I live on a 56 foot sailboat, I seldom use the generator, mostly for the water maker and top off the batteries, my main power is solar and wind...thats free. I have storable foods, 2 years worth and eat a lot of rice and fish. I catch my own fish. Plenty of free wifi and keep it simple. I anchor out a lot...free....I kayak the rest of the time, although have a dinghy and a 10 hp outboard I start up and run 1 or 2 times a month. I don't use engines very much but keep them running and maintained. Boat is paid for in full and keep up on maintenance to point where I can pull anchor at any time and head to sea. I make my own spirits and do some hydroponics from fresh vegies. Total cost per month is about 607 dollar per month and that is on the high side. My fuel tanks are full...I make my own water and power. Full tank of water will last me over 2 weeks. The key is to keep it simple, I love talking on short wave. Granted it cost a lot to be set up like I have it now, but ongoing costs are very very low. My satellite phone is my biggest expense which you do not leave shore without it. That is a fixed expense. Take this morning, I caught a 23 pound salmon, I don't need another fish for several weeks, a little seaweed salad, also free. I also use solar ovens which cost nothing to run. I notice they use a Honda 2000 generator, I converted mine over to hydrogen and dumped the gasoline for that unit. Not sure how to exactly do it for the dinghy, but it shouldn't be brain surgery there.
Awesome! It's so true, once you have your systems set up the right way it can make you super self-sufficient in the long run! And on a 56ft sailboat that is awesome to hear! Do you create your own hydrogen for your generator?
JoJo/Clem Kadilihopper very impressive set up.. im sure if you upload some kind of vloggy or advice videos, you can make a lot of ad revenue, even a video of just a walkthrough of your system would be enough..
I have lived aboard several times over the years. a couple years in San Diego a couple years on the Mississippi and Kentucky Lake. I just turned 73 this month and I'm still healthy and I am shopping for another livaboard as we speak. I have a VA Pension now and after I purchase, I will have no more worries. Folks, listen up, there is nothing to fear and unless you hate being alone, it's the best life imaginable. GO FOR IT.
Just about all the live-aboard RUclips channels have put together a video like this. Yours is by far the best! You actually break down the numbers instead of just talking ball parks. Thank you!
Excellent breakdown. Nice that you preface it for your expenses because not everyone can do it the way you do but you offer options that work for you. Well done
Awesome video guys! This is a lifestyle we are considering. We currently dry camp in our RV, but we’re encountering a lot of problems, including winter coming up and places not allowing us to park overnight. Thanks for this awesome video!
Thanks so much for all your videos. Having done the family/career thing I am looking forward to cashing in my chips and living aboard while I can still haul up the anchor. your videos are very encouraging.
Hey. Great Video. We are in Ireland and have just bought a Gulfstar 44 in Statin Island. We have to get one of the engines revived and a good clean. We can't wait to start our adventure!
Just found your channel and appreciate the mix of adventure and practical information. Often times I am left wondering about the nuts and bolts of how people live this way, and you guys are very informative in that regard. Thanks for sharing!
just discovered you're videos while window shopping for boat. really like your videos. you truly are living the dream. I've got just couple more years before retire. will leave land base for boat base. so for now...I'll just dream with you guys.
We lived on our boat, for 12 years full time, Your figures are quite realistic, it’s a great way to be frugal, yet giving the ability to squirrel moneywort away for security!
I've been comparing my costs for landlubber life and boat life. I can save on average $386.00 a month by living on a boat. Living on the hook like you do, would make my savings closer to $600 a month. That was enough incentive to put my home up for sale and start looking for boats.
Thank you for this video. we are a couple from culebra P.R and because of hurracane maria we decided to buy a tawler it is aground and we're fixing it to live we should be in the water in about a month your videos help us see what's coming for un now. Thank you!
This was a very helpful video. I have been thinking of getting a small 30 foot Willard trawler and do pretty much what you guys are doing. I am glad I found your channel and look forward to more videos. Would either of you feel comfortable about singlehanding a small trawler or do you think it is always necessary to have two or more people to cruise in a trawler in the states and the bahamas?
I would feel totally comfortable single handing through the states and Bahamas. I took it from LI, NY down to Florida myself. The islands are short enough to island hop and no need to cruise overnight. The rest depends on you seamanship and health.
Tula's Endless Summer oohh wow I'm like just so impressed now come back and talk when you've done something real like our Aussie legend a 16 year old girl who circumnavigated the globe solo in a sailboat.
WoW! Kind of a mean comment. They did not say they were trying to do anything spectacular or news-worthy. They were just sharing their experiences and I found it very helpful.
I really enjoy seeing and hearing yal tell about living on a boat. I am fixing to move onto my sail boat. Its 30 ft long. Morgan. I have learned alot from yall about what i should do and not do. Thank you very much. W. P. Curry
never even considered anchoring instead of docking. I suppose there are regulations for that since some entity is not getting paid docking fees. It's always about the money!
This video was the first video of you guys I watched. Your videos are COOL. Makes me want to buy a boat and live like you guys. Respect to you guys Jose from orlando.
I have a 29' cruiser. I want to upgrade to a bigger boat but thinking about displacement instead of planing. Did you go with a trawler for fuel efficiency? They seam like better open sea boats and capable of longer ranges at displacement speeds. Cool channel. I subscribed.
In California, docked in Sand Diego, on a 37ft Lancer Sloop it ran me about 1000.00 a month with Live Aboard and dock fees (minus boat/insurance payment) which was cheaper than a 1 bedroom roach motel apartment in the Ghetto of San Diego for rent only! That was 1995-2006, time frame before boat was sold due to a PCS Transfer to another duty station. Here I am in Texas 2019 and I am hoping to get a boat and live aboard again in early 2020 as I am currently shopping for a boat now! Its still cheaper than an apartment and I won it instead of making someone else rich as I dont make enough to buy a house and too old to do a 30 year mortgage at current house prices in the area. For me living aboard was the most relaxing and best years of my life!!!
Very good video. The expense categories are similar to living in a motorhome or RV trailer. RV storage is probably less than moorage for a boat. An important expense is maintenance for both boats & RV's and being able to perform good maintenance saves money for owners. But since I'm fearful of deep water I'll stay with a motorhome . . . but I sure love boats.
