From a practical sense, I understand that decent new gear gives you a better chance at having more flex, the correct blade curve, etc. but how much of it really comes down to the shooting technique and good strength and conditioning? Same for decent skates vs. top of line skates (if they are both using LS2 blades, how much difference is there?)
@@Colbyw74 Some gear is just too much. Over topped pants are pretty crap for movement and I remember having RBK 9K elbow pads, forgot one home and borrowed my friends 11K's and I couldn't even get my arm straight. Fucking horrible, had to go back to swap someone elses pads who werent on ice that day.
So sad my playing days were ended by an injury before the Carbon Fiber era. On the other hand, the prices would have bankrupted me. Got to handle a stick and lift a pair of new skates. Just one of my old Bauer 2000's weighs twice as much as a pair of new skates and a stick. You people are so lucky (and probably broke).
Same, also had Sherwood and Christians. The "M9" was my blade of choice for most sticks. Started with a Northland with a straight blade, then moving on to Canadians, 6001 & 7001, before moving onto aluminum. A bunch of years back, went into the pro shop at local rink and asked the two "kids" that were working there, if they still sold replacement blades for the aluminums? The look on their faces was priceless, as in, what planet are you from? Oh, by the way, I was there to finally replace my precious 651 Vak Tacks.
@@davidschumaker8107 I played with hand me down gear for years , my dad had a pair of those armadillo thumb gloves but thankfully I never had to use those 😁
@@Govanmauler I'm almost 62, and my 1st gloves were just a bit newer than those gloves. Not sure of what brand they were, but they did have a small steel plate in the thumb, which eventually wore thru the leather. Removed the laces due to restriction and found out rather quickly that you needed to wear thin winter gloves inside of your hockey gloves when playing pond hockey in upstate NY, frostbite sucks!
I used a ccm rocker hook, bugger was really heavy and flexed amazingly in the early 70’s. it was probably the best for me at the time. I also used a straight stick like Dave Keon for stick handling and back hand shots, until I was 13 years of age.
I used the Red Titan before the white one came out. I think they discontinued it because it was hard to break. The 1st generation Red one was used and endorsed by Gretzky in 1980-81.
I am getting back into hockey joining a beer leauge after 15 years of not playing since Highschool Ice hockey. When I went to the pro shop I was in the future. Fucking Space age technology it was crazy.
Yes, Titans were made in Finland. I think there's a documentary here in youtube about it. If I remember correctly it was some Master of Science - engineer who thought he could make a good hockey stick using early sort of composite stick materials wood stregthened by fiber glass, his background was manufacturing sports equipment but mainly (cross country) skis. Sticks being good at the time were elevated by their colorful / red theme at a time when sticks were mainly unfinished wood without graphics. edit: 3:27 funnily enough I think CCM purchased Titan so they did look in to the "ultra glass" 😂😂
all due respect the the greats of history but if you put modern goalies in their nhl they probably get 1/2 as many points. not to mention the fact that the skill difference between the top and bottom players that used to be massive isn't really that big anymore. they were great players for sure but they are also a product of their time.
those aluminum sticks were sick but the best stick i ever used was a nike shaft with an easton carbon blade. this is like the last year before the old times ended and before synergy's took over.
My son used the same set up. Couldn’t pry the Bauer shaft out of his hands. He broke two blades in one game and had to get a blade from a teammate and it was an Easter blade already taped. Never looked back. He said he loved how rigid the Easton blade was. I can’t remember the flex of his shaft. (Nobody get dirty) He had a Mission and one other stick but he never liked either.
I loved this video. I just opened up the last two Montréal sticks with the M95 blade from back in my prep hockey days 22 years ago. Had to slap on the ol Vick mitts and shoot a few.. Still a great stick!
my favourite pattern was the titan Gretzky model until titan changed it to Ryan Smith which was Gretzky's original pattern , wooden sticks are far more durable and cheaper than todays stick , I was not going to buy hockey sticks made in Mexico .
