to even have a single of her pots), both at S1M3, Myrtle takes 6 seconds less to start her skill cycle, which makes quite a bit of difference.
      I can't call her straight up replaceable by those other two higher rarity ops in the niche Myrtle does her best, cus the value those two have over Myrtle is that they have good utility and aren't just DP bots useless in everything else, but in the niche of pure DP, Myrtle has clear advantages.

    • @fieldrequired283
      @fieldrequired283 6 месяцев назад +2

      Myrtle comes down sooner and activates her ability faster, which means you get your early game breakpoints sooner, which is sort of the whole point of flag bearers.
      "Saileach has 10% better DP generation over 60 seconds" doesn't do you any good if you miss your deploy window 15 seconds into the mission because of her higher cost and slower skill cycle.

    • @jessm.sandler7187
      @jessm.sandler7187 5 месяцев назад

      I've been using sailech, Ely for a long time.
      For general content, doesn't matter which 2 of 3 flagbearers you bring. The DP gen is overkill regardless. Myrtle first cast is definitely faster but the context of map and units to be deployed after would make it either good or neglible.
      Pots didn't really matter as much as I thought. What matters more is if the map lets you deploy one flagbearer from the get go, which only sailech would occasionally struggle with.
      Real problem with sailech Ely is how expensive they are to build given their 5*/6* nature.
      As mentioned, any 2 flagbearer is overkill DP gen wise for general content. Only real place Ely, sailech combo is really needed is for CC* where Myrtle is heavily punished with DP gen penalty tag

  • @bakujin
    @bakujin 5 месяцев назад +2

    A few personal picks for me. Perfumer, her talent which provides passive healing helps sustain operators and summons which cannot be healed and also group healing is a nice. Snowsant a puller which I feel more comfortable with. Bubble, well she is just a personal pick.

  • @blumstein3468
    @blumstein3468 6 месяцев назад +2

    One correction I would like to posit, all else ignored, is that Ethan significantly benefits from E2. Combined with S2M3 and his Module, he goes from 75% to 84% bind chance. Furthermore, a 3.0s bind is about a 100% uptime provided he binds the enemies consistently. A 9% increase isn't that notable, but an 84% bind chance is high enough to rely on for auto clears.
    Yes, I know you don't focus much on Modules since this is a guide for new dokutahs. It's still good info to know, and definitely a notch in Ethan's favor.

  • @giangtrinhtruong7952
    @giangtrinhtruong7952 6 месяцев назад +16

    Honorable mention should be Pudding, her S2 dmg output is bigger than other 5* 6* chain casters sometimes.
    Some of my first module-unlocked ops are Ethan, Indigo, May and Pudding, those 4 make me skip Trinity model many times, especially in contents like SSS and CC.
    Also, have anyone told you that chain caster is a must in SSS?

    • @HappyLovesNymph
      @HappyLovesNymph 6 месяцев назад +2

      Does she really do more damage than Leizi and Passenger sometimes? From what I've seen (and experienced) both of them are really good at dealing damage. Passenger's skill is a nuke and Leizi can use her skill often with the SP per enemy hit

    • @giangtrinhtruong7952
      @giangtrinhtruong7952 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@HappyLovesNymph To be real, only when there are 2 enemies that she has the most damage coz her S2 removes the limit 1 instance of damage/enemy so you can bounce all 4 times, basically feel like attack twice (one enemy gets 3, one gets 2)

    • @sagram0re814
      @sagram0re814 6 месяцев назад

      The only thing i do in SSS is stack snipers on GG and stack vanguards on silverash. And then sit back and relax to schwing spam. Or stack defenders on gavialter because 9 block is funny XD

  • @Thalliet
    @Thalliet 3 месяца назад +2

    I think there should be a Honorable Mention to Totter. :D
    I'm not a lot knowledgeable of Arknights, but what i know it's that he's one of few or literally the only one who's capable to just target an invisible enemy. Even if he's not as a saver as some of those (since if he can attack them, he won't prioritize attacking those specially). As a 4★ Star with such a unique skill, he helped me a lot to deal with Enemies way too far or those that another of my DPS couldn't see.
    So, if you're a Newcomer, i would recommend you to build, mainly if you don't have much options to deal with invisible enemies that are too problematic.

  • @looneyflight
    @looneyflight 3 месяца назад

    Need a video like this just for heals. Using hibiscus and Ansel and the only other options I have right now are purestream myrrh gavial chestnut and good ol Lancet-2

  • @KirbyFrontier
    @KirbyFrontier 6 месяцев назад +1

    Gravel also has a good facility skill for producing gold bars, which is another reason to E2 her.

  • @devilkazumi578
    @devilkazumi578 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love gravel she's came in clutch for me on so many bosses and event mechanics lol

  • @kaynanbirro7277
    @kaynanbirro7277 6 месяцев назад +16

    Uhhh, where's Cutter? She has the highest damage of all four stars operators on low sp cost skills, also "e2 doesnt increase his crowd control" for Ethan? How did you even come up with that? It gives him access to masteries on skill 2, increasing his bind talent multiplier, and also his cheap module, which further enhances his bind to a quite ridiculous 84% chance and also makes the duration become permanent if he keeps landing them due to incresing both the bind duration and his atk speed.

    • @frds_skce
      @frds_skce 6 месяцев назад

      Dude, just get Chen or Irene instead to replace Cutter. She's such a budget swordmaster that everyone in her subclass is better than her

    • @kaynanbirro7277
      @kaynanbirro7277 6 месяцев назад +10

      @@frds_skce Fair enough, but she's still one of the top 5 four stars. If Cuora can be here she can too.

