+kNIGHTWING01 Good video , but you missed out certain parts , due to not being a fan of Azbats. I feel petty for doing this but i need to point them out. 1 At the start Jean Pauls skills aren't quite on par with Batman , but as the mind control by the order of St Dumas kicks in Valley becomes a much more physical combatant being able to go toe to to with Bane and later Batman , though Bruce Waynes experience and knowedge allows him to beat Valley. 2 While there is a girl in the story arc where Jean Paul confronts the Joker and Jean Paul does actually fall for her she is not killed. This was a story arc where Joker makes a live film (whilst still commiting murder in between time ) called The Death of Batman . The woman in the story was an actress hired by the Joker to play the damsell in distress that Jean Paul would save (unbewknowst to Jean Paul -Valley). While the Joker did try to kill her Jean Paul saved her , only to find out she'd been working for Joker. 3 There are four acts , before Jean Paul-Valleys encounter with Abbatoir which foreshadow Valley's unstable .The first sees him nearly allow a hostage of Scarecrows die in order to stop the villian , this was also before he beat Bane. In one story arc Valley nearly chokes Robin to death for breaking into the Batcave , with Robin only narrowly managing to escape. Another story arc sees Valley sadisticly beat up the hitman Tally Man which ends with Valley viciously carving a bat symbol into Tally Mans chest, despite having already beaten the villain . In his battle with the Joker Valley breaks both of Jokers arms and almost kills him before being talked out of it by the GCPD. This also highlights the difference between Bruce Wayne and Valley. As Bruce Wayne as Batman was able to combine intellect, skill and psychology to use the force needed to defeat criminals , where as Paul normally relied on brute strength, excessive force and his armour. Though Valley does use psychology to defeat the villian Mekros. 4 Valley is show to be nowhere near the detective that Bruce Wayne is as he mistakes Catwoman as stealing a nuke to detonate on Gotham, and spends more time going after criminals before doing any detective work or research in the Batcave to anticipate there next move. 5 Abbatior was a serial killer who mudered members of his family. He tried to kill his nephew Graham Etchinson (who was an adult working at Leslie Thompkins orphange) when he was on a trip with orphaned childeren , Valley defeated Abbatoir but failed to apprehend him when he was forced to save Etchinson and the childeren when there bus nearly toppled over the edge of a cliff, causing Valley to become obsessed with capturing the villian. Ultimately Abbatoir managed to later capture Etchinson and straps him into a torture device in an unknown location . Valley caught up with Abbatoir in a Steel Mill ( unaware where Etchinson was held) . He almost knocks Abbatoir into a vat of molten metal, with Abbatoir clinging on to a chain directly over the vat. During this time Valley is haunted by a Vison of St Dumas telling him to save Abbatoir , and a vison of his father telling him to kill Abattoir. Unable to make a decision Valley has a breakdown and leaves to Abbatoir fall to his death , as Robin watches in horror. As Abbatoir died before he could reveal Etchinsons location Etchinson also dies from injuries sustained from the torture device. These two incidents cause Gordon to realise that Valley is not Batman (as Batman would have apprehended Abbatoir and saved Graham Etchinson) . It also prompts Bruce Wayne to reclaim the mantle of the bat. 6 The fight between Nightwing and Valley isn't as one sided as it seems. Nightwing actually manages to go back and forth with Valley, managing to floor him a few times , he's only narrowly defeated by Valley due to Valleys armour (which has been shown to take a sledgehammer without breaking a single bone in Valleys body or even slowing him down , not to mention it fired shruikens and had a flame thrower) and a distraction by a woman who refused to evacuate the cruiser he and Valley where fighting on.This must have fellt like a punch in the face for people who were fans of Nightwing , but ultimately the story arc had to finish with Bruce Wayne being the one to defeat Valley in order for Bruce Wayne to be Batman. I hope you don't feel like i've undermined as that was not my intention. On the whole this is a good video Keep up the good work, enjoying what you doing and have a wonderfull day .
The reason the writers created the character of Azbats was, that at the time, a lot of new superheroes from the independent comic book companies killed their enemies (example: Spawn). Batman was being criticized for never killing. Azbats wasn't a character meant to be liked, he was created to show fans what it would be like to have a Batman willing to kill. As per plan, fans hated Azbats and got Bruce Wayne back.
I was told that Azrael Batman was never meant to be a likable character, it was to show a different side to the Batman persona. Like if Batman were to actually kill people.
I always like hearing all of the backstory in these videos. It really makes me think about getting into the Batman comics, but with all of the intertwined plot lines, it's hard to tell where to start.
They restarted the DC Universe in a big re-boot called The New 52 to help people jump aboard and not need prior knowledge! There are a few different Batman comics still, but the best has been the main 'Batman' title. These first issues are collected in trade paperbacks called The City of Owls, The Court of Owls and Death of the Family and they were amazing AMAZING.
Jonathan Wright Ah, well that sounds interesting. Though... I've heard a lot of long time comic fans gripe and moan about the New 52, as if it keeps "messing up" certain things. Other people's opinions certainly aren't deal breakers for me, but it IS something that makes me a bit wary...
The first map in the campaign is an exact replica of the Mr. Freeze lab in Arkham City! Also the final predator map is a copy of Penguin's Museum in Arkham City.
I HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS IN THE GAME... I recently finished all the giant Knightfall omnibuses so thank you so much for showing me this was a part of the game!