I think there is an argument here for wearing something for the "essence." Since we live in a throw away culture the thought of repairing a worn out jersey or stick is not really at the forefront of players mind. But I like to keep vintage trinkets for the history, the story! Also to remember we are living off of the momentum of those that came before us! #blackhistoryhockey #blackhistorymonth #hockeylife #BHM
I have on my wall an EPOKSYD SUPER vintage hockey stick without a curve with literally no flex. I think this twig is around 80 years old? I dont know but its very old hockey stick.
No offense but neither of you can do a vintage stick justice....body position all wrong..ur pushing the puck...drag n snap or drag n wrist.....it's a different shooting style than with composite...watch some NHL from 30 yrs ago...joe sakic..,Wendell Clark...
So, these guys have a bit of strength. What I've noticed is, noodle-armed kids have snipes because of the tech and trust me, I'm old enough to have played against wood/aluminum rocking shooters. Slappers may have been acceptable, but this corner picking snot rocket stuff just wasn't happening unless you had arms.
Leather Tacks with nylon toes, Cooper leather gloves and a wooden Koho stick, which was way lighter than the Northland I used prior. Ah, the early 1970s…
I played goal, we didn't even get to have a curve in our stick so trying to score a goal by using your leg as a fulcrum and flipping the puck was the only option, I was lucky to get it through the neutral zone. Goalie sticks didn't have curved blades until the mid-80s, Patrick Roy (1986) is the first goalie I recall using a curved blade.
I started out playing defence at 6 years old, only scored 6 goals over 4 years so sniping was never a thing for me. I could hit the puck pretty hard, just couldn't aim to well like Foggy Nelson when he played for the Mighty Ducks.
I wanted a TPS Response so bad but my parents would never lol. Eventually got an aluminum two piece lmao. I wanted to get the synergy blade but you know, money again.
At the end of the day the equipment is only good enough in the right hands. Yeah the game has got faster and the kit lighter, like soccer if you put an old football (soccer ball) at the feet of a professional soccer player they may well break their ankles trying to kick it. So not everything old is bad, sometimes they were much better than the new.
honestly man, i have more heat on my slapshot with a wood stick. but for everything else newer sticks are better. well maybe a wood sticks better for slashing lol
Using a good 30$ wood stick, no stupid bouce on the blade with a pass. On the ice on faceoff, it stick down hard to lift, Use rigth curve and ou grind the ice like a knife. I hate stickhandling with flex one piece stick, it's basicly trying to control a "unsteady puck" bounce.
Gretzky going from Titan to aluminum took many goals from his career number. Aluminum sticks were terrible for shooting , but I suspect he was getting a generous check to use it.
Why does Hayden look like the character in "lady in the water" that only works out with his left arm... I knew a guy who worked construction as a framer and you could tell he could only hammer w his right arm...number
Got a brand new Titan TPM signed by LaFontaine when I was 10 hanging on my wall.
La la la la laFontaine!!!, rj is a legend
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Finland!!!
The gear may be vintage, but these ja-kasses are not.
The old wooden sticks were definitely better for slashing and cross checking 😅
Made in Finland, Suomi mainittu PERKELE torille!!!
Torillee!! Oon vuoden myöhäs😅
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From a practical sense, I understand that decent new gear gives you a better chance at having more flex, the correct blade curve, etc. but how much of it really comes down to the shooting technique and good strength and conditioning? Same for decent skates vs. top of line skates (if they are both using LS2 blades, how much difference is there?)
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a huge difference in sticks and gloves and ESPECIALLY protective gear is night and day for practicality and safety which is the most important part
@@Colbyw74 Some gear is just too much. Over topped pants are pretty crap for movement and I remember having RBK 9K elbow pads, forgot one home and borrowed my friends 11K's and I couldn't even get my arm straight. Fucking horrible, had to go back to swap someone elses pads who werent on ice that day.
