I don't have a lot of sensation in my fingertips, this car would drive me nuts! I like the way it looks and agree with Rory on the C pillar stickers, I wonder what they will look like after a few years of use? I am looking forward to seeing the ID 4 when it hits the US! Thanks for the review but that ending was terrible. Give me knobs please!
I think Rory has matured so much since his TG time. It's due to Rory that I watch any AutoTrader YT videos! Great job Rory and whoever is operating the camera or drone; quality work every time.
@@markplott4820 I could research those statements if I wanted, but do not care to. I enjoy the Autotrader videos for their information and general humour of Rory. As for Tesla winning races, then yes. The green light race is about as much fun, and long lasting as revving your V8 because it makes a great sound... My statement is my opinion. Tour statement is your opinion. We both have a choice to watch or not watch their videos, I choose to. Happy New Year to you.
This is a really good honest review presented in a very pleasant and understandable way. I’d actually say this guy is the best care reviewer I’ve ever seen, no attempts at cynicism, comedy or other rubbish just a straight honest opinion.
@@gingerjacaranda our electric cars are not affordable also and charging stations are scarce because our government doesn't subsidize like well off countries do .
I think our government have bigger fish to fry, if they find the frying pan. Cars in Mzansi are generally expensive due to all these levies and I don't see the prospect anytime soon of us getting affordable EV's. Great chanel 👌 non the less. I subscribed to cause of Rory. Great car reviews before you actually think about buying the car.
Daniel, Mxolisi Vaino we South Africans should challenge the status quo in our country, if we do not then nothing will change. The public transport in SA is sub par at best, personal transport is a necessity not a luxury!!
@@AutoTraderTV intresting that you show in the video that the sliders dont work but the tempature reading go up and down like crazy. In my opinion: it might not be as intuitive but in the video it was used wrongly because of that too. You can slide the temperature up even if you keep sliding over the sound part. As long as you start from the tempature slider while you are sliding..
There's to much hate on this car. It's pretty good looking, great range, good price, excellent to drive and decent performance + rear wheel drive. Yes there's negatives but the positives are greater
For the price to range, it's not worth what you can get from a Model 3. The base model ID.3 starts at around $35,900 USD giving you only 330km (205 miles) of range. Compared to a standard range Tesla Model 3 that starts at $30,190 USD, giving you 423km (263mi), better interior build quality more rear-seat legroom, more storage, better door button layout, A clean easy UI, with over the air updates, charging network + performance and safety. You'd be a literal idiot to go for the ID.3 and not go for the Tesla Model 3.
@@ProJC model 3 for 30 grand? where? here the model 3 standard range is available from 48 grand, ID 3 with a bit more range than the standard range Model 3 starts at 37 grand. what are you on about?
@@neilyoungman9814 well he is talking in dollars. And even if he was talking about pounds he was still wrong, because in the UK it still starts from £40,490. So what is the point you are making? I was talking in Euros so that might be a problem on my end hah.
4:22 I remember 17 years ago, when Audi TTs and Z4s where doing those kind of 0-62 times and it was impressive. Now electric hatchbacks will do that no sweat. That's technology advancement right there
No knobs? This really rubs my knob in the wrong way. Jokes aside, i think people would pay extra just to have a Volume dial and the back seat window switches.
...the Toyota Fortuner didn't have volume and tuning knobs. The latest upgrade does. Customers wanted their knobs and they got them. I'd probably forgive the ID if the tech implementation was at the level of usability as the A7 or model 3. But it's nowhere near usable. Bring back our knobs ✌️
@@revolution475 oh, So they slapped toyotas knobs hard like a bob and toyota started to screaming while bringing back the knob? Veey nice. Where are my knob slappers @ ??
Don't give them ideas lol. Not saying you're wrong, but it would be wrong if charging for buttons becomes a thing. Like a engine starter button in a Ferrari for 2k
Spent some time this morning watching a few Auto Trader reviews and have been really impressed with the quality of both video production and presenting. Rory is very likeable and strikes a nice balance between informative and entertaining.
2 weeks owner of ID3 here and im so in love with the car! such a blast to drive! Currently on 2 year lease plan (in sweden) for 360 USD/month, including taxes and serviceplan, very affordable imo
@@markplott4820 i have no problems with horses and buggs yet atleast but we will see. They will offer over the air updates for the systems in the car so i guess improvements will come automaticly wich is nice
@@markplott4820 yeah they said there will be some kind of update in januari, that enables OTA and som eother stuff. free of charge with free car to loan while its updating. But i havent had any problems with anything but i gues updates are always good
I’ve just returned a demo ID3 after 24 hours and I am totally smitten. Just put in my order with delivery in approx 7-10 days. It was such a satisfying place to be in and with a smooth, progressive and responsive performance. I’m coming out of a T-Roc which is comparable in size but the ID3 seems light years ahead of the game. I totally appreciated Rory’s negative comments but no car is perfect.
Gone are the days you could feel for the buttons.... not taking your eyes off the road. Now you have to log in, say your not a robot by clicking bridges, and scan your thumb to turn the radio down. #knobgang 🤜🤛
maybe the aftermarket takes care about that. or VW recognizes the critics and changes things in the other direction in the facelifted version. maybe the facelifted version arrives a bit earlier than 3 years from now on because the ID3 was already a bit late.
Rory’s reviews are great, keep them coming! Was surprised when he left TG as I thought he and Harris were both excellent. TG’s loss is AutoTrader’s gain I guess.
Not having back switches for the rear windows is the best thing ever. It’s so rare that I want to put the rear windows down but in a normal car I am always putting them down by accident while feeling about for the front switch. Never happens now... love it. Secondly you can tap the sliding switch for the volume up or down on either end to increase volume a little, very easy to use, no drama. In Sports mode it is fantastic from 0-80km, not much will beat it
I cancelled my reservation for the I.D. 3 and decided to keep my lovely Golf VII for a while yet. I like the knobs, buttons and switches and the voice interface too.
Let me get this straight...you are not embracing the future and moving away from the nastiness of an ICE car (after convincing yourself that BEVs are better) because of buttons?... I guess this is why you also kept your corded rotary dial phone and never bought a smartphone.... I like consistency, well done!.... madness!
@@massimovergerio2151 No he stuck with superior build quality, a better interior and a more reliable power unit in a car that is cheaper than most electric cars. Electric cars may save on emissions but they're compounded by the pollution of snobbery from EV adopters. Oh and your smartphone analogy doesn't work here.
@@massimovergerio2151 Your smartphone analogy doesn't make sense because smartphones are obviously much more useful and intuitive than rotary phones. These new interiors on the other hand are dysfunctional messes.
Thank you for the Smart review. Iv also hate when car manufacturers "evolve" to more complicated things. Knobs and dials are still the fastest, simple and safest way to control car while driving.
Exactly i love buttoms and nobs they need to stay and manual options for doors and stuff becuase if the battery goes how are you gonna get in the car amd i still need a gearstick.
I think the rear window switch there is a better idea, how many times do you want to use the rear windows as the driver.. in a year I've only ever wanted to control the rears a handful of times, if anything I've put the rear down by mistake while going for the fronts. They've solved that problem
I frequently open my front window in order to hear my exhaust (gti with custom exhaust) and also open the rear window to prevent buffeting. Altho in an electric car im sure that would be less common, there's not much to listen to.