Very well done! I am listing what mine was just as another example. 1987 Carver aft cabin 38 Boat payment: $700 "80,000 on a 15 year loan" Slip payment: $660, includes power and water underwater diver: $150 average living in a marine the zinc failed a lot about every 3 months. maintenance: $400 always working one something. If the motors where working good I would redue some wood or wiring or plumbing, fixtures, electronics or..... haul out and paint $58 I only needed to do this every 3 years but it costed $2,100 I am leaving gas and food out this is dependent on the user although the 38 did not use fuel well with twin 454 gassers. pump out of black water free I would motor over to pump out myself in the marina.... okay so $30 in fuel just cuz I had to start them. $1,98.00 Plus food and what ever gas you want to use
@Monty Craig Looks like it. Maybe he's in a nice area. This is why people try to spend as much time at anchor as possible. This seems totally dependent on your power needs/generation and desalinization abilities. A dish type wifi system could connect you to areas quite far away so this is not a problem most of the time. Dock fees and fuel costs seem to be the #1 enemy. A sailing catamaran anchored would appear to give a lot of space plus with less of a draft you'd have a lot more options where to anchor. The spacious deck area allows more solar panels/wind generation options as well. Unfortunately they are mighty expensive. Go big or go home!
You folks nailed it. I love the dog shots. It's so refreshing to see a couple doing things much like we did about 40 years ago, although we were aboard a 27' sailboat. When you get to be old f4rts like we are (70's), you might find, like we did, that a houseboat isn't a bad way to go. 72land-n-sea.blogspot.com/2011/05/introduction.html 72land-n-sea.blogspot.com/2012/09/houseboat-2000-miles-to-lake-powell.html
Maintenance = $$$$$$$ What kind of hull? Is it wood, steel, fiberglass or aluminum? Is there wood use for a structural element in the boat? It doesn’t matter if it’s sandwiched of encapsulated, it can rot=$$$$. My personal opinion, wood on a boat is ok if it’s decorative or furniture but not structural. Steel on most small yachts is usually too thin. All the steel boats I’ve seen are rusting inside AND out. That leaves fiberglass and aluminum. Fiberglass is immune to corrosion but can become brittle with age and depending on build quality it could be prone to blisters below the waterline. I’ve seen older aluminum boats absolutely great condition and I’ve seen them eaten up from electrolysis. This could be a compound problem of a poor alloy and stray currents ( a “hot harbor”). Bottom line choose carefully or you will constantly be working or paying someone else to keep it afloat.
Coen Mensforth Look up River Queen houseboat. Every one I’ve seen has had more work done to it than it’s worth or it’s one step through the bilge from going to the bottom. Doubtful that the have spent any time in salt water but they are just at an age that they are done. There’s about 25 or so left in the California delta and I know of three that are in good shape. Massive amount of time and work to keep it that way. Usually one owner fixes something and then had enough then the next owner and then on.
Absolutely! On thing also about maintenance is the age and what the boat is made of. I rebuilt a 1973 32' Grand Banks trawler, looked something like yours. It was in great shape but lots inside the hull needed replacing. From wiring to commode seals. Even the fuel tanks needed replacing. How do you do that? I ended up cutting them up and made containers to secure rubber like blivet bags. Had to redo nearly all the wood on the flybridge. Did it all within a years time working on it weekends and weeknights, for the most part. Lived on it with my GF during that time. Don't know all the cost, bc the owner paid for it all.
How does someone go "at anchor", and avoid a docking fee? I live in Southern California and I am trying to figure out if it is possible for me to live on a boat for super cheap during the summer when I am not in school just like you did!
I myself have recently moved onto a 36' Litton Trawler. Pretty much identical to this boat you had. I have really enjoyed watching all of your videos. You two both look so care free and happy! I keep scouring for videos of people doing work on their older Trawler just so I can see first hand what it entails before I do something. Im about to gut the interior and windows like you did on the cat soon I hope. Again I enjoyed watching your adventures and wish you the best of luck, maybe you will see me and Kama Hele if you ever come to the Charleston area.
$5 for pump out is amazingly cheap, but that total of $50/month means you're probably using the wrong type of toilet system with regards to efficiency. If you can afford it, installing a vacuflush would cut down volume by 2/3 compared to the standard pump type. Even with a savings of $35/month, it would probably take $3 years to pay for the vacuflush. Subbed and hello from Canada!
Thanks for the sub and thank you very much for the additional info. We had an old (original 1973) vaccuflush system with 2 heads in here but I was putting a hole in my pocket getting silly gaskets and parts trying to figure out where the vacuum leak was on the pump. Drove me crazy! Much simpler now with 1 maul head and will be free pump out if we get a macerator and take her offshore fishing at least once a week!
I agree, vacuflush is nice, everyone I know around me that has one puts new duck valves in about every season and they are nearly constantly whining about vacuum leaks. I like my manual system.
My youngest (14) and I are planning next year when his brother graduates and on his own, to liquidate land assets and have a boat life. Looking @ 42' - 45' catamarans in Florida or up the E. coast. Possible, occasionally doing some chartering sunset cruises and/or to the Bahamas. We really enjoy your channel as well as other live aboards. (Sailing La Vagabon
Depends if you are military affiliated or not. If you are the costs are cut dramatically for living aboard in a military marina. For example $5 per foot X length of boat to live aboard for a month. That included water and electricity. At that marina there was no laundry, but laundry was available on base at a close distance. Alcohol stove was on board, and only an ice box available so Ice was a regular expense as well as food. All told Probably cost me less than $450-500 a month for single living with maintenance involved since my boat was in good repair.
I've always wanted to live on a boat. The idea of living on the sea always interested me, since I grew up watching allot of things like boat documentaries and cartoons like flapjack. Thanks for giving me an idea! I'm gonna be moving out in a few years so I'm looking forward to this.
I'm a massive alcoholic Army vet Irish guy living in Boston. I want to live in a house boat out the harbor to save money. I'm 30 and single. This sounds like a good choice.
RightAway87 Had a friend at S.F. Marina come home drunk a few years ago. He fell in and they found his body the next morning. Get some help at AA, it saved my life........
Good video. Living aboard is awesome, but we switch back and forth from houses to boat and usually at a marina. And another note, we own Endless Summer Charters in the Keys :) So we're going to need our name back (j/k). Happy and safe travels!
