Hello mate just wanted to say thank you, as it was because of you I bought the Suunto Vertical a week ago and absolutely love it it is so good, I was a Garmin user for more that 20 years but really glad I switched so Thank you :) Awesome videos
Awhh mate, thankyou for the heartfelt comment! Supper appreciate it Tod! Glad I could help with your decision, and love that you’re enjoying the videos! Welcome to the Suunto club ;) and all the best with your Vertical adventures
Mate, your videos are awesome! These real examples make the whole presentation more unique from everything there is on YT. Big up!!! You've got a new subscriber mate!
Just to say thank you for this video. I ordered the race after watching this and playing a bit with the vertical. The screen is fantastic on the race and the scroll wheel is so much more intuitive. Still love the vertical but after realising I’d be paying £210 more for the longer battery but less clear screen. Whilst I’d love to think I’d be exploring the wilderness and need the vertical in reality I’m rarely more than a hour or too away from a charging socket…
An absolute pleasure Gavin! The race is definitely one of the best watches out there and it’s crazy just how affordable it is compared to watches within its same category 🔥 The battery life is more than enough for most people too.. like you said, unless you’re doing 100’s of hours out in the wilderness with no electric access.. maybe then would the £210 be more justified. The screen quality for maps is a dream 😍
Hey! I HIGHLY recommend watching this navigational video from start to finish and following along the adventure/story! However, if you’re here for certain features feel free to use the timestamps/chapters! All the best 🔥👊🏽 #SuuntoRace #Hiking #Maps #Nav
An absolute pleasure Uldis! Glad you’ve enjoyed the videos 🙈🙈 It’s definitely a smooth experience on Suunto now, especially after many of the welcomed software updates 🔥
@@ActiveIdeas I am currently looking for a new watch. I have been using the Garmin FR series for 7 years. It seems that the time has come to switch to Suunto, considering the price performance and I liked several things better than Garmin (I had the opportunity to try Suunto).
@@ActiveIdeas Yep, I've been using Suunto Race for 4 months now. I am very satisfied. Battery life is fantastic, especially in ultras with max settings and maps on. I also like that you can simply redraw the route you want on your phone during the activity. A big bonus for design and quality of materials.
Really want to pick one of these up, at least to test. Wish they’d shrunk the black bezel down on the Race, Suunto seems to be following Garmin’s design deficiencies.
Thank you for making this video it was so helpful. Most people just skip over the navigation side of things and talk for hours on health stats. Can I just ask, can you turn off turn by turn navigation/alerts and does it have an off course alarm.?
@@derekmartin8498 Hey Derek! I feel the same but I’m much more interested in the functional ‘real-life” side of things! 👊🏽 You can choose to have turn by turn navigation turned on or off depending on how you make/import your GPX file, admittedly I think Suunto make this much more confusing than it needs to be haha. And yes it does have off course alarm.. all of Garmin, Suunto, Coros and Amazfit seem to buzz with the off course alert at the same distances now 🌟 Hope this helps and merry Christmas!
@@ActiveIdeasthat’s all I need to know. Thanks for your reply mate, much appreciated. Merry Christmas to you as well mate and wish you all the best in 2025.
Very complete video! I would like to ask you some questions: Can you introduce UTM coordinates? Can you set a coordinate you have to go, and then the Race will take you there? The Vertical has an option to know the depth when snorkeling, has the Race this option? Thanks very much
Thankyou! I just looked and it’s GOOD NEWS! On navigation settings you can select UTM as your grid format 🔥 Also.. yes you can navigate to co-ordinates on the go! .. finally, YES, checked the snorkelling mode which as an awesome watch face with a compass, duration and the depth measurements, you can also click through to the next page and see depth and each of your different snorkel laps. Hope this helps and any other questions, just ask 👊🏽
Very good video, well done !!I think this navigation scenario is the most battery drained, can you tell about the battery performance of the watch (% per hour)!! Thank ❤
It seems the blue bearing indicators are on the watch face when navigating to a POI or using the Find My Way Back feature, but not when following a route. Is that right? That's disappointing.
When following a route you don’t need the blue indicator because you have a map 🗺️ with the directional arrows. But yes.. I’d like to see Suunto add blue arrows for when you’re in the data screens (not on the map) so you can still have a sense of direction when checking your data (such as HR, Pace & Distance). I’ll mention this in my next video ❤️
Cheers! 👊🏽 Maps are great on both but if I had to choose just based off maps it would be the Race because of the display and scroll wheel for zooming 🌟
Really on the fence about replacing my 1st gen Apple Watch Ultra with the Suunto race. As good as the Apple Watch is, useful health metrics and navigation based training just doesn’t seem to be its strong point. Still feels to much like a smart watch. And obviously the battery sucks. Would you recommend the Race given what I have said. Thanks.
Thanks, nice video! I ask you for info...if I wanted to navigate to a point on the map (for example a POI, a city...), can I do it without using the application? Is there a "point and go" function? Thanks!