@@PoorCoyotee ya i hate big elbow pads
In sticks it revolutionary it’s almost completely different technique ..
So sad my playing days were ended by an injury before the Carbon Fiber era. On the other hand, the prices would have bankrupted me. Got to handle a stick and lift a pair of new skates. Just one of my old Bauer 2000's weighs twice as much as a pair of new skates and a stick. You people are so lucky (and probably broke).
Those old Bauer supreme 1000, 2000, 3000 were awesome skate
350 for a stick? C'moon. BAUER X60 was like 150 and top of the line 10 years ago.
I played with titan 2020 and later the 4020. We made our own cuved blades by heating them up.
Me: Sees Jeremy upload
My hand: I’m fast as frick boi
Damn man I'm so old I remember the Easton alus being cutting edge
Same, also had Sherwood and Christians. The "M9" was my blade of choice for most sticks. Started with a Northland with a straight blade, then moving on to Canadians, 6001 & 7001, before moving onto aluminum. A bunch of years back, went into the pro shop at local rink and asked the two "kids" that were working there, if they still sold replacement blades for the aluminums? The look on their faces was priceless, as in, what planet are you from? Oh, by the way, I was there to finally replace my precious 651 Vak Tacks.
@@davidschumaker8107 I played with hand me down gear for years , my dad had a pair of those armadillo thumb gloves but thankfully I never had to use those 😁
@@Govanmauler I'm almost 62, and my 1st gloves were just a bit newer than those gloves. Not sure of what brand they were, but they did have a small steel plate in the thumb, which eventually wore thru the leather. Removed the laces due to restriction and found out rather quickly that you needed to wear thin winter gloves inside of your hockey gloves when playing pond hockey in upstate NY, frostbite sucks!
the easton aluminum rattled my hands so bad, it caused the pain i feel today lol.
I used a ccm rocker hook, bugger was really heavy and flexed amazingly in the early 70’s. it was probably the best for me at the time. I also used a straight stick like Dave Keon for stick handling and back hand shots, until I was 13 years of age.
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I used the Red Titan before the white one came out. I think they discontinued it because it was hard to break. The 1st generation Red one was used and endorsed by Gretzky in 1980-81.
Goalies reely sucked back then
I am getting back into hockey joining a beer leauge after 15 years of not playing since Highschool Ice hockey.
When I went to the pro shop I was in the future. Fucking Space age technology it was crazy.
At 2:30 nobody gonna talk about the puck exploding
I will only use a real all wood stick. Sherwood is my preferred stick.
I’ve goon from a sherwood wooden stick to a Sherwood composite
coffey blade is what I've used, have a bunch of carbon warrior sticks and still use the old Sherwood featherlite
Yup sHERWOOD PMP 5020.
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Yes, Titans were made in Finland. I think there's a documentary here in youtube about it. If I remember correctly it was some Master of Science - engineer who thought he could make a good hockey stick using early sort of composite stick materials wood stregthened by fiber glass, his background was manufacturing sports equipment but mainly (cross country) skis. Sticks being good at the time were elevated by their colorful / red theme at a time when sticks were mainly unfinished wood without graphics.
edit: 3:27 funnily enough I think CCM purchased Titan so they did look in to the "ultra glass" 😂😂
I’m getting really tired of everyone dissing on goalies
Same I’m a goalie it gets so annoying
Dont be so weird then.
@tomace194 have some fun every once in a while, and maybe we will
theres this one goalie that actually sucks at my rink
Womp womp
all due respect the the greats of history but if you put modern goalies in their nhl they probably get 1/2 as many points. not to mention the fact that the skill difference between the top and bottom players that used to be massive isn't really that big anymore. they were great players for sure but they are also a product of their time.
New gear is definitely better than old gear.
Never clicked so fast
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@@CoachJeremy thanks for responding you are like my favorite youtuber
Honestly I think the goalies just sucked back then they did not know about a poke check or a butterfly like the the goalies today.
