@@vambo13257 …you talkin non sense bra!!!..& yea finessing from low income folks from makin fraud claims is in the same umbrella so how the F is that any different from pullin skits on folks huh!!!..the only difference is ole boy is black & the other is white!!!!
Davis received $260,000 through false medical claims he knew were fraudulent. While it might feel like it's 'his' money, it's actually a pool meant to cover medical needs for all NBA players and their families. Fraud like this means $260,000 isn't available for someone who truly needs it. It's about preserving resources for genuine medical help.
@@christophercomitini8619 Agreed, Bonzi is giving his fellow NBA brethren a pass. The NBA Players' Health and Welfare Benefit Plan is funded through contributions from the league and the players' association, not directly from individual players like Glen Davis. This is like burning down your house and collecting on the insurance, then claiming it's not fraud because you paid into it. Fraudulent claims harm everyone relying on the fund for legitimate medical needs.
@@christophercomitini8619 Agreed, Bonzi is giving his fellow NBA brethren a pass. The NBA Players' Health and Welfare Benefit Plan is funded through contributions from the league and the players' association, not directly from individual players like Glen Davis. This is like burning down your house and collecting on the insurance, then claiming it's not fraud because you paid into it. Fraudulent claims harm everyone relying on the fund for legitimate medical need
@@trevorminniefield3568 if it was an HSA account, here is how that works. HSA’s are tax advantaged retirement accounts. Pre-taxes dollars are taken out of your check and you are reimbursed the full amount of healthcare services rendered. So you are getting tax free healthcare services. If the services you submit are fraudulent, you are essentially taking tax revenue away from the government. The medical practitioners are committing insurance fraud since they are billing for non-existent services. Like stealing your own car and submitting an insurance claim. Everyone involved sounds very guilty.
@trevorminniefield3568 he exsadderated big time basically for example he goes to the dentist but put it down as a whole root canal & new teeth like 50,000 worth wild shit like that , that drew red flags to eventually get then caught up sucks they made alot of $ they should b smarter then that but I feel bad for anybody locked
@@trevorminniefield3568 you can withdrawal directly from an HSA plain to reimburse yourself for medical expenses. You don’t need a bill until IRS comes knocking.
It's kinda tough to hear these guys talk about this stuff without actually knowing the details -- they're just speculating and leaning towards defending players without facts
Yea he says he doesn't know what they did, but still has an opinion on it. If you aren't trying to scam the system then you shouldn't be worrying about if this could happen to you. Almost all NBA players use their healthcare the way it should be used and are fine.
@@Eureca Seriously. You don't have to be a doctor to know you shouldn't get paid or reimbursed for fake injuries or expenses. Anyone with a conscience would know that's fraudulent.
He’s not saying the players are not wrong. He’s stating a factual claim that I as a player cannot do this without the Doctor telling me it’s cool to do or at least with the same scheme also
@@deelewis8061 He led with "I don't know exactly what they were doing." And then he suggested that former players with legitimate claims could get in the same trouble for using the available healthcare too much. Big Baby and all these other dudes involved were falsifying claims and getting money for healthcare they weren't entitled to. If you have a conscience you'd know what you were doing was fraudulent and dishonest at best. And it's not just their money - it's stealing money that every NBA player puts in for that healthcare.
The insurance system is supposed to work as the healthy paying for the sick. When the healthy former players steal money from the pool, it means that there is less money to go around for the sick former players. Therefore I have no sympathy for the scammers.
Its amazing how amazingly ignorant these dudes are. They should just admit they dont know how the system works and the reason prison time was called for. Its NOT his own money, its a system for other players with legit healthcare claims. Having more money surely doesnt increase intelligence. So, Sheed just downplays his actions as if its no big deal. Smfh
@@JamesBruceWayne I know healthcare business owners that’s been up successfully over 40 years and my brother was manager at of the biggest health insurance companies. I don’t know everything but I know some tricks in the system
He isn’t making excuses. I said if you took care of your bread you wouldn’t need this system. He basically saying what a lot of people are thinking. These ninjas ain’t smart enough to pull this out without some help.
The charges and crimes were not errors. Him and others knew what they were doing. Doctor appointments that never occurred. Hell there were times his azz was not even in the same state as the appointment location.