Actually Bruce did gave him his blessing. Bruce was in a wheel chair and did not know when he was going to be able to become Batman again if ever. So he did give his blessing to Jean Paul to become Batman. Even left the city in his hands while he was going to look for Tim Drake's father and Shondra Kinsolving who had been kidnapped. When he returned Bruce almost let Paul stay as Batman, except that he let Abattoir die which made him change his mind. So yeah, he was a stand in, but as much as stand in as Dick Grayson has been when he has taken over the mantle.
Next LORE video is Noel tomorrow night. We have some side missions to post tomorrow. As the Skins release, we will do lore vids on those too. So rest assured, more History of Batman or should we say Batmen with this Arkham series. =)
I know this is entirely off topic but I believe I found a Man-Bat reference in Origins. In the Batcave, when talking to Alfred, one of the things he will say is that he's seen a "rather large bat" in the cave and tells Bruce to "take care not to anger it" Bruce says that he's sure it's harmless and Alfred says "You haven't seen the creature..." While I'm not entirely sure, this could be a reference
Combat Tips: Keep the fight going for as long as you can. The more enemies the merrier. Always go for counters, less punches. Always Redirect enemies (jump over them -X, X or A, A), gives you more time to think about your next move without breaking the combo. Bat Swarm + Disarm/Destroy are the best special moves you could possibly do. They rack up a lot of points and you can use them MANY times in one round. Diversify: Perform all Special moves, ALL normal moves, and especially do the Gadget moves as well...all of those add up along with a multiplier... Mix those up and you can get all 3 trophies in one map without even needing Perfect Freeflow bonuses.
You guys have really half truths and negative views on Azrael. Azrael is NOT as weak as you make him seem. Even without his Az-Bat suit Azrael defeated Bane. Bruce Wayne couldn't even defeat Azrael in the KnightsEnd storyline, instead he outsmarted him and got him to snap out of the system. Before that Az-Bat defeated Nightwing. But Azrael is actually almost on Bruce's level, even above it in some ways but Azrael just doesn't have Bruce's experience and disciple. Azrael's mind is unstable due to the system which makes him a strong and aggressive fighter but not as smooth and calculating a fighter as Bruce. Az-Bat actually beat the hell out of Bane in their 2nd fight to the point where Bane ran away from him. And Azrael did admit that he wasn't Bruce to Bane. Bane said "Your not Batman, I broke the Batman" and Az-Bat said "Not this Batman". Azrael is one of my top 5 comic book characters ever. When I first read my 1st Batman comic in the 7th grade it was a Knightquest comic and it was really intriguing to see a Batman who doesn't play with criminals and who's worse enemy is himself due to his own psychosis. I personally like Azrael better then Bruce because he has such an interesting dynamic to his personality and he's such a brutal fighter
That's what the campaigns are. In the Batman games the Campaigns are a set of 3 or more challenge maps that you have to play one after the other, something like the Initiation DLC does have small cutscenes inbetween but they are basically a series of challenge maps.
The horrooooor I would feel if there was a DLC for *Batman : Arkham Origins* that would switch the voice of Bane to make it sound like the voice of the one from the Nolan movie. ^^ "When you have a X200 combo, you have my permission to die."
I haven't read the "Azrael" series in years, thanks for giving the 411 on all the gaps I didn't know about Jean Paul. It was a VERY entertaining series & really cool of BAO to make character skins & game levels dedicated to the different Batmen. Great work. I also liked your voice imitations, f'n hilarious...
I don't think we are doing NG+ actually. We will be doing the side missions, the challenge map campaigns instead of separate maps. Also covering the LORE of all the Skins. Tomorrow night is Noel Batman and full look at the Graphic Novel by Lee Bermejo
I love azrael, hes ones of my favorite DC characters, the stuff he did isn't really his fault though, after all the suit makes him crazy and all so you cant blame him that much, but I honestly don't see how he was much worse than batman is sometimes, batman has also come close to killing people and he breaks peoples legs and arms and bones all the time just for information, so batman doesn't really differ much from azrael when it comes to brutality.
What I could gather from reading knightfall is it wasn't the suit instead "the system" was slowly coming back into his mind from when he was being brainwashed
That's because it is, Warner Brothers aren't lazy at all like some are saying. Origins is a prequel and this is the GCPD before it was moved in Arkham City.
am i the only one who couldn't possibly keep up with the commentary? i have a huge desire to know more about the Batman lore, but this entire thing was WAY over my head.
I quite liked Knightfall. The Knightfall saga was rather interesting for its time. I don't exactly recall any other story arc where Bruce was tested this severely outside of Grant Morrison's line with Batman R.I.P. or, arguably, Night of Owls from the New 52. It was nice to see this walk down memory lane, KWing! Can't wait for the next one!
Maybe I think he and amber are shapshifters or something close I Swear I saw them at Walmart and I live in florida along way from them :P any way Kwing is Joker AHHHHH
Good video and I enjoyed hearing you talk about Batman while I watch the game - I get to learn more about my favorite hero while watching him in action. Keep making vids! By the way, which comic is that with Bane being destroyed by Batman before Ra's? Subscribed, by the way!
These DLC campaigns are not spectacular to say the least. From what I notice, it looks like Predator and survival mode maps only. Definitely a let down, especially the Deathstroke DLC. I honestly thought they would do something like Catwoman DLC, integrate a side story to the main campaign.
i am sure rocksteady will keep that tradition going on their sequel to city. i agree that was what made having other characters so cool is actually playing as them in the story. even robin had his own short story to bad nightwing did not though.