Hey great question mate! A point and go feature isn’t available on Suunto yet. If you want turn by turn routes you’ll have to point and go on the phone first .. send it to your watch (quick to do) to get around this current limitation. Hope this helps ❤️
Of course! Make sure the 22mm band option is selected. It fits the watch perfectly, I find it more comfortable and easier to tighten up for more accurate heart rate. The link is: amzn.to/41MhhkI or if you're having trouble (links can be funny) it can be found in the description along with the FTC. Hope this helps 🔥
@ oh I’ve seen those black lines.. but only in mountains..’usually showing the main trail line? If this is what you mean, i don’t think you can turn this off unfortunately
Yes BUT this will require you to use a Suunto Plus app called “Safe My Location” which will display grid reference, compass, distance, altitude gain, time and your starting location too. This can be used in all activity (run, walk, hike for example) modes. Hoped this helped 🔥🔥
@@ActiveIdeas thank's for the reply. Just one more question. Can you see the splits on your interval training sessions on the watch and app? I have a polar vantage v and can only see that data on the website. Polar flow app doesn't show this. Does the Suunto app show each individual 400m time on a 400m x 10 session for example?
Suunto Plus comes to your rescue again! It’s called “Loop Pace”. Once you’ve finished your distance (for example 200m, 400m 800m) hit the lap button and the Suunto will record your lap times/distances both on the watch AND on the Suunto app 🔥Hope this helps
@@ActiveIdeas does it not record it automatically if it's an internal training session set up on the watch? Or do I have to hit a button at the end of every 400m?
@marksweeney4158 yes, if you have created a structured workout it will record automatically.. in which case, you won’t need Suunto plus. Again, laps will be available on the watch and in the app 🌟
I use Mac, and just airdrop GPX to my iPhone 📲 and then on the Suunto app click for it to go onto your watch.. the whole process takes about 20 seconds max from downlink the file ❤️ Hope this helps 🌟 Can imagine it’s similar on android. Tbh.. you can even email yourself a GPX so there’s no excuses not to get it on the watch 🔥
I have recently bought the Suunto Race Watch and im struggling when doing long routes with the display and Im wondering if you may be able to help. I select a saved route and start navigating (with exercise) but if i catch the screen or move the map to see what is coming ahead of me, how do I go back to where i am on the route and for the display to move with me, I find the map becomes static and I have to zoom in an out to find my location on the route (if that makes sense)
Hey mate! I’d love to help.. I just created a Facebook page called “Active Ideas” with the same logo.. should be easy to find. On there post a video and I’ll see what you mean exactly and I’ll respond with a video on how to fix it 👊🏽
Hi, bro, do you know, if impossible to have internet, may i used offline maps like Osmand, and then open new track in Suunto app - can i send track into watch without internet or not?
On my iPhone I just turned off mobile data and WiFi data but left Bluetooth on to replicate this scenario.. it seems the watch will not sync unless you leave these connections on. I think if you’re offline you’ll still be able to sync these offline maps though.. I’m not too sure but you ask a fantastic question! Unfortunately I don’t live close to anywhere without internet 🛜
An absolute pleasure jean! The strap isn't a Suunto product but the 22mm band fits the watch perfectly, I find it more comfortable and easier to tighten up for more accurate heart rate. The link is: amzn.to/41MhhkI or if you're having trouble (links can be funny) it can be found in the description along with the FTC. Hope this helps ❤️
The scrolling and compass is actually much more smoother on Suunto! Track back was shown in this video but I can make another video for you next week as there have been lots of updates since I filmed this ❤️
I LOVE the race, my heart tells me race.. BUT, my mind tells me Vertical. I can’t explain how good the battery life is on the Vertical Solar. I’ve spent nearly a year never having to worry about battery life on the Vertical.. it’s a very functional reason to get it but it’s freeing
@@ActiveIdeas I use a Suunto Core as my daily for years…the screen is awful but as a watch it’s great. I got an Apple Watch and just can’t get on with its design, nor do I want endless apps. I was looking at Garmin but then spotted the new Suuntos. The only features I really want are, good watch and the ability to load walks from AllTrails, this will save me having to have my phone out all the time…
Hi, what’s your view on the quality of the mapping on mountain routes. This is really where I will be using the watch, I’m trying not to buy a Garmin 🤣
Last weekend I finished the Arc Of Attrition 100 mile race. All I used was the Suunto! The clear strengths were battery life (I ran for 34 hours with mapping and finished with 32%), accuracy of compass (it’s the best in the market), accuracy of gps (it the best in the market) and enjoyed the style of maps. It’s clear weakness was struggling with a 100 mile GPX file.. rather than load every data point, it’s like it took averages.. I’ve not seen my Suunto do this before so I’m confused as to why this happened but it made it hard when it stopped following the track and the line just skipped to the end of the trail so if there was a fork splitting the trail into two I’d have no idea which way to go. Wasn’t a massive issue but I’d did seem that people with Garmin’s were not suffering with this course data limit. 100 miles is a lot of data lol. Anyways, all the best and any other questions, don’t hesitate to ask 🔥
This channel is great! But I have a question. Which watch is better in your opinion? suunto race or fr955? in Poland they both cost the same. I know the differences between them, but I have no experience with sports watches. bike, mountains, running, hikihg, altimeter, navigation accuracy, heart rate, stress level, steps. I don't care about the display. which one would you choose? Regards!
