Thank you sir, my entire fish room has been filterless for over a year and wanted to remove it in this tank as well and thought this was the perfect opportunity to show everyone there are other ways. Which is why I love your channel… you always challenge us to think outside the box.. Thank you for watching it’s much appreciated 😁👍
And when ever you get time..plz make video or a experimental tank for Red colour plants in low tech tank....I never had a success with red plants in my low tech tank ....thanks 👍
@@GrzzlyJon it’s doing awesome, beyond my expectations actually. Thanks for asking. It’s still sitting at 10ppm nitrates, plants are still growing crazy as well. I will probably do an update video in a couple months 😁👍
@@pattys_aquatics that’s very interesting how the nitrates stay that low! I’m thinking of removing my filter on my tank but am alittle nervous. Any recommendations?
@@GrzzlyJon I would suggest having plenty of live plants, test your water daily at first, then keep testing to monitor the parameters. Other than that don’t be nervous! I realize it’s been imprinted in our brains that you must use filters.. There are in most situations alternatives and this is one of them. Let me know if you have any other questions! I’m here to help😁👍
Thank you Mal, I said it in another comment but was hesitant to remove it in this tank because of it being in my main living area and wanting it to look pristine but my other tanks are crystal clear so figured it was time. Everyone’s situations are different obviously but I love the no filter tanks. Thanks for watching friend😁👍
I think this is a great video that makes you think, this way is def cheaper haha! All our ponds/tubs we have always taken this approach and never even use aeration.... never had a problem, just never thought about the same approach in indoor aquariums, doesn't make sense! Thanks for your videos and tests bud!!
I completely agree. By everything we as hobbyists ever read or done research on this should not be possible. My water parameters should be through the roof and my puffer dead. Yet here I am with 10ppm nitrate and 0 ammonia and nitrite and my tank is thriving. That’s why I always like to try and read and research different things because there are always different ways to do things. Thanks for watching and for your support it means alot to me 😁👍
@@pattys_aquatics my tap water comes out way way higher than that haha! so I do water changes rarely and always feel terrible based on the status quo lol!! back in the day 40 years ago I don’t remember my old man doing any water changes, ever…So I definitely appreciate your experience and videos and one of the reasons I find your channel so interesting (and your screen presence)! Keep doing what ur doing bud it’s honestly inspiring and anything like this that brings the maintenance time and overall financial input down of the hobby most of us put in makes it more appealing in general to a wider community, so everything your doing and explaining gets two thumbs up from us! Always learning thanks to people like you 👍👍it all makes sense but over the years i guess like most people we have been conditioned to believe we need todo certain things (ironically by the people that profit of selling filtration)🙄! Keep it up ur rocking bud!!!
@@Aquadiction you hit the nail on the head with being conditioned to believe how things should be by the people selling the products. Thank you for your kind words , I’m just a guy trying to show what I’m doing and if I can help people along the way even better. Cause I know watching people on here helped me as well👍😁
Excellent Job..I have really never followed rules. Some of my ponds run on only bog filtration. I also liked that you said you do this and werent trying to say yours is the only way. Good on you! I like water movement simply because of the fish I keep. Very Impressive and honest
Thank you Stubbs, yes there is no one way Or correct way to do something. I , as you , don’t like to follow the line that’s supposed to be followed unless I feel that’s the right path. I appreciate your support and thank you for watching 😁👍
Very interesting and boldly courageous, until i get a bunch more plant in the tanks i will use fitration, mostly sponge filters that being said, its spark a lot of interest great topic patty! Have a great weekend 🙂👍🏻
Thanks Jeff, filtration is a necessary entity in an aquarium, it’s just how you want to do it. Filter no filter it’s up to every individual hobbyist how you want to do it and just thinking outside the box sometimes brings great results. Thanks for watching 😁👍
I absolutely love your tank. And I love the no filter idea. I started a dirted tank from watching your videos and the no filter approach I think is next. Thank you Patty 👍
Thank you very much and I’m honored I could help you in any way. I definitely love the no filter tanks and love the looks of my tanks with them. Thanks for watching 😁👍
