Quinn - thanks so much for watching, and commenting. As I was puzzling over how to quickly clamp and release that brass bar for bending, I hatched the idea of using the vise on my mill, and it worked amazingly well. I'll be very eager to see what you dream up!
Even though I’m a machinist and fabricator I learnt a lot from this video. Ron is not just a craftsmen, he’s also very clever. Thank you Ron for sharing your knowledge.
i watch and know your work from a kid. Back in the Monster garage / Chopper building era back when you co-work with Jesse Jemes and Billy Lane. Till this day - you never disappoint' with your MASTER craftsmanship. You are by far ... one of the BEST in the industry (in my opinion) Respect from BULGARIA
Yet again Ron, making the deceptively difficult look easy, by using your incredible ingenuity and life long experience. Always an absolute joy to watch 🧡
Great video Ron. You always have unique ways to fixture various components with common shop tools. The routered edge detail on the was a nice touch too
I love how you calculate the diameters, and backspring ratios from different materials. Just great and satisfying to watch.. All the best from Austria ☺️
Hi Ron!, just thanks for sharing your vast knowledge. It is always a pleasure to listen your gentle tone and precise words. For those about tools and procedures, your content is wonderful. Kind regards from Argentina
What a pleasure watching you work and listening to you share your knowledge. As a drummer, I found this project to be extra special. Best wishes to you!
Fantastic job! I stumbled on this one because i found an old, torn up drum set that i decided to rebuild for my church. Some of the hardware is trash and i have been considering getting into casting anyway, so i decided to look into making hardware. I love your videos anyway, so when i seen that you've done this, i got excited!
Legué aquí por tu video del casco de cobre para banjo, y ahora también hiciste los aros, estaré pendiente de cuando hagas el video del sistema de tensión/ afinación , mi idea es aplicar todo esto en la construcción de redoblantes para batería. Muchas gracias, tu canal es oro puro.
Ron, I really enjoy your videos and learn so much from each of them. I especially like the simplicity and cleverness of your clamping and material holding. Brilliant use of C-Clamps, vise grips, wooden forms, and carpenter’s clamps. I was surprised to see you use the Bridgeport mill: you didn’t have an old nail file available?😊
@@RonCovell HI Ron, I know about the banjo rim (it was me that you worked with!). One of the differences in the method I am working on, which is based on examing older banjo tension hoops, is to not use flat end on the pieces to be silver soldered. Instead, the old method is to use a round file and put a cove in one end and file the othe mating end into a half round. By making the bend a little tight, the spring force produced when the two ends are mated keeps everything aligned. Like you, clamping to a flat surface and drawing the solder through the joint is key. Lots of ways to skin a cat!
MDF seems to be the staple for this kind of one off jobs? I recently had a job where i had to bend an 30 x 10 mm hot rolled mild steel profile and into a ring of about 360 mm diameter. Missing entirely on any MDF the fun soon became a chore and then a nightmare - luckily enough i somehow managed to see it thru (it is a proud 6PK belt pulley now) but for an instant i was not sure i'll pull it thru... The instant i saw Your method i knew it lends itself just perfectly for tasks like that - accuracy and flatness are simple to maintain and ascertain this way. Much appreciated for sharing! I opted for gradually bending my stock on a press and rely on surplus material. Luck had it I was done a week too early to benefit off of Your method...
Well, there are many ways to do any particular job. I use MDF because it's inexpensive, lightweight, and easy to cut. It has served me very well over the years for all kinds of applications.
Love your channel, I'm learning all kinds of new stuff here! Thank you! One question: would it have been crazy or a bad idea to route the round over before you bent the hoop? Or would that cause problems?
I'm so glad you like my channel. While you certainly could round the edges of the band before rolling it into a ring, I think the details of clamping and aligning the ends, and smoothing the joint would be eased if you leave the corners in place while soldering.