I used the kind that you can change the blade. Often made sure that I had an illegal curve.
Hey nice video, but I wanted to ask if it is bad to practice with a Hockey Ball to stick handle
those aluminum sticks were sick but the best stick i ever used was a nike shaft with an easton carbon blade. this is like the last year before the old times ended and before synergy's took over.
My son used the same set up. Couldn’t pry the Bauer shaft out of his hands. He broke two blades in one game and had to get a blade from a teammate and it was an Easter blade already taped. Never looked back. He said he loved how rigid the Easton blade was. I can’t remember the flex of his shaft. (Nobody get dirty) He had a Mission and one other stick but he never liked either.
Those old leather gloves help if you get slashed and not much else.
Funny as video. Love the old school gloves and I bet they smell fresh as 🤣😂🤣
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You are canadian or american?
Define irony.
I am Canadian and I refuse to wear ROOTS!
Yaaa Bobby
I loved this video. I just opened up the last two Montréal sticks with the M95 blade from back in my prep hockey days 22 years ago. Had to slap on the ol Vick mitts and shoot a few.. Still a great stick!
my favourite pattern was the titan Gretzky model until titan changed it to Ryan Smith which was Gretzky's original pattern , wooden sticks are far more durable and cheaper than todays stick , I was not going to buy hockey sticks made in Mexico .
Im from finland🇫🇮
Let's make this a challenge in the Allstars game. All old equipment
Eeyyyyy suomi🇫🇮‐finland🇫🇮🥳🥳🥳🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮
I think there is an argument here for wearing something for the "essence." Since we live in a throw away culture the thought of repairing a worn out jersey or stick is not really at the forefront of players mind. But I like to keep vintage trinkets for the history, the story! Also to remember we are living off of the momentum of those that came before us! #blackhistoryhockey #blackhistorymonth #hockeylife #BHM
What does this have to do with black history Month💀
Honestly if Wayne Gretzky and the others had modern day gear they would be like a cheat code.
I think the opposite. I think that modern day players would walk all over those guys
I have on my wall an EPOKSYD SUPER vintage hockey stick without a curve with literally no flex. I think this twig is around 80 years old? I dont know but its very old hockey stick.
Calling aluminum Easton sticks vintage really makes me feel old.
So wait. An NHLer would use a stick with torn up tape?
What buttendz grib does Haden use
the battlemode sticks are super cool
I know right!
Wow my first stick when I was a kid was an aluminum Easton! Totally forgot about that stick!
I had one too!
We would put wicked curves on our plastic bladed street hockey sticks by shoving the blades into sewer grates to bend them. Real vintage.
the gloves are actually cool
I grew up with Titan sticks, Sher-Wood sticks and Easton sticks. I actually had the Easton Instinct stick. Lol
I actually know a couple guys that prefer wood over the new twigs, they have better control. I use wood as well cuz I snap woods less than carbons
Glad I live in Finland😂😂
Can you please update i snipe
Not to mention what are skates were like in the 60’s….😂😂😂😂
Wohoo finland called out
No offense but neither of you can do a vintage stick justice....body position all wrong..ur pushing the puck...drag n snap or drag n wrist.....it's a different shooting style than with composite...watch some NHL from 30 yrs ago...joe sakic..,Wendell Clark...
Titan is owned by CCM
Still got a titan 🤘
So, these guys have a bit of strength. What I've noticed is, noodle-armed kids have snipes because of the tech and trust me, I'm old enough to have played against wood/aluminum rocking shooters. Slappers may have been acceptable, but this corner picking snot rocket stuff just wasn't happening unless you had arms.
"Nike-Bauer vintage gloves" - frick I am old. Nike bought Bauer and started making gear I had just finished playing in Midget.