I spent a lot of time on boats as a kid, and it is my adult dream to do so again soon. This is super helpful- there's definitely some things that would be different for me because of my location and being on my own, but it does put a lot in perspective. Also- your boat is wonderful. Trawlers are so homey.
In California it’s $ 25 -$ 35 per pump out, but usually free if you rent a slip. Dumping overboard anywhere in California is illegal and ALL treatment and dump systems are no longer legal here. Live aboard harbor locations are getting scarce and the good ones (not section 8) are expensive.
I like it. Live like pirates that's awesome. I'm doing it some day. I like the anchoring out deal but how is it when a storm hits. Only thing I would get nervous about.
You guys are a cute couple it's a beautiful thing to be living like this out on the open ocean! You sweety a great example to the young who should consider this life style as it is special and not so stressful like the everyday rat race we all have been lead to believe to be the norm. Good bless you both and your cool doggy be safe and sail on wards🚣♂️🚣♀️Thanks for your video info!❤
Now heres my question. What do you do for income? i have my eye on a 40×20 houseboat that im thinking about getting. Ill be floating it from the Tennessee river to the gulf. Where I plan to live.
Great vid! I have a serious question. What do you guys do when god forbid severe or inclement weather comes along? Do you take the dingy to shore and post up in a hotel? Or drive to better weather? Also insurance? Happy boating!
Go for it! Bad weather and high waters are definitely one of the many things you always have to keep in mind when living on a boat, but in our opinion it is so worth it! Thanks so much for watching!
cool video. Count yourselves lucky your in the states / florida coast. Been looking at a similar option in Europe...not as easy, nothing is cheap now, every loophole seems to be closing....the cost of fuel, mooring etc high - oh well back to the drawing board! ps just noticed this video was 2 1/2 years ago....what are you guys doing now? Still living on the boat? update please!!!!
How much does it cost to live on a boat ? AS MUCH AS YOU HAVE ! But you did a great job in putting out the numbers. Of course this is your minimum... and maintenance can be a lot higher when something big breaks... Like to eat out and drink a lot of alcohol? cha ching! I figure when I retire in 3 years it will cost me about 1500 per month, and that is with a $250/month savings for delayed maintenance fund. I don't drink, eat healthy, won't use insurance, but will have a older boat that will need a lot of upkeep. Initial costs around 40-50K. And factor in a full refit at year 5 or so.....
as of 11/1/2018… i'm still living on my small houseboat that is only 55ft long and 15ft wide (its a 2 bedroom 2 bathroom with full size bathtub as well)…. I've been living on my houseboat for over 5 years on a large fresh water lake in Georgia just north of Atlanta. i pay $375/month for a covered 50ft slip, uncovered slips can be much less, (around $275/month)… i pay on average about $125/month for dock electric, i never use my generators, because the power rarely goes out for more than a total of 4 hours per year. Water/garbage and hi-speed WiFi here at this marina is free, and i don't really have engine maintenance because i never drive my houseboat, i keep a 20ft pontoon for that. Pump out for my houseboat's sewer is only $50/month. i have a DirecTV satellite dish i mounted myself to the dock for a better signal. ( i have about 50 channels and pay $50/month) So, there you have it…. i'm spending less than $650/month living "on" the water. If i didn't keep 5 separate refrigerators running at all times and weren't under a covered slip and were happy with about 12 free airwave TV channels…. you could easily live on a boat for less than $450/month. ( some of the fancier marinas cost about 40% more for the slip fee because of armed guards and gated entrances and floating restaurants ) For those that are thinking about living on a boat…. mine cost under $35,000 5 years ago…. i've seen boats like mine go for as little as $15,000 for a fixer upper to up to $65,000 for top of the line upgrades and remodels…. meaning, granite counter tops through out and 6 man hot tubs on the upper deck roof with an extra full kitchens and electric black out curtains.
Great video guys I’m currently researching about living on a boat looking at 43 Viking don’t plan on doing any traveling as I do have a job in land just curious about how to go about not having to be on a dock all the time. Where in Florida are guy if not mind me asking I’m in west palm beach very new to this need some help thank you
How did you come by your boat? How long have you had it? I've been looking for awhile now & agree the engine you have in Tula is a great engine for a trawler!
Do not feel so bad. We spend $27k a year on food. Im figuring we can cut that back a bit. Just by owning a boat. We eat more on boat then going out. Service is not so great anymore in LA. We just do it to get out. We cook better too! But if we had a boat we would be out! Plus I want one LoL Thanks for the Video!
Just stumbled upon this channel and LOVE it ...We have been self employed our entire lives, have four kids(almost all grown), horses, dogs, a big farm, and a 1973 Trojan Sportfisher(our starter boat)..We are in the process of starting our life living on a boat during the New England winter months...will be selling our starter boat soon to find a trawler...I am really curious if you make any cash to live on doing other things or from You Tube sharing...I know others have asked and you have not answered yet but I truly hope you can share so the landlubbers out here can get the true picture...thanks and keep vlogging!
For the most part I am an ocean lifeguard for 2 months in the summer on Long Island and I teach kiteboarding for 6-8 months in the winter in FL. We are starting to make a tiny bit of money via youtube and patreon. Just a tiny bit but it shows that the passive income capabilities are there! What do you guys do for you self-employed business? Can you run it from a boat? You are going to love trawler life as long as you don't mind going a bit slower...
My husband and I are self employed. He makes the majority of our income with our landscape design and construction biz...We also own a horse farm...I teach riding lessons and also sell stuff...antiques, etc...I have also taught skiing...Currently, we are working on downsizing our farm and planning some changes to accommodate our desire to live part of the year abroad...
What about insurance? Is insurance expensive for that type of boat ? We are looking at a 1970 36' Grand Banks to possibly buy so I'm curious if it's affordable. I'm going to call and get a quote from boat us Monday. Thanks for any info 😊 love your videos ❤️
@@bgjidija They told him and he passed out, hit his head and was no more. Always remember to sit down first. Its common in insurance offices just before they tell you your proposed monthly payment.
Your food costs is about the same as mine, for my wife and I One couple said Benamahas was cheap. Their cruising rates were high but the abundance of high quality sea food for spear fishing, more than made up for their sailing charges. They rarely ate out there.. They said lunch out for 3 with one beer each, costs them $200 US.