Bruce had been training Valley to suppress his urge to be a Ruthless murderer Valley had superior skills through the Programming of Saint Dumas he was picked to wear the cowl because he felt if he gave Tim or Dick the Mantle they would Die at the hands of Bane that's why he didn't want them to be Batman so they wouldn't die he cared for them, Jean Paul was an absolute beast he busted Banes ass (a feat Bruce wouldn't do for years), Batman could not face him head on had to trick him, and in a cross over he was such a scary motherfucker he made the Punisher go into a tactical retreat, To say the other members of the bat-family can take him down is a miscalculation, He is more trained then even Bruce through subliminal programming implanted by the Order, plus he is genetically modified to be stronger and faster physically, I believe Valley is Dead now.
He IS a good guy. Every adaptation of him in the past 15 years has been WRONG. Bane is a GOOD guy. In the comics, he only broke the Bat so the criminals of Gotham could fear him like he feared the prisoners where he grew up. He saw the Bat as a symbol, a symbol all the criminals were afraid of, and he realized that if they saw that one man could take him down single handedly they would become afraid of that man. That's why he tossed his body into the street for hundreds to see. He wanted the notoriety. After that happened he made a plan to take control of all of Gotham's biggest gangs (and was successful) and was able to destroy them from the inside. After Jean Paul Valley defeated him he was in prison until Ra'as Al Ghul forced him to fight Batman once again to become his heir. He lost, because this time Batman was not sick and beaten down and tired like last time, so he got his revenge. After that happened they became good friends...they even traveled to Santa Prisca together to destroy the last of the venom shipments. So, just like Spider-Man's Venom, Bane is NOT a villain. He was tormented as a child and rose to become a warrior. He just got very confused for a little bit.
Knightfall happened before Arkham Asylum. Though Azrael didn't play a role in it, nor did Saint Duma's. Dini laid the ground work for it and before Batman hit Bane with the Batmobile, both Bane & Bruce were talking about Knightfall.
Great video, when are you going to do the side missions, before or after NG+? When you're in challenge maps you have lore, but sometimes you really have to focus, but when you're strolling in the city, there's a lot more lore.
Better question is "Is it just me or does the outfit look friggin sweet??" I loove this! Also, great video. You guys are doing a kickass job as always! Very informative and enjoyable
Wow guys - this has really been one of your more illuminating background outlines - I really appreciate it. Arkham fan here, couple of videos up illustrating glitches and how-to's but nothing as comprehensive as this, at least storyline-wise, because guess what - I never read the comics. BTW, excellent joker impersonation (I'm not sure if that's you or somebody else, sounds like the genuine article) and you aren't bad at Bane either. Keep it up.
Dick did assume the mantel after Knightfall in the Prodigal arc. Because didn't remain Batman long after defeating Jean Paul. During Dick's stint as the Caped Crusader he and Tim became closer Brothers & Bruce set up multiple bases around Gotham and the world, so that he would never be caught by surprise again.
Knightfall Skin and Adam West is only on PS3 atm. I think the GOTY or Complete Edition will have the PS3 exclusives. Then again, 360 never got Joker as playable. So idk
Alejandro333777 Yea I believe so also by the time he was having the nightmares I think he was close to being "king of the prison" so he thought he was immortal
A bat like creature haunted him in his dreams and it didn't really considering he lived in a prison pretty much all of his childhood. He then found out about batman and broke him so he could be at peace.
cool video never knew anything about knightfall batman now i know like everything love when you make arkham origins one of my favorite games love your videos deep doing them.
The background info you provide is inaccurate in several places. Batman didn't spent three months defeating the rogues, it was under two weeks in the story. Tim Drake could not defeat Jean-Paul in combat, he tried once and was beaten, only barely able to escape. Bruce DID give Jean-Paul (pronounced as the French, not "Jean" as in Jean Grey) his blessing, he specifically chose Jean-Paul himself and told Alfred and Robin that Jean-Paul was Batman now. He didn't want him to go after Bane until he was ready, but he didn't say "you're only a stand-in." Even after Bruce's back was healed, Bruce said he intended to stay retired since Jean-Paul was now Batman and it was only after he learned that his successor had allowed a criminal and a hostage to die that he decided he would return to the role. Jean-Paul killed no one, he only allowed Abattoir to die, which is why after Knight's End Bruce allowed him to be a vigilante in Gotham (and he had his own series for 100 issues). There is a lot of background info on Jean-Paul. He was born in a test-tube, with simian DNA mixed into his own so he could have greater strength and vitality. His family line all served as Azrael, inspired by the mythical angel of death. His father wore bullet resistant armor but armor-piercing bullets were used and that's why he died, he didn't just hope his sword would stop the bullets. After defeating the people who killed his father, Jean-Paul wasn't on a quest for vengeance, he just wanted to use his talents and hypnotic training for good which is why he remained with Bruce. He later became about vengeance again because he learned that his father's murderer was still alive (and years later they died killing each other). Dick Grayson wasn't chosen because the point of the story was that readers complained Batman needed to be more violent and Denny O'Neil wanted to show that such a character wouldn't be right for Batman, hence Jean-Paul was created as such a character, whereas Dick would have been a decent Batman (and he did become a stand-in Batman for two weeks after Jean-Paul was defeated and Zero Hour ended). Dick Grayson did NOT retire from the Titans when Jason died, he was still a member when Tim Drake started training as Robin and he maintained his residence in New York for some time. And Drake Mansion is not connected to the Batcave, Tim had to leave his family grounds and go to an old barn that stood between his property and Wayne Manor. A well inside the barn was a disguised entrance to the cave.