🤚 3:35 - British man here, cheers mate 💂🏒
Leather Tacks with nylon toes, Cooper leather gloves and a wooden Koho stick, which was way lighter than the Northland I used prior. Ah, the early 1970s…
Best stick was either the jagr black magic or Gretzky shinny Easton. Plus wood stick heat up for own curves
I played goal, we didn't even get to have a curve in our stick so trying to score a goal by using your leg as a fulcrum and flipping the puck was the only option, I was lucky to get it through the neutral zone. Goalie sticks didn't have curved blades until the mid-80s, Patrick Roy (1986) is the first goalie I recall using a curved blade.
I started out playing defence at 6 years old, only scored 6 goals over 4 years so sniping was never a thing for me. I could hit the puck pretty hard, just couldn't aim to well like Foggy Nelson when he played for the Mighty Ducks.
I wanted a TPS Response so bad but my parents would never lol. Eventually got an aluminum two piece lmao. I wanted to get the synergy blade but you know, money again.
I dont know bro, Ovechkin just needs to put up 67 more goals. Even though hes slowing downx he can do that it 2 or 3 more seasons.
those old gloves wouldnt be so stiff if they had been taken care off... oil them up, recondition the leather and they will move and flex ALOT more
At the end of the day the equipment is only good enough in the right hands. Yeah the game has got faster and the kit lighter, like soccer if you put an old football (soccer ball) at the feet of a professional soccer player they may well break their ankles trying to kick it.
So not everything old is bad, sometimes they were much better than the new.
honestly man, i have more heat on my slapshot with a wood stick. but for everything else newer sticks are better. well maybe a wood sticks better for slashing lol
i prefer a wooden stick, just feels right in my hands for how i play, probably because i started out doing shinty
Those gloves with that Lemeuix stick are total wrong era though, those gloves are 70s or earlier. You should get some Jofa gloves !
Your vids are good enough my dad enjoys them 👍
If you can't snipe with any gear, we'll then you should just pack up and go home.
Wood is where it began,sure you can snipe,just ask Bobby hull.
Sherwood had first composite at 200 bucks in the late 90’s
Those titans were great for road hockey cuz the blade didnt break apart.
goalies still letting in 9 goals a game today. what isnt happening is ovi scoring 40 years ago.
what cool glasses this guy has, what kind of company?
Skill will always supersede technology.
1:05 Let's piss off Doug ford he's being a jerk!!
I have 2 of mario lemuex’s hockey sticks
Very happy to see a coach Jeremy video!
wood sticks have way better feel on the puck
I need to find a tps response
Hi coach Jeremy
youre so good keep up the good work
@coachjeremy where is this facility your at
Wait hold on why the hell is the net backwards lol
Mario lemiuex brother alain lemiuex is my coach
So is that ford doing loads of cocaine too?????🤣🤣
Try the stick and the gloves in hockey
I live in Finland im not good but i love u and Hockey
Using a good 30$ wood stick, no stupid bouce on the blade with a pass. On the ice on faceoff, it stick down hard to lift, Use rigth curve and ou grind the ice like a knife. I hate stickhandling with flex one piece stick, it's basicly trying to control a "unsteady puck" bounce.
The tenders could not even stop a beach ball
Gretzky going from Titan to aluminum took many goals from his career number. Aluminum sticks were terrible for shooting , but I suspect he was getting a generous check to use it.
and he postssss!!!!!
I’m 16 and rock Nike Bauer gloves, they were my cousins hand me downs, but man I love them, my hands feel so free in them and no restrictions
Wayne Gretzky did use aluminum sticks for a time
@jeremy Look at skates next..if skate technology and build is so good why were there faster skaters in the 70s and 80 compared to now?
Why does Hayden look like the character in "lady in the water" that only works out with his left arm... I knew a guy who worked construction as a framer and you could tell he could only hammer w his right arm...number
fun vid, the old leather gloves molded to your hands especially when sweaty. those old Titan sticks were pretty stiff as I recall.