I'll share my experiences, I live on a 2015 sunseeker predator 68 with boat payments and insurance and food and water I play around 2500 a month but that's in the summer, in winter I like to keep it at about 1500 cause I don't move b/c of winterizing it and I use the outboard rib Stowe's away in the garage to get around
Interesting. I've always considered this life style but have no idea about how to go about it. I want a sail boat, a fairly good sized one and age doesn't matter that much if in good shape, what do I need to know to aquire one?
Enjoyed your video....thinking on doing something like this. I am from Nova Scotia, thinking on buying a boat in Florida living 6 months of winter. Then sail it back here in summer and sell it as boats are much higher here.
repairing and make it running as per the budget is best , and people travel long and look amazing to c people around travel and show case what they have that best out look
i used to be friends with a woman years ago who lived on a sailboat when she was young with her first husband before they had children. everybody thought they were so incredibly cool. they both had jobs in the boston area and kept their boat mostly docked for their jobs, but then sailed on weekends and vacations all around. they were both happy with this until they had a child and promptly moved off the boat. my friend said that she developed problems with her lungs from living on a boat and breathing in basically mold all around around her. i hope you guys are on to this matter and have your ventilation figured out, because she said it compromised her lung function at a young age. i lost touch with her cuz we were friends before the age of computers and people used to lose track of each other in the old days and she ended up fighting other battles, breast cancer and a divorce, and i just don't know how she is doing, but apparently because you are surrounded by water all around you while you sleep in an enclosed space, there is a greater risk of mold exposure.
Thanks for the video. Do you think the newer fiberglass boats wouldn't require painting every year? Or say if I would have an aluminum hull, would that mean say more than 2 years maintenance? We're trying to lower maintenance as much as possible in terms of initial purchase, buying something that doesn't require that much maintenance
Damjan Cvetkov-Dimitrov Painting interval depends on the paint you use, not the hull material. Better paint (more expensive) generally lasts longer. In the case of aluminum hull boats, the paint, TBT, is even more expensive than copper bottom paint, which can get up to about 300 bux a gallon. I don't know if you can apply TBT yourself, or need a yard tech to do it. Don't even know if you can buy it over the counter anymore.
acmeopinion factory I guess we're set on getting anti-fouling paint on a fiberglass hull. Don't know how long that could last if we get the most expensive stuff out there.
Count on two years minimum even in tropical waters, given slow, displacement hull speeds and very light scrubbing when necessary. Don't scrub more than necessary, as you'll wear the paint down. More coats at the waterline will help, as that is where the most flora fouling will occur, the sunlight is strongest there and weed love it.
yup, marinas require insurance. could be 300k-million dollar policy requirement depending on the marina. I haven't checked into rates but figure what your min state requirements are for a car, much less right? so he's your boat insurance payments will be higher varying little based on detectable. living on a boat is actually pretty expensive. most of the population lives from paycheck to paycheck, one or two missed paychecks from homelessness. so if your an unusual character who is financially secure then go for it but while paying rent sucks, you have much more room, can put in notice for moving to new place if job changes unlike liveaboard. see many marinas don't allow live aboard so ya can't just sail near new job as you may like. have a car to get to job? well good but do ya want to commute from marina ya live in cause one closer to job doesn't allow liveaboard? not me. personally I say if ya wanna sail your best bet seems to be to just get smaller day cruiser and just be weekend warrior
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I should switch to living on a boat... currently I live in a van down by the river. ✌️😎👍
kmrocker 69 nothing wrong living in a van I’m looking at buying a van but the wife and I will be traveling around Australia
one day you eat chefboyardee straight out of the can and then the next thing you know, you're living in a van down by the river
@@EP1CNELSON thats the weirdest comment i have ever seen. i love it
Classic!!
Farley...luv it!!!!
I live on a 56 foot sailboat, I seldom use the generator, mostly for the water maker and top off the batteries, my main power is solar and wind...thats free. I have storable foods, 2 years worth and eat a lot of rice and fish. I catch my own fish. Plenty of free wifi and keep it simple. I anchor out a lot...free....I kayak the rest of the time, although have a dinghy and a 10 hp outboard I start up and run 1 or 2 times a month. I don't use engines very much but keep them running and maintained. Boat is paid for in full and keep up on maintenance to point where I can pull anchor at any time and head to sea. I make my own spirits and do some hydroponics from fresh vegies. Total cost per month is about 607 dollar per month and that is on the high side. My fuel tanks are full...I make my own water and power. Full tank of water will last me over 2 weeks. The key is to keep it simple, I love talking on short wave. Granted it cost a lot to be set up like I have it now, but ongoing costs are very very low. My satellite phone is my biggest expense which you do not leave shore without it. That is a fixed expense. Take this morning, I caught a 23 pound salmon, I don't need another fish for several weeks, a little seaweed salad, also free. I also use solar ovens which cost nothing to run. I notice they use a Honda 2000 generator, I converted mine over to hydrogen and dumped the gasoline for that unit. Not sure how to exactly do it for the dinghy, but it shouldn't be brain surgery there.
Awesome! It's so true, once you have your systems set up the right way it can make you super self-sufficient in the long run! And on a 56ft sailboat that is awesome to hear! Do you create your own hydrogen for your generator?
Interesting Jo Jo, start making videos.
Where do you get free solar panels? I like free..
Yeah right. Video(s) or didn't happen!!
JoJo/Clem Kadilihopper very impressive set up.. im sure if you upload some kind of vloggy or advice videos, you can make a lot of ad revenue, even a video of just a walkthrough of your system would be enough..
Hey guys, I like your videos. At 3:58sec. you will see a 1977 Freeport Islander . That's my boat! We must of been in town!
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brint holeman that's my boat
Frank Cino no it is my boat !
No it's my airplane
Moe I was told that it was your airplane that fell off the side of your aircraft carrier ! How did that happen ?
I have lived aboard several times over the years. a couple years in San Diego a couple years on the Mississippi and Kentucky Lake. I just turned 73 this month and I'm still healthy and I am shopping for another livaboard as we speak. I have a VA Pension now and after I purchase, I will have no more worries. Folks, listen up, there is nothing to fear and unless you hate being alone, it's the best life imaginable. GO FOR IT.
finally, a video that explains living on a boat correctly.
Just about all the live-aboard RUclips channels have put together a video like this. Yours is by far the best! You actually break down the numbers instead of just talking ball parks. Thank you!