I like watching your vids to hear what you know of the Batman lore. Anyways wanted to add a little info about the Sacred Order of Saint Dumas. They aren't just associated to Azrael. They are also connected to Mark Shaw aka The Manhunter who fought and killed their first assassin named Dumas. The order splintered and one faction created Azrael while the main branch requested that Shaw become Dumas.
I have bullet points for a script, it's just getting the time to do it. The low views I get on reviews isn't really worth throwing together a Review project anymore. I'm more considering doing a Top 10 or My thoughts video instead. Just to save on time, instead of being locked away in my office for 72 hrs working on a Review that few will see.
I thought that actually was Joker until he said "like and subscribe". That was a really impressive impression.
+Mike Frying Your just jealous
No it doesn't, you just can't appreciate someone's effort.
Sam S I was just about to say that
You play this game like a younger man, with nothing held back. Admirable but mistaken.
Bane would be pleased with the wording of your comment.
+kNIGHTWING01 yes
+kNIGHTWING01 Good video , but you missed out certain parts , due to not being a fan of Azbats. I feel petty for doing this but i need to point them out. 1 At the start Jean Pauls skills aren't quite on par with Batman , but as the mind control by the order of St Dumas kicks in Valley becomes a much more physical combatant being able to go toe to to with Bane and later Batman , though Bruce Waynes experience and knowedge allows him to beat Valley. 2 While there is a girl in the story arc where Jean Paul confronts the Joker and Jean Paul does actually fall for her she is not killed. This was a story arc where Joker makes a live film (whilst still commiting murder in between time ) called The Death of Batman . The woman in the story was an actress hired by the Joker to play the damsell in distress that Jean Paul would save (unbewknowst to Jean Paul -Valley). While the Joker did try to kill her Jean Paul saved her , only to find out she'd been working for Joker. 3 There are four acts , before Jean Paul-Valleys encounter with Abbatoir which foreshadow Valley's unstable .The first sees him nearly allow a hostage of Scarecrows die in order to stop the villian , this was also before he beat Bane. In one story arc Valley nearly chokes Robin to death for breaking into the Batcave , with Robin only narrowly managing to escape. Another story arc sees Valley sadisticly beat up the hitman Tally Man which ends with Valley viciously carving a bat symbol into Tally Mans chest, despite having already beaten the villain . In his battle with the Joker Valley breaks both of Jokers arms and almost kills him before being talked out of it by the GCPD. This also highlights the difference between Bruce Wayne and Valley. As Bruce Wayne as Batman was able to combine intellect, skill and psychology to use the force needed to defeat criminals , where as Paul normally relied on brute strength, excessive force and his armour. Though Valley does use psychology to defeat the villian Mekros. 4 Valley is show to be nowhere near the detective that Bruce Wayne is as he mistakes Catwoman as stealing a nuke to detonate on Gotham, and spends more time going after criminals before doing any detective work or research in the Batcave to anticipate there next move. 5 Abbatior was a serial killer who mudered members of his family. He tried to kill his nephew Graham Etchinson (who was an adult working at Leslie Thompkins orphange) when he was on a trip with orphaned childeren , Valley defeated Abbatoir but failed to apprehend him when he was forced to save Etchinson and the childeren when there bus nearly toppled over the edge of a cliff, causing Valley to become obsessed with capturing the villian. Ultimately Abbatoir managed to later capture Etchinson and straps him into a torture device in an unknown location . Valley caught up with Abbatoir in a Steel Mill ( unaware where Etchinson was held) . He almost knocks Abbatoir into a vat of molten metal, with Abbatoir clinging on to a chain directly over the vat. During this time Valley is haunted by a Vison of St Dumas telling him to save Abbatoir , and a vison of his father telling him to kill Abattoir. Unable to make a decision Valley has a breakdown and leaves to Abbatoir fall to his death , as Robin watches in horror. As Abbatoir died before he could reveal Etchinsons location Etchinson also dies from injuries sustained from the torture device. These two incidents cause Gordon to realise that Valley is not Batman (as Batman would have apprehended Abbatoir and saved Graham Etchinson) . It also prompts Bruce Wayne to reclaim the mantle of the bat. 6 The fight between Nightwing and Valley isn't as one sided as it seems. Nightwing actually manages to go back and forth with Valley, managing to floor him a few times , he's only narrowly defeated by Valley due to Valleys armour (which has been shown to take a sledgehammer without breaking a single bone in Valleys body or even slowing him down , not to mention it fired shruikens and had a flame thrower) and a distraction by a woman who refused to evacuate the cruiser he and Valley where fighting on.This must have fellt like a punch in the face for people who were fans of Nightwing , but ultimately the story arc had to finish with Bruce Wayne being the one to defeat Valley in order for Bruce Wayne to be Batman. I hope you don't feel like i've undermined as that was not my intention. On the whole this is a good video Keep up the good work, enjoying what you doing and have a wonderfull day .
+kNIGHTWING01 hi
+wood hardy that is one freaking long coment
The reason the writers created the character of Azbats was, that at the time, a lot of new superheroes from the independent comic book companies killed their enemies (example: Spawn). Batman was being criticized for never killing. Azbats wasn't a character meant to be liked, he was created to show fans what it would be like to have a Batman willing to kill. As per plan, fans hated Azbats and got Bruce Wayne back.