    • @JamesP7
      @JamesP7 6 месяцев назад +15

      ⁠@@frds_skceAh yes, the secret 4 stars Chen and Irene.

    • @alonso7599
      @alonso7599 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@frds_skce honestly i would prefer cutter over both of them because how spamable her skill is

    • @frds_skce
      @frds_skce 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@JamesP7 You don't have Chen and Irene? Skill issue then 😂

  • @francopoma2487
    @francopoma2487 6 месяцев назад +2

    And I thought Humus would take a place as a solid lane holder, or the old Arene doing heavy dmg to ground/air units....welp the last one is underrated tho
    edit: I forgot about Perfumer and Totter lol they're unique also for Totter you "dont" need to have invisible enemies to get to hit harder, his s2 alone can do the job with 2k crits

  • @jezlol4316
    @jezlol4316 6 месяцев назад

    Nice video and useful. I’ll add on my own behalf: never, hear me - never! don't upgrade to e2 frostleaf, she will only get worse at e2 due to her talent.

  • @Gludedguy1234
    @Gludedguy1234 6 месяцев назад

    Is there a Top 10 Strongest 5 Star Operators in Arknights video if not can you make one?

  • @adrianofumagalli9506
    @adrianofumagalli9506 6 месяцев назад +3

    Offtopic but should i buy exusiai from the certs shop? I have Muel, Surtr, Mudrock, Archetto, Lumen and Silence Alter, but i dont want thorns. Should i get her or it is better to wait?

    • @randomf2pplayah768
      @randomf2pplayah768 3 месяца назад

      Hmm.. I'm 2 months late but I hope you pulled for typhon instead

    • @adrianofumagalli9506
      @adrianofumagalli9506 3 месяца назад

      @@randomf2pplayah768 i pulled for typhon and didnt get her 💀. Atleast i got Jessica Alter

    • @Tyranid_Hive_Mind
      @Tyranid_Hive_Mind 3 месяца назад

      ​@@adrianofumagalli9506 got the opposite, i got typhon, but not jessica alter

  • @lipioma
    @lipioma 6 месяцев назад +3

    As much as I liked this video, I need to say this
    Other flagbearers DO have better dp-generation but IIRC only from like 3rd use of skill onwards
    But by that time you are prolly set up so it's not big deal

  • @aadipdip1326
    @aadipdip1326 6 месяцев назад +2

    i think i can add some more 4* operators who's good but not un the list
    1. Vigna, deal more damage than the other 5* charger vanguard, can make a hole against early high defense enemy, good assassin later after her job as vanguard is fulfilled.
    2. Cutter, early burst damager that can even hits air units.
    3. Perfumer, Global AoE healer.
    4. Podenco, AoE Silent, slower.
    Honestly speaking i think Gummy is not deserved to be in top 10, she is great but if you already build Cuora then you probably will rarely use Gummy because Cuora not only can block 4 units at once but also can regenerate her own health by herself too, not to mention that her talent also increase her defense too unlike Gummy who have talent who doesn't do anything for her defense and her healing. If you want her to become a healer replacement then forget it because if there's no attack target then she will not heal with her S1. Her S2 is akward to use because she stop doing anything first then stop attacking to heal ally afterwards make it not synchronised well with her talent.
    May also get overshadowed by 3* Kroos who is cheaper to build but also as strong as May.

  • @ads3047
    @ads3047 6 месяцев назад +1

    My 4* team consists of Gravel, Perfumer, Gavial, toter, gummy, cutter, podenco, pudding, meteor, Myrtle and Utage.

  • @SoulWhiteAngel
    @SoulWhiteAngel 6 месяцев назад +1

    Podenco, cutter, perfumer too.
    (I still hate that myrtle is so good. I actively dont use her or any flagbearers)

  • @RainForest-kq6rn
    @RainForest-kq6rn 6 месяцев назад +2

    My only e2 4* is just perfumer and myrtle lol. I still use them both in beating chapter 12-20. Perfumer save my ass lol

  • @ReWhiteout
    @ReWhiteout 6 месяцев назад +2

    1:55 should you E2 her? Yes, yes for me. For the sake of unlocking her story and she deserves after all the pain she took as a bait operator.
    Gravel is love