It is no comparison! With the Suunto Race you’re getting a titanium casing, Sapphire glass (bulletproof durability), amoled display (good for map clarity), unreal battery life, massive screen (good for big numbers and a large map), you get the turning crown for zooming in/out/scrolling, superior compass, one of the most accurate gps’s on the market (second to the vertical 🙈).. just to name a few highlights. You mention heart rate accuracy, this is definitely the Race’s major floor and would be much better on the 955. The race is acceptable for activity AVG heart rate, HRV and Spo2.. but in terms of knowing your zones and max heart rate I’d take what the race says with a pinch of salt. The 955 is also SUPER lightweight.. in this channel I have some videos of me attaching a nylon strap and get the weight down to about 40g 🤯 The 955 also great for training data (training readiness, training status, and I believe hill/endurance score is on the 955), great for nerds like me who like their numbers 👍🏽 The 955 is a great watch (i was so excited when this came out) but if they’re the same price 100% get the Race are my personal thoughts 🌟 Hope this helps 🔥
Better than the 955 for multiple reasons.. compared to the Apex 2 Pro though.. I must admit I do like that the maps already came installed on the Apex.. and I had a better maps experience when abroad in the Caribbean islands. I’m not a massive fan of the Coros UI and app though.. and for me that’s a game changer. Trust your gut though, you really can’t go wrong with all three.. think about how much we’d have to pay and how limited our options were 10 years ago 🤣
If only they'd fix the TBT notifications, they'd have very solid navigation. But already showing the next turn when arriving at your current one is awful, especially when there's a lot of them coming up close together.
Thanks for the comment mate ❤️ It does seem improvement is needed in the TBT department when picking through features with a fine comb. But in real world use (when hiking, training or racing) the way the Turn by Turn navigation works has never bothered me and I’ve never noticed it being bothersome, it’s always got the job done without hiccups. It’s worth noting that you can spend lots of time within the Suunto App (or other map creation platforms) creating the perfect GPX to fine tune how many turn by turn navigations you want which could help if you’ve got lots needlessly close together like I did in this video haha. Cheers 👊🏽🌟
I'm with you on that. It's a real pain to reach a junction and be told to turn left in 2km. I don't want to know which way to turn in 2km. I want to know which way to turn NOW. My suunto 9 didn't do this. It told me which way to turn now and then after 50 meters, would say your next waypoint is in 2km.
I’m seeing lots and lots of people mention this now. It does seem like Suunto need to address this, plus it’s about time for another update 🙈 For my personally, I really do need the ability to zoom out more on the maps 5-10km to faster scrolling during ultra events
Hi! Great video. For some reason I feel that UI is not very responsive and kinda buggy. My AWU 1 is way smoother. Do you use low battery mode or something?
Hey mate! Thanks for the comment! I would say the Suunto Race is one of the faster UI’s now within the sports watches realm. For example I’m currently testing the Polar Grit X Pro and it feels like I’ve stepped back a decade in technology 🙈 But yeah.. I guess compared to the Apple Watch it is no comparison. Quite literally apples and oranges. 🍎🍊 Depends want you value more.. smooth animation or insane battery life. All the best 🌟
Would you choose suunto race over the garmin or coros apex 2 pro? I bought epix 2 pro 51mm and love it, feel like i could get most of the same features out ofnthe Suunto Race. I dont care about the smart watch features, text, notificatiions. One is 350 the other is 950 with discounts.
Sounds like you enjoy an Amoled screen if you got the Epix and are interested in the Suunto Race! I’d say stay clear of Coros atm because unfortunately they don’t have Amoled yet. The Suunto Race is an undeniably great deal.. it undercuts the market massively and I would say has better gps too (even compared to Epix Pro). If you don’t care about notifications and smart phone features I think you’ll definitely get on with the race. Another watch to check out is the Polar Git X2 Pro.. Amoled screen and abit cheaper than Epix, still twice the price than a Race though 🌟
@JustinRichway lag is non existent now. The animation is not as smooth as an Apple Watch but just as good as other sport watches (Garmin, polar). HR still needs improvement, to be fire to Suunto they do keep bringing us heart rate updates which do improve the experience.. it does seem the hardware itself is limited though. In my experience the HR is perfect for sleeping HR, sleeping HRV, for runs, and indoor cycling.. and most workouts AVG heart rate is the same as my strap. It will struggle to catch your true resting heart rate and your true MAX ❤️ Hope that helps mate 🌟
Back to safety, in the mountains, walking in a straight line to the starting point - sorry, but this is total idiocy and usually the best way to end your life :) More seriously, Suunto has very poor navigation options in mountainous terrain: the view is only 2km, no access to the compass while displaying the saved GPX route, Find Back in the mountains only makes sense when displaying the saved route at the same time (as it was in older models), then you can see where the starting point is in relation to the displayed map of a tiny 2km area (often completely useless in the mountains without contour lines anyway). In general, Suunto is ok for walking in the park, but going to the mountains is a bad idea, especially since Suunto is removing more and more basic navigation tools from its watches.