I've had the car for a day and I can confirm most of the things Rory mentioned, but I have to say the materials are not that bad and don't notice them once you start driving. The steering wheel has nice leather and the screen looks very good and it's big enough. The OS is not that bad either, it has some hick-ups here and there, but overall it's responsive and works just fine. The buttons on the steering wheel are indeed weird at first, you have to get used to using them. I found they worked pretty well once I got to understand how to use them, but I did happen to try modifying the volume, by swiping and it wouldn't really work smoothly, until I restarted driving later.. so I guess the OS sometimes needs a reboot to fix a problem :) Other than that, the driving feel is amazing, the direction is pretty nimble and the suspension does its job very well. I've had the 18" rims and they felt very comfortable. The thing I didn't like while driving was the lane keeping assist which is enabled by default, every time you start the car and it doesn't like if you go to the edge of the lane and starts beeping at you. Also, the front collision detection sometimes kicked in, in the city, while going on narrow streets, with cars parked to both sides and I did some pothole maneuvering. Compared to other EVs the regeneration could be better but I think it's made as a fossil-driver-friendly car, to convince people that EVs are just as easy to live with and drive. It regenerates even in D when there is traffic ahead and it slows down on its own. In B mode it regenerates more or rather more aggressively but you rarely need that. Once you break it regenerates anyways. The charging... well that's a different story for another time 😊
digitalisation includes voice controls and thus you don't even have to take your hands of the wheel to touch knobs or buttons. Plus digitalisation means you can add, change, remove anything you want as the buttons are digital.
@@AutoTraderTV well we all know that VWs software of late hasn't worked very well 🙄, but that's what happens when you outsource 90% of your software. Others are much better 👍 especially those that are vertically integrated.
For one pedal driving try to activate "Auto hold" in the menu. Brake pedal is automatically blending regeneration (to actual battery kW limit) and physical braking.
Even on petrol cars rear brakes aren't really used all that much if you don't brake hard, some people even get rusted disks because they don't brake hard enough but drum brakes are still kind of a sign of cheapening
This is a really good honest review presented in a very pleasant and understandable way. I’d actually say this guy is the best care reviewer I’ve ever seen, no attempts at cynicism, comedy or other rubbish just a straight honest opinion I know Des said this, but it's all true
I agree for the volume and temperature knobs. However I like the idea of having only two buttons for the windows : I inadvertently press the rear windows buttons far more often than I do willingly (generally when I want to open the front window but misses the right button). I think that having to explicitly select "rear" is actually an improvement -- I almost never need to open them anyway. The thing I dislike much is the missing "one pedal driving". I've been driving for years (even petrol cars) using the brakes as rarely as possible (every time you press them, you're basically throwing useful energy away after all) and "one pedal driving" is really really the **must have** feature of electric cars. Making one without the option is IMO a very bad choice.
Drum brakes at the back are actually better for EVs. Firstly they’re protected from the environment and won’t rust. Secondly, because EVs use regen braking, you almost never use the brakes, and if you do, it’s always going to put the weight to the front wheels. If it had disk brakes they’d rust and the pads would crack which is incredibly unsafe!
@@markharris8929 Depends on how much the car uses the brakes vs regen. On my Passat GTE PHEV the rear disks are clearly less used than the fronts and sometimes rust up as a result, and that's not even a pure BEV.
Don't you know that in D mode it has adaptive regen? If you lift your foot on the highway or countryroads with no car in front it will coast; but if you lift you foot when closing in on another car or a roundabout or crossing it increases regen breaking.
Wouldn't that be horribly confusing and inconsistent for the driver? What if the system messes up and it doesn't do the regen braking approaching a roundabout when you expect it to?
@@Xenon0000000000001 When I tested it the system wasn't confusing at all. It shows you in the HUD and the drivers display if and what it detected (car, roundabout, crossroads, sharp turn, speed limit,...). You just consider it to coast unless it displays sth. And if you don't like that you can always go to B mode that always regens when you lift your foot
@@nevarran I wish we can buy Tesla with quality of "Asian sweatshop". Tesla 3 made in Shanghai China is top of the list in terms of build quality, while Model 3 built in America is the rock bottom. Here... You go with your American bullshit and racism.
@@kevinmsft You thought me, mate. What a bad racist I am. BTW, you do know there are many races of people around Asia, right? Almost the full spectrum if you consider only natives, and definitely the full spectrum if you count migrants. Unless you think the entire continent is populated by only one type of people? But what am I saying, that would be a racist thinking, it can't be the case with you...
There should be a physical climate and/or at least volume knob I agree on that. But only time I open rear windows from drivers seat is by accident and also those buttons are hard to clean so 2 of them less is even a win for me.
you're right but I also think they're piss takers who are trading off their past - and by that I mean decades and decades ago, build quality and the amount of flaws, bugs in software etc just show how they're robbing their customers blind
Compared to most EV's in the price range (30-40K euro) the materials used is on-par with to slightly worse, yet it has more range, drives better and has more room. SRemember that 37 Euro/30 grand (pounds) for an EV has different expectations than the same price for an ICE car. but because this is a VW people are suddenly harsh? what? Literally the only EV that is better, period, is the e-Niro. But that one is more expensive and still less quiet, comfortable etc.
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@@andrewallan5442 The MQB is supposed to go through generations. It's not a first for VW. Look at the mk 5 and mk 6. Same car
It's an unnecessary complication .. that's the thing about electric cars that frankly drive me nuts .. companies making electric versions make every single thing like a tablet computer to a point where it's unusable .. knobs and buttons , a normal door handle etc are enough if not better .. cut costs there and not on quality .. how i yearn for an electric vehicle that's just an electric motor on a vehicle shell with safety features .. price it aggressively and you have the perfect utilitarian vehicle
I wonder why they decided to go for drum brakes. Probably cost. Edit: Someone replied to my comment wit a really good explanation, because the regen braking slows the rear wheels disc brakes don’t pose much of an advantage considering the extra braking, and drums are lower maintenance.
Well, Kia offer disks all round on most (I think all?) of their cars. I am pretty sure even the cheapest of Picanto's have discs on the rear. I presume VW must do it so that less wheel cleaning/maintenance is required and other general quality of life stuff. I am not sure there is much if anything in it cost wise? For normal boring road use I am not sure there is a performance advantage to disks on the rear?
You are right! What is it with car manufacturers these days? A knob can be reached for out of site and adjusted, a capacitive or touch screen cannot. Bring back knobs!
Ah I think we should cut some slack to VW. It is their first EV and they just got out of a very difficult time and yet they managed to come up with a really nice car that most of competitors can't even dream of making! Next generation will be quite better in every way (build quality, range ...).
The comments about "B" mode aren't quite right because it's not about the driver's "taste" as to how much recuperation there is, it's all about efficiency. Too much recuperation means the car slows too much, meaning you have to use precious energy to accelerate back up to speed. The other issue with strong recuperation is skidding on slippery surfaces, which I believe is a problem with Teslas in icy conditions. In my experience, for the ID.3, at least, is to leave it in "D" mode all the time and use "B" mode for downhill, only, it works beautifully, then. Otherwise, you make great video reviews, thank you.
@@chruth1986 well doesn’t matter, as if you use the break it doesn’t use the physical breakers at first… it drives a bit more like a classic car and still does regen 😱
One thing it has going for it is the energy efficiency. Based on what you said the range was for the available battery capacities, this is one of the few electric vehicles that gets above 4 miles per kWh. That's above the industry average. This is more of a competitor against the Nissan Leaf, or Chevy Bolt, than against Tesla, Lucid, or Rivian. This is definitely a car I would look at, because my primary interest, is energy efficiency. Not so much, power.
The reason it has DRUMs on the back is the same regeneration mode that you are talking about. In fact there are research papers quoting that sooner we might not need discs because they are aiming to do 80% braking by optimizing engine braking with electric cars.