  • @Kurokairu
    @Kurokairu 6 месяцев назад +11

    Imma be honest, Totter ain't here is so funsies, an anti invis op that has an auto skill and an insane damage against invis enemies skill that can attack air, cover a wide range as a stationary unit. Even among the other Invisible related ops (SilverAsh and Ines), he still has his own niche as a 4* or other Besiegers (Rosa and soon to appear Typhon) as an invis enemy shredder.
    That aside, Jaye and Ethan goes insanely hard with modules, 1DP per 3 seconds in nat generation >>> 0 and gaming bind uptime makes any high attack enemies obsolete since they cant attack anyways.
    Sussurro being here is also uhh, yeah she has a burst healing S2 that can be used twice in a battle but honestly you almost never use excessively fast healing for anything other than keeping Surtr alive more than needed? Purestream also does the job while providing better range and S1 charges for manual heal bursts.
    I have no idea how to say about Myrtle since she's literally just there for the DP generation and sometimes extra healing?? Like yeah she would scale well for a team full of high rarities [Not with Texas Alter] especially with Bagpipe [Texas Alter doesn't need it] but that's when talking about a fullass high rarity team just for starter DP, she doesn't provide anything other than a better starting point which there are many cheap alternatives that can block better than her, deals more damage, not as frail, and that's not counting the fact that imposing Myrtle for E2 meaning others can also do well at E2 w/o Myrtle + DP nat gen/DP efficiency from other Vanguards that does a better job at something else. Being best at one singular job aint cutting it [Use Texas Alter better], you don't simply use other Flagbearers for DP generation either so there's kind of a catch. Her value also drops a ton when thing called low rarity teams exist and their DP cost penalty equals to 0 with normal dp regen rate (most of the game) and at high rarities setups, there are so many cheap DP starting options too, Marksman Snipers can easily start the stage, Mountain is obvious, any 6* Vanguards, Decel Binders, Summoners (infamous Ling), Executors [Texas Alter]. Also, high diff contents meaning you'd want everyone in your team to do a stellar job, seen throughout IS3 N15, CC (and POO) like CC12 where Elysium used for Slow and Def Reduce/Saileach for extra DP + S3 Temp Stun/Slow + Fragile). I ain't denying she's braindead start but looking at everything, I'd personally rather someone with an extra role that can also generate DP rather than just fully DP start advantage and place down everything faster (also it took me like 7 months to get her so I'm salty af and I don't even use her much, team doesnt benefit lots from it either)

    • @bluefenneris9009
      @bluefenneris9009 6 месяцев назад +2

      i swear totter is so underrated not only is he good for invis enemies but with his s2 he is also a really good wave-clearer

    • @xtranathor8143
      @xtranathor8143 5 месяцев назад

      Totter is let down by not prioritising invisible enemies. You need good placement to fix that.

  • @nootnot4548
    @nootnot4548 6 месяцев назад +1

    pls make more like this I'm starting to like this game

  • @VividVirid
    @VividVirid 6 месяцев назад +1

    I’d love another video like this but with 5 stars

    • @dagyoo
      @dagyoo  6 месяцев назад +1

      After the anniversary I'm going to make one for the 3 star after that I will make the 5 star one 😁

  • @h.a.m7911
    @h.a.m7911 6 месяцев назад +2

    No cutter?

  • @tsnranger-gm2mg
    @tsnranger-gm2mg 6 месяцев назад +3

    no totter humus or vigna??? totter is literally the only one in the game that can damage invisible enemies and he can get off 2.8k with his second skill and he has a 50 aspd increase

  • @lVicel
    @lVicel 6 месяцев назад +2

    Any 4-Star Operator can only aspire to second place, because Myrtle has first place as her throne.

  • @drillmachine7
    @drillmachine7 6 месяцев назад

    I disagree with some places but I agree with operators and no1. You could replace Pinecone or Gravel (Ethan included) but even in last stages they are still useful.

  • @phatnguyentan2104
    @phatnguyentan2104 6 месяцев назад +7

    They really smoked when they said "Ethan E2 does not affect his crowd control effect alot"

    • @kevinseraphin5456
      @kevinseraphin5456 6 месяцев назад

      Nah where he realy smoked was when he said AoE snipers could only hit 3 enemies at a time in the pinecone segment... where the fuck did this come from? xD

    • @phatnguyentan2104
      @phatnguyentan2104 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@kevinseraphin5456 yeahhh thats too, its like he didnt do his research well before making this video

    • @alonso7599
      @alonso7599 6 месяцев назад +1

      The whole info in this video is pretty outdated ngl, there are other 4* operators that deserve the spot like humus, cutter, totter and a few more i that should be there.

  • @iurygabriel602
    @iurygabriel602 Месяц назад

    For me, I would include Matoimaru. Just love her dmg output. As she can destroy caster and keep fighting after death with a 2nd life. I'm getting my 5,6 stars now, but I simply can't replace her haha

  • @markjaspermarcelino9944
    @markjaspermarcelino9944 6 месяцев назад

    In my opinion they are all worthy of E2ing, like my self all them are E2's in my account and i did not regret it, they are cheap in cost and upgrade and can do their role well.

  • @galuhdesuka7378
    @galuhdesuka7378 6 месяцев назад

    Remember watching this kind of video whem i'm still new playing arknight, then here i'm no so new player but still using myrtle. I remember when everyone talk about how good mytrle is, at first im not sure then when i get her max potent and e2 she become a god. Truly best operator😂

  • @elouisherspring705
    @elouisherspring705 6 месяцев назад +1

    I tried the Kay doodle team (all of them full pot, m3 and modules3... They're cheap
    Beanstalk, Bubble, Ethan, Ceobe, Popukar and Mountain (ill splice in Podenco and perfumer too they're friends)

    • @billybobjoe4847
      @billybobjoe4847 6 месяцев назад

      I kinda want to try that too. How'd they play?

    • @forgame
      @forgame 6 месяцев назад +1

      Sound like balance team but lack real dps and air-control.
      Should still win on most map tho except air heavy and dps check map

    • @freakdeath1020
      @freakdeath1020 6 месяцев назад

      @@forgame Kay can use her S3, never underestimate her S3 since it hits hard like a Heavyshooter (given if you M3) + her talent (w/ or without X mod).

    • @forgame
      @forgame 6 месяцев назад

      @@freakdeath1020 Still slow attack and bad anti-air, I use her both skill and s3 dps not that good, the damage is high but dps not great

  • @mikmikmikmikmikmikmik
    @mikmikmikmikmikmikmik 6 месяцев назад

    PINECONE MENTION FINALLY. SHE IS LITERALLY SO GOOD, PROUD E2 S3 PINECONE HAVER.

