Rich Buckler was one of my favorite Fantastic 4 artists. When he passed I did a special show celebrating his life. One of the most underrated artists in the world of comics. Probably because he didn't stay with one title long enough to get established. I was actually in talks with Mr. Buckler before he passed on about doing a cover for one of my Karl Vincent Vampire Hunter comic books, sadly, he passed before that happened. But I'm glad you brought up how great an artist he was
Most jewish writers started to work on the comic book industry because as jews they weren't well recieved in mainstream writing circles. So maybe they kept their identities as hidden as possible. That's my theory at least. Can't wait to see the video about it. There's a novel by Michael Chabon about a couple of jewish comic book creators in the early years of the industry. It's called The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay, in case anyone's interested in the subject.
Since you mentioned science: one of my favourite uses of science in superhero comics is in Ganthet's tale, written by Larry Niven. So Hal Jordan is fighting characters who have green lantern powers. What he does is to use the redshift: he moves at close to light speed and fires the ring in the opposite direction, shifting the green light of the ring to yellow. This was a "science is AWESOME" moment for me.
bread boards can be soldered. a bread board reefer to a blank silicon board full of holes that electronics are soldered to or twisted on to for testing a circut, as oppose to a manufactured board that only has slot for the components its designed for .also you can solder just fine without oxygen assuming you use an electric solder iron
ray palmer is basically dcs punching bag. As he went through the stuff with gene louring mentioned. He also was the hero of tiny aliens and was with the princess. He than was exiled from the tiny aliens and his princess girlfriend died. Than after identity crisis he found a universe that was perfect and that ray palmer died. That universe was destroyed in countdown. Basically if ray palmer has any happiness it will be ruined soon.
Chris, yasher koach! (Good job.) I'm looking forward to the upcoming episode. Just to be super nitpicky, soldering doesnt actually involve flame like welding does, so I don't think that it would use more oxygen. Rich Buckler was a great artist. Check out his work on Fantastic Four. Chag sameach to all my fellow Jews, and happy holidays to all.
Ah, thanks for the clarification. Even if he isn't causing literal fire, he's putting some bad fumes into what little air is left. Not sure it's a good idea.
It can be difficult staying focused on these vintage comics stories while reading them from the perspective of 2022. Hawkgirl says “It’s all I *ever* think of” and immediately I’m distracted thinking about how surely the JLA must have full-time therapists on call to address the outrageous level of trauma they all face from their tragic origins and their daily experiences as costumed combat soldiers routinely battling planet-level threats. The 2020s make everything a bummer… Wrt Canary immediately grabbing the only suit, I think she recognized that she could rescue Hawkman with the suit, but she couldn't help much with repairs if she stayed inside. So before the orders were given she was already moving on what her contribution to the effort needed to be. And omg, the hands joke, perfect.
Issue #21 of "The Creeps," a current horror anthology series, has a Hanukkah story in it. You might want to check it out. "The Creeps" is published by Warrent Publishing in magazine format in B & W. It is styled after the old Warren Publishing title "Creepy."
Who is the inker? Bucklers work really varied depending on who was inking and to my eye this looks better than a lot of what I’ve seen by him at Marvel.