Could have avoided jail time if he agreed to pay back what he took and plead guilty like Tony Allen. Allen just did community service. Davis plead not guilty with a ton of evidence against him and refused to pay back initially. This is on him. The rest didn't get a harsh penalty at all except for Terrance Williams, but he was the ring leader. He was also threatening some of the players and the drs if they didn't go along with the scheme
It's the same thing as having insurance through a job where you get an HSA account which is used for medical things. Now if u try to use the money to buy tvs or something like that which people try to do is fraud. You are trying to use the money that hasn't been taxed.
He lied and submitted multiple fake documents to profit. He didn't just mix up some paperwork. They need to be honest instead of playing the victim card.
He stole from the players ( former and current) benefit and welfare fund. I have no sympathy for him. He earned millions yet he's stealing from a fund to aid players. He should/ could of gotten more time. He received a light sentence. Don't make excuses for his actions. He knew what he was doing. Take accountability you are a grown man. Think of the players in the 70's and 80's who were underpaid and marketed the league and game for today's players to earn millions and your stealing from them. Disgusting. Smh.
@@EZEKIELRAGE77When Favre's matter is brought to trial it will be discussed. At this time Glen Davis has been found guilty and sentenced to 3 years and 4 months for stealing from NBA players ( former and current). Let's stick to the topic. He is scum. Disrespecting those that sacrificed for him and others. Smh.
Mercy Triumphs Judgements. Let him redeem himself. We all made mistakes which God will condemn us for. But Jesus took all our wrongdoings even Big Ben.
At the end of the day it's stealing. If I make a fake claim to get my car fix and keep the money , that's stealing. It wasn't his money, they were stealing from the NBA
How about researching the topic before talking about it? Y’all just made shit up and then defended insurance fraud. I pay car insurance and if I make false claims about an accident/theft etc. for monetary gain, im going to jail, not that hard to understand.
Would have been better if the other guy read snippets of the article explaining what happened before asking rasheed and bonzi's opinion. They could have answered better
The oppressor make a system(s) to scam and fraud legally by their own laws, then tell you, that you committed fraud on them and take you to jail. The IRS is the perfect example and so is insurance. Insurance form contracts with the state to FORCE us to get insurance for certain things, and then when it is time to pay up they find the smallest loophole to squeeze through in order NOT to pay.
It's like a PPP loan Scam the Dentist got 3 years in prison so apparent so apparently nobody from this show or staff did their homework when one co host is crying wolf for the NBA players who defrauded the Government. Straight cowards to be rich and do that when you have hardworking single parents who are struggling .
why do we always pray an forgive guys for doin wrong an taking advantage of other. our people are the most forgiving race on this planet. they fd up an got caught. period
Bonzi says it's like stealing his own money. Is that how these players think? Well let me defraud the government's employment insurance program... it's my own money anyways, my personal piggybank. Really shows his ignorance on this matter.
Yea sheed saying "we ball players we dont know billing yada-yada" thats not an excuse, not even a little bit. You gotta always protect yourself, and protect your money and interests. Just saying "i dont know does not fly", especially if big money is involved which is what this sounds like.
He smiled and cracked jokes. 40 months. He will be at a facility for 3 years or less. Also, he is going to a low level facility or a camp. Now of he was going to a Medium level facility or a united states penitentiary. He would smile no more once he arrived.
Hollld up... how much money you gotta steal to get 3.5 years in prison with a clean record and professional career? 🤔 I know bank robbers that got less time! 🤣🤣🤣
Sheed said 60 or 70k .It was 5 million dollars over a four year period. Davis knew exactly what he was doing and he didn't make that much money when he played. He thought he could get away with it because he was probably broke and he simply got caught. Now these guys are making excuses for him and it's a shame that they won't just admit that he screwed up.
If he saying they bodies are messed up. Just imagine the bodies of a military veteran? Yet they got the help and resources. As a veteran we don't have shit...
Players always stick up for each other no matter what. Lol. They were scamming. The common insurance scams. Us regular folks know the penalties of insurance and IRS scams.
I keep telling people pull the PDF to the Department of Justice vs Terrance Williams. This was the biggest smoke screen in sports entertainment. It doesn’t add up from the ring leader to the time periods : 2017-2021? Aggravated Identify theft?🤔
Meanwhile Brett Frave still roaming out here!!
educate yourself, it is nowhere near the same thing
@@vambo13257What’s the difference?
