I just did this to my hurricane today. I can’t even believe how different the bike is. I also have the upgraded rear shocks from Go-Powersports. Thanks for the awesome idea and great instructions on this video. Cheers!
@hellcatdad3883 I'm glad it helped! It gets it stiffened up without being over the top. Trailmaster is a great bike and can last a long time if maintained and ridden respectively for what it is.
Thank you for making the video. I just ordered exactly what you used. Still waiting on my MB200 to arrive but I know from previous bikes/pit bikes this mod works well. Thanks again.
@@fatbuddycat Good to know. I’m still having problems with disc brake on the 224 bike? After a bit of riding the brake just doesn’t work anymore. Not sure what’s going on. I may upgrade again to a dual piston to tame the 224 beast. I’m also researching a new brake rotor. That might also help.
@@DIYWilly you can step up to a higher level caliper but it's going to start getting expensive next. The MCP systems are supposed to be pretty good and there is Brembo. If you don't want mini bike results your going to have to start using motorcycle parts. The biggest hang up is spacing everything out and making the hubs work. Brakes and foot pegs are my least favorite thing to figure out.
Awesome!!! I learned this by studying and asking questions from some other guys in the community. I know someone else has a video on it but I just cut out all the hibbity hoopla.
I really changes my rc cars. They are much faster than my mini bike. The soft preload makes my bike a little too spongy. My Losi still can’t hit top speed safely but tuning really helped up top. 60 mph rc’s can have spectacular wrecks.
Hopefully I'll get to ride it today. This can be done with smaller forks too I believe. Only difference should be ml of fork oil and the spacer size. I studied a little bit and my general concensus is that everything thats done to a factory fork should be done in increments. I would try the 20wt fork oil and there is a motorcycle spring that can be swapped in as well.
@@sambyrum5276 lol! Tell that to my Doodlebug.....egads man....that thing is a lot to handle! I've been thinking about adding a suspension fork and 10 inch steel wheel just to help plane out....perhaps there is such a thing as TOO small.....😬.....
Thanks! I've had some help from other great builders/enthusiasts all along the way. It's 💯% a community effort as I'm learning all these modifications as I go.
@@fatbuddycat First maitnance front suspension mini bike vid i ever watched i have the motovox front suspension i have to find a vid on them there just like the megamoto i believe only they have one bolt on them instead of the 2 like the mm80's
Thanks! If you're into mechanical function it's easier to take a liking to. I can pretty much use a rag, some scrap cardboard and a Rattle Can from any angle and keep on trucking!
Thank You FBC!! I been waiting since 2020 for someone to make this video!! Didn't even know how to get em open, but then again never took em off to see how lol. Good Job! Thanks again for another great video!
I weigh 170 pounds and they feel pretty spongy to me. Definitely considering trying this, i’ll put it on the list of 500 other mods I want to do to my Trailmaster.
@@genfab3365 the stock rear shocks left the party 6 months ago! I have the 11 inch Gas shocks from Studz Racing. I covered that back when I cut the frame in half.....they've worked great ever since!
I hope so! It made a HUGE difference. I can throw the front end and wheelie through stuff now. I grew up riding rough trails and like to get my front up. As for turning I was diving the front and pulling the rear around where now I can plant the front and counter steer the rear better. I have a short ride video pov ride video done you'll notice how much smoother my transitions are.
Those were some decent reservoir shocks I got back in the day. It was better than stock. They added more dampening which improves traction by actively controlling the swingarm.
@@fatbuddycat yeah I’m a bigger guy and my bike did decent on the trails but could def use some more travel, thank you for the quick reply! I’ll look around
I laughed when it was 100 ml. That's around the amount that small dirt bikes of the 1970's used. As the years went on the tubes got bigger requiring more oil.
What does the oil in these forks even do? There isnt a shock for the oil to flow through. And do you know if the hurricaine comes with the improved gps shock or the old one like in this video?
Take the shocks apart and look at how they work. It's not a hydraulic piston, suspension works with a dampening and preload. The springs control how stiff the suspension is and the oil deals with the movement (compression and rebound). Hurricane just has a front brake on the tube, same suspension as the regular Trailmaster. GPS also didn't create the Hurricane, they just like to act exclusive.
Worst part about Trailmaster is the frame and suspension geometry. They had issues with the gen1 (looked like a Warrior with rear suspension) frame cracking and tried to fix it with the engine mount rather than redesign the whole bike. The long shaft engine to line up the torque converter is pretty dumb too....as are the crazy cheap plastics, foot pegs and seat. Buncha crap.