So you don't think he deserves it movie solo?
I was told that Azrael Batman was never meant to be a likable character, it was to show a different side to the Batman persona. Like if Batman were to actually kill people.
That's when Knightfall took place in the comics.
The version I always thought did that concept justice was the Batman in Gods and Monsters
frank miller kind of did
I always like hearing all of the backstory in these videos. It really makes me think about getting into the Batman comics, but with all of the intertwined plot lines, it's hard to tell where to start.
They restarted the DC Universe in a big re-boot called The New 52 to help people jump aboard and not need prior knowledge! There are a few different Batman comics still, but the best has been the main 'Batman' title. These first issues are collected in trade paperbacks called The City of Owls, The Court of Owls and Death of the Family and they were amazing AMAZING.
Jonathan Wright
Ah, well that sounds interesting. Though... I've heard a lot of long time comic fans gripe and moan about the New 52, as if it keeps "messing up" certain things.
Other people's opinions certainly aren't deal breakers for me, but it IS something that makes me a bit wary...
I'd be very surprised if you didn't like the first few 'Batman' trades in the New 52, they're very good. Read the Amazon reviews. Have fun! 😊
Jonathan Wright
Thanks! I'm sure I will.
By the Way, sorry it took such a long time to get back to you.
start graphic novel the long halloween
Your Joker voice was pretty good. I'll check your other videos and see if you do voices often.
He doesn't voice the joker it's his friend
Thanks for the clarification!
PoisonedPancakez he's friends with mark hamill?
That was his friend, not mark hamill
I don't think you understand what a joke is
The first map in the campaign is an exact replica of the Mr. Freeze lab in Arkham City! Also the final predator map is a copy of Penguin's Museum in Arkham City.
Aleheez Valadiz Screw you, Batman Arkham Orgins is the best one in the series. Liek, it really offends me. I hope Bane breaks you.
Dashana Gurl Wow Diana, I never knew you were such a big fan of the Batman games. >:D
Anthony Torres OMG Anthony you stalker!!! HOW DID YOU FIND ME?!
shhh... don't ask :)
creepy O_O
I HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS IN THE GAME...
I recently finished all the giant Knightfall omnibuses so thank you so much for showing me this was a part of the game!
It's playstation exlusive.
Actually Bruce did gave him his blessing. Bruce was in a wheel chair and did not know when he was going to be able to become Batman again if ever. So he did give his blessing to Jean Paul to become Batman. Even left the city in his hands while he was going to look for Tim Drake's father and Shondra Kinsolving who had been kidnapped. When he returned Bruce almost let Paul stay as Batman, except that he let Abattoir die which made him change his mind. So yeah, he was a stand in, but as much as stand in as Dick Grayson has been when he has taken over the mantle.
Nevermind, you actually explained everything later on the video.
1:12
...um Bruce actually asked Jean Paul to be Batman. There was a whole conversation where Jean Asked him why he didn't ask Dick.
Next LORE video is Noel tomorrow night. We have some side missions to post tomorrow. As the Skins release, we will do lore vids on those too. So rest assured, more History of Batman or should we say Batmen with this Arkham series. =)
"Don't forget to like, comment and subscribe! Or else..." I might subscribe just for that, that was fucking brilliant and a perfect Joker voice.
Thanks for the background knowledge during the video! Really helped me figure out what the hell was going on :p
what an awesome and detailed info about azrael. find him a very interesting and awesome character. love the knightfall costume!
I know this is entirely off topic but I believe I found a Man-Bat reference in Origins. In the Batcave, when talking to Alfred, one of the things he will say is that he's seen a "rather large bat" in the cave and tells Bruce to "take care not to anger it" Bruce says that he's sure it's harmless and Alfred says "You haven't seen the creature..." While I'm not entirely sure, this could be a reference
No, I don't think this is a reference. Also, how could Man-bat be in the batcave?
No idea, but he continues to talk about this gigantic bat multiple times. I'm pretty sure it's a reference
I was skeptical at first but now I think it is possible.
Combat Tips:
Keep the fight going for as long as you can. The more enemies the merrier.
Always go for counters, less punches.
Always Redirect enemies (jump over them -X, X or A, A), gives you more time to think about your next move without breaking the combo.
Bat Swarm + Disarm/Destroy are the best special moves you could possibly do. They rack up a lot of points and you can use them MANY times in one round.
Diversify: Perform all Special moves, ALL normal moves, and especially do the Gadget moves as well...all of those add up along with a multiplier...
Mix those up and you can get all 3 trophies in one map without even needing Perfect Freeflow bonuses.