Hey Maszop, all comments welcome here! Even slightly critical ones ;) Firstly, I’ve got to give Suunto Credit.. recently on my trip to south wales with Mikaela we did get slightly lost after summiting Pen Y Fan and trying to circumnavigate back to the car via an alternate route (creating a loop); this was a cool route/GPX we’d downloaded off the app “AllTrails” with good reviews. Peaking at 2900ft, heavy rain and strong wind gusts. Not a dangerous situation, we were fully prepped for all scenarios and having fun, but it was annoying because we were both super tired and had work the next day; time was of the essence. The route comes off the beaten track and down a massive hill through steep ankle-high brambles and for about 50m there’s no clear pathway as you walk downhill from one track to another track lower down. Both Coros and Garmin let me down where Garmin had completely lost gps and the Coros compass wasn’t working accurately enough to follow (Mikaela wearing the Coros, and me wearing Suunto on one arm and Garmin on the other). Suunto, on the other hand (no pun intended haha), was flawless with its gps acquisition and with how responsive the compass is inside of the watch I was always able to follow the map in the correct direction; I relied on it for much of this route. It’s such a small detail but the insanely high accuracy of the Suunto Compass is for me why they excel in “the mountains” (in the UK our hills are tiny haha). The most out of my comfort zone I’ve ever been was Crib Goch, a grade 1 scramble, I have a terrible fear of heights. This route is highly exposed and when you get to the pinnacles you have to traverse to the other side of the mountain.. for this manoeuvre I’d personally prefer a Suunto because I know the direction it’s pointing is 100% the direction I should go. Saying that, i do agree that 2km is far too small. It was only a few months back we were limited to 500m so I hope in future updates this 2km limit is increased! 🤞🏽 During ‘Find Back’ you can access the map by pressing the crown. It will show the map and the breadcrumb trail (the route you’ve walked), it also shows your starting location as a final destination so you have a clear marker to aim for. It’s completely up to the user to take the most effient route (the straight line lol) or follow their breadcrumb trail footsteps within this mode. Granted I probably would have shown that we could access the map but I was in a park I know well and the starting location was quite literally in a straight line away from me with no obstructions. Lastly, you can definitely see contour lines on the Race/Vertical since the recent map updates but only between 25m-200m, not at 0.5km, 1km & 2km. It would also be cool if in future updates the user has more control over how to view their maps. Anyways, thanks for the comment 🌟 Always trying my best here, and finding the balance between an insightful video, an engaging video and my free time (takes a long time to edit) is a hard one but I hope I helped 👊🏽🔥
If your idea of “lost in the mountains” is expecting a gps to reroute you onto a different trail……then you aren’t really lost nor remote. When you are off trail or the trails aren’t on map or just stop, then you will be wishing you had this because the gps is soo accurate, 2nd to none. This is speaking from actual experience of using this feature…in the mountains…off trail.
@@jasonroberts9383 You have GPS everywhere nowadays, in watches, phones, dedicated devices - there's nothing to get excited about. What is important is the whole thing combined: GPS, compass, map, GPX route, altimeter, ease of use in difficult conditions (physical buttons), contour lines and the size of the area displayed on the map - Suunto looks very poor here. In the latest models it is not possible to conveniently use all these functions at once, which is completely incomprehensible in this type of watches. This is an obvious standard for other manufacturers. Currently, Suunto watches do not show an area larger than 2 km, which is completely incomprehensible, with a loaded GPX route (which is obvious during any major trip to the mountains) you do not have easy access to the compass, Find Back function and many other basic tools.
@@ActiveIdeas My comment sounded quite harsh because what I wrote about used to be in Suunto watches, but over the last few years it has been systematically removed with each new model - recently they removed the contour lines in the 500m-2km view. Probably you noticed that when making this video that it's impossible to see and use all of this tools without completely switching the navigation modes. Either a gpx route, or a compass, or distances/elevation to a given POI/Waypoint, or Find Back. To check it in the field, you have to do a lot of clicking, it's quicker to take out a map or your phone. Optimally, it would be like before: a map with a loaded GPS route, clicking and switching to the next screen with e.g. a compass, the next one shows poi/waypoints, statistics, elevation plot, etc. This is how it is in watches from other manufacturers, this is how it was in older Suunto models. Thanks for great videos 👍
So in your opinion, what's a good watch for trail running? I have a Garmin 735xt and I wish there was a way to show in a screen the elevation profile of a gpx course you are following. How long will this uphill trail be? This would make a huge difference to me xd. Thanks.
Hello mate just wanted to say thank you, as it was because of you I bought the Suunto Vertical a week ago and absolutely love it it is so good, I was a Garmin user for more that 20 years but really glad I switched so Thank you :) Awesome videos
Awhh mate, thankyou for the heartfelt comment! Supper appreciate it Tod! Glad I could help with your decision, and love that you’re enjoying the videos! Welcome to the Suunto club ;) and all the best with your Vertical adventures
Could you name some or any betters with suunto? Just wonder, as runner and Fenix 7 user.
Sounds very good.
Both are great, Suunto wins on gps accuracy 👊🏽
Definitely worth checking out Tom 🔥
Mate, your videos are awesome! These real examples make the whole presentation more unique from everything there is on YT. Big up!!! You've got a new subscriber mate!
Love this mate! Thanks for the support, onwards and upwards 🔥❤️
exactly what i needed to find out about this watch before buying it. Thanks a lot! Cheers!
Here for the people 🔥❤️👊🏽 Glad I could help
Just to say thank you for this video. I ordered the race after watching this and playing a bit with the vertical. The screen is fantastic on the race and the scroll wheel is so much more intuitive. Still love the vertical but after realising I’d be paying £210 more for the longer battery but less clear screen. Whilst I’d love to think I’d be exploring the wilderness and need the vertical in reality I’m rarely more than a hour or too away from a charging socket…
An absolute pleasure Gavin! The race is definitely one of the best watches out there and it’s crazy just how affordable it is compared to watches within its same category 🔥 The battery life is more than enough for most people too.. like you said, unless you’re doing 100’s of hours out in the wilderness with no electric access.. maybe then would the £210 be more justified. The screen quality for maps is a dream 😍
Fantastic review i just ordered the Race titanium from Amazon big up from London
Yes lad! Hope you enjoy it! If you have any question just drop a comment & me or Abie will get back to you 🔥 Big Up! 👊🏽
Really informative. Thx
Legend! 👊🏽 Thx
Hey! I HIGHLY recommend watching this navigational video from start to finish and following along the adventure/story! However, if you’re here for certain features feel free to use the timestamps/chapters! All the best 🔥👊🏽 #SuuntoRace #Hiking #Maps #Nav
Thanks for the comprehensive reviews. I see that Suunto Race Maps is much smoother than Garmin.