@@fatbuddycat yeah I know they just get the Chinaman to make everything then sell it to us but people say good things about it and I want a full suspension mini bike. From your experience since you have a ton should I get the trail master or the Coleman rsv? Or are there better options even? Doing road and trail riding and light stunts nothing crazy
I got a Ruger 10/22 rifle and by the time I was done upgrading parts I wasn't sure if anything was still an original Ruger part other than the fire control mechanism. I don't think you have a Trailmaster bike anymore.
I have terrible ocd/adhd and have a hard time interacting with people, my channel isn't even monetized. I do this to help others as I simultaneously better myself with practice. I try my best not to swear or go off on my frustrations. I've considered starting another channel that is less serious so I could be more natural but chances are I will offend a lot of people who think I'm slow. 😆
I just did this to my hurricane today. I can’t even believe how different the bike is. I also have the upgraded rear shocks from Go-Powersports. Thanks for the awesome idea and great instructions on this video. Cheers!
@hellcatdad3883 I'm glad it helped! It gets it stiffened up without being over the top. Trailmaster is a great bike and can last a long time if maintained and ridden respectively for what it is.
thANK YOU!!
You're welcome! This is an excellent modification for these bikes.
Thank you for making the video. I just ordered exactly what you used. Still waiting on my MB200 to arrive but I know from previous bikes/pit bikes this mod works well. Thanks again.
Awesome! You're welcome!!
My front forks are a little bit bent so I need to do that same upgrade one day.You always hooking up your mini bikes better than ever.
I've been wanting to try this for a very long time.
Great idea
Works great to add some stiffness and take out the sag.
That's what I need to do.. Thanks for the information and sharing!
No problem! It feels like a big improvement just pushing on the handlebars.
@@fatbuddycat Good to know. I’m still having problems with disc brake on the 224 bike? After a bit of riding the brake just doesn’t work anymore. Not sure what’s going on. I may upgrade again to a dual piston to tame the 224 beast. I’m also researching a new brake rotor. That might also help.
@@DIYWilly Wowzers! That's a pretty simple design on that single piston brake too. Is it broken or just not strong enough?
@@DIYWilly you can step up to a higher level caliper but it's going to start getting expensive next. The MCP systems are supposed to be pretty good and there is Brembo. If you don't want mini bike results your going to have to start using motorcycle parts. The biggest hang up is spacing everything out and making the hubs work. Brakes and foot pegs are my least favorite thing to figure out.
@@DIYWilly what about the Trailmaster brake and adapter? The dual piston brakes have more meat on the wheel side but it should clear those 8s.
Thank you for this great information..
I did this to the bt & it’s totally awesome.
It didn’t have spacers & fit 9/16 sockets perfectly.
Awesome!!! I learned this by studying and asking questions from some other guys in the community. I know someone else has a video on it but I just cut out all the hibbity hoopla.
I’ve always thought my gopowersports forks were too soft. If I change the oil and space em out I can tune them just like my rc cars. Gamechanger!
I really changes my rc cars. They are much faster than my mini bike. The soft preload makes my bike a little too spongy. My Losi still can’t hit top speed safely but tuning really helped up top. 60 mph rc’s can have spectacular wrecks.
Hopefully I'll get to ride it today. This can be done with smaller forks too I believe. Only difference should be ml of fork oil and the spacer size. I studied a little bit and my general concensus is that everything thats done to a factory fork should be done in increments. I would try the 20wt fork oil and there is a motorcycle spring that can be swapped in as well.
@@sambyrum5276 I'm going to do this to my Vintage bike too. That fork is definitely not set up for adults from the factory!
@@fatbuddycat not setup for adults but that’s the fun part
@@sambyrum5276 lol! Tell that to my Doodlebug.....egads man....that thing is a lot to handle! I've been thinking about adding a suspension fork and 10 inch steel wheel just to help plane out....perhaps there is such a thing as TOO small.....😬.....
Where did you get those handlebars? Any links?
Pro Taper SE Series 7/8" Standard Handlebars - XR 50/Jet Black a.co/d/9Gj6DRt
Can use a peice of pvc tubing and a washer. Burley supplies that for motorcycle dropins so will work for this being a smaller setup.
I like it!!
im lovin the reinforced frame all customed out !!!!!!lookin mean homie 100%
Thanks! I've had some help from other great builders/enthusiasts all along the way. It's 💯% a community effort as I'm learning all these modifications as I go.