Caped Crusader so early 90's Dark Blue, Yellow Emblem and Blue-ish Black cape. Similar to how he looked in BTAS
7 years ago wow I remember getting this game for Christmas that year
You guys have really half truths and negative views on Azrael. Azrael is NOT as weak as you make him seem. Even without his Az-Bat suit Azrael defeated Bane. Bruce Wayne couldn't even defeat Azrael in the KnightsEnd storyline, instead he outsmarted him and got him to snap out of the system. Before that Az-Bat defeated Nightwing. But Azrael is actually almost on Bruce's level, even above it in some ways but Azrael just doesn't have Bruce's experience and disciple. Azrael's mind is unstable due to the system which makes him a strong and aggressive fighter but not as smooth and calculating a fighter as Bruce. Az-Bat actually beat the hell out of Bane in their 2nd fight to the point where Bane ran away from him. And Azrael did admit that he wasn't Bruce to Bane. Bane said "Your not Batman, I broke the Batman" and Az-Bat said "Not this Batman". Azrael is one of my top 5 comic book characters ever. When I first read my 1st Batman comic in the 7th grade it was a Knightquest comic and it was really intriguing to see a Batman who doesn't play with criminals and who's worse enemy is himself due to his own psychosis. I personally like Azrael better then Bruce because he has such an interesting dynamic to his personality and he's such a brutal fighter
wait the first map, is that freezes layer from arkham city?
Yes, but without the ice.
That's because arkham origins is set in arkham city when it was part of gotham.
My favorite moment in knightfall is when azrael and bane are about to start fighting in the streets while it's raining.
this doesn't really look like a campaign more like a bunch of bonus challenge maps
That's what the campaigns are. In the Batman games the Campaigns are a set of 3 or more challenge maps that you have to play one after the other, something like the Initiation DLC does have small cutscenes inbetween but they are basically a series of challenge maps.
That's what all the campaigns have been, in the entire series...
Alex Crick Not the Harley Quinn's Revenge one. (If that counts)
That's literally the definition of a campaign
All these years and I still know the joker intro off by heart and say it with him
Cool, I wrote that script. The actor I found was top notch. He vanished several years ago.
kNIGHTWING01 Damn what a shame.
If Rocksteady do announce a new DC game as the rumours say will it be played on this channel?
worried about pronouncing "Dumas" wrong and you pronounce "Jean" wrong
/dyumah/
"I already won! I already broke the Batman!"
"Not THIS Batman."
The horrooooor I would feel if there was a DLC for *Batman : Arkham Origins* that would switch the voice of Bane to make it sound like the voice of the one from the Nolan movie. ^^
"When you have a X200 combo, you have my permission to die."
in predator maps: you think darkness is your ally?
. . . I can't think of a good Bane joke in relation to the Arkham games. I feel left out. :/
"When I become fat, you can let me eat Alfred. Sound good? Too bad."
Karsten Aalto . . . Nope. Still nothing.
No one knew that I could reach 35x points in a combat map until I put on the mask.
I am so impressed by your knowledge of batman and the banter you had during the game play that you have won my follow. Keep doing these I enjoyed it
Thanks Victor =D
the most happening and bold game of this era. love it.
I haven't read the "Azrael" series in years, thanks for giving the 411 on all the gaps I didn't know about Jean Paul. It was a VERY entertaining series & really cool of BAO to make character skins & game levels dedicated to the different Batmen. Great work.
I also liked your voice imitations, f'n hilarious...
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You guys are the best RUclipsrs out there
Nice Joker voice man, that was really close.
Hitlers Cousin Jimmy doesn't make a joke about knightfall being dr mangela since he calls him the angel of death
Thanks for the backround on the Knightfall suit and Jean Paul Valley. It make makes wonder why they haven't done a movie on this yet.
Awesome intro!
This was awesome really interesting stuff, nice to see some gameplay while being educated on the lore great stuff!
Thanks so much for all the Azreal info, I didnt get many comics that had him in it. I Actually liked Azreal, but had no idea everthing that he did.
I don't think we are doing NG+ actually. We will be doing the side missions, the challenge map campaigns instead of separate maps. Also covering the LORE of all the Skins. Tomorrow night is Noel Batman and full look at the Graphic Novel by Lee Bermejo
And the last map looks like Natural Selection. Really WB, you can't come up with more original predator maps?...Jeez.
great vid guys. thank you. both of you.
I love azrael, hes ones of my favorite DC characters, the stuff he did isn't really his fault though, after all the suit makes him crazy and all so you cant blame him that much, but I honestly don't see how he was much worse than batman is sometimes, batman has also come close to killing people and he breaks peoples legs and arms and bones all the time just for information, so batman doesn't really differ much from azrael when it comes to brutality.
What I could gather from reading knightfall is it wasn't the suit instead "the system" was slowly coming back into his mind from when he was being brainwashed
yeah
Nice Joker narratives, and very informative talk about Bane!
Has anyone else noticed the similarity between the first predator map in this and the GCPD predator map in Arkham City?
theyre exactly alike.. good eye
if you play this game, u will noticed that is basically arkham city rip-off (same maps and all)
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Yes i noticed that while playing it, they are all very similar to Arkham City maps
That's because it is, Warner Brothers aren't lazy at all like some are saying. Origins is a prequel and this is the GCPD before it was moved in Arkham City.
am i the only one who couldn't possibly keep up with the commentary? i have a huge desire to know more about the Batman lore, but this entire thing was WAY over my head.
This is my favourite skin of all time, I really wish it was for xbox as well
mine too
I quite liked Knightfall. The Knightfall saga was rather interesting for its time. I don't exactly recall any other story arc where Bruce was tested this severely outside of Grant Morrison's line with Batman R.I.P. or, arguably, Night of Owls from the New 52. It was nice to see this walk down memory lane, KWing! Can't wait for the next one!
How did you do the Joker voice for the intro?
i think it is a sound bord or he is talented
Maybe I think he and amber are shapshifters or something close I Swear I saw them at Walmart and I live in florida along way from them :P any way Kwing is Joker AHHHHH
Shadocron florida?
