The Most OVERRATED Player in NBA History!
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2022
- #shorts Wilt Chamberlain is the most overrated player in NBA history, and, if not for Russell Westbrook, it wouldn't be very close. Here's why.
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Also: HUGE shoutout to Thinking Basketball here on RUclips. The graph I showed in the vid is theirs. I can’t recommend their greatest peaks series enough
Figures you’d use Thinking Basketball as a source since you and him are the biggest Wilt slanderers, and you couldn’t be more incorrect and off-base. Wilt is top 5, any ranking outside of the top 10 is just flat out wrong.
@@HugoSoup57no slander just facts
Don’t go for wilt being over hyped he is not even close to being over hyped if anything he’s under to good rated
Wilt never gets his praise and hes extremely underrated.
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He gets plenty of praise y'all just don't look at it. Also fun fact the year wilt averaged 50 he didn't even average the most in the playoffs lmao
big L my guy said equivalent to scoring 40 oog in todays nba lol aint no one ever avg 40 ppg in modern nba lol. so you basically saying wilt would avg about 30+ ppg easy in this nba
Yeah but it’d be the equivalent of someone avg 40 in the modern NBA on 40 shot attempts for a team barely in the playoffs. LeBron could avg 40 if he wanted to but it wouldn’t help his team bc it wouldn’t be as efficient
@@AndrewFenichel lebron had 56 the other day to carry his team to the win… what were you saying?
@miguelzaibatsu he stopped replying to you because he knew you’re right.
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@@Hoop_Life00 Could *Avg* 40. Dropping 50 and averaging 40 are very different
U technically just said that he carried his team until he didn’t have to
But the issue is he carried his team to mediocrity lol. Basically he couldn’t be the best player on a good team
No he didnt carry shit, did he win when he averaged 30+, no ofc. When he stopped shooting so much the team play was much better and they won with him being third and fifth best scorer on his team
@@zavorica What? The same team with Elgin Baylor, Gail Goodrich, and Jerry West???
@@AndrewFenichel how did he lead his team to mediocrity
Also it's funny u mention his scoring went down in the 70s went he was 34 to 36 on the lakers so ofcourse his points decline because of age
Also wilt had no superstar players next to him when he played for the San Francisco warriors
Compared to a superstar player in jerry west who average close to 30 ppg .Wilt had to score alot of pints for his team to win and in the 70s with age and also with a superstar player jerry west he didn't have to or need to average 30 points per game
@@AndrewFenichel Season before wilt debut the sixers were 32-40 the season wilt debuted
the sixers were 49-26 and lost to a hall of fame celtics team in 1960 playoffs
1961-1962 49-31 again lost to a hall of fame celtics in 7 games
1964-1965 lost to a hall of fame celtics in 7 games
1965-1966 san francisco were 35-45 after wilt left
The sixers were not a playoff team and was one of the worst teams before wilt debut and became one of the worst teams after wilt left
Mavericks got better after nash left, okc made the playoffs without russ in 2020, clippers made the playoffs 2 seasons after chris paul left.
Wilt had a good impact on that san francisco team
Wilt with the sixers were 55-25 and again lost to a great celtics team
Lakers team experience their most wins with wilt, sixers experience their most wins with wilt in 1967-1968, san francisco experince their most wins with wilt with 55. Can u say that for for most nba superstars of the 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000, 2010, 2020s,
Lakers went from 60-22 in 1972-1973 with wilt and next season without wilt went 47-35 losing in the 1st round.
Wilt was great without scoring alot of points, teams got worst after wilt left and teams got better went wilt arrive
I don't see how wilt is overrated.
If you are putting up 50 points a game nobody else is eating of course he wasn’t a team player
Exactly man. He needs so many shots
okay but this still doesn't explain how he's overrated as a player
Yeah it does lol, it’s basically saying he put up empty stats. His teams weren’t good when he was scoring 50ppg
Ok and… isn’t the point of basketball to win not put up stats?
Bro he was playing against plumbers, he’s a great athlete just not a top 8 basketball player
Some People call him the GOAT that’s why
@@AstroSully he's gotta be top 3.