Coming from a Golf 7 I don’t have a problem with the two window switches; little hardship in pressing ‘rear’ first to lower the back windows. Also, if you hold the rear switch down for a couple of seconds and then press a window switch, both front and back windows go down/up together. I love the car 4 weeks in to ownership.
driven this and did not have any issue with regen or weird braking and rear drum brakes are perfect, for longevity - as rear brakes are rarely used enough to not rust into oblivion too soon, so drum brakes will save you plenty of money on service... but Rory would have to think a bit deeper and not go for 1st hand easy hate. Real issues of ID.3 are software (in majority/only) and that is not good but vw is working on that and "production" update is due in december and another one Q1 2021...
I have one and totally agree that software is the car's biggest let-down. It's a buggy mess and has lots of important features still missing. I'm still optimistic that the production release (ME2) which is now released will improve things significantly.
While watching this review, I am trying to think of the last time I operated the read windows in my car from the driver's buttons... No, just can't remember doing it.no big deal for me.
With you there. Every review grips about rear window control but I think it's no big deal. For me the ignition turning off, music, climate etc off if you get out of the driver's seat for 2 seconds is a much bigger deal but rarely commented on.
I sometimes open all windows to air out the car after it has been sitting in the sun for hours, but I don't think this switching to back windows will be an issue. After all, in cars with 4 switches, you don't use all of them at once.
@@theoriginalLP As long as you have 'all windows' selected in the settings, you can just hold the unlock button on the keyfob and all 4 windows open - I use that function quite a lot in the summer to let the heat escape
@@nathanboal Me too. But the problem here is that you have to turn a knob in order to open back windows from driver's seat. When approaching the car after it as been sitting in the sun for hours, I too use the key fob to open all windows simultaneously. But it is still more practical to have 4 buttons. Sometimes you forget to open all windows when approaching the car. I drive a golf 7, I don't have this problem. :D
I've been a knob lover since owning our 2014 Citroen C4 Grand Picasso that only has the volume knob. Takes a while to load up too. Fun for a week, annoying ever since. But the rest of the car is great for family hauling so we continue to put up with it
That’s how they all work, no? That wasn’t my point. My issue is with a lack of ability to regen heavily on demand with lift-off, like you can in many EVs. -RR
@@AutoTraderTV Tesla does not. Accelarator pedal is purely motor or regen, brake pedal is purely friction braking. This is why teslas have full regen on liftoff.
He was talking about not having regen paddles to control it on demand. Auto vs manual regen is the stick vs auto transmissions debate of the EV world, LOL. I prefer manual as well like the Hyundai-Kia EVs.
Not a single word about safety! Short overhangs, long wheelbase mean interior space, but in an impact? The absence of a front engine mean optimized front crash absorbance but the front is just too short! No one thought of this? Otherwise the concept makes a lot of sense! Getting bogged down in the absence knobs is a bit silly when the whole automotive world is now busy getting rid of the steering wheel!
Good review. I have taken one for a test drive. Firstly the window button thing is a blown up. It actually neat having less buttons and how many times do i operate the windows in the back, even wuth kids, hardly ever. It would be nice to have a volume and air con knob, this is where I think Skoda has judged the control gear much better on the Enyak, but I think the ID.3 is a much mnore compelte package and the design is just very very nice. This is a big selling in an industry kicking out cars that are either all the same or just too odd. Lastly the performance and comfort and driving experience is excellent.
Agree completely regarding the knobs...... it’s obviously to save money but personally I feel touch sensitive are downright dangerous and will ultimately cause accidents. Key controls should be proper knobs and switches.
Funny you complain about the lack of recuperation adjustment. This is the one thing that really peeves me in comparison to my e-Golf (three years old) and I make this missing feature currently the final nail in the coffin that will make me look at the competition when my car turns four in 10 months. Something you did not mention, in the e-Golf you can view the map and driving data at the same time, not in the ID3. Dash overall is cheaper, same os materials, which you mentioned. As for the rare window switch, I actually do not share your annoyance. It takes a little getting used to but, half the time I want to wind down rare windows, I hit the wrong button. So this new arrangement will prevent this. In terms of driving and handling, you are right, it is really lovely to drive. I like my e-Golf better overall but the ID3 is a nice successor, with some annoying flaws.
A normal one looks better but I think I would like the movable one more. Right now I have my seat quite low. Because of that, I have to keep my steering wheel higher than I would like. That would probably not be an issue with this type.
This is what I like about iDrive in my G20 BMW 3-Series. I have a dial, I have the touchscreen, I have voice control and I have buttons for the temperature.
True disruptors. All those that thought they'd be dead in 1 year, 2 years, 3 years etc kept saying it until now they are the most valuable car brand (inflated I know, but still no small feat)
@@aidanwilson6035 VW have had decades of innovation, industry, funds and practice. Tesla's Roadster was their very first attempt with a never before seen power train. Gotta admire that. You cannot really compare the two.
I like this lad, he’s a good reviewer, much better than the knob on the new Top Gear ie the loud northerner. And I agree about knobs in a car. A touchscreen for the heating is dangerous as you have to take your eyes off the road ahead and look at the screen. So I’m pro knobs. Except on Top Gear. Oh, and I worked for a company that made touchscreens for cars. I can confirm it’s for cost cutting, one screen is cheaper than screen plus knobs.
How's the "Lane assist" for you Rory? I ask because others have been fed up with the fact that the 'off' is several button pushes away, and left on, it's a bit intrusive. Please could you also cover the companion app - if there is one, as pre-journey conditioning is rather pleasant in the winter.
Agreed - when driving, a driver should be concentrating on driving, not having to fiddle around with distracting touchscreens and haptic buttons. Physical controls are easier to use, and thus, safer.
@@huzygaming7216 producing another millions of cars (not in a climate neutral way).. would be better than using public transport for the environment? Don't need to get my fact right..
Your right, please VW stop using cheap plastic, in some places, and change userface, and bring back nobs, and have physical buttons such as volume or climate controls and etc.. and if its not broke don't change it please votes for nobs and switch, and change the way switch you have on the steering wheel or doors.
@timemachine_194 The argument that the legacy auto makers can, and will, release multiple battery powered cars to overthrow Tesla's market dominance has been made for years now, and they continue to fail at it. Yes, the casting machines DO require large investment, but once they are built, they cut costs dramatically. They also have the benefit of being able to change the casting die for different models, bringing that cost savings forward. Making a platform to build models on may work for the legacy auto makers, but it's also EXTREMELY limiting to any potential variations that could be built on it. That is why the model 3 and Y were so similar in the beginning, but are now going to be diverging. Having the castings for the suspension, while leaving them open to be bolted onto virtually any structural pack design, and, with brackets, hang almost any shape of body panel onto, does somewhat make it a "platform" in a loose sense, but still leaves it open for far more customization and adaptation than the skateboard so many auto makers are using now. It also makes for a FAR stronger, and safer car. By simply changing the size of the pack, or sticking with the structural pack for the current cars and changing the front and rear castings to allow for more extreme variations in the suspension design, Tesla are giving themselves the option to make components that will work in several different models of cars. They also give themselves far more possibility for iteration on existing designs. If they want something to change on one of the castings, they can just alter the die without having to change the rest of the platform accordingly. I've been saying for YEARS now that the first manufacturer to bring a $20k USD car to market with a real world 200 mile range would be able to OWN the one sector of the market that has so far been left almost completely out of the green energy shift. The young/second hand buyer market. Once efficiency and cost to manufacture gets that low, you'll see an exponential growth in EV adoption that would make the current trend look slow by comparison. The first company that can jump that hurdle, and be profitable, will have advantages in efficiency beyond even what Tesla has with their current 21-70 cells, and will thus be a market leader. Can the new 46-80 cells get there? I don't know. Is Tesla the first one to seemingly even have a chance at it? Yes. They are the market lead in cost, efficiency, range, performance, charging, AND software. They make their own car, rather than buying parts and bolting them together like almost every other manufacturer out there, including VW. That is why they can get better specs for nearly the same price. That is why they can iterate so quickly when compared to other manufacturers. That is why they OWN the EV market right now.