Yes, 'springback' is what this phenomenon is called. Many factors affect springback. Thin, soft metals don't spring back much at all (think of tinfoil here), whereas thick, tough metals spring back a huge amount. This video shows many examples: ruclips.net/video/nQFz6GOnQ_I/видео.html
@@RonCovell Not related but there is more misinformation than information on DIY spring making, and there's not much misinformation. So I've seen two videos by people that generally know far more about machining than I ever wiil just wrap wire around a tube form which work hardens the wire slightly and then state with complete certainty they have made a spring and that's how springs are made, totally absolutely and obviously false. They have bent a piece of wire that is just as easily unbent. The only information I have found that makes a spring is ... new mainspring for a Ballard rifle by Midway. Springs are made from a particular kind of steel, After shaping and smoothing the steel is heated and quenched which makes it hard and brittle, then re-heated to a high but much lower temperature that tempers it, making a strong spring.
Thanks for chiming in on this. I have seen This Old Tony's, and Blondihacks' videos on shop-made springs, and I consider each of their videos well done. They use a very strong material, commonly called 'music wire', and when wrapped around a mandrel, it does make a very serviceable spring. When you say a spring can be 'unbent' as easily as it it 'bent, I think you may be confusing the forces used in MAKING a coil spring, which IS bending, with the forces used in stretching or compressing a coil spring, which translates to TORSION in the spring wire. Certainly you can destroy any coil spring by over-stretching it, but within the limits they are designed for, the simple techniques shown in these videos works quite well. Here's a link for a video on a machine designed for making springs in a mass-production setting, and you will note that no mandrel is required: ruclips.net/user/shortsMGp7DIr55mI While some springs may require heat treatment after forming, I believe the vast majority of SMALL coil springs are made without this step.
@@RonCovell Music Wire is widely available in hobby shops, used for control linkage in RC aircraft. K&S is common brand. The only use I anticipate for small coil spring would be in outboard motor where stretching of spring would occur at worst possible time.
That bending fixture for the vise is extremely clever. I’ll be borrowing that at some point. 😄
Quinn - thanks so much for watching, and commenting.
As I was puzzling over how to quickly clamp and release that brass bar for bending, I hatched the idea of using the vise on my mill, and it worked amazingly well. I'll be very eager to see what you dream up!
Your solutions to very tricky problems are so elegant! And not requiring any special tools. So good!
That vice jig is awesome and yet so simple, im definitely going to make one.
As you can see, it really works well!
Even though I’m a machinist and fabricator I learnt a lot from this video. Ron is not just a craftsmen, he’s also very clever. Thank you Ron for sharing your knowledge.
Wow, thanks!
Hi Ron, thank you for another wonderful upload, it showcases your skills as a fabricator and a communicator. Cheers from OZ mate.
Wow, thanks!
i watch and know your work from a kid.
Back in the Monster garage / Chopper building era back when you co-work with Jesse Jemes and Billy Lane.
Till this day - you never disappoint' with your MASTER craftsmanship.
You are by far ... one of the BEST in the industry (in my opinion)
Respect from BULGARIA
Wow - that is very high praise, indeed. Thank you so much for watching my videos, and for taking the time to comment!
Yet again Ron, making the deceptively difficult look easy, by using your incredible ingenuity and life long experience. Always an absolute joy to watch 🧡
Thanks so much, Deena! Your longstanding interest means so much to me.
Great video Ron. You always have unique ways to fixture various components with common shop tools.
The routered edge detail on the was a nice touch too
Hey, I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
I love how you calculate the diameters, and backspring ratios from different materials. Just great and satisfying to watch.. All the best from Austria ☺️
Thank you very much!
Ron, your craftsmanship is beyond compare! Patience is a virtue and you have the market sewn up. Thanks for sharing your expertise.
Thank you very much!
Thank you for nice video. Metalwork looks so smooth and easy in your way of making. 👏👍
I'm so glad you enjoyed this video!