  • @gandahk416
    @gandahk416 6 месяцев назад +4

    You really skip totter?

  • @bloodmage7985
    @bloodmage7985 2 месяца назад

    Where is cutter...?

  • @rioklausfer544
    @rioklausfer544 6 месяцев назад

    Where are Podenco and Perfurmer ?

  • @bunsyn
    @bunsyn 5 месяцев назад +1

    this video has it wrong about ethan. he is absolutely an e2 candidate because when you unlock his module he has an 80-something % chance to perma bind enemies. with their modules, ethan and jaye are considered to be one of the best 4-stars in the game. surprisingly, cutter isn't on the list considering she's arguably one of the strongest 4-stars and vigna who does more damage than her 5-star counterpart. deep color who's maybe the most underrated 4-stars in the game since you can solo stages with her and her summons. lastly totter, who's one of the only operators in the game that can target invisible enemies. dr. silvergun has a youtube video of totter soloing IS3. you read that correctly.

  • @SimbahPardimin
    @SimbahPardimin 6 месяцев назад +1

    Which operators are requiring the cheapest material to E2? I need to finish pinboard mission 7 ASAP

    • @prd6617
      @prd6617 6 месяцев назад +1

      any 4* are cheap but i would suggest build the one that u will use a lot.

    • @SimbahPardimin
      @SimbahPardimin 6 месяцев назад

      How about Suzurro, the healer that you've mentioned

    • @Konpekikaminari
      @Konpekikaminari 6 месяцев назад

      ​@fediansyahprakoso1133 as far as 4-stars go, Sussuro is on the more "expensive" side, requiring both RMA70-12 and Loxic Kohl to promote

    • @SimbahPardimin
      @SimbahPardimin 6 месяцев назад

      @@Konpekikaminari then what's your recommendation, i've other option to promote gravel, i still cannot do the T3 farming coz i still struggling at 5-5 stage, so i've decided to get the Texas first at pinboard 8

    • @prd6617
      @prd6617 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@SimbahPardimin then it would be older/1st year 4* since they usually dont use newer/advance material from the latter stage although it will depend on ur play style.
      on my account, older 4* that still being use regularly for general stages or annihilation run: courier, gummy, meteor (all with S1M3) and perfumer (no mastery but lvl 1 module for 4 target heal)

  • @Konpekikaminari
    @Konpekikaminari 6 месяцев назад +5

    Shout out to Ambriel
    Is she good? IDK, probably not, but she sure is fun to use

    • @pqjsmzhwdidigsbrlsyahwnwue8439
      @pqjsmzhwdidigsbrlsyahwnwue8439 6 месяцев назад

      She’s pretty dang good imo, I’ve borrowed her a few times for IS2. Although, this is coming from a guy who has zero deadeye snipers built, so maybe my opinion isn’t the most informed either 😂

    • @JamesP7
      @JamesP7 6 месяцев назад

      @@pqjsmzhwdidigsbrlsyahwnwue8439The Ambriel + Goldenglow ccombo is fun to do in IS3

    • @freakdeath1020
      @freakdeath1020 6 месяцев назад

      She's good in IS and even event stages as a wave clearer, but not a main DPS. She's more of a Sub-DPS.

    • @Konpekikaminari
      @Konpekikaminari 6 месяцев назад +1

      @freakdeath1020 she's good in any place you need someone to thin down the mook horde
      Personally I love using her alongside GG for map-wide cullings

    • @JamesP7
      @JamesP7 6 месяцев назад

      @@Konpekikaminari I got Goldenglow last week and I also find it fun to do.

  • @drsnorlax_felineknights
    @drsnorlax_felineknights 6 месяцев назад +1

    My girls didn't make it to your top 10 sadly which are meteor and utage

  • @Senpailoveyou
    @Senpailoveyou 5 месяцев назад

    Ambriel with GG combo "you can place us anywhere i don't care!"

  • @MrBlackNorton
    @MrBlackNorton 6 месяцев назад +1

    pro tip for new player: e2 myrtle, find a friend that has e2 90 Ling, borrow Ling, profit.

    • @yamete_kudasai6969
      @yamete_kudasai6969 6 месяцев назад

      You can only use support units for story stages though right?

    • @MrBlackNorton
      @MrBlackNorton 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@yamete_kudasai6969 no, every stages should be available except tutorial

  • @maelisedimo4319
    @maelisedimo4319 4 месяца назад

    Sad metal crab noise

  • @godo2712
    @godo2712 6 месяцев назад +4

    as a 4* player myself, i don't see why would you put Pinecone over Parfumer or Totter
    granted, Totter needs his module to really promote him from "Elite killer" to "Boss Killer", but still

    • @sguizzooo
      @sguizzooo 4 месяца назад

      finally someone mentions perfumer, she can heal all the unhealable operators, has a global heal and heals passively, she's my most used healer hands down

    • @godo2712
      @godo2712 4 месяца назад

      @@sguizzooo ikr
      i'm mostly using Purestream as "unlimited Sussuro", and Parfumer for overall coverage
      i get that there are plenty of burst-healers in game, but there's no one who does the same thing as Parfumer, so she should be mentioned in this list