$700 a month on food!!! Ya eating REAL GOOD! Lol
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Ever bought groceries in the Bahamas?
I don't even live on a boat and my restaurant expenses are 1k a month + groceries lmao
Red Luna yeah it’s not that far out 🤷🏻♂️
Haven't been that thin since i was 14... if i ate that much i'd be huge lol
the experience is Priceless....man do i envy you guys =)
@jasper fatty: Any bipedal person can do this. (: But you must have the cash.
and no children
Pretty Prudent yer mummy and daddy cash
clear and concise info and it works for you and that's what counts.⚓
Excellent breakdown. Nice that you preface it for your expenses because not everyone can do it the way you do but you offer options that work for you. Well done
Awesome video guys! This is a lifestyle we are considering. We currently dry camp in our RV, but we’re encountering a lot of problems, including winter coming up and places not allowing us to park overnight. Thanks for this awesome video!
Interesting. We're debating land vs water. Leaning towards water.
Thank you for sharing your living expenses with us, Fair winds and following seas !!
Thanks so much for all your videos. Having done the family/career thing I am looking forward to cashing in my chips and living aboard while I can still haul up the anchor. your videos are very encouraging.
Your welcome and thank you so much for watching and for the kind words! Let us know if you have any questions!
That is such a cool way to live bro.
Hey. Great Video. We are in Ireland and have just bought a Gulfstar 44 in Statin Island. We have to get one of the engines revived and a good clean. We can't wait to start our adventure!
you're going to love it! Get out of Staten Island as soon as you can haha
Beautiful footage and clean presentation of numbers - thank you for making this expenses/budget video uncomplicated :)
You two are livin the life. Thanks for the insight.
Just found your channel and appreciate the mix of adventure and practical information. Often times I am left wondering about the nuts and bolts of how people live this way, and you guys are very informative in that regard. Thanks for sharing!
Cool. . very straight forward. thanks!
Glad you enjoyed. Thank you!
just discovered you're videos while window shopping for boat. really like your videos. you truly are living the dream. I've got just couple more years before retire. will leave land base for boat base. so for now...I'll just dream with you guys.
We lived on our boat, for 12 years full time, Your figures are quite realistic, it’s a great way to be frugal, yet giving the ability to squirrel moneywort away for security!
Wow that’s awesome Robert!! We agree, it’s an awesome way to live! Are you still living the boating life?
I've been comparing my costs for landlubber life and boat life. I can save on average $386.00 a month by living on a boat. Living on the hook like you do, would make my savings closer to $600 a month. That was enough incentive to put my home up for sale and start looking for boats.
Thank you for this video. we are a couple from culebra P.R and because of hurracane maria we decided to buy a tawler it is aground and we're fixing it to live we should be in the water in about a month your videos help us see what's coming for un now. Thank you!
This was a very helpful video. I have been thinking of getting a small 30 foot Willard trawler and do pretty much what you guys are doing. I am glad I found your channel and look forward to more videos. Would either of you feel comfortable about singlehanding a small trawler or do you think it is always necessary to have two or more people to cruise in a trawler in the states and the bahamas?
I would feel totally comfortable single handing through the states and Bahamas. I took it from LI, NY down to Florida myself. The islands are short enough to island hop and no need to cruise overnight. The rest depends on you seamanship and health.
Thanks so much for the reply!
Tula's Endless Summer oohh wow I'm like just so impressed now come back and talk when you've done something real like our Aussie legend a 16 year old girl who circumnavigated the globe solo in a sailboat.
WoW! Kind of a mean comment. They did not say they were trying to do anything spectacular or news-worthy. They were just sharing their experiences and I found it very helpful.
What about Insurance (boat/health etc.)?
That was great, but maybe also to include, insurance , registration and licence etc costs that are directly related to the boat as well. thanks.
When I am 40 i better be living on boat
Boat life > every life. You guys have inspired me to save for a boat and take my travels to the next level.
This is great! We also have found th maintenance category is the most expensive if you don't do work yourself
I really enjoy seeing and hearing yal tell about living on a boat. I am fixing to move onto my sail boat. Its 30 ft long. Morgan. I have learned alot from yall about what i should do and not do. Thank you very much. W. P. Curry
Thanks so much for the kind words and good luck fixing up the boat!!!
never even considered anchoring instead of docking. I suppose there are regulations for that since some entity is not getting paid docking fees. It's always about the money!
Yeup anchoring restritctions are getting more and more common these days mostly with time limits and mostly in more populated areas.
This video was the first video of you guys I watched. Your videos are COOL. Makes me want to buy a boat and live like you guys. Respect to you guys Jose from orlando.
I have a 29' cruiser. I want to upgrade to a bigger boat but thinking about displacement instead of planing. Did you go with a trawler for fuel efficiency? They seam like better open sea boats and capable of longer ranges at displacement speeds. Cool channel. I subscribed.
In California, docked in Sand Diego, on a 37ft Lancer Sloop it ran me about 1000.00 a month with Live Aboard and dock fees (minus boat/insurance payment) which was cheaper than a 1 bedroom roach motel apartment in the Ghetto of San Diego for rent only! That was 1995-2006, time frame before boat was sold due to a PCS Transfer to another duty station. Here I am in Texas 2019 and I am hoping to get a boat and live aboard again in early 2020 as I am currently shopping for a boat now! Its still cheaper than an apartment and I won it instead of making someone else rich as I dont make enough to buy a house and too old to do a 30 year mortgage at current house prices in the area. For me living aboard was the most relaxing and best years of my life!!!
Very good video. The expense categories are similar to living in a motorhome or RV trailer. RV storage is probably less than moorage for a boat. An important expense is maintenance for both boats & RV's and being able to perform good maintenance saves money for owners. But since I'm fearful of deep water I'll stay with a motorhome . . . but I sure love boats.
Very well done! I am listing what mine was just as another example.
1987 Carver aft cabin 38
Boat payment: $700 "80,000 on a 15 year loan"
Slip payment: $660, includes power and water
underwater diver: $150 average living in a marine the zinc failed a lot about every 3 months.
maintenance: $400 always working one something. If the motors where working good I would redue some wood or wiring or plumbing, fixtures, electronics or.....
haul out and paint $58 I only needed to do this every 3 years but it costed $2,100
I am leaving gas and food out this is dependent on the user although the 38 did not use fuel well with twin 454 gassers.
pump out of black water free I would motor over to pump out myself in the marina.... okay so $30 in fuel just cuz I had to start them.