Hi Ron!, just thanks for sharing your vast knowledge. It is always a pleasure to listen your gentle tone and precise words. For those about tools and procedures, your content is wonderful. Kind regards from Argentina
Thank you so much for the very kind words!
I am so impressed of whatever you do. You also explain the steps i a very good way.
I'm delighted that you enjoy my videos!
What a pleasure watching you work and listening to you share your knowledge. As a drummer, I found this project to be extra special. Best wishes to you!
I'm so glad you enjoyed this video. I have over 100 more videos on my channel, so you might enjoy some others!
As a welder/fabricator and drummer, this was a very cool video to watch! Very inspiring!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Beautiful Ron, as always. As a drummer myself I love the way those came out.
Thank you kindly!
Fantastic job! I stumbled on this one because i found an old, torn up drum set that i decided to rebuild for my church. Some of the hardware is trash and i have been considering getting into casting anyway, so i decided to look into making hardware. I love your videos anyway, so when i seen that you've done this, i got excited!
Good luck with your project!
Beautiful work!
I was hoping we'd get to see you tackle putting the tension rod ears on it as well, that's a whole other challenge.
Hey - maybe next time!
Amazed with the clean and perfect job, congratulations!
Thank you very much!
@@RonCovell You are welcome!
Legué aquí por tu video del casco de cobre para banjo, y ahora también hiciste los aros, estaré pendiente de cuando hagas el video del sistema de tensión/ afinación , mi idea es aplicar todo esto en la construcción de redoblantes para batería.
Muchas gracias, tu canal es oro puro.
Me alegra mucho que te gusten mis vídeos. Espero trabajar más para el baterista que encargó los aros, ¡y lo verás en mi canal cuando suceda!
Ron, I really enjoy your videos and learn so much from each of them. I especially like the simplicity and cleverness of your clamping and material holding. Brilliant use of C-Clamps, vise grips, wooden forms, and carpenter’s clamps. I was surprised to see you use the Bridgeport mill: you didn’t have an old nail file available?😊
Glad you like them, and thanks so much for commenting!
THANK YOU, RON!!!! YOUR AMAZING BUILD VIDEOS ARE ALWAYS "TOP-NOTCH"!!! MUCH APPRECIATED!!!
You are very welcome!
Hi Ron- banjos use similar hoops! I am working on them now as well. Great video!
I did make a video on making a banjo rim:
ruclips.net/video/uEo8JxMG8bg/видео.html
I would be interested in seeing how you do it!
@@RonCovell HI Ron, I know about the banjo rim (it was me that you worked with!). One of the differences in the method I am working on, which is based on examing older banjo tension hoops, is to not use flat end on the pieces to be silver soldered. Instead, the old method is to use a round file and put a cove in one end and file the othe mating end into a half round. By making the bend a little tight, the spring force produced when the two ends are mated keeps everything aligned. Like you, clamping to a flat surface and drawing the solder through the joint is key. Lots of ways to skin a cat!
Steve - sorry I didn't recognize your name when I replied to your comment. Filing a 'tab and socket' joint is a clever way to maintain alignment!
👍I bet that'll be one snazzy drumset!
I haven't seen the entire drumset yet, but there has been talk about making a complete snare drum from brass.
Just Magic 👍👍👍👍PS Hope to make soon vid on shrinking
I'm so glad you enjoyed this video. I'll think about doing a video on shrinking!
@@RonCovell 👍👍
Incredible how much spring-back brass has. May explain why it sometimes gets so noisy when machining it.
Good point. Bells are often made of brass and bronze, so those metals must be chosen because they have some unique sonic characteristics.
Cool!
I'm so glad you enjoyed this video!
So clever 🤔🤯
MDF seems to be the staple for this kind of one off jobs?