An absolute pleasure Uldis! Glad you’ve enjoyed the videos 🙈🙈 It’s definitely a smooth experience on Suunto now, especially after many of the welcomed software updates 🔥
@@ActiveIdeas I am currently looking for a new watch. I have been using the Garmin FR series for 7 years. It seems that the time has come to switch to Suunto, considering the price performance and I liked several things better than Garmin (I had the opportunity to try Suunto).
Did you get a watch in the end? 🔥
@@ActiveIdeas Yep, I've been using Suunto Race for 4 months now. I am very satisfied. Battery life is fantastic, especially in ultras with max settings and maps on. I also like that you can simply redraw the route you want on your phone during the activity. A big bonus for design and quality of materials.
Really want to pick one of these up, at least to test. Wish they’d shrunk the black bezel down on the Race, Suunto seems to be following Garmin’s design deficiencies.
Haha! Yeah, seems crazy that it’s 2024 and we’re talking about A.I taking over the world, yet we still have big bezels on all of our sports watches 🙈
I’m going on an adventureeee 🗺️ 🤩 #TLOTR #ROP
Thank you for making this video it was so helpful. Most people just skip over the navigation side of things and talk for hours on health stats. Can I just ask, can you turn off turn by turn navigation/alerts and does it have an off course alarm.?
@@derekmartin8498 Hey Derek! I feel the same but I’m much more interested in the functional ‘real-life” side of things! 👊🏽 You can choose to have turn by turn navigation turned on or off depending on how you make/import your GPX file, admittedly I think Suunto make this much more confusing than it needs to be haha. And yes it does have off course alarm.. all of Garmin, Suunto, Coros and Amazfit seem to buzz with the off course alert at the same distances now 🌟 Hope this helps and merry Christmas!
@@ActiveIdeasthat’s all I need to know. Thanks for your reply mate, much appreciated. Merry Christmas to you as well mate and wish you all the best in 2025.
Great video, thank you!
Thankyou so much!
Very complete video! I would like to ask you some questions: Can you introduce UTM coordinates? Can you set a coordinate you have to go, and then the Race will take you there? The Vertical has an option to know the depth when snorkeling, has the Race this option? Thanks very much
Thankyou! I just looked and it’s GOOD NEWS! On navigation settings you can select UTM as your grid format 🔥 Also.. yes you can navigate to co-ordinates on the go! .. finally, YES, checked the snorkelling mode which as an awesome watch face with a compass, duration and the depth measurements, you can also click through to the next page and see depth and each of your different snorkel laps. Hope this helps and any other questions, just ask 👊🏽
@@ActiveIdeas Very helpful!!! Thank you very much. I was decided to get a Vertical but now, I'm changing my mind, it's a tought decission!
Ahhhhh 🔥
Very good video, well done !!I think this navigation scenario is the most battery drained, can you tell about the battery performance of the watch (% per hour)!! Thank ❤
Give me a day and I’ll come back to you with that exact number ❤️ it’s impressive from what I can remember 👍🏽 Thanks for the comment 🌟
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It seems the blue bearing indicators are on the watch face when navigating to a POI or using the Find My Way Back feature, but not when following a route. Is that right? That's disappointing.
When following a route you don’t need the blue indicator because you have a map 🗺️ with the directional arrows. But yes.. I’d like to see Suunto add blue arrows for when you’re in the data screens (not on the map) so you can still have a sense of direction when checking your data (such as HR, Pace & Distance). I’ll mention this in my next video ❤️
Great video! Do you like the maps on the Race or The Vertical best?
Cheers! 👊🏽 Maps are great on both but if I had to choose just based off maps it would be the Race because of the display and scroll wheel for zooming 🌟
@@ActiveIdeas thanks I appreciate it.
@anthonyrampino7734 of course 👊🏽
@@ActiveIdeas so, over all besides the maps which one do you prefer? The Race or the vertical?
Really on the fence about replacing my 1st gen Apple Watch Ultra with the Suunto race. As good as the Apple Watch is, useful health metrics and navigation based training just doesn’t seem to be its strong point. Still feels to much like a smart watch. And obviously the battery sucks. Would you recommend the Race given what I have said. Thanks.
Thanks, nice video! I ask you for info...if I wanted to navigate to a point on the map (for example a POI, a city...), can I do it without using the application? Is there a "point and go" function? Thanks!
Hey great question mate! A point and go feature isn’t available on Suunto yet. If you want turn by turn routes you’ll have to point and go on the phone first .. send it to your watch (quick to do) to get around this current limitation. Hope this helps ❤️
Hi, can you share link to the race strap ?, thanks and like
Of course! Make sure the 22mm band option is selected. It fits the watch perfectly, I find it more comfortable and easier to tighten up for more accurate heart rate. The link is: amzn.to/41MhhkI or if you're having trouble (links can be funny) it can be found in the description along with the FTC. Hope this helps 🔥
Why do I get black and white lines on rites?
@@georgeperatinos5782 what do you mean George?
Black and white lines on rutes maps , hot to get rid off??? Please
@ oh I’ve seen those black lines.. but only in mountains..’usually showing the main trail line? If this is what you mean, i don’t think you can turn this off unfortunately
Can you get a grid reference and compass to show on the same screen?