  • @0133BlackMage
    @0133BlackMage 4 месяца назад

    What about Perfumer? I'm new to the game, she looks solid, but I'm not sure

    • @Aprionares
      @Aprionares 4 месяца назад +2

      She's a pretty good AOE healer, her regen talent also nice for some enmity (cannot be traditionally healed) operators. However, she's kinda outclassed by Ptilopsis, since her talent increase auto sp recovery by 30%, a rare and good buff.
      If u dont have Ptilopsis though, Perfurmer is a nice one to build

    • @randomf2pplayah768
      @randomf2pplayah768 3 месяца назад +1

      Medic suggestions for you to build for efficiency.. if you have them or plan to get future medics..
      3*- Ansel
      4* - Perfumer/Sussuro
      5* - Ptilopsis/Warfarin
      6* - Lumen/Kaltsit/Nightingale/Shining/Reed Alter

  • @user-gu5pn4zj9e
    @user-gu5pn4zj9e 5 месяцев назад

    Where is mousse? She was my savior when i was a begginer.

  • @whitemagus2000
    @whitemagus2000 Месяц назад

    Yeah all these 4 stars are good ones. And with integrated strategies being a thing, you don't have to worry about wasting resources leveling them up. They'll always have a use. Perfumer is also really good for passive healing over the whole battlefield and healing behind you, when needed. I would E2 all of these operators and rank up your favorite skill for each, it isn't going to be a waste of money, I promise.

  • @allflying3
    @allflying3 4 месяца назад

    I love that you fell asleep on Sussuro's passive. She has bonus healing on operators with less than 10 DP. And guess which operators have less than 10 DP? That's right, Jaye and Sussuro can be your boss killer squad. She is more than worthy to E2 because it grants access to module and more stats mean more healing.

  • @salt3764
    @salt3764 6 месяцев назад +8

    Jaye can be replaced by Lee or Mr Nothing as they are the same class, merchant.
    Also surprised to see perfumer not in the list as she can not only heal 3 units in one go but her passive allows unit away from her get healing. Not only that, units such as mudrock and pence also benefits from her passive skill which can help in many cases such as toxic gas map

    • @farellaksmann8659
      @farellaksmann8659 6 месяцев назад +12

      Nah, Jaye can REPLACE Lee or Mr. . He's literally 4★ Mountain, you can turn your brain of and just let him solo a lane

    • @drsnorlax_felineknights
      @drsnorlax_felineknights 6 месяцев назад +5

      Agreed with the previous reply here. Jaye surprisingly cannot be replaced by his stronger counterpart subclass which is Mr. Nothing and Lee.
      Mr. Nothing usage is lil bit tricky and depends a lot on rng as his skill effect is randomized even though you can keep switching his skill. As in Lee's case, he just looks like another lane holder with higher damage output compared to Jaye, and that's it.
      While Jaye on the other hand can provide silence on to the enemy, or provide heals to allies and himself while multitasking as a lane holder

    • @salt3764
      @salt3764 6 месяцев назад

      @@farellaksmann8659 while Jaye is almost Mountain like he is not. Jaye requires a target to get his heal while mountain doesn't. Also mountain attacks all blocked units while Jaye doesn't. So to just compare Jaye to mountain just because of his self sustainability is not correct. At best I would say utage or hellagur is comparable to Jaye as they can self sustain and only has one block like Jaye

    • @cuwumsatyr715
      @cuwumsatyr715 6 месяцев назад +1

      for real, Perfumer is my healer of choice any day, shes the only non 6 star in my team and shes doing more than enough

  • @sardi8902
    @sardi8902 6 месяцев назад +1

    It might be controversial, but Perfumer is kinda top1 4* ingame with Myrtle

  • @Pluveus
    @Pluveus 2 месяца назад

    Myrtle, the 4* operator so good, it kinda broke all subsequent 5* operators.

  • @Rezter
    @Rezter 6 месяцев назад

    Myrtle. next question

  • @raid1010
    @raid1010 6 месяцев назад

    I like Gummy so much I E2'ed, max levelled and gave her S1M3 on my alt

    • @rezaramadea7574
      @rezaramadea7574 6 месяцев назад +2

      Are you SUPAH? 🤔

    • @raid1010
      @raid1010 6 месяцев назад

      @@rezaramadea7574 Nope

  • @horse4113
    @horse4113 6 месяцев назад

    Gravel is your secret swordmaster guard

    • @frds_skce
      @frds_skce 6 месяцев назад +1

      At E2, yes she is. But below that level and she only deals poopoo damage

  • @MartinWar
    @MartinWar Месяц назад

    Gravel is worthy of promoting her to Elite 2 and giving her Module 1.
    Ethan's Module 1 is good for him.

  • @ishadorman5682
    @ishadorman5682 Месяц назад

    Best unit is myrtle changing game difficulty,
    but without gravel some strats cannot work without spamming e2,
    always bring is perfurmer most efficient healer,
    strongest 4 star is gummy just place and forget

  • @Barge_Bingus
    @Barge_Bingus 6 месяцев назад +2

    I woulda said Cutter instead of Pinecone as a small preference but the fact you put ethan instead of UTAGE its mindblowing.

  • @VetyBurr
    @VetyBurr 6 месяцев назад

    Aw hell yea Gummy

  • @siegfriedcortes7726
    @siegfriedcortes7726 6 месяцев назад +2

    Myrtle is the hidden 7* of the game.