Why are you worried about farve when we're talking about big baby? It's white NBA players who went down as well
@@vambo13257 …you talkin non sense bra!!!..& yea finessing from low income folks from makin fraud claims is in the same umbrella so how the F is that any different from pullin skits on folks huh!!!..the only difference is ole boy is black & the other is white!!!!
@@kevinhawkins20From my understanding the NBA pursued this. Had Brett did this against the NBA he would be in jail too.
Davis received $260,000 through false medical claims he knew were fraudulent. While it might feel like it's 'his' money, it's actually a pool meant to cover medical needs for all NBA players and their families. Fraud like this means $260,000 isn't available for someone who truly needs it. It's about preserving resources for genuine medical help.
How is it "his" money? The money is meant for legit medical claims not FRAUD.
@@christophercomitini8619 Agreed, Bonzi is giving his fellow NBA brethren a pass. The NBA Players' Health and Welfare Benefit Plan is funded through contributions from the league and the players' association, not directly from individual players like Glen Davis. This is like burning down your house and collecting on the insurance, then claiming it's not fraud because you paid into it. Fraudulent claims harm everyone relying on the fund for legitimate medical needs.
@@christophercomitini8619 Agreed, Bonzi is giving his fellow NBA brethren a pass. The NBA Players' Health and Welfare Benefit Plan is funded through contributions from the league and the players' association, not directly from individual players like Glen Davis. This is like burning down your house and collecting on the insurance, then claiming it's not fraud because you paid into it. Fraudulent claims harm everyone relying on the fund for legitimate medical need
@christophercomitini8619 re-read the post man, he just stated that he's not entitled to the money other than for medical purposes 🤣😂
All I can say is Karma! I know this man personally and Karma is crazy.
he billed for non-existent visits.
How did he bill himself?
@@trevorminniefield3568 if it was an HSA account, here is how that works. HSA’s are tax advantaged retirement accounts. Pre-taxes dollars are taken out of your check and you are reimbursed the full amount of healthcare services rendered. So you are getting tax free healthcare services. If the services you submit are fraudulent, you are essentially taking tax revenue away from the government. The medical practitioners are committing insurance fraud since they are billing for non-existent services. Like stealing your own car and submitting an insurance claim. Everyone involved sounds very guilty.
@trevorminniefield3568 he exsadderated big time basically for example he goes to the dentist but put it down as a whole root canal & new teeth like 50,000 worth wild shit like that , that drew red flags to eventually get then caught up sucks they made alot of $ they should b smarter then that but I feel bad for anybody locked
@@abandonedtownexplorations8736 lol he prolly snitche after and got everybody else knocked
@@trevorminniefield3568 you can withdrawal directly from an HSA plain to reimburse yourself for medical expenses. You don’t need a bill until IRS comes knocking.
It's kinda tough to hear these guys talk about this stuff without actually knowing the details -- they're just speculating and leaning towards defending players without facts
And the facts are available...why are they talking if they don't know the facts?....Too lazy to read a court filing.
I was thinking the same thing they sound uninformed as hell don't take much to find the facts
Yup. It was very uncomfortable to hear them. Like, read the memo, it’s a few sentences. Embarrassing honestly….
There are articles online with the facts. It was fraud.
Brett farve
It is NOT Their own money, it is the funds money that belong to the plan for the players as a whole. DON'T be crooked!
👍🏽👍🏽
Dude made a ignorant ass statement.
You are uneducated and ignorant.
They should be held accountable but 40months for 80k is wild. 12 months and restitution is more appropriate
🎶I got locked up, they won't let me out 🎶 Sheed is nuts 😂😂😂
Bonzi needs to do his research lol
Yea he says he doesn't know what they did, but still has an opinion on it. If you aren't trying to scam the system then you shouldn't be worrying about if this could happen to you. Almost all NBA players use their healthcare the way it should be used and are fine.
@@Eureca Seriously. You don't have to be a doctor to know you shouldn't get paid or reimbursed for fake injuries or expenses. Anyone with a conscience would know that's fraudulent.
