@kilter99: I totally agree with you. The more you practice the basics the more you understand how powerful it is. Ultimately, this understanding only applies when you reach the more advanced stages of training and you realize you don't need the more "fancy" moves.
When you're a shodan, you'll still do a lot of kihon. When you're a nidan, you'll still do a lot of kihon. Same for sandan, same for yondan....basics, basics, basics. I started in Isshin-ryu at age 14, went over to Shotokan at 18, and now, in my mid fifties, I'm still doing kihon. Maybe someday I'll get a decent maegeri or oizuki. Then again...keep at it. You're on the right path.
In my karate class a couple of students and I go to bars to pick fights with people there. It's great because we know karate and they don't so it is relatively easy for us to win. The problem is that sometimes some of us get injured. We figured that if we had our master come with us that we could at least diminish this risk. How do people here think we should propose this to him?
being a Black Belt Karateka is not an end. Rather, it's just a beginning. In fact, I think their training is really great. As for self defense, I bet they went through a lot of hardships and they have the proper mentality to take care of themselves when the real fight comes. What westerners don't understand is that patience is very important, that's why their skills suck. Man it's really good to be asian!
Even if they did not "suck" (which I agree many, but not all blackbelts shown here do), they should still make doing the basic kihon a priority. Westerners just love so much to do the fancy stuff instead, so tehir basic kihon never really improves.
lol Shin, but honestly I don't think it's a matter of being asian :-) I just think it's the mentality that's different. I've seen western training focus on the height of the kick for instance, while Japanese instructors will focus on the ankle that's on the ground and proper hip rotation.
why do you guys bother so much about how Shotokan practice kihon over and over again? even though they do advanced techniques, it still looks kihon to me. Karate's waza is all about kihon and basic, they focus on perfection of all basics since that what karate is all about. That's why karateka learn other stuffs like aikido, judo, etc.
listen fool I have train in wado ryu and Goju ryu since twelve, by the time I earned my brown belt, these basic techniques were already became second to nature! and of even shodan to juudan should always train basic techniques.
how can they defend themselves in a fight if all they learn is the same stuff over and over again? the sensei must be frustrated because they cannot do even a simple basic technique correctly and are black belts???>duh?
listen fool I have train in wado ryu and Goju ryu since twelve, by the time I earned my brown belt, these basic techniques were already became second to nature! and of even shodan to juudan should always train basic techniques.
@kilter99:
I totally agree with you. The more you practice the basics the more you understand how powerful it is. Ultimately, this understanding only applies when you reach the more advanced stages of training and you realize you don't need the more "fancy" moves.
I practise goju ry, but this videos are very beautifuls, congratullatios. This ist the really JKA karate. Gut luck arigato
When you're a shodan, you'll still do a lot of kihon. When you're a nidan, you'll still do a lot of kihon. Same for sandan, same for yondan....basics, basics, basics. I started in Isshin-ryu at age 14, went over to Shotokan at 18, and now, in my mid fifties, I'm still doing kihon. Maybe someday I'll get a decent maegeri or oizuki. Then again...keep at it. You're on the right path.
In my karate class a couple of students and I go to bars to pick fights with people there. It's great because we know karate and they don't so it is relatively easy for us to win. The problem is that sometimes some of us get injured. We figured that if we had our master come with us that we could at least diminish this risk. How do people here think we should propose this to him?
agree! kihon is everything really. seriously.
I totally agree?? how the hell did they get their black belts?
being a Black Belt Karateka is not an end. Rather, it's just a beginning. In fact, I think their training is really great. As for self defense, I bet they went through a lot of hardships and they have the proper mentality to take care of themselves when the real fight comes. What westerners don't understand is that patience is very important, that's why their skills suck. Man it's really good to be asian!
agree!
very good
Even if they did not "suck" (which I agree many, but not all blackbelts shown here do), they should still make doing the basic kihon a priority. Westerners just love so much to do the fancy stuff instead, so tehir basic kihon never really improves.
lol Shin, but honestly I don't think it's a matter of being asian :-) I just think it's the mentality that's different. I've seen western training focus on the height of the kick for instance, while Japanese instructors will focus on the ankle that's on the ground and proper hip rotation.
why do you guys bother so much about how Shotokan practice kihon over and over again? even though they do advanced techniques, it still looks kihon to me. Karate's waza is all about kihon and basic, they focus on perfection of all basics since that what karate is all about. That's why karateka learn other stuffs like aikido, judo, etc.
@MRmamalon666 como dije no molestes, y en lo demás lo dudo, pero bueno haya tú suerte.
listen fool I have train in wado ryu and Goju ryu since twelve, by the time I earned my brown belt, these basic techniques were already became second to nature! and of even shodan to juudan should always train basic techniques.
"Moving on beyond kihon"? What a silly idea...
how can they defend themselves in a fight if all they learn is the same stuff over and over again? the sensei must be frustrated because they cannot do even a simple basic technique correctly and are black belts???>duh?
they cannot do anything else because he burns them out by doing the same thing over and over and over!
listen fool I have train in wado ryu and Goju ryu since twelve, by the time I earned my brown belt, these basic techniques were already became second to nature! and of even shodan to juudan should always train basic techniques.