Bro he is a legend of his time, there is no need to compare him to the players and the game at this current time…
But dude I’m not, I’m comparing him to the players and the game during his own era lol
@@AndrewFenichel Not really because you are comparing the pace of play in Wilt’s era “the 60’s” to the present NBA’s pace of play today. And yeah so maybe he got worse once his team got better in the 70’s but he was still a legend of his time putting up insane numbers that nobody has ever seen from a player before because he was the best offensive player on his team while the rest of his teammates were not as great as he was and were not capable of doing the things that Wilt could. Lol
Plus he would still be a legend of this time putting up 40ish points a game although the game is a lot more different today than it was in the 60’s so the outcome of him playing today would be way more different than him playing in his era, that is why you just shouldn’t compare people from the 60’s to the present day NBA.
@@AndrewFenichelok so he was wayyyy better
@@creakybenchbricksimmons5013he put insane numbers because his teammates never got to have the ball. Which is why his team were barely average on offense.
Definitely agree wilt is so overrated
Literally everytime anyone says anything good about Wilt they're met with the same reply "against plumbers and firemen"
@@sir_sacke literally was playing against them how hard is it to understand
@@name_s but he didn't. Only casuals think he played against bums
@@sir_sack Walt Bellamy averaged 31 and 19 as a rookie; the stats are so inflated in that era because of the high pace. A 50-point per game season in this era with 38 minutes per game would be around 37 ppg.
@@name_syea and every 3 curry made should be discounted as well, because 3 pointers in todays game are inflated...also player minutes and total games in the 90s and 2000s were inflated...the game was played at a slower pace so of course player could play longer...the ran up and down the court 20+ less times...also blocked shots were inflated in the 90s, because there was no 3 seconds...also assist are inflated today compared to the pre 80s decades because they were called more strictly back then...
This doesn’t add anything to him being overrated, this is just a random correlation, you could say he scores more when his team isn’t efficient and scores less when his team is efficient cuz he doesn’t need to score
This is just sad really. Cmon. Wilt is not overrated he is a generational physical specimen who was ahead of his time. Can’t we just appreciate greatness
You know he led the league in assists as well, right? You just proved that when he played on bad teams he picked up record levels of slack.
Yea, if one guy is taking all the shots, no one is gonna wanna play.
He was scoring less because he didnt need to score a lot
I agree Wilt is overrated. Also think MJ is in the discussion for most overrated players. Don't come at me Jordan Jockers just my opinion.
How is wilt overrated? He literally scored 50ppg a season. He also played great defense. He literally gets more backlash than good. Not to mention he also could lift 500 lbs, had a 40 inch vertical. Just ask an older nba fan. They know people like wilt, bill, and others from the 60’s and 70’s are the goats.
What's Holden up how is mj overrated
U can't just say a player is overrated without giving reasons.
I mean just your stupid and ridiculous opinion
I want facts not opinions no reasons valid that jordan or wilt is overrated
Ok explain how MJ is overrated
genetics would be amazing in todays game too.
This is why the best ever to do it never makes sense. Every one always says that the past players weren’t as skilled.
Skill doesn’t make your the best player fundamentals do. That’s why your favourite ball handling skilful play isn’t doing sht to jokic and why they couldn’t do shit to Tim Duncan.
Wilt had the fundamentals and he was big and huge and aggressive and very competitive. This is what makes a player great.
Alan iverson is amazing but do you think he could beat wilt in a 1 v 1? Even lebron or micheal wouldn’t he is too powerful and too athletic
MJ and Wilt are two of the greatest players ever, so you’re completely wrong.
Not to mention, he is a playoff dropper.
The comment he is replying to says athletes not basketball player. Its different.
Alright Andrew, you can go to bed now
But just imagine him catching lobs on fast breaks in today’s nba
It’s crazy because he’s the best athlete in nba history
Buddy made no sense
Guys have been flopping ever since.
It’s kind of like James Harden on James Harden just was going for MVP and numbers but not winning now he’s going for winning
He was the number 1 seed when he won mvp
@@eddyhoopin He wasn’t even the most valuable player on his own team that year. he couldn’t win one game without CP3 with a 3-2 lead to get past GSW.