@@fatbuddycat First maitnance front suspension mini bike vid i ever watched i have the motovox front suspension i have to find a vid on them there just like the megamoto i believe only they have one bolt on them instead of the 2 like the mm80's
@@fatbuddycat my frony shocks pop up randomly like a crazy chick with tourettes syndrome lmao just be popin up outta no where
@@SpACeCruizeR2o3 lol which bike?
@@SpACeCruizeR2o3 I'm bringing my Warrior back so I'm going to be trying those too.
That bike looks awesome 👍
Thanks! If you're into mechanical function it's easier to take a liking to. I can pretty much use a rag, some scrap cardboard and a Rattle Can from any angle and keep on trucking!
Thank You FBC!! I been waiting since 2020 for someone to make this video!! Didn't even know how to get em open, but then again never took em off to see how lol. Good Job! Thanks again for another great video!
No problem! I tried to keep it short and sweet but captured all the steps.
I weigh 170 pounds and they feel pretty spongy to me. Definitely considering trying this, i’ll put it on the list of 500 other mods I want to do to my Trailmaster.
I'm 240! Imagine how soft it is for my considerable bulk!
@@fatbuddycat No kidding! Haha. I noticed you have the stock rear shocks on still. How do they feel for you? do you plan on upgrading?
@@genfab3365 the stock rear shocks left the party 6 months ago! I have the 11 inch Gas shocks from Studz Racing. I covered that back when I cut the frame in half.....they've worked great ever since!
I wish mini bike forks were like mtb bikes. So many choices
There's different springs, you can use poly spacers that flex like bump stops, different oil.....all kinds of cool tricks!
@@fatbuddycat I wish somebody would start an after market mini bike fork company
Fat buddy forks?
@@mklein5179 we really do need a better universal option for the big bikes.
Good stuff
I wish I did this sooner.....waaaay easier than anticipated.
Great video FBC! This is gonna help a lot of guys!
I hope so! It made a HUGE difference. I can throw the front end and wheelie through stuff now. I grew up riding rough trails and like to get my front up. As for turning I was diving the front and pulling the rear around where now I can plant the front and counter steer the rear better. I have a short ride video pov ride video done you'll notice how much smoother my transitions are.
what rear shocks are you using? do you like them? Im looking for some upgraded rear shocks. Thanks!
Those were some decent reservoir shocks I got back in the day. It was better than stock. They added more dampening which improves traction by actively controlling the swingarm.
@@fatbuddycat yeah I’m a bigger guy and my bike did decent on the trails but could def use some more travel, thank you for the quick reply! I’ll look around
I laughed when it was 100 ml. That's around the amount that small dirt bikes of the 1970's used. As the years went on the tubes got bigger requiring more oil.
It's definitely on the primitive side!
What does the oil in these forks even do? There isnt a shock for the oil to flow through. And do you know if the hurricaine comes with the improved gps shock or the old one like in this video?
Take the shocks apart and look at how they work. It's not a hydraulic piston, suspension works with a dampening and preload. The springs control how stiff the suspension is and the oil deals with the movement (compression and rebound). Hurricane just has a front brake on the tube, same suspension as the regular Trailmaster. GPS also didn't create the Hurricane, they just like to act exclusive.
Worst part about Trailmaster is the frame and suspension geometry. They had issues with the gen1 (looked like a Warrior with rear suspension) frame cracking and tried to fix it with the engine mount rather than redesign the whole bike. The long shaft engine to line up the torque converter is pretty dumb too....as are the crazy cheap plastics, foot pegs and seat. Buncha crap.
@@fatbuddycat yeah I know they just get the Chinaman to make everything then sell it to us but people say good things about it and I want a full suspension mini bike. From your experience since you have a ton should I get the trail master or the Coleman rsv? Or are there better options even? Doing road and trail riding and light stunts nothing crazy
I made spacers from some tubing I had in the shop - made a set for my Big Red MB200. The factory fork oil is questionable.
This is nice and firm for sure.
I got a Ruger 10/22 rifle and by the time I was done upgrading parts I wasn't sure if anything was still an original Ruger part other than the fire control mechanism. I don't think you have a Trailmaster bike anymore.
Lol it's all there somewhere! I just added a little pizazz....😬
Now you need to go jump some terraces and report back to us on the performance. Let us know what you think. I may have to try this out.
Lol this will be happening very soon!!
I wish you would speak normal. It’s very distracting. Sound like the basketball coach who’s teaching math.
I have terrible ocd/adhd and have a hard time interacting with people, my channel isn't even monetized. I do this to help others as I simultaneously better myself with practice. I try my best not to swear or go off on my frustrations. I've considered starting another channel that is less serious so I could be more natural but chances are I will offend a lot of people who think I'm slow. 😆