I am glad VW chose hard plastics because it uses less energy, materials and emissions than spongey materials and it can be recycled more easily. I applaud VW for using two window switched (4 per car) instead of 8 window switches because that's a saving of tens of thousands of window switches. If you hold the REAR switch down for a few seconds, one button will control all four windows at once. VW has used Circular Economy thinking in their design, I love it!
Completely agree on the centre console controls, there should be physical switches. Maybe not that much on the window switches, for a number of reasons: - On your average car, the rear window switches aren't used enough. - Your average uninformed driver (gets worse with age) will likely use them by mistake when they want to open a front window. - People that need to regularly use those buttons are people with kids, closing windows that the little brats decided to open while they're driven through a motorway. Unfortunately, most people with kids won't be able to afford an ID3 until its second or third iteration, and hopefully by then their kids have a master's degree on "when not to open your window", so, there you go, the buttons are pointless. - Moreover, it's two more buttons, and two more wires. The weight saving is close to a millionth of the car's weight, so not that significant. The time and cost savings on the assembly line will definitely have a bit more impact as VW goes through thousands of units. In the end, if the saving philosophy does get reflected on the car's cost, I'm in. (Other than that, I prefer a knob-free driving experience)
The quality of the car itself is okay. Just the hard plastic feels a bit cheap compared to the Golf 7. No knobs, well, opinions differ here... I think VW made a mistake here, they should have made the car €200 or €500 or so more expensive, but with nicer interior. I guess this will be part of the first facelift 😅
@@abraxastulammo9940 Yes of course. But VW sold 10000 ID.3 in October in the EU 27, so I guess it'll sale for a few years before action has to be taken...
@@babelhuber3449 completely agree. The MK7 and even MK6 were incredibly well made and felt expensive. This unfortunately is a downgrade in terms of quality.
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Knobbers unite 👊🏽
let's do it !
@@erg-89 Bent? :p
VW is a big knob
I fucking hate how almost every car brand is removing the buttons. Cost cutting but car prices are going up, assholes.
I don't have a lot of sensation in my fingertips, this car would drive me nuts! I like the way it looks and agree with Rory on the C pillar stickers, I wonder what they will look like after a few years of use? I am looking forward to seeing the ID 4 when it hits the US! Thanks for the review but that ending was terrible. Give me knobs please!
Rory is one of the best reviewers. This was less than 10 mins and he gave a balanced review covering everything I needed to know.
I think Rory has matured so much since his TG time. It's due to Rory that I watch any AutoTrader YT videos! Great job Rory and whoever is operating the camera or drone; quality work every time.
Yeah he had a very cringe character on TG
Mark Plott why?
@@markplott4820 I could research those statements if I wanted, but do not care to. I enjoy the Autotrader videos for their information and general humour of Rory.
As for Tesla winning races, then yes. The green light race is about as much fun, and long lasting as revving your V8 because it makes a great sound...
My statement is my opinion. Tour statement is your opinion. We both have a choice to watch or not watch their videos, I choose to.
Happy New Year to you.
@@actuallypaulstanley a tremendous alternative 'forget' you. Kudos for your restraint 👍
@@markplott4820 isn’t that what top gear did with the first tesla roadster
I totally agree. Physical switches allow you to change things without ever taking your eyes off the road.
This is a really good honest review presented in a very pleasant and understandable way. I’d actually say this guy is the best care reviewer I’ve ever seen, no attempts at cynicism, comedy or other rubbish just a straight honest opinion.
I'm addicted to this channel because of this dude I'm from south Africa please upload at least 7 video a week
Holla Mxozet mkhaya wami! :-)
@@siyazamabuths4900 howzit nkunzi
@@gingerjacaranda our electric cars are not affordable also and charging stations are scarce because our government doesn't subsidize like well off countries do .
I think our government have bigger fish to fry, if they find the frying pan. Cars in Mzansi are generally expensive due to all these levies and I don't see the prospect anytime soon of us getting affordable EV's. Great chanel 👌 non the less. I subscribed to cause of Rory. Great car reviews before you actually think about buying the car.
Daniel, Mxolisi Vaino we South Africans should challenge the status quo in our country, if we do not then nothing will change. The public transport in SA is sub par at best, personal transport is a necessity not a luxury!!
that white steering wheel is going to look like a horrid grey blotchy mess after a few months.
Which is why I chose the black one 😉
Yes, this is not a Bentley to drive it with gloves
I bet nobody will order it apart from the press cars. Looks fab when new but I don't want to see it one year down the road.
There is a black one
I throw away my cars when they get nasty.
No KNOB? No LIKE
KNOBGANG!4EVER
Your tesla doesnt have them either
I think it's time for "Knob gang" merch. #Bringbackknobs #knobslivesmatter
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@@AutoTraderTV intresting that you show in the video that the sliders dont work but the tempature reading go up and down like crazy.
In my opinion: it might not be as intuitive but in the video it was used wrongly because of that too. You can slide the temperature up even if you keep sliding over the sound part. As long as you start from the tempature slider while you are sliding..
@@remco6816 he was just sliding to show you what he means when your fingers WOULD be damp...#knobgang
@@eduardborukhov1928 intresting because it was then still functioning, if you mean the part of the video im talking about.
@@remco6816 yea cause he was dry lol.. he's just showing how the sliding can be faulty if the surface is moist
There's to much hate on this car. It's pretty good looking, great range, good price, excellent to drive and decent performance + rear wheel drive. Yes there's negatives but the positives are greater
Its not comparable to an Model 3.
For the price to range, it's not worth what you can get from a Model 3.
The base model ID.3 starts at around $35,900 USD giving you only 330km (205 miles) of range.
Compared to a standard range Tesla Model 3 that starts at $30,190 USD, giving you 423km (263mi), better interior build quality more rear-seat legroom, more storage, better door button layout, A clean easy UI, with over the air updates, charging network + performance and safety.
You'd be a literal idiot to go for the ID.3 and not go for the Tesla Model 3.
@@ProJC model 3 for 30 grand? where? here the model 3 standard range is available from 48 grand, ID 3 with a bit more range than the standard range Model 3 starts at 37 grand. what are you on about?
@@CyAn-S It's a UK channel, 30 grand in this case is 30,000 British pounds.
@@neilyoungman9814 well he is talking in dollars. And even if he was talking about pounds he was still wrong, because in the UK it still starts from £40,490. So what is the point you are making?
I was talking in Euros so that might be a problem on my end hah.
"Knob gang" never thought I'd be part of this 🤣🤣🤣
4:22 I remember 17 years ago, when Audi TTs and Z4s where doing those kind of 0-62 times and it was impressive. Now electric hatchbacks will do that no sweat. That's technology advancement right there
electric cars can do 0-60 faster then petrol or diesel cars
7 seconds was impressive 40 years ago but not 17. even the clio sport did that time, ep3 civic type r even did around 6.6
Electric Motors have instant response, no clutch, no gears, all extra time for a petrol car.
I will pick z4 all day , electric are not fun
No knobs?
This really rubs my knob in the wrong way.
Jokes aside, i think people would pay extra just to have a Volume dial and the back seat window switches.
I would pay extra for knobs!!