$1,98.00 Plus food and what ever gas you want to use
Thanks for the added example! Its good to get the perspective of someone paying off the boat as well as paying docking fees.
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@Monty Craig Looks like it. Maybe he's in a nice area. This is why people try to spend as much time at anchor as possible. This seems totally dependent on your power needs/generation and desalinization abilities. A dish type wifi system could connect you to areas quite far away so this is not a problem most of the time. Dock fees and fuel costs seem to be the #1 enemy. A sailing catamaran anchored would appear to give a lot of space plus with less of a draft you'd have a lot more options where to anchor. The spacious deck area allows more solar panels/wind generation options as well. Unfortunately they are mighty expensive. Go big or go home!
We sail and row our canoe:-) it cost us next to nothing to sail from Canada to Australia... the wind is free and rowing is good exercise 😉🐬🦑🐋☀️
You folks nailed it. I love the dog shots. It's so refreshing to see a couple doing things much like we did about 40 years ago, although we were aboard a 27' sailboat. When you get to be old f4rts like we are (70's), you might find, like we did, that a houseboat isn't a bad way to go.
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haha I think we are doing our completely backwards! I went houseboat - 26' sailboat - trawler - .......
Maintenance = $$$$$$$
What kind of hull? Is it wood, steel, fiberglass or aluminum? Is there wood use for a structural element in the boat? It doesn’t matter if it’s sandwiched of encapsulated, it can rot=$$$$. My personal opinion, wood on a boat is ok if it’s decorative or furniture but not structural. Steel on most small yachts is usually too thin. All the steel boats I’ve seen are rusting inside AND out. That leaves fiberglass and aluminum. Fiberglass is immune to corrosion but can become brittle with age and depending on build quality it could be prone to blisters below the waterline. I’ve seen older aluminum boats absolutely great condition and I’ve seen them eaten up from electrolysis. This could be a compound problem of a poor alloy and stray currents ( a “hot harbor”).
Bottom line choose carefully or you will constantly be working or paying someone else to keep it afloat.
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Look up River Queen houseboat.
Every one I’ve seen has had more work done to it than it’s worth or it’s one step through the bilge from going to the bottom. Doubtful that the have spent any time in salt water but they are just at an age that they are done. There’s about 25 or so left in the California delta and I know of three that are in good shape. Massive amount of time and work to keep it that way. Usually one owner fixes something and then had enough then the next owner and then on.
Absolutely! On thing also about maintenance is the age and what the boat is made of.
I rebuilt a 1973 32' Grand Banks trawler, looked something like yours. It was in great shape but lots inside the hull needed replacing. From wiring to commode seals.
Even the fuel tanks needed replacing. How do you do that? I ended up cutting them up and made containers to secure rubber like blivet bags.
Had to redo nearly all the wood on the flybridge. Did it all within a years time working on it weekends and weeknights, for the most part. Lived on it with my GF during that time. Don't know all the cost, bc the owner paid for it all.
I found this pretty helpful I'm planning on living on a sailboat and working in DC I figured it would be cheaper than a house or apartment
How does someone go "at anchor", and avoid a docking fee? I live in Southern California and I am trying to figure out if it is possible for me to live on a boat for super cheap during the summer when I am not in school just like you did!
is going "at anchor" only legal in some places?
I myself have recently moved onto a 36' Litton Trawler. Pretty much identical to this boat you had. I have really enjoyed watching all of your videos. You two both look so care free and happy! I keep scouring for videos of people doing work on their older Trawler just so I can see first hand what it entails before I do something. Im about to gut the interior and windows like you did on the cat soon I hope. Again I enjoyed watching your adventures and wish you the best of luck, maybe you will see me and Kama Hele if you ever come to the Charleston area.
$5 for pump out is amazingly cheap, but that total of $50/month means you're probably using the wrong type of toilet system with regards to efficiency. If you can afford it, installing a vacuflush would cut down volume by 2/3 compared to the standard pump type. Even with a savings of $35/month, it would probably take $3 years to pay for the vacuflush. Subbed and hello from Canada!
Thanks for the sub and thank you very much for the additional info. We had an old (original 1973) vaccuflush system with 2 heads in here but I was putting a hole in my pocket getting silly gaskets and parts trying to figure out where the vacuum leak was on the pump. Drove me crazy! Much simpler now with 1 maul head and will be free pump out if we get a macerator and take her offshore fishing at least once a week!
I agree, vacuflush is nice, everyone I know around me that has one puts new duck valves in about every season and they are nearly constantly whining about vacuum leaks. I like my manual system.
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Would a composting toilet work? You should be able to dump composted materials (I.e. Poop) overboard since it's basically soil, right?
You two are smart thanks for the video . Very helpful
Thanks guys. We are considering a live aboard for our family of 4. My sons are 4 and 8 years old. Any advice ?
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Hello, thank you very very much for your great Videos with alot of information. Kind regards from Zurich, Switzerland.......Stephan
Nothing for insurance? What about your Towaboat membership?
f*ck insurance
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My youngest (14) and I are planning next year when his brother graduates and on his own, to liquidate land assets and have a boat life. Looking @ 42' - 45' catamarans in Florida or up the E. coast. Possible, occasionally doing some chartering sunset cruises and/or to the Bahamas. We really enjoy your channel as well as other live aboards. (Sailing La Vagabon
That’s awesome!! What kind of cats you looking at? That will be amazing for your kid at 14!
We've been looking at Lagoon 42s but might have to start with a Gemini 105 1st. Then when we upgrade, the Lagoon 42 will feel so huge lol
Depends if you are military affiliated or not. If you are the costs are cut dramatically for living aboard in a military marina. For example $5 per foot X length of boat to live aboard for a month. That included water and electricity. At that marina there was no laundry, but laundry was available on base at a close distance. Alcohol stove was on board, and only an ice box available so Ice was a regular expense as well as food. All told Probably cost me less than $450-500 a month for single living with maintenance involved since my boat was in good repair.
I've always wanted to live on a boat. The idea of living on the sea always interested me, since I grew up watching allot of things like boat documentaries and cartoons like flapjack. Thanks for giving me an idea! I'm gonna be moving out in a few years so I'm looking forward to this.