Wilt would dominate todays world of basketball
He played against grandpa (grandpa can’t see)
No lol he played against bums
If he only won 2 rings when he was playing (and he was 2nd banana to Jerry West for his 2nd ring) then how would he dominate today?
Seriously, are people just incapable of using logic?
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@@22KViz He didn’t play against bums, that’s objectively false. He played against some of the best defenders and scorers and dominated almost all of them.
Well, In the early 60s his teams were filled with nobodies, but when he was less of a ball hog, he was playing with players like Jerry West, Gail Goodrich, Billy Cunningham, Hal Greer. The "Hall of Famers" that Wilt did play with had worse stats than 2022 Russell Westbrook.
Those hall of famers were on the Warriors.
you didn't prove anything, everyone back then had 30 to 40 more opportunities to score and grab rebounds but only Wilt got Wilt numbers. Not to mention your video has no context and is pretty much all conjecture.
Maybe cause everyone was a foot smaller then wilt
@@eddyhoopin every team in the league had a center 6'10 or taller in the 60s lmfao.
@@eddyhoopin The average height for centers was 6’10” and for players, 6’6” back then dummy
@@HugoSoup57 wow a 7’1 athletic black guy vs a bunch of 6’9-6’10 white guys
@@eddyhoopinlmao jokic? Is version huge black guys that are much stronger.
Jokic isn’t necessarily fast or skillful but he has fundamentals to the t. Wilt would be amazing in this era too
If wilt is overrated, bill "dick" Russel is what? 😂😂
you made no damn sense if wilt is scoring less of
course his teammates are gonna score more points and regardless the things that man did on the court can’t be diminished especially with that trash u we’re trying to push quadruple doubles if wilt was causing his team to continually lose because his second to none gameplay then i see that point but absolutely was not the case u picked the the wrong man to do a overrated segment on
Carmelo was every good at scoring that’s why it’s so good
You made averaging 40 sound like a bad thing LMAO. I think that year specifically his 50/25 season is the equivalent of a 30/15 season today. You could have also brought up the playoffs and how his efficiency went down and his points took a nosedive. Also he blew a 3-1 lead against Russell. I agree with the take that he’s overrated, but you did a bad job explaining it.
He has got over twenty three thousand rebounds he’s good at defence to
True basketball fans knew he was a selfish player offensively, but Wilt was also a damn good passer and defender. He's also a great individual player just not a good team player.
"He scored 100 points in a game." SHUT UP Bill Russell won 11 rings on your watch, and you always get knocked out of the playoffs until you get to jerry west at the end of your career. Do we even know if the 100-point game was real? We know stuff from 10 billion years ago and we still don't know if the backstory of a piece of paper with black crayon that says "100" was even real. Wilt doesn't qualify onto my top 15 all time players. He's 16th all time in my opinion.
One of the best rants in the history of sports podcasting
@@Yacbros.productions ITS FAKE. WE HAVE NO VIDEO FOOTAGE.
Nobody knows where the film is
Any ranking outside of the top 10 for Wilt is wrong, so you’re wrong. You lose credibility when you cherry pick and don’t provide context. Bill Russell almost always had better teammates than Wilt, and before you tell me about Wilt’s Hall of Fame teammates, most of them were either at the tail end or beginning of their careers when they played with Wilt. Stop the Wilt slander, he’s top 5 of all time.
@@HugoSoup57 this whole comment is a quote don’t get so worked up about it
Wilt had much better teammates in the 70's
In the 70s wilt was on a super team so that’s obvious
Wilt> bill russell
Or you mean when he joined actually good teams lol 76ers and Lakers for the good offensive teams no wonder his teams offense was better..
Man you just salty that the wizards are bad my guy
This is wrong just wrong
There’s a reason Wilt’s teams always lost to Bill Russell’s Celtics. Wilt was the king of empty stats
Exactly he is unbelievably overrated
Facts
Wilt is the GOAT, you little girls just can't accept the fact that he's better than your favorite players.
What bro this man drop 70 bills head and losses but he still droped 70
Well of course your gonna lose to a team like the 60s Boston Celtics are we also gonna say players like John Stockton and Karl Malone are overrated cause they always lost to the bulls?