1) Stupidest nitpick, at 7:04 you said that Hawkman was shot in the arm, while the panel looks more like the laser grazed the arm and hit the wing. 2) A little different nitpick is at 9:26, when Atom said he was bread boarding, and Batman was doing the soldering. So for what we know, Ray is doing the right thing and Batman is just being an idiot. And soldering shouldn't use up oxygen, since the rod just heats up without flame to melt the solder, but it would add lead-nickle fumes to the air which would be really bad (so batman is being especially stupid here using a torch as opposed to a soldering rod). 3) As my own personal theory for why there aren't more Hanukkah stories in media in general, it's because the holiday is too religious. Maybe back when superhero comics were first becoming big (the 1930s/40s), you could use American antisemitism as an excuse, but by the '80s the Jews were a well excepted group by most of America (there will always be fringe groups, so let them speak their peace as we laugh at them like we laugh at flat-Earthers). You might argue that Christmas is really religious, but it's been integrated with so many pagan traditions and capitalistic spirit that you can't really claim it as a big religious thing. Think about big Christmas stories: they deal with spirit of family (not religious), the idea of charity (not religious), the Christmas tree (a pagan tradition), Santa Claus (more Coca-cola rather than religious, even though based off of Saint Nicklaus who's a catholic saint), and gift giving (not religious). You do have the occasional nativity story or angel in stories like Miracle on 34th Street, but they aren't the general idea of a Christmas story. But you cannot tell a Hanukkah story (by the way, google Hanukkah and Google does something neat) without the religious element, and you threaten to blaspheme the Jewish religion with that. If you blaspheme against Christianity, it's fine by societal standards since Christians are the majority. But since the Jews are an "oppressed group", you can't insult their religion now, while in the past you couldn't represent them since people hated them back then. tl;dr: Christmas is a capitalistic holiday, so it's cows aren't too sacred to do something with. Hanukkah is a religious holiday, so it's cows are too sacred to do something with.
Excellent episode as always! Might I suggest when you put in that Rich Buckler passes away in ‘this past May’ that you include the actual year? I know I’ve come to your show after it’s been going for several years so people who come to this in future may not look to see when the video was published to figure out when he died. Just a suggestion, love your vids!
sledgehama Good point. I’ll be more specific in the future. The video does show when it was posted but I’d like to make everything easy to digest. Thanks.
Wait!--What!? Buckler was great in the 70s! Checkout his Deathlok The Demolisher. This comic really tapped into those great cinematic tropes from the science fiction from the 1970s. If only they designed the Justice League movie on these great comics from the 70s. But I guess you saw the terrible movie by now. BTW. It's funny that you had to explain "Bread boarding"! Good review as always!
The Hawks have their bodies covered with some sort of protective covering, from their original appearance, that allows them to survive in space for 5 to 15 minutes, if memory serves. Also the JLA satellite was partially constructed by Thanagarian technology.
I know this is late, but... this story reminds me of the Hanukkah story I saw in a Marvel holiday special where Doc Samson is invited to tell the tale of Hanukkah to kids at a yeshiva. Unfortunately, things quickly break down as he tries to appeal to one particular kid by making Antiochus into an Ultron model and having Captain America, Spider-Man, and the Hulk fight alongside the Maccabees.
If Rich Buckler's artwork reminds you of Neal Adams and Jim Aparo, it's probably because he swiped from them, and several other artists. He's one of your better 'swipers', because it's not so obvious, but the result was that Buckler's artwork has a kind of 'generic-ness' to it that isn't always consistent, but usually gets the job done. As always, some inkers made him look better than other inkers. Frank McLaughlin's inks on this JLA story definitely did a good job on Buckler's pencils. I never *hated* Buckler's artwork, but he was never my first choice for artist, either. Oh, and 'gruff-voice' Batman really didn't come around until comics started to get darker and grimmer, after Frank Miller's Dark Knight.
Maybe publishers didn't create more Jewish-themed stories because they were worried that antisemitic jerks would cause problems. Or publishers figured that not a lot of there readers are Jewish so such stories might not sell enough.
Antiochus is pronounced "ant-EYE-ah-kuss" Also, it's really a shame about how the Jews who helped build comics up as a medium (Siegal, Shuster, Kirby, Lee, and so many more) had to deal with so much anti-Semitism in our culture, even into the 60's (hell, even today, at the fringes). Part of the subtext of Superman is that he's an outsider, like the two Jews who made him, who hides what he really is to fit in.
Thanks for the info. I realized there was simply too much history to address in this simple look at a rare Hanukkah issue but I'm looking forward to presenting my findings on Jews in comics history next month.
There's a Marvel holiday special, can't remember the number, which has a short story starred by Kitty Pryde set in Hannukah. It's not a great story, she basically explains prejudice and racism to a black girl, but it's another example I cant think of.