...the Toyota Fortuner didn't have volume and tuning knobs. The latest upgrade does. Customers wanted their knobs and they got them.
I'd probably forgive the ID if the tech implementation was at the level of usability as the A7 or model 3. But it's nowhere near usable.
Bring back our knobs ✌️
@@revolution475 oh, So they slapped toyotas knobs hard like a bob and toyota started to screaming while bringing back the knob?
Veey nice. Where are my knob slappers @ ??
Don't give them ideas lol. Not saying you're wrong, but it would be wrong if charging for buttons becomes a thing. Like a engine starter button in a Ferrari for 2k
@@richboy900 wait, Ferrari charges 2k for a button?!!? damn, here i though my Daewoo was bad and boujee...
Spent some time this morning watching a few Auto Trader reviews and have been really impressed with the quality of both video production and presenting. Rory is very likeable and strikes a nice balance between informative and entertaining.
2 weeks owner of ID3 here and im so in love with the car! such a blast to drive!
Currently on 2 year lease plan (in sweden) for 360 USD/month, including taxes and serviceplan, very affordable imo
@@markplott4820 i have no problems with horses and buggs yet atleast but we will see.
They will offer over the air updates for the systems in the car so i guess improvements will come automaticly wich is nice
@@markplott4820 yeah they said there will be some kind of update in januari, that enables OTA and som eother stuff.
free of charge with free car to loan while its updating.
But i havent had any problems with anything but i gues updates are always good
@@eagdhj is it fixed now?
@@sjoroverpirat no updates so far (but also no problems so far for me)
@@eagdhj I've been thinking about swapping my i3 for a id3, but there have been a lot of issues locally. Guess I will wait a few more months.
I’ve just returned a demo ID3 after 24 hours and I am totally smitten. Just put in my order with delivery in approx 7-10 days. It was such a satisfying place to be in and with a smooth, progressive and responsive performance. I’m coming out of a T-Roc which is comparable in size but the ID3 seems light years ahead of the game. I totally appreciated Rory’s negative comments but no car is perfect.
I like your honesty and I think you are spot on from the research I found that the id3 hits 37mph in 3.5s
Gone are the days you could feel for the buttons.... not taking your eyes off the road. Now you have to log in, say your not a robot by clicking bridges, and scan your thumb to turn the radio down. #knobgang 🤜🤛
maybe the aftermarket takes care about that. or VW recognizes the critics and changes things in the other direction in the facelifted version. maybe the facelifted version arrives a bit earlier than 3 years from now on because the ID3 was already a bit late.
or ..... you can use voice commands to control everything (not on the VW), and then quit whining.
You can use my knob anytime you want to, cowboy!
@@dzerres Which doesn't work half the time. Yeah, right.
KNOBGANG the name is killa loool loving it mate
Thats why I watch ALL you motoring reviews Rory... honesty... straight talk... zero ambiguity... not beating around the bush.. I love it it.
Rory’s reviews are great, keep them coming! Was surprised when he left TG as I thought he and Harris were both excellent. TG’s loss is AutoTrader’s gain I guess.
Thank you for not putting Tesla in the title or thumbnail 👍🏼👌🏻
The video needed more comparisons to tesla. Tesla's the biggest and essentially only ev maker
@@lachlanB323 ok fanboy
@@jackvanepps7301 oke petrolhead
@@lachlanB323 its not true though... Just check european registrations and you will see that VW is in fact the biggest ev maker....
@@jackvanepps7301 Ok? It's literally a fact. Tesla has 80% of ev sales. So they are the only thing you should be comparing too.
More knobs please. Still like this ID3. Great video Rory.
Not having back switches for the rear windows is the best thing ever. It’s so rare that I want to put the rear windows down but in a normal car I am always putting them down by accident while feeling about for the front switch. Never happens now... love it.
Secondly you can tap the sliding switch for the volume up or down on either end to increase volume a little, very easy to use, no drama. In Sports mode it is fantastic from 0-80km, not much will beat it
I cancelled my reservation for the I.D. 3 and decided to keep my lovely Golf VII for a while yet. I like the knobs, buttons and switches and the voice interface too.
That one will be better built than any of the new stuff. Keep it mate until u can no longer drive it
Let me get this straight...you are not embracing the future and moving away from the nastiness of an ICE car (after convincing yourself that BEVs are better) because of buttons?... I guess this is why you also kept your corded rotary dial phone and never bought a smartphone.... I like consistency, well done!.... madness!
Yiuve also avoided the astronomical rise in cost if a no-deal Brexit.
@@massimovergerio2151 No he stuck with superior build quality, a better interior and a more reliable power unit in a car that is cheaper than most electric cars. Electric cars may save on emissions but they're compounded by the pollution of snobbery from EV adopters.
Oh and your smartphone analogy doesn't work here.
@@massimovergerio2151 Your smartphone analogy doesn't make sense because smartphones are obviously much more useful and intuitive than rotary phones. These new interiors on the other hand are dysfunctional messes.
You'll never forget your first chocolate ice cream enjoyed while driving your ID3.
Thank you for the Smart review. Iv also hate when car manufacturers "evolve" to more complicated things. Knobs and dials are still the fastest, simple and safest way to control car while driving.
Exactly i love buttoms and nobs they need to stay and manual options for doors and stuff becuase if the battery goes how are you gonna get in the car amd i still need a gearstick.
*Refreshing to see such an honest review*
I think the rear window switch there is a better idea, how many times do you want to use the rear windows as the driver.. in a year I've only ever wanted to control the rears a handful of times, if anything I've put the rear down by mistake while going for the fronts. They've solved that problem
I frequently open my front window in order to hear my exhaust (gti with custom exhaust) and also open the rear window to prevent buffeting. Altho in an electric car im sure that would be less common, there's not much to listen to.
I've had the car for a day and I can confirm most of the things Rory mentioned, but I have to say the materials are not that bad and don't notice them once you start driving.
The steering wheel has nice leather and the screen looks very good and it's big enough. The OS is not that bad either, it has some hick-ups here and there, but overall it's responsive and works just fine. The buttons on the steering wheel are indeed weird at first, you have to get used to using them. I found they worked pretty well once I got to understand how to use them, but I did happen to try modifying the volume, by swiping and it wouldn't really work smoothly, until I restarted driving later.. so I guess the OS sometimes needs a reboot to fix a problem :)
Other than that, the driving feel is amazing, the direction is pretty nimble and the suspension does its job very well. I've had the 18" rims and they felt very comfortable.
The thing I didn't like while driving was the lane keeping assist which is enabled by default, every time you start the car and it doesn't like if you go to the edge of the lane and starts beeping at you. Also, the front collision detection sometimes kicked in, in the city, while going on narrow streets, with cars parked to both sides and I did some pothole maneuvering. Compared to other EVs the regeneration could be better but I think it's made as a fossil-driver-friendly car, to convince people that EVs are just as easy to live with and drive. It regenerates even in D when there is traffic ahead and it slows down on its own. In B mode it regenerates more or rather more aggressively but you rarely need that. Once you break it regenerates anyways. The charging... well that's a different story for another time 😊
digitalisation includes voice controls and thus you don't even have to take your hands of the wheel to touch knobs or buttons. Plus digitalisation means you can add, change, remove anything you want as the buttons are digital.
Watch the first few seconds of this: ruclips.net/video/kEYdorcmCO4/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/nZ3nvxRT_Kw/видео.html🙏🏻
@@AutoTraderTV well we all know that VWs software of late hasn't worked very well 🙄, but that's what happens when you outsource 90% of your software. Others are much better 👍 especially those that are vertically integrated.