He’s not saying the players are not wrong. He’s stating a factual claim that I as a player cannot do this without the Doctor telling me it’s cool to do or at least with the same scheme also
@@deelewis8061 He led with "I don't know exactly what they were doing." And then he suggested that former players with legitimate claims could get in the same trouble for using the available healthcare too much. Big Baby and all these other dudes involved were falsifying claims and getting money for healthcare they weren't entitled to. If you have a conscience you'd know what you were doing was fraudulent and dishonest at best. And it's not just their money - it's stealing money that every NBA player puts in for that healthcare.
The insurance system is supposed to work as the healthy paying for the sick. When the healthy former players steal money from the pool, it means that there is less money to go around for the sick former players. Therefore I have no sympathy for the scammers.
Crazy Work, all tht money and u tryna get over on health insurance.
Its amazing how amazingly ignorant these dudes are. They should just admit they dont know how the system works and the reason prison time was called for. Its NOT his own money, its a system for other players with legit healthcare claims. Having more money surely doesnt increase intelligence. So, Sheed just downplays his actions as if its no big deal. Smfh
Yup. Embarrassing to hear them talk about it. I’ll never listen to them again.
@@HenryStanCorrect
But Farve is safe?
I agree man smh
@@spike23s12 topic is not brett favre
Come on Bonzi and Sheed! These people knew what they were doing.
Insurance is a scam but its a necessity
THIS!!
The BIGGEST Ponzi Scheme is taxing the citizens. Because it is ILLEGAL!! 🐷🐷
A scam? Lmfao I see you don't know how insurance works
@@JamesBruceWayne I know healthcare business owners that’s been up successfully over 40 years and my brother was manager at of the biggest health insurance companies. I don’t know everything but I know some tricks in the system
@@JamesBruceWayne I’m humbly asking can you teach everything you know. I willing to learn.
SS is our money too so does that mean I can abuse the system too?? Stop making excuses for those involved SMH
SS is a scam by the government. That’s why you can file a SSA-521 form to opt out of SS
He isn’t making excuses. I said if you took care of your bread you wouldn’t need this system. He basically saying what a lot of people are thinking. These ninjas ain’t smart enough to pull this out without some help.
@@cross6588 🤦😂
@@richardwilliams5842 I would say something but I won’t. I don’t even know why I engaged a clown who can’t wear his hat straight
Man shut up
I have a healthcare savings account. If I hook up with a doctor and make false claims for a kickback, that's called fraud.
Sometimes playing ignant is their coping mechanism when they know dude guilty
The charges and crimes were not errors. Him and others knew what they were doing. Doctor appointments that never occurred. Hell there were times his azz was not even in the same state as the appointment location.
Could have avoided jail time if he agreed to pay back what he took and plead guilty like Tony Allen. Allen just did community service. Davis plead not guilty with a ton of evidence against him and refused to pay back initially. This is on him. The rest didn't get a harsh penalty at all except for Terrance Williams, but he was the ring leader. He was also threatening some of the players and the drs if they didn't go along with the scheme
It's the same thing as having insurance through a job where you get an HSA account which is used for medical things. Now if u try to use the money to buy tvs or something like that which people try to do is fraud. You are trying to use the money that hasn't been taxed.
there's legit claims and there's fraudulent claims. it's pretty easy to determine. No sympathy.
its crazy especially if it's their own money..my friend ex- fiancé stole over 70k from him and only got 5 months and ordered to pay restitution
Its not their own money. These dudes are basic in their knowledge of anything off the court. Big dummy davis got what he deserved.
He lied and submitted multiple fake documents to profit. He didn't just mix up some paperwork. They need to be honest instead of playing the victim card.
just like your boy bret farve!!
Fraud is fraud.. it's not his money. Just because you keep your money on the bank doesn't mean you can rob it..
I hope Big Baby do his time and come out a better person he can use this low point in his life to get himself together and help others
“Rookies!“ - Brett most interceptions in nfl history Favre
He stole from the players ( former and current) benefit and welfare fund. I have no sympathy for him. He earned millions yet he's stealing from a fund to aid players. He should/ could of gotten more time. He received a light sentence. Don't make excuses for his actions. He knew what he was doing. Take accountability you are a grown man. Think of the players in the 70's and 80's who were underpaid and marketed the league and game for today's players to earn millions and your stealing from them. Disgusting. Smh.
Who? Brett Favre?.