Deep in their hearts, they know they're following a defunct religion? Seriously, though, I've never understood Christian anti-Semitism. Jesus was a Jew, as were all of his apostles.
Best explanation I have is 'old money'. There are a number of very wealthy Jewish families that have a lot of wealth accumulated over generations. So, every generation has people who've had to watch a generation of Jewish kids inherit more wealth than they'll ever see in their lives simply because that particular family had accumulated some wealth a few generations, or many generations, prior. That's why Jewish people are often seen as greedy people who hoard wealth. In all honesty, from what I've heard Jewish people with tons of money are quite happy to spend their money, just not frivolously.
"Oh no, we only have one space suit left!" *proceeds to put on said space suit while others watch* "how are we gonna survive without them"
Rich Buckler was one of my favorite Fantastic 4 artists. When he passed I did a special show celebrating his life. One of the most underrated artists in the world of comics. Probably because he didn't stay with one title long enough to get established. I was actually in talks with Mr. Buckler before he passed on about doing a cover for one of my Karl Vincent Vampire Hunter comic books, sadly, he passed before that happened. But I'm glad you brought up how great an artist he was
Most jewish writers started to work on the comic book industry because as jews they weren't well recieved in mainstream writing circles. So maybe they kept their identities as hidden as possible. That's my theory at least. Can't wait to see the video about it. There's a novel by Michael Chabon about a couple of jewish comic book creators in the early years of the industry. It's called The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay, in case anyone's interested in the subject.
That is absolutely a component. And Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay is one of my all-time favorite novels.
Walter O. As Kai they were writing to a mostly Main Street / main stream American audience . It was the same thing in all media at this time
@biggs949597 s Ever heard of a period?
Since you mentioned science: one of my favourite uses of science in superhero comics is in Ganthet's tale, written by Larry Niven. So Hal Jordan is fighting characters who have green lantern powers. What he does is to use the redshift: he moves at close to light speed and fires the ring in the opposite direction, shifting the green light of the ring to yellow. This was a "science is AWESOME" moment for me.
Wait . Larry niven the mana guy wrote comics?
Rich Buckler did a lot of great work on Fantastic Four in the 70s.
Great art!
Looked into Rich Buckler a bit, fantastic artist! Thanks for the tip.
bread boards can be soldered. a bread board reefer to a blank silicon board full of holes that electronics are soldered to or twisted on to for testing a circut, as oppose to a manufactured board that only has slot for the components its designed for .also you can solder just fine without oxygen assuming you use an electric solder iron
Good points, except for that last bit. We clearly see Batman use a torch to solder.
ray palmer is basically dcs punching bag. As he went through the stuff with gene louring mentioned. He also was the hero of tiny aliens and was with the princess. He than was exiled from the tiny aliens and his princess girlfriend died. Than after identity crisis he found a universe that was perfect and that ray palmer died. That universe was destroyed in countdown. Basically if ray palmer has any happiness it will be ruined soon.
Rich Buckler rocked. Always loved his art.
Chris, yasher koach! (Good job.) I'm looking forward to the upcoming episode.
Just to be super nitpicky, soldering doesnt actually involve flame like welding does, so I don't think that it would use more oxygen.
Rich Buckler was a great artist. Check out his work on Fantastic Four.
Chag sameach to all my fellow Jews, and happy holidays to all.
Ah, thanks for the clarification. Even if he isn't causing literal fire, he's putting some bad fumes into what little air is left. Not sure it's a good idea.
It can be difficult staying focused on these vintage comics stories while reading them from the perspective of 2022. Hawkgirl says “It’s all I *ever* think of” and immediately I’m distracted thinking about how surely the JLA must have full-time therapists on call to address the outrageous level of trauma they all face from their tragic origins and their daily experiences as costumed combat soldiers routinely battling planet-level threats. The 2020s make everything a bummer…
Wrt Canary immediately grabbing the only suit, I think she recognized that she could rescue Hawkman with the suit, but she couldn't help much with repairs if she stayed inside. So before the orders were given she was already moving on what her contribution to the effort needed to be.