For one pedal driving try to activate "Auto hold" in the menu. Brake pedal is automatically blending regeneration (to actual battery kW limit) and physical braking.
So it is!
ID3 cannot fully one pedal drive - the car will not fully stop without pressing the brake pedal
@zale76 Auto Hold is just that, a hold - you have to come to a complete stop first before that kicks in.
@@scottvessey915 yes and to achieve that ‘stop’ you have to press the brake pedal
@@thelifeofbatteries2603 My reply wasn't meant for you
Drum brakes make sense on an EV.
They really do! You hardly use them during normal driving so they will just rust up otherwise.
100%
Even on petrol cars rear brakes aren't really used all that much if you don't brake hard, some people even get rusted disks because they don't brake hard enough but drum brakes are still kind of a sign of cheapening
This is a really good honest review presented in a very pleasant and understandable way. I’d actually say this guy is the best care reviewer I’ve ever seen, no attempts at cynicism, comedy or other rubbish just a straight honest opinion
I know Des said this, but it's all true
I agree for the volume and temperature knobs. However I like the idea of having only two buttons for the windows : I inadvertently press the rear windows buttons far more often than I do willingly (generally when I want to open the front window but misses the right button). I think that having to explicitly select "rear" is actually an improvement -- I almost never need to open them anyway.
The thing I dislike much is the missing "one pedal driving". I've been driving for years (even petrol cars) using the brakes as rarely as possible (every time you press them, you're basically throwing useful energy away after all) and "one pedal driving" is really really the **must have** feature of electric cars. Making one without the option is IMO a very bad choice.
Drum brakes at the back are actually better for EVs. Firstly they’re protected from the environment and won’t rust. Secondly, because EVs use regen braking, you almost never use the brakes, and if you do, it’s always going to put the weight to the front wheels. If it had disk brakes they’d rust and the pads would crack which is incredibly unsafe!
Absolutely. Many don't realise this.
Our leaf has quite clean discs yet we hardly ever use them much at all. They look like new after 22,000miles and 5 years.
@@markharris8929 Depends on how much the car uses the brakes vs regen. On my Passat GTE PHEV the rear disks are clearly less used than the fronts and sometimes rust up as a result, and that's not even a pure BEV.
Don't you know that in D mode it has adaptive regen? If you lift your foot on the highway or countryroads with no car in front it will coast; but if you lift you foot when closing in on another car or a roundabout or crossing it increases regen breaking.
All the main reviews I’ve seen entirely miss this point.
Wouldn't that be horribly confusing and inconsistent for the driver? What if the system messes up and it doesn't do the regen braking approaching a roundabout when you expect it to?
@@Xenon0000000000001 When I tested it the system wasn't confusing at all. It shows you in the HUD and the drivers display if and what it detected (car, roundabout, crossroads, sharp turn, speed limit,...). You just consider it to coast unless it displays sth.
And if you don't like that you can always go to B mode that always regens when you lift your foot
First time watching a review by Rory. I really like the guy, honest and fun. Perfect for what I needed to know about this car 😎👍
You don't have any brake regen because it is implemented in the braking pedal. The initial pedal pressure is the actual regen.
B mode allows lift-off regen
@@AutoTraderTV You get lift-off regen in D too - just not so much
@@AutoTraderTV regen in D is dynamically adjusted based on map data and radar unless you deactivated that option in the settings!!!
VW build quality has taken a nose dive lol
Tesla showed that you can sell well even with the quality of an Asian sweatshop.
@@nevarran that was because of RUclipsrs and the big screen and the fact it was the first mass produced ev
They need to recoup their money back from their large fine
@@nevarran I wish we can buy Tesla with quality of "Asian sweatshop". Tesla 3 made in Shanghai China is top of the list in terms of build quality, while Model 3 built in America is the rock bottom. Here... You go with your American bullshit and racism.
@@kevinmsft You thought me, mate. What a bad racist I am.
BTW, you do know there are many races of people around Asia, right? Almost the full spectrum if you consider only natives, and definitely the full spectrum if you count migrants. Unless you think the entire continent is populated by only one type of people? But what am I saying, that would be a racist thinking, it can't be the case with you...
Great review from Rory. I just love the ID3. The second best electric car after Taycan.
There should be a physical climate and/or at least volume knob I agree on that.
But only time I open rear windows from drivers seat is by accident and also those buttons are hard to clean so 2 of them less is even a win for me.
VW is saving cost in order to compensate for huge fines paid for dieselgate scam 😅
100% the new golf is on the old platform, a first and all the VAG group has cheaper areas.
Keith Coutinho
, What is the value of US orders for military equipment at VW?
you're right but I also think they're piss takers who are trading off their past - and by that I mean decades and decades ago, build quality and the amount of flaws, bugs in software etc just show how they're robbing their customers blind
Compared to most EV's in the price range (30-40K euro) the materials used is on-par with to slightly worse, yet it has more range, drives better and has more room. SRemember that 37 Euro/30 grand (pounds) for an EV has different expectations than the same price for an ICE car.
but because this is a VW people are suddenly harsh? what? Literally the only EV that is better, period, is the e-Niro. But that one is more expensive and still less quiet, comfortable etc.
@@andrewallan5442 The MQB is supposed to go through generations. It's not a first for VW. Look at the mk 5 and mk 6. Same car
Praying for Volkswagen that this is a runaway success
Drove one, loved it
The registration plate ending in "BNB" ..Bring Nobs Back!
How often will a driver lower and raise the rear windows as opposed to the front ? Criticism for the sake of finding anything to say.
If you’ve got kids who ride in the back, it’s a pretty regular occurrence.
It's an unnecessary complication .. that's the thing about electric cars that frankly drive me nuts .. companies making electric versions make every single thing like a tablet computer to a point where it's unusable .. knobs and buttons , a normal door handle etc are enough if not better .. cut costs there and not on quality .. how i yearn for an electric vehicle that's just an electric motor on a vehicle shell with safety features .. price it aggressively and you have the perfect utilitarian vehicle
I wonder why they decided to go for drum brakes. Probably cost.
Edit: Someone replied to my comment wit a really good explanation, because the regen braking slows the rear wheels disc brakes don’t pose much of an advantage considering the extra braking, and drums are lower maintenance.
The only reason a manufacturer chooses to go with inferior technology is without doubt cost.
It is actually the better solution. Remember: A lot of the braking is done by the regen.
Well, Kia offer disks all round on most (I think all?) of their cars. I am pretty sure even the cheapest of Picanto's have discs on the rear.
I presume VW must do it so that less wheel cleaning/maintenance is required and other general quality of life stuff. I am not sure there is much if anything in it cost wise? For normal boring road use I am not sure there is a performance advantage to disks on the rear?
@@aljowen
It's OK not to comment on something you don't know.
@@Flex2212
Did you even pay attention to the video?
There is little to no regen on this car. LOL
This fellas reviews are always brilliant. He always covers those little niggling things that others fail to mention.
This is my favorite electric car
Romanu și VW. Best love story
@@sorinelpustiu5674 ummm.... I'm not Romanian.
@@dragospahontu Well you seem to understand Romanian since I wrote in Romanian...
@@sorinelpustiu5674 that doesn't make me Romanian, i don't have a Romanian citizenship.
@@dragospahontu Ah am înțeles, bravo ca ai nume romanesc și ca știi românește dar nu ești roman. 👍
You are right! What is it with car manufacturers these days? A knob can be reached for out of site and adjusted, a capacitive or touch screen cannot. Bring back knobs!
Ah I think we should cut some slack to VW. It is their first EV and they just got out of a very difficult time and yet they managed to come up with a really nice car that most of competitors can't even dream of making!