Selfish? Sure, hence why the rest of his team didnt do much offensively. Overrated? Not quite
Quintuple Double
I still disagree
In my opinion don't get mad y'all but I think Michael Jordan is overrated don't get mad and no I never watched him ah so it's my opinion
It’s still impressive
Ignore these haters bruh. Id also add that wilts scoring didnt contribute to winning and he played with many hall of famers. He was a ballhog 😂
Wilt played with hall of famers that were either at the beginning or the end of their careers. Wilt never played with a hall of famer at the peak of their career. Do some research before posting stupid comments.
Can u name be a hall of fame players wilt played at their peak or prime other than jerry west from 1959-1968 I will wait.
By the way elgin bayloy peak was in 1965 and his prime ended in 1966
if his scoring the constribute to wins why did teams suddenly get worst after he left
san francisco missed the playoffs 1966, sixers went back to being one of the worst teams, 1974 lakers got knocked out of the 1st round
Haters!? Andrew and anyone who calls Wilt overrated are the haters. He’s underappreciated today if anything, not the opposite way around. Bill Russell almost always played with better teams and that is an indisputable FACT. Wilt played with HOF teammates when they were either at the beginning or the end of their careers, idiot. Wilt’s scoring contributed to wins in the regular season, he just came up short in the playoffs. You are ignorant and lack context
Wilt averaging a solid 15 and 10 today
That argument is weak, like i agree wilt is overrated, but again, you are conpating a 60s player with a player right now, did wilt have more than 60 years of ball Knowledge that nba players today have? Did wilt have all this new equipment nba players today have? Did wilt even have the same rules? Answer is no
@@TiredOfthisstuff Wilt is not overrated, he’s underappreciated if anything. Anyone who has him not in the top 10 is just wrong.
He would average 30+ and 20+ today
@@HugoSoup57 just stop, Game has evolve a lot, wilt stats are inflated due to a much higher pace of Game, he only had those crazy stats because he played like 48 minutes which i doubt he would be abled to replicate in todays nba, plus, again, more than 50 years of basketball have been played, his game is outdated as it should,
@@TiredOfthisstuff Wilt would still averages more than 15 and 10 lmao
I don't know about that matching me the most overrated all-time NBA great is Kobe Bryant not wilt
Thank you 😂🎉
most UNDER rated player in history. he gets so disrepeted. wilt would crush anyone in any era easily
No tf he wouldn’t he would be like a domantas sabonis 2.0
@@eddyhoopin You nephews are so ignorant, he would be the best center in the league by far if he played in today’s league. He would probably be the best player in today’s league tbh.
I hate the comments sad he dummy it hurt me I'm a big fan don't be mean to him it's his opinion
Because the teams were bad
Nah Bill Russell is
This is the 2nd worst take in the history of mankind. Saying "I think overall, Hitler led an admirable life," is the only one worse.
Watch ONE bio that's longer than yall 7 min attention span, and then watch a few of those like, "NBA players talk about Wilt/top Wilt stories"
The guy basically half-assed his entire career.
And he "stopped" scoring because he got called out for basically being a ball hog. He led the league in assists.
Finally, no team can win with that kind of, let's call it "iso dominance," unless he's somehow averaging 100 a game, and even then MAYBE, because the odds of anyone else averaging even lowwwww double digits, is slim to none.
This is a true statement, period, not only because BASKETBALL, but if I can swing around my hidden math nerd-ousity, from a mathematical standpoint, it could very well be impossible for a TEAM to make the playoffs if a dude is putting up even 100 a game. If u have taken multiple advanced math classes, or even if u haven't but u just dig numbers/statistics/trig, you'd see it in a second.
I know im coming off like Mr. Angry, Private Pompous, or even the dreaded CAPTAIN iSAAC IRATE 😅 .... but you obv lose something over text....