And omg, the hands joke, perfect.
Issue #21 of "The Creeps," a current horror anthology series, has a Hanukkah story in it. You might want to check it out. "The Creeps" is published by Warrent Publishing in magazine format in B & W. It is styled after the old Warren Publishing title "Creepy."
Another classic video. Thanks
Who is the inker? Bucklers work really varied depending on who was inking and to my eye this looks better than a lot of what I’ve seen by him at Marvel.
I think that, during WWII, Jewish comic creators might have kept a low profile. Either intentionally, or not. Just my theory.
Buckler and also Ross Andru I always thought were super underrated.
Aw Teh creator of Deathlok passed away back in 2017... just picked up some comics of his line-up and been enjoying it, hope he's resting in peace.
1) Stupidest nitpick, at 7:04 you said that Hawkman was shot in the arm, while the panel looks more like the laser grazed the arm and hit the wing.
2) A little different nitpick is at 9:26, when Atom said he was bread boarding, and Batman was doing the soldering. So for what we know, Ray is doing the right thing and Batman is just being an idiot. And soldering shouldn't use up oxygen, since the rod just heats up without flame to melt the solder, but it would add lead-nickle fumes to the air which would be really bad (so batman is being especially stupid here using a torch as opposed to a soldering rod).
3) As my own personal theory for why there aren't more Hanukkah stories in media in general, it's because the holiday is too religious. Maybe back when superhero comics were first becoming big (the 1930s/40s), you could use American antisemitism as an excuse, but by the '80s the Jews were a well excepted group by most of America (there will always be fringe groups, so let them speak their peace as we laugh at them like we laugh at flat-Earthers). You might argue that Christmas is really religious, but it's been integrated with so many pagan traditions and capitalistic spirit that you can't really claim it as a big religious thing. Think about big Christmas stories: they deal with spirit of family (not religious), the idea of charity (not religious), the Christmas tree (a pagan tradition), Santa Claus (more Coca-cola rather than religious, even though based off of Saint Nicklaus who's a catholic saint), and gift giving (not religious). You do have the occasional nativity story or angel in stories like Miracle on 34th Street, but they aren't the general idea of a Christmas story. But you cannot tell a Hanukkah story (by the way, google Hanukkah and Google does something neat) without the religious element, and you threaten to blaspheme the Jewish religion with that. If you blaspheme against Christianity, it's fine by societal standards since Christians are the majority. But since the Jews are an "oppressed group", you can't insult their religion now, while in the past you couldn't represent them since people hated them back then.
tl;dr: Christmas is a capitalistic holiday, so it's cows aren't too sacred to do something with. Hanukkah is a religious holiday, so it's cows are too sacred to do something with.
Excellent episode as always! Might I suggest when you put in that Rich Buckler passes away in ‘this past May’ that you include the actual year? I know I’ve come to your show after it’s been going for several years so people who come to this in future may not look to see when the video was published to figure out when he died. Just a suggestion, love your vids!
sledgehama Good point. I’ll be more specific in the future. The video does show when it was posted but I’d like to make everything easy to digest. Thanks.
Wait!--What!? Buckler was great in the 70s! Checkout his Deathlok The Demolisher. This comic really tapped into those great cinematic tropes from the science fiction from the 1970s. If only they designed the Justice League movie on these great comics from the 70s. But I guess you saw the terrible movie by now. BTW. It's funny that you had to explain "Bread boarding"! Good review as always!
The Hawks have their bodies covered with some sort of protective covering, from their original appearance, that allows them to survive in space for 5 to 15 minutes, if memory serves.
Also the JLA satellite was partially constructed by Thanagarian technology.
Love the Batman voice
Interesting the Watchtower was so low on supplies. Still a cool and fun story with a pretty well-done metaphor.