Next generation will be quite better in every way (build quality, range ...).
Build quality of the low quality materials is great. ;-)
It has the highest range in its class, 549 km WLTP for a compact EV.
The comments about "B" mode aren't quite right because it's not about the driver's "taste" as to how much recuperation there is, it's all about efficiency. Too much recuperation means the car slows too much, meaning you have to use precious energy to accelerate back up to speed. The other issue with strong recuperation is skidding on slippery surfaces, which I believe is a problem with Teslas in icy conditions.
In my experience, for the ID.3, at least, is to leave it in "D" mode all the time and use "B" mode for downhill, only, it works beautifully, then.
Otherwise, you make great video reviews, thank you.
Button gang, lol! I'm in. Bring back buttons.
Definitely.
Fantastic work Rory. Always great reviews. Arguably the best auto presenter on RUclips 👌
Drum brakes are better for EVs as the disc brake rust on EVs - you do not use the physical break that much on an EV
Did you not watch the video ? There’s no one pedal driving on this car.
@@chruth1986 well doesn’t matter, as if you use the break it doesn’t use the physical breakers at first… it drives a bit more like a classic car and still does regen 😱
@@chruth1986 there is, you have to turn it on though :-)
One thing it has going for it is the energy efficiency. Based on what you said the range was for the available battery capacities, this is one of the few electric vehicles that gets above 4 miles per kWh. That's above the industry average. This is more of a competitor against the Nissan Leaf, or Chevy Bolt, than against Tesla, Lucid, or Rivian. This is definitely a car I would look at, because my primary interest, is energy efficiency. Not so much, power.
What will the white wheel and stalks look like after a year or two.
not white
It indicates if the owner is a dirty person. 😂
The reason it has DRUMs on the back is the same regeneration mode that you are talking about. In fact there are research papers quoting that sooner we might not need discs because they are aiming to do 80% braking by optimizing engine braking with electric cars.
Nah, I would rather have your jacket.
Coming from a Golf 7 I don’t have a problem with the two window switches; little hardship in pressing ‘rear’ first to lower the back windows. Also, if you hold the rear switch down for a couple of seconds and then press a window switch, both front and back windows go down/up together.
I love the car 4 weeks in to ownership.
Something about it, reminded me of the first generation Merc A-Class.
driven this and did not have any issue with regen or weird braking and rear drum brakes are perfect, for longevity - as rear brakes are rarely used enough to not rust into oblivion too soon, so drum brakes will save you plenty of money on service... but Rory would have to think a bit deeper and not go for 1st hand easy hate. Real issues of ID.3 are software (in majority/only) and that is not good but vw is working on that and "production" update is due in december and another one Q1 2021...
I have one and totally agree that software is the car's biggest let-down. It's a buggy mess and has lots of important features still missing. I'm still optimistic that the production release (ME2) which is now released will improve things significantly.
While watching this review, I am trying to think of the last time I operated the read windows in my car from the driver's buttons... No, just can't remember doing it.no big deal for me.
With you there. Every review grips about rear window control but I think it's no big deal. For me the ignition turning off, music, climate etc off if you get out of the driver's seat for 2 seconds is a much bigger deal but rarely commented on.
I sometimes open all windows to air out the car after it has been sitting in the sun for hours, but I don't think this switching to back windows will be an issue. After all, in cars with 4 switches, you don't use all of them at once.
@@theoriginalLP As long as you have 'all windows' selected in the settings, you can just hold the unlock button on the keyfob and all 4 windows open - I use that function quite a lot in the summer to let the heat escape
@@nathanboal Me too. But the problem here is that you have to turn a knob in order to open back windows from driver's seat. When approaching the car after it as been sitting in the sun for hours, I too use the key fob to open all windows simultaneously. But it is still more practical to have 4 buttons. Sometimes you forget to open all windows when approaching the car. I drive a golf 7, I don't have this problem. :D
I've been a knob lover since owning our 2014 Citroen C4 Grand Picasso that only has the volume knob. Takes a while to load up too. Fun for a week, annoying ever since. But the rest of the car is great for family hauling so we continue to put up with it
VW need to put this in there press materials, so many reviewers miss it.
"You get more regen when you press the brake"
That’s how they all work, no? That wasn’t my point. My issue is with a lack of ability to regen heavily on demand with lift-off, like you can in many EVs. -RR
@@AutoTraderTV Tesla does not. Accelarator pedal is purely motor or regen, brake pedal is purely friction braking.
This is why teslas have full regen on liftoff.
He was talking about not having regen paddles to control it on demand. Auto vs manual regen is the stick vs auto transmissions debate of the EV world, LOL. I prefer manual as well like the Hyundai-Kia EVs.
Not a single word about safety! Short overhangs, long wheelbase mean interior space, but in an impact? The absence of a front engine mean optimized front crash absorbance but the front is just too short! No one thought of this? Otherwise the concept makes a lot of sense! Getting bogged down in the absence knobs is a bit silly when the whole automotive world is now busy getting rid of the steering wheel!
How often do we actually wind down back windows? Exactly.
Exactly. If you've got people in the back, they can wind their own windows down. It's a very silly criticism.
I do it regularly. I have kids, so the window controls in the back are usually disabled. Whenever we use them, it's always from the front.
Good review. I have taken one for a test drive. Firstly the window button thing is a blown up. It actually neat having less buttons and how many times do i operate the windows in the back, even wuth kids, hardly ever. It would be nice to have a volume and air con knob, this is where I think Skoda has judged the control gear much better on the Enyak, but I think the ID.3 is a much mnore compelte package and the design is just very very nice. This is a big selling in an industry kicking out cars that are either all the same or just too odd. Lastly the performance and comfort and driving experience is excellent.
Can't see me driving to Austria to ski in that biscuit can.
Agree completely regarding the knobs...... it’s obviously to save money but personally I feel touch sensitive are downright dangerous and will ultimately cause accidents. Key controls should be proper knobs and switches.
They should have done more research and they would have understood that drum brakes actually make more sense than rear disks for an electric car...
Funny you complain about the lack of recuperation adjustment. This is the one thing that really peeves me in comparison to my e-Golf (three years old) and I make this missing feature currently the final nail in the coffin that will make me look at the competition when my car turns four in 10 months.
Something you did not mention, in the e-Golf you can view the map and driving data at the same time, not in the ID3. Dash overall is cheaper, same os materials, which you mentioned.
As for the rare window switch, I actually do not share your annoyance. It takes a little getting used to but, half the time I want to wind down rare windows, I hit the wrong button. So this new arrangement will prevent this.
In terms of driving and handling, you are right, it is really lovely to drive. I like my e-Golf better overall but the ID3 is a nice successor, with some annoying flaws.
This car is good but I’d prefer a normal drivers display instead of it being sticked on the steering wheel
A normal one looks better but I think I would like the movable one more. Right now I have my seat quite low. Because of that, I have to keep my steering wheel higher than I would like. That would probably not be an issue with this type.
This is what I like about iDrive in my G20 BMW 3-Series. I have a dial, I have the touchscreen, I have voice control and I have buttons for the temperature.
Tesla really have knocked seven bells of turd out of the big players. Completely caught off guard and trying to play catch up.
True disruptors. All those that thought they'd be dead in 1 year, 2 years, 3 years etc kept saying it until now they are the most valuable car brand (inflated I know, but still no small feat)
History has proven that legacy auto makers don't innovate and have to be pushed to do so.
they have only just begun , the ID3 is a far better car than the converted Lotus that was Tesla's first attempt.
@@aidanwilson6035 The Roadster was more proof of concept for a start up.