  • @parhamtavakolian7562
    @parhamtavakolian7562 6 месяцев назад

    Let's build cuora to tank the bosses

  • @MesaGamer503
    @MesaGamer503 6 месяцев назад

    Missed opportunity to used amongsussuro, 0/10.
    Jokes aside, great video.

  • @Dicaso9
    @Dicaso9 6 месяцев назад

    WOOOO PINECONE ENJOYER DETECTED

  • @souffle420
    @souffle420 6 месяцев назад +1

    For 4★ operator that worth to get an E2, in my opinion:
    • *Myrtle* : our DP queen. No need for explanation. Definitely a priority to get to E2
    • *Jaye* : semi fast-redeploy with great damage and self-sustainability
    • *Humus* : 4★ reaper with tankiness. His module is simple a chef kiss for his absurd durability
    • *Cutter* : the melee nuker that will spook you on your recruitment instead of Firewatch. Absolute bonker in spamming nuke thanks to her absurd SP regen
    • *Mousse* : the underdog of Arts fighter, until you realize that MINUS FORTY PERCENT ATTACK is not a joke
    • *Deepcolor* : wiggling tentacles that guard the lane with cheap cost. Need some brain to use, but that's what YT is good for, right?
    • *Pinecone* : nailgun Jason on steroid. Cute voice, cute design, great attack coverage, absolute war crime
    • *Ambriel* : her s2 combined with her module is simply crazy. That's like 2000++ per hit, and it has 36% chance to stun the enemy for 3s
    • *Cuora* : tanky. That's all you need from her
    • *Gummy* : kinda clunky in healing, but I prefer her over Nearl tbh
    *_Special Mention_*
    • *Luo Xiaohei* : the cute SP battery. Unfortunately he's limited and his defensive power is kinda squishy, but he's like Saga s2 but a Guard
    The majority of them got massive buff once their module released

    • @burningsamrai3681
      @burningsamrai3681 6 месяцев назад

      Ya Forgot to Mention Totter, Perfumer, Gavial, and Jessica, Those Four are underdogs and are quite useful in their own way.

  • @toothless6reach
    @toothless6reach 4 месяца назад +1

    DO NOT PROMOTE JAYE ! Jaye's niches can be replaced by plenty other operators. Where Jaye shines is with his RIIC base skill, which gives your trading post a great boost, among some of the best. Promoting him at all makes his RIIC base skills WORSE ! If you are really struggling and absolutely need someone to go melee on your enemies then sure, you can go for it, but otherwise, keeping him at E0 makes him very useful for reliably making lots of LMD.

  • @ima_die0381
    @ima_die0381 5 месяцев назад

    jaye can be replaced by lappland

  • @isaacfernandez2745
    @isaacfernandez2745 6 месяцев назад

    Would you say that whisperrain is a better medic to invest on than susurro?

    • @prd6617
      @prd6617 6 месяцев назад

      depend.
      whisperain S2 have fast aspd, higher hps, greater range, unlimited duration and can reduce status effect duration by half but she need 55 sec to get those benefit and without S2 active, she kind of underwhelming.
      susurro S2 are strong with low sp cost, cheap to build and easy to max pot but it limit the use to only 2 activation.

    • @HappyLovesNymph
      @HappyLovesNymph 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@prd6617Same problem with Lumen if you are using his S3

  • @yuisis5929
    @yuisis5929 6 месяцев назад

    I'm a new player and honestly I kinda hate how good Myrtle is. 😭Elysium was one of my first characters and I feel like I'll never get to use him..

    • @Mizufluffy
      @Mizufluffy 5 месяцев назад +2

      When I was a new player there was no Myrtle. She was released only after several months, and Elysium was released over 8 months after Myrtle. That might be one reason why I personally prefer Myrtle over Elysium because back in the day when Myrtle had just released she made a significant increase in early DP generation compared to other vanguards, and that was a long before I even got Bagpipe (for her vanguard SP talent).
      I personally think that if you prefer Elysium over Myrtle then there is really nothing stopping you from using him instead of her. One of the things I like and appreciate about Arknights is how stages can be cleared with many different kinds of squads so you can often use operators who you prefer over those who are "recommended" by other players.

  • @otherguy6865
    @otherguy6865 6 месяцев назад

    what?? Gravel's talent is strongly upgrade when you E2 her lol

  • @JADATH650
    @JADATH650 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ambriel not being on this list is a sin. Her global range and extremely high attack stat means you can deploy her in the corner of the map and have her punch holes through the toughest enemies

    • @aefad
      @aefad 6 месяцев назад

      It even works if they’re facing out the map

  • @yourdataispublic
    @yourdataispublic 6 месяцев назад

    Easiest to build. Uh uh, the game just wont give me my mats compared to when I wanna E2 5* and 6* !

  • @professionalwaffler8647
    @professionalwaffler8647 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bruh when you called my girl Gravel a bait operator I thought you meant it in a bad way...was about to come throw a singular wet noodle at each window of your house xD

  • @thanhhuanvu9295
    @thanhhuanvu9295 Месяц назад

    man Myrtle is so OP i alway fogot she's a 4star

  • @ian59
    @ian59 6 месяцев назад

    The only 1 I might disagree with is May.
    While I think she is really strong and her crowd control can be really useful it comes at the drawback of fairly terrible damage, so much so that it's worse than 3* damage. So in some situations it's worth using May for the CC even at that expense of DPS but there are a lot of situations where using May just means dying in slow mo.
    Meanwhile there's half a dozen other really strong 4* that are easily better than May and arguably on par with the other 9 operators on this list. Of those the only 1 I haven't seen named already in the comments below is Click which kind of surprises me since not only does she have great crowd control but can out DPS most other ST casters that aren't 6*. Fun fact about Click, if you don't use skills she can out DPS Eyjafjalla.
    Personally May comes in around 15-20 for my top 4* list but it's really hard to narrow down the top 10 I would have about 13 tied for #2.