Do you live the boatlife yet?
I'm a massive alcoholic Army vet Irish guy living in Boston. I want to live in a house boat out the harbor to save money. I'm 30 and single. This sounds like a good choice.
don't get too drunk and fall overboard
No worries about that! I was lifeguard 15 years ago! Only worry I would have is the cold water.
But Florida though, sounds like a better destination.
RightAway87 Had a friend at S.F. Marina come home drunk a few years ago. He fell in and they found his body the next morning. Get some help at AA, it saved my life........
You guys should check out the Great Lakes on your boat.
Good video. Living aboard is awesome, but we switch back and forth from houses to boat and usually at a marina. And another note, we own Endless Summer Charters in the Keys :) So we're going to need our name back (j/k). Happy and safe travels!
I spent a lot of time on boats as a kid, and it is my adult dream to do so again soon. This is super helpful- there's definitely some things that would be different for me because of my location and being on my own, but it does put a lot in perspective. Also- your boat is wonderful. Trawlers are so homey.
In California it’s $ 25 -$ 35 per pump out, but usually free if you rent a slip. Dumping overboard anywhere in California is illegal and ALL treatment and dump systems are no longer legal here. Live aboard harbor locations are getting scarce and the good ones (not section 8) are expensive.
Wow that’s crazy expensive! It’s unfortunate because prices like that will encourage people to dump overboard even if it is illegal 😬
Thanks I need that info. thinking of making a boat my second home looking at a 42' sports fisher. want to fish the gulf and Caribbean by 50.
Thank you! This was very helpful! I’m thinking of moving to a houseboat in the future.
I have a question? How do you make $1040.00 a month living on a boat?
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Very informative and helpful Thanks.. Smooth sailing
I like it. Live like pirates that's awesome. I'm doing it some day. I like the anchoring out deal but how is it when a storm hits. Only thing I would get nervous about.
Victor L. Fazio III would seem maybe you could leave pr avoid the path? If you knew it was coming that is and had the time.
You guys are awesome!! Love your videos. Keep up the great work
Great channel!! Congrats on being the creator on the rise today!!! Amazing life!! Im a Florida youtube myself!! Orlando so way more inland! hahah
Where do you find insurance on older boats? Boat U.S. for example doesn't insure boats over 40 years old and others appear to be following that trend.
Very helpful
Great life
Enjoy it guys
You guys are a cute couple it's a beautiful thing to be living like this out on the open ocean! You sweety a great example to the young who should consider this life style as it is special and not so stressful like the everyday rat race we all have been lead to believe to be the norm. Good bless you both and your cool doggy be safe and sail on wards🚣♂️🚣♀️Thanks for your video info!❤
Now heres my question. What do you do for income? i have my eye on a 40×20 houseboat that im thinking about getting. Ill be floating it from the Tennessee river to the gulf. Where I plan to live.
Interesting! Thank you.
Great vid! I have a serious question. What do you guys do when god forbid severe or inclement weather comes along? Do you take the dingy to shore and post up in a hotel? Or drive to better weather? Also insurance? Happy boating!
I always worry about bad weather and high waters..I would love to live on a boat though!
Go for it! Bad weather and high waters are definitely one of the many things you always have to keep in mind when living on a boat, but in our opinion it is so worth it! Thanks so much for watching!
@@Tulasendlesssummer I just might do it! :D
cool video. Count yourselves lucky your in the states / florida coast. Been looking at a similar option in Europe...not as easy, nothing is cheap now, every loophole seems to be closing....the cost of fuel, mooring etc high - oh well back to the drawing board! ps just noticed this video was 2 1/2 years ago....what are you guys doing now? Still living on the boat? update please!!!!
Very cool and informational. Thanks.
How much does it cost to live on a boat ? AS MUCH AS YOU HAVE ! But you did a great job in putting out the numbers. Of course this is your minimum... and maintenance can be a lot higher when something big breaks... Like to eat out and drink a lot of alcohol? cha ching!
I figure when I retire in 3 years it will cost me about 1500 per month, and that is with a $250/month savings for delayed maintenance fund. I don't drink, eat healthy, won't use insurance, but will have a older boat that will need a lot of upkeep. Initial costs around 40-50K. And factor in a full refit at year 5 or so.....
as of 11/1/2018… i'm still living on my small houseboat that is only 55ft long and 15ft wide (its a 2 bedroom 2 bathroom with full size bathtub as well)…. I've been living on my houseboat for over 5 years on a large fresh water lake in Georgia just north of Atlanta. i pay $375/month for a covered 50ft slip, uncovered slips can be much less, (around $275/month)… i pay on average about $125/month for dock electric, i never use my generators, because the power rarely goes out for more than a total of 4 hours per year. Water/garbage and hi-speed WiFi here at this marina is free, and i don't really have engine maintenance because i never drive my houseboat, i keep a 20ft pontoon for that. Pump out for my houseboat's sewer is only $50/month. i have a DirecTV satellite dish i mounted myself to the dock for a better signal. ( i have about 50 channels and pay $50/month) So, there you have it…. i'm spending less than $650/month living "on" the water. If i didn't keep 5 separate refrigerators running at all times and weren't under a covered slip and were happy with about 12 free airwave TV channels…. you could easily live on a boat for less than $450/month. ( some of the fancier marinas cost about 40% more for the slip fee because of armed guards and gated entrances and floating restaurants ) For those that are thinking about living on a boat…. mine cost under $35,000 5 years ago…. i've seen boats like mine go for as little as $15,000 for a fixer upper to up to $65,000 for top of the line upgrades and remodels…. meaning, granite counter tops through out and 6 man hot tubs on the upper deck roof with an extra full kitchens and electric black out curtains.
Interesting. On Allatoona by any chance?
Loving this. Thinking about doing the same shortly
Nice breakdown and well presented.
1040 $ a month and you live free, in the best places in the world, the best view ever and an awesome weather. omg it is cheap. awesome
Great video guys I’m currently researching about living on a boat looking at 43 Viking don’t plan on doing any traveling as I do have a job in land just curious about how to go about not having to be on a dock all the time. Where in Florida are guy if not mind me asking I’m in west palm beach very new to this need some help thank you
How did you come by your boat? How long have you had it? I've been looking for awhile now & agree the engine you have in Tula is a great engine for a trawler!