Perhaps we should see Wonder Woman and Aquaman in a Saturnalia holiday story. The festival which Christmas was created to replace.
I have a Wonder Woman review where the Amazons actually do celebrate a more pagan version of Christmas.
I know this is late, but... this story reminds me of the Hanukkah story I saw in a Marvel holiday special where Doc Samson is invited to tell the tale of Hanukkah to kids at a yeshiva. Unfortunately, things quickly break down as he tries to appeal to one particular kid by making Antiochus into an Ultron model and having Captain America, Spider-Man, and the Hulk fight alongside the Maccabees.
If Rich Buckler's artwork reminds you of Neal Adams and Jim Aparo, it's probably because he swiped from them, and several other artists. He's one of your better 'swipers', because it's not so obvious, but the result was that Buckler's artwork has a kind of 'generic-ness' to it that isn't always consistent, but usually gets the job done. As always, some inkers made him look better than other inkers. Frank McLaughlin's inks on this JLA story definitely did a good job on Buckler's pencils. I never *hated* Buckler's artwork, but he was never my first choice for artist, either.
Oh, and 'gruff-voice' Batman really didn't come around until comics started to get darker and grimmer, after Frank Miller's Dark Knight.
Yeah, it was a joke
Maybe publishers didn't create more Jewish-themed stories because they were worried that antisemitic jerks would cause problems. Or publishers figured that not a lot of there readers are Jewish so such stories might not sell enough.
The Atom kickass
Ha, I have this issue! It is a good comic.
Antiochus is pronounced "ant-EYE-ah-kuss"
Also, it's really a shame about how the Jews who helped build comics up as a medium (Siegal, Shuster, Kirby, Lee, and so many more) had to deal with so much anti-Semitism in our culture, even into the 60's (hell, even today, at the fringes). Part of the subtext of Superman is that he's an outsider, like the two Jews who made him, who hides what he really is to fit in.
Thanks for the info. I realized there was simply too much history to address in this simple look at a rare Hanukkah issue but I'm looking forward to presenting my findings on Jews in comics history next month.
Superman's kryptonian name is Hebrew 😋
Very cool story.
There's a Marvel holiday special, can't remember the number, which has a short story starred by Kitty Pryde set in Hannukah. It's not a great story, she basically explains prejudice and racism to a black girl, but it's another example I cant think of.
It's likely I read it as a kid but the fact I don't remember that at all might speak to its quality.
The l in "soldering" is silent. Sod-er-ing. you use solder, which is pronounced saw-der.
Even moar rare, Legends of Tomorrow and now that I think of it Sandman both did a Ramadan episode although subplots in both.
Justice League seriously Slummingzzz
I'm thinking the writer put in the time to get the science right, the artist maybe not so much.
You should do video on Alt hero comic. Comics for the Nazi Trumper Americans. It was crowd funded by big money, and is selling on Amazon now.
Arthur Teaches the Tick About Hannukah or Jews Are Mighty!
Please stop saying "soldering"...
WHY NOT MANY JEWISH CHARACTERS?
they're still a minority... and those boys know how to sell!!!!!
that's why all the GENTILE action!!!
Deep in their hearts, they know they're following a defunct religion? Seriously, though, I've never understood Christian anti-Semitism. Jesus was a Jew, as were all of his apostles.
Best explanation I have is 'old money'. There are a number of very wealthy Jewish families that have a lot of wealth accumulated over generations. So, every generation has people who've had to watch a generation of Jewish kids inherit more wealth than they'll ever see in their lives simply because that particular family had accumulated some wealth a few generations, or many generations, prior.
That's why Jewish people are often seen as greedy people who hoard wealth. In all honesty, from what I've heard Jewish people with tons of money are quite happy to spend their money, just not frivolously.
Your politics are showing.
So are yours
@@alphatrion100 So are yours
Yeah those Xmas stories,well written by Jewish people but want to sell as many as possible Christians,Christian country,get it.