  • @iyuix
    @iyuix 6 месяцев назад +1

    myrtle is in no way irreplaceable

  • @Inosix
    @Inosix 2 месяца назад

    You didn't bring up modules or skill mastery at all

  • @luciusjoeterry7526
    @luciusjoeterry7526 6 месяцев назад +1

    Frostleaf

  • @NikkiTheViolist
    @NikkiTheViolist 6 месяцев назад

    If you want to replace Myrtle, you need a really expensive replacement like one of the Pioneer Vanguards with the -DP Cost reduction module (Probably Texas, but Siege on S1 works as well) AND Zima with a stage-3 module.

    • @vdeverguetta8958
      @vdeverguetta8958 6 месяцев назад +3

      Pioneers are no replacement, no matter how many modules or improvements you put on them, the sheer DP per second total is way too high for any Pioneer to even consider replacing her, what is perfectly replaceable is how you manage your DP producing ops, because there are many times where the utility of Elysium, Saileach, Cantabile and specially Ines is simply a lot more valuable that a DP bot that doesn't do anything outside of that, while still not having actual DP issues

    • @Thalasseven
      @Thalasseven 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@vdeverguetta8958 exactly, and in fact most of the time Elysium and Saileach are as or more effective than Myrtle in dp generation

  • @bradleyreed8876
    @bradleyreed8876 5 месяцев назад

    A great list that I would really have appreciated when I was a new player. You obviously did not take modules into account. Jaye and Ethan definitely both get even better with modules. I think Cutter and Deepcolor (especially with module) are honorable mention worthy as well.

  • @Thalasseven
    @Thalasseven 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think Myrtle is very overrated, she's very good for a 4 star and is a good cheap option for early game but Elysium and Saileach are straight up upgrades, they bring better utility and the few more seconds you need to activate their skills are compensated by more dp and greater effects. Yes sometimes those few seconds can come in clutch, but sometimes it's the better generation of 5 and 6 star flagbearers that come in handy, so it really depends on the situation and most of the time higher rarity are better.
    If you have the spare ressources and are willing to get some improvement over Myrtle, Elysium is a great option.
    Ines, Cantabile and Saileach are also better overall even if they don't directly bring the same thing they are multi purpose and are useful past the first skill activation unlike most vanguards.
    Saga can also do this job pretty well with good survivability with talent, 2 block, Good damage and good support for the team with sp gain, all this while her third skill give her decent generation of dp.
    *EDIT:* When i say overrated i don't mean that she's bad, but i think that the author of this video is missinforming when he says that she has no upgrade. Saileach and Elysium are direct upgrades.

    • @freakdeath1020
      @freakdeath1020 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah, higher rarity flagbearers have better utility, but most use cases they were used is in CC or the boss stages in events for some small gain damage and CC. You sure can use them, but other than just being a DP generator, Myrtle is way better.
      Cantabile is good but only if you have her Max Pot, (it's not that she isn't good, it's just myrtle can do DP faster than cantabile since cantabile requires enemies to hit to gain DP and, in most cases, the more powerful your cantabile is, the lesser DP she gain from early wave where trash mobs were deployed (unless there's a bystander high def/ high HP enemy).
      Other vanguards are also great, now that you've mentioned Pioneer Vanguards, but Myrtle exist since the AK release and she's been always a UNIVERSAL OPTIMAL operator since you can use her in any squad that needs DP gen even if most of your squad are all (3*, 4*, 5*, 6*) squad, random op squad or niche squads. She's not overrated, she always been the META of Vanguards even if you call other existing vanguards "upgrades". It's not that hard to swallow.

    • @devilkazumi578
      @devilkazumi578 6 месяцев назад

      It depends on stage sometimes I prefer pioneers if I need a quick semi guard because flag bearers aren't meant to block and sometimes I use dp on kill when they're a bunch of weak mobs