Florida as in a state in the US
nah, i stay in Florida as well.. had no idea thats where he was from/stays/lives.
15:33 OMG SUCH A GREAT BANE VOICE!!!
i love the knight fall story
Bane is really good in Arkham Origins. He was much smarter and really cool. Nice video.
Good video and I enjoyed hearing you talk about Batman while I watch the game - I get to learn more about my favorite hero while watching him in action. Keep making vids!
By the way, which comic is that with Bane being destroyed by Batman before Ra's?
Subscribed, by the way!
For Europe only though, they did a few books like the Sword of Azrael and No Mans land. It was a cool idea actually to do an audio drama
These DLC campaigns are not spectacular to say the least. From what I notice, it looks like Predator and survival mode maps only. Definitely a let down, especially the Deathstroke DLC. I honestly thought they would do something like Catwoman DLC, integrate a side story to the main campaign.
i am sure rocksteady will keep that tradition going on their sequel to city. i agree that was what made having other characters so cool is actually playing as them in the story. even robin had his own short story to bad nightwing did not though.
You can cheese martial artist counter chains by mashing through until they stop attacking
Bruce had been training Valley to suppress his urge to be a Ruthless murderer Valley had superior skills through the Programming of Saint Dumas he was picked to wear the cowl because he felt if he gave Tim or Dick the Mantle they would Die at the hands of Bane that's why he didn't want them to be Batman so they wouldn't die he cared for them, Jean Paul was an absolute beast he busted Banes ass (a feat Bruce wouldn't do for years), Batman could not face him head on had to trick him, and in a cross over he was such a scary motherfucker he made the Punisher go into a tactical retreat, To say the other members of the bat-family can take him down is a miscalculation, He is more trained then even Bruce through subliminal programming implanted by the Order, plus he is genetically modified to be stronger and faster physically, I believe Valley is Dead now.
When I saw this in my subscription box I literally screamed "Yes!" I'd been waiting all day for another batman video.
I kinda always felt for Bane because of what happened in his past . I also always thought that deep down he might have been an good guy.
What happened
He was born in a hellish prison they tell you in this video.
yea i know right His Past Was His Father Was KingSnake Was A Bad Guy And bane Got To go To Jail To Do Sentence
He IS a good guy. Every adaptation of him in the past 15 years has been WRONG. Bane is a GOOD guy. In the comics, he only broke the Bat so the criminals of Gotham could fear him like he feared the prisoners where he grew up. He saw the Bat as a symbol, a symbol all the criminals were afraid of, and he realized that if they saw that one man could take him down single handedly they would become afraid of that man. That's why he tossed his body into the street for hundreds to see. He wanted the notoriety. After that happened he made a plan to take control of all of Gotham's biggest gangs (and was successful) and was able to destroy them from the inside. After Jean Paul Valley defeated him he was in prison until Ra'as Al Ghul forced him to fight Batman once again to become his heir. He lost, because this time Batman was not sick and beaten down and tired like last time, so he got his revenge.
After that happened they became good friends...they even traveled to Santa Prisca together to destroy the last of the venom shipments.
So, just like Spider-Man's Venom, Bane is NOT a villain. He was tormented as a child and rose to become a warrior. He just got very confused for a little bit.
Knightfall happened before Arkham Asylum. Though Azrael didn't play a role in it, nor did Saint Duma's. Dini laid the ground work for it and before Batman hit Bane with the Batmobile, both Bane & Bruce were talking about Knightfall.
Yayyyy Bane 21:50
I've been waiting for this video for a while. Knightfall is the thing I remember most of the Batman comics I had in the 90s.
batman arkham origins is so sexy
Great video, when are you going to do the side missions, before or after NG+? When you're in challenge maps you have lore, but sometimes you really have to focus, but when you're strolling in the city, there's a lot more lore.
Im going to try and make azrael batman suit in dcuo
Better question is "Is it just me or does the outfit look friggin sweet??" I loove this!
Also, great video. You guys are doing a kickass job as always! Very informative and enjoyable
anyone els think he looks like zurg from toy story
Batman, I your father
Wow guys - this has really been one of your more illuminating background outlines - I really appreciate it. Arkham fan here, couple of videos up illustrating glitches and how-to's but nothing as comprehensive as this, at least storyline-wise, because guess what - I never read the comics. BTW, excellent joker impersonation (I'm not sure if that's you or somebody else, sounds like the genuine article) and you aren't bad at Bane either. Keep it up.
and the second predator map is totally penguins museum room from arkham city man everything is reused
dylan grappler22 the first is the gcpd also, but I like the fact that it is a remake as we can play the awesome maps again
Dick did assume the mantel after Knightfall in the Prodigal arc. Because didn't remain Batman long after defeating Jean Paul. During Dick's stint as the Caped Crusader he and Tim became closer Brothers & Bruce set up multiple bases around Gotham and the world, so that he would never be caught by surprise again.
Latin isn't as hard as people make it out to be... it really isn't.. it's a lot like spanish, considering they're both romantic languages..
Latin is like every language in the world!
gokulauri the origins of most languages, my cousin learnt it
I agree with you 100% WB and DC should make an animated Knightfall movie!
How about some Batman 1mil lore?
I haven't read the new 66 comics. So it will be on the History of the Adam West show, how it started and the Impact it had on Batman overall.
I'd so hate to not have a PS3 right now
I know. I hope the DLC's come to Xbox 360 soon
***** why not :(
david kenny because it's a Playstation exclusive. Sony paid for it, so it's only available to them.