Yes BUT this will require you to use a Suunto Plus app called “Safe My Location” which will display grid reference, compass, distance, altitude gain, time and your starting location too. This can be used in all activity (run, walk, hike for example) modes. Hoped this helped 🔥🔥
@@ActiveIdeas thank's for the reply. Just one more question. Can you see the splits on your interval training sessions on the watch and app? I have a polar vantage v and can only see that data on the website. Polar flow app doesn't show this. Does the Suunto app show each individual 400m time on a 400m x 10 session for example?
Suunto Plus comes to your rescue again! It’s called “Loop Pace”. Once you’ve finished your distance (for example 200m, 400m 800m) hit the lap button and the Suunto will record your lap times/distances both on the watch AND on the Suunto app 🔥Hope this helps
@@ActiveIdeas does it not record it automatically if it's an internal training session set up on the watch? Or do I have to hit a button at the end of every 400m?
@marksweeney4158 yes, if you have created a structured workout it will record automatically.. in which case, you won’t need Suunto plus. Again, laps will be available on the watch and in the app 🌟
Is it possible to turn off the tone when using the turn by turn feature, thanks
Yeah, I believe so mate 👊🏽
Is it possible to import GPX-files from the computer to the watch?
I use Mac, and just airdrop GPX to my iPhone 📲 and then on the Suunto app click for it to go onto your watch.. the whole process takes about 20 seconds max from downlink the file ❤️
Hope this helps 🌟 Can imagine it’s similar on android. Tbh.. you can even email yourself a GPX so there’s no excuses not to get it on the watch 🔥
I have recently bought the Suunto Race Watch and im struggling when doing long routes with the display and Im wondering if you may be able to help. I select a saved route and start navigating (with exercise) but if i catch the screen or move the map to see what is coming ahead of me, how do I go back to where i am on the route and for the display to move with me, I find the map becomes static and I have to zoom in an out to find my location on the route (if that makes sense)
Hey mate! I’d love to help.. I just created a Facebook page called “Active Ideas” with the same logo.. should be easy to find.
On there post a video and I’ll see what you mean exactly and I’ll respond with a video on how to fix it 👊🏽
Have found you 👍 I’m doing an ultra on Saturday so will try and record then. Thank you
Good luck in your race! Any chance you can video what you mean now? I might be able to help you before your race 🌟
Hi, bro, do you know, if impossible to have internet, may i used offline maps like Osmand, and then open new track in Suunto app - can i send track into watch without internet or not?
On my iPhone I just turned off mobile data and WiFi data but left Bluetooth on to replicate this scenario.. it seems the watch will not sync unless you leave these connections on. I think if you’re offline you’ll still be able to sync these offline maps though.. I’m not too sure but you ask a fantastic question! Unfortunately I don’t live close to anywhere without internet 🛜
@@ActiveIdeas asked one man, who has watchblog , he said it works only on suunto, you can open GPX file and send this track into watches.
hey bud, which strap are you using?
Strap links are on the description ❤️ highly recommend these nylon bands
Thanks for your video. What is your wristband ? It’s not a Suunto product ?
An absolute pleasure jean! The strap isn't a Suunto product but the 22mm band fits the watch perfectly, I find it more comfortable and easier to tighten up for more accurate heart rate. The link is: amzn.to/41MhhkI or if you're having trouble (links can be funny) it can be found in the description along with the FTC. Hope this helps ❤️
Thanks a lot
@jean-michelviale3489 👊🏽
nawigacja wygląda na bardziej płynną niż w garmin, możesz mi powiedzieć czy zegarek ma wgrane mapy ? i jak działa backtrack ?
The scrolling and compass is actually much more smoother on Suunto! Track back was shown in this video but I can make another video for you next week as there have been lots of updates since I filmed this ❤️
Czyli ten siwy kolor ma 32gb a czarny i srebrny ma 16gb tak? Zrobisz filmik jak działa opcja backtrack proszę,bo tylko na tym mi zależy
Would this video STILL be useful? I can make
This video so that it is ready to be viewed next week.
Can’t decide between vertical or race - totally torn
I LOVE the race, my heart tells me race.. BUT, my mind tells me Vertical. I can’t explain how good the battery life is on the Vertical Solar. I’ve spent nearly a year never having to worry about battery life on the Vertical.. it’s a very functional reason to get it but it’s freeing
@@ActiveIdeas I use a Suunto Core as my daily for years…the screen is awful but as a watch it’s great. I got an Apple Watch and just can’t get on with its design, nor do I want endless apps. I was looking at Garmin but then spotted the new Suuntos. The only features I really want are, good watch and the ability to load walks from AllTrails, this will save me having to have my phone out all the time…
What are your thoughts on the brand new Race S?!?! 😍
Hi, what’s your view on the quality of the mapping on mountain routes. This is really where I will be using the watch, I’m trying not to buy a Garmin 🤣
Last weekend I finished the Arc Of Attrition 100 mile race. All I used was the Suunto! The clear strengths were battery life (I ran for 34 hours with mapping and finished with 32%), accuracy of compass (it’s the best in the market), accuracy of gps (it the best in the market) and enjoyed the style of maps. It’s clear weakness was struggling with a 100 mile GPX file.. rather than load every data point, it’s like it took averages.. I’ve not seen my Suunto do this before so I’m confused as to why this happened but it made it hard when it stopped following the track and the line just skipped to the end of the trail so if there was a fork splitting the trail into two I’d have no idea which way to go. Wasn’t a massive issue but I’d did seem that people with Garmin’s were not suffering with this course data limit. 100 miles is a lot of data lol. Anyways, all the best and any other questions, don’t hesitate to ask 🔥
This channel is great! But I have a question. Which watch is better in your opinion? suunto race or fr955? in Poland they both cost the same. I know the differences between them, but I have no experience with sports watches. bike, mountains, running, hikihg, altimeter, navigation accuracy, heart rate, stress level, steps. I don't care about the display. which one would you choose? Regards!