    • @Thalasseven
      @Thalasseven 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@freakdeath1020 I'm sorry to inform you that you were missinformed. Myrtle isn't the "Universal Optimal Operator". That's just factually incorrect. Like straight up the numbers show that even removing all their team support ability, Saileach and Elysium are better dp printer.
      I don't know how you camed to believe that Myrtle was the "META of Vanguards", but the meta has always been "Flagpipe" not "Myrtlepipe".
      Elysium & Saileach are objectively better than Myrtle, this isn't an opinion, this is a fact.
      You can literally prove it by numbers, so i'm gonna quote you: "It's not that hard to swallow"
      Yes, there is that one situation where Myrtle using her skill 3 seconds earlier come in clutch, but this is such a specific and extremely rare sitatuation ! What kind of mental gymnastics made you believe that outperforming Elysium or Saileach 1 time out of 20 made her superior ? You're going to ignore the fact that she is straight up inferior 95% of the time ?
      Don't get me wrong, it's actually impressive for a 4 star to outperform a 6 star even if 1 time out of 20, but that doesn't make her better. You're gonna tell me that Silverash is stronger than Mlynar because 1 time out of 20 his helidrop potential outperform Mlynar ? It doesn't work that way, this is an enourmous bias.
      As for Cantabile & Ines, they aren't better dp generator than Myrtle, Elysium & Saileach except in the specific situation where they have constant ennemies to attack so i won't consider it here ( even tho it has way more chance of happening that Myrtle outperforming Saileach & Elysium btw ), but you seem to have totally forgotten that having utility isn't a fucking niche, needing flagbearer's dp generation is the actual niche.
      For Cantabile, decent damage and Fast redeploy in top of great dp generation make her already very valuable, but when you look at Ines i can't believe you looked at me straight in the eyes and told me that Myrtle is better.
      Like, hello: dps Fast Redploy, high dp generation, bind for 5 second on EVERY FUCKING ennemies hit, stealing atk & atk speed, large atk range, slow and invisibility reveal in range and can hit aerial units.
      She isn't as straigt foward as Myrtle, and you have to play correctly to use her efficiently but being harder to play isn't a flaw to her strenght, quite the opposite in fact.
      It seem that you and this video author have been mistaken, Myrtle better popularity over her higher rarity never was a question of performance but accessibility: She is available earlier and easier for new players, she is cheaper to raise & mastery, her pots are easier to get, she's featured in most low rarity guides ( cause that's kinda the point of a low rarity guide ) and most importantly she's dumb as fuck. like legit that's the main reason, most Arknights players don't want to turn on their brain and think, and an operator that work by just pressing a button > doing it's shit is what they crave. With Elysium or Saileach non first skills, you have to think a bit more on how to use them efficiently.
      So the real question isn't about who is stronger between Myrtle and Elysium or Saileach, cause that's just straight up Elysium and Saileach that's a fact, but more about "do i need to raise a very expensive 5 or 6 star to get a 10% efficiency increase on my Myrtle dp generation ?"
      The answer would be not really, if it's just for their skill 1 it's not that usefull, not because Myrtle does it better ( again, she doesn't ) but because she's enough most of the time ( and as i pointed it out you don't even need Myrtle dp generation a great deal of the time ).
      However, the utility they bring is miles above what Myrtle can bring, so if you plan to use their others skills they became way more valuable than Myrtle.
      But still, if you are trying to get the best possible pure dp generation with none of the bullshit, then Elysium and Saileach outperform Myrtle, sorry.

    • @tronco.3935
      @tronco.3935 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@Thalasseven Big brain here
      I can't believe they say Myrtle is the vanguard meta when we already know that Ines is the actual meta of vanguards, i mean, Bagpipe gives a pretty much essential effect and has very good dps, but the utilities of Ines really surpasses her, even the same Ines has a decent-to-good dps herself. I can't believe i got her in 20 pulls

  • @Nebvla
    @Nebvla 2 месяца назад

    No Jessica 😢

  • @charleshu1675
    @charleshu1675 6 месяцев назад +1

    I'm a deepcolordawg

    • @freakdeath1020
      @freakdeath1020 6 месяцев назад

      deepcolor got no love mostly by vet. players since she suffers from being a First-generation Summoner Supporters (Summoner Ops before Scene). But I like her using in IS since she's cheap. I have the module and I use Summoner supporters way better now that I know how to fkin use Magallan drones thanks to deepcolor's restrictive summoning condition. It takes a lot of Mental Map and IS Maps has been "looking-always-the-same" maps.

  • @burpium1767
    @burpium1767 6 месяцев назад +1

    I like how myrtle is straight up irreplaceable 😂😂😂

  • @salesberuang4448
    @salesberuang4448 6 месяцев назад +3

    I can replace Myrtle with saileach.

    • @RainForest-kq6rn
      @RainForest-kq6rn 6 месяцев назад +4

      You totally can. Myrtle is popular simply because she's cheap 😂

    • @salesberuang4448
      @salesberuang4448 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@RainForest-kq6rn Yes, exactly. 😂
      She's very cheap and can printing DP more early. But Ely and Saileach can printing more DP with extra ability for Supporting other allies.
      I preferly using them if there no DP regen problem. That's why i say Myrtle still can replacable.

    • @RainForest-kq6rn
      @RainForest-kq6rn 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@salesberuang4448 yeah lol. Sail is more expensive tho. I think ely is the best for normal players, in terms of investment and return. Sail's worth mostly came from her s3, which is unfortunately used mostly in cc 😞

    • @vdeverguetta8958
      @vdeverguetta8958 6 месяцев назад

      You can replace Myrtle with Saileach? Yeah, is Saileach better for DP than Myrtle? Hell no, so it's a bit pointless saying she gets replaced by Saileach

    • @salesberuang4448
      @salesberuang4448 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@vdeverguetta8958 make sure you compare them before you arguing someone. :))

  • @pedromar8598
    @pedromar8598 6 месяцев назад

    Pls don't say shinning is better than sussurro...

  • @mirukuuni_
    @mirukuuni_ 6 месяцев назад

    best 5 stars?

  • @Kingspoon
    @Kingspoon 6 месяцев назад +5

    Picking Sussurro over Perfumer?
    I continue being baffled by these youtuber 4* tier lists that ignore how stupidly broken Perfumer is. She has a niche that no higher tier healer currently has, map wide regeneration. At max level with full module she brings a kind of sustain that lets you clear map with a single 4* medic. She outheals the majority of other medics in raw numbers and can even heal 'unhealable' operators like Mudrock etc.
    Sussurro meanwhile is a bog standard healer. Absolutely not worth putting any resources in. Dime a dozen.