@@aidanwilson6035 VW have had decades of innovation, industry, funds and practice. Tesla's Roadster was their very first attempt with a never before seen power train. Gotta admire that. You cannot really compare the two.
Fully agree on the knob issue.
I have a Golf now, when I have to buy a new car, it won't be a Golf if it still lacks real buttons.
So... Probably wait for the Enyaq then!
I like this lad, he’s a good reviewer, much better than the knob on the new Top Gear ie the loud northerner. And I agree about knobs in a car. A touchscreen for the heating is dangerous as you have to take your eyes off the road ahead and look at the screen. So I’m pro knobs. Except on Top Gear. Oh, and I worked for a company that made touchscreens for cars. I can confirm it’s for cost cutting, one screen is cheaper than screen plus knobs.
Just put the extra few thousands and get you a Model 3.
How's the "Lane assist" for you Rory? I ask because others have been fed up with the fact that the 'off' is several button pushes away, and left on, it's a bit intrusive.
Please could you also cover the companion app - if there is one, as pre-journey conditioning is rather pleasant in the winter.
Whoever signed off on glueing a laptop on the dash, needs a good kick in the knobs. Not just VW either.
Agreed - when driving, a driver should be concentrating on driving, not having to fiddle around with distracting touchscreens and haptic buttons. Physical controls are easier to use, and thus, safer.
When the Volkswagen Passat is electric only, then ice are dead.
In environmental terms it'd not be good..
Incase ppl are actually trying to save it
@@fynn6282 get your facts straight.
@@huzygaming7216 producing another millions of cars (not in a climate neutral way).. would be better than using public transport for the environment? Don't need to get my fact right..
@@fynn6282 you really think public transport is gonna solve everything? Empty busses going to rural areas? Superefficient 😆
@@huzygaming7216 actually not what I said. But it's obvious that everyone having a car wouldn't be the solution
Your right, please VW stop using cheap plastic, in some places, and change userface, and bring back nobs, and have physical buttons such as volume or climate controls and etc.. and if its not broke don't change it please votes for nobs and switch, and change the way switch you have on the steering wheel or doors.
'Better looking car than the golf' isn't saying much
I am definitely in the knob gang! I like the Golf 7,5s infotainment better than the current gens VWs.
I still haven't stopped laughing from the first time I heard someone call this a competitor for the model 3.
@timemachine_194 Are you saying that having more power AND having better efficiency are BAD?
@timemachine_194 Well, your story might just be changing when the Tesla factory in Germany is finished and they develop the European only model.
@timemachine_194 The argument that the legacy auto makers can, and will, release multiple battery powered cars to overthrow Tesla's market dominance has been made for years now, and they continue to fail at it.
Yes, the casting machines DO require large investment, but once they are built, they cut costs dramatically. They also have the benefit of being able to change the casting die for different models, bringing that cost savings forward.
Making a platform to build models on may work for the legacy auto makers, but it's also EXTREMELY limiting to any potential variations that could be built on it. That is why the model 3 and Y were so similar in the beginning, but are now going to be diverging.
Having the castings for the suspension, while leaving them open to be bolted onto virtually any structural pack design, and, with brackets, hang almost any shape of body panel onto, does somewhat make it a "platform" in a loose sense, but still leaves it open for far more customization and adaptation than the skateboard so many auto makers are using now. It also makes for a FAR stronger, and safer car.
By simply changing the size of the pack, or sticking with the structural pack for the current cars and changing the front and rear castings to allow for more extreme variations in the suspension design, Tesla are giving themselves the option to make components that will work in several different models of cars. They also give themselves far more possibility for iteration on existing designs.
If they want something to change on one of the castings, they can just alter the die without having to change the rest of the platform accordingly.
I've been saying for YEARS now that the first manufacturer to bring a $20k USD car to market with a real world 200 mile range would be able to OWN the one sector of the market that has so far been left almost completely out of the green energy shift. The young/second hand buyer market. Once efficiency and cost to manufacture gets that low, you'll see an exponential growth in EV adoption that would make the current trend look slow by comparison.
The first company that can jump that hurdle, and be profitable, will have advantages in efficiency beyond even what Tesla has with their current 21-70 cells, and will thus be a market leader. Can the new 46-80 cells get there? I don't know. Is Tesla the first one to seemingly even have a chance at it? Yes.
They are the market lead in cost, efficiency, range, performance, charging, AND software. They make their own car, rather than buying parts and bolting them together like almost every other manufacturer out there, including VW.
That is why they can get better specs for nearly the same price. That is why they can iterate so quickly when compared to other manufacturers. That is why they OWN the EV market right now.
At last a reviewer that doesn't irritate me. Keep up the good work.
Review the Honda e
I think Fiat 500 electric is better. Better range, lower weight, cheaper.
@@DashCamSerbia But even better than that is the Renault Zoe
@@kristians2704 Nope. You don't get the battery with the Zoe. You have to pay monthly racket for the pleasure of using their battery.
I agree with you on the issue of buttons but I don't think I'll ever want to be in a knob gang - ever.
Whats a bad point about this car- " The Overall General Quality " hahahahaha
Lovin' the matching leather jacket and the ID3's trim.
Hate the looks, price , colour and trim.
Imagine what the ‘SE’ trim or the basic models looks like.
The SUV , like the id.4 has better proportions
I am glad VW chose hard plastics because it uses less energy, materials and emissions than spongey materials and it can be recycled more easily. I applaud VW for using two window switched (4 per car) instead of 8 window switches because that's a saving of tens of thousands of window switches. If you hold the REAR switch down for a few seconds, one button will control all four windows at once. VW has used Circular Economy thinking in their design, I love it!
BRING BACK THE KNOBS VW!!
WE WANT KNOBS...WE WANT KNOBS!!!
An underrated reviewer you are sir
“I only picked it up about 3 hrs ago”. Yeh right so when did you write the review Rory, before you saw it?
Agree totally. Needs knobs and dials!
Getting famous off comments day 184, so I can live the dream, live everyday like it’s your last🤙
Completely agree on the centre console controls, there should be physical switches. Maybe not that much on the window switches, for a number of reasons:
- On your average car, the rear window switches aren't used enough.
- Your average uninformed driver (gets worse with age) will likely use them by mistake when they want to open a front window.
- People that need to regularly use those buttons are people with kids, closing windows that the little brats decided to open while they're driven through a motorway. Unfortunately, most people with kids won't be able to afford an ID3 until its second or third iteration, and hopefully by then their kids have a master's degree on "when not to open your window", so, there you go, the buttons are pointless.
- Moreover, it's two more buttons, and two more wires. The weight saving is close to a millionth of the car's weight, so not that significant. The time and cost savings on the assembly line will definitely have a bit more impact as VW goes through thousands of units. In the end, if the saving philosophy does get reflected on the car's cost, I'm in.
(Other than that, I prefer a knob-free driving experience)
Don't think I want to be apart of knob gang 😂
Completely agree with you about interior quality. Ever since Dieselgate, VW quality has dropped to an unacceptably low level. Such a shame.
The quality of the car itself is okay. Just the hard plastic feels a bit cheap compared to the Golf 7. No knobs, well, opinions differ here...
I think VW made a mistake here, they should have made the car €200 or €500 or so more expensive, but with nicer interior. I guess this will be part of the first facelift 😅
@@babelhuber3449 Wouldn't a facelift be years away?
@@abraxastulammo9940 Yes of course. But VW sold 10000 ID.3 in October in the EU 27, so I guess it'll sale for a few years before action has to be taken...
@@babelhuber3449 completely agree. The MK7 and even MK6 were incredibly well made and felt expensive. This unfortunately is a downgrade in terms of quality.