Interesting experiment! Like Stubbs, I also really appreciate how you pointed out that this is just what you're doing and this is not the *only* right way. Plants are an excellent filter. I may have told you this already, but I experimented with filterless (meaning I forgot to plug the filter back in after a wc for almost a week) in one of my heavily planted tanks. I kind of freaked out when I realized and thought I had killed my cycle, but to my surprise I had 10-15ppm nitrate, 0 nitrite, and 0 ammonia. Part of me thought I just got lucky so I plugged it back in because I'm scared of going filterless. But it really did get my wheels turning. Baby steps for me, lol. Maybe someday I'll be brave and try it for real like you! Your tiger lotus looks *amazing* ! Hope you have a good weekend and thank you for this interesting topic and the way you presented it 🙂👍👍
Thank you Tara , yes there are an endless different ways to do just about anything in this hobby and life , I would never push what Im doing as the only or right way. What works for me may not work for someone else. 😁 I have actually found it interesting that even with my fish room tanks since I removed the filters I don’t have nitrate issues anymore. It’s actually the opposite of never having enough of what they say you should have for a planted tank. Thanks for watching and I love that tiger lotus as well, very vibrant, have an awesome weekend 😁👍
I have some no filter, some sponge filter, and one with a hang-on-back. The one with the HOB is my pair of bristlenose plecos with their babies. That tank was GROSS without a filter. Just constant brown clouds of mulm to the point where the water was dark. This seems to happen to any tank I add a pleco to, even babies. The filter clears it right up, but of course, now need to clean the filter weekly. On the other hand, I just took a HOB filter off another 20 gallon I have. It actually made a mess, instead of cleaning up a mess. It was blowing debris into the plants, where it would be stuck, and then grow algae in the plants because of the debris. I added an established sponge filter before removing the HOB so there wouldn’t be a sudden removal of beneficial bacteria. It’s transitioned fine, and plants are coming back without algae all over them. How often do you do water changes on your no filter tanks? I tried no water changes for a long time, and while the fish were totally fine, the plants were just not growing much in several tanks, and water changes helped. So with water changes, it also depends on the tank for me. I think if I wasn’t breeding and selling plants, so constantly removing plants and fish, the tanks would maybe balance better. Hopefully some day I’ll have room for some display tanks that I would think would stay more stable without always removing things or adding things.
With removing the filter from this tank I currently don’t have any running with mechanical filtration any longer. Although all of them except this one and my goldfish tub are dirted tanks. As far as water changes, with all my tanks in my fish room I don’t necessarily have to do water changes because they always stay at 10ppm or below in nitrate but I try to do a 15%ish change every month or two. I don’t gravel vac or anything either just exchange water from the top. With this tank I haven’t decided yet. Currently it still sits at 10ppm nitrate since I filmed this and the plants are growing bonkers. Every tank , hobbyist and situation is different but though obviously. I find I have to do less maintenance with my dirted filterless tanks which is not supposed to be the case of you follow all the “RULES” 😂 Thanks for watching 😁👍
Love the video, is this a dirted tank? I’m always looking for different ways to do my aquariums and have always been afraid to go without a filter but after watching this I might try it.
Thank you! No this is not a dirted tank. I also have a 100 gallon goldfish pond that is not dirted that I run without filtration. It definitely can be done in a lot of situations it’s just typically not the norm of what your supposed to do according to anything we have ever been told on how to maintain an aquarium. Thanks for watching and if you have an questions feel free to ask😁👍
@@HowardHerse-mn4ig honestly no, both fight to keep nitrates. I have deeper substrate and lots of plants in all of them and truly believe the deep substrate is the key.
@@pattys_aquatics ok because I have a non dirted tank that’s been up and running for over a year and was thinking of removing the filter in that one. I want to set up a dirted tank yet after watching your channel and others . Thanks for the help
Great content..i just removed my canister and installed a power head internal filter for just to trap debris..let see ...and my tank also heavyly planted and deep sand bed
That’s awesome, I truly believe any tank with deep substrate and lots of plants do not require mechanical filtration. Low tech tanks are my absolute favorite. Thank you for watching 😁👍
For most of my tanks, I use the old fashioned plastic corner filters. Mostly they are used to add air to the tanks. I have gravel on the bottom of the filters with the filter floss over that. So when I change the floss, the gravel on the bottom still has beneficial bacteria. Are they necessary? Probably not but like you said it moves the water around for the heater.