It is no comparison! With the Suunto Race you’re getting a titanium casing, Sapphire glass (bulletproof durability), amoled display (good for map clarity), unreal battery life, massive screen (good for big numbers and a large map), you get the turning crown for zooming in/out/scrolling, superior compass, one of the most accurate gps’s on the market (second to the vertical 🙈).. just to name a few highlights. You mention heart rate accuracy, this is definitely the Race’s major floor and would be much better on the 955. The race is acceptable for activity AVG heart rate, HRV and Spo2.. but in terms of knowing your zones and max heart rate I’d take what the race says with a pinch of salt. The 955 is also SUPER lightweight.. in this channel I have some videos of me attaching a nylon strap and get the weight down to about 40g 🤯 The 955 also great for training data (training readiness, training status, and I believe hill/endurance score is on the 955), great for nerds like me who like their numbers 👍🏽
The 955 is a great watch (i was so excited when this came out) but if they’re the same price 100% get the Race are my personal thoughts 🌟
Hope this helps 🔥
@@ActiveIdeas Same boat here, is the race better than the 955 and the coros apex 2 pro?
Better than the 955 for multiple reasons.. compared to the Apex 2 Pro though.. I must admit I do like that the maps already came installed on the Apex.. and I had a better maps experience when abroad in the Caribbean islands. I’m not a massive fan of the Coros UI and app though.. and for me that’s a game changer. Trust your gut though, you really can’t go wrong with all three.. think about how much we’d have to pay and how limited our options were 10 years ago 🤣
Thank you very much! All the best in the New Year! ;)
Happy new year to you too!@@_Wilhelm_ ;)
If only they'd fix the TBT notifications, they'd have very solid navigation. But already showing the next turn when arriving at your current one is awful, especially when there's a lot of them coming up close together.
Thanks for the comment mate ❤️ It does seem improvement is needed in the TBT department when picking through features with a fine comb. But in real world use (when hiking, training or racing) the way the Turn by Turn navigation works has never bothered me and I’ve never noticed it being bothersome, it’s always got the job done without hiccups. It’s worth noting that you can spend lots of time within the Suunto App (or other map creation platforms) creating the perfect GPX to fine tune how many turn by turn navigations you want which could help if you’ve got lots needlessly close together like I did in this video haha. Cheers 👊🏽🌟
I'm with you on that. It's a real pain to reach a junction and be told to turn left in 2km. I don't want to know which way to turn in 2km. I want to know which way to turn NOW. My suunto 9 didn't do this. It told me which way to turn now and then after 50 meters, would say your next waypoint is in 2km.
I’m seeing lots and lots of people mention this now. It does seem like Suunto need to address this, plus it’s about time for another update 🙈 For my personally, I really do need the ability to zoom out more on the maps 5-10km to faster scrolling during ultra events
Proszę zrób film jak działa backtrack bo tylko ta funkcja mnie interesuje
Roger that my friend!
Hi! Great video. For some reason I feel that UI is not very responsive and kinda buggy. My AWU 1 is way smoother. Do you use low battery mode or something?
Hey mate! Thanks for the comment! I would say the Suunto Race is one of the faster UI’s now within the sports watches realm. For example I’m currently testing the Polar Grit X Pro and it feels like I’ve stepped back a decade in technology 🙈 But yeah.. I guess compared to the Apple Watch it is no comparison. Quite literally apples and oranges. 🍎🍊 Depends want you value more.. smooth animation or insane battery life. All the best 🌟
Would you choose suunto race over the garmin or coros apex 2 pro? I bought epix 2 pro 51mm and love it, feel like i could get most of the same features out ofnthe Suunto Race. I dont care about the smart watch features, text, notificatiions. One is 350 the other is 950 with discounts.
Sounds like you enjoy an Amoled screen if you got the Epix and are interested in the Suunto Race! I’d say stay clear of Coros atm because unfortunately they don’t have Amoled yet. The Suunto Race is an undeniably great deal.. it undercuts the market massively and I would say has better gps too (even compared to Epix Pro). If you don’t care about notifications and smart phone features I think you’ll definitely get on with the race. Another watch to check out is the Polar Git X2 Pro.. Amoled screen and abit cheaper than Epix, still twice the price than a Race though 🌟
Thank you! Have some of the kinks been worked out with the race? Lag, heart rate tracking?
Would youngo titanium over steel?
@JustinRichway lag is non existent now. The animation is not as smooth as an Apple Watch but just as good as other sport watches (Garmin, polar). HR still needs improvement, to be fire to Suunto they do keep bringing us heart rate updates which do improve the experience.. it does seem the hardware itself is limited though. In my experience the HR is perfect for sleeping HR, sleeping HRV, for runs, and indoor cycling.. and most workouts AVG heart rate is the same as my strap. It will struggle to catch your true resting heart rate and your true MAX ❤️ Hope that helps mate 🌟
@@ActiveIdeas thank you!!
Do you think it’s worth the extra money for the titanium version?