Mcseban Well that stinks. And I really don't feel like doing that start stopping TN-1 bane boss fight again, lol
david kenny that boss fight gave me a heart attack. So flippin scary :(
His run as the Bat starts in Batman Reborn.
Can you do free roam with the knightfall suit?
yes if you beat the game
Knightfall Skin and Adam West is only on PS3 atm. I think the GOTY or Complete Edition will have the PS3 exclusives. Then again, 360 never got Joker as playable. So idk
So bane hates batman alot because he had dreams about a bat? -.-
Kinda there's some more psychological meanings to it but sort of.
Oh ok lol he seemed to have alot of random hate for him in orgins like it was seemingly for no reason more than the money
Did the bat in his dreams like torment him in his dreams or something
Alejandro333777 Yea I believe so also by the time he was having the nightmares I think he was close to being "king of the prison" so he thought he was immortal
A bat like creature haunted him in his dreams and it didn't really considering he lived in a prison pretty much all of his childhood. He then found out about batman and broke him so he could be at peace.
jeez its been way to long since ive watched kwing, happy to be back
the girl sounded uninterested and bored. never use her again...
StarCrunch22 his wife you dummy.
mad happy that bats and bane end up being friends. also, "same bat-time, same bat-channel," is an awesome line :D
I love how your girlfriend is just there talking away makes video so much better
He is a Side Mission we filmed.
Watching this video inspired me to master the Knightfall campaign. It wasn't easy, but I managed to pull it off.
I didn't even notice that. You guys always make me ad to my Review notes. XD
Love the lore and videos! Keep up the great job!!
Very good and thorough commentary, I'm a supes fan, but even I can appreciate.
That Joker impression was spot on!! :D
cool video never knew anything about knightfall batman now i know like everything love when you make arkham origins one of my favorite games love your videos deep doing them.
You have to hit counter button twice to defend yourself against the martial artists
The background info you provide is inaccurate in several places. Batman didn't spent three months defeating the rogues, it was under two weeks in the story. Tim Drake could not defeat Jean-Paul in combat, he tried once and was beaten, only barely able to escape. Bruce DID give Jean-Paul (pronounced as the French, not "Jean" as in Jean Grey) his blessing, he specifically chose Jean-Paul himself and told Alfred and Robin that Jean-Paul was Batman now. He didn't want him to go after Bane until he was ready, but he didn't say "you're only a stand-in." Even after Bruce's back was healed, Bruce said he intended to stay retired since Jean-Paul was now Batman and it was only after he learned that his successor had allowed a criminal and a hostage to die that he decided he would return to the role. Jean-Paul killed no one, he only allowed Abattoir to die, which is why after Knight's End Bruce allowed him to be a vigilante in Gotham (and he had his own series for 100 issues). There is a lot of background info on Jean-Paul. He was born in a test-tube, with simian DNA mixed into his own so he could have greater strength and vitality. His family line all served as Azrael, inspired by the mythical angel of death. His father wore bullet resistant armor but armor-piercing bullets were used and that's why he died, he didn't just hope his sword would stop the bullets. After defeating the people who killed his father, Jean-Paul wasn't on a quest for vengeance, he just wanted to use his talents and hypnotic training for good which is why he remained with Bruce. He later became about vengeance again because he learned that his father's murderer was still alive (and years later they died killing each other). Dick Grayson wasn't chosen because the point of the story was that readers complained Batman needed to be more violent and Denny O'Neil wanted to show that such a character wouldn't be right for Batman, hence Jean-Paul was created as such a character, whereas Dick would have been a decent Batman (and he did become a stand-in Batman for two weeks after Jean-Paul was defeated and Zero Hour ended). Dick Grayson did NOT retire from the Titans when Jason died, he was still a member when Tim Drake started training as Robin and he maintained his residence in New York for some time. And Drake Mansion is not connected to the Batcave, Tim had to leave his family grounds and go to an old barn that stood between his property and Wayne Manor. A well inside the barn was a disguised entrance to the cave.
The Knightfall suit is underrated in my opinion.
Great joker voice! Furthermore EXELLENT video! Keep up the good work.
I like watching your vids to hear what you know of the Batman lore. Anyways wanted to add a little info about the Sacred Order of Saint Dumas. They aren't just associated to Azrael. They are also connected to Mark Shaw aka The Manhunter who fought and killed their first assassin named Dumas. The order splintered and one faction created Azrael while the main branch requested that Shaw become Dumas.
anyone else notice the first predator map in the campaign is an exact replica of the old gcpd predator map in arkham city
layout wise I mean
I love these comic book history lesson
I love your lore, Kwing! very educational and entertaining! I love all your videos. I liked and shared this video everywhere!
kwing i also want to say that u r 1 of my favurite youtubers of all time and i hope you do this for the rest of ur life
Batman likes giving people he forgives small fortunes, imagine if the joker somehow became sane, and Batman gives him a small fortune in return
Wow the joker voice in the beginning was amazing
Thanks, it's a big help to us.
A came to this video just to see some gameplay and but i ended up stayin to hear the amazing back story +1 subscriber
I have bullet points for a script, it's just getting the time to do it. The low views I get on reviews isn't really worth throwing together a Review project anymore. I'm more considering doing a Top 10 or My thoughts video instead. Just to save on time, instead of being locked away in my office for 72 hrs working on a Review that few will see.