Yes that’s my biggest issue with no mechanical filtration is no water movement. That’s why I still use an air stone to push water around for the heater. Thanks for watching it’s much appreciated 😁👍
New sub here. Major question for you, I need input before I take the leap and get back into keeping fish. I love fish, and plants and the idea of a natural tank has always had my interest. My question is this, are you using CO2? I've seen others use it for their plants but you don't seem to be. Your plants look amazing! Can you share your thoughts about this and thank you for your knowledge and input.
First, thank you for subscribing it’s much appreciated 😁! Second, I do not use CO2 at all. In all honesty what I have found with my tanks over the last 2 years since I started doing dirted tanks is the key is deep substrate. And when I say deep substrate it doesn’t have to be be a dirted tank. In this tank it’s just blasting sand. The deep substrate keeps the nitrates down ( I have my beliefs on how but I’m not a scientist by any means and there are differing opinions online) and my plants grow like crazy. I don’t even use fertilizer anymore. As far as lighting I have a fluval 3.0 plant light on this tank but all my others have cheap shop lights and really see no difference plant growth wise. So I say go for it just do your research that’s always helped me . Thanks for watching 😁👍
"Think outside the bo9x" What a perfect image. Excellent discussion on the diversity of filtration in an aquarium. Well done!
Thank you sir, my entire fish room has been filterless for over a year and wanted to remove it in this tank as well and thought this was the perfect opportunity to show everyone there are other ways. Which is why I love your channel… you always challenge us to think outside the box.. Thank you for watching it’s much appreciated 😁👍
And when ever you get time..plz make video or a experimental tank for Red colour plants in low tech tank....I never had a success with red plants in my low tech tank ....thanks 👍
Wow at the completion of the month.....excellent results. Tank looks awesome
Thank you sir😁👍
Great video very informative 👍💯
Thank you very much and thank you for watching 😁👍
NICE video. Very well done, and kept me watching. Keep it going!
Thank you I appreciate that and thank you very much for watching 😁👍
I love the idea! Great video excellently done🤩
Thank you! Been wanting to do it on this tank for quite awhile and finally pulled to the so to speak and literally 😂 Thanks for watching 😁👍
Very curious, how’s the tank doing?
@@GrzzlyJon it’s doing awesome, beyond my expectations actually. Thanks for asking. It’s still sitting at 10ppm nitrates, plants are still growing crazy as well. I will probably do an update video in a couple months 😁👍
@@pattys_aquatics that’s very interesting how the nitrates stay that low! I’m thinking of removing my filter on my tank but am alittle nervous. Any recommendations?
@@GrzzlyJon I would suggest having plenty of live plants, test your water daily at first, then keep testing to monitor the parameters. Other than that don’t be nervous! I realize it’s been imprinted in our brains that you must use filters.. There are in most situations alternatives and this is one of them. Let me know if you have any other questions! I’m here to help😁👍
Fantastic test Patty
Excellent video as always
And if it’s presented by you then it’s worth trying it for yourself 👍👍👍👍
Thank you Mal, I said it in another comment but was hesitant to remove it in this tank because of it being in my main living area and wanting it to look pristine but my other tanks are crystal clear so figured it was time. Everyone’s situations are different obviously but I love the no filter tanks. Thanks for watching friend😁👍
I think this is a great video that makes you think, this way is def cheaper haha! All our ponds/tubs we have always taken this approach and never even use aeration.... never had a problem, just never thought about the same approach in indoor aquariums, doesn't make sense! Thanks for your videos and tests bud!!