I recently had a job where i had to bend an 30 x 10 mm hot rolled mild steel profile and into a ring of about 360 mm diameter. Missing entirely on any MDF the fun soon became a chore and then a nightmare - luckily enough i somehow managed to see it thru (it is a proud 6PK belt pulley now) but for an instant i was not sure i'll pull it thru... The instant i saw Your method i knew it lends itself just perfectly for tasks like that - accuracy and flatness are simple to maintain and ascertain this way. Much appreciated for sharing!
I opted for gradually bending my stock on a press and rely on surplus material. Luck had it I was done a week too early to benefit off of Your method...
Well, there are many ways to do any particular job. I use MDF because it's inexpensive, lightweight, and easy to cut. It has served me very well over the years for all kinds of applications.
Love your channel, I'm learning all kinds of new stuff here! Thank you! One question: would it have been crazy or a bad idea to route the round over before you bent the hoop? Or would that cause problems?
I'm so glad you like my channel. While you certainly could round the edges of the band before rolling it into a ring, I think the details of clamping and aligning the ends, and smoothing the joint would be eased if you leave the corners in place while soldering.
How are they complete? There's no bolt holes or flanges for mounting?
The musician I made these hoops for did the mounting, and I have not seen a picture of it.
I have not done much bending. How does a smaller diameter circle produce a larger diameter circle? Does the material spring back so much?
Yes, 'springback' is what this phenomenon is called. Many factors affect springback. Thin, soft metals don't spring back much at all (think of tinfoil here), whereas thick, tough metals spring back a huge amount.
This video shows many examples:
ruclips.net/video/nQFz6GOnQ_I/видео.html
Thank you very much!
@@RonCovell
Not related but there is more misinformation than information on DIY spring making, and there's not much misinformation. So I've seen two videos by people that generally know far more about machining than I ever wiil just wrap wire around a tube form which work hardens the wire slightly and then state with complete certainty they have made a spring and that's how springs are made, totally absolutely and obviously false. They have bent a piece of wire that is just as easily unbent. The only information I have found that makes a spring is ...
new mainspring for a Ballard rifle by Midway. Springs are made from a particular kind of steel, After shaping and smoothing the steel is heated and quenched which makes it hard and brittle, then re-heated to a high but much lower temperature that tempers it, making a strong spring.
Thanks for chiming in on this. I have seen This Old Tony's, and Blondihacks' videos on shop-made springs, and I consider each of their videos well done. They use a very strong material, commonly called 'music wire', and when wrapped around a mandrel, it does make a very serviceable spring.
When you say a spring can be 'unbent' as easily as it it 'bent, I think you may be confusing the forces used in MAKING a coil spring, which IS bending, with the forces used in stretching or compressing a coil spring, which translates to TORSION in the spring wire. Certainly you can destroy any coil spring by over-stretching it, but within the limits they are designed for, the simple techniques shown in these videos works quite well.
Here's a link for a video on a machine designed for making springs in a mass-production setting, and you will note that no mandrel is required:
ruclips.net/user/shortsMGp7DIr55mI
While some springs may require heat treatment after forming, I believe the vast majority of SMALL coil springs are made without this step.
@@RonCovell
Music Wire is widely available in hobby shops, used for control linkage in RC aircraft. K&S is common brand. The only use I anticipate for small coil spring would be in outboard motor where stretching of spring would occur at worst possible time.
Awesome. Will you make the claw hooks?
My customer hasn't asked me to make them yet, but that could be a fun project, too!
@@RonCovellI would love to see that!
Whats the diameter of that round bending wheel?
The wooden disc I bent the brass bar around was about 7 1/2-inches in diameter.
If I sent you measurements are you open to making some of these to frame some stone engravings I make?
I would be glad to take a look at what you need. My email address is covell@cruzio.com
Your sander is very hungry.
The sharper the sandpaper, the more hungry it is! I have bumped my knuckles more than once, and it can do some mischief!
@@RonCovell With great power comes great responsibility!
Banjo. - just sayin...
Have you seen my video on making a banjo rim?
ruclips.net/video/uEo8JxMG8bg/видео.html