@@EZEKIELRAGE77When Favre's matter is brought to trial it will be discussed. At this time Glen Davis has been found guilty and sentenced to 3 years and 4 months for stealing from NBA players ( former and current). Let's stick to the topic. He is scum. Disrespecting those that sacrificed for him and others. Smh.
Mercy Triumphs Judgements. Let him redeem himself. We all made mistakes which God will condemn us for. But Jesus took all our wrongdoings even Big Ben.
@@TheRealTruth533Probably one of the only reasonable comments here. The knucklehead was greedy. He got exactly what he deserved like you said.
facts!
At the end of the day it's stealing. If I make a fake claim to get my car fix and keep the money , that's stealing. It wasn't his money, they were stealing from the NBA
No excuses, but 40months is excessive for a victimless crime. Restitution and 12months should have been enough
Ninjas its not bullshit its dumb they knew what they was doing
The fact that he’s broke is insane.. kinda makes sense tho.. remember that video on the plane with chicken and money
How about researching the topic before talking about it? Y’all just made shit up and then defended insurance fraud. I pay car insurance and if I make false claims about an accident/theft etc. for monetary gain, im going to jail, not that hard to understand.
C'mon now that'll be too easy!! Let's just defend the players by saying it's "THEIR" money LOL
That's tough... sometimes we slip... hopefully, his time goes by fast
Gave him a 3.5 he'll nawl
In reality more than likely he’s only going to do 1 and a half
I love how the blame shift everything like Big Baby didn’t know what he was doin
he black he another victim of white supremaicst
Did Tony Snell get his healthcare plan he needed
Two different things, they 'STOLE' bottom line..
@@andrejohnson1703duhhhhh I’m asking about Tony Snell tho he really needs it
@@andrejohnson1703 OK but... Did he get his healthcare plan?
No he didn't great point I get exactly what u saying
@@andrejohnson1703 so did Brett Favre
Would have been better if the other guy read snippets of the article explaining what happened before asking rasheed and bonzi's opinion. They could have answered better
Guys they are submitting false claims. It would be no different if i submitted false claims to my HSA and im just a regular guy.
Beyond CRAZINESS 🤦🏽♂️ Fully 💯💪🏽
When asked for comment, big baby replied "wah wah wah, its not fair"
Don't file fake claims that you had services and you didn't. Please stop making excuses. Rasheed Wallace has no idea what he is talking about.
WTF they talking about? Big Baby and those other dudes knew they were committing insurance fraud. Come on man.
They just gave their opinion without even knowing the facts of the case. I'm glad all these players were held accountable
THAT MEANS TONY ALLEN,.. GOTTA GO, TOO!!!
TA pled guilty and repaid over $400,000
They finna have him in the hollering “GUARD”
IYKYK
How about accountability?!? Those ninjas KNEW better and did it anyway.
The oppressor make a system(s) to scam and fraud legally by their own laws, then tell you, that you committed fraud on them and take you to jail.
The IRS is the perfect example and so is insurance.
Insurance form contracts with the state to FORCE us to get insurance for certain things, and then when it is time to pay up they find the smallest loophole to squeeze through in order NOT to pay.
Wtf does the "oppressor" have to do with these low IQ dudes stealing? Nobody forced them to lie and steal from the players benefit funds.
It's like a PPP loan Scam the Dentist got 3 years in prison so apparent so apparently nobody from this show or staff did their homework when one co host is crying wolf for the NBA players who defrauded the Government. Straight cowards to be rich and do that when you have hardworking single parents who are struggling .
I still feel that PPP loan forgiveness wasn’t for everyone and within the next 7-8 years, we’re going to see ppl either HAVE to repay or go to jail…
Sheed is right. Why try to get over and you got the bread? This is true.
Wasn’t his own money! He didn’t put millions in!! Stop it
They was doing some bull 😂😂😂
Free Bret Farve! Oh I'm sorry he is FREE! WTF
OG's getting cooked in these comments 😭😭😭
Scary for him 😳
why do we always pray an forgive guys for doin wrong an taking advantage of other. our people are the most forgiving race on this planet. they fd up an got caught. period
Maaaan these excuse filled responses smh
They knew WTF they were doing & thought they could get over.