Do not feel so bad. We spend $27k a year on food. Im figuring we can cut that back a bit. Just by owning a boat. We eat more on boat then going out. Service is not so great anymore in LA. We just do it to get out. We cook better too! But if we had a boat we would be out! Plus I want one LoL Thanks for the Video!
Bro. You have the life I dream of!!!!
Absolutely fasinating, but yet inspirational as well. Very similar to r.v. living. Only you fish for maui maui instead of trout....lol
Just stumbled upon this channel and LOVE it ...We have been self employed our entire lives, have four kids(almost all grown), horses, dogs, a big farm, and a 1973 Trojan Sportfisher(our starter boat)..We are in the process of starting our life living on a boat during the New England winter months...will be selling our starter boat soon to find a trawler...I am really curious if you make any cash to live on doing other things or from You Tube sharing...I know others have asked and you have not answered yet but I truly hope you can share so the landlubbers out here can get the true picture...thanks and keep vlogging!
For the most part I am an ocean lifeguard for 2 months in the summer on Long Island and I teach kiteboarding for 6-8 months in the winter in FL. We are starting to make a tiny bit of money via youtube and patreon. Just a tiny bit but it shows that the passive income capabilities are there! What do you guys do for you self-employed business? Can you run it from a boat? You are going to love trawler life as long as you don't mind going a bit slower...
My husband and I are self employed. He makes the majority of our income with our landscape design and construction biz...We also own a horse farm...I teach riding lessons and also sell stuff...antiques, etc...I have also taught skiing...Currently, we are working on downsizing our farm and planning some changes to accommodate our desire to live part of the year abroad...
What about insurance? Is insurance expensive for that type of boat ? We are looking at a 1970 36' Grand Banks to possibly buy so I'm curious if it's affordable. I'm going to call and get a quote from boat us Monday. Thanks for any info 😊 love your videos ❤️
hi, ever figure out the estimate for insurance, would love to hear
@@bgjidija They told him and he passed out, hit his head and was no more. Always remember to sit down first. Its common in insurance offices just before they tell you your proposed monthly payment.
Your food costs is about the same as mine, for my wife and I One couple said Benamahas was cheap. Their cruising rates were high but the abundance of high quality sea food for spear fishing, more than made up for their sailing charges. They rarely ate out there.. They said lunch out for 3 with one beer each, costs them $200 US.
I'll share my experiences, I live on a 2015 sunseeker predator 68 with boat payments and insurance and food and water I play around 2500 a month but that's in the summer, in winter I like to keep it at about 1500 cause I don't move b/c of winterizing it and I use the outboard rib Stowe's away in the garage to get around
wow...my old lady would love this
Looks awesome living the dream man
THANK YOU for your video! It really helped
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching!!!
Interesting. I've always considered this life style but have no idea about how to go about it. I want a sail boat, a fairly good sized one and age doesn't matter that much if in good shape, what do I need to know to aquire one?
Enjoyed your video....thinking on doing something like this. I am from Nova Scotia, thinking on buying a boat in Florida living 6 months of winter. Then sail it back here in summer and sell it as boats are much higher here.
repairing and make it running as per the budget is best , and people travel long and look amazing to c people around travel and show case what they have that best out look
i used to be friends with a woman years ago who lived on a sailboat when she was young with her first husband before they had children. everybody thought they were so incredibly cool. they both had jobs in the boston area and kept their boat mostly docked for their jobs, but then sailed on weekends and vacations all around. they were both happy with this until they had a child and promptly moved off the boat. my friend said that she developed problems with her lungs from living on a boat and breathing in basically mold all around around her. i hope you guys are on to this matter and have your ventilation figured out, because she said it compromised her lung function at a young age. i lost touch with her cuz we were friends before the age of computers and people used to lose track of each other in the old days and she ended up fighting other battles, breast cancer and a divorce, and i just don't know how she is doing, but apparently because you are surrounded by water all around you while you sleep in an enclosed space, there is a greater risk of mold exposure.
thanks for the heads up. we run a dehumidifier often and make sure we constantly clean everything
Why not get a long hose and attach to your snorkel so you can stay down longer when scraping off the hull? Great video and v helpful thanks!
I hear that surgical gill modifications work wonders as well.
Awesome thanks for heads up
Thanks for the video. Do you think the newer fiberglass boats wouldn't require painting every year? Or say if I would have an aluminum hull, would that mean say more than 2 years maintenance? We're trying to lower maintenance as much as possible in terms of initial purchase, buying something that doesn't require that much maintenance
Damjan Cvetkov-Dimitrov Painting interval depends on the paint you use, not the hull material. Better paint (more expensive) generally lasts longer. In the case of aluminum hull boats, the paint, TBT, is even more expensive than copper bottom paint, which can get up to about 300 bux a gallon.
I don't know if you can apply TBT yourself, or need a yard tech to do it. Don't even know if you can buy it over the counter anymore.
acmeopinion factory I guess we're set on getting anti-fouling paint on a fiberglass hull. Don't know how long that could last if we get the most expensive stuff out there.
Count on two years minimum even in tropical waters, given slow, displacement hull speeds and very light scrubbing when necessary. Don't scrub more than necessary, as you'll wear the paint down. More coats at the waterline will help, as that is where the most flora fouling will occur, the sunlight is strongest there and weed love it.
Cool. That sounds great and saves a ton on hassle and money. Remove from water every 2 years. Cool :) Thank you!
Now that we have an idea of expenses, how do you make the income to cover these expenses? Especially if you travel?
There is any insurance?
yup, marinas require insurance. could be 300k-million dollar policy requirement depending on the marina. I haven't checked into rates but figure what your min state requirements are for a car, much less right? so he's your boat insurance payments will be higher varying little based on detectable. living on a boat is actually pretty expensive. most of the population lives from paycheck to paycheck, one or two missed paychecks from homelessness. so if your an unusual character who is financially secure then go for it but while paying rent sucks, you have much more room, can put in notice for moving to new place if job changes unlike liveaboard. see many marinas don't allow live aboard so ya can't just sail near new job as you may like. have a car to get to job? well good but do ya want to commute from marina ya live in cause one closer to job doesn't allow liveaboard? not me. personally I say if ya wanna sail your best bet seems to be to just get smaller day cruiser and just be weekend warrior
where does the dog do his business?
The boat
In a better place.
That's the plan in the new year for sure.