I completely agree. By everything we as hobbyists ever read or done research on this should not be possible. My water parameters should be through the roof and my puffer dead. Yet here I am with 10ppm nitrate and 0 ammonia and nitrite and my tank is thriving. That’s why I always like to try and read and research different things because there are always different ways to do things. Thanks for watching and for your support it means alot to me 😁👍
@@pattys_aquatics my tap water comes out way way higher than that haha! so I do water changes rarely and always feel terrible based on the status quo lol!! back in the day 40 years ago I don’t remember my old man doing any water changes, ever…So I definitely appreciate your experience and videos and one of the reasons I find your channel so interesting (and your screen presence)! Keep doing what ur doing bud it’s honestly inspiring and anything like this that brings the maintenance time and overall financial input down of the hobby most of us put in makes it more appealing in general to a wider community, so everything your doing and explaining gets two thumbs up from us! Always learning thanks to people like you 👍👍it all makes sense but over the years i guess like most people we have been conditioned to believe we need todo certain things (ironically by the people that profit of selling filtration)🙄! Keep it up ur rocking bud!!!
@@Aquadiction you hit the nail on the head with being conditioned to believe how things should be by the people selling the products.
Thank you for your kind words , I’m just a guy trying to show what I’m doing and if I can help people along the way even better. Cause I know watching people on here helped me as well👍😁
Excellent Job..I have really never followed rules. Some of my ponds run on only bog filtration. I also liked that you said you do this and werent trying to say yours is the only way. Good on you! I like water movement simply because of the fish I keep. Very Impressive and honest
Thank you Stubbs, yes there is no one way Or correct way to do something. I , as you , don’t like to follow the line that’s supposed to be followed unless I feel that’s the right path. I appreciate your support and thank you for watching 😁👍
@@pattys_aquatics my pleasure excellent video
Very interesting and boldly courageous, until i get a bunch more plant in the tanks i will use fitration, mostly sponge filters that being said, its spark a lot of interest great topic patty! Have a great weekend 🙂👍🏻
Thanks Jeff, filtration is a necessary entity in an aquarium, it’s just how you want to do it. Filter no filter it’s up to every individual hobbyist how you want to do it and just thinking outside the box sometimes brings great results. Thanks for watching 😁👍
@@pattys_aquaticsdefinitely thinking of when i do my dirted tank, lots of plants and a light bioload see of i can do it.
@@pelhamsaquatics none of my dirted tanks have filters. Only air. This one isn’t even dirted.. just blasting sand. It’s a fun experience 😁👍
@@pattys_aquatics yes it is! And it was fun watching your way of doing it patty!
I absolutely love your tank. And I love the no filter idea. I started a dirted tank from watching your videos and the no filter approach I think is next. Thank you Patty 👍
Thank you very much and I’m honored I could help you in any way. I definitely love the no filter tanks and love the looks of my tanks with them. Thanks for watching 😁👍
Interesting experiment! Like Stubbs, I also really appreciate how you pointed out that this is just what you're doing and this is not the *only* right way. Plants are an excellent filter. I may have told you this already, but I experimented with filterless (meaning I forgot to plug the filter back in after a wc for almost a week) in one of my heavily planted tanks. I kind of freaked out when I realized and thought I had killed my cycle, but to my surprise I had 10-15ppm nitrate, 0 nitrite, and 0 ammonia. Part of me thought I just got lucky so I plugged it back in because I'm scared of going filterless. But it really did get my wheels turning. Baby steps for me, lol. Maybe someday I'll be brave and try it for real like you! Your tiger lotus looks *amazing* ! Hope you have a good weekend and thank you for this interesting topic and the way you presented it 🙂👍👍
Thank you Tara , yes there are an endless different ways to do just about anything in this hobby and life , I would never push what Im doing as the only or right way. What works for me may not work for someone else. 😁
I have actually found it interesting that even with my fish room tanks since I removed the filters I don’t have nitrate issues anymore. It’s actually the opposite of never having enough of what they say you should have for a planted tank.
Thanks for watching and I love that tiger lotus as well, very vibrant, have an awesome weekend 😁👍
I have some no filter, some sponge filter, and one with a hang-on-back. The one with the HOB is my pair of bristlenose plecos with their babies. That tank was GROSS without a filter. Just constant brown clouds of mulm to the point where the water was dark. This seems to happen to any tank I add a pleco to, even babies. The filter clears it right up, but of course, now need to clean the filter weekly. On the other hand, I just took a HOB filter off another 20 gallon I have. It actually made a mess, instead of cleaning up a mess. It was blowing debris into the plants, where it would be stuck, and then grow algae in the plants because of the debris. I added an established sponge filter before removing the HOB so there wouldn’t be a sudden removal of beneficial bacteria. It’s transitioned fine, and plants are coming back without algae all over them. How often do you do water changes on your no filter tanks? I tried no water changes for a long time, and while the fish were totally fine, the plants were just not growing much in several tanks, and water changes helped. So with water changes, it also depends on the tank for me. I think if I wasn’t breeding and selling plants, so constantly removing plants and fish, the tanks would maybe balance better. Hopefully some day I’ll have room for some display tanks that I would think would stay more stable without always removing things or adding things.