For most people I’d say not really.. plus the black steel version looks so wicked!!
@@ActiveIdeas sounds good, I kinda like the black better too. Thanks!
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Back to safety, in the mountains, walking in a straight line to the starting point - sorry, but this is total idiocy and usually the best way to end your life :)
More seriously, Suunto has very poor navigation options in mountainous terrain: the view is only 2km, no access to the compass while displaying the saved GPX route, Find Back in the mountains only makes sense when displaying the saved route at the same time (as it was in older models), then you can see where the starting point is in relation to the displayed map of a tiny 2km area (often completely useless in the mountains without contour lines anyway).
In general, Suunto is ok for walking in the park, but going to the mountains is a bad idea, especially since Suunto is removing more and more basic navigation tools from its watches.
Hey Maszop, all comments welcome here! Even slightly critical ones ;) Firstly, I’ve got to give Suunto Credit.. recently on my trip to south wales with Mikaela we did get slightly lost after summiting Pen Y Fan and trying to circumnavigate back to the car via an alternate route (creating a loop); this was a cool route/GPX we’d downloaded off the app “AllTrails” with good reviews. Peaking at 2900ft, heavy rain and strong wind gusts. Not a dangerous situation, we were fully prepped for all scenarios and having fun, but it was annoying because we were both super tired and had work the next day; time was of the essence. The route comes off the beaten track and down a massive hill through steep ankle-high brambles and for about 50m there’s no clear pathway as you walk downhill from one track to another track lower down. Both Coros and Garmin let me down where Garmin had completely lost gps and the Coros compass wasn’t working accurately enough to follow (Mikaela wearing the Coros, and me wearing Suunto on one arm and Garmin on the other). Suunto, on the other hand (no pun intended haha), was flawless with its gps acquisition and with how responsive the compass is inside of the watch I was always able to follow the map in the correct direction; I relied on it for much of this route. It’s such a small detail but the insanely high accuracy of the Suunto Compass is for me why they excel in “the mountains” (in the UK our hills are tiny haha). The most out of my comfort zone I’ve ever been was Crib Goch, a grade 1 scramble, I have a terrible fear of heights. This route is highly exposed and when you get to the pinnacles you have to traverse to the other side of the mountain.. for this manoeuvre I’d personally prefer a Suunto because I know the direction it’s pointing is 100% the direction I should go.
Saying that, i do agree that 2km is far too small. It was only a few months back we were limited to 500m so I hope in future updates this 2km limit is increased! 🤞🏽
During ‘Find Back’ you can access the map by pressing the crown. It will show the map and the breadcrumb trail (the route you’ve walked), it also shows your starting location as a final destination so you have a clear marker to aim for. It’s completely up to the user to take the most effient route (the straight line lol) or follow their breadcrumb trail footsteps within this mode. Granted I probably would have shown that we could access the map but I was in a park I know well and the starting location was quite literally in a straight line away from me with no obstructions.
Lastly, you can definitely see contour lines on the Race/Vertical since the recent map updates but only between 25m-200m, not at 0.5km, 1km & 2km. It would also be cool if in future updates the user has more control over how to view their maps.
Anyways, thanks for the comment 🌟 Always trying my best here, and finding the balance between an insightful video, an engaging video and my free time (takes a long time to edit) is a hard one but I hope I helped 👊🏽🔥
If your idea of “lost in the mountains” is expecting a gps to reroute you onto a different trail……then you aren’t really lost nor remote.
When you are off trail or the trails aren’t on map or just stop, then you will be wishing you had this because the gps is soo accurate, 2nd to none.
This is speaking from actual experience of using this feature…in the mountains…off trail.
@@jasonroberts9383
You have GPS everywhere nowadays, in watches, phones, dedicated devices - there's nothing to get excited about. What is important is the whole thing combined: GPS, compass, map, GPX route, altimeter, ease of use in difficult conditions (physical buttons), contour lines and the size of the area displayed on the map - Suunto looks very poor here. In the latest models it is not possible to conveniently use all these functions at once, which is completely incomprehensible in this type of watches. This is an obvious standard for other manufacturers.
Currently, Suunto watches do not show an area larger than 2 km, which is completely incomprehensible, with a loaded GPX route (which is obvious during any major trip to the mountains) you do not have easy access to the compass, Find Back function and many other basic tools.
@@ActiveIdeas My comment sounded quite harsh because what I wrote about used to be in Suunto watches, but over the last few years it has been systematically removed with each new model - recently they removed the contour lines in the 500m-2km view. Probably you noticed that when making this video that it's impossible to see and use all of this tools without completely switching the navigation modes. Either a gpx route, or a compass, or distances/elevation to a given POI/Waypoint, or Find Back. To check it in the field, you have to do a lot of clicking, it's quicker to take out a map or your phone. Optimally, it would be like before: a map with a loaded GPS route, clicking and switching to the next screen with e.g. a compass, the next one shows poi/waypoints, statistics, elevation plot, etc. This is how it is in watches from other manufacturers, this is how it was in older Suunto models.
Thanks for great videos 👍
So in your opinion, what's a good watch for trail running? I have a Garmin 735xt and I wish there was a way to show in a screen the elevation profile of a gpx course you are following. How long will this uphill trail be? This would make a huge difference to me xd. Thanks.
The video is probably good, but sorry can't understand half of it because of the heavy British accent.
Hahaha, this is the first comment I’ve had mentioning this. I’ll try and tone it down for the future ☺️