I love Sheeds takes on damn near every single topic, hes just too real
But they are saying something that's not true
Rasheed gonna actually use the "we don't fly the planes" argument. Man if you don't knock it off.
Saying you don't know what exactly happened means you probably shouldn't be speaking on it.
Bonzi has no idea what he's talking about.
Sheed is a real one..always has been...
Those guys were lying and stealing money. Why are they taking their side?
What about Brett Favre🤷🏾♂️
They tracked his phone and he flew to Paris on the day of a Dr. appointment.
Bonzi, stop pretending like this isn't what it appears to be. They tried it, someone was greedy, somebody snitched, and they got caught. Period.
Y’all saying it’s fraud but what’s the difference between this and the doctors charging insurance companies after no shows/cancelled appointments
The NBA just fined Jamal Murray 100k for throwing a towel 3.5 years for 80k is wild to me
Its embezzlement bro its common fr alot of people doing time for stealing money bro ALOT
Bonzy Wells look like Mario Chalmers
Brett farve playin golf
He gets a pass he's white.....
WTF is bonzi talking about 😂
I’m just Amazed they let a dude at the back of the bench orchestrate this
Time is how they do us, not the other folks
You heard about this on ESPN but why isn’t Brett Favre getting the same heat….
Color factor, we all know that
He was in prison in ghost book3 that’s crazy
Don't lie about aliments you don't have and refuse to pay it back
They were alleged to be filling false claims, so it was fraud.
Sheed former teammate 😁💯🏀
Rasheed “we’re too dumb to do crimes”
Man dry that shit up , no tears 😢 my guy big baby 🍼🐥 .
Do that bid! 😁
NBA millionaires speculating Drs are cooking books to send them to jail for using their own health insurance $ is a wild take
U mean Clinton Portis 😂😂
Rasheed and Bonzi. Stealing is stealing. What i wish you all should have said is you both are disappointed.
They filed false claims for insurance payouts multiple times, they need to do their research
Like Mr Washington said in the movie(The Wash)Stealing
Bonzi says it's like stealing his own money. Is that how these players think? Well let me defraud the government's employment insurance program... it's my own money anyways, my personal piggybank. Really shows his ignorance on this matter.
I did that scam to my company, but never got caught
He was playing a prisoner in power book 4. So he’ll be alright 😅😅😅😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
this is why you don’t do an hsa
Cmon Bonzi, if you're legitimately hurt, your doc can speak to that it's legit, they knew what they were doing
Yea sheed saying "we ball players we dont know billing yada-yada" thats not an excuse, not even a little bit. You gotta always protect yourself, and protect your money and interests. Just saying "i dont know does not fly", especially if big money is involved which is what this sounds like.
It’s truly sad how so many people are trying to justify immoral behavior. You’ll be held accountable one way or the other in life. Remember that.
He smiled and cracked jokes. 40 months. He will be at a facility for 3 years or less. Also, he is going to a low level facility or a camp. Now of he was going to a Medium level facility or a united states penitentiary. He would smile no more once he arrived.
I hope they do a rebuttal to this video when they realize that Big Baby and others were stealing from THEM!
what the hell is bonzi wells talking about 😂
turn up the volume
We talking about burgers 🍔😂
Bonzi Wells is ignorant to the situation
Hollld up... how much money you gotta steal to get 3.5 years in prison with a clean record and professional career?
🤔
I know bank robbers that got less time! 🤣🤣🤣
you found out dummy
Sheed said 60 or 70k .It was 5 million dollars over a four year period. Davis knew exactly what he was doing and he didn't make that much money when he played. He thought he could get away with it because he was probably broke and he simply got caught. Now these guys are making excuses for him and it's a shame that they won't just admit that he screwed up.
For all the smart people how did he bill himself? The doctors office did knowing no one came.
If he saying they bodies are messed up. Just imagine the bodies of a military veteran? Yet they got the help and resources. As a veteran we don't have shit...
Players always stick up for each other no matter what. Lol. They were scamming. The common insurance scams. Us regular folks know the penalties of insurance and IRS scams.
Sheed silly!😂lol
Singing Akon.
I keep telling people pull the PDF to the Department of Justice vs Terrance Williams. This was the biggest smoke screen in sports entertainment. It doesn’t add up from the ring leader to the time periods : 2017-2021? Aggravated Identify theft?🤔