With removing the filter from this tank I currently don’t have any running with mechanical filtration any longer. Although all of them except this one and my goldfish tub are dirted tanks.
As far as water changes, with all my tanks in my fish room I don’t necessarily have to do water changes because they always stay at 10ppm or below in nitrate but I try to do a 15%ish change every month or two. I don’t gravel vac or anything either just exchange water from the top. With this tank I haven’t decided yet. Currently it still sits at 10ppm nitrate since I filmed this and the plants are growing bonkers.
Every tank , hobbyist and situation is different but though obviously. I find I have to do less maintenance with my dirted filterless tanks which is not supposed to be the case of you follow all the “RULES” 😂
Thanks for watching 😁👍
Another great video my man! Love the topic and idea🤘🤩
Thank you and thank you for watching 😁👍
Love the video, is this a dirted tank?
I’m always looking for different ways to do my aquariums and have always been afraid to go without a filter but after watching this I might try it.
Thank you!
No this is not a dirted tank. I also have a 100 gallon goldfish pond that is not dirted that I run without filtration. It definitely can be done in a lot of situations it’s just typically not the norm of what your supposed to do according to anything we have ever been told on how to maintain an aquarium. Thanks for watching and if you have an questions feel free to ask😁👍
@@pattys_aquatics have you found a difference between dirted tanks and not dirted tanks with no filters?
@@HowardHerse-mn4ig honestly no, both fight to keep nitrates. I have deeper substrate and lots of plants in all of them and truly believe the deep substrate is the key.
@@pattys_aquatics ok because I have a non dirted tank that’s been up and running for over a year and was thinking of removing the filter in that one. I want to set up a dirted tank yet after watching your channel and others . Thanks for the help
@@HowardHerse-mn4ig anytime 😁👍
Great content..i just removed my canister and installed a power head internal filter for just to trap debris..let see ...and my tank also heavyly planted and deep sand bed
That’s awesome, I truly believe any tank with deep substrate and lots of plants do not require mechanical filtration. Low tech tanks are my absolute favorite.
Thank you for watching 😁👍
For most of my tanks, I use the old fashioned plastic corner filters. Mostly they are used to add air to the tanks. I have gravel on the bottom of the filters with the filter floss over that. So when I change the floss, the gravel on the bottom still has beneficial bacteria. Are they necessary? Probably not but like you said it moves the water around for the heater.
Yes that’s my biggest issue with no mechanical filtration is no water movement. That’s why I still use an air stone to push water around for the heater.
Thanks for watching it’s much appreciated 😁👍
New sub here. Major question for you, I need input before I take the leap and get back into keeping fish. I love fish, and plants and the idea of a natural tank has always had my interest. My question is this, are you using CO2? I've seen others use it for their plants but you don't seem to be. Your plants look amazing! Can you share your thoughts about this and thank you for your knowledge and input.
First, thank you for subscribing it’s much appreciated 😁!
Second, I do not use CO2 at all. In all honesty what I have found with my tanks over the last 2 years since I started doing dirted tanks is the key is deep substrate. And when I say deep substrate it doesn’t have to be be a dirted tank. In this tank it’s just blasting sand. The deep substrate keeps the nitrates down ( I have my beliefs on how but I’m not a scientist by any means and there are differing opinions online) and my plants grow like crazy. I don’t even use fertilizer anymore. As far as lighting I have a fluval 3.0 plant light on this tank but all my others have cheap shop lights and really see no difference plant growth wise. So I say go for it just do your research that’s always helped me . Thanks for watching 😁👍
Thank you! Will be watching and learning. @@pattys_aquatics
@@The1BlackKrow anytime and if you ever have any questions feel free to ask. I will always do my best to help😁👍