That said, I'm sorry but if you can't see the PROBLEM with any player averaging 50 a game on an NBA TEAM, then you need to go back to Basketball A&M Tech State of Ohio University of God (last 2 words there is referencing div III ASSEMBLIES OF GOD btw, lol)
Not reading allat wilt played firemen and plumbers just cope
@@eddyhoopinbro called bill russell, kareem, walt bellamy, big O, jerry lucas, jerry west, elgin baylor, prime nate thurmond, hal greer, willis reed, etc. plumbers and firemen 💀💀💀
If you sit down and watch a 60's game you could see how their skill level is worse than the g league
not reading that declaration of independence bill russell>>>>>>>>>>
@@name_somg lmao.
What is skill? Is jokic skillful? They played fundamental basketball.
Obviously you can say the game advanced but if he was born today he would have that knowledge.
You don’t compare a legend based on another era but rather what he did in his era. If he was born today he would not be called ball hog for putting 100 he would be praised.
No kobe is
Kobe is most overrated
He won 2 titles as the main big on 2 teams...come on now...the most overrated has to be barkley
Im convinced
Fastest pace ever dummy
What bout big O tell us how he’s bad
Haha agreed that the Big O is in a similar category bc of the stat inflation and not winning a chip until he joined Kareem on the Bucks
@@AndrewFenichel kareem never one without a hof point guard, and was swept mutiple times in the play offs without magic or oscar...also kareem also has empty stats because he played in the trash 70s also the the early 70s was just as fast as the 60s...so...
@@JohnnyRodgers3 and the 70s are definitely the weakest era of basketball even worse than the 60s
@@JohnnyRodgers3ok and he still won with washeder Robertson so now what
@@Christzo18 the 60s was the 2nd best era of basket ball
Bill Russell is better but they’re not even top 10 all time. They played against plumbers
Wilt and Bill Russell didn’t play against plumbers, all of you ignorant nephews keep regurgitating that nonsense but it’s just not true. They dominated because they were amazingly gifted, not because the competition was weak. They are both top 10, and if they aren’t in your top 10, your ranked list is flat out incorrect.
Bill, Kobe, and Bird are even more overrated, yet all of them are still obviously top 10. Wilt stopped scoring in the middle to end of his career because he realized that scoring as much as he did wasn't contributing to winning. There's a reason his scoring just fell off at the end of his career, he intentionally stopped shooting the ball and looked to pass it more
The dude even led the league in assists one year just to say he could
None of those players are overrated (by most people), they’re all top 10 players.
Kobe put up a lot of empty stats too. Second most overrated?
Kobe had a career TS% of 55%, he didn’t put up empty stats and he wasn’t inefficient.
@@HugoSoup57 Austin Reaves had a true shooting percentage of 69% last year. You can find an advanced stat for every player that makes them look good. If you can't admit Kobe was a high volume, relatively low efficiency scorer then you're blind
i think it makes him better if he’s dropping 50 a game on a below average team
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Wilt is a plumber
Someone who could bench press 500 lbs in his prime, can run a 40 yard dash in 4.6 seconds, jump 40” to touch the top of the 13 foot backboard, and could play 48 minutes a game is a plumber? Sure! You are so deluded and ignorant 🤡
Kareem to me is more overrated.
Kareem is arguably the GOAT, he’s top 3 of all time. Not overrated.
Wilt was a world class flake. But there is a laundry list of guys throughout history that were more “overrated”
My top 5 overrated/overhyped, in no particular order, include..
Derrick Rose
Ralph Sampson
Bill Russell
Carmelo Anthony
Reggie Miller
Reg n drose overrated tf😂😂
@@Supernigga569 I know what I said
@@troytaylor9000 how is reg and drose overrated 😂
@@Supernigga569
For D-Rose: Even before his injuries he was a one dimensional player. Was never a great jump shooter. Relied a lot on athleticism and driving to the hoop. Even his MVP year feels average in hindsight.
For Reggie: No question he was a great shooter, but to only make five all star games and never do better than make a third team All-NBA team in 18 seasons doesn’t make him a top 75 player all-time. He also has a rep for being clutch and the “Knick Killer” but New York beat his pacers more times in the playoffs and he had some ugly performances when Indiana could’ve made the finals in 94, 98 & 99
@@troytaylor9000 so drose is overrated cuz he was not a great shooter that is stupid also Reggie performed well in the playoffs he never had a star on his team I would see if u said ai was overrated